Fun fact: Claiming that photos of a spherical earth are just hyperrealistic paintings doesn't go well with only being able to show paintings and computer graphics of a flat earth.
All depictions of the flat earth snowglobe are paintings ... hence (by their own reasoning) the flat earth must be fake! I'll gladly believe it the day we see a REAL photo of the flat earth.
well you have to realize that "Them/They" have such advanced technology that the cGi they produce is better than real life. Still not sure what the end game for the "Them" is but I'm sure it's really bad..
Pretty funny how startled he was by the fact that his yard is one inch higher on one side than the other. Did he really think the earth is COMPLETELY flat? Does he think mountains and hills are fake?
You gotta love the moment Phuket Word realizes his back garden is not level. Then he tries hiding the fact, not realizing that it has no bearing whatsoever on his experiment. Come to think of it all of the fine specimens in this video are perfect examples of putting the cart before the horse. A straight line can be defined by two fixed points in space. that does not mean any line crossing both points is straight. 90% of earths population receiving sunlight does not mean 90% of the earths surface is. The fact that you can have a flat tire doesn't mean the earth is flat. A painting of somethng does not preclude the existance of something and having a photograph taken doesn't rob you of your soul.
Its a special breed of arrogant fuckwit trash of a person that screws up that bad and doesn't bother to reshoot a new take. Im therefore, as he remembers to how to keep breathing, forced to conclude hes not that dumb and hes taking the piss. He knows what hes doing, he knows its bullshit, maybe hes so high on sniffing his own farts is like a believing in god knowing we all end up as worm food level of self disillusion he slipped into when he noticed others were going along with the 'sky daddy' like story. But either way, there is no possible way, none at all that he doesnt know hes full of shit, and either gets off on it or assumes everyone else is stupid and can therefore lie to them. None of that equals someone id cry over catching a brick to the head..... Being nice to stupid behavior is over. Time to mean up again....we have plenty of justified targets now....
@@clayhead12000 well, at .5in over 6ft thats a grade of .69% or .49% over 9ft or ~3m. I mean thats far from insurmountable, heck probably provides some decent drainage (though could lead to erosion if the out flows are too strong...). For the life of me I cannot figure out why not just make another take? Like does he think hes being more honest by doing it off the cuff instead of setting it up beforehand like us crafty evil scientists?
What frustrates me the most about flat earthers is that whenever something proves them wrong, they just throw it out and move on. Man, that boils my blood.
Don’t be super critical of their journey. It’s good that they throw out their failed science eventually they will run out of bad science and come to the conclusion that the earth is round.
Don’t be super critical of their journey. It’s good that they throw out their failed science eventually they will run out of bad science and come to the conclusion that the earth is round.
Don’t be super critical of their journey. It’s good that they throw out their failed science eventually they will run out of bad science and come to the conclusion that the earth is round.
When cornered, they either throw out the inconvenient part (despite not even understanding it), or will just call you a shill and randomly declare you're not worth debating you anymore.
Again, I say, there are only two types of flat earthers: 1. Trolls, people who KNOW the Earth isn't flat, but derive their entertainment (and income in many cases) from the gullible who believe them. 2. Fools, who believe and parrot (and support) what the trolls tell them without critically applying their own intellect. My only question to these people is "Which are you?". Thanks again, SciManDan, for providing me with this entertainment without my having to give these people support through clicks on their postings!
I think there is a third category, those who are grifting, but are also truly stupid. Those such as Mr Thrive and Survive who claimed that, as the FE Sun took 24 hours to travel round each Tropic, it didn't have to change its speed.
It's not saying that 99% of people see the *Sun* at the same time, it's saying they can see *Sun light* at the same time. This includes the twilight hours before sunrise and after sunset when you can't see the sun but it isn't completely dark either. And remember that it says *99% of people* and not *99% of the Earth's surface.* 2 very different things.
Flerfs never have been particularly good at paying attention to details. It's their secret superpower to get everything wrong. "1. Flerf citations always contradict the flerf’s claim. No exceptions."
Exactly. When you include the twilight, that (by definition) adds another 18 degrees (2000 km) band of surface beyond the terminator. Not a trivial mistake.
It’s undeniably simple. If you travel in a straight line in any direction on the earth, you will eventually come back to the place where you started without ever encountering an edge. If the Flat Earthers want to prove that it’s flat all they have to do is provide a photo of the edge. Also, they never state where that edge is actually located, and why has nobody ever fallen off the edge?
The edge is obviously the south pole guarded by militaries from different countries, so we can't show you that edge, if we'd try we would most likely get shot.
LEO: "Get your globe out and test it yourself, it's not gonna happen" Dan: *gets the globe out and makes it happen* What an absolutely glorious fail xDDD
One thing i keep noticing about all these flatties is that they have absolutely no concept of scale and they all think the Sun is a couple of hundred yards away.smh.👍
Most of them aren't trying to prove anything, they're only interested in disproving the "official narrative". They arent interested in knowledge, only in being contrarian.
I think this is spurred on by the algorithm. they get clicks and that means dollars. Before the internet these idiots would just mumble to themselves and be largely ignored if they tried to strike up a conversation with a random passer-by. Now social media fuels all delusions. The more fringe the better!
Absolutely beautiful. This is literally the one thing left you can say that guarantees you win a the debate. Then just watch the flat earther melt as they truly can’t grasp the truth 😂
@@patrickspapens5497 I LOVE Santos. He's absolutely hilarious. That level of clue less, desperately trying to convince people he's an expert at something. I swear he would try it on a rock if he could.
So, let me get this straight. Phuket designs an "experiment", doesn't actually test it first, hits record on the camera, realizes while filming it doesn't work... and yet he STILL puts out the video? 🤣
The water tube technique is used by builders all over Asia. It has nothing to do with the shape of the earth, but it’s useful as a measure of level over the scale of a building
@@bob_the_bomb4508Since no one can definitively describe how the pyramids were constructed, alien gifts of plastic tubes is feasible. The fact that there is no evidence of left over plastic tubes proves the aliens returned and cleaned up the construction sites.
and sometime within the past year, someone recounted how in an EXTREMELY long building, they used a water level to lay out a horizontal line on a wall, then checked it with a laser, and the water level line had a measurable arch to it.
Asia , Africa and Europe and you already have 7/8 of worlds population covered , American continents have 1 billion population combined . Real hard math , takes years to master 🙂
They just gloss over any inconvenient facts that mess their narrative up. Or make up some crazy, contorted reason why the Pacific is either smaller than it is or doesn't exist... This is a realm of make-believe. They're not interrested in facts/reality. And yes, many of them are christians/young earth creationists as well.
That’s right little boys and girls. 🐑 It’s FLAT. Don’t forget it. No curve = not a globe. Something 71% level/flat water CANNOT POSSIBLY be 29% spherical. Anyone that attended pre-school can verify this fact about shapes. 💥Boom💥 Globe earth disproven and debunked permanently. P.S. To the NASA employees and shills here each commenting from their 10 different fake alt accounts: It’s over but let’s talk about it. Send in the best of the best to answer my questions. Let’s go. Who’s the smartest person in this 4 day old Taco Bell under the car seat diarrhea splattered porcelain bowl Aka scimandans propaganda shill page..
"Why would people be lying about the shape of the earth and distance to the sun/stars?" "Here's a painting of Jim Carrey and Morgan Freeman!" Well, that settles that.
Dan's response about Jim Carrey and Morgan Freeman not existing is the best comeback. Honestly, if you want to fight a flat earther, don't use reason and logic. Use THEIR reason and logic. Use reverse psychology on them like their 8 years old. You: But Pythagoras and Eratosthenes found the earth was round a long time ago! And here's a picture of the earth! Flerf: History's a lie! They never existed! That was a later fabrication! Pictures are fake! Also Flerf: Now here's this book I found or this experiment was done. Here's a picture proving the ice wall or the dome. You: History is a lie! Those people never existed! It was a fabrication! Pictures are fake! Or, my favorite: Flerf: The moon landing was fake! You: *scoffs* You believe in the moon? 🙄
@@XtreeM_FaiL Why would a Wookiee, an 8-foot-tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of 2-foot-tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with the shape of the earth? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with the shape! It does not make sense! Look at me. I'm a photographer defending a stupid cult, and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you're debatin' and conjugatin' the Emancipation Proclamation, does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed globe, it does not make sense! If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit! The shape rests. c:
Never thought I'd turn up in a Flat Earth Fail Compilation :D I always love Nathans circular logic fails with that: Celestial Navigation is apparently flat Earth elevation angles to stars .... We can provably use elevation angles to get the angular size of an object and thus work out the distance from top to bottom of it ... This apparently proves the Earth is flat ... But then Nathan constantly bangs on that we can't use elevation angles to determine the height to stars because it doesn't work 🤔
I have been reliably told by several flat earthers that the height of the object is never calculated in celestial navigation, so you can just ignore it. Apparently geometry is something to add to the list of things flat earthers don't understand.
