Hey Peter. I can see this being a very handy technique when you want to replace older queens or dealing with aggressive hives replacing those queens. Thanks for sharing
Putting a qc in a queen right hive would definitely increase your chances of having 2 queens for awhile . Unless your old queen is marked you have no way of knowing.
Hello Peter, I followed your teaching and guidance regarding the Demaree Method. All is going well. I Demaree'd 6 hives... No swarms, overwhelming amount of bee's and nectar... i had to add another deep to one of the hives, mainly to provide more space for the bee's. Thank you. You a great teacher! Are you or did you used to be a Professor? Many thanks, Dave from WV.
Very cool. I like it. Thank you. Looked like that one colony looked a bit ornery when you opened the boxes. ... Also when you convert the italians into carniolans this way (or saskatraz carniolans), I'm curious how much this would make the newly converted carniolans colony size to be compared to what the size would have been if they'd just been carniolans in the beginning. I suspect it would make the nest a bit bigger, because they are already big and having to keep up with the food output while the italian genetics are being phased out.
Been thinking of doing this for a couple years now. Great way to keep the apairy young. I would not want to find 200 queens each summer yet I would love to renew the colonies in late July with my own cells. Simple and cheap, one can afford a bit of failures. Do you know what the success rate might be? Do you expect it to be the normal 70-90%?
I love this idea. I am curious why is this better than just adding a new mated queen? Do the workers get used to her pheromone through the queen-cup before she emerges or something of that kind?
@@BeekeepingwithTheBeeWhisperer There's gotta be something going-on with pheromones there... perhaps the cup picks-up the general scent of the hive.We may never know. But thanks for a very cool tip.
Local conditions should dictate what you do.... "not after the main flow may be a rather strict interpretation of best options as I have about 75% success after it...but once into a hard dearth it gets harder and harder as drones get kicked out.
Is the newly emerged virgin queen stronger and more agile than the existing queen?... and is that why the virgin will be able to kill the existing queen? Thx
Wouldn't part of the colony swarm? Wouldn't that mean losing a ton of bees? Yes, I may have to look twice, but 95% of the time, I don't think finding the queen to be that difficult.
Hey Peter. I can see this being a very handy technique when you want to replace older queens or dealing with aggressive hives replacing those queens. Thanks for sharing
Great if you have enough hives to justify the work
Putting a qc in a queen right hive would definitely increase your chances of having 2 queens for awhile . Unless your old queen is marked you have no way of knowing.
Super.🙂
In Minnesota , cold, limited winter stores,we call beekeepers with Italians, "repeat customers". :)
That is one way to look at it!
Hello Peter, I followed your teaching and guidance regarding the Demaree Method. All is going well. I Demaree'd 6 hives... No swarms, overwhelming amount of bee's and nectar... i had to add another deep to one of the hives, mainly to provide more space for the bee's. Thank you. You a great teacher! Are you or did you used to be a Professor? Many thanks, Dave from WV.
No I was never a professor but have been teaching beekeeping a while. (also worked in Universities a lot doing research.
You should attend the Hive Life Conference. I like your videos thanks for the share 👍🏻
I would love an invitation!
Very cool. I like it. Thank you.
Looked like that one colony looked a bit ornery when you opened the boxes.
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Also when you convert the italians into carniolans this way (or saskatraz carniolans), I'm curious how much this would make the newly converted carniolans colony size to be compared to what the size would have been if they'd just been carniolans in the beginning. I suspect it would make the nest a bit bigger, because they are already big and having to keep up with the food output while the italian genetics are being phased out.
All the nests are decreasing now anyway so by the time brood rearing ceases in Oct there will be only the new genes expressing.
Thanks for video. Is there any risk the older queen may kill the new queen when she is emerges from the protected cell?
Yes some.
Been thinking of doing this for a couple years now. Great way to keep the apairy young. I would not want to find 200 queens each summer yet I would love to renew the colonies in late July with my own cells. Simple and cheap, one can afford a bit of failures. Do you know what the success rate might be? Do you expect it to be the normal 70-90%?
I would say with practice about 75-90% for the grafts than c80-90% for mating.
Awesome idea? Question, does the virgin kill queen before or after mating flute?
I love this idea. I am curious why is this better than just adding a new mated queen? Do the workers get used to her pheromone through the queen-cup before she emerges or something of that kind?
Bees always accept a queen who emerges in their hive but getting them to accept a mated queen is risky
@@BeekeepingwithTheBeeWhisperer There's gotta be something going-on with pheromones there... perhaps the cup picks-up the general scent of the hive.We may never know. But thanks for a very cool tip.
Theoretically, could replacing the queen be used to delay/prevent swarming? There might be down sides but would be good to know if it’s an option.
It is a useful tool expecially if you do this early in the season.
Fascinating idea,The original queen will have to be marked? Otherwise I wouldn't know if it was successful?
True but the accepted wisdom(?) is that the young virgin queen will be much more maneuverable and kill the old fat queen.
Do you still have a nectar flow? I’ve been told not to try it after the main flow.
Any idea what your acceptance rate is?
Local conditions should dictate what you do.... "not after the main flow may be a rather strict interpretation of best options as I have about 75% success after it...but once into a hard dearth it gets harder and harder as drones get kicked out.
Where do you purchase your queen excluders?
I am a dealer for Betterbee
Any issues with the queens not getting mated, coming back, etc?
Yes that can happen, as can the hive ending up with two queens for sevearl months.
Why do u cut a triangular hole in the top of the metal/bubble wrap inner cover? Thx
So they can be used like an inner cover to feed through, amongst other things
What is your theory for the higher supers having the most honey. I experience the same thing? Thx
In a hive full of bees they fill food from the top down.
What keeps the queen from just swarming and taking half the bees weather
The theory is because the brood nest is now depopulated and there is no pressure for space.
Peter, how late in the year can you do that successfully?
As long that you see drones in your hive I guess...
The problem is that the answer vary for everyone place and climate :/
Yes as long as the weather and availability of drones suits successful mating will be regionally dependant.
Is the newly emerged virgin queen stronger and more agile than the existing queen?... and is that why the virgin will be able to kill the existing queen? Thx
More agile not necassarily stronger
Any idea what % take you have?
I would estimate over 80% as character of the hives changed nicely over the next two months
@@BeekeepingwithTheBeeWhisperer AWESOME THANKS, I HAVE HEARD OF THIS WAY OF DOING IT. BUT WASN'T SURE HOW SUCCESSFUL IT WOULD BE
will they swam
Not usually
But chances are?
Wouldn't part of the colony swarm?
Wouldn't that mean losing a ton of bees?
Yes, I may have to look twice, but 95% of the time, I don't think finding the queen to be that difficult.
Bees don't swarm just because there is an extra queen....no there should be no swarms and the young queen should supercede the older one
@@BeekeepingwithTheBeeWhisperer What happens to the old queen?
@@rajbeekie7124 The new virgin queen usually hunts her down and kills her
What are the chances of the old queen killing the new queen?
@@rajbeekie7124 Skinny BeeMan(Joe Mays) says "the virgin always wins". That's all I know 🤷