The BMW i7 is an Ultra-Luxury Electric Car, but is it worth the money?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 19 มิ.ย. 2024
- Jordan gives you his first impressions of the BMW i7 xDrive60.
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Jordan being professional as always, great presenter.
Jordan reviewing BMWs, his love and competence, is always chefs kiss.👌
no ummmmsss, aaaaahhhs, aaaaahhhh. Can actually watch the entire thing. Big improvement indeed, over you know whom....
18:16 ❤
18:11
I actually LOVE the use of high quality textile materials making their way back into the market, I am so here for it.
I really appreciate this gentleman's content and knowledge. Definitely a massive boost to munro live. Bravo man.
Glad you enjoyed it!
I would call the motor bay a lot of wasted space. With minor rearrangement, they could have added some nice storage. It looks like a repurposed ICE platform, nice, but not very efficient.
Because it is a mixed platform that is also used for the 7 series. Rear boot is big enough, no need for a frunk
you can get the car with only ICE engines for that purpose it's really awesome package
Yes the same on eqs
I totally agree… they felt it did not need a frunk so they just spread everything out and didn’t go any further on the design. I see a lot of possible failure points like the big screen and window shades. Can’t imagine replacement costs out of warranty 😬😬😬
It's interesting how people are always complaining about the lack of a Frunk. I have a frunk in my EV in never use it. Not "must need" feature for me anymore.
MUNRO - BMW suffers from the SAME Spaghetti monster Syndrome as the Muck-e.
But still, in a shorter car with less volume under the hood, they packaged it such that a decent frunk fits. Ford my be a spagjetting and parts catalogue offender, but I got a distinct feeling the engineers at least really cared.
@@Cloxxki - BMW Engineers have the WRONG skill set, ONLY Appliable to OUTDATED ICE cars.
they Dont build Rockets that Land , nor do they make BEST selling Premium CAR on EARTH - model Y.
Every Munro video is great because I learn so much. Havent stopped learning here yet. Thanks guys. Love it.
Our pleasure!
Imagine the deprecation when leaving the car lot
Imagine , the Depreciation by exiting the Vehicle..........lol
Good thing people tend to not sell their cars right after leaving the lot ;)
If one can afford that car, it really doesn't matter.
Good thing you didn't buy a model x plaid
The 750il used to hold the record for the car that lost the most value after X amount of time but most hight end cars do the same.
Jordan is the man!!! $150k?!?! I'll wait three years it'll be $36k like the rest of the BMW's LOL
😂
Modern BMWs are holding their value a little better now. I been seeing 2020 BMWs still going for $40k plus
I want to see Carl look the interior over.
That video is coming soon!
@@MunroLive If you still have the car in-house, please ask Carl to put the red rubber cover for the remote jump start terminal @13:07 back in place :)
I second that.
Carl wont’t be as biased
Something I have found in most cars is the lack of positioning the seat belt for easy reach and not getting jammed between the car seat and the inside of the vehicle. Someone needs to really think that out and fix it for good.
it is nice to see a car not a SUV
A magnificent car at that 🙂
@@b286guycan I sell ur kidney to buy one?
@@luisfernando5998 I want to keep both in case cancer takes one out like what happened to one of my testicles.
@@b286guy are u sure it was cancer ? Maybe u just had blue balls and needed to bust a nut 🥜
Excellent video going through so much of not just what the vehicle has but, most importantly to why I watch this channel, the why's for all the design decisions.
I appreciate that!
Great presentation, as always! 👏👏👏
Thank you! Cheers!
I don't know, this feels like this car will spend more in the shop/dealer than driving. So much features and new hardware makes things likely to go wrong.
Absolutely right, there is a lot of stuff on this car that can and will break and there will hardly be any people who can see through it or repair it poorly. My Toyota made in Japan is 8 years old and nothing has ever broken
@@Munich81245 agreed! we have a cheap Toyota that is almost 20 years old. Because it is simple and is a Toyota, nothing in it needed unexpected repair except parts that are wear and tear or parts that are known to be replaced with mileage and/or age.
