(Part 1: How to Make) 3D Printer Enclosure for Your Health Safety | No More Breathing Plastic Fume
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 12 พ.ค. 2024
- In this Part 1 of video, I talk about how to make an affordable 3D Printer Enclosure with Negative Pressure technique that keeps you safe from breathing in potentially harmful plastic fume. FDM 3D printing is known to generate potentially harmful UFP (Ultra Fine Particle) and VOC (Volatile Organic Compound) when you are exposed for a long time, and I believe that it is important to keep the air you are constantly breathing free of chemicals for your long term health.
With this technique known as "Negative Pressure", you can build an enclosure that can achieve clean air without any filter which needs to be cleaned or replaced in a regular basis, saving maintenance cost. I hope this video contributes to keep you healthy and enjoy 3d printing without worrying about potential health risk.
3D Printer:
- CR-10 Mini (Canada): amzn.to/2Iw7Fov
- CR-10 Mini (US): amzn.to/2XVoGfB
Materials used to build the enclosure:
- IKEA base cabinet frame - SEKTION: www.ikea.com/ca/en/catalog/pr...
- IKEA shelf - UTRUSTA: www.ikea.com/ca/en/catalog/pr...
- IKEA coffee Lack table: www.ikea.com/ca/en/catalog/pr...
- Homedepot 17ft. Medium Gap Premium Rubber Weather Seal Tape in Whilte: www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.17...
- Vivosun 4" inline duct booster fan 100CFM: amzn.to/2DoOWa2
- Dundas Jafine 4" Dryer Transition Duct: www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.pr...
- Goodfellow 1/8-inch 2feet x 4feet Whilte Hardboard Panel: www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.18...
- EzConnect Dryer Duct to Wall Connector: www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.ez...
- IKEA LEDBERG LED Spoltlight: www.ikea.com/ca/en/catalog/pr...
- Springfield Thermometer: www.homedepot.ca/en/home/p.11...
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What a great video. Thank you for not playing Uber annoying music while you were talking. Being thorough. And describing exactly what you were doing.
Absolutely love the reuse of the soda bottle! Bravo!
I knew I'd eventually have a use for that giant vent tubing I found on the side of the road
That was a helpful Video! Thank you for uploading this :)
Thanks man! This is my first youtube video, and I am really glad it helped. Thanks!!
Great video! And great explanations!!
This is very helpful. Thank you!
Print parts for your exhaust connections.
Thanks for the ideas!!
Hi, great video! But why did you choose to mount the spool externally? Thanks!
Thank you for this.
Thank you sooooo much for making this video! I've invested in a resin SLA printer which I've yet to use. I find it horrendous that so many people on youtube seem to operate it carelessly... I'm in the slow process of building an enclosure like this (this gave me inspiration for certain bits, love some of the creative solutions) Even with an inline fan and enclosure I still feel like I should do more for safety precautions and proper ventilation before I fire it up!
Add an activated charcoal filter inline with the exhaust fan...that can definitely help
thanks buddy, for your idea
like your sharing, i will make one for my machine, just want to double confirm, if i print with ASB material, the exhaust fan will not cause warping issue with your design, right?
Thanks this is a great video
Excellente et importante vidéo. Merci.
Mais la pression négative interne ne doit pas être trop élevée au risque d'aspirer les gaz brulés si vous avez une cheminée, une chaudière ou un chauffe-eau à gaz. Prenez garde.
Le mieux est d'utiliser l'imprimante ailleurs que dans un lieu de vie (garage, cave ventilée, atelier...).
Did you use a 3/8 inch drill when making the hole in the top? I have a 3/8 inch drill and am trying to find out if that is enough to manage 4inch hole saw through the wood. Thanks!
Wow very well done of you smart
Just watched this, 6 minutes in and its great but im surprised you used a soda bottle instead of 3d printing something
I’m creating something similar using fire resistant drywall and Nomex seal for a front door.
Thanx 👍🏼
Thank you for the useful tutorial. Did the enclosure made a difference in terms of warping prevention?
ALSAHAFI13 Thanks man! I haven’t had seen any warping happening yet with the enclosure. When i see my thermometer, the temperature is usually much higher than room temperature even with ventilation fan running, but i think it really depends on how strong your fan is and the temperature of your room which can be vary. In general i think having the enclosure definitely helps to prevent warping than non-enclosure situation.
"Sektion" is named as "Metod" in certain parts of the world.
Can I ask why that gap should be at bottom? What if set that gap at Upper or side edge?
I tried building one and I am having a little trouble, I don’t know why but mine seems to not be negative pressure. Could it be my fan isn’t strong enough?
What materials make your head hurt? pla and petg and tpu? or other material
Nice design. Very detailed video. Thx for posting. Love the Homedepot+Ikea listing (v helpful as I also live in Canada).
