For those that didn't noticed there is a curiosity about Salamangreat Raging Phoenix that is the fact it is a combination of Pyro Phoenix and Fire Phoenix @Ignister
I wish the link 4 treated itself as Pyro Phoenix while on field. So, u only have to run 1 of this and Pyro Phoenix and still trigger both their reincarnated effects Aside from the main deck monsters introduced, the rest is generic fire support and greatly helps archetypes laval, flamvell, volcanics, and jurracs for example
As another comment pointed out that I will say here, the new spell card for Salamangreat ironically works better with another architype from the same packs, that being Volcanics being able to shuffle back cards like Scattershot or even Rimfire back into your deck, so I guess I'm adding that to my Volcanic deck instead of my Salamangreat deck.
I'm glad that Salamangreat are getting tuners. This means now you can also play the OTHER HORSE (Horse Prince) to summon your Gazelle or something else from the deck FOR FREE. Look at my horse, my horse is amazing! The spell/traps clearly look like they're generic support for other fire decks more than for Salamangreat. Charge will be better for Volcanics because it just recycles the stuff you banished for Emperor (or the Scattershots you dumped to raigeki). The other trap card, idk yet, probably more useful somewhere else though.
Kinda wished the new Phoenix had the increasingly illusive "Always treated as" clause with Pyro Phoenix, which would have made for some pretty interesting play lines.
You can use Teeger to get into either Savage or Baron which is pretty cool. The link 4 seems pretty good, but having to invest so much material into it is unfortunate. Being able to search Will and activate what is essentially a soul charge is hilarious though. At least with the new support Salads end board of a nibiru token will be a lot beefier and harder to get over.
Unfortunately when you use teeger to go into one of those you won't be able to use miragestallio or your negate goes offline and you still lose to nib... And summoning one of them will also require your ns so unless you open like the craziest 5 card hand you are not extending past that
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Quick word salad analysis based on first look : Salamangreat Weesel: Pretty fair summoning requirement especially in prolonged game so unlikely to act as a brick. The second effect is especially interesting as it lets you block major blowout cards like Gamma/Lightning Storm/Evenly Matched on top of Kashtira's and also nets you +1 in process so definitely a unit for deck. I suppose best target to currently SS for opponent would be Falco so you could always reset Salamangreat spell/trap from gy when it leaves opponents field. Also always wanted to have Salamangreat tuner for Lavalval Salamander as it can draw you 2 for potentially no drawback if you got cards you want to dump anyway and extra face-down flip can also come up. Salamangreat Teeger: Discarding a card for its SS is acceptable in this deck but only in case if the effect makes up for its discard effect to SS it. Level 5 feels like a big miss here as it should have been just level 4 with same modulation effect so that you could firstly just normal summon it when needed and go for either the new synchro or actually have another material for Miragestallio. You could technically turn this into level 4 to go with any level 3 Salamangreat and make Lavalval Salamander for extra draws and then use Wheesel to go into Baroness or you could just level it up to 6 and use Jaguar/Mathmech to make Baroness but whether that's worth the investment/space is up to you. Salamangreat Raging Phoenix: The expected cover link Salamangreat which im not sure if you could call a boss monster as i really wanted the deck to have an in themed strong finisher that could replace the need to go into Accesscode. Even though it searches you any Salamangreat card which is great in its own regard, i would have much preferred if it were actually link-5 with more powerful effects and searched you a card on just initial link summon leaving your reincarnation summon for Sunlight Wolf. The gy effect can definitely come up to either act as a beater or potentially save you from otk by acting like high attack Gorz but i feel like they should have let it pop a monster when summoned from gy and then add that monsters attack instead which would also give the new cards that SS from gy much more value and much needed extra monster interaction during either turn. Overall would still play it just for the search but for such high link rating monster which takes your main gimmick and especially advertises the product on the cover it definitely leaves a bit more to be desired. Salamangreat Burst Gryphon: Was honestly looking forward the new synchro the most as it was pretty clear that were finally getting one to complete all extra deck mechanics and cant say im quite pleased as it feels like its meant much more for other fire decks in general rather than Salamangreats. The level 8 kinda feels too steep for the deck as unless you're using Teeger you have no real consistent ways of making it and payoff just isn't there as only considerable target would probably be Gazelle which you probably have already used anyway. And reincarnation synchro effect doesn't feel too viable either as you literally have 0 in themed targets that interact with opponent in any way on their turn unless you maybe use Transcendence. You could dump Inferno Statue with Fire Ejection to reborn it on opponents turn but whether all that is even worth it is another matter. Making it off of Gamma would probably be only way i would even consider running and even then that's 2 more spaces in already super tight extra deck. Overall it feels like they're signaling incoming Fire King support with that 2nd effect. Salamangreat Charge: Pretty neat support piece for a change as you can either recover your materials which felt much needed sometimes when you are out of things like Spinny's or Balelynxe's and reborn something for link climbing at the same time. It being a quick play spell also makes 2nd effect much more appealing as it can act as a potential interaction during either turn. Now the biggest use i see here is still leaving reincarnation link summon for Sunlight Wolf and then climbing up to Raging Phoenix through Heatleo which you can immediately revive and hard make another Raging Phoenix which would meet the condition for search effect and leave you with potential pop 4 with Rage assuming you already acquired the Roar with Sunlight Wolf. For now its at least a 2 of for me and would even consider it as 3 of if there happens to be a consistent way of modulating attack during either turn as i wouldn't be afraid of opening multiples if i can use it as interruption next turn too. Also goes really hard in Volcanics to pitch your Scattershots and bring back Rimfire. Salamangreat Revive: As far as Salamangreats are concerned the artwork is probably as much as it goes for this card in a deck that already reborns a ton and has no real in-themed interactions or effects from any of their gy summons so maybe last reveal will change this cards viability. It has one little application to recover something and change attack of your monster to make Charge pop live immediately during any moment so there could be a world where you could run this at 1. If anything you can now actually get some payoff from Circle of Fire Kings as you can pop a fire monster to bring back something else alongside Raging Phoenix which will bring itself back upon destruction thus perhaps making it easier for you to achieve double reincarnation summon for Sunlight Wolf and Raging Phoenix. Overall at least half of these cards are viable enough to run at few copies as they do plus you in few ways and at the very least strengthen the control aspect of this deck with extra card advantage which is this decks strongest side and its still too early to give a final verdict to all these cards as there is 1 more reveal left which might completely change our outlook on some of them. The way they are trying to push these reborns feels like we might get a much needed interaction on summon from the last main deck monster or even an effect that greatly stuns the opponent which would kind of fit this decks playstyle and make all these reborn effects more viable. Deck has already been competent enough and we knew that getting 7 cards and every single of them being really good was too much to ask for a playable enough deck so if at least half of this is useful then its a still a win for players ツ
From my perspective there are only a few things that I would consider a significant buff: 1) a way to get through nibiru, these cards kind of help, but a think nibiru will still result in a nothing board. 2) a stronger turn 1 end board. I don’t think this will raise the ceiling above the current 1 rank 4, 2 traps, heatsoul ceiling. 3) a way to reincarnation summon more or on opponents turn (not the current trash qp spell though). As you said, I see some applications for some of the cards, but the synchro and the traps are straight no. I am hoping for a retrain of the field spell that is still treated as sanctuary that lets either let’s you reincarnation summon more than once a turn (so you can trigger wolf and either leo or phoenix on the same turn) or as a quick effect (so you can trigger old phoenix on opponents turn). Other than that my hopes would be a better synchro (level 6 or 7 since you can reliably summon that) or an actually useful rank 4.
