*Correction* - Newbury Park will be competing at New Balance Nationals, not Nike Indoor Nationals as we said in the video. Make sure to leave a comment on how fast you think they'll run as well.
Dear lord, imagine running a 14:44 and you're only fifth on your team! This is utter madness! I ran XC in HS in Michigan ('98-'01) when Dathan Ritzenhein ran for Rockford and we all looked at him as a demigod because he consistently ran 14:30 or lower. To imagine Ritz as 3rd 4th or 5th on a team is something I'm having trouble comprehending.
Graduated from East Kentwood myself, and attended there when Brian Hyde ran for us. He held the collegiate record in the 1500 ( 3.35.84 ) , and the fastest in the world that year ( 1995 ). Rockford and EK are still to this day pumping out some great runners.
@@Jon.A.Scholt Recently, 2 sprinters from EK were runner-ups a few years back in the NCAA National Championships. Another one ran a 20.02 in the 200 at JUCO his freshman year. Had a long distance runner finish runner-ip at NCAA National in 1500 his Freshman year also.
I strongly disagree with anyone who is saying 16:30. At a meet last year where they all ran the mile their times added up to 16:30 and they’ve clearly proven they’re in better shape. Sub-16 is very unlikely unless it’s an absolute perfect day for everyone, but I can realistically see a 16:10
Yeah, on the short track, they’ll have to constantly pass the other runners over the four miles. Almost like they’d be running in lane 2 the entire race.
16:28.....maybe if they all have a good day. Lapping the other teams will slow them down considerably. Running in lane 2 or 3 to pass slower teams will add significantly to their total distance. Keep in mind that they may have to do this on probably 40 to 45 curves of the 64 curves of an indoor 4 mile race. Also, individual times don't always translate to relay times. Carrying the baton in a distance relay does make a small difference in performance. I think that a lot depends on the number of teams in the race. They will certainly lap some teams more than once.
The guy on the back of the golf cart (@5:27 and other times in this video) is the real MVP. He should be a hype man for them during their record attempt!
I got to witness these guys running in person at the Sundown Track Series here in AZ right after I finished my 2 mile race and gotta say these people are absolutely nuts, best highschool runners in history without a doubt, i can't wait for their track season this year, fucking legends
@@lukecampbell8645 newbury park had 3 guys break Dathan's pb in the xc 5k. I think its safe to say when your team has 3 guys able to run sub 14:10 in a cross country race they are some of the greatest high school runners in history.
@@cicirunner You sending me down a rabbit hole. I read up on him a few years back wnd forgot his story. Amazing HS talent that never was great at college or pro level? Have to read up again, details are foggy.
There's no way they will break 16:00. Running a 4:05 is not nearly running a 3:59, and that is their third runner PR at this time. My bet is they will be in around 16:25 to 16:30. Still amazing, though. They had a remarkable 2021.
@@mjmdiver1137 my guess is 16:11, a lot of people didn’t believe Colin was gonna break 4 and I think these running with no competition will effect them
@@ashleyalsko4669 Maybe, but I doubt it. Their #1 can get under 4:00 by a second or two. #2 hasn't broken 4:00, so maybe they will come in at 4:03 or so. #3 can do 4:05. #4 is where? I don't know but if they are a 4:20 runner, you end up about where I said. One thing that makes this harder to accomplish is that they won't be running in a group after the first leg, so the weaker runners won't necessarily be able to be brought along by the faster runners in the pack if there is already seperation from the leaders when they get their leg started. That could mean they won't run a PB for their leg.
@@ashleyalsko4669 Did they do that in traffic on an indoor track? That will add a few seconds to be certain. This group is amazing regardless of what they do in this meet...
There's been such an evolution in high school training. Until fairly recently "overtraining" kids in HS was viewed negatively. Everyone talked about burnout. Now to compete at highest level in HS, you have to be doing insane level of training from like 13 years old on. Those that "burnout" will just be roadkill while others move on at the next level. Yes, agree, credit to Newbury coach for training them hard but intelligently and keeping them healthy.
Realistically I can see them breaking 16:20 this weekend. Their PRs suggest 16:10 is possible but this will be on an indoor track with slower runners they’ll have to pass. The fact that we’re debating whether this group breaking 16 is possible is mind boggling. Prep running in this country has come so far even since Ritz Hall and Webb were in hs. Coach Brosnan has the secret formula and it’s been incredible to watch what this team can do.
It'll be 16:05-16:15 based on the fact that their previous mile times would suggest around 16:20 and leo and lex are clearly in better shape than their last mile almost 8 months ago. However, looking at the splits from their workout on the L&L channel, if they all are to have a perfect race with sublime pacing and no traffic to weave around, sub 16:00 is a miniscule possibility.
I ran cross country for NPHS almost 50 years ago. I still remember the trails well, although the course we ran our races on is at least partly covered with houses now. But even the fastest guys on the team - who easily beat me - don't come close to these kids. I can't even imagine what their workout schedule is like.
