Tenet || What went down? || Opera Siege
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- Here is my take on trying to explain what the heck is going on in the opening scenes of Tenet.
Reddit was a great resource for discussion and there were a lot of great insights.
My approach was to try to keep things as simple as possible without having to bootstrap the entire thing.
The terrorist attack was real.
The CIA exchange was real.
Sator used his knowledge to set up a heist to lift the algorithm from the CIA.
Having observed The Protagonist's willingness to sacrifice himself, Tenet( or Future Protagonist) ensures his pill is fake so he can be recruited and continue the chain of events
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Finally, I have discovered Nolan's secret TH-cam channel.
Lol
Tenet is just amazing. I recently had someone tell me this movie was "garbage" when brought up in conversation, which was pretty sad. This movie does an amazing job of showing how insanely complicated geo-politics can get, and the fact that the film is so complicated just to save the world from being destroyed without anyone even knowing what happened, it reinforces that idea of things going on in the shadows. "It's the bomb no one even knew existed". Honestly the Tenet organization could be %100 real and no one would even know.
That is literally my favourite part about Tenet, the thought of those things were constantly being saved from and protected from the knowledge of its very existence
MIND BLOWN. I thought this video would break down the journeys people and objects made with regard to inverted entropy but this is a whole other layer of complexity that I just entirely overlooked. Welby Coffeespill coming in clutch.
when people were asking about a vid on the opera, I was like,..what? There's like only one inverted gun in the scene. But man,...the headscrather isn't the inversion stuff. It's the story! Or lack thereof of any explanation. So I thought I'd give my take on it. It's so open ended.
i hate how people use beat as an art/literature/cinema/music catch all term because they're too lazy to be specific. a beat is not a good word, be more descriptive. end of story.
great analysis. the most realistic and plausible part is ukraine bombing their own civilians. the don bas will not forget or forgive!
@@cagneybillingsley2165 They didn't bomb their own citizens, they were Russian invaders.
Love how you broke this down but also openly admit that the whole sequence isn't meant to be completely clear and really just serves as a dope ass introduction for the movie (at least imo 😅)
I agree. There are enough familiar anchor points that we, as an audience, "get" to hold us through. As soon as the Protagonist takes off running and the beat drops it is On!
But,..it's fun to think about the backstory and such. This is by no means meant to be definite,...just trying to speculate.
cheers!
I literally just watched every single Tenet video on this channel not even 24 hours ago. And this madman uploaded another. It's like he knows that I'm going to watch everything. Props to you mate
He knows that you’re going to watch everything because he’s from the future, sent by Tenet for us to understand their actions.
tenet actually exist and my existence will perish in under a minute
Hello Christopher Nolan. Thank you for explaining this.
When the Protagonist gets tortured on the train tracks, theres something odd about the trains in the background. In some scenes one train is moving forward and the other backwards. But in some shots we can only see one train. I believe this was intentional..
i like how there are still videos being made on the complex inversion mechanics of the film i think it just goes to show how complicated some of the scenes were.
Another *fantastic* video. There’s so much going on at the opera house that even after multiple watches I couldn’t process enough to come up with a valid theory.
_You_ my friend are a Tenet scholar!
Thanks! I can't process it on my own , which is why I made these videos also for my own clarification! ;p
Whoa, this the first serious and convincing attempt I've seen so far that really tries to explain the events of the opera siege. I need a while to digest this. Still so many questions!
ANOTHER excellent video, Welby, thank you! The opera scene always was a head scratcher and we may never know what was Nolan's intentions in those chaotic and confusing opening minutes of this masterpiece. Major props for you again my man!
That's why i love Nolan, he's really awesome when we're coming to the intelligence, complicated and very high detail part's...
I have only one youtube channel to recommend to those who have hard time understanding Tenet. Welby Coffeespill. That's all we need.
This scene in particular was the one really boggled my mind. Your theory does explain it quite successfully. What an achievement. Thank you, Welby. If you can, would you please make another video about one of the turnstiles portrayed in the film, but still not much people focus on, the one in the icebreaker? Despite of being one of the turnstiles used by the protagonists, I feel like it's poorly overlooked when analyzing the character's world lines between Trondheim and Siberia/ Vietnam. I would really love to see that but of course, it is your right to decide whether you make a video or not. Always love your works. Thank you.