@@zodiacfmlMy 1989 INOX saucepan, it will beat your Toyota - not a single repair to date.
And yes, in your logic, people don't need to buy smartphones - as a cheap keyboard phone can last 10+ years, you can replace yourself a battery for $10 and you can throw it away because you've paid like 10 time less than any smartphone from Apple.
Apparently, you don't have friends rich enough to own similar cars. I had some... they don't compete with you, they have to impress the rich friends, and buy a gift for themselves like MB S-Klasse or this BMW.
Many will have drivers... and driver's pay alone make the repair cost difference not very important.
They usually have 2 drivers.
Many BMWs 7 series are used as state cars. With dozens of people working for PM, President or Secretary. Few million dollars budget. And paying extra $5-10K year on maintenance and repair is just nothing.
@@user-nu1vn3yy9s this logic is for a kid. Richest man in the world Elon Musk "only" drives a Tesla which is cheaper than this BMW
anyways, it was exactly my point. it is not like there is no market for the type or level of this car. this BMW is great if a home or owner already has multiple cars since it is no big issue if the car stays in the dealership for weeks or months.
@@zodiacfml I'm sure few VIPs from now on will buy a Tesla. They would prefer - with some exceptions - to buy trusted, traditional brands. Also nice-looking, and looking not like a nerd toy.
BMW, MB and Audi. Look how in Europe people with money started to buy Jaguars and Audi e-tron - regardless of specs.
IT's about tradition and prestige, not battery size.
With German brands making about 15,000,000 cars a year, they will have a ton of money to get better tech in few years.
Tesla leadership will mostly evaporate.
Great review - but, why would anybody in their right mind pay $150,000 for a car with a range of only 300 miles on a sunny day?
In addition, once all the electronics break this car will be an expensive nightmare to maintain.
Most will be leased and the headaches will become the consequences for future owners.
Nonsense.
If you own this car and you have to do more than 300 miles in a single day you'd rather fly with a helicopter :)
@@theagentsmith road trips, especially in inclement weather and at higher speeds, will probably give you at most 240 miles or range. And when you get to a charge station and it is broken you are screwed.
A load of nonsense as usual.
Rockstar review! Huge respect.
The braces may be a cheap and efficient way to achieve numbers they're looking for, but it looks like afterthougts or patches for the bleeding.
Well spoken review Jordan, I do feel he was a little to kind. Let's be honest, there are just too many gimmicky features compared to what I would expect in a 7 series, and areas where BMW straight up ignored.
such as:
-The Engine bay packaging... you can tell BMW had it's suppliers /design teams separately design each system and then integrate it, hoses everywhere. The engine bay could have accommodated a frunk had they removed some of ICE packaging requirements, and forced their design teams to work on part integration like Tesla.
- The fabric no matter how premium doesn't look any more impressive than 25K Subaru
-displays in the doors.... each door has a tablet display, and probably each door has its own display driver board. This is going to cause a terrible customer experience as hardware and software robustness will degrade over time, or be very distracting if one side goes out. If they have a central media computer driving each display, with separate door/window actuators then maybe.
-wonder if that power door has sufficient depth perception /sensor depth perception to prevent a door ding on adjacent cars
-Wondering what features in the car will be subscription based....
Beautiful engineering analyses by Jordan. Thanks!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great overview as always Jordan! Our company is producing all these fancy orange cables in the engine um... motor compartment. I only recently discovered that our US offices are only half an hour away from Munro ;)
Imagine they'd just let Lucid do the drivetrain and packaging... How much better would it be? More range, 400-500 litre frunk and double the power should you need it for some reason.
Since this platform is for the i7 and the regular 7 series they had some design restraints.
Excellent review.
Glad you liked it!
It’s easy to listen to videos with Jordan speaking!
hi Jordan...heard nada about the range or charging experience...how does this compare with the Lucid?
