Jason - I have watched a couple of your videos and THIS ONE.. I have to say you really helped me out. That dang VFD has 185 setting you can configure (don't need all of them but they are there) and your video helped me get most all the ones I needed for my spindle. Just want you to know I would probably still be scratching my head if it were not for this video. Thanks man.
Wow, awesome video. I'm still in the setup mode for my Onefinity. I'm going to be running a 220v 2.2kw HY VFD with a 1.5kw spindle. I laid everything out and scratched my head, this video cleared up a lot -- THANK YOU!
Jason - it's me again! I have reset the HuanYang VFD to factory settings. I have gone through and set up the parameters for my 1F controller, I have set the incoming power parameters and the parameters for my HY spindle. I have done continuity checks on all the pins and my wiring; wrung it out to ensure that wires are on the right pins. Shielded cable is also grounded to the VFD. Here's what I'm running: VFD - HY02D211B (110v, 2.2KW) Spindle - GDZ-80-2.2C(4) 80x238, 110v-400Hz, 2.2Kw, 24000 RPM (water-cooled) Input voltage is 120v on a dedicated 12/2 from a 20A breaker (home-run) When I power up everything and do a, "M3 S12000" or any RPM, the spindle starts turning and runs up to around 900 or so RPM (I used a laser tach to verify) then it stops. I get a A.o.A error on the VFD. I can stop it, do it again and get the same results. Full disclosure: I haven't hooked up the water yet as I wanted to at least get the thing turning briefly before I ran all the coolant lines. It has never spun up over 1000 RPM's. I realize you don't like giving out params for folks as every situation is different. That's not on you. I went through this video several times and still can't figure out what's up. Could use your thoughts, when you have time to think. I can message you on FB in the 1F group if you want me to run through my params?
Did you message me on FB? There’s probably 2 accounts that show up for me. One was hacked and I can’t get back into it. I had to create a new account and the picture you should see is me in my work uniform sitting in my golf cart smoking a cigarette. 😂
Thank you Stewart for the video. I agree to set the OneFinity minimum speed to 0 to make sure the spindle turns. But you can limit the minimum speed by setting PD11. I set mine to 240 = 7200. If you try to program anything less than 7200 the spindle will turn on and run at 7200.
I enjoyed doing it. I just want people to not feel intimidated to hop on the VFD & SPINDLE train. Yes the standard trim router works, but a spindle and full automation of rpm control really makes it so much better of an experience.
Thanks Jason! I have been having fits getting my 220 v spindle going. Lots of great info whether you bvb are using the 110 or 220 version. I found your tutorial on the touch probe especially helpful.
I watched many videos and still couldn't get a complete understanding until I wash yours thank you one question though Jason can you share a link where you got your cable
HI Jason, great content for sure. I have two questions. One I wanted to clarify something about the ground for the spindle (for the touch probe to work without the magnet lead). This is a separate ground wire and NOT the other end of the cable shielding correct? I assume that as I know from my communications days that you cannot ground both ends of a shield on a RS485 cable or you will create a ground loop but I was not sure if there was a 4th wire (ground wire) running in that cable from the VFD to the spindle. Do you also need to run a ground wire between the pin 4 on the spindle to the spindle case? I think that is what you were saying but I am not 100% sure. 2.) Do you know where I can find information on the "sizing of the spindle" in terms of KWs? Say I was using 200V and not limited by amperage, is there any advantage to going to something greater than a 1.5Kw? Does it strictly relate to the material you are cutting or are there practical structural limits to the Onefinity even with a Z20 and a "Stiffy" component? Trying to wrap my head around this before I purchase a spindle. Cheers John
Jason, Thank you for the video, helped me a lot, I was told by an electrician that I should put my VFD in a cabinet that is ventilated along with conditioner to reduce electrical noise, What is your opinion. Steve
Iam going to watch your vid again { great job } but I am trying to refigure the best grounding system. I have a 110v chinese spindle and of course the 4th pin goes nowhere. I still soldered my ground wire to it from my shielded cable.. I seen where the other end can be connected to the same ground as the 110v hot line to the VFD. I have seen posts where people have grounded there machine directly to an earth ground in a wall outlet. Does the spindle and machine still need to be grounded ? Thanks
Did you actually pop the cover off and solder a short ground wire to pin 4 inside the spindle and find a way to router that wire to somewhere that connects the the metal of the spindle body? I know some say just ground the machine itself because everything is metal and since the spindle is metal it’ll all be grounded. I can see that being a legitimate solution.....BUT.....you have anodized aluminum parts so that’s a coating that could potentially cause grounding issues. Also you have bearings and oil or grease in the moveable parts of each axis so that’s just a lot of things the ground has to hopefully make a solid connection with back to earth ground. That’s why I prefer actually connecting the ground inside the spindle to ensure it’s ACTUALLY got a pathway back to earth ground.
