"What you're missing is this is a team sport. Teams win championships. You're only as good as the team can take you. So 3 and 5 means nothing." Thank you, Dr.J.
Christian Esposito You learn that while playing football. No matter how big/ strong you are, even a smaller guy can give you a a solid rocking to the chops. Respect everybody until they give you a reason not to.
If Erving entered NBA today, he would be the League's biggest star. Young folks have no clue how dominant he was. With open spread offense; he would simply go off and destroy the rim. 40 a night if he chose to.
Scott Davidson I love dr j but come on. You have to factor in evolution athletes today are way bigger stronger and faster. Go back and watch a 70s game. Any player today would dominate. That’s nothing against Dr. J you can’t really compare eras the more modern era will always have better athletes
@@chadwilliams2116 well you argue with Magic Johnson who said in 2013 in Julius' documentary that doc would do things in today's game nobody else can do you need to slow your roll buddy.
@Pastor of Muppets This is my same arguments. People unconsciously compares old players with their old nutrition and technologies against current players with advanced meds, diet and technology and call it 'evolution'.
@@sturkeliousrron4934 If he was marketed asuch as Jordan more would think twice about Jordan. Dr. J with different teammates on different teams won multiple championships.
Julius did answer the question, albeit a bit cryptic, it is clear he chooses Jordan but just doesn't want an argument about it. In this clip, at 3:02, he says "Lebron has done all and everything that anyone has ever done in the history of this league, and so did MIchael, and MIchael although maybe unfathomable, to a higher level, because he was 6-0 in the Finals and was Finals MVP every time." So yeah, he clearly says Jordan was "at a higher level" than Lebron.
@@pretty7995 When he was on the Miami Heat, he was a monster AND he played defense. I'm not biased when I say he's not playing defense and he's always stat padded. He's still a great player just not the best anymore
@@starkiller8677no its not what he said. He dodged and contradicted himself. He said its a team game so he is impress with more NBA finals appearances cause it takes a team to get there. But how can you say that and then in the same breath say it didn't matter if they lost all the finals as long as they get there? But he doesn't address the level of competition one has to go through to get there. The debate isn't about which team is better its about which player is better. So he dodged.
Even Skip recognizes the Classiness and greatness of Dr. J. anybody else he would have had a lot more to say, but he seemed to humble himself a little. that is rare for him..
Everything Erving said was straight facts. Its quite pointless to debate who is a greater player on a team from 2 completely different eras. Then there are only accomplishments that can measure a player but then that can be put into context like the Wilt-Russell argument, Wilt was way more dominant but never won. Then Kareem has the greatest accomplishments from longevity but was never the best player in the league. Then MJ was the most dominant then Shaq was but then they cannot be compared due to their positions. The Lebron comes in all round great but things would be a lot different in the 90s and 80s as the basketball was much different, like Lebrons scoring would go down but his defence would be better. Then theres Tim Duncan who was never the best player in the league but still the best pf all time. Its all just context and opinion. There is no true GOAT.
I truly liked what he said about being the best between " Jordan and LeBron " should be settled when LeBron has retired from the game. That's common sense, and most people don't have that. " Dr.J " is and has always been the real deal.
MJ - 15 seasons Bron - 14 Michael Jordan has: 3 more rings 3 more final mvps 1 more DPOY 1 more season MVP 9 more scoring titles 3 more steals leader 3 more all defensive team selections 4000 more points 800 more steals Beat 20 50+ win teams (Lebron only defeated 10) Jordan NEVER averaged less than 40% Field Goal in the finals Lebron did it twice lol. Had the biggest margin of defeat in NBA finals history. Oh and i forgot. 6/6. AND never allowed a game 7 Lebron had much more help Jordan never had a teammate averaged more than 22 points in the finals... Kyrie averaged over 28 and DWade averaged more than 26 MJ never ever had a finals meltdown like Lebron in 2011 against the Mavs MJ has more points in the playoffs in less games... Played in college while LeBron did not. So take away 2 years from lebron. All of this accomplished in 13 years. AND took a year off. Lebron is in his 14 still chasing the ghost that played in Chicago So how is the even close? people tryna say Lebron is better than Michael Jordan smh
And don't forget Kyrie got injured in 2015 and in 2017 kd came to the warriors big 4 in their primes vs LeBron and Kyrie everytime LeBron stepped out the court to rest for 2 minutes they have a 15 point lead and have to sub in LeBron back
Des T , You are right,7 likes, WTF. Jordan was the best. I've seen him in the 80s Bulls pre championship and randomly throughout his career, all the way up to Wizzards... He is the undisputable best. Great post Well said. Thank you
Man I love The Doc, he's such a class act and always answers questions eloquently and intelligently without disrepecting the game or the players, touch'e skip!!!😎
What about a thing called style! Come on people. Dr. j, kobe, jordan, magic, oscar, so so many great players with incredible style and moves...Lebron and westbrook are more like a 'fullback'... movement is a big part of how i judge the best.... anyone care to agree or disagree?
I completely agree....Basketball is entertainment....Doc was the most entertaining player ever, in my opinion ...that's how Dr. J really kept a stagnant league afloat, and increased it's popularity when he came in. He was the show...and as an individual he never disappointed. His style and creativity, on top of his great stats made him the # 1 marquee player in the league....I would rather watch the likes of Doc, Michael, Kobe, or Vince than the "fullback ", bull in a china shop type players.