So MAXIMUM possible BMW stuff to have a huge amount of failures and MAXIMUM service cost
....and not like they achieved some kind of beautiful design, looks like LEGO toy with kids adding on stuff for couple days :)
Nice Video!
Thanks!
BMW bragged that they can build both ev and ICE vehicles on the same line. Now, we know why: no frunk! 😔
What a stupid comment. Another person obsessed with frunks.
"Where we are going, we won't need a frunk!"
The EV version also has the bump in the rear passenger compartment for the driveshaft that doesn't exist. BMW just reused the body and chassis, this vehicle was not optimized for an electronic powertrain.
Interesting all those hoses just floating left to bounce out front. I wonder how that holds up after 150k mi
Your new opening sequence is slick - too slick.
There's a meme that says "Nothing is more expensive than a cheap BMW." This car might change my mind about that.
“Hood latch packaging” won but the entire front end is empty. 🤷🏻♂️🤦♂️🤣
Info on that door alone would make me buy it.
L322 is quiet, I bet this is better.
I don’t like this car, but the comments that try to make a point by comparing it to the model S are just hilarious. Totally different cars with totally different USPs.
The BMW just proves the Model S is not a luxury car like they claim!
@@gmv0553yep Tesla is "premium"
The most expensive ICE conversion car
Pig with Lipstick..............lol.
One of the very few non EV-platform vehicles I'd happily drive :D
Awesome! This is exactly the kind of information I was hoping to get from Munro Live (not that I'm in the market for this kind of car).
No one else can provide this level of depth regarding the question - literally - what's under the hood. Thanks Jordan!
I really enjoyed the "Yes, this is a gimmick, but you get something for the money you pay" and vice versa I would like to be warned if an OEM tries to scam me with something that is definitely not worth the price uptick.
Great Job Jordan!
Thanks!
i just wish BMW would drop this crystal aesthetic
Self-cinching doors? Wow just like my 15 year old W221 Benz #progress
Hey, Jordan, does the self-opening door stop if it's too close to another car in a parking lot or garage situation? I noticed that it opened rather wide.
Yes, it senses cars and objects and won't open fully if something is near it.
It opens wide like my golf r..called easy entry unlike too many non German stuff that are highly restrictive..details matter
Makes the Lucid more appealing.
Nice review! I enjoyed the lack of frunk and the motor bay analysis too.
Thanks!
😁07:21 Jordan’s demo of the thigh bolsters is convincing! 👍
Great review! but 'sofa from Costco'? that is a Low Blow!
Great review. I prefer the Porsche Boxster in the parking lot behind. 😂
Beautiful car. I will ignore all the people who say otherwise.
Most of them are just crazy Tesla Fanboys who invested to much money in Tesla stocks!
The target costumer for the i7 doesn't really care about efficiency. He's more focused on the comfort features as the color of the stitching on the seats.
You live in a dream world. Frugality is a virtue.
Costumers typically work for drama groups, comfort is important....
@@seanoneill9130 No one can be comfortable in the back of a Tesla, which is why people needing to be chauffeured buy these type of cars
13:08 The engine bay (frunk) is mostly empty because BMW is sharing the body frame with an ICE version and also an Hydrogen version.
Note: Will you have a video showing the car from underneath?
Hydrogen version?? Ehh
@@rkan2yeah where are the tanks going ?
Wow love it ❤❤❤❤❤
With those big beauty covers manufacturers are saying “you don’t belong in here. Stay out!”
Interesting there's no bracket for the bouncing refrigerant hoses at 15:36. Can't be good for longevity
What’s hilarious is that my 2004 Lexus LS 430 had door “cinchers” on it as well. That’s 21 years ago.
💯%. Good illustration that BMW are like restro-mods show converting some dead ICE platform into a “EV”. BMW has lost then21st century. Too late to recover the brand name. They will not recover by using cinching doors, and auto tightening bolsters.
And they will actually work 3 years later :)
@lifeisfuneh Lexus is a failed brand...they are just a toyota...