@@jasonstewart5942 Sorry for the delay. Yes I soldered a grd wire to the 4th pin and ran it to the outside of the spindle , attached with copper tape. I cut a small channel on top of the spindle for the wire to lay in coming out of the connector plate. Hope this makes sense.
Nice Video, I have not ordered the Onefinity yet. I am trying to decide if I want to have a 220v outlet put in my garage to dedicate to the CNC as I feel I want to put a 2.2KW spindle on it. I see yours is 2.2kw 110V is there a performance difference or an installation benefit to go 110v instead of 220v? I am a complete noob and know nothing yet about CNC, electronics, or really even woodworking yet, but I hope my 56-year-old mind can learn. It is my dream to start a small sign and clock business to earn an extra $500-$900 a month income after expenses. More than that and I risk losing my social security.
@@underfeated0811 double shielded 22 awg 2 wire. I purchased it on eBay from len1007 20ft for $32. He was very good at answering any questions about vfds and spindles.
Speaking of being a beginner. I know of a guy who electrocuted himself by doing what you're doing. He was explaining the workings of an RF amplifier. Granted it had voltages in the 3KV range. He was pointing things out with his pencil like you are, and the lead /graphite in the pencil was a perfect conductor of that 3KV right you his hand. Enough to kill him. Just saying.
When I added a breakout board to the 1F controller it says to use 2 wires to RS - AND rs +. There is a place for a ground wire that could go from the breakout board to the VFD. Can I hook this up ?
Sent you this on Facebook but I suppose it works here. Not sure how often you're in FB. I've been watching your videos and have been configuring a stinkin' Huanyang VFD. I'm a geek woodworker and have done my fair share of soldering and micro-miniature repair (Navy Vet - I was a twidget meaning I was in a tech field instead of Engineering). Looking at all the info I can find, seems that Pd144 on the VFD should be set to 3600 to achieve 24000 on the spindle. 3000 is the setting at 50Hz and 3600 at 60Hz. Or is going to matter that much? Thanks for your time and attention. Thanks for your videos too! They've cost me $$$. Yeah...I bought the Fanttik stuff and a couple of the little voltage modules. I'm running a 1F and am fitting it with the Huanyang 80mm, 110v 400Hz spindle. Had to swap out the crappy pot metal aviation plug for a better plug.
Jason you seem to be the guy when it comes to setting up the VFD for the Onefinity. Well I installed my Huanyang 110v 2.2kw water cooled spindle this weekend. Having an issue with an error on the VFD and can't seem to find any information regarding what this error is and how to trouble shoot it. The error is EoA.A. Can you point me towards a fix for this? The spindle turns on using the Onefinity control with MDI but only spins slowly for a short time then the VFD errors.
yes I have a 1F. I set all of the settings are set according to yours and I still cant get the spindle to start . I go to MDI enter m3f12000 and nothing happens. The only parimiter I couldnt set higher was pm142 for amps. It would only go up to 7 and my spindle says it is an 8amp. Kinda lost at this point.
As far as pd142 I keep hearing that some of the VFD's only go to a certain amperage setting which is odd especially if they created a package deal where you can buy the spindle and vfd together. If the spindle says 8 amps and your max is 7 amps then all I can say is set it for the max of 7 amps.