@@FuryPilot That's what makes this all the more amusing - they say you can't calculate the height using elevation angles, then try to argue that a demonstration showing that we can calculate height using elevations proves the Earth is flat ... but that we still can't use that apparent flat Earth proof because it doesn't work with on the stars🤦♂ Then again, I suspect Nathan knows this which is why he constantly pauses and shouts word salad to reset his audience
@@DaveMcKeegan I've been trying to get a flat earther to explain how a bubble sextant gets an elevation angle, as no dip correction is applied and 'the horizontal baseline" is obviously not the surface. It alternates between crickets and abuse.
@@FuryPilot Funnily enough, this video of mine that Nathan is covering was aimed at him, the 2nd half of my video included a section about dip correction, because Nathan has stated on numerous occasions that you can use a sextant from a plane - meaning your baseline to the horizon isn't horizontal so you have to use dip correction, but then I showed a video from Ion2 where he plotted out the dip corrections from a nautical almanac and unsurprisingly it creates a perfect curve with a radius of 7/6 globe Earth to include refraction Nathan has only ever publicly addressed the first half of the video ... Seems too scared to try and address the 2nd half 😁
Remember when you were allowed to ignore friction in physics 1 because they didn't want you distracted by additional complications? I think these people took that to mean friction doesn't exist, and similar.
They really do think they are scientists and ignoring the stuff that refutes the belief is ok. It doesn't get any worse than FEs pretending to science.
Yup. Just like they take the NASA launch calculations that "ignore" curvature because it just isn't relative to a rocket blasting off of the earth. The only necessary information is the gravitational constant.
If I remember correctly, Dave's example in that video with the bottle wasn't even that we can assume that it's flat for measuring purposes because the curve is so slight. He was literally providing an example of how measuring height using a triangle works. He then went on in that same video to explain that we create a false flat Baseline using what we know about the radius of the Earth. It involves math and calculations more complicated than simply assuming the World is Flat. His entire video was to demonstrate how we measure height using triangles on a curved surface. And what Nathan Oakley did is cherry pick the moment that he is demonstrating how measurement itself works, and then saying that is Dave's argument. And he has the balls to claim that Dave is strawmanning. He's such a garbage con man.
It's how they work. It is either outright lies, word salad, cherry-picking, or just straight ignoring anything they don't agree with. Usually some mix of them.
I love that his audience just completely missed him say "I shouldn't have been so fearful of this video"... then when he saw one example of using a "flat" measure, bam! something he can laugh at and continue the con for his audience. he must have such a sad existence
I've heard the line "water always finds its level" numerous times, but they never explain why they think this happens, or why they think this could have nothing to do with gravity.
If you thought that was crazy you should see what the “smartest” globe earth people regularly present as evidence for their debunked/disproven claim of earth being a wet rock flying and spinning “66600mph x1040mph.” 😂 30x faster than a bullet boys and girls.. only thing is you can’t feel it, see it or measure it in any way. It’s REALLY BADDD. Almost unbelievable that people still believe in all this garbage. 😂
Lol jokes on you, because recent studies have come out showing that the universe is actually a hologram. It’s on a 2d surface projecting out information into 3d space
That first "level water" is remarkable as he offered no evidence that the water was level. Bizarre to try to do that by measuring to the lawn, as if his garden doesn't have any bumps or slope to it. The experiment assumed that water in a tube will be level, and at the end he declared as proven that assumption, but without proving it.
When I Level Earth Observer's voice, I think of some sad little kid who was bullied at school and now wants to get back at the world by being insufferable
No nathan would say, the gas pressure will need containment. The globerbwouldnsay, nonitndoesnt, gravity will hold the air on the rim. No tyre required.
Phuket Word basically demonstrated how pressures work with liquids in a tube, and even then he tried to hide the fact that his own experiment was proving him wrong when he measured the 2nd tube. I just love that slight pause when he realized he was screwed but needed to play along.
But the worst part is, for him at least, is that despite it all, he STILL published the video of his own failure... Just can't make that shit up... Phuck-It is in a stupid whole class all by himself...
This video can be summed up by revealing each of these felrfs inner monologues. Phuket Word: "Water always finds it's level....within reason." LEO: "Just deny deny deny." Nathan Jokely: "Just keep laughing and shouting and people will agree with me." David Weiss: "Just keep spurting word salad to directly avoid the question I was asked." Love these compilations Dan. Keep it up.
David Weiss really took the cake at the end there with "So why are they doing this?"/"Well look at these photos!"... a masterclass in fundamentally not having an answer.
Most flat earthers have realised that answering questions is very dangerous for their claims. I asked a flat earther what was the distance round the Equator. They replied with 24,900 miles. That was all I needed to show them conclusively the Earth could not be flat.
@@michaelburk9171 . They can quibble as much as they like, but there is still a circle of about 6,220 miles radius from the North Pole on either globe or flat earth. The difference of course is on a flat earth, that line is about 55% longer than we know it to be.
One of the many things i fail to understand about flat earthers is why do they depict the sun and moon as spherical, but the earth still has to be flat?
The question was: “why fake it?” Dave’s answer to the question: “well, people can paint very realistic paintings”. Thank you for answering something that I’ve never asked, Dave! Hahahaha
That is the question it all falls apart on. He doesn't answer it, because he does not have an answer! There is no reason for anyone to do this at all! I wanted to scream at him, to answer the dam question...
@@Peroman200I've heard a lot of flat earthers say "to control you" but I feel like it'd be easier to control people by convincing them "space doesn't exist there's nothing out there don't waste your time looking further... Oh and a wizard made everything, it's true because a bunch of dudes took stories written by other dudes and threw them into one book, essentially an ancient version of Grimm's Fairytales is the truth"
@@simplekid4328 Good point, I have heard that too, but I haven't been able to figure out how. The shape of the Earth has in no way impaired my ability to see many problems that exist on it, a lot of them caused by "the establishment" or whatever threat de jour they pin it on.
@@Peroman200 Yep it's never made any sense as a conspiracy, it's harder to maintain the conspiracy than accept 'the truth' and has no benefits whatsoever.
“Water always finds it level…” “Right right… Wait. What does that mean?” “Well it means water always finds its level.” “Right but what does that MEAN?” “Um…”
I like how on that first video, he decided to do an experiment that required accurate measurements from the ground to the water level, and instead of doing it on a flat surface, he chose to do it on dirt. Hardly a more uneven surface than that.
It's also clear that he thought up the experiment and filmed it, and posted within about 20 minutes. No testing beforehand to be certain of his result. No take 2. Just "Hey I have an idea...hey, that's odd...we'll call it a win!!"
When every city in the world disappears past the horizon after roughly 15 miles is undeniable. The fact that the conversation is still existing is proof that some people are truly unsavable.
Looking at Phuket Word's setup, I'd say his two tubes were about 2 metres apart. Based on that, the deviation of the curve of the Earth from a straight line halfway between the two would be about 80 nanometres. A bit tricky to see by eye, especially when his marker pen makes a line about 5 mm thick!
Actually, they would, in principle, be exactly the same height. But if you had 3 connected tubes - well, they'd still all be the same height - but a dead straight line across each end level would reveal the middle one a bit higher. But you would have to do that over a great distance to get a difference you could measure ; not across someone's back yard.
Yeah, it was total cherry-picking. I saw Dave’s video. He was talking about solving for curvature when measuring the distance to an astrological body. The part they used was just a primer of how you can use geometry to find the height of something.
It just occurred to me that using a really big lake is a good way to prove the earths curvature and I actually have video proof from the 90s. We used to go to a place called Lake Cumberland in Kentucky and there is a part of it where its about 10 miles of visible water to the dam. It's pretty cool to watch the dam literally show more of itself as you get closer to it. This is a hard thing to explain on a flat earth.
@@SolidSiren Yes it sure is! You should look up all the things that they had to do with the dam, they spent half a billion in repairs because it used to be the most in risk of failure in the United States. It's pretty interesting to anyone that has been there, lots of great childhood memories come flooding back in when I did it. I've only been there once as an adult but it was still really fun.
@@SolidSiren I am going back there in the next year or so to spread my father's ashes, that was his favorite place in the entire world. Nice to meet a fellow Lake Cumberland enthusiast!
@@DeathBYDesign666 Sorry to say, but IF your video was shot in the 15th century, the flat earther would believe it. You know, in their minds science was better 500 years ago. Or so... Rgr
Nathan Oakley talking about the perfect example for Dunning Kruger is just hilarious. 😂 I mean Nathan could be the original specimen that this tests where running with. 🤣
He's like so many anti-intellectuals, whenever some criticism is leveled at him he just repeats it back without understanding, context, correctness....it's the epitome of kindergarten "i'm rubber you're glue whatever you say bounces of me and sticks to you!" style of argument. Why come up with a functioning map / model, when he can just squawk "DUNNING KRUGER" and strut away like a pigeon shitting on a chessboard.
