Our last two vehicles were a Toyota Camry and now a Subaru Outback. I am much more pleased with the Outback and with the quality of support and service that we get from our local Subaru Dealership. They go out of their way to be friendly and helpful. I'm now a committed Subaru owner.
When I was car shopping last fall visiting many brands, I was directed to a Subaru dealer in my city. I said to the sales person "I am just looking right now, don't know what brand of car I will buy or when I will buy it". He still took the time to show me a Crosstrek, explained the engine, the features etc. After two months of doing research and visiting many places, I returned and asked for a test drive. A week later I ordered a Crosstrek, have not regretted it, Especially comfortable on a 4000 kilometre trip (2400 miles).
I test drove a Crosstrek when they first came out and still like them. Couldn’t buy one because I needed a 7-seater. Also I’m not comfortable having the dealer an hour away.
Kinda did something similar…I had an 11 year-old Jeep Wrangler that needed some work and I decided to go ahead and get either a two or three year-old vehicle or a brand new one if the price was right. I’ve looked at just about every AWD vehicle except for a Subaru. For some reason, I just wasn’t interested… And then something changed and I started checking them out. Once I did, I fell in love with the Crosstrek Wilderness…I went in and test drove one. They made me a great offer on discounts and on a trade-in for my Wrangler and I walked out of the dealership with a brand new car. That was three months ago and I’ve been very happy hopefully in three years from now I’m still very happy.
@@TJDawgs72 a week ago I went to our local Subaru dealer to test drive a Forester. While walking around the different trims, my BF told me to take a look at this Crosstrek Wilderness. I assumed it was too small compared to the Forester, but the salesman assured me that there was just as much leg and head room as the other. We sat in it and he was mostly correct. Long story short, I test drove both and fell in love with the CTW and I am the happy owner of it today. I feel it handled a little better and it’s so much fun!! I got a great trade (?) for my 2016 Colorado and only had to finance 1/2 of the purchase price so my payment is AWESOME!
I like my crosstrek. You can't beat the affordability for your buck. I got the wilderness, figured for an extra 1500$ why not. Moon roof and blacked out wheels easy to keep clean. I also love the carbon fiber trim I got the magnetic grey and that goes great with that trim.
I was torn between Toyota and a Subaru WRX and after hearing 9:38 that they donate to Meals on wheels you got my sale now. My mom last year when she had breast cancer and could not leave her house this organization brought her food EVERY day. I am forever grateful for them and seeing Subaru donates to them that got my business. Thank you for pointing this out.
Couldn’t agree more. Also, on the Forester you see exactly where the hood ends. Quite useful when making a u-turn on a narrow Austrian forest service road.
It's why I really liked my wifes Forester when she had it. People are wrapped up in what happens in an accident, but I like the approach of "what if you can see, so the accident doesn't happen?" I was actually heavily considering a forester as my next vehicle for that reason, but ultimately decided it was a little to small for our family and went with a small midsize SUV for the extra storage area. I will say, as much as I liked the Renegade I had, I won't buy one again because its outward visibility is downright dangerous. The absurd A pillar nearly caused 3 accidents in my 4 years of ownership, and is part of the reason it was totaled earlier this year. (Deer jumped out ans I couldn't see it)
Just got a 2025 Forester Sport - I've previously owned a 21 crosstrek and a 23 WRX - the 2025 build quality is noticeably improved - things i've experienced previously but notice are much improved: no random 'Subaru rattle' in the interior, door panels on the inside no longer sagging ever so slightly when pulling the door closed, and SUCH a QUIETER ride - that 40% noise reduction on the '25 build is no joke!
I had a great experience buying my Crosstrek. I cross shopped multiple Subaru dealers and they were all very upfront about the out the door price with no pressure
Great points Alex. Today, my elderly neighbor said he was looking for a new vehicle. Narrowed it down to a Forester or a Crosstrek. Said he was looking at the RAV4 and Toyota was stereotypical high pressure sales.
Two years ago I retired after 42yrs of being a Toyota Master Technician. I still have a 2013 Camry and my 1992 Camry wagon (still runs great). Three months ago I bought a new 2024 Outback and couldn’t be happier. Toyota’s stands behind their products very well but has too many issues so I switched brands and have no regrets.
I went from having 3 Toyota 4runners, 95,98,05..but then they started to get to big and I had frame rust issues so I started looking at outback and switchedb have had a 17,18 and now have a 20. It's a great car and has gotten better with each generation. But at this point I am a bit nervous of what the next generation outback is going to look like and if they are going to ruin it like happened with the 4runner. From everything I'm reading, even on plant Subaru site looks like it's gona go big and square and ruin the wagon crossover look. So I'm hoping this isn't my last outback,
Ok, so you're a Master Tech, you've had several Toyota's that you're happy with. You purchase a 2024 Subie and at 12 weeks or ownership you have no regrets....Wait until you at least break it in. Better yet let's put a 100K on it, keep your receipts and come back and tell us how great a vehicle it is.....I've owned 7 new Toyotas and 3 new Subarus, I know the answer.
I cannot believe someone supposedly a master Toyota tech. Would have a new vehicle for less than a year and swear it's the best thing ever. You haven't owned it long enough to even have a opinion.
Same. Had a 2008 Rav4 Base Model. Replaced the master brake cylinder 3 times, braking was always off. Burn oil like no tomorrow and Toyota never had a recall only a bulletin. Which meant only if the customer stated or brought it up would Toyota look at it. Had several recalls. For only having 117k miles. Traded it in for a 2023 Forester Premium. The model above base. Damn, it is night and day in tech, smooth transmission cvt, plenty of pep and really more comfortable and roomy. The Rav4 had the best design with the tire outside and had the secret compartment underneath the back. The Subaru has slightly less room in the trunk area but can't beat Subaru. So far I am happy.
The biggest issue I had was trying to purchase my Subaru locally at a Toyota/ Subaru dealership. They were not willing to negotiate with me, so I traveled from GA to VA to get my 2023 Outback and still love it. Helps the exclusively Subaru dealership in VA knocked almost $7,000 off the car too! Also, Toyota wanted almost $10,000 more for a RAV4 with the features I wanted vs the outback with better features for a way better price!
In 2022, during Covid, Toyota wanted $5000 over MSRP. Subaru sold my son a Forester for $500 under MSRP. So last month, shopping for myself, I went straight to Subaru and got a great deal. Loyalty works both ways.
No, The Toyota dealership you walked into wanted 5K over MSRP and the Subaru Dealership you walked into wanted 500 under MSRP. The manufacture didn't sell you a car, the dealer did. Don't mix up the two.
@@lorimcquinn3966 Yes. Some manufacturers, GM I think, famously told the dealers not to surcharge or they would lose their dealership. Other manufacturers, Toyota for instance, looked the other way. I must have made 30 phone calls to dealers within a 100 radius of my house. Every Toyota dealership was price-gouging.
@@seanzzila8yeah but that’s different. Usually infotainment systems are manufactured by a different company, then car manufacturers will buy them and make them work with their vehicles. I know Mazda and ford were working together building cars. Same with GM and Toyota with the Pontiac vibe/toyota matrix as well as geo prizm/totota corolla. What Subaru and Toyota have going right now is similar to that. Toyota owns a big portion of Subaru, so they actually are working together directly more and more
Had a Forester for 14 months now and have just completed its first lengthy trip. What a terrific touring machine this is. The roadholding and stability are tremendous, and while not a hotrod, the power is perfectly adequate for the size and weight of this vehicle. I've also been impressed with open road fuel economy. It has been extremely good and frankly unexpected because of the 4 wheel drive. All round, I have never owned or driven a better packaged car and I have driven many, many different brands and models over the years. Very pleased with this purchase.
@briansmith8950 I definitely understand what you're saying. We got our 2024 Forester Wilderness on January 6th. We just got back last week from our longest trip with either Forester (we had a 2022 Premium before this one), 3314 miles, and 10 states later. We averaged 27 - 29 mpg. Awesome vehicle!
In 22 I decided I wanted to get back into a smaller sports car with a manual. I was about to get MX5 when the twins dropped. So went to each dealership and at Toyota it was all pressure to get down payment or show me other cars. Subaru was ‘hey if you have questions find one of us’. Subaru did find answers when Toyota just said it is whatever it is or look it up on their website. Subaru also was MSRP only vs $4k markup on 86. It was such a great experience (a 1st) I went back and got my wife a Forester this year. It’s so comfortable & smooth to drive around. Finally found my car brand after 40 years of driving
Not only do I feel that the visibility for the driver is superior, the back seat passenger visibility is much better than the Rav4. The Rav4 seems to have front passenger headrests that block out what can be seen looking forward.
Similar here. We still have our 2002 Impreza which is now kids college car, my wife drives our 2009 Tribeca which is also our road trip car. And we just leased a Solterra EV so I can get to/from work and local errands “on the cheap” (compared to buying any ICE as our third vehicle). Subaru all the way since 1998 (our first which was an Outback).
I have had few Subarus since 1994. After a couple of blown head gaskets and finally total failure of the diesel engine, I am now a happy Lexus (=Toyota) owner, never looking back. All old good Subaru turbo engines are gone and the best you can get is 169 HP on Outback which is simply not enough for such a big car. It could be different in the US, but here in Europe there is no point of having one any more.
I was comparing cars such as Toyota, Honda Kia, & Nissan, in AWD system, price, options, Subaru came out on top. I'm now the proud owner of a 2024 Subaru Crosstrek Wilderness, and I'm loving it !!!!! 🏆🏆SUBARU🏆🏆 Best Bang for your Buck 🤑💰
Love your content! On my 2nd Outback XT… because I love them. Here’s a note: Toyota owns about 20% of Subaru Corporation, which is the parent company of Subaru. Subaru holds a 0.3% stake in Toyota. In addition, Camrys have been built in Subaru plants since 2007, and the new Solterra in a Toyota factory. Also, I recently investigated a crash involving a 2024 Camry where there was a reinforced rear passenger door similar to those of Subies. I LOVE MY LOCAL SUBARU DEALERS!
