Opening 2:05 ports 3:50 keyboard and screen 9:25 track pad 10:24 speaker test 12:32 camera test 13:19 specs 17:07 benchmark 21:06 gen 6 vs gen 7 28:22 final opinion
This device only has one memory module - this is the first laptop that uses the new LPCAMM2 memory format, the new design meant to replace SO-DIMM. Different from SO-DIMM, LPCAMM2 uses more efficient Low Power (LP) memory.
Nice review. Some stuff you prefer on P7 over P6, I might disagree, but I do not have the P7 (yet). But in general, Thinkpad/Lenovo are great laptops. Why companies buy HP, I still do not understand.
Lenovo LOQ 15IAX9I - 1000$ and Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen 7 - 3000$. Laptops almost same I think better to buy LOQ because it is x3 chipper and it has bigger keyboard :)
Apples to oranges. ThinkPad has much better build quality and keyboard and it's also thinner and lighter. One's a budget gaming laptop, the other's a mobile workstation built like a tank.
I have more Thinkpads/Lenovos (w520, to p1 gen 6). The keyboard in general beats HP, Dell, etc - and when you talk about travel - well, the w520 have a nice long travel!
Thanks so much for this video! I have a P7 headed my way here soon, and I'm excited to get it. Just curious, for gaming purposes, have you run any comparisons with the P1 G7 against the Legion product line? I wonder how this workstation would hold up. I'm assuming with the RTX 4060 or even 4070 (which mine will have) it should perform VERY well. Thanks again! Andy
Hey man, thank YOU for the kind words and congreats on purchasing the P1 Gen 7, wonderful device! Regarding gaming - it's supposed to be the same or I might be crazy and say a little bit less than the Legion line. The Legion line is gaming oriented, beefy fans, beefy device, looking different. I've felt like the P1G7 is doing great, I could do some gaming testings on it if you would like!
Its only 60W for the thinkpad. The legion lineup has an effective 100W tdp for gpus. It makes sense the thinkpad is weaker since it smaller compared to its gaming counterpart
I am glad that they changed the keyboard to longer key travel but hate the Ctrl & Fn. That's what I like about Thinkpad (Ctrl more reachable). I guess can swap them back in the setup.
i think 4k is not suitable for thin laptop. although it is impossible to compare other device and p1 gen, i have a terrible experience of 4k xps15... very ver hot (nearly burning) and continuous fan spinnin in the idle state. i will not get 4k thin laptop before intel or amd catch up macbook
@@ihk5812 thank you for the reply! I had a x1 carbon gen 9 with a 4k screen and it also runs incredibly hot. It also kills the battery (maybe I have 90 minutes battery now just typing notes in word). I may just get the 2560 x 1600. Cheers.
Thanks for the video! It would be great if you could also do some gaming tests. I really like the P1 Gen 7, but I'm a little worried due to the low TGP of 60W and the low Vulcan Score.
hey, do you recommend the p16 over the p1 a lot regarding fan noise? I just got my p1 and found the fans horrible & ~3-5x louder than the old X1E gen 2. I am thinking about buying the P16 instead, would you recommend it regarding fans? (I know you said so re the P1 gen 6 in another model).
Hey all!!! Sorry this is a bit of a selfish post, but maybe not if someone is in need. I have a comment up above, I did order the P7, and it’s a beast. However, and I know this is taboo, but I think I’m going to go the MacBook route. So, I have a $3,000 usd machine that I’m looking to now sell. I have about 12 hours logged on it. I’ll reset and wipe everything but the OS. I’m looking to get 2,300 for it. If anyone is interested or knows where I can potentially sell this at a fair price please let me know. The machine is flawless. Even the box and all the packing material is preserved. Thanks all!! Andy
Hey, no worries at all! Glad to hear you liked the P7 - it’s definitely a powerhouse. If you’re looking to sell it, you might also want to check out some PC or gaming forums, or even local second-hand electronics marketplaces. Places like eBay, Reddit’s hardware swap communities, or dedicated Facebook groups could help you find a buyer more quickly. Good luck, and thanks for sharing here!
Doesn't the camera get dirty and scratched when it goes outside the computer on the new model? Also, the back of the computer shows a lot of fingerprints in the video.
