Joshua Schmidt Reacts to New Salamangreat Support
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I think with this new support the nib token they end on will be much bigger
Lmfao underated comment
Summon a larger and larger rock
You can negate nib turn 1 with the help of salamangreat circular, salamangreat diameter, and salamangreat alembertian😂
Which Nib Token do you think is bigger, the Salad one or the Hero one?
@@gabrielgois8724 HEROs have Wake Up now so they'll be fine with that DPE and Dark Law on board
Very cool how they released an early 2010s synchro in 2023
Salamangreat needs a 20 card extra deck for all the duplicates you need to run...
I think thats what konami is aiming for? Give out more options than usual only to be barred by the 15 limit. Might be wrong though, I dont play salad
Only 3 of them are good so it's fine
@@johnnickfanaccount3492 Yet ED has always been a problem to salad. Currently its 3x Baelynx, 3x Wolf, 2x Stalio + the cyberse pack. You only get 2 slots for other stuff, usually Bagooska and some other rank 4 like Dweller. Add 2x Raging Phoenix and there's no space for anything else, much less a subpar Synchro. Building the ED will get complicated, Baronne seems worth it, but it'll have to compromise something.
@@nightmagister uh... Did you just say 2x stallio???? You only ever play 1 stallio in salamangreat. Also you just straight up don't play raging phoenix, you forgot to include heatleo and heatsoul in here, and you only play 1 toolbox r4... Also baronne is absolutely not worth it
@@nightmagisterbro who tf plays 2 stallio, you have never played the deck before in a competitive way lmao
The whole point of that thing Weasel does is to use the new Link 4 as a way to draw 4 off Burning Draw(which it can search) which is very funny.
They need to control more cards which means it's dead.
Fusion of Fire
nah it's for Pyro Phoenix burn for when time is called lol
actually it's so that you can summon back gazelle and then bounce it to your hand with stallio's effect
@@ascriptmaster I enjoy playing full-salad on MD with Pyro Phoenix and immediatly though of that. It fixes the problem of your opponent have to be playing a link based deck for it to work. It'll be funny, but definetly not good.
The synchro has the potential to be busted in anything but Salamangreat.
lmao literally
You can tell they only made a synchro just to complete the set
"the fact that you can summon -generic omni negation- is interesting" - Joshua Schmidt 2023
It is such a shame that these cards aren't up to par for 2023. Decks like VS and even R-ACE play as Salamangreat used to, but better, even with this support wave.
Hell no! Cap!
VS?
@@crusadiamaximus755 Vanquish Soul
Nice Mathmech support
One circular lets you end on Superfactorial plus Salad Link 4
& Salad Trap
The best thing about the support is that it implies gazelle to 3
Agree give us our consistent back
Salamanaverage
I ignored the salad cards because i focused on the fire support spell that has salamangreat misprinted in its name specifically for Volcanics
Feels like these cards should've come out 2-3 years ago
salamangreat need an in archetype monster to end on with interaction
Salamangreat might be the only deck in existence that could have a 20 card extra deck and still not be broken
Forget about Hero lol
they designed themselves into a corner with all the latest generic cyberse support. cyberse is becoming one monogenized monstrosity like pendulum. to differentiate an archetype from the meta pile you need to give them restrictions and/or a completely different gameplan.
like abyss actors or now salamangreat
Basically we’re at the point we need to ban accesscode
@@greenhillmario and/or update jammer
@@greenhillmario I would like that but that is just the OTK option. changes nothing about the first turn end board
@@frankunodostres473 banning accescode makes no sense. you can't ban cards just because you don't like them
cyberse share some cards but they all have different strategies
@@jiek9017 And you know what card being banned could give decks (not just cyberse) more differentiation in their strategies? Accesscode. If you consider it on a larger scale every modern deck aims to create a situation where accesscode or some generic otk machine comes in to clear the game. Tri-brigade, mathmech (a deck with in archetype bosses for otking that they forgo), salamangreat, and definitely more all play this aggressively because of cards like access/borrelsword. It's not just a card I dislike, it's a card that defines how ygo is played now and has merit to be banned
I don't like the level 3 to much, but I like how the level 5 can either make a Baronne or a Rank 4 with your 4s. The Link 4 can search Rage to pop 4 amd in general I like boss monsters that just keep coming back, but the Extra Deck is already pretty tight, so I don't know if playing 2 of it is worthy
you pretty much have to play 2 of the raging phoenix or else you are not getting the the search
The synchro is fire support an the bast
wheesel's 2nd eff is goofy, but cards that can turn off imperm, gamma, evenly and lightning storm can randomly win games by themselves
It can cluth up sometimes.