My grasp on circuits and electric current is very basic so forgive the rookie questions: Looks like you only have 2 inputs coming from the wall outlet (R and S) an outlet has 3 terminals, pos, gnd, neutral. Which two are you hooking up to R and S? Don't you need to have something running from the ground prong in the wall outlet to a vfd terminal? Are you using a different cable from wall to vfd than from vfd to spindle? (that would explain only having the two wires R/S) could you just walk me through terminal assignment from left to right? I know these questions are ridiculous just trying to get a better grasp on everything
Yeah you’re overthinking it. Honestly I’m probably going to delete this video as it was more intended as a “this is how easy it is to connect a VFD & spindle “ to the Onefinity cnc controller. It wasn’t as focused on “this is how you wire input power and output spindle power”. Also in terms of line voltage you have hot legs, neutral, and ground. For 120v you typically have black (hot), white (neutral), green (ground). For 240v it’s two hot legs (possibly black and white, maybe black & black, maybe black and red, etc) and a green (ground). For 240v don’t let it confuse you, just know that there’s two hot legs and a ground wire.
Sorry for all the questions. Iam slowly getting it figured out. But are all or most of the HY 110v 1.5k spindles 2 pole ? Or how can I find out. The default is 4 pole.in the book.
PD141 = 110 (that is of course if you have the 110v version like you said) PD142 = THE AMPERAGE ETCHED ON THE SIDE OF THE SPINDLE BODY PD143 = 2 POLE PD144 = 3000
Nice video Jason! Very helpful. I have a couple of questions from an old person, but newbie to the spindle world. How do you wire the dynamic breaking resistor? How did you wire the ground on the spindle?
There should be a location between the input power and spindle output power to hook up a dynamic breaking resistor. I think it's labeled pB. As far as grounding the spindle you gotta pop the top cover off and see if they have a wire soldered to pin 4 which most likely won't be. You'd have to solder a wire to it and then get creative on where to get that wire to make continuity to the spindle body. The air cooled are a little harder. I used maybe a 20-22awg wire and ran it out through the fan housing and have the bare wire wrapped around one of the screws that fasten the fan cover down. The water cooled have like 3 screws inside the housing that you can use to wire that pin 4 too.
Grounding 101 After adding a wire to the 4 pin and attaching it to the screw, do you add an independent wire to the screw and run it back to the VFD’s earth connection?
By adding a wire to pin 4 INSIDE the spindle and attaching it to somewhere on the body of the spindle that IS your ground back to earth. That is of course if you also add a wire to pin 4 on the aviation connector that plugs into the spindle.
are you using connectors on the end of the wires in the VFD or is it just the wire? i am setting mine up and and trying to figure out which connectors I need for the wire ends. I will definitely be referencing this video when I start programing mine.
I really like that connector on your spindle! I have a similar setup as you (mine is 110v 2.2kw but watercooled) and was wondering where you purchased that connector and if you have the specific part # it would be greatly appreciated! Also, you say you arent using the stock controller anymore, care to share what you are using with your Onefinity now? -TIA
Now this is the connector I used, but mine is air cooled and I still had to modify the fan shroud piece of the spindle because the mounting holes weren't exactly the same. So really it depends on what your current aviation connector looks like to make sure you get something similar.
About to wire up y 220v Huanyang VFD and spindle. Bought the cable, recommended by you from Automation Direct. Question, on the crimp spade connectors, what gauge did you use for connecting in the VFD, thanks?
Jason, Very helpful, Thank you. I purchase the 220v 1.5k air cooled spindle. I purchased 16/4 double shielded cable from Automationdirect, but it measures over .500" OD, and there is no way it will fit into the connector on the spindle. It is different than the one that you supplied a link for. Could you tell me what the outside diameter of the cable that you used measures? Also could you provide a link for the aviation connector that you used. I was order #38 for the Onefinity and just recently got it set up and running. Currently using the Makita router. Thanks again!
Nice video Jason!! Couple of questions. When you shutdown the spindle quickly, are you getting any heat up of it? Do you have a resistor on the braking system? What is the tape on the collet shaft for? Can you share a link for the cable you used?
When stopping the spindle at a lower deceleration rate I haven't noticed any excessive heat. I do however have a dynamic breaking resistor I am going to be using. I just didn't have it hooked up for this video. The reflective tape on the spindle was me using my tachometer to just verify the spindle RPM.