Hey, did you see if the gpu really runs at 60W or a bit higher? What is the performance like vs the p1gen6? And can you do a vulkan benchmark with the 4060? I think during the tests it used the intel arc
This model is for business, so stability is much more important than cutting edge functions. I hope lenovo stop chinamizing P1 series. They can play with consumer models instead.
Hello super review ! Would be possible to do a review of the p14s intel ? There is whole new chassis and bigger screen. Seem to be the real descendant of the t14 and legit comparaison with the P1
Hello there! I've actually tested it - and it's possible to charge using type c (65w) - but it's says that it's giving low voltage, which means less performance.
Neither, I'd search for a P1 gen6 with an RTX 4090 GPU. I have one and it's the closest any Windows laptop can get to flawless. Gen 7 has eliminated physical mouse buttons, which is a step backwards. Also, gen6 doesn't have the dumb co-pilot key, which is a bonus.
@@asterx_obelix653 That device is REALLY new to the market and it's not fully "updated" with the best drivers. Usually it takes up to 3 months for a new device to be fully stable
You might be right, but the router was literally 1 meter a way from me, and seeing better performance on older types of wifi adapters just makes me feel like it's wrong. Driver updates surely are going to fix it - and if not, that's very sad.
@@longrhino תודה אחי ! האמת עדיין לא הזמנתי אותו אני מחפש מחשב 16 אכותי ולא מצאתי אלא המחשב הזה וASUS G16 AMD יש לי חבר שחוזר מחו''ל אז זה אותו מחיר אני עדיין מטבלת אפילו שאני לא משחק בגלל המסך OLED והחומר של השילדה שהוא מתלכלך מה הייתה עושה עם ישראל חי
@@eiceys4612 בשניהם מתלכלך... האמת שזה ממש תלוי במה אתה עושה בחיים, הלפטופ הזה הוא בעיקר איכות חומרים ושירות יותר מאשר תמורה למחיר... אם אתה שואל אותי - אם אתה לא מכניס מהלפטופ כסף, אין לך מה ללכת על הטינקפד, אלא על האסוס.
This one isn't with an oled. But there's a version with it: 16" WQUXGA (3840 x 2400), OLED, Anti-Reflection/Anti-Smudge, Dolby Vision™, Touch, 100%DCI-P3, 400 nits, 60Hz, Low Blue Light
By touch you mean the touchpad? never happened to me on the P1 Gen 6, sometimes the keyboard but not the trackpad. Anyways, it does not seem like it's going to have that kind of an issue, but only time will tell
I ordered mine with the RTX2k GPU for battery reasons though I would've preferred to pay more to get the addtional cooling. I hope it's the right choice. Therefor I hope his battery life is not as good, comparatively :D
Nice video and congrats for being the first to upload a review of the new P1 G7. Btw, the RAM looks smaller because its a new type of RAM called "LPCAMM2", its like 50% smaller than DDR5 SODIMM. Sadly that its soldered.
No, it‘s not soldered. The P1 Gen 7 is the first laptop with the non-soldered LPCAMM2 (developed by Micron). So you now can replace/upgrade it like the good old SO-DIMMs.
@@octanevz Ohhh I thought they were soldered :O +1 for Lenovo for including this type of memory, hopefully they become a standard for the next generation of laptops, especially in the T, T/s and P/s series
Usually I'm not talking about battery life because these is a workstation - which means it has high power usage. I would suggest about 3 - 5 hours, depends on your workload
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Opening
2:05 ports
3:50 keyboard and screen
9:25 track pad
10:24 speaker test
12:32 camera test
13:19 specs
17:07 benchmark
21:06 gen 6 vs gen 7
28:22 final opinion
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Love P1 Gen6.. Have use it for a year
thanks a ton for your great review; you answered most of my questions. Thank you again!
Your video is the only video I could find about this laptop.
This device only has one memory module - this is the first laptop that uses the new LPCAMM2 memory format, the new design meant to replace SO-DIMM. Different from SO-DIMM, LPCAMM2 uses more efficient Low Power (LP) memory.
I love mine, it’s not the fastest, best battery life, etc but it’s well balanced.
Noise is good ?
@@Rednunziomostly silent, but under load you can hear the fans but nothing too annoying….about what you hear in the video.
I love this Machine, So clean Classic.