@@StikeForce2013 Dont think i will have any application for synchro as i dont want to reduce this deck to another Barrier Statue.dek nor there is any point in making it in Salamangreats if all you are going to do is revive something which can be done in easier ways and the trap is just way too slow and has no real payoff right now to revive anything on opponents turn + i realized that Heatsoul increases attack anytime it points to something so that`s all you need to make Charge live. As for extra Re-Link summon, Formud Skipper actually brings in good value as it can use itself to chain block Sanctuary search which is much more valuable now and also search either Teeger or Exceed for Alembertian combo which is probably as good as it gets for R4 in this deck or just link climb up to Heatsoul->Raging Phoenix. Not sure if i would want to invest in Baroness but will definitely try out Lavalval Salamander as its not just +2 but also free dumps in a deck that wants half of their cards in gy and you can still make Baroness through it if you can revive Wheesel.
All in all i dont think this support is bad at all as this is more of a fire support in general and might push Salamangreats in new directions that haven`t been explored before. Just wish the link was more of a boss monster that had any kind of interaction during either turn so i could drop Accesscode which would give deck more identity. Will probably also still continue using Pyro Phoenix as Black Roseing opponents entire field in some scenarios can be far more beneficial than 1 search and it actually does come up for me way more often than some people give it credit for. And its also agreeable that a card or effect that allows you to Re-Link summon during either turn would be the best support this deck could get based on what it already does so high hopes for the last reveal which just might have this kind of a quick play effect or something spicy on summon.
Interesting the Salamangreat Synchro is a Gryphon (reminds me of Windy using avian monsters like Griffins, as well as being defeated by the Synchro Monster of Revolver). And I never noticed this until the reveal of Burst Gryphon, but a lot of the Salamangreat monsters that are Special Summoned are somewhat creatures of flight: Burst Gryphon, Emerald Eagle, Blaze Dragon (Miragestallio has flame wings & Violet Chimera has somewhat of flaming wing-blades;), and Pyro & Raging Phoenix {and Heatleo sorta has like wing-like armor}
This is quite literally the only correct opinion i've seen on the new support. So many people calling the link 4 and the 2 main deck monsters bad LMAO.
They aren't bad, but they aren't very good either. It's unfortunate the Link-4 wasn't a Zealantis-like, only requiring 1+ fire effect monsters so you can still re-link sunlight wolf. The extra deck is so tight that fitting 2 mid Link 4's is going to be very hard.
@@monkfishy6348 Is it *really* that hard though. The only mandatory SG stuff you run is Wolf, Baelynx and afaik heatleo sometimes (hell idek if people run that anymore) You have your accesscode line which takes 3. I feel like there's gotta be SOME space to fit 2 of them in, because from what i've seen the boards you can make with it are way better than before. And even if we ignore the Link 4 there's no real reason to not run the main decks at least at 1. Weesal is live the minute you do your basic line and Teeger can allow for synchro plays (like Baronne)
2 wolf is enough lol and with 3 bale thats only 5 for the ed. 1 mirage and 2 new phoenix thats 8. Transcode, splash mage, accescode, heatsoul, and update thats 13. You still have 2 flex. Its not that tight.
@@justamuart why 3 Baelynx tho? We can now just about infinitely recycle the card even when it's banished. We can lower it to 2, maybe even 1 if you consider the new cards more valuable in a sense or thought
- Wheesel is nice, level 3 that can special summon itself rather easily, and works well with Fusion of fire as said, altho not the best play imo. I think the best way to go about it would be to summon Sunlight Wolf, summon a salad with Wheesel's effect to Wolf's up arrow to trigger its effect to recycle and draw you a card, and then use Mirage's floating effect to bounce back the summoned monster to your hand. That way you recycle two monsters and draw you a card, instead of just recycling one with the regular Jaguar revive. Also bonus points for just being very cute - Teeger's summoning is even better i would say, no need for prior setup and sets up your future plays by discarding stuff like Foxy, Spinny or Jaguar, while also triggering Gazelle. The fact that it can modulate its level to level 6 is nice as it means you can make Baronne de Fleur with Salamangreat now, you just need a level 4 to go along, most likely Jaguar. You can also just reduce its level to 4 to facilitate Bagooska plays. It can also be searched with Formud Skipper since it's a level 5, which is a cute tech. Also a pretty good card imo - Burst Gryphon is uuuh, not very good. At least in Salads. It's easy to make, and then easy to "reincarnate" with its first effect but the payoff is mediocre, not only do you get locked into fire for the rest of the turn but when it comes to Salamangreat itself you don't really have any target that's worth the investment imo. Unless you somehow manage to get the fire Barrier Statue in the GY ? Considering there's not restriction on the monster you can summon with this effect, i'm sure people will find ways to abuse this card. Now i can definitely see it being played in other fire decks, generic materials, and it's not restricted to Salad monsters on both of its revival effects. Soo maybe in decks like Laval, Fire Fist, etc ? I'm not very knowledgeable on fire synchro decks - Raging Phoenix is okay, being able to search any Salad card is great. I do wish its link rating was lower, like maybe a Link 3 but at the same time, with the number of extenders Salad has, summoning this card shouldn't be too hard either. Now yes, you need to reincarnate this card to get the search and considering it's only once per turn with Sanctuary, you have to pass on the Sunlight Wolf reincarnation. But is that an issue ? If you want your Rage so badly, you can just search it with this card and pop up to 4 cards during your opponent's turn, and as of Roar, it can set itself from the GY when you reincarnate anyway. Another amazing search with this card would be Will, as it could allow you to special summon up to 4 Salads by targeting Raging, which is huge. You could then just hard reincarnate Wolf and get your trap recycling anyway like you wanted. I think it's alright, altho i definitely would have preferred to get an actual boss monster, not a oversized searcher with a slow and mediocre ATK boost effect - Charge is okay, ig ? Being able to recycle your links and banished cards like Spinny and Bale is nice, but as pointed, this card is overall a worse Will when it comes to the revival effect. The other effect to pop a card is okay, Rage is overall better since it does more while not requiring as much setup making the card a bit irrelevant, but since it's not restricted to Salad monsters you can use it with Heatsoul for example if you end on the Heatsoul + Transcode board which is nice. Other than that, it's a pretty mediocre card imo. At least in Salads, because when it comes to other decks like Volcanics, this card is pretty good, revives from the GY while recycling your "ammo" after it was banished to summon Emperor or negate with Inferno, that's cool, and i'm sure it can see use in other fire decks. Just like Burst Gryphon, it's good in anything except the deck it's meant to be for, sad - Revive i think is the worst card, again, worst than Will and Charge as a revival, so you're better off pitching it with Gazelle but then again, that's only "good" going second. Ig it does give you more OTK potential while recycling a card but let's be real, you're better off just going into Accesscode using Update Jammer. Oh and yes, it enables Charge's pop effect but again, a lot of set up when you can just use Rage. All in all, i think the support is decent, at least when it comes to the monsters, well apart from Burst Gryphon. Opening Salads to Synchros definitely gives new opportunities to the strategy which i think is cool. The S/Ts on the other hand are just very underwhelming to me, they feel like worse versions of cards we already have. Now i really hope the last card they announce is good, hopefully it's an actual boss monster with protection or disruption, and i also hope they release Gazelle in the upcoming banlist (come on Konami it's not 2019 anymore, just release the fucking thing. Oh and Harp Horror and Knightmare Mermaid too, i think Orcust also deserves to be freed, both decks got mad powercrept). If they do, along with this support, maybe we can see Salad return as a decent rogue deck
If the new phoenix had an effect like "this cards name is treated as pyro phoenix on field and in the graveyard", maybe a tech of using salamangreat transcendence and 1 copy of pyro phoenix wouldve been a thing, but alas.