@@summerlakephotog8239 I assume you didn't do that in one hike? That is two sets of mountain ranges with the Santa Rosa valley in between. I lived in Lynn Ranch at the time and enjoyed hiking in the canyon next to my house along with the open space on the other side watching the sheep graze. All that is houses now too. Well, not the canyon.
Great stuff, as usually, brother. Keep 'em rolling... Colin Sahlman, Newberry's best runner, ran just under 3:59 and was pushed to the very end in a highly competitive race against other elite runners. That won't be the case here. Aaron ran 4:05, pretty much running alone, but that was outdoors; Leo ran, I think 4:06, and Lex ran 4:08 high. Not to say that these are their ceilings, but if you add these up, it works out to around 16:18. Since they won't be pushed and will have to avoid slower runners on a smaller banked track, they'll probably each do around 2 to 3 seconds above these previous times, which means a collective time between 16:24 and 16:30.
This team is truly something else, a kid from my school last year broke our school record and got 3rd in state with 9:29, their fastest was almost a minute ahead, and their slowest 19 seconds faster. THAT IS INSANE
Absolutely! Newbury Park's No.5 would be the team captain in 99% of the high school track teams nation wide. Truly mind boggling. If this was football or basketball there would be many wondering if some sort of recruiting had been done. I mean, look at the odds.
There’s a video on Leo and Lex’s channel showcasing the Young and Sahlman brothers running a workout consisting of 800m (1 min rest), 400m (1 min rest), 400m again (7 min rest to recover), then repeating the set again, all at goal mile pace. Their splits were: 1:59, 58, 59, 1:58, 59, 59. Like TRP said, I’m not too optimistic about the 16:00 barrier being broken (considering that all four will need to feel great and have perfect pacing), but I definitely think the 16:20 barrier will broken and possibly 16:10 as well. Then again, anything is possible. Link to the video showcasing workout: th-cam.com/video/h0Jyms59bF0/w-d-xo.html
16:28.....maybe if they all have a good day. Lapping the other teams will slow them down considerably. Running in lane 2 or 3 to pass slower teams will add significantly to their total distance. Keep in mind that they may have to do this on probably 40 to 45 curves of the 64 curves of an indoor 4 mile race. Also, individual times don't always translate to relay times. Carrying the baton in a distance relay does make a small reduction in performance. Much will depend on how many teams will be competing. It's conceivable that they could lap 2nd place TWICE! Update; I was off by 1 second. Oh well. 🙂
Yes, it's getting ridiculous, but WOW - this is Great Stuff. I love our local team here. See these guys running around town and the trails often. Be Great Guys! Whoorah - the home town loves your amazing success!!!
i always feel bad when el guerrouj gets all the praise and everyone forgets about noah ngeny. He finished that race with him 0.2 sec behind him. If it weren't for him El Guerrouj never would've gotten so far.
My prediction: Aaron Sahlman-4:02 Lex Young-4:01 Leo Young-3:59 Colin Sahlman: 3:57 Total Time 16:00. Also I predict whichever Young brother it is that wasn’t injured for the first few meet will run a 3:59, I just couldn’t remember which one it was, so those two are interchangeable.
Sub 16 is insane in concept. I’m not even going to doubt them just because it will be hard enough as it is. As someone who was simply trying to break 17:00 with my HS team I have nothing but respect and hope for this team.
I'll not bet against 'em. Although 16.12 would be more realistic. And still be epic. And they'll be lapping slower teams in nightmare traffic. Hopefully the slowpokes move outta the way.
Pretty standard procedure that in the longer distance races when someone is attempting a new record all the competitors are told that once they fall off the pace to run in lane 2 when being overtaken.
It's funny to think that the third place finisher in the National cross country championship is the third best runner in the country, but it's possible that he's only third best in his gym class.
I used to live nearby and my favorite sushi place was in Newbury Park.. that's the only time I've ever heard it mentioned until now lol. One thing that it has going for it is the climate is very temperate all year, you could easily run in semi ideal temperatures especially at night, almost 12 months a year..
Lompoc California where my dad ran Cross country and 110 yard track in the 1970 has the same thing almost 10 months of the year. The flaws are winter in February can have some below 40 degree F days and in July to August for about 29--31 days there is some really hot weather over 70--80 F.
That's just insane. They'll probably shatter the HS record, but not break the 16 minute barrier. But that four high schoolers, let alone from the same school, are even in the conversation is just mindblowing!
Did anyone mention that the current record of 17:01.81 by Loudoun Valley, Purcellville, Virginia was set at I believe the same meet 3 yrs ago on March 9th! Unless they drop the baton or break a leg, that record is HISTORY!!
My fastest mile in high school was 5:15. Didnt have the typical runners frame. Just did it to stay in shape for basketball and baseball. 4 mins is flying. Good Luck to Newbury.
Let’s say Colin runs a 3:57 Lex and Leo around 4:00 maybe even 3:59 then Aaron would only need a 4:03. Which is totally realistic times for all of them.
