Green Arrow is the UNDERDOG of the Justice League

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  • @javontemorant4701
    @javontemorant4701 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +168

    It's crazy of how Stephen Amell could have been a great comic accurate Green Arrow when you see how cool he really is in real life with his humor or hell, when GA did have humor in the Arrowverse crossovers. He's kind of like Henry Cavill of being more like his character in real life than the media.

    • @Kalel2.0
      @Kalel2.0 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +19

      Plus hes stated that he wouldve loved to play a more comic accurate version when the show was still on

  • @Sid3Ball
    @Sid3Ball 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +242

    The fact that every dc movie is about the world ending really leaves street-level characters on the sideline.Except Bat man of course.

    • @space1734
      @space1734 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      Which is stupid. Batman being in the JL will never be not funny for me.

    • @bignoasted2701
      @bignoasted2701 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

      ​@@space1734even if Batman was completely unable to fight completely unintelligent and a horrible detective he still would easily be able to bankroll the Justice League making him highly useful

    • @space1734
      @space1734 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@bignoasted2701 Hey, if he wants to help out Aquaman bankroll the JL then that's fine. Superman can literally go to another planet to collect resources to profit from. Any of the JL members can become billionaires if they wanted.

    • @Y2JFan94
      @Y2JFan94 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Batman is overrated

    • @Hillthugsta
      @Hillthugsta 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      ​@@Y2JFan94Needs to be said more often and out loud.

  • @DarthDread-oh2ne
    @DarthDread-oh2ne 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +340

    It’s criminal, how live action adaptations always undermine Oliver/Dinah relationship.

    • @Paradox-es3bl
      @Paradox-es3bl 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      To be fair... it wasn't even Dinah in the show. He was with Laurel, cheated on her with her sister Sara (who was actually honestly probably the best person for him except maybe his actual wife, Nyssa)... and honestly kind of thankfully never got with Dinah by the time she was finally introduced. Would've been kind of weird after being with the other TWO Canaries AND being in a committed relationship with Felicity while STILL married to Nyssa, if he hooked up with Dinah.
      Don't get me wrong, I think Felicity is at her best when she's gushing over every hot guy, like Oliver and Ray... and not actually with them... and her and Oliver together mostly kinda suck? Though tbh WAYYYY better than Barry X Iris in The Flash. He had the most chemistry with Caitlin, imo, and Patty after that. And NONE with Iris. Plus, they were effectively brother and sister for like 12+ years? Eugh.
      But anyway, Oliver getting with Dinah after all that? Hard pass. Wouldn't have minded if he didn't get with the other 2 Canaries first, and Felicity and Nyssa... and Dinah was introduced by like s2... but the way they did things? Nah. It's good he didn't end up with Dinah. Or Laurel. And it was good for Sara to not end up with Oliver. She was good for him but he wasn't good for her. I'm kinda glad she ended up with Eva.

    • @hamizanyunos1502
      @hamizanyunos1502 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      That is the second most stable romantic relationship in comics other than Lois Lane and Superman. The Arrowverse never bothered to have Dinah Drake on the screen

    • @space1734
      @space1734 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@hamizanyunos1502 Aquaman x Mera and Arrow x BC are the best relationships in DC

    • @Superlad9494
      @Superlad9494 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@Paradox-es3bl Laurel is the younger Dinah's middle name. Dinah's named after her mother, the original Black Canary. The Arrowverse had the younger Laurel go by her middle name so as to avoid confusion to the new viewers with her mother.
      Dinah Drake was the first Black Canary in WW2 and is a member of the JSA, she marries Larry Lance making her Dinah Lance and has Dinah Laurel...at some point Larry passes when Dinah Laurel is young and so the young Laurel is raised by the JSA and later alongside the original 7 helps found the League so that Wonder Woman isn't the only gal on the team at their debut (to Wonder Woman's annoyance.) and JSA history is mirrored. It is Laurel who loves and marries Ollie, not her mom, although Laurel initially believed she was her mom at one point because shenanigans...caused by Flashpoint and initially Silver/Bronze-Age sci-fi weirdness that has now been undone. Dinah Lance, the mother in the Post-Crisis timeline and modified Post-Flashpoint one passed on due to a terminal illness that Supergirl's on the research team for.