This is amazing. I think I need to watch this video several times to actually understand it (just like the actual film)
I didn't know Christopher Nolan has a secret TH-cam channel 🤯🤯🤯
Yeah I'm gonna need to rewatch this video a couple more times
Good day! Thanks for all the Tenet visualization content, it's really awesome and well made. I think I watched this movie about 50 times by now, it's some of my favorite content to watch in the background while doing other things. Your videos are just as fun to watch. Thanks :)
thanks! I still got more cooking! One of these days,... :)
If this channel didn't exist TENET's full unpuzzling could literally have been lost to History.
Bro i actually think you're better than other channels on Tenet, others create theories which have no logic or in-lore reference - like that Neil is Max theory - but you explain things a lot better, things that make sense, keep it up bro 👍
This was excellent. Thank you for clearing up a few things.
As said by neil the whole operation was a temporal pincer, so actually they were closing the loop in the past (effect) so that it could create the protagonist (cause) who will eventually form TENET....or u can simply go the other way round, it doesnt matter its a temporal pincer...a loop now complete.
And this is just ONE interpretation. How amazing is that? We don't even know if it's fully what happened. It's so good because you get to relive the movie trying to find the answers. You are actively making the audience engage.
Imma be honest. I had no clue at all what was going on in the beginning. I saw guns exchanged and a Protagonist snatched. That's the start of the movie for me lol. I possibly missed all this covered ground none the wiser.
I love this movie.
fantastic, omg this opens up a new world, dragging Ukrain and Russian tension into the story, never thought about that possibility. this makes me wanne look for other side conflicts hidden in the backround. this just gave the movie a whole new level of world building if that is the right word idk. so much more going on under the hood. damm i wish i saw this earlier
5 months later and the madlad have uploaded again! We miss ya
"Trying to keep things simple and in order"
Yeah, but i can't even understand the movie itself.
I may be wrong. But it's a forward Neil saving Protagonist at the Opera who used inverted bullet to save Protagonist. Two birds in one stone: saving and giving hints. TP went to a lecture about inverted bullets before meeting Neil.
yes, Neil was not inverted in the opera house, just his weapon, just like how TP used the inverted weapon in the lab test.
@@WelbyCoffeeSpill but remember at the end when someone(i don't remember the name) said that anyone who saw the algorithms shall die, so when does the protagonist actually dead? it is possible that the pill he is consumed is the real one?
@@muhammadridho7680 no. It is not possible since he didn't die. That happened weeks ago from his perspective.
Anyway, they changed their plan. Split up the pieces and go into hiding.
@@WelbyCoffeeSpill could you elaborate more about the change in plan?
@@muhammadridho7680 Ives originally said no one leaves that mountain alive.
But once up there, he changes his mind. He splits up the pieces and each man can on on their own to hide it and die whenever they feel is right.
There is no point in getting the algorithm, and then killing yourself, leaving the algorithm in the same mountain they tried to steal it from.
Should Welby be interested in making even more Tenet content, alternative possible explanations of the opera siege plot would be a must watch for most Tenet fans.
You're back... Amazing video as always. I had lost hopes that any more videos are gonna show up... :D Do you have any more videos planned or it's finally over?
I actually was planning a different video, one that digs into the car chase and if the cars were inverted or not. But then switched gears to this Opera one. So I may go back to that if I can come up with something worthwhile. Thanks!
@@WelbyCoffeeSpill Yes please do make the video on Car Chase whether the cars were inverted or not. Because it always bothers me that when the Protagonist was inverted & he enters the BMW, the forward gear should drive the car backwards & the reverse gear should actually move the car forward from the Protagonist's POV. But I don't think reverse gear will speed the car as much as the top gear. If you have an explanation, that would be great.
@@aniketkulkarni234 definitely good questions!
Good lord! Thanks for this. It really helps.
That was amazing Welby. Do you plan on doing any other scenes or interpretation videos?
thanks. I was working on deep diving into the car chase scene, like were the cars invertered or not,..etc.. Someone was mentioning a global timeline one too. There are ideas out there. If you have suggestions I'll take'em. cheers!
@@WelbyCoffeeSpill I'd be interested in a video that summarises/theorises Neil's entire known timeline. Just from his single perspective (e.g. he does A first then B then C), rather than any objective forward time perspective, if that makes sense. And yeah, like everyone else says, your video breakdowns do an excellent job of explaining the film.
@@bhavikmistry6243 if it isn't objective, then it is subjective. And yeah,..it would be Highly subjective and speculative, just like this Opera video.
That's asking for a lot of heat. hee hee.
But since you mention it, and someone else here mentioned Priya,...maybe that would be cool , a video going over all the character's story involvement.
Cheers
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What a work man another level of explanation this show your hard work well done bro
THANK YOU for this!