For me the only good things to come from this support are the level 3 special summon from hand/GY and Raging Phoenix being able to add any Salamangreat card to your hand. However, needing to make a Link 4 and relink it to add a Salamangreat card is just asking for alot. Salamangreat should always be able to play around with their deck without going through too much effort. And Raging Phoenix is a bit too much if you ask me. They applied the design of all other cyberse decks (wich is special summon, special summon, special summon and special summon) to Salamangreat. Wich was never its design to begin with and keeps on asking to lose to Nibiru.
Finally a new salamangreat support cards while not what I have in mind about either retrained or variant of pyro Phoenix ATK or effect but his design look cool and neat and having synchro monster is bonus
I remember when yubel support was talked about getting support out, the thing that's crazy to me is even without this support salamangreat great is still competitive.
I'm probably the odd one in the group but i feel like Raging Phenix is fine for what it its, to me its basically a once per turn Blocker that will revive itself each time a monster dies basically
Wow we're getting a salamangreat synchro monster that's sick. And here my name wasn't use for it I was thinking it would of been called salamangreat illusion tiger
@@Deathmare235 Yes, they left the card 0001, which is a monster taking into account its code. And the f*, it should copy names by just revealing the monster in your extra deck, like a Fromud Skipper but just for Salads.
For once, I am glad the best existing archetype in the box got the most mid support. I know they don't care about balance overall, but its nice when they make it seem like they do.
Back to Salamediocre, I see Personally, Pyro Phoenix > Raging Phoenix. Blowing up your opponent's board is fun and you can reuse it's effect every turn. Raging searches (how original) and comes back, I guess, but it's just so plain and basic.
Question. So if someone has 2 salamangreat raging phoenix. 1 in the graveyard and the other on the field with the help of 'salamangreat sanctuary'. Then if your opponent destroy raging phoenix on the field. Can you special summon the other raging phoenix from the graveyard with 5600 atk? And if it's destroyed again, then do the same with the other ragin phoenix from the graveyard with 5600 atk?
Nice Steven he reference. Don't know why they made monsters for other summoning mechanic(besides xyz) cause it's just garbage and they do it on purpose wasting paper, cause sanctuary don't synergize with them. *BUNCHA BALLWASHIN' BASTERDS...*
@@autobotstarscream765 no? What fire monsters are you summoning outside of add/sub in mathmech. After you establish wolf/barrier you can do literally everything else you need for salad.
Given the value of these cards, I think Konami only 'supported' Salamangreat because they couldn't ignore what is arguably the most popular fire based archetype in a fire based pack. They want Salamangreat to die which is also supported by the fact that the deck hasn't had any support throughout series 11.
@@Saixjacket 😆 If its true that I'm 'buggin' and I don't know what I'm talking about, then you should explain why the deck didn't get support since Eternity Code (2020). Following that, there's been a whole series of products and Salamangreat is one of the very few VRAINS archetypes that didn't get any support in series 11 despite it's popularity. The power creep in the last year has been immense and the support these new cards offer to Salamangreat is minimal and insufficient for it to regain the competitive position it used to have hence Konami effectively killing it. You have no idea whether Konami plan to release future support 'within a year' and given their reluctantance to support it I'd doubt we'll see a solid wave of support any time soon (hopefully we get a 'one-off' which seems to be the trend with anime decks in general).
@@kauanjos3199 I would like to agree with you but the fact is that this is the first wave of support Salamangreat has had in over 3 years and is underwhelming at best. Within that 3+ year span, other VRAINS archetypes have had multiple support waves and even got more to come before the end of the eleventh series (Monstrous Revenge).
@@mikeyrivera8646 discard a name summon teeger summon gazelle dump something normal jack modulate it's level to a 6 make baron then do the rest of your salad combo
@@monkfishy6348 It's the synchro that modulates its level and locks you into special summoning fires. Unless the effect that is written on the video is wrong.
Ok so the only real good card is a link 4 that i have to run 2 of and is honestly pretty meh great. I love searchers that work after you clearly had a hand fully capable of comboing off. meaning you didnt need to search.
The L4 is busted. That much is clear. The interesting thing is, Wheesel is very very nice, because it lets you effectively add a card from Grave to hand because there is no world where you're not resolving stallio. It also chain blocks raging Phoenix and Heatleo. Finally, Gryphon is cute, but I'm not sure how you're supposed to use the 2nd ef (or for that matter the first ef). Really it comes down to which cards you're trying to abuse with it which is cool, but not very necessary. Teeger is fine, but not anything too impressive. The backrow sucks. Phoenix is a 9/10, Wheesel is a 9/10, Teeger is a 5/10, Gryphon is a 6/10, Backrow is trash.
How is the L4 busted? You're going through a lot of hoops and hurdles (even making yourself vulnerable to Nibiru for the umpteenth time) just for a SEARCH. I expected better for Salad support.
Making Raging Phoenix is too resource intensive. You already need to reincarnate Sunlight Wolf just to retrieve rage/roar from the graveyard. None of this support makes it easier to reincarnate multiple times in a turn.
just dont reincarnate wolf. you can already retrieve roar because roar sets itself when you reincarnate raging phoenix. you can already search rage because you can search rage with Raging Phoenix as well.
Pyro Phoenix is still the better Salad L4. It board wipes on reincarnation and can be combo'd with Transcendance for a nasty disrupt. Rage and Roar just make it better.
The First time i saw these support, i was pretty disapointed. That long awaited salad synchro looks like the anime card soulburner begging to have just because playmaker and revolver already have one, what are you implying konami ? you planning to make a card/archetype later that could work with the synchro or what? 🤨 Also a SIMPLE SEARCH effect on a LINK 4 is a no no. I kinda wish that cover card would a link-5 salad with strong effect, just because cyberse and rokket also got a link 5. I mean when you play some archetype, the first thing you want is to play it as pure as possible without outside support, so yeah a strong game finisher would be cool.