@@cengeb and BMW glorified crap, so pick one :)
@lifeisfuneh nope...bmw has a long history of innovation and high quality..Lexus is an after thought by toyota...amazing how all the copy cats follow the German brands to see what to do next
The biggest function is.... OMG ALL THOSE FINGERPRINTS
I worked on automatic doors. Originally it supposed to be able to close, or initiate a close operation, from the outside just by pushing the door a little, by giving it a nudge. Accelerometers have been used, but with no success to exactly determine the nudge
Better to use a pressure sensitive panel perhaps? A door that catches a gust of wind could trigger it accelerometer?
@@Cloxxkiyeah, that was one issue, the other is music from speakers would "hide" any action on the door of a person.
And the microcontroller used for this task was a simple one, not some fancy SoC.
@@catalinmacovei6907 I rather close the doors by myself, this automatic door stuff is so useless and slow...
For that money I'll take a Cybertruck and a model 3 performance.
Me too😎👍
In 2030 when the cybertruck is actually for sale? 😂
I'd rather have a better car/cars than those 2.
Keep dreaming.
@@wvanhees86it’s about to be released what are you even talking about?
The 7-series was always meant to be driven by the owner. This seems to be focused on sitting on the right back seat, it’s basically a business seat on the road. Is this an "L" model or the standard length? Are there different length models?
No. Only 1 length
Another Munro Live!!
Self closing doors are money! I hope it also closes when you press the brake. That’s how my X works; it’s one of my favorite unnecessary features
Shout out to the camera man!
Thanks Eric!
The M package wheels for the i7 are much more attractive (to my eye) but you've got to take the black "mustache" (at minimum) and lose all the chrome trim too. It's really nice to somebody really appreciating the engineering that went into this behemoth.
Do the doors check the roadway is clear before the door swings open and takes out a cyclist - or close passing vehicle?
What about the new/faceliftet model 3?
🙋♂️THANKS JORDAN ,AND ALL THE MUNRO TEAM …COOL😎INTRO MUSIC 💚💚💚
The cloth is actually cashmere, at least that's what BMW calls it in it's configurator. Never seen cashmere applied to automotive seats before.
Lots of finger print options on the read door entertainment center control screen . You know what am taking if you keep rubbing off fingerprint off your smartphone screen.
Great review! As I came to notice through the years on German cars and also on BMWs, perceived quality with nice materials isn’t always synonymous of actual quality, more than often a nice plastics peels off or even softens and melts, nice «metal» surfaces are actually just a thin veneer of metal… I bet they actually make much higher margins on their higher end models!
There are still differences within those manufacturers... Also with trim options.
Every manufacturer makes more profit % and $ on the high end versions of their vehicle, if not they doing it all wrong.
Masterpiece!!!
KRAP
@@markplott4820I'm about technology and about this video :)
@@VasilyPavlik - what Technology ? old fashioned ICE ?
TESLA has MORE Advanced tech than BMW, Mercedes , Porsche, Audi
MUNRO - what I see is too many FASTNERS , too many Bolts & Screws , too many Wields , and too many BRACKETS that hold more Brackets, in the BMW i7......lol.
Sweet Chrysler 300😂
I thought the same thing!! :)
I wish BMW fitted a compact spare tire under the hood. Aesthetically, I love those specific dish wheels.
if you can afford a $100K+ car, you can afford a AAA membership
@@cyclopsvision6370 Most people that have earned enough money to afford a $100+ car don't have the patience to sit in the middle of a desert or forest to wait for AAA. In the city AAA is quick and fine but luxury is having excess capacity and worries removed.
Yep, they add all that bling KNOWING it'll break, and you'll be back at the dealer SOON!!
17:45 sorry, but you don't need to put cooling vertically on BEV, and many have it horizontal, so this all story is no issue if you design BEV as BEV not do as you did in ICE vehicle.
Automatic door dinger? Hope it has a detection device for other cars
Director of Commercial Operations.