Just when I thought I got the general gist of what happens in the movie overall, I saw this video and...I don't even know what the movie is about anymore
Nolan is Welby. No other way man!
I love your obsession with these. Makes me feel that I'm not alone. Thanku
YOU’RE BACK WITH ANOTHER ONE!!!!
Good explanation, let me tell you my conclusion to help who didn’t understand.
What makes Tenet complicated is not only the too many parties involved, but rather that the entire film is like a loop of events all happening at the same time each with a new plan with the intention to change the past. That’s because inversion is unlike time travel, it’s more complicated.
At first there are two major forces who have access to this inversion machine (Entropy)
Two people (Sator and The Protagonist) with two different intentions are trying to change the past, so whenever one changes it in X direction the other takes it to Y direction.
We’re introduced to this concept of loops trying to change the events of the past many times in the movie.
So in order to understand the movie you have to re-imagine how it will look like if the past wasn’t manipulated by the future, and then slowly introduce the future manipulations one at a time,
And look at it from each one of the two major powers point of view.
So let’s imagine the opera siege without future manipulations from both parties perspectives.
(Protagonist’s POV)
CIA wants to buy the 241 from a Russian general, but they can’t do this in public, so they had to cover themselves with a siege, they hire some terrorists to attack the opera, disturbing everyone so that they can finish their operation, and they succeed. The 241 is now with the CIA (Which is the Protagonist’s side)
(Sator’s POV)
Sator knew about CIA’s plan from any source since he has a good relationship with the CIA, and since the 241 will end up in the CIA’s hands, he needs them to stay alive and on his side. So, he informed the Ukranians about the operation. While telling the CIA at the same time that the Ukranians knew about the transaction and that they have to rescue their CIA agent.
The Ukranians send SWATs to kill both the terrorists and the Russians, while the CIA sends a small team to rescue their agent.
But, unfortunately the Ukranians killed the CIA in the process. The 241 Ends up in the Ukranians hands.
*DISCLAIMER*
Now both The Protagonist and Sator inverted themselves to change what happened in the past at the same exact time. that’s when things starts getting really complicated, each 2 layers that are happening at the same time will have the same number but different POVs.
(Layer 1, Protagonists POV)
The Protagonist being a CIA member went back in time to rescue his team from the Ukranians, So he hired some local Ukranians (who are Pro-Russians and wanted the operation to succeed, I would call them Semi-Ukranians) to help him out, they gave him the same uniform as the rest of the Ukranians.
The protagonist’s plan was to rescue the CIA member from the native Ukranians using the Semi-Ukranians as an asset, hoping that the 241 ends up in the Protagonist’s hands.
(Layer 1, Staor’s POV)
While Sator’s plan was to help the CIA out to succeed in the mission. (Sator wants to make sure that the CIA successfully escape the Ukranians) So sator sent a team of Russians who can speak Ukranian to help the Protagonist execute his plan and then they would take the 241 from him. Hoping that the 241 ends up in Sator’s hands.
However, because Layer 1 have two different objectives the conflict starts, and neither of them succeed, So two other powers tries to change the past again, we will call them the Second Sator and The Second Protagonist.
(Layer 2, Second Protagonist’s POV)
The Protagnist went back in time, to save himself and his team from what he thinks is (a Semi-Ukranians plan) this time changing the plan a bit, he thought since the Ukranians don’t really know how the well dressed man (the CIA agent) looked like, he would swap him out and send him through a different exit with the 241. And then he and the swaped agent would go to the Semi-Ukranians and kill them. Hoping that the 241 ends up in the Protagonist’s hands.
(Layer 2, Second Sator’s POV)
While at the same exact time, Sator tells those Semi-Ukranians he sent: how the well dressed man looks like, hoping that the Protagonist won’t win and that the 241 ends up in his hands.
So again Layer 2 have two parties in conflict with each other because both are trying to change the past at the same time.
Now we have 4 people in conflict.
If that’s not complicated enough, take this.
Two other Powers join the Conflict. The TENET team made by The Third Protagonist and The Third Sator both are in the far future.
(Layer 3, Third Protagonist’s POV)
Tenet in the far future knew about the conflict that will happen between the old Protagonists and the old Sators
So Neil rescues the old Protagonist inside the opera, and the other agent gives him a fake pill that’s not suicide pill so that he stays alive while everyone else think he’s dead. And steal the 241 from the Ukranians who took it in the original timeline.
(Layer 3, Third Sator’s POV)
Also knew about the conflict between the Old Protagonists and old Sators. So, he inverts himself Because at the same exact time he wants the Protagonist alive to steal the 241 from the Ukranians and then Sator take it from the Protagonist.