Raging Phoenix is a deception... i was expecting something like a good boss monster maybe something like a combine of Stardust Dragon and Black Rose Dragon effects Ex: If this card is link summoned you can destroy all cards on the field, if it was link summoned using "raging Phoenix" as link material you can destroy all cards that your opponent controls instead. If this is in your GY you can (quick effect): Banish 1 fire monster from your GY; Special Summon this card from your GY and this card gains ATK equal to the banished monster ATK. You can only use each effect of this card once per turn
outside of wheezlie and teegers, this supports is GARBAAGE. why is a searcher ability, a thing u do at the START of your combo, on a link 4, a card that is usually a combo ENDER. but it is somehow better than that sinchro that might as well be a vanilla cuz it doesnt do anyyyythiiiiing. the spell and trap are meeeh leaving only the main monsters to do something. all in all, this support doesnt change the end board AT ALL which is what salamangreat has been needing turn one and for turn 2 u still just do the usual kill everything with accesscode
Except for that new Link for Salad, these support screams Konami don't wanna break Salads so here's generic FIRE support because of the set's name..... Ughhh......
The Synchro just needed a better payoff for reincarnation to justify the lock. For example, allowing all your Cyberses to attack directly the turn it's reincarnated.
None of these cards are particularly good, still loose to nib, all you get is maybe some more advantage, consistency and recovery for grind, and being able to end on your best end board more consistently, but Salad’s best end board hasn’t been good enough for a long time now, too many decks play through it extremely easily, having access to syncros could be good, but a lot locks you into fire of which there’s not many decent syncros, so you would have to go for syncro build to get anything new out of this, which might actually be better since again, the salad end board is just not very good as it is.
These cards are so mid, I’m just thinking why would actually summon the synchro ever? The Link 4 is a waste of extra deck space too imo. That trap card is one of THE worst cards they’ve printed in awhile and the spell is waste of space in your deck. This shi gotta hurt for all the Salad enjoyers.
wow... this is... terrible. I don't see salad players playing 1 of that link 4 let alone 2, and all you get is a search? just make an apo if you're making a link 4 turn 1.
It's not great support but let's be real, did Salad really need any more support? Also, it's not even as egregious as some other past decks that needed support have gotten said support and that was downright trash, cough Inzektors cough
Man imagine wasting so much resource to do what? search a card? man these "supports" seems worthless and don't improve salamangreat strategy on anything
Salamangreat Weasel is okay. The rest,… garbage. Rage pheonix eats too many resources, the other tuner is meh, the spell and trap don’t do anything to help the deck, and the synchro is the worst thing I’ve seen from this. We waited how long for this new support? Terrible.
For those that didn't noticed there is a curiosity about Salamangreat Raging Phoenix that is the fact it is a combination of Pyro Phoenix and Fire Phoenix @Ignister
I actually didn't notice that. Kinda sick
Nice. Good eye
Noooo! Why?
@@windmirror7083 because fire Phoenix @ignister is flame which was soulburners ignis so it makes sense
Woooow it even has the ignister symbol how the heck didn't i notice that
I wish the link 4 treated itself as Pyro Phoenix while on field. So, u only have to run 1 of this and Pyro Phoenix and still trigger both their reincarnated effects
Aside from the main deck monsters introduced, the rest is generic fire support and greatly helps archetypes laval, flamvell, volcanics, and jurracs for example
Weesel bottoms ITSELF, and summons it's target.
As another comment pointed out that I will say here, the new spell card for Salamangreat ironically works better with another architype from the same packs, that being Volcanics being able to shuffle back cards like Scattershot or even Rimfire back into your deck, so I guess I'm adding that to my Volcanic deck instead of my Salamangreat deck.
Remember half of the salad support is just fire deck support
The fact that you rather play shitty volcanics instead of actual good decks like salad is the ironic part tho🤣
@@emmarosie7176 u havent see the volcanics new support right?
@@Aryues new support ain’t even all that 😅
It was just support that was long overdue to shut up Payne96
A bit ironic, ain’t it?
It's about time "What the hell?" was added to your roster.
Meme clips are great cross promotion
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I'm glad that Salamangreat are getting tuners. This means now you can also play the OTHER HORSE (Horse Prince) to summon your Gazelle or something else from the deck FOR FREE. Look at my horse, my horse is amazing!
The spell/traps clearly look like they're generic support for other fire decks more than for Salamangreat. Charge will be better for Volcanics because it just recycles the stuff you banished for Emperor (or the Scattershots you dumped to raigeki). The other trap card, idk yet, probably more useful somewhere else though.
i think the best thing about these cards is just giving Salad some access to the synchro pool in general
This. The FIRE options alone have some spicy additions that you can use even under Stallio lock.
Nah, best thing is that it means gazelle moves up to 3
@@autobotstarscream765 Literally the only half decent generic fire synchro is a random Lavalval Exlord or whatever his name is
@@zyro7756 Every new Salami card is _that_ bad? 🤣
@Zyro Considering you're not actually locked into Level 8, Black Rose Dragon and Fire Fist Horse Prince come to mind.
Charge is a pop with heatsoul on the field, worth pointing out
Kinda wished the new Phoenix had the increasingly illusive "Always treated as" clause with Pyro Phoenix, which would have made for some pretty interesting play lines.
This comment alone fixes an entire Salamangreat deck
You can use Teeger to get into either Savage or Baron which is pretty cool. The link 4 seems pretty good, but having to invest so much material into it is unfortunate. Being able to search Will and activate what is essentially a soul charge is hilarious though. At least with the new support Salads end board of a nibiru token will be a lot beefier and harder to get over.
Unfortunately when you use teeger to go into one of those you won't be able to use miragestallio or your negate goes offline and you still lose to nib... And summoning one of them will also require your ns so unless you open like the craziest 5 card hand you are not extending past that
Investment doesn't matter you have infinite recursion now
@@johnnickfanaccount3492 Yeah it would've been nice if the new synchro gave some form of nib protection for salads, but alas
well spinny + Gazelle (the old 2 card combo) ends on the link 4, both traps, relinked link 4 and Gazelle in hand. i see that as a absolut win.
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Quick word salad analysis based on first look :
Salamangreat Weesel:
Pretty fair summoning requirement especially in prolonged game so unlikely to act as a brick.
The second effect is especially interesting as it lets you block major blowout cards like Gamma/Lightning Storm/Evenly Matched on top of Kashtira's and also nets you +1 in process so definitely a unit for deck. I suppose best target to currently SS for opponent would be Falco so you could always reset Salamangreat spell/trap from gy when it leaves opponents field.
Also always wanted to have Salamangreat tuner for Lavalval Salamander as it can draw you 2 for potentially no drawback if you got cards you want to dump anyway and extra face-down flip can also come up.