I have set up my Huanyang spindle and Onefinity controller, your video was very informative. Everything worked fine, I shut down for last night and restarted today. It will not take a manual input all of a sudden and runs at maximum rpm on any tool path speed that is fed to it. I am now rechecking all settings in both the controller and VFD. Do you have any idea what might have changed?
Judging by what you are saying it almost sounds like you maybe forgot to set the MAXIMUM RPM for the spindle in the TOOL tab to 24000 RPM maybe? Because if it's set for the default of I wanna say it's 255 then anything you enter in for spindle RPM above 255 would make it run full speed.
@@jasonstewart5942 Max is set to 2400. Went to MDI tab and ran a "M3 S1200" and entered ran up to 24000. tried 10000, then 15000, then 8000 and rpm same result 24000. Rechecked both VFD and Onefinity setting and all are correct. Have reset pd 001 to "1" and got the VFD dial to work properly. I ran a vectric tool path with a 10000 rpm setting, the saved G-code shows 10000, but the spindle spped runs up to 24000. The control screen shows the speed correctly but followed by 24000 in parenthesis.
Good job Jason. And timely. I’m just setting mine up. Only difference is my spindle is the 1.5kw 220v. What gauge vfd cable did you use and where did you get it. I ordered a sheilded vfd cable but all 4 wires are the same color plus it looks bigger than what I can fit a lug on to attach to the connectors on the VFD.
Wires colors honestly don't matter as long as you make sure whatever wire you choose to be used as pin #4 (gnd) is not mixed and accidentally used as one of the 3 phase hot legs of power.
Here's two videos to review. I think you'll like the outcome. Watch this first th-cam.com/video/fZ0r1YEBMNQ/w-d-xo.html This one is the second part. th-cam.com/video/k2Cq_7wfmFg/w-d-xo.html Thank you, Vince
Jason, thank you so much for this video and allowing us non-spindle electrical gurus to understand. Great video.
Jason - I have watched a couple of your videos and THIS ONE.. I have to say you really helped me out. That dang VFD has 185 setting you can configure (don't need all of them but they are there) and your video helped me get most all the ones I needed for my spindle. Just want you to know I would probably still be scratching my head if it were not for this video. Thanks man.
Awesome man. Good to hear. Yeah there's very minimal settings that WE actually need to change.
Wow, awesome video. I'm still in the setup mode for my Onefinity. I'm going to be running a 220v 2.2kw HY VFD with a 1.5kw spindle. I laid everything out and scratched my head, this video cleared up a lot -- THANK YOU!
Awesome man. Glad to hear I was able to help.
Jason - it's me again! I have reset the HuanYang VFD to factory settings. I have gone through and set up the parameters for my 1F controller, I have set the incoming power parameters and the parameters for my HY spindle. I have done continuity checks on all the pins and my wiring; wrung it out to ensure that wires are on the right pins. Shielded cable is also grounded to the VFD. Here's what I'm running:
VFD - HY02D211B (110v, 2.2KW)
Spindle - GDZ-80-2.2C(4) 80x238, 110v-400Hz, 2.2Kw, 24000 RPM (water-cooled)
Input voltage is 120v on a dedicated 12/2 from a 20A breaker (home-run)
When I power up everything and do a, "M3 S12000" or any RPM, the spindle starts turning and runs up to around 900 or so RPM (I used a laser tach to verify) then it stops. I get a A.o.A error on the VFD. I can stop it, do it again and get the same results. Full disclosure: I haven't hooked up the water yet as I wanted to at least get the thing turning briefly before I ran all the coolant lines. It has never spun up over 1000 RPM's. I realize you don't like giving out params for folks as every situation is different. That's not on you. I went through this video several times and still can't figure out what's up. Could use your thoughts, when you have time to think. I can message you on FB in the 1F group if you want me to run through my params?
Yeah message me on Facebook messenger please.
Did you message me on FB? There’s probably 2 accounts that show up for me. One was hacked and I can’t get back into it. I had to create a new account and the picture you should see is me in my work uniform sitting in my golf cart smoking a cigarette. 😂
Thank you Stewart for the video. I agree to set the OneFinity minimum speed to 0 to make sure the spindle turns. But you can limit the minimum speed by setting PD11. I set mine to 240 = 7200. If you try to program anything less than 7200 the spindle will turn on and run at 7200.