OMG, thank you for pointing out the A pillar visibility! I almost ran over an older woman in a parking lot in my Toyota as I just didn't see her. Came within inches.
We have a 2020 Forester. She has got us through a lot of things like deer crossing on the Trans Canada (aka The 1) highway, and treacherous weather on BC's Coquihallla highway. Never a problem with slush in the Pacific Northwest. Also the perfect car for a family with two hockey and lacrosse players. We love our Subaru ❤❤❤
Toyota rav 4; 2023, mine is averaging over 45 MPG and being hybrid it has excellent acceleration and comfortable as well, i was thinking about the subaru for the off road capabilities, but for driving on the paved roads the toyota with its better MPG and resale is hands down the winner. I'm 75 and have owned nearly 100 different vehicles and the toyota suv and tacoma are the best 2 vehicles i have ever owned.
We had a 2012 Outback until last year when we got a new 2024 Outback. I can say that we liked the old one better. It got better gas mileage. We don't enjoy all the screen electronics ... we have to take our eyes off the road to find buttons. We probably won't keep this one as long as we did the old one.
Ditto. Upgraded from my trusty Forester to an Ascent last year. Purposely looked for a used 2022 to avoid the screen, lack of physical buttons and knobs and to get the extended thigh support. 2022 was also the last year for the dedicated second screen that shows the built in nav and car data (above the radio) and the CD player. I love those. No regrets.
Bought our first OutBack LTD a 97, the 2nd OutBack LTD a 2002, the 3rd OutBack LTD a 2007, the 4th OutBack LTD a 2012, The 5th OutbBack Premier (CDN model) a 2017, and presently my wife has a 2019 Forester LTD and I have a 2022 OutBack LTD. We agree with your assessment that Subaru dealers are much easier to bargain with, and they take care of their customers without the "games" being played. As well, other than 2 minor recalls, and 3 minor warranty issues in total, none of these vehicles has required anything more than regular servicing. That said, our cars don't get to have more than 120 000 km ( 70 000 mi) or 5 years before we trade up, and they were all 1 year old when purchased. I'm already looking forward to my next OutBack in 2027.( Prior to my wife's Forester, she had 2 Toyota Cressida's and then 3 Lexus ES300/ES350's.) Like you said ... Subaru and Toyota are darn good vehicles.
I had a Toyota. Now I have a Subaru Forester 2025 Touring. Visibility over the hood was vital to my 5'2" wife. Once she sat in the Subaru and looked over the hood all the debates were over. I also feel like Toyota is a city car. We live in the upper midwest and travel to family all year. Subaru feels like a better car on the Interstate. Some of our relatives live in rural areas. Subaru is much better on rural roads and long, hilly gravel driveways. We have not had snow or bad weather yet, but I think the AWD is going to help as well.
Same here. We chose a Forester over a Toyota Venza for my wife for the same visibility concerns. Subarus have more ride height, bigger tires, and of course the superior AWD. Just more capable vehicles overall. We've had 5 Subarus in a row for all of those reasons.
I sold Subarus back when the Crosstrek first came out. Luckily there was a side road where we could stop the car and change out to the customer. We stopped the cars with the passenger side on gravel and told the customers to floor it starting out ( I tested this start with some used non Subie AWD cars Subies were the only ones that took off without spinning. I have a 2005 Subaru Outback XT Limited manual and a 2023 Toyota Tacoma TRD OR AccessCab. I got my truck because I need the open bed cargo. I bought my Outback from my friend and he lifted it 1-1.5”. I do like driving my Outback. I also got my Tacoma so I can go Overlanding as TFL showed a letter received by a Crosstrek (I believe) owner stating that they could receive a $5,000 fine for driving in an off-road area from some BLM. I believe it’s because of AWD and the way it works versus 4x4.
I had a Camry and a Tacoma from 2003-2023 but switched to a 2023 Outback and am very happy. Absolutely agreed on driver seat visibility: far better in the Outback. Both the Camry and the Tacoma then at least had very dangerous A pillars, and I had a number of near collisions leaving stop signs with cars coming from the right because of it. This has not been a problem at all in the Outback. Agreed as well on safety and consumer-oriented Subie dealers.
A little over a year ago I sold my old Toyota Corolla and got a shiny and beautiful Subaru Forester and I love it! It is a nice and spacious vehicle, more fuel eficient than I initially thought and it drives smooth and stable. The whole experience at Subaru was and it has been fenomenal, I keep going to the dealer for regular maintenance and I am very pleased with the service. Love my Subaru Forester!
My family and I are loyal Subaru customers for life. Literally and figuratively. We bought one (1) Toyota product years ago and were treated like garbage by the dealer and had to tell a VP at corporate he, and Toyota Corp, "lost face" with me due to a repair issue. Our local Subaru dealer is honest, treats us like human beings and corporate customer service is the same. Also, my daughter and two grand kids were T boned by another car, and while her 2010 Forester was totaled, they all walked away from it. With six cars in, Subaru is the only brand we have, and will, consider.
Very curious to see your future video on why Subaru is going “full force” to EVs when they aren’t selling in almost every other manufacturer. Knowing we don’t have the infrastructure for it right now… I think they could focus on gas and hybrids but not full EV. Again that’s my opinion. The Prius and RAV4 / Highlander hybrids have soared in sales. They are so efficient and reliable. I work for Toyota and just bought a 25 Forester. I love my Subaru. It feels solid, safe, and less tinny than the RAV4. I will say….I’m not looking forward to the maintenance as it requires more since it has the two differentials but it’s worth it for the area I live in. I am not opposed to hybrid but it isn’t my first choice however I do back them more than EVs because they fit more people’s lifestyles like travelers and daily commuters.
Customer service for Subaru is far better than Toyota. Every Toyota dealer I have ever dealt with acts like it’s a “privilege” for you to do business with them. Subaru feels like home in nearly every dealer I’ve been to.
Overall, you're correct. Our local Toyota dealers were constantly trying to rebuild the car every time we brought it in for service, well above what the Toyota recommended factory service would state. And if you walked out of the waiting area while your car was being serviced, you had Jose & Chico constantly badgering you to trade your "old" (2 years old!) Toyota on a new one. Ran into that with two local Toyota dealers, and also ran into a vicious battle over a warranty service. And now I drive a Subaru - peaceful and reliable. No wonder Toyota has had a 19% interest in Subaru for 13 years!
I absolutely love my 2016 outback limited. It’s got 63k miles and I’m hoping it lasts me a lifetime lol the handling and ride make me so comfortable that I always want to drive.
Could not agree with you more. This year both my wife and I, looked very strongly at Toyota, comparing models to Subaru. We both went with Subaru, our #6 & #7 Subaru. My third Outback and my wife went with the 24 Solterra. Love them both. Our Subaru dealer was great. Looking forward to the hybrid Outback.
I liked my leased 2020 Outback Limited that I bought it when my lease was over. Have been Subaru owners for years, my wife last August ordered a 2024 Legacy Touring XT. It is the 8th Subaru vehicle we have either leased or owned, and have not experienced any major problems. If we needed anything (tires, wiper blades, low tire pressure), our local Subaru dealer took care of them immediately, even if we didn’t have an appointment! I have had no problems in updating either the the console software or installing the map updates (either over the air or using a memory stick). Will be Subaru owners for the rest of our lives.
Alex, you should have someone help you shoot these videos so you don't have to shoot this as a "selfie". Your videos are still pretty good. In my limited experience shopping for a Rav 4 and Forester in 2022 and 2023, the Subaru dealership experience has been far more pleasant. Your observations about the two brands' dealers seem to be accurate (again in my limited experience). I live most of the year in southern Vietnam and bought a 2023 Forester here. It was made in Thailand. So far I am very much pleased with this car. We also plan to purchase a Forester in the US within the next year.
I could not agree more about the relationship with Subaru dealerships and their customers. The last two vehicles I've purchased have been Subarus and I have owned five Toyotas. Buying a Toyota is a hassle. Plain and simple. And now, legitimately no haggling with them. One of the reasons I left Toyota was because of their increasing prices. When I was looking to buy a vehicle back In 2022, I did go back and look at some Toyotas. What I found was that firstly, they are seriously aggressive. I know that you're trying to sell a vehicle, but I don't need that kind of aggression in my life. Secondly, they flat out tell you that when you look at the MSRP there is an automatic $5,000 markup. Plain and simple, full stop. Last month I bought my second Subaru and part of the reason was because I had such a wonderful experience with the dealership I purchased my first one from. This was no different, no markup. Zero markup. I got it for MSRP and because I was a repeat customer, I got quite a few extras that normally don't come on the Outback premium trim, and no markup. They're practically giving these cars away, and there's no stress and no pressure. When I bought my first one, I was only there to look and the sales person was so sweet and so kind, and she didn't even take my phone number. She gave me her card and said let me know if and when you're ready to buy and that was it. No texting me, no calling me, no putting any pressure whatsoever. To put this into perspective, I also did look at Nissan at a dealership where I had formerly been a customer and they texted and called and emailed so much that I finally had to tell the salesperson that I felt that this was harassment at this point, and if I were considering buying from that dealership again, those days were done. Purchasing your vehicle should be just as fun as driving your vehicle, and Subaru dealerships are outstanding. Absolutely outstanding. When I bought my 2025 Outback last month, all of their systems were down. They couldn't do credit checks, they couldn't do appraisals, nothing. But they had already offered me a deal and said even if when our systems come up, it doesn't matter what it says. This is what we promised you and this is what we're going to do and if it doesn't work, we'll make it work. They did that and more, due to my work schedule I wasn't able to get back to the dealership for a week, so they delivered my car and brought the paperwork to my house. I don't know if other dealerships operate like that but I'm not going to find out because I seriously doubt I will ever buy another vehicle other than a Subaru.