Nice review. Some stuff you prefer on P7 over P6, I might disagree, but I do not have the P7 (yet). But in general, Thinkpad/Lenovo are great laptops. Why companies buy HP, I still do not understand.
Lenovo LOQ 15IAX9I - 1000$ and Lenovo ThinkPad P1 Gen 7 - 3000$. Laptops almost same I think better to buy LOQ because it is x3 chipper and it has bigger keyboard :)
It really depends what your usage out of the device is. LOQ isn't meant for businesses 😉
Apples to oranges. ThinkPad has much better build quality and keyboard and it's also thinner and lighter. One's a budget gaming laptop, the other's a mobile workstation built like a tank.
I custom ordered one today and I maxed out every single option available. I wonder how it will perform.
Would appreciate update!
Update please. Also, how comfortable is the OLED screen?
I have more Thinkpads/Lenovos (w520, to p1 gen 6). The keyboard in general beats HP, Dell, etc - and when you talk about travel - well, the w520 have a nice long travel!
Thanks! Great review, could you please review ThinkPad E16 Gen 3?
Finally ive been looking for a review on this laptop
Thanks so much for this video! I have a P7 headed my way here soon, and I'm excited to get it. Just curious, for gaming purposes, have you run any comparisons with the P1 G7 against the Legion product line? I wonder how this workstation would hold up. I'm assuming with the RTX 4060 or even 4070 (which mine will have) it should perform VERY well.
Thanks again!
Andy
Hey man, thank YOU for the kind words and congreats on purchasing the P1 Gen 7, wonderful device!
Regarding gaming - it's supposed to be the same or I might be crazy and say a little bit less than the Legion line. The Legion line is gaming oriented, beefy fans, beefy device, looking different.
I've felt like the P1G7 is doing great, I could do some gaming testings on it if you would like!
Its only 60W for the thinkpad. The legion lineup has an effective 100W tdp for gpus. It makes sense the thinkpad is weaker since it smaller compared to its gaming counterpart
Thanks for the review. Do you think this is the best workstation available today?
I am glad that they changed the keyboard to longer key travel but hate the Ctrl & Fn.
That's what I like about Thinkpad (Ctrl more reachable).
I guess can swap them back in the setup.
Thanks for the review! This is super helpful. How do you think about choosing between 2.5k vs. 4k display for this model? Thank you.
i think 4k is not suitable for thin laptop. although it is impossible to compare other device and p1 gen, i have a terrible experience of 4k xps15... very ver hot (nearly burning) and continuous fan spinnin in the idle state. i will not get 4k thin laptop before intel or amd catch up macbook
@@ihk5812 thank you for the reply! I had a x1 carbon gen 9 with a 4k screen and it also runs incredibly hot. It also kills the battery (maybe I have 90 minutes battery now just typing notes in word). I may just get the 2560 x 1600. Cheers.
Thanks for the video! It would be great if you could also do some gaming tests. I really like the P1 Gen 7, but I'm a little worried due to the low TGP of 60W and the low Vulcan Score.
yes, I have the same question!
Am I the only one that hates the new camera notch design 😩??? Hope they go back to old design soon.
Agree🖐🥺
ugly af, no idea why they decided to switch to this
hey, do you recommend the p16 over the p1 a lot regarding fan noise? I just got my p1 and found the fans horrible & ~3-5x louder than the old X1E gen 2.
I am thinking about buying the P16 instead, would you recommend it regarding fans?
(I know you said so re the P1 gen 6 in another model).
To be honest, I think that the P16 makes like 10-15% less noise. P1 is thinner, so it has to make up for itself being thin
Did you buy the i9 185 by any chance? I'm not having any problems with the 165 at all
Todah!
Great to see you consistently churn out these reviews!
Thank you for keep on watching 🙏!
Hey all!!! Sorry this is a bit of a selfish post, but maybe not if someone is in need.
I have a comment up above, I did order the P7, and it’s a beast. However, and I know this is taboo, but I think I’m going to go the MacBook route. So, I have a $3,000 usd machine that I’m looking to now sell. I have about 12 hours logged on it. I’ll reset and wipe everything but the OS. I’m looking to get 2,300 for it. If anyone is interested or knows where I can potentially sell this at a fair price please let me know. The machine is flawless. Even the box and all the packing material is preserved.
Thanks all!!