Totally LOVE your video's. Their are so well designed that now I am actually crossing my fingers here for NP, even if I cannot name 1 highschool athlete in my own little country
I think they’re going to NewBalance Nationals at the Armory cause I’m going there for the DMR and I saw them on the entry list for the 4xMile. It’s on the same weekend as Nike.
16:15 to 16:20 seems doable but passing other runners might slow them a bit. On the plus side they may run fast in those later legs while 'chasing' to lap slower runners. They seem to run intervals at target pace leading up to big races so should have 'muscle and mental' memory of what 61 second quarters feel like. Over 30 years of coaching I've had a handful of runners approaching those marks but to have them all on the same team at the same time is amazing. Best of luck to them this weekend.
Gavin Sherry’s been dropping 4:05-4:06 miles solo after going out at sub 4 pace for the first 800. I don’t think these kids are slower than him, and they’re pretty tough mentally too-their role model is Nico Young, after all.
There is no way they go that slow. Have you seen the workout they just did? They went under 4min pace for every single rep. I say 16:20 is the absolute slowest they go
No. Not a chance. First off, Ireland's team had 4 runners who'd run sub 3:52, and two (Flynn and Coghlan) who'd gone sub 3:50. Newbury has one runner under 4:00. If you added up Ireland's PB they're 15:24; they ran 15:49. Add up Newbury's best in HS only races, and it is 16:30 (take Colin Sahlman's indoor record against pros, and it's still only 16:23. There's a huge difference between running a 4:00 mile (which only one of these runners has ever done) with competition to pace you/push you, and running a 4:00 mile solo...which is what Newbury's last three runners will have to do. Do I think they'll beat the existing 4 x 1 mile HS record of 16:47.11? Sure. But that's it. They won't approach 16:00, and I don't think they go sub 16:30. My prediction is 16:38.44.
Assuming Colin is last of that can get him the stick at atleast 12:01 sub 16 will happen. I’m not so sure we will see sub most likely around 16:05-16:15
The guy on the back of the golf cart (@5:27 and other times in this video) is the real MVP. He should be a hype man doe them during their record attempt!
THEY CAN DO IT!!!!! Focus up and it’s doable. Colin can do it again, lexleo are fast enough to do it, and Aaron can definitely do it if he can pace each lap properly (whatever he thinks works best for him) considering he ran 4:05 solo after going out very hard in 57 or whatever that split was
The best collegiate time at this distance is from a select group of the best runners from all over the US. Here is a group of athletes from the same community.
I live in NP and have seen them run; incredible! With no competition I just don’t see those kind of times, especially having to pass other people. I see 16:25 (4:02, 4:06, 4:08 and 4:09). Still absolutely incredible!
Breaking 16:00 is too much. Breaking 16:40 would be good. 16:30 would be great. And 16:20 would be incredible. I’m thinking they’ll do around 16:25. Still very historic.
I love it that when Sahlman crossed the line at Garmin, he was SPENT. He was stumbling, struggling to keep his feet underneath himself. Flat put it ALL out there and left it on the course. That's commitment.
If a HS team is ever going to break 16:00, this is it. I would be interested in hearing the probability of this top 4 ever happening again (with two sets of brothers, no less).
Make no mistake about it, Newbury Park has the horses to get close. I would certainly love to see it happen but you are correct in that the race would have to be executed to perfection with three of them running their mile legs in at least 4:01 with Colin Sahlman needing to run 3:57 to claim the record. Even for this fantastic group of athletes, this is an extremely tall order. It certainly would be epic and I will certainly be cheering for them. My prediction is they will be right around 16:05 if they all run a perfect race. I would be very happy if they prove me wrong though. This has been one very historic year for high school cross country with certainly more to come with the outdoor track season fast approaching.
If everything goes right, 16:05 to 16:15.is a real possibility. They'll really have to be aware of pacing on their own and probably be lapping some people. Hope there's a prerace meeting with all teams about managing traffic.
These studs will run around 16.24..National Record is definitely going to be blown away…There coach has got to be on cloud nine coaching these young studs..
What about the Lompoc team of 1972? The 1972 Fall Cross-Country season on the course and actually around the track is where Lompoc would make their mark as perhaps the best team ever in California and one of the best in National history. The group marched from Invitational to Invitational in 1972 stomping the competition in amazing manner. Meets such as the Palos Verdes Invitational, where runners on the varsity race against their counterparts on other groups (#1's against each other, next race #2's against each other, etc.) Lompoc simply won every varsity race right down the line, with Roger Fabing, who won the JV run for the Braves recording the #4 overall time for the day. On top, Terry Williams took down St. Bernard star Chris Hoffmans CR of 10:59 with a 10:43 clocking on the very challenging Palos Verdes hills, with the team winning a team time battle by over three minutes! At the by-grade Dos Pueblos Invitational Lompoc was 1-2-4-6 at the Senior level, and 1-2-4 on the Junior level, quite a scoring seven! At the Mt. SAC Invitational in the Sweeps race, the squad sat in the rear for most of the first mile before exploding to six of the top eleven places in a dominating win behind Terry Williams 9:52.3 victory.