Also incidentally pretty strong against one of the top decks atm
Hhmm, first thing I think of giving salamangreat synchro access is fire fist horse prince actually!
Can summon any level 3 fire out of deck could be something worth messing with
So basically be worse Stallio
@@zyro7756 yeah I guess, but I don't think it fire locks you and you would probably have both to mess with not sure if there's anything super wild you can do yet but I feel like there's potential
@@julieyeenqueen8221 doesn't fire lock you but does level lock you into 4 or lower if that matters.
Konami please make Gazelle unlimited.
I’m sure it will be, though it’s better to run it at 2 than 3
@@wen8739I think 3 is necessary for consistency, according to my MD 4 attributes event experiences
@@RickKong1998 3 isn’t bad but 2 is ideal imo, you can search gazelle with 3 circles if you really need to, other than that it will simply take up too much main deck space if you run 3 gazelle
@@wen8739 you always wanna see gazelle in hand, why would you purposefully handicap yourself lol
In archetype, the synchro's intended use is probably to revive a blaze dragon since it can quick effect overlay itself with another copy and then pop.
It can't revive Xyz though because those don't have levels
@@ascriptmaster 2nd effect
I don't know in Salamangreat but in most FIRE decks Burst Gryphon is really good!!
It's not worth it right now because of Hiita restriction but, just to have an example, tecnically with Volcanic Rocket + Revolution Synchron you can now do this. Ns rocket search, ss with revolution synchron lavalval salamander draw 2, discard 2 then go into Burst Gryphon ss back rocket and search again.
You can then go into a fire rank 4 but there are not a good one i believe
Wheesel allows you to summon something to then bounce with Miragestallio's effect while also getting a draw. (it also allows you to gozen/rivalry lock but we dont talk about that)
Teeger is interesting but probably not great, in hands that open like 4 names you can make baronne under 5 summons and just not make stallio i guess
Link 4 is good, can climb with Splash Mage into Heatsoul into this with any 3 mats and also gives you a draw. I think this is likely the new default endboard - can send Roar with Gazelle and search Rage to end on both traps.
Synchro doesn't really have any great applications imo
Quick-play is actually pretty cool - it kinda pays for itself to add itself back to hand, since you can hard relink Wolf, summon back Wolf, add it back, then go into the link 4. Unfortunately it's only a disruption if you end on Heatsoul which seems a lot rarer now.
trap is bad
Teeger seems amazing imo and link 4 are good. You search rage and that is a pop 4/revive 4. Teeger discards and you already want cards in salad in the graveyard and gives more extension. The tuners don’t lock you into fire monsters so you can make any synchro in the game. Wheesel being a 3 gives you access to fire fist horse prince that summons any level 3 from the deck. Teeger let’s you do all your plays without using your normal summon which I think is massively undervalued.
Horse Prince is actually kinda nice in the deck now
Only if you want to link climb. Pretty sure it locks you out of level 5 or higher monsters
@chew doom It does, but it also doesn't matter. It's more access to gazelle through handtraps, so you'd always play 1 as it will come up
Salamandecent
I think the link for is for coming back if you lose advantage or go for the otk without accesscode
Im not sure with that Synchro Monster yet... im not that big into Fire Monsters but is there a way to put a Fire Monster from Deck to your GY and if is that Route searchable... Im thinking of an small Package with that you can search a card that puts a Fire Monster from Deck to GY. You put Barrierstatue of Inferno to the GY and revive it with the Synchromonster or Samamangreat Charge...
I mean Floowandereze was very successful with the Wind one maybe Salad could go that Route with the Fire Statue...
