Is the ALL NEW 2020 Subaru Outback BETTER than the Forester?
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 ธ.ค. 2019
- Subaru has a great lineup of vehicles. Two of their most popular are the the Forester & Outback. For 2020 the Outback is all new and takes the lifted wagon to the next level. The 2020 Forester received it's redesign last year and offers plenty of room and safety. Both of these Subaru's are great but which is the right one for you to buy?
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Thanks for this excellent review. It was very thorough and informative.
You are so very welcome!
Greatly appreciate the comparison idea. I am exactly on the fence between Forrester and Outback. Perfect video for me.
Great video. I am currently looking at get one of them. I'm now leading towards the Outback. Thanks from Australia!
Very nice detailed video, thanks! I finally decided after pondering for a week or so that I like the Forester better. Too bad you didn’t have both vehicles in white here, but I’m glad you had the Outback in white. I saw another similar comparison where the Forester was in white and the Outback was not, so thank you.
thanks! I've been looking at both online and at my local dealer. still on the fence, but this was very helpful. all good info
Thank you for letting me share it with you!
So you're getting the Outback, right?
Nice, comprehensive comparison. Thanks, Joe! 👍
great review Joe i really enjoyed it. as I'm watching it Iam thinking about my 2015 FXT!
Have just picked up the 2020 Onyx and love it. Im a jeep guy and own a Ford edge SEL so can tell you it takes a lot to get me to budge. My wife picked this up before it was even delivered to the dealership. The more I learned about the Onyx the more I was excited. This guy does not do Subaru's justice. Can not believe he wasted your time talking about lights. Ill name just 3 things, full size spare on factory rim, 11.6 inch infotainment center, Driver assist that makes even the windiest day a smooth ride. Oh, look up under the car when the front seats set and tell me what you see.
Raiti, what are your sources saying? They’re bringing back XT forester anytime soon?
Diggin the outback! Nice review
My '18 Outback is a mini tank. Just a few upgrades and it's a beast.
I totally agree with you!
Loved the video. The references to sweets awesome!
Thanks for making you laugh!
Great double feature review Joe. I had a '17 Forester XT (accident), presently driving a '18 WRX, but I'm thinking about going back to the Forester. May wait for Spring '21 for Wilderness edition. Any details about that?
Not a single word about how good and clean this fit and finish is on both these Subarus. Not a single lose end or gap like that in the all new Highlander bonnet or Altima's.
Overlooked by almost every reviewer.
excellent video Joe. Great job. Slight static on audio,1/2 a zonk. Great job overall here. Thank you.
How are these on poor roads? I didn't see any bumps at all. I have a back and bad neck. Also, I'm highly considering the Outback with the turbo. Is there any difference between that ride as well. Thank you very much.
First year Foresters have outsold Outbacks. I bought a Forester its awesome!
What trim ???
I really like the Forester sport 😍
Can you do the same with the Impreza and Crosstrek?
Hi! I’m a graduating college in December, and I want a vehicle to do road trips in with friends. I am coming from a Toyota 4 runner (which I discovered has some poor safety ratings) Which one of these amazing vehicles would you recommend?
We are looking to buy a new Subaru Outback. Do you have anything in the 26,000?
The zonking and candy bar references are bizarre but funny
I cant decide between these two and I'm starting to like the ascent. The rear ac up in the celing.
I like the forester sport and with it being more boxy I'm sure my Dobie could stand to in it.
The outback does have more room and I would get the onyx xt but aren't turbo engines not as reliable?
I have a 2015 rav4 and I blew the engine with 30k miles on it. I got a leak in my coolant. Temp went up for a minute then back to normal. Suddenly stalled at a light and that was that. Stranded in Phoenix 110 degree weather. I did buy a new engine with 5k on it for $1400 so thinking about trading it in.
So I'm doing my research because I'm tired of getting a new car every 5 years.
I am leaning towards the outback though.
With back seats down on both models do they block the ac vents? That's one reason I want a new car. My 2015 rav4 doesn't have rear ac.
Good insight to what the 2021 STI will look like inside.. might head down and get a deposit on a 2020 while I still can
Please review a crosstrek. Thanks, love your videos
Great video!!
I bought the 2020 Outback XT Touring. Love it better then my Legacy.
Congrats! Great choice!
Your best review yet. Well done!