One Question: Do you have any outside weather impact on the print quality from the design? Or is there enough isolation from the outside due to the pressure going out rather than in? We live in a "cold" climate and outside temperature can drop fairly low -- I'm in Toronto and we get winter celsius well into the negative, and in summer to over 30. And, of course, humidity is also highly variable too. Do you notice any variability in your print quality due to this with the enclosure or is it similar to that without the enclosure? Thx. N
Thanks Neil! Yes you are right. Since the fan actively forces the air to flow only outward direction (from indoor to outdoor), the temperature outside should not affect the temperature inside the enclosure as long as your room temperature stays the same. So as long as you can keep the room temperature constant, it should be okay. But in some cases, as the outdoor temperature gets colder, because of the limited heating to the room, the room temperature might also drop a bit. In that case, I think it could affect the enclosure temperature, since the air entering to the enclosure is already colder in the first place.
Are you trying to print with ABS? If so, I haven't personally tested this enclosure with ABS yet since I mostly work with PLA. With PLA, I didn't notice variation yet, but I should also say that I haven't had enough test time to run this enclousure with different seasons.
But if your goal is to keep the enclosure temperature constant with this enclosure, I think it would be better to place a portable heater inside with thermostat to actively adjust heat supply in order to keep the temperature constant. One of portable heater I have keeping my eyes on is this:
www.amazon.ca/Portable-Ceramic-Overheat-Protection-Electric/dp/B07JQF8W7V/ref=sxbs_sxwds-stvp?keywords=portable+heater+thermostat+remote&pd_rd_i=B07JQF8W7V&pd_rd_r=46617b68-722e-4f47-befd-9815a397daae&pd_rd_w=DGMgQ&pd_rd_wg=uvQnN&pf_rd_p=2be78364-2225-4104-8cb4-13e69d670ea9&pf_rd_r=KWAT1GKKCMCY465A0YAR&qid=1549878366&s=gateway
It has a thermostat and remote control that might allows you to control it outside the enclosure. The only downside is the max. temperature limit is only upto 32 Celcius degree, which might be a bit low.
but isnt the point of an enclosure to minimize drafts? So if you build it like you do doesnt this cause a lot of warping etc.?
Do you turn on the fume extractor during the whole print or just at the end? It seems like you leave it running. But some filaments need an enclosure to keep the temperature up. Wouldn't this make it harder to print these materials?
Nobody has answered but yes, in those cases it will. There are some fan systems designed to keep heat in one side of the loop which would help but if your filament needs high heat, you are better off using it in a room isolated from inhabited areas of the home like a shed. These ventilated solutions are for people who are printing in the home and do not wish to suffer adverse health risks. When it comes down to difficulty printing vs long term health, hopefully people are picking long term health.
@acephantom903 Yeah, I made an enclosure and vented it outside using and old PC fan. It is a balancing act to get the fumes out without putting a breeze across the print, but I think I've got it.
I got a resin printer recently. How would you go different about this build for a printer where you have to be able to take a cover off?
Where the printer is held inside the enclosure you could make a slide out plate similar to how a drawer works.
I literally just got acrylic sheets to build a box around my printer, a very similar design to this. I was planning to use two fans, one to get air out, and one fan to take air in, but now that I know about negative pressure, I think I will just go with the fan that takes air out of the box. Thanks!
Glad that you learned about the negative pressure!!
How do you calculate the amount of Intake needed?
i will build my enclosure inspired by yours. but one question. how much did the glas panel cost you? was it cutted to your measurements or did you find a fitting one ?
Alex Grisold Hi Alex. Sure. This is the price I found from my old email. This is in CAD from Vancouver local retailer. They had fixed size option but I think it might be possible to ask for specific size with additional cost.
APS Clear acrylic panels, saw cut edges
1 each 3mm thick x 24" x 15" $18.60 each
1 each 3mm thick x 24" x 30" $37.20 each
1 each 3mm thick x 24" x 48" $49.60 each
@@curiousor1154 thx. I live in germany and the avg price is about Double the prive you had to pay.. maybe i Just make a wooden door with a smaller glass see-through
That would work too. When I bought the acrylic panel, I actually checked multiple big stores first which had much more expensive than the one I mentioned. So i ended up contacting a few local retailers to eventually find the lowest price. But i think a partial transparent window would be definitely cheaper solution.
@@curiousor1154 thx for the input
@@curiousor1154 I'd be curious to know which local retailer you went to as I am also in Van
hello,
nice build! How thick is the plexiglas?
And how bad are the fumes after printing and washing down the object? Im new to 3d printing and have no experience. Trying to build my enclosure.
It is probably 1/4 inch thick, since the weatherstrip is about the same size, and the weatherstrip is 5/16 inch
@@maxsthekat84 thanks
Your enclosure build looks very nice.
Do you have a problem or concern that birds or insects might come in the outlet?
Our dryer was vented outside but cold air would come in. So, several years ago, I got a one-way dryer vent from Home Depot. Now the laundry room doesn't get as cold as it did before.