It’s a 200 meter indoor track so they should always have lap traffic to chase, but I still think that it will be difficult for them to run a peak performance with little true competition. Colin = 4:05…Lex = 4:10…Leo=4:10…Aaron=4:15…Total=16:40.
@@uchennamaduno5799 plus, that 3k was on the exact same track. He ran a 4:05 outdoor with poor pacing and no real competition. I predict Aaron’s split will be faster than that
No way they get close to 16 I’m thinking 16:15 which is still super impressive just more realistic still a whole minute faster than the current high school record
This is amazing I'm rooting for that team I ran 16 minutes for 3.2 MI in Cross country back in 1976 then like an idiot got bad grades and after working so hard all summer long to try to go to 15 15 to 1530 I found out that my grades were so bad I didn't get to run make sure those kids are getting their grades
16:00 is asking for too much for high school students and all of which are from the same school.. I would say it will be around 16:15 which is still an amazing time
What type of drug testing is down in the states? Is it done at all winning games? I ask they don't test here in Australia till you get to nationals sometime states but have never heard or seen it.
That thumbnail for the video is cool, just a still photo but captures the stride of 4 uber talented runners side by side. A few look more efficient than others, but all work for them.
*Correction* - Newbury Park will be competing at New Balance Nationals, not Nike Indoor Nationals as we said in the video. Make sure to leave a comment on how fast you think they'll run as well.
16:27
16:16
Do you really believe some kids in so cal near the Mexico border don’t have PED’s?
16:24
16:00.01
Dear lord, imagine running a 14:44 and you're only fifth on your team! This is utter madness! I ran XC in HS in Michigan ('98-'01) when Dathan Ritzenhein ran for Rockford and we all looked at him as a demigod because he consistently ran 14:30 or lower. To imagine Ritz as 3rd 4th or 5th on a team is something I'm having trouble comprehending.
Graduated from East Kentwood myself, and attended there when Brian Hyde ran for us. He held the collegiate record in the 1500 ( 3.35.84 ) , and the fastest in the world that year ( 1995 ). Rockford and EK are still to this day pumping out some great runners.
@@jasonhuggins2182 Rockford was like a frickin factory in my time. And I'm not surprised they're still doing it.
@@Jon.A.Scholt Recently, 2 sprinters from EK were runner-ups a few years back in the NCAA National Championships. Another one ran a 20.02 in the 200 at JUCO his freshman year. Had a long distance runner finish runner-ip at NCAA National in 1500 his Freshman year also.
If he had a team like that Ritz would have just been faster to be #1!
If Ritz had run at running lane he probably would have broken 14 easy
I strongly disagree with anyone who is saying 16:30. At a meet last year where they all ran the mile their times added up to 16:30 and they’ve clearly proven they’re in better shape. Sub-16 is very unlikely unless it’s an absolute perfect day for everyone, but I can realistically see a 16:10
They'll have slower runners to pass, indoors, they won't be pushed, etc. 16:30 won't happen, but neither will 16:10. 16:20 is a good over/under
@@timmytheinventor4746 agreed!
Yeah, on the short track, they’ll have to constantly pass the other runners over the four miles. Almost like they’d be running in lane 2 the entire race.
@@Oooooo-xi2mx Perfect setup for a slower time but still crazy fast time tbh. That’s just gonna be like Sonic in a bunch of traffic XD
16:28.....maybe if they all have a good day. Lapping the other teams will slow them down considerably. Running in lane 2 or 3 to pass slower teams will add significantly to their total distance. Keep in mind that they may have to do this on probably 40 to 45 curves of the 64 curves of an indoor 4 mile race. Also, individual times don't always translate to relay times. Carrying the baton in a distance relay does make a small difference in performance. I think that a lot depends on the number of teams in the race. They will certainly lap some teams more than once.
Just imagine Jakob, Cheruiyot, Kerr, and Kipsang in a 4x1 mile relay
This would be... a phenomenal race/time trial
The guy on the back of the golf cart (@5:27 and other times in this video) is the real MVP. He should be a hype man for them during their record attempt!
Yeah but to be fair, you have to imagine those runners in High School….
Imagine capitalism allowing this actually good idea to ever happen.
They could run under 15:20 on the right day
I got to witness these guys running in person at the Sundown Track Series here in AZ right after I finished my 2 mile race and gotta say these people are absolutely nuts, best highschool runners in history without a doubt, i can't wait for their track season this year, fucking legends
the best group of high school athletes. Dathan Was better at the 5k in high school no doubt.
@@lukecampbell8645 newbury park had 3 guys break Dathan's pb in the xc 5k. I think its safe to say when your team has 3 guys able to run sub 14:10 in a cross country race they are some of the greatest high school runners in history.
What about German Fernandez? 4 flat and 8:33 wish double solo in the same meet.
@@cicirunner You sending me down a rabbit hole. I read up on him a few years back wnd forgot his story. Amazing HS talent that never was great at college or pro level? Have to read up again, details are foggy.