Andy
Hey, no worries at all! Glad to hear you liked the P7 - it’s definitely a powerhouse. If you’re looking to sell it, you might also want to check out some PC or gaming forums, or even local second-hand electronics marketplaces. Places like eBay, Reddit’s hardware swap communities, or dedicated Facebook groups could help you find a buyer more quickly. Good luck, and thanks for sharing here!
OMG, they eventually swap the Ctrl and Fn, my gen6 is painful when try to copy paste.
Who would've thought that they'll swap it!
Gen 6 is better for us Mac users since that's exactly where Macs have Ctrl and Fn, so I prefer my P1 Gen 6 myself.
@@little_fluffy_clouds haha, these two keys can be switched. I am happy about the Gen 6
Doesn't the camera get dirty and scratched when it goes outside the computer on the new model? Also, the back of the computer shows a lot of fingerprints in the video.
Hey, did you see if the gpu really runs at 60W or a bit higher? What is the performance like vs the p1gen6? And can you do a vulkan benchmark with the 4060? I think during the tests it used the intel arc
This model is for business, so stability is much more important than cutting edge functions. I hope lenovo stop chinamizing P1 series. They can play with consumer models instead.
Hi!
Could you swap FN and Ctrl key in BIOS?
@hzoltan13 you can actually change it through Lenovo's app, Lenovo Vantage. There's no need to do it through bios anymore!
Hello super review ! Would be possible to do a review of the p14s intel ? There is whole new chassis and bigger screen. Seem to be the real descendant of the t14 and legit comparaison with the P1
Thank you for the kind words!
Regarding the new P14s - Hopefully I'll get the chance to a review for it. I've heard goods words about that device
Does gen 7 have a little magnet that keeps lid together with the body when you close it?
Of course it does!
That magnet tells the laptop to go to sleep or not
can we charge the laptop from the right using a usb type c charger and the usbc port on the right side?
Hello there!
I've actually tested it - and it's possible to charge using type c (65w) - but it's says that it's giving low voltage, which means less performance.
Compared to the p16 gen 2 which one would you choose?
Neither, I'd search for a P1 gen6 with an RTX 4090 GPU. I have one and it's the closest any Windows laptop can get to flawless. Gen 7 has eliminated physical mouse buttons, which is a step backwards. Also, gen6 doesn't have the dumb co-pilot key, which is a bonus.
Oh no. They pulled a x240 and removed the physical mouse buttons and integrated them into the trackpad. I thought we were over that horrible idea.
is the SD Card slot flushed like the P1 Gen3 ?
Very interesting question, I was asking the same to myself... I hope someone can give an answer 🙏🏻🙏🏻
Can this laptop be charged via USB-C? How does the computer behave when charging only 100W?
Is the thermal management and fan noise good?
It's actually ok!
With time it'll be even better, but now it's good as well.
@@longrhino Hi, why do you say that it will get better over time? Are you referring to future bios updates?
@@asterx_obelix653 That device is REALLY new to the market and it's not fully "updated" with the best drivers. Usually it takes up to 3 months for a new device to be fully stable
I have not noticed fans at all on my P1 G7 i7 165 vPro, only when gaming but that is normal
@@jamestucker4800awesome.. What's the battery life like? Does it have touch and pen support?
What is battery life like?
They use that trackpad again? The trackpad without the iconic 3 buttons
Yup, pretty much broken as it is now.
@@RobertTasarz I have a P1 G7 and nothing is broken about it at all
Why dont find P serie 2 in 1 ? Yoga is very good concept
Well, I guess that's for one reason - It's "too big and nobody would use it as yoga" haha!
I think you are not getting full wifi performance because the router also has to be wifi 7.
You might be right, but the router was literally 1 meter a way from me, and seeing better performance on older types of wifi adapters just makes me feel like it's wrong. Driver updates surely are going to fix it - and if not, that's very sad.
Is that a Slime tattoo from Fiesta?
היי קניתי את המחשב בחו''ל אתה יודע אם אפשר להחליף את המקלדת עם אותיות בעברית ?
אחלה של מחשב, הוא עכשיו המחשב היום-יומי שלי 👌!
לגבי החלפת מקלדת - צריך להחליף בדגם הזה את כל "הגוף עליון".
זה רק לקנות אחד חדש כזה או לעשות חריטה.