5 Subaru's cars at last 20 years and now. Really engineering wonder, AWD, opposite motor. Crosstrek really the best city crossover and nature adventure for weekend. Thanks for video.
My car buying experience was far more superior than any experience I’ve had with any other car company that I was considering to buy from- The vehicle sold itself but the sales, manager, finance were absolutely wonderful to work with- I’ve been buying cars for 30+ years and Subaru wasn’t on my radar because I’m not an outdoorsy off road driver- I was all prepared to buy a Honda ( after also considering Toyota) but found those experiences to be flat- My nephew has a Subaru and told me to give it a try- Test drove a Limited Forester and was sold- Safety being my top priority…then all the other desirables- Best experience ever! Subaru isn’t just for outdoorsy people😁
I initially planned to buy a used Rav4 4mo. ago for my 18yrs old son, but ended up bought a used 2020 Forester touring. Toyota is too expensive, even the used ones. Well, what I discovered after drive this Forester for a few days and compare it to my wife 2017 Highlander Platinum in terms of safety.... My wife and I agreed that Subaru Eyesight system is better than Toyota safety senses. It picks up more accurate and more sensitive than Toyota. I don't know how to explain but you have to drive one to see the difference. My Honda just involved in totalled lost recently and I decided to buy the 2024 Outback touring after doing some research. I still love Toyota and Honda but what I'm thinking is, buying Subaru is smarter.
I love my current 2018 and 2015 Legacy and loved my first Subaru, a 1988 GL. My concern is that I like driving a sedan and there is no sedan in the future lineup leaving me with few choices. The Camry is one of the few available options. I hope sedans make a comeback. (I also love a manual transmission)
I just bought the 2025 legacy. Had a 2012 legacy and needed a new car, shopped around for other sedans but i just ended up getting another Legacy, the last model before its discontinued. There was not enough about the accord or camry that made me pull the trigger. Even looked at acura and lexus, but didnt feel they were worth 60-70k. 2025 Legacy is so nice!
This is my 2nd Subaru, a 2021 Outback Limited. I love my car. I live in NYC, the roads are terrible here, the drivers are worse. I feel safe in my Outback and roll over raggedy roads with ease!!
Good review. I have owned both Toyota and Subaru, I’ll stick with Subaru. I do enjoy watching other videos that highlight the longevity and the mileage that is also well past 300,000 miles for Subaru‘s. Where as Toyota fanboys only think that Toyotas can go that high in mileage, sorry to burst that bubble.
I purchased a new 2019 Subaru Ascent. What made my decision was the fit and finish of the vehicle. No squeaks or movement when touching the interior finishes. I much prefer a cloth seat and the design was outstanding and comfortable. It had tremendous pick up when needed and I also had the panoramic roof. Yet 5 years later, I felt priced out of the market and opted for a newly designed Hyunda Santa Fe.
Subaru is working on a hybrid next for the Forester! My guess is that they will be creating this off the back of Toyota since they have done so well with the RAV4.
Toyota owns 20% of Subaru, and among many other things, they're rumored to be working hybrids together. Hopefully that's true, and that something great will come of it.
@@ropersix that would be amazing! I love my Suabru but I just would love to have a hybrid platform to get 35 + The AWD is amazing, purely amazing in inclement weather and it’s why I got Suabru.
In a similar vein the Mazda CX-50 hybrid is due out by the end of the year and will also be based on the RAV4. As long as that power train proves to be reliable it will be a great platform to find cheaper parts and repairs for years to come.
I bought a ‘24 CTW a week ago and that thing is so much fun to drive. Rides so smoothly and is as cute and sporty as anything out there. My BF is so impressed with it and its safety features he is seriously considering getting the OBW soon as he needs more cargo room!
On our 2017 Forester the oil consumption was crazy. Subaru eventually changed the engine block after much foot dragging. The blind spot warning system rusted out (we decided not to cough up the CAD $2000to replace). The engine warning light comes on for no real reason from time to time. The list goes on. It’s my wife’s car and she still loves it and the visibility is great as is the all wheel drive.
I am a first time Subaru owner and absolutely love my 2025 Forrester. My comment is specifically geared toward salesmen. Had I not watched your TH-cam video the day I purchased my vehicle things might have gone terribly wrong the first time I went to a car wash. My salesman never told me about turning off the pre collision tab and AVH prior to going through a car wash. I would recommend all salesmen tell new Subaru owners about this. Thank you for all of your very informative videos.
Glad you had a good experience! You shouldn't have to turn the pre collision braking off now in the newer subarus, but AVH is always a good one to turn off when going through the car wash!
@@alexpmoHi Alex, thanks for the videos - helped me select a 24 Forester. Do you think you could do a video about being a Subaru car sales professional- sort of a virtual job shadow? I have seen some openings and it would really help me decide if it is something I should pursue.
@@bethwarrick1222why not just wash he car yourself?I am 76 years old some medical problems,let I get my butt,out there nd wash,and yes hand way the Subaru with old time paste wax!The excercise will do you wonders!If you don’t use it you will loose it!Since 2006,have had 4 Outback’s,great cars,my 2024 Forest green metallic,premium is WOW!Stated driving in 1963,at 15 years old!Ifyou would of told me that when I was 76 years old,I would be driving a 4 cylinder,Japanese car,I would of told you you were Nuts!Thomas A.Filipiak Palos Hills Illinois!The Auto Barn Subaru dealer in Country side Illinois,is a top notch dealership!!!
Just the all wheel drive on its own is reason enough to buy one our crosstrek performed in the snow outstanding it would not get stuck suburu is family now .
A recent Consumer Reports video featured two reviewers who nitpicked the '25 Forester. Then, one of them mentioned how they took it out in the country with their bike and the other mentioned how they went camping with it. The tone completely changed. Subaru = Adventure = Fun, more so than other SUVs.
I had a 2003 VW diesel Jetta Wagon. I drove it for 17 years until the body rot got beyond control. There was only 150k on the engine. I loved the fuel mileage (normally in the mid-40s in-town) and the practicality of the wagon body. Then diesel prices went through the roof and the car, with its low ground clearance and manual transmission, was beating up my aging body, especially on long drives. I started considering a new car. I began doing research, and narrowed it down to a few makes and models. Being very impressed with my daughter's 2017 Outback (They are a Subie family - daughter's Outback, son-in-laws Legacy, and granddaughters Crosstrek) I settled on a new 2020 Outback. I've been very pleased so far. There are a few quirks, things I've had to adapt for, but no major problems. It's very comfortable, and does very well in Michigan winters. Even after the dealership changed hands, the service department has been solid, and seems very conscientious when it comes to my car's maintenance. They advise, but don't push, services that could extend the life and functionality of the car. I appreciate that. I think Subaru, as a brand, deserves the loyalty of their customers.
It’s well known that Subarus have the best visibility especially the Forester and the Outback. CR consistently rates them as the best in that department.. Our family has owned 7 Subarus since 1996. Our 1996 Outback and 2001 Forester had head gadget issues. I wish my current 2022 Outback Onyx 2.5 had Toyotas hybrid system and a surround view camera, otherwise it’s perfect. I get over 30 mpg on road trips even with my Inno roof box on the car. Here in the Pacnw at sea level the 2.5 if fine. If I lived in Colorado I’d consider getting the turbo.
I drove a 2021 Subaru Outback and loved it. It was reliable and comfortable to drive. Its ability to 'goat' up a muddy road was impressive. Yet I bought a 2023 Toyota Tacoma because I needed a truck. If Subaru built a competitive truck to Toyota ... they might open up a new market.
I live in the Pacific NW: mountain snow driving. Lots of people have them. I’ve had two, my aunt has one, my mom and the list goes on. IMO the Boxer engine sucks. Old design and Subaru just tweaks systems that attach to them. When it leaks, often, you smell oil burning big time until you get it fixed. Fume poisoning. Sick of it. My mom and my best buddy had massive oil leaks and engines replaced. Subaru denying the problems for 10 years. They offer No Hybrid at the current time. Toyota is light years ahead on this. Head gasket problems are real. CVT transmission issues common. Maybe they fixed some of these issues but my friends and family have suffered over and over. Yes they drive nice and initial quality is good and all wheel drive is good but at medium age Subarus turn junk compared to most Toyotas. I’ve seen way too much to ever buy another Subaru. Sorry Subaru sports fans.
I’m now driving my second Outback and always speak highly of Subaru when people ask me about my car. The best car purchasing experience I’ve ever had was when I bought my 2023 Outback Wilderness edition. The dealership and the salesperson were fantastic. Oh, and Alex, I bought it from the dealership you work for!
My best friend has an Acura and has driven my Subaru Outback many times and always comments on how much smoother the drive is and how the visibility is so much better! I never realized it was because of the mirror placement!
I came from an '21 RDX to '24 Outback, and I can't agree more. I thought the RDX was comfortable and ride was good, but Outback really surprises me that it is actually feels better, may be not by a lot but certainly better!
When I was shopping for a small SUV a few months ago, I narrowed it down to the Mazda CX30, Honda HR-V, Toyota Corolla Cross or Camry or the 2024 Crosstrek Sport or Base if I decided on the 2.0 boxer. I test drove them all, sometimes twice. I ended up with the 2024 Crosstrek Sport. The Sport had a 2.5ltr engine and was quieter and could climb local hills without sounding like the engine would jump through the hood LOL. (my 2024 Crosstrek Sport is getting about 38mpg on the Las Vegas beltway too) The Honda HR-V had low engine noise, but was gutless on hills and much worse highway road noise, from the tires and suspension. The Toyotas were finally ruled out, because Toyota dealers are downright predatory in the Las Vegas, Nv area... They tried to sell me used Rav 4s and used Corollas for the same or higher price than the New 2024 Crosstrek Sport I bought. The sales people at Toyota were some of the worst I've ever dealt with, not afraid to lie to your face at all.... This is a surprise, because the same dealer group in our area, owns the Subaru, Toyota, Honda and Mazda dealers... but the sales people at Toyota were awful. Mazda got ruled out do to horrible seats and the weird infotainment controls. As a side note, the Crosstreks feel like a much bigger car in the suspension, but handled corners fine, which is nice on our deteriorating roads. The Mazda and Honda were close in the sporty handling but harsh on bumps. I never test drove the Toyotas, because the sales people were so predatory... Never going back to them ever again. As a parting comment, I also checkd out the small Hyundai SUV, the Kona. It has horrible seats and I got lucky by the time of day. The all glass instruments and display vanished in late afternoon sunlight, hitting the dash at the right angle... even at full brighness. It was a 2024 Kona, and it had just been put on the lot that morning, and even the salesman was shocked and apologized. He hadn't seen a new Kona yet, and couldn't believe under certain lighting, every single dash display was unreadable.