@@mallninja9805 "Anti-intellectual" makes him sound multiple order of magnitude too smart, in my opinion. His intelligence is closer to the level of a parrot.
As much as I appreciate your efforts, good sir, the fact that the flat earth argument is still being made is just hard proof humanity doesn't deserve this precious spherical paradise of a planet.
I like the way Planarwalk summed it up: "water perfectly conforms to the forces acting on it." Which, iirc, is the definition of a fluid, overall (with the distinction between liquid and gas being whether it has a fixed volume).
The real reason aliens don't visit Earth is not the distance (though that can be daunting) but the fact we still have people like Oakley, Weiss, LEO, and Puket hanging about!
I had a vision of a version on the Smash advert where the aliens are rolling around laughing because there are a bunch of people who think the earth is flat.
The first one floored me. I don’t even need to see the rest of the video. Dude said don’t let anyone tell you the earth is curved even if they give you an exact radius can calculate its size and curvature, just trust our little science experiment here that demonstrates pascals law and has nothing to do with earths shape
But Weiss has literally zero logic skills. Remember he found an old lady to tell us that 50 years ago everyone was taught the earth was flat in school? It was true because Ruth said so. That's really what he thought. He looked so proud to be using an adolescent-level fallacy.
DITRH also completely avoided the last question. He was asked "Why?" and he said "Here look, it is fake". That is NOT an answer... because he doesn't have an answer.
Most people might have also noted how he did not give a distance to the sun. He obviously doesn't want to agree to the flat earth society, which gave 47 miles as a number and he doesn't believe in the 150.000.000 km, but how far away exactly is the sun? He knows that if he gives you a number this number can be proven wrong, so he doesn't provide a number.
Well in the next level he an others talk about "hiding God" as the reason. I would like to ask him why an ordained priest, a lifelong devoted Christian, would want to hide God. The person is a childhood friend of my ex wife, and was prime minister of Norway for 8 years, and financing ESA. Also my astronomy professor at University, one of Norway's top scientists on the sun at the time, told us that he was Christian. Would love to have seen him crush Dirt in a debate.
@@Eirran2it’s not even a question as to who could hide God but a question of how in the world could you hide a being that is far beyond any human understanding/comprehension living outside of time and space with unlimited powers? The same God these people say can be hidden is the same God that says let there be light? How in the hell could you even attempt to hide a God 😂
I feel dumber for watching this. You’re channel is brilliant. I can’t believe these people exist, and that you have a whole channel to rebut this. Big up!
I was blocked by Phuket on Twitter about a year ago for just simply making sense. He didn't like it when I asked him to take a telescope and photograph a west coast skyline. Lol. Never ceases to amaze me how they cannot think on larger scales other than their own back yard...🤦
There's nothing like a well controlled experiment, and that was nothing like one. Well done Phuket, what you really need is to measure the distance at the top and bottom of your canes - though they will need to be a lot further apart and considerably taller (like the towers of the Humber bridge, for instance). Edit: 17:09 Nice bait and switch Dave, the question was *why.*
That tube experiment. How exactly do you measure a curve with only two points? You can’t. You need at least three points of measurement to determine a curve.
Have you seen his three lighter trick? He wanted to show that a distant object, higher than two others of the same height, could appear to be lower on a flat earth. He put three lighters in a line and lined up the camera along the top, showing them to line up. Then he put the last one on a book, removed the middle one and lowered the camera below the top of the first one, so it appeared to be higher than the one on the book.
Huyghens did a simple brightness comparison of the Sun through different sized pinholes and Sirius to estimate the latters distance as just under half a lightyear but that assumed Sirius had the same luminosity as the Sun plus the method relied on memory as they couldn't be compared side by side. Gregory used Jupiter instead which gave 1.3 light years, which if corrected for the lumnosity of Sirius at 25.4 that of the Sun gives 6.6 lightyears, not bad when the actual value at 8.6 !
You notice that Dave Weiss never answered the interviewer's question as to how far away flat earthers think the sun is. I had a week long back and forth with this clown emailing him and that's exactly what he does. I repeatedly kept asking him "If Antarctica isn't going around us does that not COMPLETELY destroy the entire flat earth movement?" and he refused to ever answer the question. He will never answer a question that pins him into a corner where it can be falsified and destroy his little flat earth fantasy.
Yes, when asked if the sun was 37 miles away he answered with"well that's closer than 93 million miles which is ridiculous " 😂😂😂 What a cognitively biased fallacy generator he is 😮
@@jocec3283 Just remember, when you're on that plane they're fooling you. The pilot is really flying around in circles to make it seem like like a long flight on a curved globe. They're all in on it!
I love how, no matter how many thousands of times you tell a flerf "Level doesn't mean flat" they just absolutely can not let those words cross into their incredibly thick skulls. Their ears will funnel the soundwaves. Their eyes may see your mouth say them. Their eardrum may vibrate to send the signal in for processing. But somehow, somewhere along the way. A little guard stops the signal, reads it, and says, "Nope, we can't allow this in. It's not structurally sound enough in there. We try and put this in place and the whole thing may come crashing down."
I can imagine Nathan jumping up and down while pointing at the screen, yelling "See, see! He used the word 'flat'! That proves flat earth!" like the child he is. Dear, oh dear...
I'm not going to lie, when I first heard this as an example of flat earth and the canal they all like to use as their example and water etc to find the earth is flat, it took me about 3 seconds to figure out the flaws in it. Clearly his 3 seconds is longer on a flat earth than mine.
Hey Dan, I have a question. If there is such a huge following of flat Earth folks, why don't they come together and pool money together to take a trip to space with one of the shuttles? They can choose a person that they feel is reputable in their Flat community.
When the chosen one comes back to earth and tells them it's a globe, flat earthers will at that moment realize all this time the chosen one was actually an actor planted by the globe plotters
@SB4F lmao, no kidding right? Sounds helpless. Easy Observation is: Everything outside of Earth is a globe except us? I don't know how they would answer that one. Probably, " All flat disks planets face earth at the right angle, that's why, duh! " lol. Guess it doesn't matter what logic is thrown at them, let alone science.
Because Bob once said, that even if we could get to space, we would see the earth as round because our eyes are round. I'm not joking. It wouldn't matter to them
OMG!! I saw Dave McKeegan's video that those guys are mocking. AFTER showing triangulation on a flat surface he then goes on to show how it works on a globe. These guys skipped most of his video just to make him look bad. That's about as dishonest as it gets.
This is as hilarious as the photos from the moon landing. I mean different light sources are causing different shadows. How many suns are there again? Dumb flat earthers.
Maybe if he'd put bungs in each end of his tube, then moved them up & down, he would have freaked out totally. ( Or just not posted the video ). When both ends are open to the atmosphere, they are at the same atmospheric pressure above the 2 menisci [ assuming that they are geographically close ]. THAT's why they are at the same height. Using the surface of his 'garden' as the datum for his height measurements always looked like a dumb idea, especially when he never provided any evidence that he thought THAT was 'flat'. Lifting up one end of the tube means that he is pushing the same volume of water into a smaller volume of tube. Inevitably some will spill out, & I personally would be shocked & amazed if it spilled out of the higher end. He talks about separating the tube ends by " hundreds of miles", which opens the possibility of having different atmospheric pressure at each location. How is he going to establish his measuring datum to record that the heights in the tube are exactly the same then?
@@chassetterfield9559 I'd love to think he'd have still posted the video of a tube with a bung in each end and said 'there, they are still the same level, erm.... more or less. Well, thereabouts'. As someone else has commented, a second take seems not to be an option to people like Phuket
Other than the great debunks, I will be a little cheeky with our man Dan and say that joking about using inches when using miles yourself makes me smile, but it's all in good fun. Great video as always !
I just ask one question that "flerfs" cannot answer. "if the earth is falt, then please explain how the sun doesn't set during the summer months of the North, then the south poles, yet goes overhead at the equator every single day?" Easily explained with a spherical earth model.
1) Phuket Word was nearly an inch passed "level" and he still published it as proof! 😂 2) Yes, Leo. When the entire Pacific Ocean is in nighttime, 99% of the world's population will experience daylight. How many people do you think live in the entire Pacific Ocean Leo? It covers nearly half the water mass even on a flat map. 3) Nathan, I'm standing on the beach in São Pedro de Moel in Portugal looking due west. At exactly this latitude of 39º 45' N and within 3" of where I'm standing sits the Barnaget Lighthouse on the northern tip of Long Island, New Jersey at 52m above sea level across the Atlantic Ocean. If the Earth is flat, you should have no trouble taking a picture of it what with the sea being level and all. Go for it and shut us all up once and for all. I'd even accept a picture of its roof. 4) DITRH, he asked you why they wouldn't tell you about flat earth and then you brought in trick paintings, distracting the interviewer from the fact that you completely rejected his question and answered your own. Lacking in confidence in your own theory? Dear oh dear.