@@noneofyourbusiness6100 nice straw man right there, instantly invalidates your claim lmao
I’m guessing based off their PRs and what they have already done this season that they will be around 16:12 to like 16:16
There's no way they will break 16:00. Running a 4:05 is not nearly running a 3:59, and that is their third runner PR at this time. My bet is they will be in around 16:25 to 16:30. Still amazing, though. They had a remarkable 2021.
@@mjmdiver1137 my guess is 16:11, a lot of people didn’t believe Colin was gonna break 4 and I think these running with no competition will effect them
@@ashleyalsko4669 Maybe, but I doubt it. Their #1 can get under 4:00 by a second or two. #2 hasn't broken 4:00, so maybe they will come in at 4:03 or so. #3 can do 4:05. #4 is where? I don't know but if they are a 4:20 runner, you end up about where I said.
One thing that makes this harder to accomplish is that they won't be running in a group after the first leg, so the weaker runners won't necessarily be able to be brought along by the faster runners in the pack if there is already seperation from the leaders when they get their leg started. That could mean they won't run a PB for their leg.
@@mjmdiver1137 Lex and Leo both ran around 4:08s last year so I think they’ll get under 4:05 same with Aaron
@@ashleyalsko4669 Did they do that in traffic on an indoor track? That will add a few seconds to be certain.
This group is amazing regardless of what they do in this meet...
The fact that the national record is just over 17 minutes and thats not even what this debate is about is insane!!
4x1500 high school record in low 16s I’m pretty sure… they could beat that in a 4xmile which would be insane
Give credit to the coach. To keep them healthy and running at a high level consistently is amazing as well. Those kids landed with the right coach.
There's been such an evolution in high school training. Until fairly recently "overtraining" kids in HS was viewed negatively. Everyone talked about burnout. Now to compete at highest level in HS, you have to be doing insane level of training from like 13 years old on. Those that "burnout" will just be roadkill while others move on at the next level. Yes, agree, credit to Newbury coach for training them hard but intelligently and keeping them healthy.
@@Thomas-fk3cw agree with everything
Realistically I can see them breaking 16:20 this weekend. Their PRs suggest 16:10 is possible but this will be on an indoor track with slower runners they’ll have to pass. The fact that we’re debating whether this group breaking 16 is possible is mind boggling. Prep running in this country has come so far even since Ritz Hall and Webb were in hs. Coach Brosnan has the secret formula and it’s been incredible to watch what this team can do.
People are like slugs compared to these guys XD. All the passing will end up slowing them down by a few seconds or so. It’ll be fun to watch honestly
So...can you tell us more about that "secret formula"?
I agree whole heartily. See the marvelous times Matthew Boling ran in HS.
@@minolta7i there are interviews with coach Brosan
It'll be 16:05-16:15 based on the fact that their previous mile times would suggest around 16:20 and leo and lex are clearly in better shape than their last mile almost 8 months ago. However, looking at the splits from their workout on the L&L channel, if they all are to have a perfect race with sublime pacing and no traffic to weave around, sub 16:00 is a miniscule possibility.
Three blocks from Newbury High School are some very very steep running trails. This is some exciting stuff. Reminds of the movie McFarland.
Yes, except that the kids' parents in Newbury Park make more in an hour than the entire team's parents make in a year in McFarland.
@@thomasmckenzie4584 I suspected that. They showed that in the movie - McFarland beating those well-funded suburban schools.
I ran cross country for NPHS almost 50 years ago. I still remember the trails well, although the course we ran our races on is at least partly covered with houses now. But even the fastest guys on the team - who easily beat me - don't come close to these kids. I can't even imagine what their workout schedule is like.
@@rgoers I was living in Moorpark then. I would hike the hills between Newbury Park and Moorpark.
@@summerlakephotog8239 I assume you didn't do that in one hike? That is two sets of mountain ranges with the Santa Rosa valley in between. I lived in Lynn Ranch at the time and enjoyed hiking in the canyon next to my house along with the open space on the other side watching the sheep graze. All that is houses now too. Well, not the canyon.
4x1mile Saturday is going to be crazy. Newbury park is going to destroy the national record
Can't wait for this one!!
Great stuff, as usually, brother. Keep 'em rolling... Colin Sahlman, Newberry's best runner, ran just under 3:59 and was pushed to the very end in a highly competitive race against other elite runners. That won't be the case here. Aaron ran 4:05, pretty much running alone, but that was outdoors; Leo ran, I think 4:06, and Lex ran 4:08 high. Not to say that these are their ceilings, but if you add these up, it works out to around 16:18. Since they won't be pushed and will have to avoid slower runners on a smaller banked track, they'll probably each do around 2 to 3 seconds above these previous times, which means a collective time between 16:24 and 16:30.