Purchased a new Outback Limited last year (2023) and couldn't be happier with the car itself. My gripe with Subaru is what they charge for service!!! First grease job, oil change and tire rotation was $110.00. Five months later add in an air filter and it was $167.00. That's crazy! Local independent shops in my area are $70-$75. As soon as my 3-year warrantee is over, I'll probably never set foot in a Subaru dealership again. Price gouging at its finest!
I have had 3 Outbacks and now a Crosstrek. Just love this car and the others as well but the changes they have made over the years are great. Got a great price on Carvana for my 15 OB so decided to sell and get a brand new Crosstrek. VERY happy!
First I really enjoy your TH-cam videos. The info is easy to understand and a lot to think about. A friend is now bringing request to sell her Subaru to the dealership. I went with her and I can say the hard sell was extremely visible. The more we hedged the dealer numbers were flying at us and we very fast lost interest and left the dealer. Did not expect three sales men trying to buy my friends car. As per this video no Toyota for me. Not even entertaining a future purchase.
I have to disagree with the mirror placements on Subaru. The mirrors are too far back in my opinion and takes your eyes away from the road while looking at your right side mirror in particular. Visibility is still good, but the mirror thing still bugs me.
I just bought a Crosstrek Wilderness and I am super happy with the buying experience. Much much better than Toyota. I love the way Subarus drive. They feel really solid and planted. The Boxer engine is so smooth. I really like the use of parts across their model range which is clearly allowing them to focus on making their products better. Subaru AWD is superior to any other at the same price point. We traded in a Toyota Prius for our Crosstrek so in comparison, it feels like a tank. I have no complaints about the power as some have complained about. It has plenty of power and I like that Subaru still offers vehicles with naturally aspirated engines. I highly recommend Subaru vehicles.
They’re as durable and long lasting as anything else out there as long as you perform regularly scheduled maintenance. Change the oil every 6k miles, tranny fluid every 40k. Have the plugs and internal components checked and/or replaced as needed.
My problem width Subaru or Toyota brands is why are they such ugly cars, they reliable, good engineered vehicles but ruined by the aesthetics of how they look all the angular body work. Maybe someone likes the look, although I think most owners, don’t consider how they look is an important criteria. Just my opinion. If they only improved how they looked I buy one, the interiors are ok.
@@alinatamashevich3354 Yeah, I know, much of the problem. I don't think I could afford to maintain the 4xe. I'd rather stick with a conventional low-performer.
I like Toyota cars but not their dealers. Late last year I was shopping for a Fact at my local Toyota dealer. The salesman kept telling me the Brave is short in supply both hybrid and gas versions. He then tried very hard to talk me to buy the EV hard which a lot of people hated. When I turned him down firmly but politely, he indicated that if I would take a lease deal then I may get a Fact sooner(in a few weeks). I walked away since I don't like paying thousands of dollars more than necessary just to get the car faster. I ended up buying a Mazda CX5. I'm happy I did. It serves me well. I would like it more if it is a hybrid but CX5 has no hybrid ver yet. I hope something can be done to stop these sales tactics that's both annoying and almost dishonest!
I've owned both Toyota and Subaru. Subaru's experience is second to none compared to that of others, including Toyota. My Toyota Camry was totaled in 2020, and after researching cars on Consumer Reports, I landed between Subaru, Toyota, and Honda. I test-drove vehicles from all three dealers and was floored by Subaru's customer service and sales experience. No mark-ups above MSRP, honest conversations, and I walked away feeling great with the experience. I paid more for my 2020 Forester Touring than if I went with the others, but the experience was incredible. I just bought my second Subaru, a 2024 Outback, and I love it! I live and die by Consumer Reports recommendations. And my two cars have been incredible to drive--why did I wait so long?
When I bought my Subaru, I compared pricing (used) at three different Subaru dealerships in my area. Two of them had the same pricing for comparable year and model. The third one had noticeably higher prices across the board, and also added $1,000 to the price if you chose to purchase all cash instead of financing.
Even my 2005 Subaru Outback has those hook slots on the rear doors!!! I love my car soo much that when my head gaskets went out last spring I spent the 4 thousand to get it done and never looked back. Would never spend this much on a Ford or Chev, but my Subi is my guardian and partner!
I've had both Subaru's and Toyota's in the past and I wouldn't hesitate to buy either one of them again. I'd say Subaru is more pleasant to drive but Toyota probably beats them in reliability.
I’m on my third ,3 year lease with Crosstrexs .Best ! Vehicles I’ve owned, they’re affordable, Practical,handle very well and good on gas. Never got stuck in ice or snow lol . Subarus were the best keep secret, now everyone has one 😂
When I bought my first Subaru, a 2016 2.5i Legacy Premium, I was looking for a mid size sedan with AWD. There were few other options and they were significantly higher trim level and price and not available with Toyota. While optional at the time, I was able to get Eyesight and Blind Spot Monitoring / Cross Traffic alert which I wanted with the thought I'd have new drivers in a few years. I was able to buy it under invoice with 36 month 0% interest rate financing. My daughter now has it at college. 11 Months ago I bought a '23 Ascent Limited with Tech Package which I was able to get equipped like I wanted for a great deal near the invoice price. The problem with the Toyota Highlander was there was very limited supply, and they had all these distributor options I didn't want, things like Running Boards and integrated dash cameras, which added thousands to the price. In both cases at 2 different Subaru dealers in 2 different states I was able to get great deals and find Subaru offers good value for the money.
Had a rental '24 Subaru Outback for a couple of weeks. Some criticisms. The unboosted version is ponderously slow. It struggled on Boston freeway on ramps. I gritted my teeth getting up to speed in heavy traffic. 2nd criticism is the Outback is top-heavy and unstable on offramps, I suspect this car will flip easily in a panic situation. It wallows like a garbage scow. You've got to keep the speed down on tight curves and offramps. 3rd thing to be aware of....If you are not a tech nerd you will hate the dash display and infotainment system. If you are techie, you'll love it. Very busy with lots of things going on and settings to use. I loved it but if you don't engage in tech, 90% of the features will not be used, or even discovered. Many common settings were hard to find. Otherwise , the Outback was plush, nice seats, smooth transmission, easy to get in and out of, supple ride, quiet and easy to park.
Although recent Subaru vehicles have improved mileage, they can use more efficiency and more power. Adopting Toyota's hybrid designs would be a great move.
Our last two vehicles were a Toyota Camry and now a Subaru Outback. I am much more pleased with the Outback and with the quality of support and service that we get from our local Subaru Dealership. They go out of their way to be friendly and helpful. I'm now a committed Subaru owner.
100% spot on about Toyota vs. Subaru dealers, this is what I've experienced.
When I was car shopping last fall visiting many brands, I was directed to a Subaru dealer in my city. I said to the sales person "I am just looking right now, don't know what brand of car I will buy or when I will buy it". He still took the time to show me a Crosstrek, explained the engine, the features etc. After two months of doing research and visiting many places, I returned and asked for a test drive. A week later I ordered a Crosstrek, have not regretted it, Especially comfortable on a 4000 kilometre trip (2400 miles).
I’ve had similar experiences with Subaru dealers
I test drove a Crosstrek when they first came out and still like them. Couldn’t buy one because I needed a 7-seater. Also I’m not comfortable having the dealer an hour away.
Kinda did something similar…I had an 11 year-old Jeep Wrangler that needed some work and I decided to go ahead and get either a two or three year-old vehicle or a brand new one if the price was right. I’ve looked at just about every AWD vehicle except for a Subaru. For some reason, I just wasn’t interested… And then something changed and I started checking them out. Once I did, I fell in love with the Crosstrek Wilderness…I went in and test drove one. They made me a great offer on discounts and on a trade-in for my Wrangler and I walked out of the dealership with a brand new car. That was three months ago and I’ve been very happy hopefully in three years from now I’m still very happy.
@@TJDawgs72 a week ago I went to our local Subaru dealer to test drive a Forester. While walking around the different trims, my BF told me to take a look at this Crosstrek Wilderness. I assumed it was too small compared to the Forester, but the salesman assured me that there was just as much leg and head room as the other. We sat in it and he was mostly correct. Long story short, I test drove both and fell in love with the CTW and I am the happy owner of it today. I feel it handled a little better and it’s so much fun!! I got a great trade (?) for my 2016 Colorado and only had to finance 1/2 of the purchase price so my payment is AWESOME!
I like my crosstrek. You can't beat the affordability for your buck. I got the wilderness, figured for an extra 1500$ why not. Moon roof and blacked out wheels easy to keep clean. I also love the carbon fiber trim I got the magnetic grey and that goes great with that trim.
I was torn between Toyota and a Subaru WRX and after hearing 9:38 that they donate to Meals on wheels you got my sale now. My mom last year when she had breast cancer and could not leave her house this organization brought her food EVERY day. I am forever grateful for them and seeing Subaru donates to them that got my business. Thank you for pointing this out.
When I bought my 2023 Forester, the salesman said the visibility is so good "it's like driving in a fishbowl" and damned if that's not true!
lol not a bad analogy
One of the reasons I love them. Visibility is second to none.
Yes, that's one of reasons I bought Forester instead of RAV4. Visibility is amazing.