Entertaining don't win games Ronaldinho was probably the more entertaining player of history in soccer, but if you want win a game you'll choose CR7 or Messi Allen Iverson and Tracy McGrady was more entertainers than LeBron, but if you want win a game you'll choose him
stratman 16 so you taking Ewing and Robinson over Shaq? Are you taking KG and Dirk over Duncan? Are you taking Doc over Lebron? Are you taking Iverson over Kobe?
@@l.a.6337 on the flip side, winning can do wonders for a team (think the New England Patriots, or the Boston Celtics if we're talking basketball), but if the overall league is not drawing in fans to watch the games, that's where the entertainment comes in. The Celtics were the Yankees of basketball with record titles won (to date, 18) and has a large number of players and coaches in the Naismith HOF, but the NBA was going stagnant. Enter the upstart league ABA, which brought a breath of fresh air and excitement, spearheaded by Dr J. When the two leagues merged, it was the Philadelphia 76ers who purchased Doc's contract from the Nets. He brought that excitement and electricity to a team, and a league, that sorely needed them. Soon, fans started coming out just to watch Doc play, specifically his legendary windmill dunks. And the All-Star game? He was a regular participant, especially in the dunking contest, which he'd won multiple times before being upset by Larry Nance, Sr. He also refreshed the rivalry between the Sixers and Celtics (with Larry Bird), then against the Lakers (with Kareem, Magic and company), winning the NBA title in 1983. He inspired a generation of players like Jordan, Wilkins, then Kobe and others to pick up a basketball and just put their own flair and flash on the game.
When you lose the title it's unfair to compare a 6-0 record to 4-10 record on the game that all player's are fighting to get to and win *MICHAEL JORDAN THE G.O.A.T.*
haha! Dr j. nailed that question about the championships. skip always credits jordan for those 6 titles. the bulls won those titles not jordan by himself. jordan was the best player and he was the most important player in the team but the team as a whole won those titles. teams win titles not individual players.
Yeah Lebron had a real bad Team in Miami when he lost vs Dallas. Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh are bad Teammates. MJ played with these Superstars like the prime Bill Cartwright, prime Robert Parrish, Luc Longley, Steve Kerr, John Paxson. Always a Team of Superstars. So Lebron is obv the Goat. 🤣
ITS NOT LIKE MJ IS TAKING ALL THE CREDIT FOR THE 6 RINGS HE GOT, WELL 6-0 FOR MJ BECAUSE HE WAS THE LEADER OF THE TEAM. I AM NOT SURE THOUGH IF LBJ SHOULD EVEN BE CONSIDERED THE LEADER OF THE HEATS BEING WADE ALREADY GOT A RING BEFORE LBJ EVEN JUMP SHIPS, NOT SURE IF HE WAS THE BIGGEST CONTRIBUTOR BUT ALL I KNOW ALLEN WON THEM ONE, AND IRVING WITH THE CAVS
Yes , but in context it was who was better......He without saying it said Jordan was better than LeBron . 6 of 6 championships , 6 championship mvp , never beat . Without Jordan , the bulls never win one championship . And today's game , Phil Jackson said in all candor , if Mike were to play in today's league you could easily pencil him in for scoring an ave 51 for his career and minimum 10 championships . Many players in history were great superstars , ....I'd consider Dr J the 2nd best player of all time behind MJ . No other player was able to make his teammates better like Mike , extracting the very best from.each one . And don't forget about clutch , nobody comes close to Jordan . Many players were very good in.The clutch , nobody like Mike . And those greats were not triple teamed and even quadrupled like Mike .
That was for Kobe, definitely not for Lebron (that already passed MJ, it's about Kareem), unless someone even better than Lebron or Kareem will show up, why not, it would be great and sight to see.
@@abdicolestudios8899 You can't be serious, or, at least, Brandon Ingram and other better players and leaders on his Pelicans team would make more sense vs Jordan than him (and I hope he doesn't end up a Greg Oden).
ehh to a certain extent...He said if he was 0-8 that would still be a great achievement but winning titles matters whether it is a team sport or not. He said its like making it to 8 super bowls. So tell me how many people think of the 90s bills when you talk about the greatest teams. Sure eventually their name will get brought up but going 0-4 takes them out of the convo. Winning matters. Jerry west 1-8 in the finals. If he was 5-3 he would be looked at completely differently. Yes he is the logo but he never gets mentioned when speaking of GOAT status.
I was speaking in general. Tell me how many people have west top 5....im not saying her wasn't great but You and I both know that if he has 5 rings he is a lot higher on people's list. Doesn't surprise me that Dr J would have him up there considering he just said finals records do not matter. I meant more so my the general public not a bball lifer
Julius Winfield Irving in my mind is one of the greatest who ever played the game of basketball not just his talents but his wisdom as an ambassador intelligent and know how to deal with the media and reporters should be without a doubt the commissioner
MJ was a different kind of man. He was so much more mentally tough than other players. He took the style of Dr. J the clutch from bird the toughness of Isiah and the flair of Magic and added it to his already incredible game. The guy was amazing and if you weren't around to live it then you won't get it all from old footage, but you can still tell even from that.