@@longrhino תודה אחי ! האמת עדיין לא הזמנתי אותו אני מחפש מחשב 16 אכותי ולא מצאתי אלא המחשב הזה
וASUS G16 AMD
יש לי חבר שחוזר מחו''ל אז זה אותו מחיר
אני עדיין מטבלת אפילו שאני לא משחק בגלל המסך OLED והחומר של השילדה שהוא מתלכלך
מה הייתה עושה
עם ישראל חי
@@eiceys4612
בשניהם מתלכלך...
האמת שזה ממש תלוי במה אתה עושה בחיים, הלפטופ הזה הוא בעיקר איכות חומרים ושירות יותר מאשר תמורה למחיר...
אם אתה שואל אותי - אם אתה לא מכניס מהלפטופ כסף, אין לך מה ללכת על הטינקפד, אלא על האסוס.
@@longrhino היי
בסוף הלכתי על הטינקד. עלה לי 6000שח אני מקבל חדש הדגם עם הi7
32גיגה רם
2tb
4060
דגם 1600p
@@eiceys4612 וואו!! ממש ממש שווה!!
תתחדש, מחיר פגזזז
אני את זה רכשתי בקצת יותר מ-3k$ חחחח
יחי ההבדל הקל
I hope they still use thick bezel rather than those ugly thin bezel webcam
is this version have oled screen?
This one isn't with an oled.
But there's a version with it:
16" WQUXGA (3840 x 2400), OLED, Anti-Reflection/Anti-Smudge, Dolby Vision™, Touch, 100%DCI-P3, 400 nits, 60Hz, Low Blue Light
darn no trackpoint click button?!!!!! wth Lenovo
I read that it works really really well despite the fact that it's not physical.
@@denistaran ive tried the older gen thinkpad with no nav button (the helix, t440), hated it.
Tell me about it, I was super bummed about that too. But it looks like the P14s Gen 5 still has the classic track point buttons.
How is the noise of this machine?
Depends. not too loud, but can be heard easily if you're stressing
Can you show tdp cpu and gpu ?
I had a gen 6 and it had lines on the display from the Touch overlay. Does the gen 7 have this issue too?
By touch you mean the touchpad? never happened to me on the P1 Gen 6, sometimes the keyboard but not the trackpad.
Anyways, it does not seem like it's going to have that kind of an issue, but only time will tell
Made in China ? Or in USA ? Do you know what Laptop is not Made in China ?
How is battery?
good question! :D
I ordered mine with the RTX2k GPU for battery reasons though I would've preferred to pay more to get the addtional cooling. I hope it's the right choice. Therefor I hope his battery life is not as good, comparatively :D
@@hansintakt5228 oopo
Easily can get 6hrs, you could probably push it to 8 if you had to.
Can a 65-watt USB-C charger be used to charge the laptop?
Yes, but it will complain with a notification that it's a slow charger
Nice video and congrats for being the first to upload a review of the new P1 G7.
Btw, the RAM looks smaller because its a new type of RAM called "LPCAMM2", its like 50% smaller than DDR5 SODIMM. Sadly that its soldered.
No, it‘s not soldered. The P1 Gen 7 is the first laptop with the non-soldered LPCAMM2 (developed by Micron). So you now can replace/upgrade it like the good old SO-DIMMs.
@@octanevz @kristhinznr Thank you both for elaborating 🙏🙏
@@octanevz Ohhh I thought they were soldered :O
+1 for Lenovo for including this type of memory, hopefully they become a standard for the next generation of laptops, especially in the T, T/s and P/s series
How hot does it run? Does it get loud?
It's runs hot like a usual workstation, at about 70-80 Celsius degrees.
And it's not too loud, it's OK to live with even when it's on full speed.
@@longrhino are you certain? That is very hot.
It’s quiet when browsing with the 7 series chips. The Ultra 9 is louder.
this camera bump is flugly!
I disagree, looks slick.
Battery???!
Usually I'm not talking about battery life because these is a workstation - which means it has high power usage.
I would suggest about 3 - 5 hours, depends on your workload
Sucks that it has a matte display...bleh
@@TheValiantZero i personally actually perfer the matt.
But there's also an Oled option, still 4k 60hz. 😄
try running macos sequoia on vmware workstation pro
need amd version , intel is bad
Yup, I've been feeling this myself for a while now..
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