    • @tycemo707YT
      @tycemo707YT 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Laurel is "Dinah" Laurel Lance. The Dinah introduced later in the show as canary was probably some cop out just to make Canary's name actually Dinah. Imo they should've kept Laurel past S4, her and Oliver were toxic but they should've been endgame​@@Paradox-es3bl

  • @joelpolanco6776
    @joelpolanco6776 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +229

    A Green Arrow & Black Canary show in the style of Mr & Ms. Smith in the DCU, maybe for the second chapter, would be peak

    • @shredd-red9142
      @shredd-red9142 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +26

      I think a Green Arrow show would be good like the Superman and Lois show. With Green Arrow and Black Canary while having Roy Harper dealing with his drug addictions and Mia with her prostitution. Honestly, Oliver Queen works better as a family man who fights for the little guy.

    • @Paradox-es3bl
      @Paradox-es3bl 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

      I don't think they can have Mia doing that in show for teens/young adults. Also, they kinda already did that Roy stuff with Mirakuru in Arrow. I don't think they should do another live-action that kinda just does what they already did. Either do an animated series which could be awesome, or do something drastically different. Hell, maybe they could basically adapt the Grayson undercover series with Spiral or whatever but have it be Green Arrow and Black Canary.
      Though that kinda feels like Hunter and Bobbi from Agents Of Shield, at least they'd be copying Marvel instead of themselves, so a lot of people wouldn't recognize that lol. Plus, they'd technically be adapting their own story...

    • @mayotango1317
      @mayotango1317 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Of course, many will like to see an old man in his forties seduce a woman in her twenties.

  • @joeker5208
    @joeker5208 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +121

    Never gonna forget how the DCAMU gave us no Oliver Queen, but five minutes of Speedy. No offense to Roy, but like what the f*ck

    • @hamizanyunos1502
      @hamizanyunos1502 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah somehow they let Roy take over but no Oliver?

    • @joeker5208
      @joeker5208 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +16

      @@hamizanyunos1502 this was the same universe that gave us two different Kid Flashes, who don’t interact with each other or Barry, and one of them doesn’t even have a voice actor

    • @hamizanyunos1502
      @hamizanyunos1502 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@joeker5208 I know the whole DCAMU was not very good in my opinion I liked Death of Superman and the Wonder Woman movie but everything else felt weird and underdeveloped sometimes relying too much on shock-value violence like in Apokolips War

    • @bignoasted2701
      @bignoasted2701 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Honestly I'm fine with giving Roy some spotlight actually on his own 80% of his story's are so dwafed by green arrows shadow wither it's drugs clones or ghosts half the time Roy might not even get a mention

    • @joeker5208
      @joeker5208 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@bignoasted2701 that’s not exactly the point I’m making. I think it’s fine if the character got to do something on his own. But this isn’t say a, “Teen Titans Situation”, where that show limited down its universe to solely focus on the Titans’ lore. This was an expansive animated DC universe, and literally the only reference to one of the bigger and most beloved DC characters is a five minute cameo to his sidekick. It wasn’t exactly a respectful display of the Green Arrow Mythos or Roy Harper

  • @gimmeyourrights8292
    @gimmeyourrights8292 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +61

    The whole appeal of Green Arrow is that he represents that anyone can be a hero. He's similar to Batman in origin but he's different in the way he goes about it, he's more of a jokester but he is more than capable of handling himself. He's more outspoken especially when it comes to politics but he's strong willed and always possesses the capacity to help people. His relationship with Dinah works too because they both share the same morals and values.