I think your "over-emphasizing". M.J. was "mentally tough" big whoop but you cant really clock that. He's the best winner because he had Scottie Pippen the best most level teammate of any sport probably ever. Without that chemistry no JORDAN as we know have come to know it
@@rts2465well he is doing Jordan stuff before his sidekicks but he wasn't winning anything. When he left his sidekicks were one bad call away from going to the finals. So both needed each other. MJ is a great basketball probably the greatest but no need to diss his team like that cause even he would tell you that he needed his team to win. Any great basketball player that won to the highest level would tell you that you need a team to win
An NBA player could never get you to the finals. You think a one man team can make playoffs and go all the way to the finals? It has always been a team sport
I wish we could just say there's alot of great player's and get over this who's the greatest argument. Every great player has done things other great players haven't done.and vice versa
Wilt is the greatest. He could not be stopped. He could stop anyone. Lebron, Jordon, Bird, Lou A, on and on would never been able to score in the paint. Absolutely the greatest of all time. He is a level above all the other all time greats
Dr. J is in the GOAT conversation himself, He Dominated his Era and was the guy that young kids dreamed about being like. His athletic style of play and unique creative abilities challenged the perceived limits of what was thought to be possible at that time. Dr. J in his physical prime could hold his own with anyone on a basketball court, regardless of era, stats, or NBA titles. Dr. J is the Godfather of modern basketball.
per Tong Zou "Its Wilt Chamberlain. most dominant player in NBA history. averaged 50 points in a game before. 70 unbroken NBA records. scored 100 points in a game. All time leading rebounder despite only playing 13 seasons. grabbed 55 rebounds in a game. averaged 45 minutes per game his whole CAREER when dudes these days cant even play 33 minutes a game for one season. Was a complete player offensively and defensively. Was able to block Kareem's skyhook when he was 35 and past knee surgery and Kareem was in his prime a young Buck. Humbled Magic in practice when he was 50+ years old. Probably the most athletic and strongest player ever to play." Absolutely true!
Im so tired of them putting LeBron on Jordan level. That not even a comparison. LeBron more like kobe then micheal. He haven't even passed kobe honestly.
LeBron more like kobe is a joke . THERE no way becsuse LeBron passes kobe don't. LeBron is the greatest all around player in the history, he's the goat
Watch Jordan's "Come Fly with Me", then tell me who has ever gone up against men almost a foot taller than themselves and DOMINATED with utter devastation. Lebron is great, but, I haven't seen him score, pass and defend with the authority that Michael displayed. Sorry if you don't agree.
As much as ive heard him, ive found DR J prolly the most intelligent in terms of his basketball knowledge. He wont give you direct answers to settle the debate for you would provide you with perspectives and sides to it for you to thikn of it in a better way on your own which is kinda special
Like Doctor J said, just wait until LeBron's career is done. People are talking about LeBron's 3-5 finals record compared to Jordan's 6-0 but it's completely different. LeBron's Eastern Conference going to the NBA Finals has been a lot easier than Jordan's, but LeBron has played better teams than Jordan when he has gotten to the finals.
Because his finals record, he puts up amazing regular season numbers but folds in the playoffs (think James Harden), his competition was severely inferior compared to players today.
I am from Philly and I remember when Dr. J first came here. He was INCREDIBLE!!!!! In my opinion, Dr. J was the best ambassador the NBA has ever had. He was so professional, so classy.
@Star Killer Just how is he more athletic? Wilt was a high jumper and ran 47 seconds in the 440 yd dash in hi tops on cinders. He is also in the pro volleyball hall of fame. LeBron James is 6'9" and weighs 250 not 260. Wilt was 7'1" & 276lbs.
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Who is the best player in NBA History?
Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED LeBron James
Skip and Shannon: UNDISPUTED mj
Elliot Parker lmaooo
Elliot Parker L
jordan is the GOAT end of discussion thats not even close
Dr.J looking like he in a movie being played by Denzel Washington
Was thinking same....damn...😂😂
Underrated comment😂
Very underrated comment. I want that movie made!
Haaaa!😄 Good one!👍
Dead! Now im waiting for the movie to hit.. lmfao
DR. J has never lost his dignity, integrity, and his hard won wisdom . Simply the greatest in my eyes. Luv ya, Doc.👏✌👍
Thank you me to.
Yes! The classiest guy to ever play.
@@carolinecorman1716 You're right. Dr. J was.....is...one of a kind.
❤ dr.j airwalk or moonwalk moves towards the basket 🧺
Dr.J's Hairline is the real GOAT here.
I didnt flinch one bit
Lol right!!
LeBron is mad at dr.j's hairline
Lebron will say his hairline is the GOAT.lmao
Jabarii Williams 😭😭😭😭🏆☠️
Lebron's hairy post inside his underwear is the goat.
Mad respect for the Doc. Everyone has an opinion and Doc will always be the only man to win a title in ABA and the NBA, Rucker Park Legend!!!!!!
Kanez Williams only dude to ever win MVP in both leagues too
❤dr.j airwalk or moonwalk moves towards the 🧺basket
"What you're missing is this is a team sport. Teams win championships. You're only as good as the team can take you. So 3 and 5 means nothing." Thank you, Dr.J.