Damn, you were right on
This team is truly something else, a kid from my school last year broke our school record and got 3rd in state with 9:29, their fastest was almost a minute ahead, and their slowest 19 seconds faster. THAT IS INSANE
Absolutely! Newbury Park's No.5 would be the team captain in 99% of the high school track teams nation wide. Truly mind boggling. If this was football or basketball there would be many wondering if some sort of recruiting had been done. I mean, look at the odds.
There’s a video on Leo and Lex’s channel showcasing the Young and Sahlman brothers running a workout consisting of 800m (1 min rest), 400m (1 min rest), 400m again (7 min rest to recover), then repeating the set again, all at goal mile pace. Their splits were: 1:59, 58, 59, 1:58, 59, 59. Like TRP said, I’m not too optimistic about the 16:00 barrier being broken (considering that all four will need to feel great and have perfect pacing), but I definitely think the 16:20 barrier will broken and possibly 16:10 as well. Then again, anything is possible.
Link to the video showcasing workout: th-cam.com/video/h0Jyms59bF0/w-d-xo.html
I saw that 🥵
Was absolutely insane!!!
Really great video! Keep up the great content.
I think 16:24 is a good over/under for their time, and I think I’d take the under.
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Such a GOAT channel, Bravo! You deserve all the success you’re having with it
0% they break 16, 16:20 is my guess and that's still unfathomably fast for anyone, especially High School kids
We’ll see 📸
Yeah, agree 0%, but it will be insane time, my guess 16:15ish. Heavy on the ish.
So excited that I’ll be able to watch it live on Saturday
16:28.....maybe if they all have a good day. Lapping the other teams will slow them down considerably. Running in lane 2 or 3 to pass slower teams will add significantly to their total distance. Keep in mind that they may have to do this on probably 40 to 45 curves of the 64 curves of an indoor 4 mile race. Also, individual times don't always translate to relay times. Carrying the baton in a distance relay does make a small reduction in performance. Much will depend on how many teams will be competing. It's conceivable that they could lap 2nd place TWICE!
Update; I was off by 1 second. Oh well. 🙂
I was off by 1 second. Oh well. 🙂
Wow you had the most accurate analysis and almost perfect answer lol genius
@@erikdominguez3368 Thank you. It all seemed to make sense to me. 🏃
Man you hype me up, can’t wait to see them attempt the record
Yes, it's getting ridiculous, but WOW - this is Great Stuff. I love our local team here. See these guys running around town and the trails often. Be Great Guys! Whoorah - the home town loves your amazing success!!!
They ran it in 16:29.31. Aaron ran a 4:11, Leo a 4:07, Lex a 4:07 and Colin a 4:04
My team would consist of 4 clones of Hicham El Guerrouj when he set the WR
i always feel bad when el guerrouj gets all the praise and everyone forgets about noah ngeny. He finished that race with him 0.2 sec behind him. If it weren't for him El Guerrouj never would've gotten so far.
Aren’t they running the 4x1mile at New Balance Nationals? Not @ Nike?
Correct, at the armory
awesome video
They're not running at Nike Nationals, they're running at New Balance Nationals, which is at the Armory, not Ocean Breeze.
@@fliggle10 lol check entires if u don't believe me... plus trp literally just commented correcting himself
My prediction: Aaron Sahlman-4:02 Lex Young-4:01 Leo Young-3:59 Colin Sahlman: 3:57 Total Time 16:00. Also I predict whichever Young brother it is that wasn’t injured for the first few meet will run a 3:59, I just couldn’t remember which one it was, so those two are interchangeable.
Sub 16 is insane in concept. I’m not even going to doubt them just because it will be hard enough as it is. As someone who was simply trying to break 17:00 with my HS team I have nothing but respect and hope for this team.
they're so good that a friend of mine (we live in Florida) literally moved across the country just to join them.
16:16. Lots of traffic indoors. Good luck NP!
No video on Grant Fisher new AR?
Watched the relay in person and it was crazy
I'll not bet against 'em. Although 16.12 would be more realistic. And still be epic. And they'll be lapping slower teams in nightmare traffic. Hopefully the slowpokes move outta the way.
Pretty standard procedure that in the longer distance races when someone is attempting a new record all the competitors are told that once they fall off the pace to run in lane 2 when being overtaken.
Given the lack of competition, I would say 16 flat is out of the question. I think a time of 16:20-16:30 is far more likely.
Wow that's insane gor the whole squad to so good at their age.
Man I can't wait to see this
Records are meant to be Broken. Let's go
It's funny to think that the third place finisher in the National cross country championship is the third best runner in the country, but it's possible that he's only third best in his gym class.
16:29 Wow unbelievable
I used to live nearby and my favorite sushi place was in Newbury Park.. that's the only time I've ever heard it mentioned until now lol. One thing that it has going for it is the climate is very temperate all year, you could easily run in semi ideal temperatures especially at night, almost 12 months a year..
Lompoc California where my dad ran Cross country and 110 yard track in the 1970 has the same thing almost 10 months of the year. The flaws are winter in February can have some below 40 degree F days and in July to August for about 29--31 days there is some really hot weather over 70--80 F.