Great well built safe versatile vehicles. I would however leave the towing to a truck unless it is a small trailer for tents etc. Once again excellent review by Joe and the Crew. 🏆
One thing that bugs me is the continuous trend youtubers follow, case in point the tail lights... I swear, almost all of them say they don't light the design. What about it they don't like, I don't know. I think it's just one following the other. There is nothing wrong with the tail lights. Again it's my opinion.
We just got an Ascent for the family and we love it so far. I might get one of these also in the future, probably the Outback just because my mom has a Forester. Plus I like the grill a little better and the chrome accents are nice. I just wish they had a trim with a turbo engine on the Forester.
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I would get the Forester my grandmother has 2009 Forester it’s very comfortable and full of great safety features and being 6ft 7 it’s has plenty of room.
This is great, thank you.
great video, efficient!
Thanks for taking the time to say that!
How does the driver's seat compare in the Forester and the Outback? Lumbar support (2-way or 4-way?). Thigh extension ? Hardness/softness of cushion bottom ? Which one of these vehicles would you want to be in the driver's seat for a lengthy trip? Thanks.
Owned a 14 Forester and now have a 17 Outback. The seats in both are very comfortable. Virtually no difference.
Hello sir ! Is there any suv without CVT ? Thank you 🙏 what makes CVT difference? Having CVT is good or bad thank you
Mazda CX-5 has a standard 6 speed Auto
I had my last vehicle 10+ years ago. I will be in the car 95% of the time alone. However when I have the grands I need room for 2 car seats in the rear & possibly a teen. Been admiring the outback for many years but concerned about the length for tight & challenging parking in NYC. I am planning group day trips & solo road trips. The more I research the more I am unclear to get the outback, forrester, crosstrek or impreza. Now I talking to people with outback that I see in the neighborhood all give outback 5 stars. One impreza owner said she likes her vehicle but wish she got the outback. Advice please. Thanks.
Very helpful. Thanks!
I am so glad that I could share this one with you!
Picked up my 2020 Touring Forester 10 days ago and absolutely love it! Only zonk I have is the auto off/on engine feature. Wish I could permanently disabled it but glad it's easily shut off with the button on the dash at any time while driving. Have the brown leather interior with Sepia Bronze exterior, really like the rich look of that color combo. Subaru did the Forester Touring real good and when compared with my 2010 Limited model it replaced I feel like I'm riding in a very upscale vehicle worth the price paid. Well done Subaru.
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pretty sure the outback roof rails have integrated crossbars. could be wrong but that is what i have seen
25:35 blind spot light flashes a lot and a Mercedes appears
We went back and forth for a month between Forester and Outback quite the dilemma for us. Forester room & visibility is so amazing as well great for dogs, styling from rear bit of a let down. Outback offered the turbo engine and we liked the exterior styling better...wound up with an Onyx XT. The ride is great , the power is great & mileage good, getting used to the center Stack which looks great but a little distracting.
I have a 2020 Subaru outback and I love it. Better than any American SUV . I will never go back to an American SUV or car . I have least two Subarus, one Forester and now the outback. This outback turns sharper than the 2019 outback. It may be longer but the turning radius Is sharper. I have everything I wanted except a CD player. I forgotten to ask about one .
we only got the 2.0 e-boxer in the Forester and the XV(Crosstrek in Amerika) in the Netherlands and a 2.5 boxer in the Outback
Why does it matter to you CVT or automatic transmission when you don't drive at all yourself Joe?
The Outback already has the cross bars. They swing out of the way and lock down when not needed. :)
they need to put the turbo back in,
tbh a supercharger would be better it needs that low end power for both asap
Fingers crossed that they bring the Forester XT back!
It doesn't need a turbo as much as it needs anything but a CVT. Even the outback with the torquey 3.6L was DOG slow 0-30mph because of the transmission, and its the same ancient transmission in the new ones.
You maybe should’ve added that if you do opt for the XT or higher trim for the outback you’ll get up to 3500 lbs of towing vs. 1500 lbs
Yes this is true and that is why I bought the turbo/Boxer engine Outback. 3500 is a generous towing ability but would never go past 3000 to 3100 weight and would not tow anything that did not have electric brakes on the item being towed. When I go down a hill I dont want anything pushing me down, I must have control.