At least it can play savage or baronne 😂
Interesting the Salamangreat Synchro is a Gryphon (reminds me of Windy using avian monsters like Griffins, as well as being defeated by the Synchro Monster of Revolver). And I never noticed this until the reveal of Burst Gryphon, but a lot of the Salamangreat monsters that are Special Summoned are somewhat creatures of flight: Burst Gryphon, Emerald Eagle, Blaze Dragon (Miragestallio has flame wings & Violet Chimera has somewhat of flaming wing-blades;), and Pyro & Raging Phoenix {and Heatleo sorta has like wing-like armor}
Thisis so rqndom youre just nitpicking monsters. Wolf, Bale, Spinny, Jaguqr, Gqzelle, Meer, Mole etc etc are all normal animals. Its just thqt bqsicqlly every animal is represented so youll get some flying ones
So the best cards from this pack are the volcanics.
Good job man
Well, at least they certainly didn't turn it into a one card cyberse pile.
Horse Prince is a card, which is nifty.
I like how everyone thought these cards suck when they were revealed but now some of these cards are actually crazy like the link 4.
These cards give Salamangreat some fun tools to play with, but none of them do anything the deck didn't already do.
FIre fist horse prince is lowkey a nutty card in new sald
the weasil is used for firelock with gozen match
Copium Take salad Charge + runick
In 2023 Yugioh, a card is not considered good if it doesn't have an element where we can bully opponent, like do not make them play. It is a shame.
Spinny gazelle is a 2 card rage roar by using the roars eff to set itself
Spinny normal, bale into chain gazelle (dump roar), revive spinny into splash mage (effect) into heatsoul draw 1, into phoenix double link grab rage and set roar into nib?
You can get a barrier statue or any other unfair guy from your GY with Burst Gryphon, if you can consistently mill it, it is a generic reborn on your opponents standby. Is this fun though?? Probably not!
Using Salamangreat wheesel is the set up for fusion of fire to Summon violet chimera and a good use for burning draw if you give your opponent a link monster. Am I the only person that sees the potential of the new Salamangreats?
Burning Draw only works if they control more cards than you do. You're not the only one who has thought of these things, they just aren't very good compared to what Salad can already do.
It's very good support... For infernoble 😂
Nice thousand island dressing for that salad !!!! *{::>_
Tier 2 forsure. Unless final card is busted
I think the trap card could have had "If you control a Salamangreat Fusion/Syncro/XYZs/Link monster that was summoned using that monster as its entire material, you can play this card from the hand" and been a good archetype specific "Reborn" as well as "finisher" using it to swing with that 2800 ATK (bumped up to 5600 ATK) new link-4. Instead, it's "maybe a 1-of I can pitch into the GY for the 2nd effect later" card...
Salad can now search Ash Blossom with Horse Prince
scythe not banned in master duel tho so when this comes out could be sick
The synchro is good for as a one of for an extender but wouldn't go into a second one😊
you are turning 2 monsters into 2 other monsters that get linked off and play more into nib.
@Luminous the deck regardless plays into nib besides nib is format dependant so it depends on how the format looks when the support comes out
Formud skipper for the link 4. And inferno reckless summoning for the first card
hope the last monster is strong 👀
It will always be salaman average habibi
It's alright something, but nothing busted, maybe if splashed in something else
The problems here are two fold. The pay offs (link and Synchro) are underpower and lack protection. The trap sucks. The MD monsters are quite alright, but teeger is useless with out a better pay off.
The other problem is that SG players want it to be Mathmechs instead of what the deck currently is.
I really wish the the ED monsters were better.
i disagree. it cant get any better than being able to pop 4 cards or effectively have soul charge in your corner. i agree that it lacks protection, but i think that is what the revive effect is for. you can just summon this guy back. and if you have a 3rd copy, you are guarantied a follow-up next turn.
@@jeremiahriley663 I know, I just....I don't know man, even a non traditunal dodge like effect would help the link monster. The synchro....not só much. It needed more omph
Letting salad get both rage and roar is pretty big. Only question is how well salad can make a link 4 without using non-fire monsters.