So, the film starts here. 6 Powers trying to change the past at the same time, each of them knowing what will happen before it happens.
If there was no invertion, the 241 would’ve ended up in the Ukranians hands and that would be it.
To be honest I still don’t really know how inversion works, and if the Ukranians really killed the CIA in the original timeline.
So I could be wrong, but anyway I can’t imagine how Nolan wrote that script.
There's no such thing as an original timeline, It's just one timeline
Sator is dead from the start of the film. He's not in the future..There is no old sator
@@muhammada.h5693 the beginning is the end, but he’s… still there right? No. He’s dead. So the movie is the past?
The best explanation out there
Wow this explanation was awesome! Cant wait to watch the video
This helped me understand the opera siege a bit more.. didnt even notice the Russians were involved. Also, hilarious graphics you used! Love the "Not Sator" van lol
Also: this is about as complex as the current war in Ukraine, pro-enemy agents on each side, puppet terrorist/mercenary groups, black flag ops, etc. Sad, scary stuff
it was pretty creepy how not long after this movie, the whole Ukr/Rus thing happened and is still happening.
I guess Nolan used the tensions over there as a backdrop not expecting it to actually explode any time soon.
@@WelbyCoffeeSpill I just watched this video again and couldn't help connecting the dots with the current narrative taking place in Europe. That conflict shows no signs of slowing down anytime soon.
One of my favorite channels. The quintessential one to go to for all matters Tenet. Do you have patreon or something?
Thanks for the kind words. No, I do not have a patreon, nor do I monetize vids.
I don't wanna be restricted with copywritten music demonetizing me. And I have a day job already, heh.
I do this for my own creative outlet and wish to share Tenet content and ideas in an entertaining way.
As inspiration hits me, I uses this to 'get it out' of my brain.
Cheers and thanks!
Incredibly good explanation
Very cool. This story is so deep. Thanks Welby!
It’s crazy to think that Sator literally manipulated everyone and every side of this incident
Such a great opening sequence for the movie. May even be better than The Dark Knight's opening bank robbery in terms of getting your blood pumping.
Fucking Brilliant. Best Tenet video by far. No need for a voiceover to talk talk talk. You have made the best PowerPoint explanation ever.
IIMHO, chances are at least some of the Ukranian team are Sators men, tasked with blowing up the building so that they can't track down the device assuming it was lost.
I wonder if the bomb usage was an elaborate assassination attempt on the protagonist, or to disrupt the CIA team and make it more likely they would be overwhelmed by splitting them up, only prevented by Neil's intervention? The real trouble is pinpointing when each party received the information of events occurring at the siege, not only the events precipitating it.
Wow. Tenet is easily the Nolan flick I understand least. This helped a lot
I think the Genius of nolan is to make itlook linear
Incredible.
For me, I watched Opera siege again and again to make sure that I understand who's with whom. But later I discovered, I was in love with the music of this particular scene. Search for 'RAINY NIGHT IN TALLINN'.
This was really well made. I subscribed.
I saw the pill as a dead man switch, informing the future so the death could be avoided.
Kudos to your commitment!
Thank you for the outstanding work of untangling the Tenet's plot. I believe the Opera Siege to be the most confusing or rather too quick passed piece of it.
Masterful directing. Film is surreal! Don't try to understand it, feel it...
the bombs were the most mysterious aspect to me.
this kind of makes sense
I never understood how protagonist friend kept his cia dead pills , sator’s goons new about protagonist pills after all
And sators goons told protagonist his friends supported torture only a few minuts … ( strange …he was still alive and conscious enough to save Protagonist )
His friend was actually wearing the other guy's suit that he swapped. So his pill may have not been in the collar like a Swat uniform. Maybe it was in his sleeve?
Also,..that dude got tortured and told the goon about the other team after only 18 minutes. Maybe the goon didn't bother searching for a pill since he talked anyway.
There Are actual theories about this whole Van and torture scene is not even Sator,..but part of the Tenet test. I think that is a bit much though, imho.
@@WelbyCoffeeSpill yeah, right…that makes sense
Thank you
@@WelbyCoffeeSpill oh yeah , a test , as the man in black says « you didn t give up your team mates »
Thank you again Welby
What timing to talk about Russia-Ukraine relations
Any chance pronounce can also be color coded? 😅
I wasn't planning that,..heh. What's happened Happened.
so what you're saying is...