I actually got into the flat earth thing for about a year or so, and I really did start to believe it! But then I stopped smoking meth... True story lol fr 😂
Fun fact: Claiming that photos of a spherical earth are just hyperrealistic paintings doesn't go well with only being able to show paintings and computer graphics of a flat earth.
All depictions of the flat earth snowglobe are paintings ... hence (by their own reasoning) the flat earth must be fake! I'll gladly believe it the day we see a REAL photo of the flat earth.
Haha. Yes, you're so right! Lol
Indeed, but he was asked 'why the hoax?'....then presented the pictures??
well you have to realize that "Them/They" have such advanced technology that the cGi they produce is better than real life.
Still not sure what the end game for the "Them" is but I'm sure it's really bad..
@@neilbowler7866 I think that's totally normal flerf behaviour when being asked a question they can't or don't want to answer. :)
Omg, literally laughed out loud when Phuket Word screwed up his own completely useless experiment.
The pointlessness was truly epic.
Can't believe he has suckered someone into being his 'assistant'. Really hoping it is not a kid being fed this rubbish.
Pretty funny how startled he was by the fact that his yard is one inch higher on one side than the other. Did he really think the earth is COMPLETELY flat? Does he think mountains and hills are fake?
looks like a homeless man doing an experiment from a back alley somewhere.
its not completely useless. Its a very important point, but as Dan pointed out its a pressure experiment, not level.
You gotta love the moment Phuket Word realizes his back garden is not level. Then he tries hiding the fact, not realizing that it has no bearing whatsoever on his experiment.
Come to think of it all of the fine specimens in this video are perfect examples of putting the cart before the horse.
A straight line can be defined by two fixed points in space. that does not mean any line crossing both points is straight.
90% of earths population receiving sunlight does not mean 90% of the earths surface is.
The fact that you can have a flat tire doesn't mean the earth is flat.
A painting of somethng does not preclude the existance of something and having a photograph taken doesn't rob you of your soul.
You know you're seeing a precise scientific experiment when the person says words like "similar" and "thereabouts".
And billions of people believing there is such a thing as a soul, doesn't make it true either.
Its a special breed of arrogant fuckwit trash of a person that screws up that bad and doesn't bother to reshoot a new take. Im therefore, as he remembers to how to keep breathing, forced to conclude hes not that dumb and hes taking the piss. He knows what hes doing, he knows its bullshit, maybe hes so high on sniffing his own farts is like a believing in god knowing we all end up as worm food level of self disillusion he slipped into when he noticed others were going along with the 'sky daddy' like story. But either way, there is no possible way, none at all that he doesnt know hes full of shit, and either gets off on it or assumes everyone else is stupid and can therefore lie to them.
None of that equals someone id cry over catching a brick to the head..... Being nice to stupid behavior is over. Time to mean up again....we have plenty of justified targets now....
The best part is that his sticks were probably no more than 3 metres apart so even if he hadn't have cocked it up it would still prove nothing.
@@clayhead12000 well, at .5in over 6ft thats a grade of .69% or .49% over 9ft or ~3m.
I mean thats far from insurmountable, heck probably provides some decent drainage (though could lead to erosion if the out flows are too strong...).
For the life of me I cannot figure out why not just make another take? Like does he think hes being more honest by doing it off the cuff instead of setting it up beforehand like us crafty evil scientists?
What frustrates me the most about flat earthers is that whenever something proves them wrong, they just throw it out and move on. Man, that boils my blood.
I used to let them make me angry then I felt sorry for them, now I just laugh at them
Don’t be super critical of their journey. It’s good that they throw out their failed science eventually they will run out of bad science and come to the conclusion that the earth is round.
Don’t be super critical of their journey. It’s good that they throw out their failed science eventually they will run out of bad science and come to the conclusion that the earth is round.
Don’t be super critical of their journey. It’s good that they throw out their failed science eventually they will run out of bad science and come to the conclusion that the earth is round.
When cornered, they either throw out the inconvenient part (despite not even understanding it), or will just call you a shill and randomly declare you're not worth debating you anymore.
Again, I say, there are only two types of flat earthers:
1. Trolls, people who KNOW the Earth isn't flat, but derive their entertainment (and income in many cases) from the gullible who believe them.
2. Fools, who believe and parrot (and support) what the trolls tell them without critically applying their own intellect.
My only question to these people is "Which are you?".
Thanks again, SciManDan, for providing me with this entertainment without my having to give these people support through clicks on their postings!
I think there is a third category, those who are grifting, but are also truly stupid. Those such as Mr Thrive and Survive who claimed that, as the FE Sun took 24 hours to travel round each Tropic, it didn't have to change its speed.
I’m number 1 for sure. People can be so gullible.
Perfect examples of the classic: "I have no idea how things work, so everyone disagreeing with me must be wrong" trope.
"I don't believe that a sun bigger than our sun exists, so earth must be flat!"
... What..?
@@nightmareTomekit makes sense when you think a sun can only be 100 feet in diameter
They're too arrogant to admit they don't understand how a round world works and so cling on to their delusion to save face
The Dunning Kruger effect on full display, lol.
It's not saying that 99% of people see the *Sun* at the same time, it's saying they can see *Sun light* at the same time. This includes the twilight hours before sunrise and after sunset when you can't see the sun but it isn't completely dark either. And remember that it says *99% of people* and not *99% of the Earth's surface.* 2 very different things.
its also at one particular time, the rest of the time much less people see light at once, but cant mention that cause it only makes sense on a globe🤣
And a (thankfully) small part of that 1% remain in the dark on that flat earth 100% of the time.
Flerfs never have been particularly good at paying attention to details. It's their secret superpower to get everything wrong.
"1. Flerf citations always contradict the flerf’s claim. No exceptions."
Plus of course LEO completely ignores the fact that if the Earth was flat, then 100% of the population would be able to see sunlight 100% of the time.
Exactly. When you include the twilight, that (by definition) adds another 18 degrees (2000 km) band of surface beyond the terminator. Not a trivial mistake.
It’s undeniably simple. If you travel in a straight line in any direction on the earth, you will eventually come back to the place where you started without ever encountering an edge. If the Flat Earthers want to prove that it’s flat all they have to do is provide a photo of the edge. Also, they never state where that edge is actually located, and why has nobody ever fallen off the edge?
The edge is obviously the south pole guarded by militaries from different countries, so we can't show you that edge, if we'd try we would most likely get shot.
Because “they” won’t let anybody go to the edge. 😂
@@buruzn09 develop your brain further my friend.
Edit:i agree. I totally didn't misunderstand what you said
@@Heisen_burger-dudego find yours over the “edge”
@@sweetbriarhuslin7371 yummers
LEO: "Get your globe out and test it yourself, it's not gonna happen"
Dan: *gets the globe out and makes it happen*
What an absolutely glorious fail xDDD
McToon demonstrated it on a globe, LEO essentially claimed the Sun could be seen during twilight
How about a demonstration of how this works on the flat earth?
@@WalterBislin Asking a "Demonstrable Realist" to demonstrate "reality?" Surely not.
The yoddling song during that segment was a nice touch
thousands of people just did it
All these years of crazy experiments yet not a single map of flat earth with a scale🤦♂🤡
U haven't looked up world air map
One thing i keep noticing about all these flatties is that they have absolutely no concept of scale and they all think the Sun is a couple of hundred yards away.smh.👍
@@FlatEarth-q1fWorld Air Map, as in the pollution map?
@@FlatEarth-q1f You don't have a flat earth map, champ.
@flatearth7814 Searching for world air map only brings up world air quality maps. Is that what you mean?
My favourite part is that grown adults are wasting listerally their entire lives on proving something that is provably false. That, gives me hope.
Except they are objectively never proving anything beyond their own stupidity or gullibility (or grifting of these)
Most of them aren't trying to prove anything, they're only interested in disproving the "official narrative". They arent interested in knowledge, only in being contrarian.
The bar IS prettty low
@@pepinillorick5741 Yet they still somehow manage to go under it.
I think this is spurred on by the algorithm. they get clicks and that means dollars. Before the internet these idiots would just mumble to themselves and be largely ignored if they tried to strike up a conversation with a random passer-by. Now social media fuels all delusions. The more fringe the better!
I like to use the phrase, "Your inability to grasp science, is not a valid argument against it."
they could just spit it back out at you because they are morons
damn thats a good one
Absolutely beautiful. This is literally the one thing left you can say that guarantees you win a the debate. Then just watch the flat earther melt as they truly can’t grasp the truth 😂
@@Spookybozo Sadly they just say "nuh uh, that applies to you not me, I see the truth" *and then you think about arson.*
Yet again, Nathan Oakley proving that just because you speak loudly, confidently, and quickly doesn't necessarily mean you're correct.