Couldn’t agree more. Also, on the Forester you see exactly where the hood ends. Quite useful when making a u-turn on a narrow Austrian forest service road.
It's why I really liked my wifes Forester when she had it. People are wrapped up in what happens in an accident, but I like the approach of "what if you can see, so the accident doesn't happen?"
I was actually heavily considering a forester as my next vehicle for that reason, but ultimately decided it was a little to small for our family and went with a small midsize SUV for the extra storage area.
I will say, as much as I liked the Renegade I had, I won't buy one again because its outward visibility is downright dangerous. The absurd A pillar nearly caused 3 accidents in my 4 years of ownership, and is part of the reason it was totaled earlier this year. (Deer jumped out ans I couldn't see it)
Just got a 2025 Forester Sport - I've previously owned a 21 crosstrek and a 23 WRX - the 2025 build quality is noticeably improved - things i've experienced previously but notice are much improved: no random 'Subaru rattle' in the interior, door panels on the inside no longer sagging ever so slightly when pulling the door closed, and SUCH a QUIETER ride - that 40% noise reduction on the '25 build is no joke!
I had a great experience buying my Crosstrek. I cross shopped multiple Subaru dealers and they were all very upfront about the out the door price with no pressure
Great points Alex. Today, my elderly neighbor said he was looking for a new vehicle. Narrowed it down to a Forester or a Crosstrek. Said he was looking at the RAV4 and Toyota was stereotypical high pressure sales.
Two years ago I retired after 42yrs of being a Toyota Master Technician. I still have a 2013 Camry and my 1992 Camry wagon (still runs great). Three months ago I bought a new 2024 Outback and couldn’t be happier. Toyota’s stands behind their products very well but has too many issues so I switched brands and have no regrets.
I went from having 3 Toyota 4runners, 95,98,05..but then they started to get to big and I had frame rust issues so I started looking at outback and switchedb have had a 17,18 and now have a 20. It's a great car and has gotten better with each generation. But at this point I am a bit nervous of what the next generation outback is going to look like and if they are going to ruin it like happened with the 4runner. From everything I'm reading, even on plant Subaru site looks like it's gona go big and square and ruin the wagon crossover look. So I'm hoping this isn't my last outback,
Ok, so you're a Master Tech, you've had several Toyota's that you're happy with. You purchase a 2024 Subie and at 12 weeks or ownership you have no regrets....Wait until you at least break it in. Better yet let's put a 100K on it, keep your receipts and come back and tell us how great a vehicle it is.....I've owned 7 new Toyotas and 3 new Subarus, I know the answer.
I cannot believe someone supposedly a master Toyota tech. Would have a new vehicle for less than a year and swear it's the best thing ever. You haven't owned it long enough to even have a opinion.
Same. Had a 2008 Rav4 Base Model. Replaced the master brake cylinder 3 times, braking was always off. Burn oil like no tomorrow and Toyota never had a recall only a bulletin. Which meant only if the customer stated or brought it up would Toyota look at it. Had several recalls. For only having 117k miles. Traded it in for a 2023 Forester Premium. The model above base. Damn, it is night and day in tech, smooth transmission cvt, plenty of pep and really more comfortable and roomy. The Rav4 had the best design with the tire outside and had the secret compartment underneath the back. The Subaru has slightly less room in the trunk area but can't beat Subaru. So far I am happy.
Nice job Alex. Always find your videos informative.
The biggest issue I had was trying to purchase my Subaru locally at a Toyota/ Subaru dealership. They were not willing to negotiate with me, so I traveled from GA to VA to get my 2023 Outback and still love it. Helps the exclusively Subaru dealership in VA knocked almost $7,000 off the car too!
Also, Toyota wanted almost $10,000 more for a RAV4 with the features I wanted vs the outback with better features for a way better price!
In 2022, during Covid, Toyota wanted $5000 over MSRP. Subaru sold my son a Forester for $500 under MSRP. So last month, shopping for myself, I went straight to Subaru and got a great deal. Loyalty works both ways.
No, The Toyota dealership you walked into wanted 5K over MSRP and the Subaru Dealership you walked into wanted 500 under MSRP. The manufacture didn't sell you a car, the dealer did. Don't mix up the two.
Ya I was going to say lmao what you paid and mechanical reliability are 2 different things
@@lorimcquinn3966 Yes. Some manufacturers, GM I think, famously told the dealers not to surcharge or they would lose their dealership. Other manufacturers, Toyota for instance, looked the other way. I must have made 30 phone calls to dealers within a 100 radius of my house. Every Toyota dealership was price-gouging.
@@connorpoultney4400are you saying Subarus are not reliable? That’s the first I’ve heard that.
@@lorimcquinn3966man, you just know it all don’t you?
Toyota and Subaru are so much alike that they actually share parts and technology.
Some platforms or systems. Mazda and Toyota shared their infotainment screen on a couple models, too in the 20teens.
Apples to oranges. Sorry Toyota fan boys…….they’re going down, too many issues
@@seanzzila8yeah but that’s different. Usually infotainment systems are manufactured by a different company, then car manufacturers will buy them and make them work with their vehicles. I know Mazda and ford were working together building cars. Same with GM and Toyota with the Pontiac vibe/toyota matrix as well as geo prizm/totota corolla. What Subaru and Toyota have going right now is similar to that. Toyota owns a big portion of Subaru, so they actually are working together directly more and more
Had a Forester for 14 months now and have just completed its first lengthy trip. What a terrific touring machine this is. The roadholding and stability are tremendous, and while not a hotrod, the power is perfectly adequate for the size and weight of this vehicle. I've also been impressed with open road fuel economy. It has been extremely good and frankly unexpected because of the 4 wheel drive. All round, I have never owned or driven a better packaged car and I have driven many, many different brands and models over the years. Very pleased with this purchase.
@briansmith8950 I definitely understand what you're saying. We got our 2024 Forester Wilderness on January 6th. We just got back last week from our longest trip with either Forester (we had a 2022 Premium before this one), 3314 miles, and 10 states later. We averaged 27 - 29 mpg. Awesome vehicle!
In 22 I decided I wanted to get back into a smaller sports car with a manual. I was about to get MX5 when the twins dropped. So went to each dealership and at Toyota it was all pressure to get down payment or show me other cars. Subaru was ‘hey if you have questions find one of us’. Subaru did find answers when Toyota just said it is whatever it is or look it up on their website. Subaru also was MSRP only vs $4k markup on 86. It was such a great experience (a 1st) I went back and got my wife a Forester this year. It’s so comfortable & smooth to drive around. Finally found my car brand after 40 years of driving
Happy to hear about your Subaru experience. The BRZ is a fun car and I'm sure you'll both enjoy your Forester for many years to come!
Own a forester xt, 80,000 and never ADDED oil between oil changes. The bunk that Subarus burn oil is just that.
That A-pillar visibility has been important in high pedestrian areas, have been thankful for it.
Not only do I feel that the visibility for the driver is superior, the back seat passenger visibility is much better than the Rav4. The Rav4 seems to have front passenger headrests that block out what can be seen looking forward.
My 2023 Subaru Ascent is my first "foreign" car ever. I absolutely LOVE it. Great experience with the dealer. Your videos are super helpful!
I have had a Subaru since 2006 . I bought a new one in 2016. I love my Subaru ❤️❤️❤️❤️❤️
Similar here. We still have our 2002 Impreza which is now kids college car, my wife drives our 2009 Tribeca which is also our road trip car. And we just leased a Solterra EV so I can get to/from work and local errands “on the cheap” (compared to buying any ICE as our third vehicle). Subaru all the way since 1998 (our first which was an Outback).
I have had few Subarus since 1994. After a couple of blown head gaskets and finally total failure of the diesel engine, I am now a happy Lexus (=Toyota) owner, never looking back. All old good Subaru turbo engines are gone and the best you can get is 169 HP on Outback which is simply not enough for such a big car. It could be different in the US, but here in Europe there is no point of having one any more.
I was comparing cars such as Toyota, Honda Kia, & Nissan, in AWD system, price, options, Subaru came out on top. I'm now the proud owner of a 2024 Subaru Crosstrek Wilderness, and I'm loving it !!!!! 🏆🏆SUBARU🏆🏆 Best Bang for your Buck 🤑💰
For sure. The wilderness is beautiful. I agonized over that one also. I went with the regular crosstrek due to affordability.
Love your content! On my 2nd Outback XT… because I love them.
Here’s a note: Toyota owns about 20% of Subaru Corporation, which is the parent company of Subaru. Subaru holds a 0.3% stake in Toyota. In addition, Camrys have been built in Subaru plants since 2007, and the new Solterra in a Toyota factory.
Also, I recently investigated a crash involving a 2024 Camry where there was a reinforced rear passenger door similar to those of Subies.
I LOVE MY LOCAL SUBARU DEALERS!
Just to clarify, Camrys were built in Subaru's Indiana plant starting in 2007 but stopped in 2016.
My 24 crosstrek loves adventure! She's been beach camping, backpacking in the Sierras and skiing in Lake Tahoe!
OMG, thank you for pointing out the A pillar visibility! I almost ran over an older woman in a parking lot in my Toyota as I just didn't see her. Came within inches.
We have a 2020 Forester. She has got us through a lot of things like deer crossing on the Trans Canada (aka The 1) highway, and treacherous weather on BC's Coquihallla highway. Never a problem with slush in the Pacific Northwest. Also the perfect car for a family with two hockey and lacrosse players.
We love our Subaru ❤❤❤
Toyota rav 4; 2023, mine is averaging over 45 MPG and being hybrid it has excellent acceleration and comfortable as well, i was thinking about the subaru for the off road capabilities, but for driving on the paved roads the toyota with its better MPG and resale is hands down the winner. I'm 75 and have owned nearly 100 different vehicles and the toyota suv and tacoma are the best 2 vehicles i have ever owned.
I’ve owned a 2020 Taco and now Toyota/Lexus Hybrid SUV. Venza and Nx350h. Love the hybrids
I love my Subaru.