*TEMPORAL PINCER MOVEMENT*
excellent video as always
but im kinda confused by the fact that how inverted people can still see things perfectly, as light will be inverted to them?
or maybe i missed out something in the film
It is never explained in the film. I don't think they want you to care about those details.
But if I had to try to explain it:
As a normal person, we see objects because photons bounce off and carry that information into our retinas. If you see an inverted person walking around, that is because photons are hitting that inverted person and bouncing to you. So photons Are hitting them in normal time.
For an inverted person, those photons that were hitting you in normal time are reversed, right.
So they would start off, from your perspective, inside you with that information.
Then pass through your retina, but going out.
Either way, that information is pinging your retina, so you perceive the image.
The photons/information is just backwards, hence why you'd observe the world around you backwards.
same thing for soundwaves. The wave is still vibrating your eardrum, but played backwards, which is why everything sounds backwards. to you.
@@WelbyCoffeeSpill Wow such a nice explaination.
i just watched this video before sleeping....
Great video ! The thing I don't understand is that Sator knew his plan would fail because he comes from the future where he knew he didn't get the piece of algorithm.. why bother doing it anyway ?
Thanks!
One of the reasons this sequence is so complicated is because Sator has already tried to influence it from the future.
One fundamental difference between Tenet, specifically Neil, is that for the most part he believes there is no changing the past. But even he is not 100% about that and is why he doesn't want to chance anything and goes into the tunnel to save Protagonist.
Sator, on the other hand, much like the future Bad guys, believe it is worth it to risk the past to save the future. So they try anyways.
In this case, Yes, Sator failed and nothing can change that as far as we know.
But Sator still can use that event to gain information that he can use in His future.
Like say, make sure he tells his goons to kidnap the Well-Dressed man and interrogate him.
Ultimately, Protagonist's deception by replacing him with another agent ruined that plan.
Awesome. Thank you so much
I think this is the most probable interpretation, but how sator know that a plutonium trade occured during the kiev terrorist attack ? When him and TP met them for the first time, sator already know that...
This event of course wasn't related in newspapers and sator is an informer of CIA I doubt he had spy in the CIA to tell him about the trade
it's a good question. Although Sator does have ties with CIA, I don't think he has a mole there, either.
It may be easier and more probable that he learned about it from the Russian side of the trade.
Some rogue Russian general formerly in charge of Soviet missile sites got hold of , what he thought, was cold-war plutonium and put the word out he was selling on the black market. Sator could have learned about it from the underground market by bribing people.
@@WelbyCoffeeSpill Or maybe Priya told him, through Sanjay Singhs company. She was actively trying to get him to bring all 9 together
@@BillyGorst totally plausible too. Sanjay sells ammo to Sator, it wouldn't take much to be like,.." oh,..by the way,.you may be interested to know so and so got hold of plutonium and is looking to sell to someone we suspect is CIA."
Thanks Nolan
If you're looking for another overly complex story to wrap your brain around, try The Sekimeiya: Spun Glass. Your visualizations could add a lot to it.
Have you thought of making 3D rendering analysis and similar theory videos on other Nolan (or otherwise) directors? Would love to see more speculative physics/logic videos! Subscribed and wish there was a Tenet sequel on the way
Tenet was the only movie in a long time that really blew my brain like this. And has so much open to explanation/interpretation.
Not sure off the top if my head what other time/physics movies could use it, but I am open to suggestions. Thanks.
i am learning english.
at 1:03
what's the david washinton's line?
well.. situ asked?
could somebody make me know the accurate utterance?
“Well, since you asked”
@@dallas_wilde thanks so much!!
I never thought i was see amogus on a tenet video 2:55
Can u do a video on the lead up to the final battle?
This never made sense to me: Neil fires an inverted round to save the protagonist but he himself does not behave like he is inverted. Is he walking backwards on purpose to blend in? Does he just have an inverted pistol to confuse the protagonist and later cause him to inquire about it? Seems like he would've met with the scientist lady anyway, so that doesn't seem necessary.
If you ask me, Nolan just didn't wanna go too heavy on the inversion that early in the film, and we're seeing an inverted neil walk backwards to blend in.
Neil wasn't inverted but his weapon was, I believe. The physics of his orange dangling thing seems normal. Just like how Protagonist was using an inverted weapon in the lab scene.
It didn't seem necessary, I agree. You mention it was done just to pique Protagonist's interest, which is a possibility. Or more so for us, the audience, to get a taste of the 'weird' world ahead.
Fantastically explained ✌🏻
I think about a question, since this channel meet peoples who understood the film the most in entire world, I'll ask you.