Organizations win Championships. Jerry Krause is the best in the world!
@@konnan442 No Krause, Bulls have ZERO rings. Everyone was important. The Squad is greater than any individual.
MJ elevated his teammates' level to championship by preparing them for tough competition.
@@konnan442 damn this really hits different now ahahah
True
Shannon is so respectful when in the presence of all time greats
Christian Esposito
You learn that while playing football. No matter how big/ strong you are, even a smaller guy can give you a a solid rocking to the chops. Respect everybody until they give you a reason not to.
Schnell Facts💯
Because he is an athlete, and was a great athlete for that matter. He knows the greatness of these people, unlike Skip Bayless the little worm.
@@quicktoreason2722 Not all of them have respect for each other ❌ Jordan and Isiah can't stand each other ✅
MJ stole most of doctor j’s moves.
Dr J is too classy for this loudmouth show
Lol
Indeed
Definitely!!!!!
Yes! Really! 👍
Indubitably
Dr. J, elegant, the ultimate Ambassador...improved the game in every way. Before there was Mike, there was Julius
“Once you feel like you’re thirsty, you’re dehydrated so don’t let that happen to you”
Great advice Dr. J 😂
Stephen 😂😂😂😂 Doc is a bad boy
If Erving entered NBA today, he would be the League's biggest star. Young folks have no clue how dominant he was. With open spread offense; he would simply go off and destroy the rim. 40 a night if he chose to.
Scott Davidson I love dr j but come on. You have to factor in evolution athletes today are way bigger stronger and faster. Go back and watch a 70s game. Any player today would dominate. That’s nothing against Dr. J you can’t really compare eras the more modern era will always have better athletes
@@chadwilliams2116 well you argue with Magic Johnson who said in 2013 in Julius' documentary that doc would do things in today's game nobody else can do you need to slow your roll buddy.
@Pastor of Muppets
This is my same arguments.
People unconsciously compares old players with their old nutrition and technologies against current players with advanced meds, diet and technology and call it 'evolution'.
@@jongmacinas2580 Julius Erving could really jump though, same with George Gervin and David THompson lol
Scott Davidson ...You're absolutely and positively correct, Scottie!
Its disrespectful asking a NBA ICON who the goat is.
Lol Absolutely
Ain't that the truth!
Man I wish Dr J was still young and playing, just a great player and good person..
He should be a GM or something, he clearly still.knows the game!
@Tod Wilkinson Yeah after Adam Silver they need to be a black leader in the NBA, A Black Commissioner. We don't see much black leaders in sports.
Bird would like a word with you...
@@SoggySlopster
BIRD retired him
He would be great for todays game
Is it just me or Dr. J looks and kind of sounds like Denzel Washington???
Prophecy95 more like Morgan Freeman as Joe Clark in Lean On Me/Mandela as far as looks go lol
Prophecy95 I think they're 2nd cousins
I think DW sounds like the Dr J.
I was thinking this!!!
Prophecy95 I like the way he answer the question that’s the fans debate lebron career is not over ,but micheal put the bar so high
This interview indicates more of the reason why dr. J should be in the conversation of who is the greatest of all time
If only there was enough videos from Doc’s ABA career. He would be part of the debate of GOAT.
@@sturkeliousrron4934 If he was marketed asuch as Jordan more would think twice about Jordan. Dr. J with different teammates on different teams won multiple championships.
Julius did answer the question, albeit a bit cryptic, it is clear he chooses Jordan but just doesn't want an argument about it. In this clip, at 3:02, he says "Lebron has done all and everything that anyone has ever done in the history of this league, and so did MIchael, and MIchael although maybe unfathomable, to a higher level, because he was 6-0 in the Finals and was Finals MVP every time." So yeah, he clearly says Jordan was "at a higher level" than Lebron.
Chris Campbell - LeBron is still playing at arguably his best since entering the NBA
@@jamesnicholson2126 no. He stuffs the stat sheet but he hasn't played great defense for years now. I think that takes away from how good he is.
Night Mare stat padding at 35 is a lot harder than u make it sound he does play defence not very good defence but he does play it
@@pretty7995 When he was on the Miami Heat, he was a monster AND he played defense. I'm not biased when I say he's not playing defense and he's always stat padded. He's still a great player just not the best anymore
Exactly MJ was his pick.
I never seen anyone answer the LeBron and Jordan question that good
Dodging the answers
@@starkiller8677no its not what he said. He dodged and contradicted himself. He said its a team game so he is impress with more NBA finals appearances cause it takes a team to get there. But how can you say that and then in the same breath say it didn't matter if they lost all the finals as long as they get there? But he doesn't address the level of competition one has to go through to get there. The debate isn't about which team is better its about which player is better. So he dodged.
Even Skip recognizes the Classiness and greatness of Dr. J. anybody else he would have had a lot more to say, but he seemed to humble himself a little. that is rare for him..
Dr. J is a wise man. Basketball is a team game. Props to him recognizing his teammates and their importance. 8 straight finals is indeed impressive.
I had the Dr. J Converse back in the day!!!!! He was phenomenal!!!!