Great post Jason, Only one of it's kind I found specific to the OneFinity. Thank You...
I enjoyed doing it. I just want people to not feel intimidated to hop on the VFD & SPINDLE train. Yes the standard trim router works, but a spindle and full automation of rpm control really makes it so much better of an experience.
Great video!! Thanks for doin this, greatly appreciate! Nick Nofsinger turned me on to ya. That dudes awesome as well!
Thanks Jason! I have been having fits getting my 220 v spindle going. Lots of great info whether you bvb are using the 110 or 220 version. I found your tutorial on the touch probe especially helpful.
I watched many videos and still couldn't get a complete understanding until I wash yours thank you one question though Jason can you share a link where you got your cable
This was very very helpful! Thanks.
Thank you for posting.
Great video! Thanks for taking the time to explain this! (New subscriber here)
Hi Jason I really appreciate your help I have a question if you can give me the link to the aviation connector you use thank you
JASON, thanks for putting together these videos. Any recommendations on a spindle motor.? I was going to install a 1.5kw spindle thanks again
HI Jason, great content for sure. I have two questions. One I wanted to clarify something about the ground for the spindle (for the touch probe to work without the magnet lead). This is a separate ground wire and NOT the other end of the cable shielding correct? I assume that as I know from my communications days that you cannot ground both ends of a shield on a RS485 cable or you will create a ground loop but I was not sure if there was a 4th wire (ground wire) running in that cable from the VFD to the spindle. Do you also need to run a ground wire between the pin 4 on the spindle to the spindle case? I think that is what you were saying but I am not 100% sure. 2.) Do you know where I can find information on the "sizing of the spindle" in terms of KWs? Say I was using 200V and not limited by amperage, is there any advantage to going to something greater than a 1.5Kw? Does it strictly relate to the material you are cutting or are there practical structural limits to the Onefinity even with a Z20 and a "Stiffy" component? Trying to wrap my head around this before I purchase a spindle. Cheers John
Jason, Thank you for the video, helped me a lot, I was told by an electrician that I should put my VFD in a cabinet that is ventilated along with conditioner to reduce electrical noise, What is your opinion. Steve
Iam going to watch your vid again { great job } but I am trying to refigure the best grounding system. I have a 110v chinese spindle and of course the 4th pin goes nowhere. I still soldered my ground wire to it from my shielded cable.. I seen where the other end can be connected to the same ground as the 110v hot line to the VFD. I have seen posts where people have grounded there machine directly to an earth ground in a wall outlet. Does the spindle and machine still need to be grounded ? Thanks
Did you actually pop the cover off and solder a short ground wire to pin 4 inside the spindle and find a way to router that wire to somewhere that connects the the metal of the spindle body? I know some say just ground the machine itself because everything is metal and since the spindle is metal it’ll all be grounded. I can see that being a legitimate solution.....BUT.....you have anodized aluminum parts so that’s a coating that could potentially cause grounding issues. Also you have bearings and oil or grease in the moveable parts of each axis so that’s just a lot of things the ground has to hopefully make a solid connection with back to earth ground. That’s why I prefer actually connecting the ground inside the spindle to ensure it’s ACTUALLY got a pathway back to earth ground.
@@jasonstewart5942 Sorry for the delay. Yes I soldered a grd wire to the 4th pin and ran it to the outside of the spindle , attached with copper tape. I cut a small channel on top of the spindle for the wire to lay in coming out of the connector plate. Hope this makes sense.
Good job Jason!
Thank you sir.
Damn You saved the day. Thats my bad ears for ya ! Thanks a million 1
Hahaha. No problem man. Glad I could help.
OK ...found out my cable is shielded not double shielded. Thats probably why I didnt see the other wire along with the 4 wires. Only saw the foil.
Nice Video, I have not ordered the Onefinity yet. I am trying to decide if I want to have a 220v outlet put in my garage to dedicate to the CNC as I feel I want to put a 2.2KW spindle on it. I see yours is 2.2kw 110V is there a performance difference or an installation benefit to go 110v instead of 220v? I am a complete noob and know nothing yet about CNC, electronics, or really even woodworking yet, but I hope my 56-year-old mind can learn. It is my dream to start a small sign and clock business to earn an extra $500-$900 a month income after expenses. More than that and I risk losing my social security.