Salamangreat Teeger:
Discarding a card for its SS is acceptable in this deck but only in case if the effect makes up for its discard effect to SS it. Level 5 feels like a big miss here as it should have been just level 4 with same modulation effect so that you could firstly just normal summon it when needed and go for either the new synchro or actually have another material for Miragestallio. You could technically turn this into level 4 to go with any level 3 Salamangreat and make Lavalval Salamander for extra draws and then use Wheesel to go into Baroness or you could just level it up to 6 and use Jaguar/Mathmech to make Baroness but whether that's worth the investment/space is up to you.
Salamangreat Raging Phoenix:
The expected cover link Salamangreat which im not sure if you could call a boss monster as i really wanted the deck to have an in themed strong finisher that could replace the need to go into Accesscode. Even though it searches you any Salamangreat card which is great in its own regard, i would have much preferred if it were actually link-5 with more powerful effects and searched you a card on just initial link summon leaving your reincarnation summon for Sunlight Wolf.
The gy effect can definitely come up to either act as a beater or potentially save you from otk by acting like high attack Gorz but i feel like they should have let it pop a monster when summoned from gy and then add that monsters attack instead which would also give the new cards that SS from gy much more value and much needed extra monster interaction during either turn.
Overall would still play it just for the search but for such high link rating monster which takes your main gimmick and especially advertises the product on the cover it definitely leaves a bit more to be desired.
Salamangreat Burst Gryphon:
Was honestly looking forward the new synchro the most as it was pretty clear that were finally getting one to complete all extra deck mechanics and cant say im quite pleased as it feels like its meant much more for other fire decks in general rather than Salamangreats.
The level 8 kinda feels too steep for the deck as unless you're using Teeger you have no real consistent ways of making it and payoff just isn't there as only considerable target would probably be Gazelle which you probably have already used anyway. And reincarnation synchro effect doesn't feel too viable either as you literally have 0 in themed targets that interact with opponent in any way on their turn unless you maybe use Transcendence. You could dump Inferno Statue with Fire Ejection to reborn it on opponents turn but whether all that is even worth it is another matter.
Making it off of Gamma would probably be only way i would even consider running and even then that's 2 more spaces in already super tight extra deck.
Overall it feels like they're signaling incoming Fire King support with that 2nd effect.
Salamangreat Charge:
Pretty neat support piece for a change as you can either recover your materials which felt much needed sometimes when you are out of things like Spinny's or Balelynxe's and reborn something for link climbing at the same time. It being a quick play spell also makes 2nd effect much more appealing as it can act as a potential interaction during either turn.
Now the biggest use i see here is still leaving reincarnation link summon for Sunlight Wolf and then climbing up to Raging Phoenix through Heatleo which you can immediately revive and hard make another Raging Phoenix which would meet the condition for search effect and leave you with potential pop 4 with Rage assuming you already acquired the Roar with Sunlight Wolf.
For now its at least a 2 of for me and would even consider it as 3 of if there happens to be a consistent way of modulating attack during either turn as i wouldn't be afraid of opening multiples if i can use it as interruption next turn too.
Also goes really hard in Volcanics to pitch your Scattershots and bring back Rimfire.
Salamangreat Revive:
As far as Salamangreats are concerned the artwork is probably as much as it goes for this card in a deck that already reborns a ton and has no real in-themed interactions or effects from any of their gy summons so maybe last reveal will change this cards viability. It has one little application to recover something and change attack of your monster to make Charge pop live immediately during any moment so there could be a world where you could run this at 1.
If anything you can now actually get some payoff from Circle of Fire Kings as you can pop a fire monster to bring back something else alongside Raging Phoenix which will bring itself back upon destruction thus perhaps making it easier for you to achieve double reincarnation summon for Sunlight Wolf and Raging Phoenix.
Overall at least half of these cards are viable enough to run at few copies as they do plus you in few ways and at the very least strengthen the control aspect of this deck with extra card advantage which is this decks strongest side and its still too early to give a final verdict to all these cards as there is 1 more reveal left which might completely change our outlook on some of them.
The way they are trying to push these reborns feels like we might get a much needed interaction on summon from the last main deck monster or even an effect that greatly stuns the opponent which would kind of fit this decks playstyle and make all these reborn effects more viable.
Deck has already been competent enough and we knew that getting 7 cards and every single of them being really good was too much to ask for a playable enough deck so if at least half of this is useful then its a still a win for players ツ
From my perspective there are only a few things that I would consider a significant buff:
1) a way to get through nibiru, these cards kind of help, but a think nibiru will still result in a nothing board.
2) a stronger turn 1 end board. I don’t think this will raise the ceiling above the current 1 rank 4, 2 traps, heatsoul ceiling.
3) a way to reincarnation summon more or on opponents turn (not the current trash qp spell though).
As you said, I see some applications for some of the cards, but the synchro and the traps are straight no. I am hoping for a retrain of the field spell that is still treated as sanctuary that lets either let’s you reincarnation summon more than once a turn (so you can trigger wolf and either leo or phoenix on the same turn) or as a quick effect (so you can trigger old phoenix on opponents turn). Other than that my hopes would be a better synchro (level 6 or 7 since you can reliably summon that) or an actually useful rank 4.
@@StikeForce2013 Dont think i will have any application for synchro as i dont want to reduce this deck to another Barrier Statue.dek nor there is any point in making it in Salamangreats if all you are going to do is revive something which can be done in easier ways and the trap is just way too slow and has no real payoff right now to revive anything on opponents turn + i realized that Heatsoul increases attack anytime it points to something so that`s all you need to make Charge live.
As for extra Re-Link summon, Formud Skipper actually brings in good value as it can use itself to chain block Sanctuary search which is much more valuable now and also search either Teeger or Exceed for Alembertian combo which is probably as good as it gets for R4 in this deck or just link climb up to Heatsoul->Raging Phoenix.
Not sure if i would want to invest in Baroness but will definitely try out Lavalval Salamander as its not just +2 but also free dumps in a deck that wants half of their cards in gy and you can still make Baroness through it if you can revive Wheesel.
All in all i dont think this support is bad at all as this is more of a fire support in general and might push Salamangreats in new directions that haven`t been explored before. Just wish the link was more of a boss monster that had any kind of interaction during either turn so i could drop Accesscode which would give deck more identity.
Will probably also still continue using Pyro Phoenix as Black Roseing opponents entire field in some scenarios can be far more beneficial than 1 search and it actually does come up for me way more often than some people give it credit for.
And its also agreeable that a card or effect that allows you to Re-Link summon during either turn would be the best support this deck could get based on what it already does so high hopes for the last reveal which just might have this kind of a quick play effect or something spicy on summon.
Interesting the Salamangreat Synchro is a Gryphon (reminds me of Windy using avian monsters like Griffins, as well as being defeated by the Synchro Monster of Revolver). And I never noticed this until the reveal of Burst Gryphon, but a lot of the Salamangreat monsters that are Special Summoned are somewhat creatures of flight: Burst Gryphon, Emerald Eagle,
Blaze Dragon (Miragestallio has flame wings & Violet Chimera has somewhat of flaming wing-blades;), and Pyro & Raging Phoenix {and Heatleo sorta has like wing-like armor}
This is quite literally the only correct opinion i've seen on the new support.