Last year (2021), I bought my wife a 2019 Outback for her birthday. Her Camry was 18 years old and we couldn’t drive it in the winter months bc we get 5-6 feet of snow every winter.
It was a lease return and had only 5,600 miles on it. I looked it up on KBB with all amenities and it booked out for $38K. I bought it for $33K.
We are so impressed by how well the AWD system works that I / we decided that we would replace my 11 Rav 4WD Limited this year with a Forester Touring.
I found a 2019 Forester Touring at Carter Subaru in Shoreline WA (3 hours away) with only 4,700 miles.
Again I went to KBB and it booked out for $38,900. Carter Subaru sold it to us for $33K.
My wife’s is Cinnamon Brown pearl with Ivory interior. My Forester is Sephia Bronze with Brown interior.
I really wanted to get the Brilliant Bronze for my wife but she insisted on the Cinnamon. It’s too dark of a color for me, but she loves it.
I love the lighter Bronze color of mine.
Our vehicles seldom get washed in the winter only because our normal day temperatures hover around 20-25 degrees.
Thank you for sharing that great input from your experience David!
You should try sitting in the middle seat and give perspective for that 5th person. Just a random thought.
Nah
You should make a video of the 2020 Audi RS7
Nice Automotive history drop!.... Should do more History nuggets
Both cars are great. But I prefer Forester due to physical knobs available on the dashboard.
I chose the Forester. It is taller than the Outback. It has more interior space. In chose the Premium model with the 15 package.
Congrats on your Forester James!
You do miss the awesomely large screen on the Outback though!
I too chose the Forester Touring for all the amenities but mainly for the Brown leather interior.
My wife wanted her Outback with cloth interior 🤮. I told her that she would be happier with leather interior but she didn’t want it. 4 months after buying her the Outback (it was a birthday gift from me to her), she told me that she wished she would have gotten the Limited with Ivory leather interior.
But now she has to wait until her Outback wears out before she gets one with leather interior.
My Forester is Sephia Bronze with the Brown interior and hers is Cinnamon Brown pearl with the Ivory interior.
Yes, I say in terms of styling at least.
love your sense of humor, sir. nice job!
Thanks Greg! That really means a lot!
Purchased the Outback Touring XT. Fabulous 2.4 Turbo engine gets up and goes effortlessly, which the 2.5 just does not have. Without the Turbo option, I’d likely went with another line. Really liking the Napa Leather Brown with White Exterior combination.
How is the cabin noise? Wind, road, transmission, engine.
Eric Calabros, I traded a 2019 Mazda CX-5 Touring w/ Turbo. It was very nice, but seats were very uncomfortable for me. The 2 vehicles are very similar in cabin noise. The Subaru is nicely isolated, ride is very impressive for AWD with low noise, yet decent handling. Cruised at 75-80 effortlessly and quiet. CVT is quite good......for a CVT, but you still know it’s a CVT. A nice 8 speed automatic would be great in this car though. However, I’m quite OK with this CVT with 2.4 Turbo set up.
Also, though the Outback has the same engine as the Forester, it can tow 2700 lbs (or 3500 lbs with the turbo engine in the XT models) vs the Forester's 1500 lbs.
The best part of any Subaru (and the reason that I love my Forester the most) is the way they chug through the snow. My Fozzy is unstoppable in heavy snow, and even though it doesn't snow in Denver as much as people think it does, it's great to have the peace of mind when it does. It's also a little tank on off-road trails and has allowed me to get to many a remote trailhead.
I LOVE all the chrome on my Forester Touring !
It adds just enough extra style.
The XT outback’s are so worth the money. The turbo charger does wonders for that 2.4L
If you were going to take a long road trip which one would you choose? Also which vehicle would you say has a quieter and smoother ride? Thank you I can’t decide which one I like better!
I am going Outback for both.
Raiti's Rides thank you so much for your insight! I have an Outback and it’s a dream on a road trip! I love the Forester moon roof and extra head room too. The struggle is real! Lol
Been wanting to get my negative out of my CX-5 for the payments so I can get a Outback limited I work for Subaru of Little Rock and love the outback’s
REALLY wish they left physical HVAC controls on the outback 💔💔
I totally understand where you are coming from. I highly recommend taking one for a test drive!
Wireless charging is an option for a couple hundred bucks, the model you reviewed just didn't have that option selected.
Thanks for sharing your input and perspective! I really appreciate you watching!