Skip Bayless hates when athletes tell him the truth about sports. 🤣
irving cant accept that MJ is better than him so thats why he cant admit that mj is the best ever...
aldrin castronero why would he thats his opinion the man has more basketball knowledge than both of us
Everything Erving said was straight facts. Its quite pointless to debate who is a greater player on a team from 2 completely different eras. Then there are only accomplishments that can measure a player but then that can be put into context like the Wilt-Russell argument, Wilt was way more dominant but never won. Then Kareem has the greatest accomplishments from longevity but was never the best player in the league. Then MJ was the most dominant then Shaq was but then they cannot be compared due to their positions. The Lebron comes in all round great but things would be a lot different in the 90s and 80s as the basketball was much different, like Lebrons scoring would go down but his defence would be better. Then theres Tim Duncan who was never the best player in the league but still the best pf all time. Its all just context and opinion. There is no true GOAT.
Bc he doesn't know sports as much as he thinks he does
Bankai
Dr J the real GOAT, So articulate and humble. My all time favorite player.
Mine too. Been mine since NBA Street Vol. 2
This is why I like to listen to Erving because he is so wise with his words
I truly liked what he said about being the best between " Jordan and LeBron " should be settled when LeBron has retired from the game.
That's common sense, and most people don't have that.
" Dr.J " is and has always been the real deal.
MJ - 15 seasons
Bron - 14
Michael Jordan has:
3 more rings
3 more final mvps
1 more DPOY
1 more season MVP
9 more scoring titles
3 more steals leader
3 more all defensive team selections
4000 more points
800 more steals
Beat 20 50+ win teams (Lebron only defeated 10)
Jordan NEVER averaged less than 40% Field Goal in the finals
Lebron did it twice lol.
Had the biggest margin of defeat in NBA finals history.
Oh and i forgot.
6/6.
AND never allowed a game 7
Lebron had much more help
Jordan never had a teammate averaged more than 22 points in the finals...
Kyrie averaged over 28 and DWade averaged more than 26
MJ never ever had a finals meltdown like Lebron in 2011 against the Mavs
MJ has more points in the playoffs in less games...
Played in college while LeBron did not. So take away 2 years from lebron.
All of this accomplished in 13 years. AND took a year off.
Lebron is in his 14 still chasing the ghost that played in Chicago
So how is the even close?
people tryna say Lebron is better than Michael Jordan smh
Nice breakdown.
And don't forget Kyrie got injured in 2015 and in 2017 kd came to the warriors big 4 in their primes vs LeBron and Kyrie everytime LeBron stepped out the court to rest for 2 minutes they have a 15 point lead and have to sub in LeBron back
Des T , You are right,7 likes, WTF. Jordan was the best. I've seen him in the 80s Bulls pre championship and randomly throughout his career, all the way up to Wizzards... He is the undisputable best.
Great post
Well said. Thank you
Nice break down agreed..
Des T Well said! Lebron is so so so far away from MJ
Dr. J is a classy act, Skip wanted and pushed him to debate Lebron v Jordan....but he handled it.
Yeah real classy. Cheated on his wife and had a kid that he never acknowledged until she became a story while moving up in a tennis tournament.
TrustNone35 his kid and wife have to do with being classy in an sports related argument? How does this correlate
True. Classy as an athlete, though, for sure.
TrustNone35 smh! You 💩💩💩
Think Tank, TOR ARE SO RIGHT, DR. J IS VERY CLASSY, OLE SCHOOL CLASSY😉😎
Man I love The Doc, he's such a class act and always answers questions eloquently and intelligently without disrepecting the game or the players, touch'e skip!!!😎
What about a thing called style! Come on people. Dr. j, kobe, jordan, magic, oscar, so so many great players with incredible style and moves...Lebron and westbrook are more like a 'fullback'... movement is a big part of how i judge the best.... anyone care to agree or disagree?
I completely agree....Basketball is entertainment....Doc was the most entertaining player ever, in my opinion ...that's how Dr. J really kept a stagnant league afloat, and increased it's popularity when he came in. He was the show...and as an individual he never disappointed. His style and creativity, on top of his great stats made him the # 1 marquee player in the league....I would rather watch the likes of Doc, Michael, Kobe, or Vince than the "fullback ", bull in a china shop type players.
Well said
Entertaining don't win games
Ronaldinho was probably the more entertaining player of history in soccer, but if you want win a game you'll choose CR7 or Messi
Allen Iverson and Tracy McGrady was more entertainers than LeBron, but if you want win a game you'll choose him
stratman 16 so you taking Ewing and Robinson over Shaq? Are you taking KG and Dirk over Duncan? Are you taking Doc over Lebron? Are you taking Iverson over Kobe?
@@l.a.6337 on the flip side, winning can do wonders for a team (think the New England Patriots, or the Boston Celtics if we're talking basketball), but if the overall league is not drawing in fans to watch the games, that's where the entertainment comes in. The Celtics were the Yankees of basketball with record titles won (to date, 18) and has a large number of players and coaches in the Naismith HOF, but the NBA was going stagnant. Enter the upstart league ABA, which brought a breath of fresh air and excitement, spearheaded by Dr J. When the two leagues merged, it was the Philadelphia 76ers who purchased Doc's contract from the Nets. He brought that excitement and electricity to a team, and a league, that sorely needed them. Soon, fans started coming out just to watch Doc play, specifically his legendary windmill dunks. And the All-Star game? He was a regular participant, especially in the dunking contest, which he'd won multiple times before being upset by Larry Nance, Sr. He also refreshed the rivalry between the Sixers and Celtics (with Larry Bird), then against the Lakers (with Kareem, Magic and company), winning the NBA title in 1983. He inspired a generation of players like Jordan, Wilkins, then Kobe and others to pick up a basketball and just put their own flair and flash on the game.
