Do you need to have a custom tune for having 155/30 injectors. My truck is studded and deleted but when idling it puffs out a little black smoke and the injectors are kinda everywhere on my power balance.
Nice video! I commented on your last video asking why my injectors were so loud turns out it was my flex plate and torque converter! The guy I bought it from never bolted them together.
ive wanted to modify my own injectors forever! unfortunately only place near me charge $75 bucks apiece to clean and test last time screwed up my last set lasted a week all my spool valves were loose. thought about throwing a modified set in my brothers truck for testing but hes been getting smarter about things like that.
I rebuilt my injectors about a year ago. No problems so far. I wish I’d known about the mods you did. The only difference to what I did, I cleaned everything using an ultrasonic cleaner. I hoped you’d do the top seal, as that’s also the only one I didn’t change, as I couldn’t figure out a way to pull the internal c-clip without damaging everything. Would those mods do anything on a stick tune till I started doing my upgrades? Thanks for another awesome video.
I saw you had the ball bearing you pressed in does that come with the kit or did you source them separately if so where did you get them I wanna get the same ones
curious what does putting the ball bearing do - reserve more fuel in the chamber? so that would have to be tuned right? and what are the effects, more power, better fuel effieciency, better atomization?
If I'm not mistaken, you can make that a 175/30 by added a 2nd shim plate and plugging the spill port. No its the best way, but it is a way that you can do it
youre correct however some would tell you to shy away from adding a second stock shim plate due to sealing issues and a couple other variables, its just better to just cut the plunger .035ish inches to net the same result along with the plugged spill port... or like .035 plung & .050 off ip will net like 190 i believe is what it is
@@iiSpirityV2 Sounds about right, stacking shim plates and make uneven sizes as each plunger should be measured separately, you are also lifting the solenoid up and may create sealing issues on the oil rail or extra stress in the solenoid
@@Peaksideperformance i like to play on the dangerous side tho and its hard to find a machine shop that will create shims at the metering plates so it is a cost effective way that i may be willing to try on the next crap set i get to rebuild
S363! 64 and above is a little to large m, but if you run a small exhaust wheel and a tight housing, it would prolly be ok and will offer more top end power.
Mostly daily drive it. Been thinking about getting the diy kit for years now.... would I need to change anything to run the s363 turbo. $861 without exhaust housing. Am I able to reuse my current turbos exhaust housing?
You will need to run a S300 turbo kit. Comes with pedestal, up-pipes, drain and feed. It’s entirely different turbo and turbo set up. You will not be able to use your current exhaust housing. Sounds like you should do a little research to understand what it exactly means to put a non vgt turbo on.
Ive heard occasionally plugging spill ports causes some minor idling issues that can be tuned out but do you write your own tunes or know what parameters they are changing?
Comfortably a 190/30 would be the max I would tow if towing frequently and heavy. You would also want supporting mods such as exhaust, turbo, gauges, and a good tow tune.
From what I understand these injectors at high pressure create some bleed back. The spill ports give that bleed back a place to go. This helps quite injector noise and increase idle performance.
For a daily driver that I occasionally use to haul my 28ft camper. Would you recommend 155/30 or 175/30 injectors. I have a few other things that need to be first but It’s always good info to have
155/30! No doubt, if you go any larger you will need a full fuel system. 155/30 will put you about 500rwhp which is more than what new trucks are making!
It’s a conservative size injector. Can be run with stock fuel system, stock turbo etc. also the modifications are simple when compared to going larger. It’s also safe power long term for the transmission.
So I understand you should have custom tuning with any aftermarket injector you go with but say you have 155/30 injectors that don’t have the blocked spill port should you still need custom tunes or should it be fine at an idle? I guess I should say I have warren premium injectors and I’m not 100% sure if they would block the spill port or if they would do it the “proper way”. I’ve always heard it’s hit or miss with their injectors.