What happen if after "grabbing" an inverted object we try to throw it ?
Do it will act like the cars, by being normal when normal people act on it or inverted when invert people act on ?
Oppose resistance ?
If I throw sator's gold on a wall, from gold perspective, was it trew by the wall to my hand ?
Excuse my english I'm french ;)
In the film it is shown that normal people can apply a force to an inverted object.
Like when Protagonist kicks the inverted gun away in the hallway fight.
So yes, from the gun's perspective, it was pulled back to normal Protagonist's foot.
With inverted objects there seems to be two ways you can affect it.
By picking it up and throwing it.
Or by willfully 'intending' to to drop it, like the bullet scene.
But this cannot always work since you do not know the future. If nothing will interfere, then you should be able to unDrop things.
Great video.
You should make this channel into a Tenet explanation channel.
wow
Has una versión en español de estos videos, te verá mucha gente❤
Brilliant, tbh
Wow I didn't think opera had this much complexity and interlocking plots woven in. However I think there's also another interpretation of the purpose of the bombs. Ukrainians knew the transaction is taking place and so they decided to take advantage of the siege, interrupt the transaction and take the plutonium for themselves. This is the protagonist's theory who says "they're covering their tracks". The bombs aren't for dramatic effect, their purpose is to obfuscate what really happened and where the package really went. If the SWAT plan went according to plan nobody else would know what really happened or who owns the material and everyone except team orange would be the loser of this game.
But of course they could never suspect that future protagonist and Sator were wrestling for the package with their own pawns across space and time using their knowledge of the future.
The scene is so vague with several anchor points that we just don't know.
And the beauty is, we can fill it with anything as long as it agrees with those anchor points. Your idea seems to be just fine as well, providing the Ukrainians sacrificed the audience for Plutonium. The events will still play out logically. +1
@@WelbyCoffeeSpill Yep the main events just revolve around JDW going undercover to extract the agent and recover the plutonium. Literally anything could be happening between the terrorists and the SWAT using gas and planting bombs. Maybe they were planting bombs to cover for the fact that poison gas killed many audience members, and blame it on the terrorists (as JDW says: "covering their tracks"). Russian SWAT killed over 150 people with poison gas in the Moscow theatre siege in 2002. It's all going on in the background in this scene, JDW is the focus
Now the only question I have is regarding Priya, why was she important can anyone explain, please?
interesting. I haven't given her much thought. She seems like a sort of Producer within Tenet. Setting things up, getting assets to where they need to be,..etc. I guess she took her job too seriously though in the end ;p
In the film, Priya is the wife of Sanjay Singh, a powerful Indian arms dealer living in Mumbai. It can be assumed that Priya was recruited into TENET before she met Sanjay, and it was upon her recruitment that she was given the following intel:
1. TENET’s mission: allow Andrei Sator to assemble the Algorithm so TENET can then steal it and thus prevent the future-antagonists from acquiring it, for the future-antagonists are the ones who want to use the Algorithm to reverse the direction of time so they can destroy the past in hopes that it will save their present, which is in ruins.
2. Her involvement: she must sell Sator the ammunition that will be used in his operation.
It is the second piece of intel that, in theory, leads Priya to forming a relationship with Sanjay Singh. By marrying Sanjay, Priya gets access to his arms-dealing empire, thus giving her a “masculine front” for selling arms to Sator. Therefore, influenced by Priya, Sanjay sells the ammunition to Sator. Though, it seems certain that Sanjay is unaware of Priya’s involvement with TENET and thus her true motivations when it comes to their relationship.
Now, when The Protagonist and Neil infiltrate Sanjay’s penthouse, Priya initially does not know that they are involved in TENET’s operation. It isn’t until Priya hears TP talk to Sanjay that she tests him (the TENET hand gesture and code-word). TP does the hand-TENET gesture and code-word back, thus confirming his involvement. Knowing this, Priya then gives him the necessary information to send him on the right path to getting involved with Sator.
@@RShadow12 what about the ending scene? If she works for Tenet why was she acting evil? Thanks for the effort btw.
@@WelbyCoffeeSpill yeah, the end is what I want to know about. Why would she take stuff too seriously?
@@theprotagonist702 TENET operates under the notion of “ignorance is our ammunition.” Kat was not a member of TENET, but TP got her involved in the mission. Because she as a civilian knew too much about their operation, Priya deemed it necessary to eliminate her to protect their information and thus the safety of the world. As Priya states in the car, she is the one in charge of tying up loose ends. It isn’t until TP discovers his true role in TENET that he determines that HE is the one responsible for tying up loose ends, Priya included.