Dr. J was my favorite NBA player growing up. Could do everything he wanted to on the court.
When you lose the title it's unfair to compare a 6-0 record to 4-10 record on the game that all player's are fighting to get to and win *MICHAEL JORDAN THE G.O.A.T.*
haha! Dr j. nailed that question about the championships. skip always credits jordan for those 6 titles. the bulls won those titles not jordan by himself. jordan was the best player and he was the most important player in the team but the team as a whole won those titles. teams win titles not individual players.
Same with making it to 8 finals so idk why people credit Lebron than if it’s a team accomplishment? 🤦🏻♂️😂
Jim Kelly gets no love for 4 straight Superbowls 😂😂 all people remember is the 4 straight loses
Yeah Lebron had a real bad Team in Miami when he lost vs Dallas. Dwayne Wade and Chris Bosh are bad Teammates. MJ played with these Superstars like the prime Bill Cartwright, prime Robert Parrish, Luc Longley, Steve Kerr, John Paxson. Always a Team of Superstars. So Lebron is obv the Goat. 🤣
ITS NOT LIKE MJ IS TAKING ALL THE CREDIT FOR THE 6 RINGS HE GOT, WELL 6-0 FOR MJ BECAUSE HE WAS THE LEADER OF THE TEAM. I AM NOT SURE THOUGH IF LBJ SHOULD EVEN BE CONSIDERED THE LEADER OF THE HEATS BEING WADE ALREADY GOT A RING BEFORE LBJ EVEN JUMP SHIPS, NOT SURE IF HE WAS THE BIGGEST CONTRIBUTOR BUT ALL I KNOW ALLEN WON THEM ONE, AND IRVING WITH THE CAVS
Yes , but in context it was who was better......He without saying it said Jordan was better than LeBron . 6 of 6 championships , 6 championship mvp , never beat . Without Jordan , the bulls never win one championship .
And today's game , Phil Jackson said in all candor , if Mike were to play in today's league you could easily pencil him in for scoring an ave 51 for his career and minimum 10 championships .
Many players in history were great superstars , ....I'd consider Dr J the 2nd best player of all time behind MJ .
No other player was able to make his teammates better like Mike , extracting the very best from.each one . And don't forget about clutch , nobody comes close to Jordan .
Many players were very good in.The clutch , nobody like Mike . And those greats were not triple teamed and even quadrupled like Mike .
when lebron retires... its gonna be.. "new player vs michael"
The most intelligent thing anyone has posted.
Zion vs mj
That was for Kobe, definitely not for Lebron (that already passed MJ, it's about Kareem), unless someone even better than Lebron or Kareem will show up, why not, it would be great and sight to see.
@@abdicolestudios8899 You can't be serious, or, at least, Brandon Ingram and other better players and leaders on his Pelicans team would make more sense vs Jordan than him (and I hope he doesn't end up a Greg Oden).
@raftel 2 false. No one will ever forget number 23 Michelle Johnson
The skyhook is unguardable conversation over!
Dr is so right! It's a team sport and 3-5 is irrelevant, he still has 3 rings
ehh to a certain extent...He said if he was 0-8 that would still be a great achievement but winning titles matters whether it is a team sport or not. He said its like making it to 8 super bowls. So tell me how many people think of the 90s bills when you talk about the greatest teams. Sure eventually their name will get brought up but going 0-4 takes them out of the convo. Winning matters. Jerry west 1-8 in the finals. If he was 5-3 he would be looked at completely differently. Yes he is the logo but he never gets mentioned when speaking of GOAT status.
Kevin Flowers you mentioned west yet dr j has him in his top 5 ever
I was speaking in general. Tell me how many people have west top 5....im not saying her wasn't great but You and I both know that if he has 5 rings he is a lot higher on people's list. Doesn't surprise me that Dr J would have him up there considering he just said finals records do not matter. I meant more so my the general public not a bball lifer
Kevin Flowers he s the logo
Dominic dominic how do you know that ? or u are just bsing
"..If this is fathomable,....Michael did it at a higher level..." 3:16-3:18...
Julius speaking the truth
Julius Winfield Irving in my mind is one of the greatest who ever played the game of basketball not just his talents but his wisdom as an ambassador intelligent and know how to deal with the media and reporters should be without a doubt the commissioner
The REAL GOAT speaks!! Jordan is his son and Lebron is his grandson!!!
This guy is pure wisdom. Respect
I'm so glad we seeing more of Dr. J man. Dude was and is one of the coolest NBA players ever.
Dr. J is CLASS personified. Hate that this clip ends cutting him off.
I remember going to old freedom hall years ago in Louisville when DrJ came to town to play the Ky Cols. He was simply fantastic.
GOAT IS DR. J.