Plugged spill ports or not-anytime you go to bigger injectors you will want custom tuning to utilize the potential of the injector. With that said 155/30 that don’t have plugged spill ports don’t have idle issues. Custom Tuning will manipulate pulse width to utilize the extra fuel properly and most efficiently. Custom tuning is by far THE BEST modification you can make to the truck for the price to performance gain.
Hey Left Lane informative content thank you much. I'm still in the process of stage 2ing my 6.0 KC Turbo stage 2 and 175/30, who would you choose for injectors Holders injectors or Pure Power, what's your thoughts. Also what is flow benching injectors? Shout out to you and the channel.
All of the companies you listed are awesome companies that stand behind their product! Flow benching injectors is a method for accurately determining how many cc’s of fuel the injector flows. When they build the injectors they will flow bench and then balance each injector to flow the proper cc’s. 🤘🤙
@@LeftLaneDiesels Appreciate you big time Left Lane, and now I feel much better lol, I'm still waiting on the Regulated Fuel Return from XDP back ordered until June. Thanks for your insight 👍🏽
Shoo owner here, installed an engine sent to us by you requested by our customer. Failed, warranty voided. I want to know why it failed, customer refused to send engine in to you.guys to be evaluated, instructed us to reassemble because they are just going to use it untill it dies, which wont be long. Im curious if there is anything we missed. Engine was over heated which is a problem. But the one cylinfer scored up doesnt make sense. Looking for knowledge not free shit. Ill pay for knowledge, understand being busy and if you cant reach out. Thanks. Jake. Owner/operator.
You said “installed engine sent to us by you” and “customer refused to send engine in to you guys”. Who is “you” in these phrases. I do not sell engines. I make TH-cam videos
So when asked for your tune the injector size would be 155/30 with a blocked larger spill port. And that should get you pretty close of not dead on with those diy injectors? A 500$ kit seems pretty temping. I'm going to try it on the step child truck. The one that just gets the junk and always missing parts for the tow rig. Can't hurt and for 500 bucks might be able to.save more than that down the road with say some 195/ stock and add over sized later. It's a very interesting thing you did hear. Some companies may get upset with this. But there isn't a whole lot of crazys like me who would do such a thing anyhow.
If you were to do this you would want to inform the tuner that the large spill port is plugged. Now not all injectors are built the same, so not every injector will flow 155cc... some may flow a little more and some may flow a little less. This is where large companies flow test injectors and make minor adjustments to the plunger. I will never attempt a modification larger than described in this video. I will leave that to the professionals. Tolerances are very tight on these intervals, and making marginal mistakes could cost you an engine. I should also add that if you try to send these injectors in as cores to a builder after you have modified them, the builder may not release your core charge due to the modifications made.
Do you need to have a custom tune for having 155/30 injectors. My truck is studded and deleted but when idling it puffs out a little black smoke and the injectors are kinda everywhere on my power balance.
Great work on this video!
Nice video! I commented on your last video asking why my injectors were so loud turns out it was my flex plate and torque converter! The guy I bought it from never bolted them together.
Woooow! Yikes! That’s not good, glad you found the problem thou
Love the video like all the others, can't wait to see some race truck content. Also can't wait to hear how these injectors perform.
Been waiting a while like years for a good injector video liked how you plugged spills, ive heard nightmares on guys thinkn they need welding
Welding will distort the injector body, big time no no!
@@LeftLaneDiesels still waiting on someone with balls to make a vid on diy piston bowl cut and delip still in the block lol j/k
can you do the spill port mod on stock nozzles for a milder setup?
Do you have a video of these injectors running ?
ive wanted to modify my own injectors forever! unfortunately only place near me charge $75 bucks apiece to clean and test last time screwed up my last set lasted a week all my spool valves were loose. thought about throwing a modified set in my brothers truck for testing but hes been getting smarter about things like that.
That’s what I wanna put in my 2004 6.0.
Can you buy the plungers to make them 175s
I put Warren diesel 155/30s in my 06 a couple months back and the spill ports were not plugged
I rebuilt my injectors about a year ago. No problems so far. I wish I’d known about the mods you did. The only difference to what I did, I cleaned everything using an ultrasonic cleaner.