Like Santos's word salad and smug face thinking it makes him a scientist 😂
@@patrickspapens5497 I LOVE Santos. He's absolutely hilarious. That level of clue less, desperately trying to convince people he's an expert at something. I swear he would try it on a rock if he could.
@@Dr-Curious ingot to hand it to you, you're absolutely right about that.
Same goes for all globalists no critical thinking or logic at all
Yet again, Senator Sayjack proving that just because you speak loudly, confidently, and quickly doesn't necessarily mean you're a Senator.
So, let me get this straight. Phuket designs an "experiment", doesn't actually test it first, hits record on the camera, realizes while filming it doesn't work... and yet he STILL puts out the video? 🤣
More people will see it, thanks to Dan.
Lol, I thought the same thing!
Worse than that, he utterly neglects to state what observation would prove the null theory.
They think no one will notice, just like they hope no one noticed the Earth is a globe.
Heh heh, yes.
And the poor thai wife seems like she just wants to escape from this guy... :-)
So, now they're even failing at failing? Delightful! (I come for the science, but I stay for the occasional yodeling.)
Wouldn't that mean they succeed? 😮
I recommend the Dapper Dinosaur channel for yodelling as well as excellent entertainment (YEC debunking)
@@hesiyyn4880 I found Dapper a little while ago. Thanks for reminding me to go back.
@@comsubpac No, it's an obverse/inverse/reverse thing.
I can't really say why. But the yoddling in the segment was a perfect addition
How is this real. They think a table being flat means the earth is flat. That makes no sense on so many levels it hurts my head so much
The water tube technique is used by builders all over Asia. It has nothing to do with the shape of the earth, but it’s useful as a measure of level over the scale of a building
same in europe
and, I believe, pyramids
@@christopherlawley1842 they might have struggled with getting plastic tube, unless the aliens bought it with them :)
@@bob_the_bomb4508Since no one can definitively describe how the pyramids were constructed, alien gifts of plastic tubes is feasible. The fact that there is no evidence of left over plastic tubes proves the aliens returned and cleaned up the construction sites.
and sometime within the past year, someone recounted how in an EXTREMELY long building, they used a water level to lay out a horizontal line on a wall, then checked it with a laser, and the water level line had a measurable arch to it.
If the pacific ocean spans half of the planet… why is it so difficult to understand that 99% of the people can see sunlight at the same time?
Asia , Africa and Europe and you already have 7/8 of worlds population covered , American continents have 1 billion population combined .
Real hard math , takes years to master 🙂
They just gloss over any inconvenient facts that mess their narrative up. Or make up some crazy, contorted reason why the Pacific is either smaller than it is or doesn't exist... This is a realm of make-believe. They're not interrested in facts/reality. And yes, many of them are christians/young earth creationists as well.
I don't see how the two are even related...
And near 90% of the population in the Northern hemisphere.
almost like we have timezones and can exactly see at all times how much of the globe is between morning and evening...
Nathan thinks anyone saying flat in any context is a win, that is essentially what he has been reduced to.
Dave "My table is flat"
Oakley giggling like a teenager who heard someone say "Boobs"
Spot on! 😂 No thoughts left in Nathan's head any more 😊
oh shit, flatbread exists so it must be true!
That’s right little boys and girls. 🐑
It’s FLAT. Don’t forget it.
No curve = not a globe.
Something 71% level/flat water CANNOT POSSIBLY be 29% spherical. Anyone that attended pre-school can verify this fact about shapes.
💥Boom💥
Globe earth disproven and debunked permanently.
P.S. To the NASA employees and shills here each commenting from their 10 different fake alt accounts:
It’s over but let’s talk about it. Send in the best of the best to answer my questions. Let’s go. Who’s the smartest person in this 4 day old Taco Bell under the car seat diarrhea splattered porcelain bowl Aka scimandans propaganda shill page..
I'm sure his wife is also flat 😂
I'm so thankful my brain developed fully, because clearly none of these guys did.
you will question your own sanity if you havnt yet
been there at the psyc hospital many times, still flat earthers are pretty dumb@@jrcather5196
What proof do you have?
@@wookjohnsonsspeedpaints4736 observable reapable and testable
@@jrcather5196…where?
"Why would people be lying about the shape of the earth and distance to the sun/stars?"
"Here's a painting of Jim Carrey and Morgan Freeman!"
Well, that settles that.
And now Jim Carrey and Morgan Freeman are somehow fake people who don't exist
Dan's response about Jim Carrey and Morgan Freeman not existing is the best comeback. Honestly, if you want to fight a flat earther, don't use reason and logic. Use THEIR reason and logic. Use reverse psychology on them like their 8 years old.
You: But Pythagoras and Eratosthenes found the earth was round a long time ago! And here's a picture of the earth!
Flerf: History's a lie! They never existed! That was a later fabrication! Pictures are fake!
Also Flerf: Now here's this book I found or this experiment was done. Here's a picture proving the ice wall or the dome.
You: History is a lie! Those people never existed! It was a fabrication! Pictures are fake!
Or, my favorite:
Flerf: The moon landing was fake!
You: *scoffs* You believe in the moon? 🙄
It only work if you use picture of the Chewbacca.
it does doesn't it?
@@XtreeM_FaiL Why would a Wookiee, an 8-foot-tall Wookiee, want to live on Endor, with a bunch of 2-foot-tall Ewoks? That does not make sense! But more important, you have to ask yourself: What does this have to do with the shape of the earth? Nothing. Ladies and gentlemen, it has nothing to do with the shape! It does not make sense! Look at me. I'm a photographer defending a stupid cult, and I'm talkin' about Chewbacca! Does that make sense? Ladies and gentlemen, I am not making any sense! None of this makes sense! And so you have to remember, when you're debatin' and conjugatin' the Emancipation Proclamation, does it make sense? No! Ladies and gentlemen of this supposed globe, it does not make sense! If Chewbacca lives on Endor, you must acquit! The shape rests. c:
Never thought I'd turn up in a Flat Earth Fail Compilation :D
I always love Nathans circular logic fails with that:
Celestial Navigation is apparently flat Earth elevation angles to stars ....
We can provably use elevation angles to get the angular size of an object and thus work out the distance from top to bottom of it ...
This apparently proves the Earth is flat ...
But then Nathan constantly bangs on that we can't use elevation angles to determine the height to stars because it doesn't work
🤔
I have been reliably told by several flat earthers that the height of the object is never calculated in celestial navigation, so you can just ignore it.
Apparently geometry is something to add to the list of things flat earthers don't understand.
@@FuryPilot That's what makes this all the more amusing - they say you can't calculate the height using elevation angles, then try to argue that a demonstration showing that we can calculate height using elevations proves the Earth is flat ... but that we still can't use that apparent flat Earth proof because it doesn't work with on the stars🤦♂
Then again, I suspect Nathan knows this which is why he constantly pauses and shouts word salad to reset his audience
@@DaveMcKeegan I've been trying to get a flat earther to explain how a bubble sextant gets an elevation angle, as no dip correction is applied and 'the horizontal baseline" is obviously not the surface.
It alternates between crickets and abuse.
@@FuryPilot Funnily enough, this video of mine that Nathan is covering was aimed at him, the 2nd half of my video included a section about dip correction, because Nathan has stated on numerous occasions that you can use a sextant from a plane - meaning your baseline to the horizon isn't horizontal so you have to use dip correction, but then I showed a video from Ion2 where he plotted out the dip corrections from a nautical almanac and unsurprisingly it creates a perfect curve with a radius of 7/6 globe Earth to include refraction
Nathan has only ever publicly addressed the first half of the video ... Seems too scared to try and address the 2nd half 😁
@@DaveMcKeegan Dave McKeegan! Big fan dude! Never fail to catch your videos!
Remember when you were allowed to ignore friction in physics 1 because they didn't want you distracted by additional complications? I think these people took that to mean friction doesn't exist, and similar.
They really do think they are scientists and ignoring the stuff that refutes the belief is ok.
It doesn't get any worse than FEs pretending to science.
My Saypal tis of thee...
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Yup. Just like they take the NASA launch calculations that "ignore" curvature because it just isn't relative to a rocket blasting off of the earth. The only necessary information is the gravitational constant.
as someone currently taking high school freshman physics i agree
"Water ALWAYS finds it level."
Well Phuket, lets close one end of the tube, lift it, and show us what happens with both levels.
If I remember correctly, Dave's example in that video with the bottle wasn't even that we can assume that it's flat for measuring purposes because the curve is so slight. He was literally providing an example of how measuring height using a triangle works. He then went on in that same video to explain that we create a false flat Baseline using what we know about the radius of the Earth. It involves math and calculations more complicated than simply assuming the World is Flat.