The era of playing basketball is different between MJ and LBJ. During MJ's era, travelling is strictly forbidden while LBJ's era it is somewhat okay.
And back then you can guard so tightly and can touch a player, now no touching🤣
Both PLAYERS made & make players better around them. Their G O A T' S form different areas
Dr. J is one of my all time favs. He is so smooth.
MJ was a different kind of man. He was so much more mentally tough than other players. He took the style of Dr. J the clutch from bird the toughness of Isiah and the flair of Magic and added it to his already incredible game. The guy was amazing and if you weren't around to live it then you won't get it all from old footage, but you can still tell even from that.
Johnny Blade best interpretation of what Michael was. True LEGEND
He took the clutch from Mr Clutch Sam Jones.
I think your "over-emphasizing". M.J. was "mentally tough" big whoop but you cant really clock that. He's the best winner because he had Scottie Pippen the best most level teammate of any sport probably ever. Without that chemistry no JORDAN as we know have come to know it
@@drickett67 Jordan was already being Jordan before he got his sidekick, after Jordan his sidekick did nothing so who needed who?
@@rts2465well he is doing Jordan stuff before his sidekicks but he wasn't winning anything. When he left his sidekicks were one bad call away from going to the finals. So both needed each other. MJ is a great basketball probably the greatest but no need to diss his team like that cause even he would tell you that he needed his team to win. Any great basketball player that won to the highest level would tell you that you need a team to win
Dr J is the real GOAT ... he changed the game . He was the ABA, he revolutionized the NBA. His impact is still felt today....
Dr. J is the epitome of an athlete and gentleman.
The Doc is my favorite player of all time.
Doc is the best. Love when he does interviews and handles questions. So much wisdom and character
I was mesmerized by the Dr. He is amazing and yes he got it right. If your starting a franchise you go with Kareem.
Only if you've already got the Doctor.
Kareem + Stockton = 3 of 5 records and 20 years of great teams
Im convinced, Dr. J and Denzel Washington are related!!!
Julius said it best!!! It's a team sport! An NBA player can get you to the finals but it really becomes a team thing in the NBA Finals!
An NBA player could never get you to the finals. You think a one man team can make playoffs and go all the way to the finals? It has always been a team sport
@Kenneth Erickson That's called being a leader
The Dr. Is my all time favorite player. Great player. Better man.
I would say Kareem and Jordan are tied for the GOAT. I can't choose between the 2.
Better rebounder : Kareem
Better stealer : MJ
Better blocker : Kareem
Better defender : MJ
Better Passer : MJ
Better shooter : MJ
Better scorer : tie
Most MVP's : Kareem
Most finals MVP : MJ
Most rings : tie
DynamicUnreal Stat wise they stayed healthy throughout most of the career with minor injuries.
DynamicUnreal I will Lew F. Alcindor.
DynamicUnreal
Agree
Lebron = an unskilled loser
😂😂😂😂
Kareem led team to Championships in HS, college, and pros. He was the best player in those teams and never lost in college.
"...how big the tennis...the sneaker market is?" Shannon is so country 😂😂😂I love him! Anybody who ever lived in the South can relate!
Legend Dr J gives the most intelligent answer of all who have commented. Doc is in the top 10 of all time.
I wish we could just say there's alot of great player's and get over this who's the greatest argument. Every great player has done things other great players haven't done.and vice versa
You absolutely can, and totally should say that. I mean it is true.
Wilt is the greatest. He could not be stopped. He could stop anyone. Lebron, Jordon, Bird, Lou A, on and on would never been able to score in the paint. Absolutely the greatest of all time. He is a level above all the other all time greats
I like lebron but mj has more passion in basketball and he has much more moves when it comes to winning the game
jocakl sumajar well said! Thank you!
Michael Jordan - Best player legacy Wise
Kobe Bryant - Best Basketball skill player ever
Lebron James - Best team basketball player ever
Dr. J is in the GOAT conversation himself, He Dominated his Era and was the guy that young kids dreamed about being like. His athletic style of play and unique creative abilities challenged the perceived limits of what was thought to be possible at that time. Dr. J in his physical prime could hold his own with anyone on a basketball court, regardless of era, stats, or NBA titles. Dr. J is the Godfather of modern basketball.
He is one fine old man!! He can get it everyday in every way!!❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️ legend style 👅
Why is skip discrediting the man? Why is it so hard to believe he wasn't feeling good enough to play?
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per Tong Zou "Its Wilt Chamberlain. most dominant player in NBA history. averaged 50 points in a game before. 70 unbroken NBA records. scored 100 points in a game. All time leading rebounder despite only playing 13 seasons. grabbed 55 rebounds in a game. averaged 45 minutes per game his whole CAREER when dudes these days cant even play 33 minutes a game for one season. Was a complete player offensively and defensively. Was able to block Kareem's skyhook when he was 35 and past knee surgery and Kareem was in his prime a young Buck. Humbled Magic in practice when he was 50+ years old. Probably the most athletic and strongest player ever to play."
Absolutely true!
Im so tired of them putting LeBron on Jordan level. That not even a comparison. LeBron more like kobe then micheal. He haven't even passed kobe honestly.
Agreed. Kobe makes my top ten. Lebron does not.