I hoped you’d do the top seal, as that’s also the only one I didn’t change, as I couldn’t figure out a way to pull the internal c-clip without damaging everything.
Would those mods do anything on a stick tune till I started doing my upgrades?
Thanks for another awesome video.
I saw you had the ball bearing you pressed in does that come with the kit or did you source them separately if so where did you get them I wanna get the same ones
How have these injectors held up with the brass bearing plugging the spill port?
Where did you get the plugs to plug the spill ports in your injectors? I’ve tried looking but can’t find any anywhere
curious what does putting the ball bearing do - reserve more fuel in the chamber? so that would have to be tuned right? and what are the effects, more power, better fuel effieciency, better atomization?
Did the brass press plugs come with the kit?
@Left Lane Diesel. What are the bearing you are using to block the spill port. Where can I purchase these. Thanks in advance for your help
who does your tunes ?
Good luck with that!!!
Any good tunners for the 6.0 in MI ? Looking to have mine tined
Very good video thanks
do you still have the injectors in the truck? if so how have then been over time? I'm thinking about doing mine for some time now.
If I'm not mistaken, you can make that a 175/30 by added a 2nd shim plate and plugging the spill port. No its the best way, but it is a way that you can do it
youre correct however some would tell you to shy away from adding a second stock shim plate due to sealing issues and a couple other variables, its just better to just cut the plunger .035ish inches to net the same result along with the plugged spill port... or like .035 plung & .050 off ip will net like 190 i believe is what it is
@@iiSpirityV2 Sounds about right, stacking shim plates and make uneven sizes as each plunger should be measured separately, you are also lifting the solenoid up and may create sealing issues on the oil rail or extra stress in the solenoid
@@Peaksideperformance i like to play on the dangerous side tho and its hard to find a machine shop that will create shims at the metering plates so it is a cost effective way that i may be willing to try on the next crap set i get to rebuild
You do not pull the solenoid to remove the spool valve housing assembly ,
Mo powa babeh! 🚂💨👍🏼
Great video
Have 6.0 gearhead tunes ficm tune and 155/stock injectors. Straight piped. Would you recommend using the 64.7 wheel? I tow few times a year.
S363!
64 and above is a little to large m, but if you run a small exhaust wheel and a tight housing, it would prolly be ok and will offer more top end power.
Mostly daily drive it. Been thinking about getting the diy kit for years now.... would I need to change anything to run the s363 turbo. $861 without exhaust housing. Am I able to reuse my current turbos exhaust housing?
You will need to run a S300 turbo kit. Comes with pedestal, up-pipes, drain and feed. It’s entirely different turbo and turbo set up. You will not be able to use your current exhaust housing. Sounds like you should do a little research to understand what it exactly means to put a non vgt turbo on.
Yea I haven't looked into much non vgt turbos. Thanks for the info though
Ive heard occasionally plugging spill ports causes some minor idling issues that can be tuned out but do you write your own tunes or know what parameters they are changing?
Running 6.4 push rods? Please inform me
Would love to get you pix of my truck after having it studded and see what you think happened.
Why are you running the 64 push rods is that with the for the lifters and are you machining The Head and the deck?
Awesome video
Here’s a question for you left lane. What’s the maximum size for a heavy duty tow rig? Thanks again
Comfortably a 190/30 would be the max I would tow if towing frequently and heavy. You would also want supporting mods such as exhaust, turbo, gauges, and a good tow tune.
@@LeftLaneDiesels thanks for the info if everything turns out it looks like I know what my next project is
Run compounds and you can definitely flow enough air for 7mm or 8mm hybrids
@@ai_university I’m currently looking for compound turbos
Quick question, what was Fords point of the spill port anyway if you can just do away with it with a plug and some tuning?
From what I understand these injectors at high pressure create some bleed back. The spill ports give that bleed back a place to go. This helps quite injector noise and increase idle performance.