I ordered the car year ago with all the features and got it without automatic door opening feature and without massaging seats.
You’re really missing something! I tell you the luxury is something else.
Sorry to hear. I have never even sat in massaging seats but in a car of this caliber I could definitely not live without it. Same for ventilated seats which I've never expereinced, but now that I know they exist, I won't be able to live without it. My back needs both now.
@@Cloxxki ID.4 has massaging seats.
@@privettoli I might bother the dealership to have a go in those seats then. "Oh yeah, that's the spot! "
11:00 don't Tesla Model X have similar sensor but hidden?
That all sounds quite nice, but it is obviously a car that you should never buy used, unless money is not a factor. But then you can also buy it new and even get your favorite color.
door auto opens from outside as well lol
Right out of the lucid play book, build an expensive car for a tiny market. But will they make any money?
Tearing this car apart will be a CRIME!!
not going to be taken apart, this vehicle was a press / media loaner
The last BMW, regardless of the propulsion tech., was the E38 (7-series 1994-2001) period.
You forgot to mention that those seats house a special ventilator extraction system which removes occasionally emitted orders and filters them through multiple charcoal chambers to the external atmosphere ! 🤣🤣
IMO, the 5 series F10 is one of if the best looking BMWs ever made. The style was great and the proportions were just right. The F30 and F01 were a similar style but the 3 series was too squashed up and the 7 series was too streached and guawdy.
This is the Rolls Royce they should have made.
Also how ironic……a B&W sound system in a BMW LOL!
Is it worth the money? No: buy a home in Pittsburgh and rent it out instead. Am I happy I bought one? Yes, absolutely, it’s an amazing vehicle.
Maybe the cloth seats are, like in the Toyota Century, aimed at a buyer more concerned with comfort than nouveau-riche image? But then there's the grille, which is all about that image. And the hideous headlights (like a bad copy of a Genesis).
Probably only video I didn’t love from Munro. I still watched it to the end.
1:00 - of course you're a car reviewing channel! But unlike any other, you review the car down to the last individual piece... 🙂
SCNR
MUNRO - I see BMW i7 still has raised REAR center floor, in a "PREMIUM" Luxury vehicle.
TESLA model S/X have Always had Completely FLAT floors.
this is something both BMW , Mercedes , Porsche , Audi and Looocid need to LEARN.
Why does it have headlights straight off a 2016 jeep cherokee?
Why not?
Looks like a future matenance nightmare with all the extra parts.
Is it only me or does the front of the car resemble Pumbaa from Timo and Pumbaa?
Wool is the new leather.
I guess the obvious savings for BMW shareholders would be via the elimination of the steering column mounted stalks and all those short cut buttons, and burying the lost control functions in a SINGLE screen. So much cheaper to manufacture and greater profit margin. That’s what Sandy would prefer to own and drive………..right?.
it's pretty convenient, there are huge shortcuts on the main screen. And you can use the control knob to navigate, I found myself using the screen quite rarely. And there's quite reliable self steering
This car has a 6 foot long hood if there’s no front storage, ridiculous
It's also a platform for the ice vehicles. As such it is not ridiculous at all and most people don't use their frunk.
@@JohnnyZenith I use my Model S frunk every week
The body chassis is the same for the gasoline and electric powertrain
Absolutely ridiculous , lazy engineering.
I actually like the fabric/leather combo.
Like he said, not too hot or cold exactly where your body sits, and fancy leather where there's minimal body contact so it stays looking fresh after many years.
I will take high quality fabric over cheap leather any day.
You know… lets count em…
"Give me some suede, some leather" - like there is only one car with one trim level available.
What is MBH? EAC? I think if BMW cared about aerodynamics they wouldn't have open wheel wells all around. The lights appear to be flashing?
Wouldn't call having a cloth option for seats ''skimping'', it has its clear advantages. And as someone that buys this segment of cars, I am very happy to see this.
"that being said" drinking game