Love Subaru WRX and Forester my favorites , I'd love it if the WRX didn't need premium I know that asking much and the forester didn't have nick nack mods like coloured vents they u can buy those for few bucks anywhere they should keep it clean but the best lineup I've seen from them
Spring for the XT Turbo, you will not be sorry!
Love your comparison! But in case someone else didn't point it out, the Outback has the cross bars built into the roof rails. You don't need to buy them from Subaru or aftermarket :)
yep. outgoing 2019 Touring requires crossbar purchase
Had an 11 and 14 Forester with rails and moveable crossbars. Have a 17 Outback with the built-ins. The Outback bars can only be set at either 30 or 40 " apart. The Forester bars are much more adaptable. You can get bars 2nd hand for the Forester at a reasonable cost. And by the way , crossbars from my 2011 ( 2009 to 2013) will work perfectly well with the 2014 to 2018 generation, and maybe with the current generation. So I much prefer the Forester system.
In Canada, even my Base model 2020 Outback came with cross bars from the factory.
why dont you like brown color for seats?
white, whitish, or any shade of gray is kind of boring! and not practical .
"Comes to a lovely point!" Haha
Yes it is because they are nicer from the outside to the very nice interior with the 11.6 Subaru Starlink infotainment system. Also bones on the 2020 Outback has the option 2.4 Turbo engine in it. I think Subaru needs to being back a Turbo engine for the Forester. And my mom has a 2020 Subaru Outback XT Onya Edition in the pearl white. We got it on September 13th of 2019. We went with a XT model since we live in the high hills or South Carolina.
Thanks for sharing your great input Steven. I appreciate you watching!
Great suvs!!
Love the Outback!!!
I am so glad that I could share it with you!
Any thoughts on the 2020 Crosstrek?
It's slow as hell, you're welcome.
Wait til next year it will have more power. Right now it's slow
I purchased a new Outback in 2017. It had RAB and many other electrical problems from the start. I had it in the shop 10 times for repair. towed to the dealer no less than 4 times. Went a total of 42 days without my car. It was a Lemon. Even the district service manager told me to contact Subaru Customer service to get a full refund, as they could not figure out what is wrong with the car. After months of being given the run around, Subaru customer service did not refund my money as they should have. Major problem with the dealer, they do not give you any paperwork, to prove you were there in the first year, they delete the PC history, (destroy the evidence). I traded my car in, still under warranty, still not fixed. I lost over $14,000 because Subaru does not stand behind their cars. Toyota is looking better all the time.
If I had to choose I would go with the forester. I have a friend who has one in upstate New York and it gets her through the snow through any amount.
They both handle the snow like champs.
They have the EXACT same drivetrain and the outback has more clearance. And snow tires are always the most important part in any snow environment
@@james2042 Good call!
Is there another reason to buy other than SNOW..crap?
James Mastroianni ground clearance is the same 8.7 inches in the Forester and the Outback. But the Forester has the advantage of greater ride height. Either is a great choice for the deep snow we get here in Vermont but I prefer the higher ride height of the Forester. Now, if only I could get an XT Forester....
The outback also has the semi auto steering function
Joe, the CVT does not make the drone, it is the engine. If you floor a car with this engine with an automatic transmission, it will also make the same drone at the high rpm’s. It is not the CVT so much as the engine that is the problem. Cars with more horsepower don’t have to run this high of RPM and therefore don’t sound like this. I have the outback with the CVT and 3.6 engine and it is quiet and smooth all the time.
If they put the turbo in the Forester, and some of the upgraded features of the Outback, I would probably get the Forester. I personally prefer to sit up higher since I'm used to driving a truck. So I am stuck between deciding between those two.
what was that clunking noise in both as you stepped on the gas??
Great question!
@@RaitisRides so what's the answer?
Got news for you, if they've kept it the same, the seats are not all leather. They use a vinyl look alike in some areas of the seats. One area of our 2015 was torn on the back left of drivers side. Subaru said it was cuz the previous driver slid their butt across it. It was only a year and a half old when I purchased it and only 27,000 miles.Had to replace the whole top seat cover. 300 bucks just for the cover PLUS almost 200 bucks labor. I'll never purchase a Subaru again with "leather" interior.
You almost hit that Mercedes changing lane without signaling. The lane change warning did what it’s supposed to but was promptly ignored. Goes to show all the tech in the world will not triumph over determined distracted driver.