I really like your channel, and do like Tenet the film. However, I do think Nolan's insistence in only showing the specific mission in a larger world was a mistake, especially since there will likely never be a sequel or spin off. I think the film would have benefitted from a structure closer to Interstellar, Prestige, or Oppenheimer, showing more of the future events in parallel. It could have still been trippy, mind-bending, and 'confusing' (I don't find the movie particularily confusing as is), but showing the future would have made the stakes seem more 'real', at least in my opinion. The Algorithm remains a poor threat/MacGuffin, in my opinion, since unlike, say, the (admittedly fantastical) disappearing photograph in Back to the Future, the stakes of it never feel real or tangible.
Right at the beggining when the russian guy sasys "it's your time americans" and then it shows TP flipping a bullet out of his gun, right beside him it wasn't Neil?
no,..that was not Neil. Neil was also wearing different gear. And his backpack.
@@WelbyCoffeeSpill I could swear that guys face was Robert Pattinson's face, it really lookslike him lol I'm really bad at these lol
Nolan is a genius man. I have a feeling this might be strangely related to the Russian invasion in Ukraine. The next Nolan movie is supposed to be about the Nuke. Strange again..
No, it’s 100% based off the Moscow Theater Siege
How did you get that version of the song "windmills" with those vocals at the beginning? That was beautiful
Thanks! I used actual Ukrainian opera vocals, found on TH-cam, and mixed it myself.
@@WelbyCoffeeSpill amazing job. Now I know where ludwig got his tonal inspiration haha
It cant be coincidence
@@marvinzenit658 here is the opera source. th-cam.com/video/MwmXZh6XHp4/w-d-xo.html Cheers!
@@WelbyCoffeeSpill thank you! Cheers!
The Ukrainian police who go to the theater are not SWAT, they are KORD, which is like SWAT, but Ukrainian.
What tools are you using to creat these 3d animations and video edits? Are you a programmer
I use Maya and after effects mostly to make these. And photoshop. I am not a programmer really. But I do work in 3d animation professionally.
Always like your videos..I have a question, Which Sator we see after explosion/opera/vietnam. Sator is dead when in vietnam, happening at the same time with opera and explosions (Stalks 12)
Sator left Vietnam to go to do the opera siege, leaving his Boat empty. Then meet Protagonist for Dinner, do the Car chase,...
Then inverted back to Vietnam, back to his now Empty Boat, and got shot and died.
@@WelbyCoffeeSpill Thanks for the answer, now it's clear to me..Great movie, I realy enjoyed it. Memento Pro Max
@@WelbyCoffeeSpill By the way, is everyone who goes back in time always inverted? I saw many scenes where they went back in time and act normally..Like the red team, they went back to the past (battle of stalsk 12)
@@muhammada.h5693 when you are inverting and going back in time, you need to wear oxygen masks. But once you get to where you want to be, you un-invert, and then can act normally again.
Idk if you'll see this or not, but in your opinion, who is the guy who points his gun at The Protagonist and gets shot by Neil? That still doesn't make sense to me
I believe he is nobody. He is one of the swat teams that were planting the bombs. Most have cleared the building already but I guess he hung back to check things and saw Protagonist messing with their bombs.
@@WelbyCoffeeSpill but how would he know to speak English, and why does he tell TP that he doesn't "have to kill these people"
@@joeyk107 Ohh,..I see the confusion. The swat guy didn't say that. Protagonist did. I know the audio and masks make it difficult. But here is the official Script:
PROTAGONIST
Walk away - you don’t need to kill
these people.
@@WelbyCoffeeSpill ohhh I see. Can't believe I never realized that, and I've seen Tenet a ton of times lol
But the question remains.. did he meant shoulder or soldiers
please make a detailed video about the temporal pincer movement
which one, the end battle at Stalsk-12? Not a bad idea.
@@WelbyCoffeeSpill maybe all of them please 😅 , because even the whole operation is a temporal pincer , i know it's tons of work but take your time , and thank you for your efforts , without these videos i would've quit trying to understand it 🤣
@@WelbyCoffeeSpill it will be better if you can organize it the same way they did in the movie , they started with the small t.p.m in the car chase scene , after that they get bigger the t.p.m in syberia war , and they announce that the whole operation is a temporal pincer
@@YOUSSEFWorkout wow,..ok.,.that's a lot to cover,...lol. I will keep it in the queue! thanks.