@@LeftLaneDiesels interesting thanks man and love the videos keep doing what your doing
For a daily driver that I occasionally use to haul my 28ft camper. Would you recommend 155/30 or 175/30 injectors. I have a few other things that need to be first but It’s always good info to have
155/30! No doubt, if you go any larger you will need a full fuel system. 155/30 will put you about 500rwhp which is more than what new trucks are making!
@@LeftLaneDiesels thanks for the info!!
Did you pull the engine without taking the cab off?
Yes
any particular reason you went with 155/30?
It’s a conservative size injector. Can be run with stock fuel system, stock turbo etc. also the modifications are simple when compared to going larger. It’s also safe power long term for the transmission.
So I understand you should have custom tuning with any aftermarket injector you go with but say you have 155/30 injectors that don’t have the blocked spill port should you still need custom tunes or should it be fine at an idle? I guess I should say I have warren premium injectors and I’m not 100% sure if they would block the spill port or if they would do it the “proper way”. I’ve always heard it’s hit or miss with their injectors.
Plugged spill ports or not-anytime you go to bigger injectors you will want custom tuning to utilize the potential of the injector.
With that said 155/30 that don’t have plugged spill ports don’t have idle issues. Custom Tuning will manipulate pulse width to utilize the extra fuel properly and most efficiently.
Custom tuning is by far THE BEST modification you can make to the truck for the price to performance gain.
Hey Left Lane informative content thank you much. I'm still in the process of stage 2ing my 6.0 KC Turbo stage 2 and 175/30, who would you choose for injectors Holders injectors or Pure Power, what's your thoughts. Also what is flow benching injectors? Shout out to you and the channel.
All of the companies you listed are awesome companies that stand behind their product!
Flow benching injectors is a method for accurately determining how many cc’s of fuel the injector flows. When they build the injectors they will flow bench and then balance each injector to flow the proper cc’s. 🤘🤙
@@LeftLaneDiesels Appreciate you big time Left Lane, and now I feel much better lol, I'm still waiting on the Regulated Fuel Return from XDP back ordered until June. Thanks for your insight 👍🏽
How did these end up running? Im thinking about doing this
Run great, have roughly 5k miles on them with no issues
Shoo owner here, installed an engine sent to us by you requested by our customer. Failed, warranty voided. I want to know why it failed, customer refused to send engine in to you.guys to be evaluated, instructed us to reassemble because they are just going to use it untill it dies, which wont be long. Im curious if there is anything we missed. Engine was over heated which is a problem. But the one cylinfer scored up doesnt make sense. Looking for knowledge not free shit. Ill pay for knowledge, understand being busy and if you cant reach out. Thanks. Jake. Owner/operator.
You said “installed engine sent to us by you” and “customer refused to send engine in to you guys”.
Who is “you” in these phrases. I do not sell engines. I make TH-cam videos
What cam did u end up putting in?
I had a stock cam laying around, so I threw that in it.
So when asked for your tune the injector size would be 155/30 with a blocked larger spill port. And that should get you pretty close of not dead on with those diy injectors? A 500$ kit seems pretty temping. I'm going to try it on the step child truck. The one that just gets the junk and always missing parts for the tow rig. Can't hurt and for 500 bucks might be able to.save more than that down the road with say some 195/ stock and add over sized later. It's a very interesting thing you did hear. Some companies may get upset with this. But there isn't a whole lot of crazys like me who would do such a thing anyhow.
If you were to do this you would want to inform the tuner that the large spill port is plugged. Now not all injectors are built the same, so not every injector will flow 155cc... some may flow a little more and some may flow a little less. This is where large companies flow test injectors and make minor adjustments to the plunger.
I will never attempt a modification larger than described in this video. I will leave that to the professionals. Tolerances are very tight on these intervals, and making marginal mistakes could cost you an engine.
I should also add that if you try to send these injectors in as cores to a builder after you have modified them, the builder may not release your core charge due to the modifications made.