His entire video was to demonstrate how we measure height using triangles on a curved surface. And what Nathan Oakley did is cherry pick the moment that he is demonstrating how measurement itself works, and then saying that is Dave's argument.
And he has the balls to claim that Dave is strawmanning. He's such a garbage con man.
It's how they work. It is either outright lies, word salad, cherry-picking, or just straight ignoring anything they don't agree with. Usually some mix of them.
Yeah just a typical con man. Just a loud mouth moron haha
Oakley has some (minor) degree in law. He uses that to"debate" science and scientists like he is arguing a court case Perry Mason-style.
Were you expecting anything else from Nathan, honestly ??
I love that his audience just completely missed him say "I shouldn't have been so fearful of this video"... then when he saw one example of using a "flat" measure, bam! something he can laugh at and continue the con for his audience.
he must have such a sad existence
I've heard the line "water always finds its level" numerous times, but they never explain why they think this happens, or why they think this could have nothing to do with gravity.
How much gravity do you need to keep atlantic ocean down?
@@ekd5213 id take an estimate as round about as much weight as the earth has. cheers
or how that works if the tides are a thing.
@@ekd5213 enough to overcome the gravitational pull of the moon and the centrifugal force of the Earth's rotation -- which is actually not very hard.
Guess they will reason with some "magic" magnetic forces and be happy with it, despite having no proof or evidence - like they always do...
I remember reading about those plastic tubes they used thousands of years ago. So cool he could recreate such technology.
I thought exactly the same thing 🙂
😂
I remember reading about Senator Sayjack in the ninth grade.
I have had a healthy skepticism of “experts” for decades now and I still believe in a globe earth.
I love that LEO loves to use 2 dimensional images to "debunk" 3 dimensional reality. He truly is something special.
If you thought that was crazy you should see what the “smartest” globe earth people regularly present as evidence for their debunked/disproven claim of earth being a wet rock flying and spinning “66600mph x1040mph.” 😂 30x faster than a bullet boys and girls.. only thing is you can’t feel it, see it or measure it in any way. It’s REALLY BADDD. Almost unbelievable that people still believe in all this garbage. 😂
Special meaning "retarded"
One thing in his favour (in this instance) is that he didn't use the word "tosh" every other sentence like he usually does
Yeah, "special Ed".
Lol jokes on you, because recent studies have come out showing that the universe is actually a hologram. It’s on a 2d surface projecting out information into 3d space
That first "level water" is remarkable as he offered no evidence that the water was level. Bizarre to try to do that by measuring to the lawn, as if his garden doesn't have any bumps or slope to it. The experiment assumed that water in a tube will be level, and at the end he declared as proven that assumption, but without proving it.
Funny thing is that the water inside the tube actually is concaved. The sides rise along the tube.
I thought that was so obvious that I must be missing something. Your comment is very reassuring. Thanks! 😅
I thought he was going to say: See- here I have a different result because the ground is uneven. But no.
One side was 24 inches and the other was 23 inches. He proved the Earth is a sphere!! LOL!!
And decided it was good enough to upload and share with the world
When I Level Earth Observer's voice, I think of some sad little kid who was bullied at school and now wants to get back at the world by being insufferable
I am positive "Flat-earthers" were the bullies in school!
That is basically the entire foundation of flat erf
Flat Earthers are such a great source of free entertainment. Actual idiots screeching "Dunning-Kruger!" is beyond hilarious.
same as with you globe tards people thinking your so smart everyone else is dumb🤦
This is why you are still a commodity.
If Dave one day would tell us a story of his car, having a flat tire, Nathan would scream like a child: „flat! There you go! He said flat!“
No nathan would say, the gas pressure will need containment. The globerbwouldnsay, nonitndoesnt, gravity will hold the air on the rim. No tyre required.
@@siman6488what
@@siman6488 i just had a stroke trying to read this...
@@TheAssassinbatosai i think godzilla did and died
Phuket Word basically demonstrated how pressures work with liquids in a tube, and even then he tried to hide the fact that his own experiment was proving him wrong when he measured the 2nd tube. I just love that slight pause when he realized he was screwed but needed to play along.
The concept of 'another take' is unknown to him too.
But the worst part is, for him at least, is that despite it all, he STILL published the video of his own failure...
Just can't make that shit up...
Phuck-It is in a stupid whole class all by himself...
@@captainlengthwidth6692 He doesn't know how to work the delete function and thinks not using the first take is a waste of memory.
Yeah a special needs
This video can be summed up by revealing each of these felrfs inner monologues.
Phuket Word: "Water always finds it's level....within reason."
LEO: "Just deny deny deny."
Nathan Jokely: "Just keep laughing and shouting and people will agree with me."
David Weiss: "Just keep spurting word salad to directly avoid the question I was asked."
Love these compilations Dan. Keep it up.
David Weiss really took the cake at the end there with "So why are they doing this?"/"Well look at these photos!"... a masterclass in fundamentally not having an answer.
Most flat earthers have realised that answering questions is very dangerous for their claims.
I asked a flat earther what was the distance round the Equator. They replied with 24,900 miles.
That was all I needed to show them conclusively the Earth could not be flat.
@@grahvis 😂
@@grahvisguess they have a alternative definition of equators
@@michaelburk9171 .
They can quibble as much as they like, but there is still a circle of about 6,220 miles radius from the North Pole on either globe or flat earth. The difference of course is on a flat earth, that line is about 55% longer than we know it to be.
One of the many things i fail to understand about flat earthers is why do they depict the sun and moon as spherical, but the earth still has to be flat?
Because they are local lights
Flat earth is part of geocentric system. Solar system is a myth, doesn’t exist
If failing was a sport, flerfers would always be on the podium in every category.
😆😆and new podia had to be build, because it got too crowded.
They would be number 2 every year¡
The question was: “why fake it?”
Dave’s answer to the question: “well, people can paint very realistic paintings”.
Thank you for answering something that I’ve never asked, Dave! Hahahaha
That is the question it all falls apart on. He doesn't answer it, because he does not have an answer! There is no reason for anyone to do this at all!
I wanted to scream at him, to answer the dam question...
@@Peroman200I've heard a lot of flat earthers say "to control you" but I feel like it'd be easier to control people by convincing them "space doesn't exist there's nothing out there don't waste your time looking further... Oh and a wizard made everything, it's true because a bunch of dudes took stories written by other dudes and threw them into one book, essentially an ancient version of Grimm's Fairytales is the truth"
@@simplekid4328 Good point, I have heard that too, but I haven't been able to figure out how. The shape of the Earth has in no way impaired my ability to see many problems that exist on it, a lot of them caused by "the establishment" or whatever threat de jour they pin it on.
@@Peroman200 Yep it's never made any sense as a conspiracy, it's harder to maintain the conspiracy than accept 'the truth' and has no benefits whatsoever.
Oh yea we live on a ball
I love that when he holds the two ends of the hose together to show you the water is level and flat, you can clearly see the curvature in the water.
this is sarcastic right?
@@kirubeladamu4760 Not at all. A concave meniscus which disproves what they always say about how "water cant be curved therefore earth is flat."
“Water always finds it level…”
“Right right… Wait. What does that mean?”
“Well it means water always finds its level.”
“Right but what does that MEAN?”
“Um…”
Because water doesn't curve around a ball . Or does it ?
@@aaronmaloney8It does. Because of gravity.
@aperturius . Apparently
@@aperturius they say the 1,000 mph the earth is spinning keeps the water on board lol
Water will always assime the shape of whatever it is inside and the reason it's flat on the surface is due to gravity
The louder Nathan 'flathead' is shouting, the more clearly we know how insane he already went.
The more likely he knows darn well he's full of shit and tries to compensate for it by being forceful and threatening! Typical psychopath!
That's Nathan Slappy Dude Oakley.
I would never generally say someone is ugly, it's mean and can be quite cruel, but in Nathan's case wow I have never seen an uglier person in my life.
I like how on that first video, he decided to do an experiment that required accurate measurements from the ground to the water level, and instead of doing it on a flat surface, he chose to do it on dirt. Hardly a more uneven surface than that.
It's also clear that he thought up the experiment and filmed it, and posted within about 20 minutes. No testing beforehand to be certain of his result. No take 2. Just "Hey I have an idea...hey, that's odd...we'll call it a win!!"
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He also gets 2 different measurements and just goes yep that's level.
i wonder if the 1st guy's "camera assistant" thinks he's an idiot and just doesn't say anything
I guess that he doesn't speak English haha
it is probably his thai girlfriend and as long as he is supporting her she's fine with his bullshit
That is his Thai child victim
When every city in the world disappears past the horizon after roughly 15 miles is undeniable. The fact that the conversation is still existing is proof that some people are truly unsavable.