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You lost me at Ukraine’s deciding to make a statement by sending a heavy response, but then making the attack seem “even deadlier to drum up support” … by using their OWN swat to gas and bomb their OWN citizens. On what planet does that happen? I thought this was based on something that really happened where they made an error and accidentally killed people? Just an honest question.
The opera siege in Tenet seems to be based on real life events.
Look up "Moscow theater hostage crisis" from 2002.
Separatists took over the theater and Russian forces pumped in gas, killing 170 hostages, their Own citizens.
Crazy.
@@WelbyCoffeeSpill don't mistake Ukrainians for russians. For Ukrainians it is not a plausible plan if it involves attacking its own civilians. For Russians, however, it is. Same story repeats itself - ryazan sugar, beslan, nord-ost, crocus city hall - same tactics everywhere. Stage terrorist attack, usually using islamists, and use it to grab more power.
also: why is inverted Neil goes down the stairs looking down?))) did Protagonist instruct him to run backwards to not confuse his younger self?))) but that doesn't make much sense, because he saw the inverted bullet
Neil is not inverted here. Just his weapon/bullet.
Much like how Protag is experimenting with the inverted bullet in the lab.
@@WelbyCoffeeSpill yes, tank you. I read comments and reddit, it makes sense now.
@@WelbyCoffeeSpill also, do you have any idea when and where did reverted Sator in Tallin revert back to normal to get back on the boat? How far back did he travel in the past and what turnstile did he use?
@@MrGregnsk54 the point in Tallinn when Sator inverted and kidnapped Kat in the SUV is the furthest in time he ever existed.
Once he inverted and "saw the handoff" of the algorithm, he could have remained inverted and traveled back about 2-3 weeks, all the way to the start of the movie.
At that point, he re-verted somewhere. It is never shown. Perhaps in Tallinn again, perhaps even in Oslo airport. But once he re-verted, he went to Vietnam to be on the boat while his original past self flew off to the Opera operation.
@@WelbyCoffeeSpill thank you! That's what I figured as well, since it happened off screen.
5:20 how is TP got compromized?? he just hold the bomb and then get spotted??
The swat guy told him to plant the bomb, and TP was confused and took too long.
The swat guy got suspicious and saw that his arm patch was loose , so he ripped it off.
@@WelbyCoffeeSpill Okay thanks, i never saw any fastest suspicious man before swat guy is pretty smart tbh.
Hi, i am brazilian. I have two question, i wanted you to explain to me. This film has as its principle the term, it happened happened.
This is bad and complicated. But I have two scenes in mind that fascinate me, where the future alters the past.
1 - The first scene and in the opera, Neil was induced by the future to save the protagonist.
2 - And the other scene is the end, the protagonist kills the prya, where the future also alters the past. The future can change the past, many say that the movie is unnecessary because nothing is changed. Can you clarify for me, if the future can change the past using the machine.
In this movie it is implied that you Cannot change the past. But that does not make it unnecessary.
Inverting does not let you Change the Past.
Inverting allows you to be part of the Past, but with extra knowledge. Or to be there to learn something to use in the Future.
1- Neil was sent back to the Opera to be apart of the event. There was never a timeline where he was not there.
2- There is no universe where Kat was killed by Priya. Kat left a message to say she felt scared. Protagonist went back and killed Priya before she could shoot Kat.
Sator did not know where Protagonist hid the algorithm in the car scene.
He inverted and went back. He did not change Anything. But , he discovered that Protagonist hid it inside the Saab car. And got it back After the events.
For some reason though. The future bad guys think they can do something to help them. They think they can change/destroy the past.
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Perhaps there are multiple timelines but it is never observed in the film. Neil states that there is no way to know,..but it is not an excuse to do nothing. and so Tenet believes they must stop them from even trying,
@@WelbyCoffeeSpill thanks.
Are you going to upload more Tenet videos?
Probably.
Don’t you think the Protagonist actually consumed a poison pill? Seems like they could have inverted him to reverse the effects. His teeth were fixed when he awoke. This could have been done while inverted.
Inversion doesn't work that way here. You cannot undo things that have already happened.
If Protagonist was dead or wounded, placing him inside a turnstile will just send him backwards through time as a dead or wounded body.
Any normal person observing him will see him unwound,..but only up until he reverse exits the turnstile he was inverted from and disappear.
@@WelbyCoffeeSpill Kat was near death after Sator shot her. She was inverted to undo the damage.
@@ZolliT She was near death, correct. She was shot. But inverting her doesn't undo the bullet wound.
What was 'killing' her was the inverted radiation from the bullet.
So by inverting her, she will match up and "cancel" out the radiation part so she can heal normally.
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