@@jonatassilva2605tbf. i dont think they really need any more protection when balelynx exists though.
@@jeremiahriley663 The revive effect does not do anything against nib though. You do have the option to make baronne or Savage now, but I think the consistency of that option depends on the last main deck monster
Just use formud Skipper
Salamangreat players in my friend groupe are hyped but I feel like thos support is ass
Just play Formud Skipper and Mathmech Circular and you're good.
Let's face it: the support is bad and salad won't be any better
i think the lv5 is the best,
The engines are good, spell/trap is mid and the extra deck monsters are very disappointing
The link 4 is fine but the synchro is wired
They could ban everything good from the last 3 years and unlimit Gazelle, still wouldnt be good. More rogue players coping
The cards are alright, but what Salads need is a Mathmech package.
And Gazelle to 3
I was hoping salad would drop the gimmick of having to play two copies of the same card to use all there effects but i guess not. Its like almost Gemini monsters having to summon twice.
Just let us relink more then once or not lock us into fire, cyberse, and/or salamangreats. It doesn't seem that broken when compared to the decks in the meta rn, or in the past year or two.
THE SYNCHRO DOESNT EVEN SUPPORT SALAMANGREAT. IT SUPPORTS RED DRAGON ARCHFIEND
Yeah because locking you into fires is really good in red dragon archfiend 🙄
Salamanmid
SalaMid
salads most unique mechanic is the reason it's bad XD the relinks just means your extra deck is clogged XD
the synchro can be bzsted, if you play nadir servant. put a strong boss monster to the grave and special summon it
you have no idea how this game works do you
@@astogram4321 what you mean? You summon the synchro and after that you use nadir. Then in the standby you summon the discarded monster. Would be probably not good but it was just an idea
You can't summon an extra deck monster from grave unless it was properly summoned first.
@@averagejoe9229 a shit, forgot aboit that psrt of the game xd
Yeah ... after this whole stuff we'll be always ending up with a Nibiru token on the field :\
It's 2023. If it doesn't at least negate, it's not worth it.
this is just not true. plenty of the newer and more powerful decks can do a lot more than just negate. a lot of the new decks at least have some form of removal. flipping cards face down has also become a lot more popular as of late because of decks like kashtira and spright. the fact that the new link 4 gives salamangreat the ability to pop up to 4 cards as well as set an omni negate mid combo should be more than enough to keep the deck going.
@@jeremiahriley663 Yes, but they have become so strong because they have ways to prevent the opponent from playing. The banishing Is not kashtira's strong point, it's the zone locking. And spright got where It went because of stuff like toad. Opponent lockdown Is now more than ever the goal of any competent deck. A boss Monster to be good has to move towards doing that. This is not a combo piece, this is a level 8 synchro, It competes with stuff like borrel savage. The link 4 competes with all the good generic link 4 in the game. See where the problem lies?
@@jeremiahriley663 and trust me, I WANT for something other than opponent lockdown to be viable, but it's just how the game has shaped up to be in the last decade. It's the most efficient way to win, and if you don't do it, you just risk yourself to be otkd next turn.
First!
Im rather disappointed
People thinking relink is a unique and cool mechanic is the funniest shit ever to me considering you could have all your mid effects from the Start 😂
Slaman"mid"
these are awful...what are you saying??
What was he wrong about? He said these do not make the deck competitive but they are not trash and some are even quite good like the link 4.
@@averagejoe9229 no they are trash
We’re still missing a salad card so don’t judge the support yet. Wheesel is busted and raging phoenix is also ridiculous because now you play transcendence for an additional reincarnation link. Also phoenix makes rage a pop 4.
This salad support is broken
you can summon pyro phoenix using trancendence during the opponents turn to get a quick and dirty board wipe as well as a spell/trap bounce with heat leo. Raging phoenix brings a lot to the table here with the amount of tools that automatically because more accessable and playable.
Pyro Phoenix already made Rage a pop 4 and how exactly are you bringing out Pyro Phoenix after summoning Rage Phoenix to even utilize transcendence?!
Absolutely trash
None of those card are playable
Yeah i dont understand the Hype either