So many people calling the link 4 and the 2 main deck monsters bad LMAO.
They aren't bad, but they aren't very good either. It's unfortunate the Link-4 wasn't a Zealantis-like, only requiring 1+ fire effect monsters so you can still re-link sunlight wolf. The extra deck is so tight that fitting 2 mid Link 4's is going to be very hard.
@@monkfishy6348 Is it *really* that hard though. The only mandatory SG stuff you run is Wolf, Baelynx and afaik heatleo sometimes (hell idek if people run that anymore)
You have your accesscode line which takes 3.
I feel like there's gotta be SOME space to fit 2 of them in, because from what i've seen the boards you can make with it are way better than before.
And even if we ignore the Link 4 there's no real reason to not run the main decks at least at 1. Weesal is live the minute you do your basic line and Teeger can allow for synchro plays (like Baronne)
2 wolf is enough lol and with 3 bale thats only 5 for the ed. 1 mirage and 2 new phoenix thats 8. Transcode, splash mage, accescode, heatsoul, and update thats 13. You still have 2 flex. Its not that tight.
@@justamuart I’ve played salads since release, trust me 2 is not enough the 3rd one will almost always come up
@@justamuart why 3 Baelynx tho? We can now just about infinitely recycle the card even when it's banished. We can lower it to 2, maybe even 1 if you consider the new cards more valuable in a sense or thought
- Wheesel is nice, level 3 that can special summon itself rather easily, and works well with Fusion of fire as said, altho not the best play imo. I think the best way to go about it would be to summon Sunlight Wolf, summon a salad with Wheesel's effect to Wolf's up arrow to trigger its effect to recycle and draw you a card, and then use Mirage's floating effect to bounce back the summoned monster to your hand. That way you recycle two monsters and draw you a card, instead of just recycling one with the regular Jaguar revive. Also bonus points for just being very cute
- Teeger's summoning is even better i would say, no need for prior setup and sets up your future plays by discarding stuff like Foxy, Spinny or Jaguar, while also triggering Gazelle. The fact that it can modulate its level to level 6 is nice as it means you can make Baronne de Fleur with Salamangreat now, you just need a level 4 to go along, most likely Jaguar. You can also just reduce its level to 4 to facilitate Bagooska plays. It can also be searched with Formud Skipper since it's a level 5, which is a cute tech. Also a pretty good card imo
- Burst Gryphon is uuuh, not very good. At least in Salads. It's easy to make, and then easy to "reincarnate" with its first effect but the payoff is mediocre, not only do you get locked into fire for the rest of the turn but when it comes to Salamangreat itself you don't really have any target that's worth the investment imo. Unless you somehow manage to get the fire Barrier Statue in the GY ? Considering there's not restriction on the monster you can summon with this effect, i'm sure people will find ways to abuse this card. Now i can definitely see it being played in other fire decks, generic materials, and it's not restricted to Salad monsters on both of its revival effects. Soo maybe in decks like Laval, Fire Fist, etc ? I'm not very knowledgeable on fire synchro decks
- Raging Phoenix is okay, being able to search any Salad card is great. I do wish its link rating was lower, like maybe a Link 3 but at the same time, with the number of extenders Salad has, summoning this card shouldn't be too hard either. Now yes, you need to reincarnate this card to get the search and considering it's only once per turn with Sanctuary, you have to pass on the Sunlight Wolf reincarnation. But is that an issue ? If you want your Rage so badly, you can just search it with this card and pop up to 4 cards during your opponent's turn, and as of Roar, it can set itself from the GY when you reincarnate anyway. Another amazing search with this card would be Will, as it could allow you to special summon up to 4 Salads by targeting Raging, which is huge. You could then just hard reincarnate Wolf and get your trap recycling anyway like you wanted. I think it's alright, altho i definitely would have preferred to get an actual boss monster, not a oversized searcher with a slow and mediocre ATK boost effect
- Charge is okay, ig ? Being able to recycle your links and banished cards like Spinny and Bale is nice, but as pointed, this card is overall a worse Will when it comes to the revival effect. The other effect to pop a card is okay, Rage is overall better since it does more while not requiring as much setup making the card a bit irrelevant, but since it's not restricted to Salad monsters you can use it with Heatsoul for example if you end on the Heatsoul + Transcode board which is nice. Other than that, it's a pretty mediocre card imo. At least in Salads, because when it comes to other decks like Volcanics, this card is pretty good, revives from the GY while recycling your "ammo" after it was banished to summon Emperor or negate with Inferno, that's cool, and i'm sure it can see use in other fire decks. Just like Burst Gryphon, it's good in anything except the deck it's meant to be for, sad
- Revive i think is the worst card, again, worst than Will and Charge as a revival, so you're better off pitching it with Gazelle but then again, that's only "good" going second. Ig it does give you more OTK potential while recycling a card but let's be real, you're better off just going into Accesscode using Update Jammer. Oh and yes, it enables Charge's pop effect but again, a lot of set up when you can just use Rage.
All in all, i think the support is decent, at least when it comes to the monsters, well apart from Burst Gryphon. Opening Salads to Synchros definitely gives new opportunities to the strategy which i think is cool. The S/Ts on the other hand are just very underwhelming to me, they feel like worse versions of cards we already have. Now i really hope the last card they announce is good, hopefully it's an actual boss monster with protection or disruption, and i also hope they release Gazelle in the upcoming banlist (come on Konami it's not 2019 anymore, just release the fucking thing. Oh and Harp Horror and Knightmare Mermaid too, i think Orcust also deserves to be freed, both decks got mad powercrept). If they do, along with this support, maybe we can see Salad return as a decent rogue deck
Finally. A searcher for salad s/t. No longer has to decide whether dump Roar, Rage or Jaguar using Gazelle eff.
If the new phoenix had an effect like "this cards name is treated as pyro phoenix on field and in the graveyard", maybe a tech of using salamangreat transcendence and 1 copy of pyro phoenix wouldve been a thing, but alas.
For me the only good things to come from this support are the level 3 special summon from hand/GY and Raging Phoenix being able to add any Salamangreat card to your hand.
However, needing to make a Link 4 and relink it to add a Salamangreat card is just asking for alot. Salamangreat should always be able to play around with their deck without going through too much effort. And Raging Phoenix is a bit too much if you ask me. They applied the design of all other cyberse decks (wich is special summon, special summon, special summon and special summon) to Salamangreat. Wich was never its design to begin with and keeps on asking to lose to Nibiru.
i mean sanctuary overlooks that but i see what you mean (i.e incase you dont got sanctuary in hand/on field/in GY)
Indeed. The deck still dies to one Nibiru so they need a way to protect themselves from that if they EVER want to be relevant again.
Finally a new salamangreat support cards while not what I have in mind about either retrained or variant of pyro Phoenix ATK or effect but his design look cool and neat and having synchro monster is bonus
Synchro is not likely to be played but the tuners, particularly Tiger do open up the level 8 synchro package.