We had a 2012 Outback until last year when we got a new 2024 Outback. I can say that we liked the old one better. It got better gas mileage. We don't enjoy all the screen electronics ... we have to take our eyes off the road to find buttons. We probably won't keep this one as long as we did the old one.
Ditto. Upgraded from my trusty Forester to an Ascent last year. Purposely looked for a used 2022 to avoid the screen, lack of physical buttons and knobs and to get the extended thigh support. 2022 was also the last year for the dedicated second screen that shows the built in nav and car data (above the radio) and the CD player. I love those. No regrets.
i love my 2013 outback. Perfect amount of technology with nice buttons and knobs for volume and A/C.
This is EXACTLY how I feel about my 2024 outback. Everyone is jealous of me but it has so many features its overwhelming.
Bought our first OutBack LTD a 97, the 2nd OutBack LTD a 2002, the 3rd OutBack LTD a 2007, the 4th OutBack LTD a 2012, The 5th OutbBack Premier (CDN model) a 2017, and presently my wife has a 2019 Forester LTD and I have a 2022 OutBack LTD. We agree with your assessment that Subaru dealers are much easier to bargain with, and they take care of their customers without the "games" being played. As well, other than 2 minor recalls, and 3 minor warranty issues in total, none of these vehicles has required anything more than regular servicing. That said, our cars don't get to have more than 120 000 km ( 70 000 mi) or 5 years before we trade up, and they were all 1 year old when purchased. I'm already looking forward to my next OutBack in 2027.( Prior to my wife's Forester, she had 2 Toyota Cressida's and then 3 Lexus ES300/ES350's.) Like you said ... Subaru and Toyota are darn good vehicles.
I had a Toyota. Now I have a Subaru Forester 2025 Touring. Visibility over the hood was vital to my 5'2" wife. Once she sat in the Subaru and looked over the hood all the debates were over.
I also feel like Toyota is a city car. We live in the upper midwest and travel to family all year. Subaru feels like a better car on the Interstate. Some of our relatives live in rural areas. Subaru is much better on rural roads and long, hilly gravel driveways. We have not had snow or bad weather yet, but I think the AWD is going to help as well.
Same here. We chose a Forester over a Toyota Venza for my wife for the same visibility concerns. Subarus have more ride height, bigger tires, and of course the superior AWD. Just more capable vehicles overall. We've had 5 Subarus in a row for all of those reasons.
@@enoynaert you’re going to love the AWD system! It works excellent. And combined with X-mode it’s even better
Awesome testimonial! 👍
I sold Subarus back when the Crosstrek first came out. Luckily there was a side road where we could stop the car and change out to the customer. We stopped the cars with the passenger side on gravel and told the customers to floor it starting out ( I tested this start with some used non Subie AWD cars Subies were the only ones that took off without spinning.
I have a 2005 Subaru Outback XT Limited manual and a 2023 Toyota Tacoma TRD OR AccessCab. I got my truck because I need the open bed cargo. I bought my Outback from my friend and he lifted it 1-1.5”. I do like driving my Outback.
I also got my Tacoma so I can go Overlanding as TFL showed a letter received by a Crosstrek (I believe) owner stating that they could receive a $5,000 fine for driving in an off-road area from some BLM. I believe it’s because of AWD and the way it works versus 4x4.
@@enoynaert the world is a safer place .
I had a Camry and a Tacoma from 2003-2023 but switched to a 2023 Outback and am very happy. Absolutely agreed on driver seat visibility: far better in the Outback. Both the Camry and the Tacoma then at least had very dangerous A pillars, and I had a number of near collisions leaving stop signs with cars coming from the right because of it. This has not been a problem at all in the Outback. Agreed as well on safety and consumer-oriented Subie dealers.
A little over a year ago I sold my old Toyota Corolla and got a shiny and beautiful Subaru Forester and I love it! It is a nice and spacious vehicle, more fuel eficient than I initially thought and it drives smooth and stable. The whole experience at Subaru was and it has been fenomenal, I keep going to the dealer for regular maintenance and I am very pleased with the service. Love my Subaru Forester!
My family and I are loyal Subaru customers for life. Literally and figuratively. We bought one (1) Toyota product years ago and were treated like garbage by the dealer and had to tell a VP at corporate he, and Toyota Corp, "lost face" with me due to a repair issue. Our local Subaru dealer is honest, treats us like human beings and corporate customer service is the same. Also, my daughter and two grand kids were T boned by another car, and while her 2010 Forester was totaled, they all walked away from it. With six cars in, Subaru is the only brand we have, and will, consider.
Very curious to see your future video on why Subaru is going “full force” to EVs when they aren’t selling in almost every other manufacturer. Knowing we don’t have the infrastructure for it right now… I think they could focus on gas and hybrids but not full EV. Again that’s my opinion. The Prius and RAV4 / Highlander hybrids have soared in sales. They are so efficient and reliable. I work for Toyota and just bought a 25 Forester. I love my Subaru. It feels solid, safe, and less tinny than the RAV4. I will say….I’m not looking forward to the maintenance as it requires more since it has the two differentials but it’s worth it for the area I live in. I am not opposed to hybrid but it isn’t my first choice however I do back them more than EVs because they fit more people’s lifestyles like travelers and daily commuters.
Customer service for Subaru is far better than Toyota. Every Toyota dealer I have ever dealt with acts like it’s a “privilege” for you to do business with them. Subaru feels like home in nearly every dealer I’ve been to.
Overall, you're correct. Our local Toyota dealers were constantly trying to rebuild the car every time we brought it in for service, well above what the Toyota recommended factory service would state. And if you walked out of the waiting area while your car was being serviced, you had Jose & Chico constantly badgering you to trade your "old" (2 years old!) Toyota on a new one. Ran into that with two local Toyota dealers, and also ran into a vicious battle over a warranty service. And now I drive a Subaru - peaceful and reliable. No wonder Toyota has had a 19% interest in Subaru for 13 years!
Well your experience differs from mine.
See my comment.
Hmmmm.
I absolutely love my 2016 outback limited. It’s got 63k miles and I’m hoping it lasts me a lifetime lol the handling and ride make me so comfortable that I always want to drive.
Could not agree with you more. This year both my wife and I, looked very strongly at Toyota, comparing models to Subaru. We both went with Subaru, our #6 & #7 Subaru. My third Outback and my wife went with the 24 Solterra. Love them both.
Our Subaru dealer was great. Looking forward to the hybrid Outback.
I liked my leased 2020 Outback Limited that I bought it when my lease was over. Have been Subaru owners for years, my wife last August ordered a 2024 Legacy Touring XT. It is the 8th Subaru vehicle we have either leased or owned, and have not experienced any major problems. If we needed anything (tires, wiper blades, low tire pressure), our local Subaru dealer took care of them immediately, even if we didn’t have an appointment! I have had no problems in updating either the the console software or installing the map updates (either over the air or using a memory stick). Will be Subaru owners for the rest of our lives.
Ssssshhhh! Don't say stuff like that! It really upsets the Subaru-hating trolls out here!
Alex, you should have someone help you shoot these videos so you don't have to shoot this as a "selfie". Your videos are still pretty good. In my limited experience shopping for a Rav 4 and Forester in 2022 and 2023, the Subaru dealership experience has been far more pleasant. Your observations about the two brands' dealers seem to be accurate (again in my limited experience). I live most of the year in southern Vietnam and bought a 2023 Forester here. It was made in Thailand. So far I am very much pleased with this car. We also plan to purchase a Forester in the US within the next year.
I could not agree more about the relationship with Subaru dealerships and their customers. The last two vehicles I've purchased have been Subarus and I have owned five Toyotas. Buying a Toyota is a hassle. Plain and simple. And now, legitimately no haggling with them. One of the reasons I left Toyota was because of their increasing prices. When I was looking to buy a vehicle back In 2022, I did go back and look at some Toyotas. What I found was that firstly, they are seriously aggressive. I know that you're trying to sell a vehicle, but I don't need that kind of aggression in my life. Secondly, they flat out tell you that when you look at the MSRP there is an automatic $5,000 markup. Plain and simple, full stop. Last month I bought my second Subaru and part of the reason was because I had such a wonderful experience with the dealership I purchased my first one from. This was no different, no markup. Zero markup. I got it for MSRP and because I was a repeat customer, I got quite a few extras that normally don't come on the Outback premium trim, and no markup. They're practically giving these cars away, and there's no stress and no pressure. When I bought my first one, I was only there to look and the sales person was so sweet and so kind, and she didn't even take my phone number. She gave me her card and said let me know if and when you're ready to buy and that was it. No texting me, no calling me, no putting any pressure whatsoever. To put this into perspective, I also did look at Nissan at a dealership where I had formerly been a customer and they texted and called and emailed so much that I finally had to tell the salesperson that I felt that this was harassment at this point, and if I were considering buying from that dealership again, those days were done. Purchasing your vehicle should be just as fun as driving your vehicle, and Subaru dealerships are outstanding. Absolutely outstanding. When I bought my 2025 Outback last month, all of their systems were down. They couldn't do credit checks, they couldn't do appraisals, nothing. But they had already offered me a deal and said even if when our systems come up, it doesn't matter what it says. This is what we promised you and this is what we're going to do and if it doesn't work, we'll make it work. They did that and more, due to my work schedule I wasn't able to get back to the dealership for a week, so they delivered my car and brought the paperwork to my house. I don't know if other dealerships operate like that but I'm not going to find out because I seriously doubt I will ever buy another vehicle other than a Subaru.
5 Subaru's cars at last 20 years and now.
Really engineering wonder, AWD, opposite motor.
Crosstrek really the best city crossover and nature adventure for weekend. Thanks for video.