What type of wire should I use to go between the vfd to the breakout board ? Thank you
hey, did you ever find out?
@@underfeated0811 double shielded 22 awg 2 wire. I purchased it on eBay from len1007 20ft for $32. He was very good at answering any questions about vfds and spindles.
You did fine,I just ordered a spindle from china,well see,thanks.
Speaking of being a beginner. I know of a guy who electrocuted himself by doing what you're doing. He was explaining the workings of an RF amplifier. Granted it had voltages in the 3KV range. He was pointing things out with his pencil like you are, and the lead /graphite in the pencil was a perfect conductor of that 3KV right you his hand. Enough to kill him. Just saying.
I am new to this can someone tell me why the pwn is so expensive when it look just like this one?
When I added a breakout board to the 1F controller it says to use 2 wires to RS - AND rs +. There is a place for a ground wire that could go from the breakout board to the VFD. Can I hook this up ?
All you need to hook up to control the VFD from the breakout board is pin 13 (RS485+) and pin 14 (RS485-).
Sent you this on Facebook but I suppose it works here. Not sure how often you're in FB. I've been watching your videos and have been configuring a stinkin' Huanyang VFD. I'm a geek woodworker and have done my fair share of soldering and micro-miniature repair (Navy Vet - I was a twidget meaning I was in a tech field instead of Engineering). Looking at all the info I can find, seems that Pd144 on the VFD should be set to 3600 to achieve 24000 on the spindle. 3000 is the setting at 50Hz and 3600 at 60Hz. Or is going to matter that much? Thanks for your time and attention. Thanks for your videos too! They've cost me $$$. Yeah...I bought the Fanttik stuff and a couple of the little voltage modules. I'm running a 1F and am fitting it with the Huanyang 80mm, 110v 400Hz spindle. Had to swap out the crappy pot metal aviation plug for a better plug.
PD144 needs to be set to 3000
That’s what I have right now. Going to also throw a tachometer on the spindle to verify. Thanks, man.
Jason you seem to be the guy when it comes to setting up the VFD for the Onefinity. Well I installed my Huanyang 110v 2.2kw water cooled spindle this weekend. Having an issue with an error on the VFD and can't seem to find any information regarding what this error is and how to trouble shoot it. The error is EoA.A. Can you point me towards a fix for this? The spindle turns on using the Onefinity control with MDI but only spins slowly for a short time then the VFD errors.
yes I have a 1F. I set all of the settings are set according to yours and I still cant get the spindle to start . I go to MDI enter m3f12000 and nothing happens. The only parimiter I couldnt set higher was pm142 for amps. It would only go up to 7 and my spindle says it is an 8amp. Kinda lost at this point.
M3 S not F
As far as pd142 I keep hearing that some of the VFD's only go to a certain amperage setting which is odd especially if they created a package deal where you can buy the spindle and vfd together. If the spindle says 8 amps and your max is 7 amps then all I can say is set it for the max of 7 amps.
My grasp on circuits and electric current is very basic so forgive the rookie questions:
Looks like you only have 2 inputs coming from the wall outlet (R and S) an outlet has 3 terminals, pos, gnd, neutral. Which two are you hooking up to R and S? Don't you need to have something running from the ground prong in the wall outlet to a vfd terminal? Are you using a different cable from wall to vfd than from vfd to spindle? (that would explain only having the two wires R/S) could you just walk me through terminal assignment from left to right? I know these questions are ridiculous just trying to get a better grasp on everything
After looking up some stuff, looks like you just left out the "null line" which I'm guessing is the neutral line?
Yeah you’re overthinking it. Honestly I’m probably going to delete this video as it was more intended as a “this is how easy it is to connect a VFD & spindle “ to the Onefinity cnc controller. It wasn’t as focused on “this is how you wire input power and output spindle power”. Also in terms of line voltage you have hot legs, neutral, and ground. For 120v you typically have black (hot), white (neutral), green (ground). For 240v it’s two hot legs (possibly black and white, maybe black & black, maybe black and red, etc) and a green (ground). For 240v don’t let it confuse you, just know that there’s two hot legs and a ground wire.