Well done
That's just insane. They'll probably shatter the HS record, but not break the 16 minute barrier. But that four high schoolers, let alone from the same school, are even in the conversation is just mindblowing!
16 I think is a stretch, more like 16:15. But OMG THAT IS AN INCREDIBLE TEAM!!! I hope you prove me wrong fellas! Good luck!
I’m predicting a 16:15. Even that will be insane, given that each runner will need to average 4:04
Did anyone mention that the current record of 17:01.81 by Loudoun Valley, Purcellville, Virginia was set at I believe the same meet 3 yrs ago on March 9th! Unless they drop the baton or break a leg, that record is HISTORY!!
Love the videos keep it up
My fastest mile in high school was 5:15. Didnt have the typical runners frame. Just did it to stay in shape for basketball and baseball. 4 mins is flying. Good Luck to Newbury.
They are going to CRUSH that high school record.
Let’s say Colin runs a 3:57 Lex and Leo around 4:00 maybe even 3:59 then Aaron would only need a 4:03. Which is totally realistic times for all of them.
Totally LOVE your video's. Their are so well designed that now I am actually crossing my fingers here for NP, even if I cannot name 1 highschool athlete in my own little country
I think they’re going to NewBalance Nationals at the Armory cause I’m going there for the DMR and I saw them on the entry list for the 4xMile. It’s on the same weekend as Nike.
16:15 to 16:20 seems doable but passing other runners might slow them a bit. On the plus side they may run fast in those later legs while 'chasing' to lap slower runners. They seem to run intervals at target pace leading up to big races so should have 'muscle and mental' memory of what 61 second quarters feel like. Over 30 years of coaching I've had a handful of runners approaching those marks but to have them all on the same team at the same time is amazing. Best of luck to them this weekend.
I believe!!!!!!!!!!
Fantastic
I'd give them a 16:30 at best since they won't really have any competition since the mental for that is near impossible
Gavin Sherry’s been dropping 4:05-4:06 miles solo after going out at sub 4 pace for the first 800. I don’t think these kids are slower than him, and they’re pretty tough mentally too-their role model is Nico Young, after all.
There is no way they go that slow. Have you seen the workout they just did? They went under 4min pace for every single rep. I say 16:20 is the absolute slowest they go
Here I was thinking my 4:35 mile in college was fast
Showed that Oregon team and said “even this team couldn’t do it” like there wasn’t an OBVIOUS ball and chain on that team
Possible yes but more likely they will avg. 4:06 per miler👍
Coach Sean has been talking ab running this event since Woodbridge this fall so I think they’re going to get really close
2:20 He is number 3 behind Hobbs Kessler and Drew Hunter
Correction: I meant Hobs Kessler (5:11)
No. Not a chance.
First off, Ireland's team had 4 runners who'd run sub 3:52, and two (Flynn and Coghlan) who'd gone sub 3:50. Newbury has one runner under 4:00. If you added up Ireland's PB they're 15:24; they ran 15:49. Add up Newbury's best in HS only races, and it is 16:30 (take Colin Sahlman's indoor record against pros, and it's still only 16:23.
There's a huge difference between running a 4:00 mile (which only one of these runners has ever done) with competition to pace you/push you, and running a 4:00 mile solo...which is what Newbury's last three runners will have to do.
Do I think they'll beat the existing 4 x 1 mile HS record of 16:47.11? Sure. But that's it. They won't approach 16:00, and I don't think they go sub 16:30. My prediction is 16:38.44.
Assuming Colin is last of that can get him the stick at atleast 12:01 sub 16 will happen. I’m not so sure we will see sub most likely around 16:05-16:15
The order is Aaron, Leo, Lex, and Colin
I think he’ll get the stick at 12:15, and Colin will drop a 4:01 split. 16:16 final time
The guy on the back of the golf cart (@5:27 and other times in this video) is the real MVP. He should be a hype man doe them during their record attempt!
THEY CAN DO IT!!!!! Focus up and it’s doable. Colin can do it again, lexleo are fast enough to do it, and Aaron can definitely do it if he can pace each lap properly (whatever he thinks works best for him) considering he ran 4:05 solo after going out very hard in 57 or whatever that split was
I reckon they'll run under 16:20. But not 16:00. They're still kids at the end of the day, which blows my mind. Unbelievable talent
The best collegiate time at this distance is from a select group of the best runners from all over the US. Here is a group of athletes from the same community.
they are so fast! insane that they’re on the same high school team
I think most people here have it right! I also think it will be somewhere between 16:10 - 16:15.
I live in NP and have seen them run; incredible! With no competition I just don’t see those kind of times, especially having to pass other people. I see 16:25 (4:02, 4:06, 4:08 and 4:09). Still absolutely incredible!
16:28
Calling it.
It was 16:29. Almost nailed it.
I will predict a bold 16:06. It’ll be tough, but it is in the cards
Hello total running productions! what is the song at 3:48? It sounds really nice
I love youre videos so much, especially newberry park, jakob ingebrikson, and kipchoge… idk how to spell their names lol
I dont think they'll break 16 minute because they need competition but I'm guessing around 16:15 for them
I've raced this team before. They look stronger as a team than anyone else on the field.