My car buying experience was far more superior than any experience I’ve had with any other car company that I was considering to buy from- The vehicle sold itself but the sales, manager, finance were absolutely wonderful to work with- I’ve been buying cars for 30+ years and Subaru wasn’t on my radar because I’m not an outdoorsy off road driver- I was all prepared to buy a Honda ( after also considering Toyota) but found those experiences to be flat- My nephew has a Subaru and told me to give it a try- Test drove a Limited Forester and was sold- Safety being my top priority…then all the other desirables- Best experience ever! Subaru isn’t just for outdoorsy people😁
I initially planned to buy a used Rav4 4mo. ago for my 18yrs old son, but ended up bought a used 2020 Forester touring. Toyota is too expensive, even the used ones. Well, what I discovered after drive this Forester for a few days and compare it to my wife 2017 Highlander Platinum in terms of safety.... My wife and I agreed that Subaru Eyesight system is better than Toyota safety senses. It picks up more accurate and more sensitive than Toyota. I don't know how to explain but you have to drive one to see the difference.
My Honda just involved in totalled lost recently and I decided to buy the 2024 Outback touring after doing some research. I still love Toyota and Honda but what I'm thinking is, buying Subaru is smarter.
I love my current 2018 and 2015 Legacy and loved my first Subaru, a 1988 GL. My concern is that I like driving a sedan and there is no sedan in the future lineup leaving me with few choices. The Camry is one of the few available options. I hope sedans make a comeback. (I also love a manual transmission)
I just bought the 2025 legacy. Had a 2012 legacy and needed a new car, shopped around for other sedans but i just ended up getting another Legacy, the last model before its discontinued. There was not enough about the accord or camry that made me pull the trigger. Even looked at acura and lexus, but didnt feel they were worth 60-70k. 2025 Legacy is so nice!
I have owned three Toyotas and five Subaru’s. Both have been terrific but I prefer the Subaru, no contest.
This is my 2nd Subaru, a 2021 Outback Limited. I love my car. I live in NYC, the roads are terrible here, the drivers are worse. I feel safe in my Outback and roll over raggedy roads with ease!!
Good review. I have owned both Toyota and Subaru, I’ll stick with Subaru. I do enjoy watching other videos that highlight the longevity and the mileage that is also well past 300,000 miles for Subaru‘s. Where as Toyota fanboys only think that Toyotas can go that high in mileage, sorry to burst that bubble.
I purchased a new 2019 Subaru Ascent. What made my decision was the fit and finish of the vehicle. No squeaks or movement when touching the interior finishes. I much prefer a cloth seat and the design was outstanding and comfortable. It had tremendous pick up when needed and I also had the panoramic roof. Yet 5 years later, I felt priced out of the market and opted for a newly designed Hyunda Santa Fe.
very good Alex, that was very informative👍👍
If Subaru had a hybrid system as good as Toyota I’d be Suabru for life ( I own a 23 wilderness ) though, I love the hybrid rav 4
Subaru is working on a hybrid next for the Forester! My guess is that they will be creating this off the back of Toyota since they have done so well with the RAV4.
Toyota owns 20% of Subaru, and among many other things, they're rumored to be working hybrids together. Hopefully that's true, and that something great will come of it.
@@ropersix that would be amazing! I love my Suabru but I just would love to have a hybrid platform to get 35 +
The AWD is amazing, purely amazing in inclement weather and it’s why I got Suabru.
In a similar vein the Mazda CX-50 hybrid is due out by the end of the year and will also be based on the RAV4. As long as that power train proves to be reliable it will be a great platform to find cheaper parts and repairs for years to come.
I bought a ‘24 CTW a week ago and that thing is so much fun to drive. Rides so smoothly and is as cute and sporty as anything out there. My BF is so impressed with it and its safety features he is seriously considering getting the OBW soon as he needs more cargo room!
My only real issue with my 2024 Subaru is I wish the rear hatch/cargo was bigger. But I’m working with it. (Crosstrek. Threw some things out, etc.)
On our 2017 Forester the oil consumption was crazy. Subaru eventually changed the engine block after much foot dragging. The blind spot warning system rusted out (we decided not to cough up the CAD $2000to replace). The engine warning light comes on for no real reason from time to time. The list goes on. It’s my wife’s car and she still loves it and the visibility is great as is the all wheel drive.
I am a first time Subaru owner and absolutely love my 2025 Forrester. My comment is specifically geared toward salesmen. Had I not watched your TH-cam video the day I purchased my vehicle things might have gone terribly wrong the first time I went to a car wash. My salesman never told me about turning off the pre collision tab and AVH prior to going through a car wash. I would recommend all salesmen tell new Subaru owners about this. Thank you for all of your very informative videos.
Glad you had a good experience! You shouldn't have to turn the pre collision braking off now in the newer subarus, but AVH is always a good one to turn off when going through the car wash!
@@alexpmoHi Alex, thanks for the videos - helped me select a 24 Forester. Do you think you could do a video about being a Subaru car sales professional- sort of a virtual job shadow? I have seen some openings and it would really help me decide if it is something I should pursue.
Boy, that happened to me at a car wash, too. Now I know to turn off AVH between sitting in line at the car wash and going through the car wash.
@@bethwarrick1222why not just wash he car yourself?I am 76 years old some medical problems,let I get my butt,out there nd wash,and yes hand way the Subaru with old time paste wax!The excercise will do you wonders!If you don’t use it you will loose it!Since 2006,have had 4 Outback’s,great cars,my 2024 Forest green metallic,premium is WOW!Stated driving in 1963,at 15 years old!Ifyou would of told me that when I was 76 years old,I would be driving a 4 cylinder,Japanese car,I would of told you you were Nuts!Thomas A.Filipiak Palos Hills Illinois!The Auto Barn Subaru dealer in Country side Illinois,is a top notch dealership!!!
I’ve never had a problem because all car washes that I know of require that you put the vehicle in neutral.
Just the all wheel drive on its own is reason enough to buy one our crosstrek performed in the snow outstanding it would not get stuck suburu is family now .
A recent Consumer Reports video featured two reviewers who nitpicked the '25 Forester. Then, one of them mentioned how they took it out in the country with their bike and the other mentioned how they went camping with it. The tone completely changed. Subaru = Adventure = Fun, more so than other SUVs.
I had a 2003 VW diesel Jetta Wagon. I drove it for 17 years until the body rot got beyond control. There was only 150k on the engine. I loved the fuel mileage (normally in the mid-40s in-town) and the practicality of the wagon body. Then diesel prices went through the roof and the car, with its low ground clearance and manual transmission, was beating up my aging body, especially on long drives. I started considering a new car. I began doing research, and narrowed it down to a few makes and models. Being very impressed with my daughter's 2017 Outback (They are a Subie family - daughter's Outback, son-in-laws Legacy, and granddaughters Crosstrek) I settled on a new 2020 Outback. I've been very pleased so far. There are a few quirks, things I've had to adapt for, but no major problems. It's very comfortable, and does very well in Michigan winters. Even after the dealership changed hands, the service department has been solid, and seems very conscientious when it comes to my car's maintenance. They advise, but don't push, services that could extend the life and functionality of the car. I appreciate that. I think Subaru, as a brand, deserves the loyalty of their customers.
After saving for a year I finally bought my 2024 Crosstrek. I love my car!
To be honest i have to agree with you 100% i also think subaru is like the best car out there to buy!✨
Great review. 1. Subaru is cheaper than Toyota, entry level sticker price for new Crosstrek is 26K. That’s why I got the Crosstrek.
It’s well known that Subarus have the best visibility especially the Forester and the Outback. CR consistently rates them as the best in that department.. Our family has owned 7 Subarus since 1996. Our 1996 Outback and 2001 Forester had head gadget issues. I wish my current 2022 Outback Onyx 2.5 had Toyotas hybrid system and a surround view camera, otherwise it’s perfect. I get over 30 mpg on road trips even with my Inno roof box on the car. Here in the Pacnw at sea level the 2.5 if fine. If I lived in Colorado I’d consider getting the turbo.
I drove a 2021 Subaru Outback and loved it. It was reliable and comfortable to drive. Its ability to 'goat' up a muddy road was impressive. Yet I bought a 2023 Toyota Tacoma because I needed a truck. If Subaru built a competitive truck to Toyota ... they might open up a new market.
Subaru building trucks called Baja, the new models are fricken awesome! Check on internet, they look outstanding!
I live in the Pacific NW: mountain snow driving. Lots of people have them. I’ve had two, my aunt has one, my mom and the list goes on. IMO the Boxer engine sucks. Old design and Subaru just tweaks systems that attach to them. When it leaks, often, you smell oil burning big time until you get it fixed. Fume poisoning. Sick of it. My mom and my best buddy had massive oil leaks and engines replaced. Subaru denying the problems for 10 years. They offer No Hybrid at the current time. Toyota is light years ahead on this. Head gasket problems are real. CVT transmission issues common. Maybe they fixed some of these issues but my friends and family have suffered over and over. Yes they drive nice and initial quality is good and all wheel drive is good but at medium age Subarus turn junk compared to most Toyotas. I’ve seen way too much to ever buy another Subaru. Sorry Subaru sports fans.
I’m now driving my second Outback and always speak highly of Subaru when people ask me about my car. The best car purchasing experience I’ve ever had was when I bought my 2023 Outback Wilderness edition. The dealership and the salesperson were fantastic. Oh, and Alex, I bought it from the dealership you work for!
If Subaru would go back to real transmissions and drop the CVT they might just be perfect.
My best friend has an Acura and has driven my Subaru Outback many times and always comments on how much smoother the drive is and how the visibility is so much better! I never realized it was because of the mirror placement!
I came from an '21 RDX to '24 Outback, and I can't agree more. I thought the RDX was comfortable and ride was good, but Outback really surprises me that it is actually feels better, may be not by a lot but certainly better!
When I was shopping for a small SUV a few months ago, I narrowed it down to the Mazda CX30, Honda HR-V, Toyota Corolla Cross or Camry or the 2024 Crosstrek Sport or Base if I decided on the 2.0 boxer.