Sorry for all the questions. Iam slowly getting it figured out. But are all or most of the HY 110v 1.5k spindles 2 pole ? Or how can I find out. The default is 4 pole.in the book.
It’s 2 pole.
PD141 = 110 (that is of course if you have the 110v version like you said)
PD142 = THE AMPERAGE ETCHED ON THE SIDE OF THE SPINDLE BODY
PD143 = 2 POLE
PD144 = 3000
Thanks for all of the great info. Very informative video.
Where do I set the little jumper to ? Left side or right ? Thanks again.
If you are using a onefinity you shouldn't have to mess with it. Leave it default on the right side.
nice video, how are you adapting the 2.2 spindle to the 65mm spindle mount on the onefinity?
I'm not. That's a 1.5kw spindle. I'm just using a 2.2kw VFD on the 1.5kw spindle.
Nice video Jason! Very helpful. I have a couple of questions from an old person, but newbie to the spindle world.
How do you wire the dynamic breaking resistor?
How did you wire the ground on the spindle?
There should be a location between the input power and spindle output power to hook up a dynamic breaking resistor. I think it's labeled pB. As far as grounding the spindle you gotta pop the top cover off and see if they have a wire soldered to pin 4 which most likely won't be. You'd have to solder a wire to it and then get creative on where to get that wire to make continuity to the spindle body. The air cooled are a little harder. I used maybe a 20-22awg wire and ran it out through the fan housing and have the bare wire wrapped around one of the screws that fasten the fan cover down. The water cooled have like 3 screws inside the housing that you can use to wire that pin 4 too.
@@jasonstewart5942 Thanks Jason
Grounding 101
After adding a wire to the 4 pin and attaching it to the screw, do you add an independent wire to the screw and run it back to the VFD’s earth connection?
By adding a wire to pin 4 INSIDE the spindle and attaching it to somewhere on the body of the spindle that IS your ground back to earth. That is of course if you also add a wire to pin 4 on the aviation connector that plugs into the spindle.
are you using connectors on the end of the wires in the VFD or is it just the wire? i am setting mine up and and trying to figure out which connectors I need for the wire ends. I will definitely be referencing this video when I start programing mine.
They're called wire ferrules. You can get a kit on Amazon with the crimp tool for cheap. Like $20
@@jasonstewart5942 Thanks one other question for ya. What gage of wire are you using from the controller to the breakout box.
Probably the biggest you can fit would be 18awg but you can use smaller if ya want. It just needs to be able to send communication back & fourth.
can you tell me where you got the spindle, is it a 65mm to fit into the onefinity?
Yes it's an air cooled 65mm 1.5kw 110v. I got it off Aliexpress.
I really like that connector on your spindle! I have a similar setup as you (mine is 110v 2.2kw but watercooled) and was wondering where you purchased that connector and if you have the specific part # it would be greatly appreciated! Also, you say you arent using the stock controller anymore, care to share what you are using with your Onefinity now? -TIA
www.amazon.com/dp/B087N342RV?ref=ppx_pop_mob_ap_share
Now this is the connector I used, but mine is air cooled and I still had to modify the fan shroud piece of the spindle because the mounting holes weren't exactly the same. So really it depends on what your current aviation connector looks like to make sure you get something similar.
As far as the controller I switched to its the Openbuilds Black Box controller from Openbuildspartstore.com
About to wire up y 220v Huanyang VFD and spindle. Bought the cable, recommended by you from Automation Direct. Question, on the crimp spade connectors, what gauge did you use for connecting in the VFD, thanks?
It’s 16awg wire so they need to be able to accept 16awg.
@@jasonstewart5942 Thanks
Do you have part numbers for the cable, spindle, and VFD
Jason, Very helpful, Thank you. I purchase the 220v 1.5k air cooled spindle. I purchased 16/4 double shielded cable from Automationdirect, but it measures over .500" OD, and there is no way it will fit into the connector on the spindle. It is different than the one that you supplied a link for. Could you tell me what the outside diameter of the cable that you used measures? Also could you provide a link for the aviation connector that you used. I was order #38 for the Onefinity and just recently got it set up and running. Currently using the Makita router. Thanks again!