Forester and Crosstrek need the turbo XT option...
New Forester looks great I'd get one if it had a turbo but it's an Outback XT for me.
I totally agree with you!
Sport sharp mode on the Forester Sport helps with the acceleration, although I agree a turbo would be better. The Onyx XT Outback takes care of this but at the expense of a cargo space that isn’t as good for me. I prefer the higher ride height (albeit with same ground clearance) and the higher (if slightly shorter) cargo space in the Forester -which lets short people like me almost stand up in the back. And, as you mentioned, rear visibility is better in the Forester.
I remember my Subaru brat and the spare tire on top of the engine. I loved that little rig, would go just about anywhere.
I LOVE the brown. Driving a 97 Outback Legacy has me going hum-a-na, hum-a-na, hum-ana. LOL
I totally agree with you!
No dedicated auto on/off button on the Outback. That was the deal breaker for me. Bought a 2020 Forester Limited instead.
Thanks for sharing that info.
On/off button for what?? Starting the car?
@@kellyname5733 auto start stop. A lot of cars have the option to turn that off.
The Outback had a recent software update 3/2021 where a dedicated auto on/off button is present on the Home Screen. Happy Subie driver I am!
@@CactusBravo42 Subaru just had a recent software update 3/2021. Can now turn the auto on/off with a dedicated button on the Home Screen. Yay!
I hate that there is no way to see the temperatures of your radiator.
This is very true!
outback looks way slimmer!!!!!!!!! esp in white
also good color is light green , saw in other review!!
It's all a matter of choice. I picked the Forester because it was the right size. The Outback was too big for me since I don't have a family. The price was right. The dealer was trying to force the Outback on me before I even saw the Forester. One look at the Forester, and I knew that was my car. Awesome price, awesome MPG- 37 highway, 25 city.
Is the forester bigger in height because of the more square body? I'm thinking my dogs could stand up easier in a forester compared to a outback. Subaru should let the back window go down. Guarantee that would boost sails.
Subaru, you are almost perfect but you guys doesn’t have 360 Camera and wireless charger. Please by next year please have some. Im excited for next year.
Good points!
I'd go for the Forester just on looks alone.... Outback...Don't like all the lower black bulky cladding on the bumpers both front and rear. I recently traded a 2016 Outback, in my opinion it was a much better looking wagon overall.
I just scooped up am ultra sharp 2020 Forester sport a month ago. The outback was nice, but I got more for my money with the Forester. The outback didn't seem to have the interior room the Forester had, and everything was more expensive for having essentially the same drive train and motor.
I just had to comment. I friggin love you with your Twinkies and Breath Mints and. Gum. Oh my!!!
They need to add a hybrid variant. PHEV would work independent of the combustion engine, reducing wear and tear on the transmission and engine.
It will be interesting to see how this goes down.
I’m leasing a 19 Forester Premium and it’s a good car. The 20’s have Lane Centering which is a huge upgrade. I’d like to see them add a Forester PHEV direct competitor to the upcoming RAV4 Prime that can run 30-40 miles on EV mode and kick over to gas. The highway mileage on the Forester is great but the city mileage is not the best. EV mode would solve that problem - and give extra acceleration! Fingers crossed - otherwise the Model Y is looking more and more attractive
The Forester is made in JAPAN while the outback is made in the states. Clearly the Forester is a better made vehicle.
Great insight bro
I've owned Foresters with rattles/squeaks and badly fitting trim (particularly first year models). My first outback ('21 - 2nd year model) doesn't (so far) have those issues. Forester definitely has more headroom and feels more spacious despite shorter length. Outback's proved quieter and less rough around edges.
Good comparison. I personally, like the Forester. It is shorter, but it is taller. It has more interior space. It has a lower price, and the outback doesn't give you enough to warrant the price. I would not spend the dollars for the touring trim. I also would not get the base model. However, the premium, I believe is the best deal. Subaru is a quality product. It's Forester for me. I do like the taillights Vetter on the outback. I do hope that Subaru will move,away from the CVT transmission.
Sorry I'm really late Joe I was with my Barber getting a fresh Fade LOL.
I am sure you are looking good Jay!
@@RaitisRides U bet Joe. Ladies man LOL ( Not Really ).
Forester hit sweet spot for seniors, height for egress