😂😂 Nathan Oakley accusing someone else of Dunning-Kruger...😂😂
Looking at Phuket Word's setup, I'd say his two tubes were about 2 metres apart. Based on that, the deviation of the curve of the Earth from a straight line halfway between the two would be about 80 nanometres. A bit tricky to see by eye, especially when his marker pen makes a line about 5 mm thick!
First rule of applied engineering: measure with a micrometer screw, mark with chalk, cut with an ax ;)
"about 80 nanometres" ... hey, that's about 250 molecules of H2O high, that *must* be visible ;)
@@hartmutholzgraefe Yeah, it'd be towerin', innit...:)
And remember to adjust for the difference in air pressure between the two ends😂
Actually, they would, in principle, be exactly the same height. But if you had 3 connected tubes - well, they'd still all be the same height - but a dead straight line across each end level would reveal the middle one a bit higher. But you would have to do that over a great distance to get a difference you could measure ; not across someone's back yard.
"Your channel makes no sense to me, and yet it exists." 😂 Loved that!
I love the "debunk" of Dave. It relies on them not playing the rest of the video where he talks about surveying equipment and curve.
Yeah, it was total cherry-picking. I saw Dave’s video. He was talking about solving for curvature when measuring the distance to an astrological body. The part they used was just a primer of how you can use geometry to find the height of something.
If Weiss is the FE logic-vegetable, Oakhead is the ranting intellectual caward.
In fairness, it's very consistent with Flat Earth ideology: "Ignore the bits I can't understand or refute, misrepresent the rest"
@@goldenageofdinosaurs7192 *astronomical
Please do not confuse the two. One is study of objects in the sky, the other is just BS.
It just occurred to me that using a really big lake is a good way to prove the earths curvature and I actually have video proof from the 90s. We used to go to a place called Lake Cumberland in Kentucky and there is a part of it where its about 10 miles of visible water to the dam. It's pretty cool to watch the dam literally show more of itself as you get closer to it. This is a hard thing to explain on a flat earth.
Lake Cumberland is beautiful!!
@@SolidSiren Yes it sure is! You should look up all the things that they had to do with the dam, they spent half a billion in repairs because it used to be the most in risk of failure in the United States. It's pretty interesting to anyone that has been there, lots of great childhood memories come flooding back in when I did it. I've only been there once as an adult but it was still really fun.
@@SolidSiren I am going back there in the next year or so to spread my father's ashes, that was his favorite place in the entire world. Nice to meet a fellow Lake Cumberland enthusiast!
@@DeathBYDesign666 Sorry to say, but IF your video was shot in the 15th century, the flat earther would believe it. You know, in their minds science was better 500 years ago. Or so... Rgr
@@borano2031 Yes I am aware of that! It still doesn't mean they could make a coherent argument from it.
Nathan Oakley talking about the perfect example for Dunning Kruger is just hilarious. 😂
I mean Nathan could be the original specimen that this tests where running with. 🤣
Yes, my thoughts exactly. They all sounded like a Dunning-Kruger club when laughing at something they could not even start to understand.
He's like so many anti-intellectuals, whenever some criticism is leveled at him he just repeats it back without understanding, context, correctness....it's the epitome of kindergarten "i'm rubber you're glue whatever you say bounces of me and sticks to you!" style of argument. Why come up with a functioning map / model, when he can just squawk "DUNNING KRUGER" and strut away like a pigeon shitting on a chessboard.
I think Mr Oakley just learned a new phrase and wants to use it to sound smart.
@@mallninja9805 "Anti-intellectual" makes him sound multiple order of magnitude too smart, in my opinion. His intelligence is closer to the level of a parrot.
When the girl started poking around I expected her to say "there's some lovely filth over here" monty python style
As much as I appreciate your efforts, good sir, the fact that the flat earth argument is still being made is just hard proof humanity doesn't deserve this precious spherical paradise of a planet.
Beautiful.
Humans are like virus.
He does realise level and flat aren't the same thing, doesn't he?
no
Nope
Flerfers never realise that.
His head would melt if it dawned on him.
Flat earthers (and the _demonstrable realist_ ) never do.
fun fact: water does NOT always find its level, it purely depends of pressure
I like the way Planarwalk summed it up: "water perfectly conforms to the forces acting on it."
Which, iirc, is the definition of a fluid, overall (with the distinction between liquid and gas being whether it has a fixed volume).
I like how Nathan didn't show the rest of Dave's video where he went onto explain how to do the same measurement with a curved surface.
Nathan _lied_ about something?
Oh still my beating heart, how will I ever deal with the not surprise?
The real reason aliens don't visit Earth is not the distance (though that can be daunting) but the fact we still have people like Oakley, Weiss, LEO, and Puket hanging about!
And billions of religious fanatics who believe in fairytale bullshig.
I assure you we HAVE visited your planet to determine why you humans are so incredibly odd.
@@protoborg I for one welcome our new alien overlords.
Earth: Mostly harmless...🖖
I had a vision of a version on the Smash advert where the aliens are rolling around laughing because there are a bunch of people who think the earth is flat.
Dave McKeegan: "My table is flat"
Oakley chuckling like a teenager who just heard someone say "Boobs"
The first one floored me. I don’t even need to see the rest of the video. Dude said don’t let anyone tell you the earth is curved even if they give you an exact radius can calculate its size and curvature, just trust our little science experiment here that demonstrates pascals law and has nothing to do with earths shape
17:49: addition to what Dan said: and just because hyperrealistic paintings exist, doesn’t mean all pictures are painted!
But Weiss has literally zero logic skills. Remember he found an old lady to tell us that 50 years ago everyone was taught the earth was flat in school? It was true because Ruth said so. That's really what he thought. He looked so proud to be using an adolescent-level fallacy.
Being so wrong but at the same time showing confidence that you are right has a name. Ah yeah. Dunning-Kruger.
DITRH also completely avoided the last question. He was asked "Why?" and he said "Here look, it is fake". That is NOT an answer... because he doesn't have an answer.
Most people might have also noted how he did not give a distance to the sun. He obviously doesn't want to agree to the flat earth society, which gave 47 miles as a number and he doesn't believe in the 150.000.000 km, but how far away exactly is the sun? He knows that if he gives you a number this number can be proven wrong, so he doesn't provide a number.
He never answers any question and just changes the subject with the first sentence.
Well in the next level he an others talk about "hiding God" as the reason. I would like to ask him why an ordained priest, a lifelong devoted Christian, would want to hide God. The person is a childhood friend of my ex wife, and was prime minister of Norway for 8 years, and financing ESA.
Also my astronomy professor at University, one of Norway's top scientists on the sun at the time, told us that he was Christian. Would love to have seen him crush Dirt in a debate.
@@Eirran2it’s not even a question as to who could hide God but a question of how in the world could you hide a being that is far beyond any human understanding/comprehension living outside of time and space with unlimited powers?
The same God these people say can be hidden is the same God that says let there be light?
How in the hell could you even attempt to hide a God 😂
I feel dumber for watching this. You’re channel is brilliant. I can’t believe these people exist, and that you have a whole channel to rebut this. Big up!
I was blocked by Phuket on Twitter about a year ago for just simply making sense. He didn't like it when I asked him to take a telescope and photograph a west coast skyline. Lol. Never ceases to amaze me how they cannot think on larger scales other than their own back yard...🤦
A handful of neurons only go so far before glitching.
Nothing like some headache inducing flat earth videos on a Friday
There's nothing like a well controlled experiment, and that was nothing like one. Well done Phuket, what you really need is to measure the distance at the top and bottom of your canes - though they will need to be a lot further apart and considerably taller (like the towers of the Humber bridge, for instance). Edit: 17:09 Nice bait and switch Dave, the question was *why.*
At those distances, you would probably also have to account for atmposheric pressure differences
@@ichbrauchmehrkaffee5785 Certainly would, it affects atmospheric refraction. Luckily for us, surveyors know their job 😄
Nothing like a well controlled experiment. 😂😂😂😂😂
What do you mean? He did a real good job of proving that two points make a line!
"Why would they go to such lengths to pretend the earth is round?"
"Heres some paintings of celebrities"
Um.. what? 😂
That tube experiment. How exactly do you measure a curve with only two points? You can’t. You need at least three points of measurement to determine a curve.
Have you seen his three lighter trick? He wanted to show that a distant object, higher than two others of the same height, could appear to be lower on a flat earth.
He put three lighters in a line and lined up the camera along the top, showing them to line up.
Then he put the last one on a book, removed the middle one and lowered the camera below the top of the first one, so it appeared to be higher than the one on the book.
@@grahvis Wow…
DITRH spending 5 minutes avoiding the simple question "how far away do you think the sun is?".
Huyghens did a simple brightness comparison of the Sun through different sized pinholes and Sirius to estimate the latters distance as just under half a lightyear but that assumed Sirius had the same luminosity as the Sun plus the method relied on memory as they couldn't be compared side by side. Gregory used Jupiter instead which gave 1.3 light years, which if corrected for the lumnosity of Sirius at 25.4 that of the Sun gives 6.6 lightyears, not bad when the actual value at 8.6 !