Also, what gage wire did you use for the communication wire from the VFD to the Onefinity controller?
@@stevenhawley3189 www.amazon.com/dp/B087N342RV/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_0BBF6GP5SN5PKYWTN8EM?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
@@stevenhawley3189 www.automationdirect.com/adc/shopping/catalog/cables/bulk_multi-conductor_cable/continuous_flexing_control_cable/16_awg_shielded/cf6-15-04-1
The outer diameter of the cable I used that I just sent a link for is 0.37"
@@jasonstewart5942 Thank you! Just ordered the wire and connector. What wire did you use for communication from VFD to controller?
Nice video Jason!! Couple of questions. When you shutdown the spindle quickly, are you getting any heat up of it? Do you have a resistor on the braking system? What is the tape on the collet shaft for? Can you share a link for the cable you used?
When stopping the spindle at a lower deceleration rate I haven't noticed any excessive heat. I do however have a dynamic breaking resistor I am going to be using. I just didn't have it hooked up for this video. The reflective tape on the spindle was me using my tachometer to just verify the spindle RPM.
www.automationdirect.com/adc/shopping/catalog/cables/bulk_multi-conductor_cable/continuous_flexing_control_cable/16_awg_shielded/cf6-15-04-1
@@jasonstewart5942 what size resistor are you going to use?
@@bharkin1 This is what I bought. www.amazon.com/dp/B07C7R8VRJ/ref=cm_sw_r_cp_apa_fabc_VH73QR8YNQ46F1GW65KG?_encoding=UTF8&psc=1
@@jasonstewart5942 You might want to check with manufacturer as I dont believe you can use a Braking resistor with that VFD.
I have set up my Huanyang spindle and Onefinity controller, your video was very informative. Everything worked fine, I shut down for last night and restarted today. It will not take a manual input all of a sudden and runs at maximum rpm on any tool path speed that is fed to it. I am now rechecking all settings in both the controller and VFD. Do you have any idea what might have changed?
Hmmmmm. That's interesting. First I've heard of that happening. So what exactly do you mean by "will not take any manual input"?
Judging by what you are saying it almost sounds like you maybe forgot to set the MAXIMUM RPM for the spindle in the TOOL tab to 24000 RPM maybe? Because if it's set for the default of I wanna say it's 255 then anything you enter in for spindle RPM above 255 would make it run full speed.
@@jasonstewart5942 Max is set to 2400. Went to MDI tab and ran a "M3 S1200" and entered ran up to 24000. tried 10000, then 15000, then 8000 and rpm same result 24000. Rechecked both VFD and Onefinity setting and all are correct. Have reset pd 001 to "1" and got the VFD dial to work properly. I ran a vectric tool path with a 10000 rpm setting, the saved G-code shows 10000, but the spindle spped runs up to 24000. The control screen shows the speed correctly but followed by 24000 in parenthesis.
@@jasonstewart5942 it is set to 24000, still runs to man no matter what the gcode says
max not man
Good job Jason. And timely. I’m just setting mine up. Only difference is my spindle is the 1.5kw 220v. What gauge vfd cable did you use and where did you get it. I ordered a sheilded vfd cable but all 4 wires are the same color plus it looks bigger than what I can fit a lug on to attach to the connectors on the VFD.
www.automationdirect.com/adc/shopping/catalog/cables/bulk_multi-conductor_cable/continuous_flexing_control_cable/16_awg_shielded/cf6-15-04-1
Wires colors honestly don't matter as long as you make sure whatever wire you choose to be used as pin #4 (gnd) is not mixed and accidentally used as one of the 3 phase hot legs of power.
But I do suggest using that cable I provided a link for. It's only 0.37" in diameter and easier to work with an very flexible.
Thanks!
Thank u sir
Will you upgrade to the 80 mm and a 220 volt spindle?
Maybe, but as of right now no.
Here's two videos to review. I think you'll like the outcome.
Watch this first th-cam.com/video/fZ0r1YEBMNQ/w-d-xo.html
This one is the second part. th-cam.com/video/k2Cq_7wfmFg/w-d-xo.html
Thank you,
Vince