16:10-16:15 for sure
Breaking 16:00 is too much. Breaking 16:40 would be good. 16:30 would be great. And 16:20 would be incredible. I’m thinking they’ll do around 16:25. Still very historic.
Bingo!
not having any close competition will make it VERY tough for them to break 16:30
I love it that when Sahlman crossed the line at Garmin, he was SPENT. He was stumbling, struggling to keep his feet underneath himself. Flat put it ALL out there and left it on the course. That's commitment.
Yeah, but he didn't hurl... makes me wonder why he was holding back so much, hahaha...
Realistically I think sub 16:20 is in the cards
I predict they'll run between 16:20 - 16:30
If a HS team is ever going to break 16:00, this is it. I would be interested in hearing the probability of this top 4 ever happening again (with two sets of brothers, no less).
Make no mistake about it, Newbury Park has the horses to get close. I would certainly love to see it happen but you are correct in that the race would have to be executed to perfection with three of them running their mile legs in at least 4:01 with Colin Sahlman needing to run 3:57 to claim the record. Even for this fantastic group of athletes, this is an extremely tall order. It certainly would be epic and I will certainly be cheering for them. My prediction is they will be right around 16:05 if they all run a perfect race. I would be very happy if they prove me wrong though. This has been one very historic year for high school cross country with certainly more to come with the outdoor track season fast approaching.
If everything goes right, 16:05 to 16:15.is a real possibility. They'll really have to be aware of pacing on their own and probably be lapping some people. Hope there's a prerace meeting with all teams about managing traffic.
These studs will run around 16.24..National Record is definitely going to be blown away…There coach has got to be on cloud nine coaching these young studs..
What about the Lompoc team of 1972?
The 1972 Fall Cross-Country season on the course and actually around the track is where Lompoc would make their mark as perhaps the best team ever in California and one of the best in National history. The group marched from Invitational to Invitational in 1972 stomping the competition in amazing manner. Meets such as the Palos Verdes Invitational, where runners on the varsity race against their counterparts on other groups (#1's against each other, next race #2's against each other, etc.) Lompoc simply won every varsity race right down the line, with Roger Fabing, who won the JV run for the Braves recording the #4 overall time for the day. On top, Terry Williams took down St. Bernard star Chris Hoffmans CR of 10:59 with a 10:43 clocking on the very challenging Palos Verdes hills, with the team winning a team time battle by over three minutes! At the by-grade Dos Pueblos Invitational Lompoc was 1-2-4-6 at the Senior level, and 1-2-4 on the Junior level, quite a scoring seven! At the Mt. SAC Invitational in the Sweeps race, the squad sat in the rear for most of the first mile before exploding to six of the top eleven places in a dominating win behind Terry Williams 9:52.3 victory.
I think 2 will go sub 4, which would be stupendous, but overall they will be about 16:08.
It’s a 200 meter indoor track so they should always have lap traffic to chase, but I still think that it will be difficult for them to run a peak performance with little true competition. Colin = 4:05…Lex = 4:10…Leo=4:10…Aaron=4:15…Total=16:40.
Aaron 4:15??? Aaron split 4:16 en-route to his 8:01 3k a month ago, there is exactly zero chance he runs in that range. Same goes for Lex and Leo.
There’s no chance aaron runs that slowly
@@uchennamaduno5799 plus, that 3k was on the exact same track. He ran a 4:05 outdoor with poor pacing and no real competition. I predict Aaron’s split will be faster than that
@@uchennamaduno5799 what is your prediction? For each runner and the overall team?
@@benanastasoff8980 what is your prediction? For each runner and the overall team?
Imagine running a two-mile in nine minutes and ten seconds and having five of your teammates finish way ahead of you!!!
No way they get close to 16 I’m thinking 16:15 which is still super impressive just more realistic still a whole minute faster than the current high school record
This is amazing I'm rooting for that team I ran 16 minutes for 3.2 MI in Cross country back in 1976 then like an idiot got bad grades and after working so hard all summer long to try to go to 15 15 to 1530 I found out that my grades were so bad I didn't get to run make sure those kids are getting their grades
Will it be broadcast somewhere?
16:00 is asking for too much for high school students and all of which are from the same school.. I would say it will be around 16:15 which is still an amazing time
I hope they all end up at the same college
What type of drug testing is down in the states?
Is it done at all winning games? I ask they don't test here in Australia till you get to nationals sometime states but have never heard or seen it.
Juiced
@@mattanderson5821 On what? EPO?
That thumbnail for the video is cool, just a still photo but captures the stride of 4 uber talented runners side by side. A few look more efficient than others, but all work for them.
I think Newbury Park will run 16:25 for 4x1 mile relay.
Bingo
No way! 16:25.7.
Wow Such talent at that young age. I sure hope they do it however unlikely. the time would be amazing non the less