I test drove them all, sometimes twice. I ended up with the 2024 Crosstrek Sport. The Sport had a 2.5ltr engine and was quieter and could climb local hills without sounding like the engine would jump through the hood LOL. (my 2024 Crosstrek Sport is getting about 38mpg on the Las Vegas beltway too)
The Honda HR-V had low engine noise, but was gutless on hills and much worse highway road noise, from the tires and suspension.
The Toyotas were finally ruled out, because Toyota dealers are downright predatory in the Las Vegas, Nv area... They tried to sell me used Rav 4s and used Corollas for the same or higher price than the New 2024 Crosstrek Sport I bought. The sales people at Toyota were some of the worst I've ever dealt with, not afraid to lie to your face at all.... This is a surprise, because the same dealer group in our area, owns the Subaru, Toyota, Honda and Mazda dealers... but the sales people at Toyota were awful.
Mazda got ruled out do to horrible seats and the weird infotainment controls.
As a side note, the Crosstreks feel like a much bigger car in the suspension, but handled corners fine, which is nice on our deteriorating roads.
The Mazda and Honda were close in the sporty handling but harsh on bumps.
I never test drove the Toyotas, because the sales people were so predatory... Never going back to them ever again.
As a parting comment, I also checkd out the small Hyundai SUV, the Kona. It has horrible seats and I got lucky by the time of day. The all glass instruments and display vanished in late afternoon sunlight, hitting the dash at the right angle... even at full brighness. It was a 2024 Kona, and it had just been put on the lot that morning, and even the salesman was shocked and apologized. He hadn't seen a new Kona yet, and couldn't believe under certain lighting, every single dash display was unreadable.
Purchased a new Outback Limited last year (2023) and couldn't be happier with the car itself. My gripe with Subaru is what they charge for service!!! First grease job, oil change and tire rotation was $110.00. Five months later add in an air filter and it was $167.00. That's crazy! Local independent shops in my area are $70-$75. As soon as my 3-year warrantee is over, I'll probably never set foot in a Subaru dealership again. Price gouging at its finest!
I have had 3 Outbacks and now a Crosstrek. Just love this car and the others as well but the changes they have made over the years are great. Got a great price on Carvana for my 15 OB so decided to sell and get a brand new Crosstrek. VERY happy!
I recently bought a 2024 toyota rav4. I would have gotten a cheaper subaru, but subaru doesn't have hybrids and i wanted a hybrid :(
First I really enjoy your TH-cam videos. The info is easy to understand and a lot to think about. A friend is now bringing request to sell her Subaru to the dealership. I went with her and I can say the hard sell was extremely visible. The more we hedged the dealer numbers were flying at us and we very fast lost interest and left the dealer. Did not expect three sales men trying
to buy my friends car. As per this video no Toyota for me. Not even entertaining a future purchase.
The blind spot is the area between the rear and side mirrors. The yellow blind spot lights mostly take care of this.
I have to disagree with the mirror placements on Subaru. The mirrors are too far back in my opinion and takes your eyes away from the road while looking at your right side mirror in particular. Visibility is still good, but the mirror thing still bugs me.
I just bought a Crosstrek Wilderness and I am super happy with the buying experience. Much much better than Toyota. I love the way Subarus drive. They feel really solid and planted. The Boxer engine is so smooth. I really like the use of parts across their model range which is clearly allowing them to focus on making their products better. Subaru AWD is superior to any other at the same price point. We traded in a Toyota Prius for our Crosstrek so in comparison, it feels like a tank. I have no complaints about the power as some have complained about. It has plenty of power and I like that Subaru still offers vehicles with naturally aspirated engines. I highly recommend Subaru vehicles.
Hi Alex,
Just out of curiosity, what would you say is the average lifespan of Subaru 2,4 liter turbo without major repairs ? Thanks in advance,
Brian
They’re as durable and long lasting as anything else out there as long as you perform regularly scheduled maintenance. Change the oil every 6k miles, tranny fluid every 40k. Have the plugs and internal components checked and/or replaced as needed.
My problem width Subaru or Toyota brands is why are they such ugly cars, they reliable, good engineered vehicles but ruined by the aesthetics of how they look all the angular body work. Maybe someone likes the look, although I think most owners, don’t consider how they look is an important criteria. Just my opinion. If they only improved how they looked I buy one, the interiors are ok.
I'm currently in the market for a new vehicle and have been weighing Jeep, Honda, and Subaru.
I'm sold.
Just Empty Every Pocket, JEEP!
@@alinatamashevich3354 Yeah, I know, much of the problem. I don't think I could afford to maintain the 4xe. I'd rather stick with a conventional low-performer.
I have owned 4 subarus, including my current '23 Forester, so I admit to stopping by just for a hit of confirmation bias. 😊
I just love Subaru so so so much😊❤ My all time favorite car ever!
I love Subarus but have to admit having a Hybrid is definitely a checkmark for Toyota. Hopefully Subaru will begin producing one soon..
When the Subaru on adaptive cruise control brakes for a car in front of it do the brake lights go on to warn a following car?
Yes, the brake lights will light up when adaptive cruise is braking
Thank you for explaining the "Boxer" engine and the advantages !
🙂
I wondered but was afraid to ask . Thank you!!
I got my Solterra from my dealership. Four digits under MSRP & 0.0% APR. Couldn't be happier.
I like Toyota cars but not their dealers. Late last year I was shopping for a Fact at my local Toyota dealer. The salesman kept telling me the Brave is short in supply both hybrid and gas versions. He then tried very hard to talk me to buy the EV hard which a lot of people hated. When I turned him down firmly but politely, he indicated that if I would take a lease deal then I may get a Fact sooner(in a few weeks). I walked away since I don't like paying thousands of dollars more than necessary just to get the car faster. I ended up buying a Mazda CX5. I'm happy I did. It serves me well. I would like it more if it is a hybrid but CX5 has no hybrid ver yet. I hope something can be done to stop these sales tactics that's both annoying and almost dishonest!
I don't look over my shoulder , I use spherical mirrors on the side mirrors. Ever drive a van without back and side windows ?
I thought this was just going to be a sales thing but these are some very valid points most of which I agree with
I've owned both Toyota and Subaru. Subaru's experience is second to none compared to that of others, including Toyota. My Toyota Camry was totaled in 2020, and after researching cars on Consumer Reports, I landed between Subaru, Toyota, and Honda. I test-drove vehicles from all three dealers and was floored by Subaru's customer service and sales experience. No mark-ups above MSRP, honest conversations, and I walked away feeling great with the experience. I paid more for my 2020 Forester Touring than if I went with the others, but the experience was incredible. I just bought my second Subaru, a 2024 Outback, and I love it! I live and die by Consumer Reports recommendations. And my two cars have been incredible to drive--why did I wait so long?
When I bought my Subaru, I compared pricing (used) at three different Subaru dealerships in my area. Two of them had the same pricing for comparable year and model. The third one had noticeably higher prices across the board, and also added $1,000 to the price if you chose to purchase all cash instead of financing.
Even my 2005 Subaru Outback has those hook slots on the rear doors!!! I love my car soo much that when my head gaskets went out last spring I spent the 4 thousand to get it done and never looked back.
Would never spend this much on a Ford or Chev, but my Subi is my guardian and partner!
I've had both Subaru's and Toyota's in the past and I wouldn't hesitate to buy either one of them again.
I'd say Subaru is more pleasant to drive but Toyota probably beats them in reliability.
Very pleased with my third Subaru - and part of the reason is the service received from sales and service teams at my local dealers.
Cool information… cool video
I’m on my third ,3 year lease with Crosstrexs .Best ! Vehicles I’ve owned, they’re affordable, Practical,handle very well and good on gas. Never got stuck in ice or snow lol . Subarus were the best keep secret, now everyone has one 😂
I have a Crosstrek, great vehicle, only a minor problem with the radii. Dealer.service is far from what I am used to in Lexus..
That forester visibility is crazy- I actually hated the fishbowl effect. I bought an OBW…I love it….thanks for these videos Alex! 🥰⛺️🥾🥾🐾🐾
The major issue with Subaru is the Sun kills you from the Front View Mirror
When I bought my first Subaru, a 2016 2.5i Legacy Premium, I was looking for a mid size sedan with AWD. There were few other options and they were significantly higher trim level and price and not available with Toyota. While optional at the time, I was able to get Eyesight and Blind Spot Monitoring / Cross Traffic alert which I wanted with the thought I'd have new drivers in a few years. I was able to buy it under invoice with 36 month 0% interest rate financing. My daughter now has it at college. 11 Months ago I bought a '23 Ascent Limited with Tech Package which I was able to get equipped like I wanted for a great deal near the invoice price. The problem with the Toyota Highlander was there was very limited supply, and they had all these distributor options I didn't want, things like Running Boards and integrated dash cameras, which added thousands to the price. In both cases at 2 different Subaru dealers in 2 different states I was able to get great deals and find Subaru offers good value for the money.
Something for your Boxer engine. Many aircraft have the same horizontally opposed designed.
Also BMW motorcycles.
Had a rental '24 Subaru Outback for a couple of weeks. Some criticisms. The unboosted version is ponderously slow. It struggled on Boston freeway on ramps. I gritted my teeth getting up to speed in heavy traffic. 2nd criticism is the Outback is top-heavy and unstable on offramps, I suspect this car will flip easily in a panic situation. It wallows like a garbage scow. You've got to keep the speed down on tight curves and offramps. 3rd thing to be aware of....If you are not a tech nerd you will hate the dash display and infotainment system. If you are techie, you'll love it. Very busy with lots of things going on and settings to use. I loved it but if you don't engage in tech, 90% of the features will not be used, or even discovered. Many common settings were hard to find.
Otherwise , the Outback was plush, nice seats, smooth transmission, easy to get in and out of, supple ride, quiet and easy to park.
Although recent Subaru vehicles have improved mileage, they can use more efficiency and more power. Adopting Toyota's hybrid designs would be a great move.
Hy. I know i can start my AC from distance with the controle key but can it be set for the heater too? Thanks