@@ebed-ifemcgriff1686 well, that's ur list, to me lebron is 3rd, after Kareem and MJ
Kobe Bryant not in LeBron or micheal goat convo because he never made ANYBODY better, he's a ballhog
LeBron more like kobe is a joke . THERE no way becsuse LeBron passes kobe don't. LeBron is the greatest all around player in the history, he's the goat
Ebed-Ife McGriff if you don’t think Lebron is top ten ur just a hater
"he did it at a higher level" case closed, thank you.
Dr J is a total class act. He 100% right, BB is a team sport. So eight straight times to the finals is more impressive than the finals record.
I'm from Chicago, my favorite player Dr. J then MJ
Watch Jordan's "Come Fly with Me", then tell me who has ever gone up against men almost a foot taller than themselves and DOMINATED with utter devastation. Lebron is great, but, I haven't seen him score, pass and defend with the authority that Michael displayed. Sorry if you don't agree.
Score pass and defend? Is this a joke lol come on man. Let’s look at stats again and talk. This is just person preference talking rather than facts.
Start out, don't watch Come fly with me that will clear your mind.
I like the way he answered. It's a team sport. Ur only as good as your team allow u to be.
What a level headed guy Dr. J is.
JORDAN=GOAT
CHANGED THE GAME IN ALL DYNAMICS!!! Hands down!
Dr. J is so nice to listen to, his voice is just relaxing and he's so calm and well mannered. Love the guy.
After the dunk the announcer says Juuliuus Errrrvvvvinnnnnnnnnggg
What would The N.B.A. , would have a been, without Dr. J ? Just A Clinic.......
A league that folded around 1981.
As much as ive heard him, ive found DR J prolly the most intelligent in terms of his basketball knowledge. He wont give you direct answers to settle the debate for you would provide you with perspectives and sides to it for you to thikn of it in a better way on your own which is kinda special
Bill Russell 11 championship 13 seasons case closed !!!
I thought it said LeBron or Michael Jordan or Lonzo ball
DeMarvelous DeChosen i love that name lol
DeMarvelous DeChosen umm success is part of accomplishment
DeMarvelous DeChosen oh you mean Lavar Ball right
DeMarvelous DeChosen lonzo ball?? That guy is a garbage my god.
Skip Bayless is an idiot.
Every era has their own heroes , but realistically the level of real competition is not the same today as it was in Jordans time .
Kareem Abdul Jabbar is the GOAT! He still holds NBA's LEADING SCORER RECORD OF ALL TIME Until Now! Period.
Just cuz you have that doesn't mean your the goat
MJ the goat
I'm a Lebron fan but Jordan is 1a & bron is 1b right now
Durag Jones nah 😂
julius is the best, as a player and by far as a human being!
Like Doctor J said, just wait until LeBron's career is done. People are talking about LeBron's 3-5 finals record compared to Jordan's 6-0 but it's completely different. LeBron's Eastern Conference going to the NBA Finals has been a lot easier than Jordan's, but LeBron has played better teams than Jordan when he has gotten to the finals.
Xanderpie what, how?
shirley Fizer Jordan's Bulls never played a team the caliber of The Spurs or Warriors is what I think he's referring to.
Another idiot person
Michael Jordan #23 too easy
That's that cold stare he had while he was choking Bird. Had it not been for basketball, the Doc would have made one helluva serial killer.
Someone tell me why Wilt Chamberlain isn't in the discussion
IngRand'lo Russell he's number 2 for me
Drew R I feel like he gets forgotten about. He has a serious case for GOAT
Because his finals record, he puts up amazing regular season numbers but folds in the playoffs (think James Harden), his competition was severely inferior compared to players today.
Wilt only have two rings and he’d was status guy only he Chamberlain only cared about his status
Because Kareem was the best big man that ever played the game. Wilt was second.
Doc smooth 24/7
Dr. J so humble and down to earth.. Much respect to the Dr.
Lebron is not top 5 yet and will never be better than MJ.
A year later we still have Jordan 😭😭
I am from Philly and I remember when Dr. J first came here. He was INCREDIBLE!!!!! In my opinion, Dr. J was the best ambassador the NBA has ever had. He was so professional, so classy.
The classy part really should not be past tense. He still is really classy.
Jordan, Kareem, Russel, Oscar, Kobe, and then Lebron.
why is doc not in this
he's the goat foreal!!!
Bird and Magic come right after Kareem
Dr. J saying straight facts.
Thank you DR. J !! He brought some reason to the conversation on James and Jordan..
Michael Jordan
There is no one close to LeBron right now. But he ain't close to MJ never!
Man the doctor just soo smooth answering skips tricky questions i see why he's the face of the league
Wilton Norman Chamberlain. Nuff said.
@Star Killer What makes you think Lebron was better than Wilt?
@Star Killer So that makes him better?
@Star Killer Just how is he more athletic? Wilt was a high jumper and ran 47 seconds in the 440 yd dash in hi tops on cinders. He is also in the pro volleyball hall of fame.
LeBron James is 6'9" and weighs 250 not 260. Wilt was 7'1" & 276lbs.
@Star Killer .LeBron Raymone James, Sr. played in less competitive era. Furthermore, you weren't even around during the Wilton Norman Chamberlain era.