Right? Because if he gives an answer, he has to prove it!
Phuket Word discovers highschool Physics, adorable!
Randomly got recommended this,on my way to check the playlist, that's hilarious
“So why are they doing this? What’s the point?” “Look at these photos. One is a painting?” Sure, but that doesn’t answer his question now does it?
The fact that the backyard isn't exactly flat and the water level were different heights kinda demonstrates how a curved earth works.
If the sticks were 12 miles apart you would only see one of them!!!!
That and that dirt in a garden isn’t exactly the most level surface to make such an experiment on 😂
Senator Sayjack.
You dont measure that much curve in the distance.....
You know we failed as a species when people get dumber over time, instead of going up (or at least staying grounded)
Welfare works against survival of the fittest.
He’s not dumb. He’s awake from the slumber
@@Daily-55devotion He's not just asleep. He's having a fevered dream.
That backyard is a mess…😢😢 it’s a pity he could have a proper kitchen garden there…
You notice that Dave Weiss never answered the interviewer's question as to how far away flat earthers think the sun is. I had a week long back and forth with this clown emailing him and that's exactly what he does. I repeatedly kept asking him "If Antarctica isn't going around us does that not COMPLETELY destroy the entire flat earth movement?" and he refused to ever answer the question. He will never answer a question that pins him into a corner where it can be falsified and destroy his little flat earth fantasy.
He also totally deflected when asked "Why are "they" doing this? What's the point?" and the interviewer just... let him ramble.
He is a charlatan that only knows gish gallop.
He’d make a good politician 😂
@@ArawnNoxYes! I've been searching the comments, I knew I couldn't be the only one who noticed.
Yes, when asked if the sun was 37 miles away he answered with"well that's closer than 93 million miles which is ridiculous " 😂😂😂
What a cognitively biased fallacy generator he is 😮
Phuket Word has gone from drinking the Kool-Aid to filling rubber hoses with it. I feel sorry for his neighbours.
Will travel to Thailand in the next few months.
I will make sure to avoid the city of Phuket...
@@jocec3283 Just remember, when you're on that plane they're fooling you.
The pilot is really flying around in circles to make it seem like like a long flight on a curved globe. They're all in on it!
7:45 I never stop being amazed at how something so vital as scale is ENTIRELY ignored by these people...
I love how, no matter how many thousands of times you tell a flerf "Level doesn't mean flat" they just absolutely can not let those words cross into their incredibly thick skulls.
Their ears will funnel the soundwaves. Their eyes may see your mouth say them. Their eardrum may vibrate to send the signal in for processing.
But somehow, somewhere along the way. A little guard stops the signal, reads it, and says, "Nope, we can't allow this in. It's not structurally sound enough in there. We try and put this in place and the whole thing may come crashing down."
that little guard is their stupidity
I can imagine Nathan jumping up and down while pointing at the screen, yelling "See, see! He used the word 'flat'! That proves flat earth!" like the child he is.
Dear, oh dear...
He's really grasping at straws now
I'm not going to lie, when I first heard this as an example of flat earth and the canal they all like to use as their example and water etc to find the earth is flat, it took me about 3 seconds to figure out the flaws in it. Clearly his 3 seconds is longer on a flat earth than mine.
Watching Pat roll his eyes at Dave like every 10 seconds was great lol
So we live in a world of planes, drones, and cameras. Yet noone has seen the edge of tbis flat earth?
Except apparently NASA, Freemasons, or (in _really_ advanced stages of conspiracy brainrot) Jews.
We live in a world where if a piece of space junk lands on your property you can sue NASA, and yet there are people who believe we can't reach space.
Thank you Dan,
Your videos always make my tuesday and friday a good one
I really, really wish they'd stop saying water is trying to find its level. Water really HATES it when you anthropomorphise it!
Phuket manages the worst demonstration of his chosen subject since the weird gate experiment. Outstanding 😅
I was thinking about The Gate experiment too while trying to watch Phuket through the massive cringe 😂
Hey Dan, I have a question. If there is such a huge following of flat Earth folks, why don't they come together and pool money together to take a trip to space with one of the shuttles? They can choose a person that they feel is reputable in their Flat community.
When the chosen one comes back to earth and tells them it's a globe, flat earthers will at that moment realize all this time the chosen one was actually an actor planted by the globe plotters
@SB4F lmao, no kidding right? Sounds helpless. Easy Observation is: Everything outside of Earth is a globe except us? I don't know how they would answer that one. Probably, " All flat disks planets face earth at the right angle, that's why, duh! " lol. Guess it doesn't matter what logic is thrown at them, let alone science.
Because Bob once said, that even if we could get to space, we would see the earth as round because our eyes are round. I'm not joking. It wouldn't matter to them
OMG!! I saw Dave McKeegan's video that those guys are mocking. AFTER showing triangulation on a flat surface he then goes on to show how it works on a globe. These guys skipped most of his video just to make him look bad. That's about as dishonest as it gets.
Flat-earthers being dishonest ??
Who would have thought ???
🤔🤔🤔🤔
I was hoping PW was going to flood his garden with water to show 'level'.
With red coloured water😂
would've been more convincing - - -
The table is flat, that means the Earth is flat...🤦♀️
How could I live without these series!!! Where did you find all these gems? Absolutely hilarious!
This is as hilarious as the photos from the moon landing. I mean different light sources are causing different shadows. How many suns are there again? Dumb flat earthers.
4:09 and if he had capped that end, the water wouldn’t have been able to “find its level”
Maybe if he'd put bungs in each end of his tube, then moved them up & down, he would have freaked out totally. ( Or just not posted the video ). When both ends are open to the atmosphere, they are at the same atmospheric pressure above the 2 menisci [ assuming that they are geographically close ]. THAT's why they are at the same height. Using the surface of his 'garden' as the datum for his height measurements always looked like a dumb idea, especially when he never provided any evidence that he thought THAT was 'flat'. Lifting up one end of the tube means that he is pushing the same volume of water into a smaller volume of tube. Inevitably some will spill out, & I personally would be shocked & amazed if it spilled out of the higher end.
He talks about separating the tube ends by " hundreds of miles", which opens the possibility of having different atmospheric pressure at each location. How is he going to establish his measuring datum to record that the heights in the tube are exactly the same then?
@@chassetterfield9559 I'd love to think he'd have still posted the video of a tube with a bung in each end and said 'there, they are still the same level, erm.... more or less. Well, thereabouts'. As someone else has commented, a second take seems not to be an option to people like Phuket
6:42 99% of people does not mean 99% of the Earth's surface, hope this helps any confused flat earthers out there
Other than the great debunks, I will be a little cheeky with our man Dan and say that joking about using inches when using miles yourself makes me smile, but it's all in good fun.
Great video as always !
I like sae measurements, and dislike metric. Metric isn't used by good mountain people trained in school to use sae measurements.
I just ask one question that "flerfs" cannot answer.
"if the earth is falt, then please explain how the sun doesn't set during the summer months of the North, then the south poles, yet goes overhead at the equator every single day?"
Easily explained with a spherical earth model.
1) Phuket Word was nearly an inch passed "level" and he still published it as proof! 😂
2) Yes, Leo. When the entire Pacific Ocean is in nighttime, 99% of the world's population will experience daylight. How many people do you think live in the entire Pacific Ocean Leo? It covers nearly half the water mass even on a flat map.
3) Nathan, I'm standing on the beach in São Pedro de Moel in Portugal looking due west. At exactly this latitude of 39º 45' N and within 3" of where I'm standing sits the Barnaget Lighthouse on the northern tip of Long Island, New Jersey at 52m above sea level across the Atlantic Ocean. If the Earth is flat, you should have no trouble taking a picture of it what with the sea being level and all. Go for it and shut us all up once and for all. I'd even accept a picture of its roof.
4) DITRH, he asked you why they wouldn't tell you about flat earth and then you brought in trick paintings, distracting the interviewer from the fact that you completely rejected his question and answered your own. Lacking in confidence in your own theory? Dear oh dear.
Standard gishgallop. Never answer any questions and just jump from topic to topic.
Dan:
2:46 ridicules PW for using inches
Also Dan:
7:59 uses miles without blinking.
Dear, oh dear.
Scratch one for Dan.
Yep. Important stuff.
The part with Nathan Oakley and the triangles was one of the embarrassing situations I've ever had to witness... 💀
I actually got into the flat earth thing for about a year or so, and I really did start to believe it!
But then I stopped smoking meth...
True story lol fr 😂
Your channel doesn’t make sense to me, yet it exists . Lol. Laugh out loud in real life with this one. Perfect!
The sheer level of offense at the use of inches. "INCHES!?"