Because Teeger can adjust its Level, it's not just the L8s that are free real estate. 😎
I remember when yubel support was talked about getting support out, the thing that's crazy to me is even without this support salamangreat great is still competitive.
Steven He reacts in the DPYGO catalogue? Issa good day.
Charge is Volcanic support - change my mind.
Kinda hard to, since it fully recharges Scattershot by itself.
Recovers Balelynx _and_ Spinny from the Banishment Zone in one go and Salami can search it.
All that waiting for nothing damn you Konami
Raging Phoenix is 4ss as a boss monster, just another searcher.
I'm probably the odd one in the group but i feel like Raging Phenix is fine for what it its, to me its basically a once per turn Blocker that will revive itself each time a monster dies basically
I can not wait to see these cards in duel links two years from now.
Wow we're getting a salamangreat synchro monster that's sick. And here my name wasn't use for it I was thinking it would of been called salamangreat illusion tiger
This is the Extend version of Blazing Phoenix
I called a salamangreat synchro 2 years ago
There is still 1 card left of this support, which is a monster. Hopefully is a Salad that can copy the name of one of the extra deck Salads.
Wait they really just left out a card also it should be copy extra deck monsters in the gy
...It would be cute if it let us say Link Summon on the opponent's turn like Formula Synchron does for Synchros.
@@Deathmare235 That's how Duelist Pack reveals go: They leave out 1 card per wave just to save some hype energy.
@@Deathmare235 Yes, they left the card 0001, which is a monster taking into account its code. And the f*, it should copy names by just revealing the monster in your extra deck, like a Fromud Skipper but just for Salads.
@@frankperichon9072 that kinda seems op though a monster that can just easily get out any link salamangreat
A steven he clip is a rare thing on this channel
Christ that weasel startled me
IWAE! The salamangreats have a synchro monster
I can see Gryphon being used in combo decks to bring back something like Kristya, but I don't really see much point of it being used in Salamangreat.
Yeeeeeeeah❤ salamangrrat with more power
The link 4 is fine with me
I was not expecting this channel to start using Steven He clips, but I am all for it
It's the Evolution for me
Let’s get it
Konami should've just made a card that broadens Rekindling targets or takes out the "200 DEF" restriction
Magical Musketeers: Is it our turn to finally get support yet?
I thought this man can only using old memes but Steven He... FUIYOH
The trap card I guess you send with Gazelle to the GY to try an OTK
They made them like they forget they only have 15 slots extra deck. I am not playing
0:40 Never knew Drew watches Steven He....
For once, I am glad the best existing archetype in the box got the most mid support.
I know they don't care about balance overall, but its nice when they make it seem like they do.
cyborg: "Online we call that Trolling/[Copium]"
Back to Salamediocre, I see
Personally, Pyro Phoenix > Raging Phoenix. Blowing up your opponent's board is fun and you can reuse it's effect every turn. Raging searches (how original) and comes back, I guess, but it's just so plain and basic.
The higher the expectations are, the worse they get.
1:50 well... is not like you can't pause the video to read the card effects carefully xD
THERE GOES THE SUPREME SHOT DROP
Oo, link 4 worth summoning and turns spell into soul charge for 4.
With all of this recursion, recycling, recovering, & now Special Summoning is Emerald Eagle ever going to see some value now?
Nope
Charge isnt trash its a good 1 off because it resycle banish balelynx.
And summon something like jaguar wont matter its effects are negated
The banished Balelynx _and_ the banished Spinny. 🔥
Question. So if someone has 2 salamangreat raging phoenix. 1 in the graveyard and the other on the field with the help of 'salamangreat sanctuary'. Then if your opponent destroy raging phoenix on the field. Can you special summon the other raging phoenix from the graveyard with 5600 atk? And if it's destroyed again, then do the same with the other ragin phoenix from the graveyard with 5600 atk?
Salad deserved better. It's unfortunate... especially that synchro lol
At least the Spell is searchable recovery for Balelynx and Spinny.
Welp now I don’t have to run those trash 1 ofs
Nice Steven he reference. Don't know why they made monsters for other summoning mechanic(besides xyz) cause it's just garbage and they do it on purpose wasting paper, cause sanctuary don't synergize with them.
*BUNCHA BALLWASHIN' BASTERDS...*
nah the synchros good. you can 2 card combo barrier lock your opponent with it using some of the volcanic support
Salamangreat Blaze Gryphon: Not locked to Salami and better everywhere else. 😂
@@autobotstarscream765 actually no, you can play mathmech as an engine and get barrier statue out on field with sunlight wolf without using normal
@Hatzmania If you think about it though, doesn't that make it more of a Mathmech card in that situation? 😂
@@autobotstarscream765 no? What fire monsters are you summoning outside of add/sub in mathmech. After you establish wolf/barrier you can do literally everything else you need for salad.
@Hatzmania Where's the rest of the "Mathmech cards" "engine" then? 😂
Cool
Given the value of these cards, I think Konami only 'supported' Salamangreat because they couldn't ignore what is arguably the most popular fire based archetype in a fire based pack. They want Salamangreat to die which is also supported by the fact that the deck hasn't had any support throughout series 11.
What are you talking about… it’s an anime character deck. It’ll have two more support cards within a year. You buggin
It's a anime deck that is really popular i doubt that they'll just trow the deck into obscurity, it's easy money to them
It's a completed archetype tbh. Also Phoenix and Wheesel are pretty good at bare minimum.
@@Saixjacket 😆 If its true that I'm 'buggin' and I don't know what I'm talking about, then you should explain why the deck didn't get support since Eternity Code (2020). Following that, there's been a whole series of products and Salamangreat is one of the very few VRAINS archetypes that didn't get any support in series 11 despite it's popularity. The power creep in the last year has been immense and the support these new cards offer to Salamangreat is minimal and insufficient for it to regain the competitive position it used to have hence Konami effectively killing it. You have no idea whether Konami plan to release future support 'within a year' and given their reluctantance to support it I'd doubt we'll see a solid wave of support any time soon (hopefully we get a 'one-off' which seems to be the trend with anime decks in general).
@@kauanjos3199 I would like to agree with you but the fact is that this is the first wave of support Salamangreat has had in over 3 years and is underwhelming at best. Within that 3+ year span, other VRAINS archetypes have had multiple support waves and even got more to come before the end of the eleventh series (Monstrous Revenge).
I really don't know how you'll be able to Synchro summon Burst Gryphon using it's self as a material as you need to some how decrease it's level.
I thought it’s own effect decreased it’s own level?
read the card again, it reduces its level
It has an effect that lets it reduce its own Level. The payoff is still mid for a Level 8 Synchro.
Salaman they ain’t so great
I just want more darklord support
I mean teager can become baron which is cool since mske it a 6 plus a four at least gives you nib protection by summon 3
How?
@@mikeyrivera8646 It modulates its level, so it can become a level 6, then all you need is to put a level 4 on board, which is easy in Salads.