Thanks David. I think you made a pretty good point. I think there is a possibility that something like a bird could go in. So what you suggest seems pretty good idea to prevent that. Or maybe i will think about installing something like a mosquito screen at vent out. When i don’t run my printer, i usually detach the male duct adapter from female, and cover the female connector with a rubber wrap to prevent cold air from entering my room. So that worked out okay for me. But I think the one-way vent out you mentioned will also do the job. Thanks for the suggestion!!
Couldn't a warmed up filter condense volatile particles better than a cold filter?
Where did you get the transparent front door?
user pc probably from a rubber/plastic store
Does anyone know if using a computer fan or a duct fan matters?
Lets Time That is a good question. It actually matter a lot which type of fan you choose. Duct fan is usually much more powerful and designed to push air through duct when there is more pressure difference which is what we need in the negative pressure enclosure. I explain it in another video, so please check it out th-cam.com/video/TVoyy_Wh6cM/w-d-xo.html
Do I need hammer drill to build this?
Hi, guys. I would like to hear how you guys think about breathing plastic fume from FDM 3d printer. Do you think it's overly concerned? Or do you think it is a valid concern we should worry about?
Personally, I can't print PLA because I felt sick from the smell (nausea, headache). It happened when I entered poorly ventilated room where the printer was printing overnight. It is that sweet smell. I have no idea if it is the yellow eSun filament or what. Currently I am printing PETG only (no issues) and building a similar enclosure using the same IKEA kitchen furniture as the base. Although I will attempt to make plexiglass slide up/down, because I feel like there is no need for a perfect seal as long as the air is pumped out.
@@OrbitalCookie Hi Mercury! Yes, I also sometimes smell from certain brand of PLA filament I purchased. And I agree that there is no need for perfect seal as long as there is enough pressure difference between the enclosure and the outside. Being said, more seal will help to minimize the chance of plastic particles from escaping from the enclosure since there will be larger pressure difference, but I agree that there is no clear cut on how much seal is required. We just need to experiment to find out what works the best for own design. Thanks!
With ABS definitely
Forbes made studies that it can be very harmful, specially if you have asthma. It was not recomended to be used in the same apartment , but with very good enclosure it was ok. Particles that goes into your lung, and possible of cancer
I don't think it matters how safe it's claimed to be or how odorless it is really. You don't want any prolonged exposure to anything except oxygen really. Remember lots of dangerous chemicals are odorless also.
You literally could print parts for the enclosure with the printer you have.
Built a full enclosure with thermometer, lights, and fan ventilation. Proceeds to print a benchy. LMAO. (Facepalm)
am i the only one having trouble understanding this dialect?
Yes. You're the only one.
Yeah, my girlfriend is not allowed to complain about me using 3d printer.
I think my solution was easier than yours.
I would recommend to be careful, you may feel "okay" with the odor, but the damages to your lungs can be irreparable and costly
so instead of you inhaling the fumes it's much better just sending them out the window? xD
Stefan Jensen That is good angle of thought. I actually also have thought about that. But in this video I am not trying to say it is better for environment or earth. The focus of this video is if you decided to use 3D printing, it would be safer to use an enclosure for your health. I am not saying it is better for environment at all. If one doesn’t want to pollute outside air, i think the best way is probably not to use 3D printing at all or any plastic. Because if you use 3D printing without an enclosure, you will just breath highly concentrated UFP in your room as well as that air will eventually escape into the atmosphere which will end up with the same result as when you are using an enclosure.
If you are really concern about the environmental impact from your 3D printing, but if you still want to do 3D printing, I think one of ways to do it is to install a HEPA filter at the outlet of your duct to minimize the number of UFP released to the atmosphere. But this will increase the static friction a lot and you probably need a much stronger duct fan to overcome the friction.
But because atmosphere is vastly large, and the number of people using 3D printer is not huge yet, I think the atmosphere can act as a giant buffer where the concentration of UFP become so insignificant to affect anyone’s health once it is diluted to atmosphere. But I don’t have any research data showing this. It is just my guess. But I don”t rule out the possibility of negative impact on atmosphere 3D printing might bring in the future. It is possible that as more people start using 3D printer, there might be a point that the atmosphere can be affected by this to the degree that people’s health can be affected.
I appreciate you bring up a topic with different perspective.
@@curiousor1154 that train of thought have been used through all of modern humanity and is partly to blame for our current environmental issues.
And it wasn't to take away from your project, the idea was great!
you should just as you say yourself have put in a HEPA and a activated carbon filter to take all the toxic particles out of the air, not just for the environment but other animals and potentially humans passing by, some people react strongly to the fumes from plastics like ABS :)
Stefan Jensen I totally agree with you. It is better safe than sorry!
@@Deathbyfartz And where does that used filter go when it is spent??? Landfill. So, in turn, you are still polluting.
@@blamm5348 first of a HEPA filter should last you a good 3 years, secondly you can wash them.
and honestly id rather have them breaking down used filters, than i want someone to let toxic fumes out of their window, we can't all behave like americans, cause then the world is really screwed xD
you must be Korean.