@@mikeyrivera8646 discard a name summon teeger summon gazelle dump something normal jack modulate it's level to a 6 make baron then do the rest of your salad combo
@@monkfishy6348 It's the synchro that modulates its level and locks you into special summoning fires. Unless the effect that is written on the video is wrong.
@@monkfishy6348 Ah, okay. I just saw the card's full effect.
the only card is decent I would say is the link and maybe the two new main monsters
Hey the revive is good
Yeah that gryphon second ability is kinda lame. Also weasel putting a monster on their field could activate Pyro Phoenix second ability to burn them.
😊
I hope whoever made the extra deck cards was pained by knowingly wasting such good art
Ok so the only real good card is a link 4 that i have to run 2 of and is honestly pretty meh great. I love searchers that work after you clearly had a hand fully capable of comboing off. meaning you didnt need to search.
well spoken
Salamanmid
😱😱😱😱
This doesn’t really make salad any better lol
Whenever archetype/series gets featured on Duelist Pack cover art, their support becomes mediocre at best. Must be some curse going on.
At bare minimum Sherry, Ruri, Aoi and Ishizu all had high to top-tier meta cards that debuted in Duelist Packs.
Morphtronic also got that FTK enabler.
The L4 is busted. That much is clear.
The interesting thing is, Wheesel is very very nice, because it lets you effectively add a card from Grave to hand because there is no world where you're not resolving stallio. It also chain blocks raging Phoenix and Heatleo.
Finally, Gryphon is cute, but I'm not sure how you're supposed to use the 2nd ef (or for that matter the first ef). Really it comes down to which cards you're trying to abuse with it which is cool, but not very necessary. Teeger is fine, but not anything too impressive. The backrow sucks.
Phoenix is a 9/10, Wheesel is a 9/10, Teeger is a 5/10, Gryphon is a 6/10, Backrow is trash.
How is the L4 busted? You're going through a lot of hoops and hurdles (even making yourself vulnerable to Nibiru for the umpteenth time) just for a SEARCH.
I expected better for Salad support.
THESE CARDS ARE BETTER THEN YOU THINK.
The Level 3 is fine, but everything else is either mid or better used in other decks. Salad has plenty of powerful ammo on its own as it is.
The Spell maybe, at least it unbanishes Balelynx, Spinny, and Roar in one shot.
Making Raging Phoenix is too resource intensive. You already need to reincarnate Sunlight Wolf just to retrieve rage/roar from the graveyard. None of this support makes it easier to reincarnate multiple times in a turn.
just dont reincarnate wolf. you can already retrieve roar because roar sets itself when you reincarnate raging phoenix. you can already search rage because you can search rage with Raging Phoenix as well.
You have enough extenders to hard make a second sunlight wolf, and then link climb into this and reincarnate this
Pyro Phoenix is still the better Salad L4. It board wipes on reincarnation and can be combo'd with Transcendance for a nasty disrupt. Rage and Roar just make it better.
The First time i saw these support, i was pretty disapointed. That long awaited salad synchro looks like the anime card soulburner begging to have just because playmaker and revolver already have one, what are you implying konami ? you planning to make a card/archetype later that could work with the synchro or what? 🤨
Also a SIMPLE SEARCH effect on a LINK 4 is a no no. I kinda wish that cover card would a link-5 salad with strong effect, just because cyberse and rokket also got a link 5. I mean when you play some archetype, the first thing you want is to play it as pure as possible without outside support, so yeah a strong game finisher would be cool.
Mid support
Raging Phoenix is a deception... i was expecting something like a good boss monster maybe something like a combine of Stardust Dragon and Black Rose Dragon effects
Ex: If this card is link summoned you can destroy all cards on the field, if it was link summoned using "raging Phoenix" as link material you can destroy all cards that your opponent controls instead. If this is in your GY you can (quick effect): Banish 1 fire monster from your GY; Special Summon this card from your GY and this card gains ATK equal to the banished monster ATK. You can only use each effect of this card once per turn
My dude, _Pyro_ Pheonix is the Salami BRD, and now that they have Tuners, they can summon the _actual_ BRD. Why would they make _another_ Sal BRD? 😂
outside of wheezlie and teegers, this supports is GARBAAGE. why is a searcher ability, a thing u do at the START of your combo, on a link 4, a card that is usually a combo ENDER. but it is somehow better than that sinchro that might as well be a vanilla cuz it doesnt do anyyyythiiiiing. the spell and trap are meeeh leaving only the main monsters to do something. all in all, this support doesnt change the end board AT ALL which is what salamangreat has been needing turn one and for turn 2 u still just do the usual kill everything with accesscode
for one the synchro is so trash and two what next turn lol that's if you have also a big if you last long enough
Formud Skipper buyouts incoming...again...
The salad support is mediocre as hell, it's just swarm stuff with minor recursion which they already have out the ass.
Except for that new Link for Salad, these support screams Konami don't wanna break Salads so here's generic FIRE support because of the set's name..... Ughhh......
I’m a fan of Salamangreat and after reading these cards, my disappointment is immeasurable and my day is ruined.
*My disappointment is ruined and my day is immeasurable
The biggest issue in the synchro is that silly fire lock. Losing access to splash mage, heatsoul and ACCESSCODE makes it alot harder to justify using.
heatsoul is a fire monster
@@94marci good luck summoning heatsoul without 2+ monster with different atributes. like, its possible, but proly not worth it with no splash mage.
The Synchro just needed a better payoff for reincarnation to justify the lock. For example, allowing all your Cyberses to attack directly the turn it's reincarnated.
None of these cards are particularly good, still loose to nib, all you get is maybe some more advantage, consistency and recovery for grind, and being able to end on your best end board more consistently, but Salad’s best end board hasn’t been good enough for a long time now, too many decks play through it extremely easily, having access to syncros could be good, but a lot locks you into fire of which there’s not many decent syncros, so you would have to go for syncro build to get anything new out of this, which might actually be better since again, the salad end board is just not very good as it is.
You can't say Teeger. That's their word. You can say Teega though.
He's black, he has the T-Word Pass. 🐯
These cards are so mid, I’m just thinking why would actually summon the synchro ever? The Link 4 is a waste of extra deck space too imo. That trap card is one of THE worst cards they’ve printed in awhile and the spell is waste of space in your deck. This shi gotta hurt for all the Salad enjoyers.
wow... this is... terrible. I don't see salad players playing 1 of that link 4 let alone 2, and all you get is a search? just make an apo if you're making a link 4 turn 1.
It's not great support but let's be real, did Salad really need any more support? Also, it's not even as egregious as some other past decks that needed support have gotten said support and that was downright trash, cough Inzektors cough
Wheesel is cool
Rest is meh
Looking forward to Charge in Transcendrakes. 😂
Man imagine wasting so much resource to do what? search a card? man these "supports" seems worthless and don't improve salamangreat strategy on anything
Salamangreat Weasel is okay. The rest,… garbage. Rage pheonix eats too many resources, the other tuner is meh, the spell and trap don’t do anything to help the deck, and the synchro is the worst thing I’ve seen from this. We waited how long for this new support? Terrible.