    • @Giannis-s9b
      @Giannis-s9b 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not in live action Green arrow in live action’s is a menace

  • @SanSan-jp1fr
    @SanSan-jp1fr 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +90

    the fact that green arrow in comics has beaten people like deathstroke and even red hood but people say that those characters were nerfed shows how underutilized he is

  • @JkidGetrekt
    @JkidGetrekt 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +55

    It’s crazy how this man doesn’t miss. Like you literally have said everything I’ve felt about DC in the past years

    • @vincentbillings6907
      @vincentbillings6907 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      Seriously. I share almost every opinion with his videos.

    • @fabooshka
      @fabooshka 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      bro doesn't miss just like GREEN ARROW , he 🔛🔝

  • @UserName70-ee4fx
    @UserName70-ee4fx 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +18

    Green Arrow is that guy you don't want at a distance, kinda like how Bullseye fights in Netflix Daredevil. It would be cool to see a villain get up close and personal, but Oliver's skill and willpower give him the win.

    • @MrEndstage
      @MrEndstage 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Funny because continually he's a master of hand to hand fighter, also has a mastery of sword fighting too just the comics always forgets

  • @xanderg.1070
    @xanderg.1070 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +38

    It’s weird how the DCAMU didn’t have Green Arrow but had Speedy in that universe, so I kinda wonder if Oliver truly is in that universe or not

    • @xanderg.1070
      @xanderg.1070 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

      @@ArcTrooper269 that’s stupid and insulting to both Oliver, Roy, Barry, and Wally.

    • @Superlad9494
      @Superlad9494 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@ArcTrooper269 also Barry being KF? With the Grayson Lineup? Really? What kinda sense does that make? Oh yeah...sense and Nu52 don't mesh.

  • @starwarsandmarvel5349
    @starwarsandmarvel5349 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +171

    I absolutely love him in the comics, but I kinda dislike him in arrow because he’s trying so hard to be Batman.

    • @portahstaggers123
      @portahstaggers123 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      THANK U!!! he became a walmart batman

    • @samuraibear5102
      @samuraibear5102 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      ​@@ArcTrooper269why are so focused on that plus this is when dc was hard on edge they would of had batman kill someone at some point

    • @Superlad9494
      @Superlad9494 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@portahstaggers123 he originally kinda was, except he operated in daylight.

    • @theblessedone.6251
      @theblessedone.6251 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Superlad9494 That's no longer cannon.

    • @Superlad9494
      @Superlad9494 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@theblessedone.6251 everything is canon now, it became canon when Wonder Woman told BWL to "talk to the cosmic hand", in his early career he was daylight Batman and Speedy was the same for Robin. This includes when they were time bounced back to the golden age to join the Seven Soldiers of Victory and returned back to their then- real time of Silver Age after Nebula Man's defeat...Ollie didn't really start to become his own more "Modern Robin Hood" persona (despite the uniforms) until the bronze age stories took hold...Roy even still has arguments with Nightwing about this today...it is the main reason they don't get along. The denizens of the DCU despite all the good Ollie and Roy have done in Roy's own words during Titans Rebirth "still see Green Arrow as a wannabe Batman and Speedy as a third-rate Robin." Roy wants Green Arrow and Speedy to be seen as equal to Batman and Robin, but they're always stuck as substitutes in "the shadow of the Bat" no matter what they do.

  • @Nova-sama420
    @Nova-sama420 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    4:03 Justice League/Unlimited has the best portrayal of ****pick any DC character***** ever put to screen.

  • @Dragon_Moth
    @Dragon_Moth 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +535

    Arrow felt so pathetic, the writers clearly wanted to do a Batman show and just grabbed the guy who more closely resembled him and twisted him so he resembled more Batman at the cost of losing every important trait of his.

    • @treysavage4570
      @treysavage4570 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

      I kinda disagree cause in the comics Green Arrow is literally Batman without all the martial arts training and without the crazy tech. Green Arrow is a billionaire playboy that uses his riches to fight crime in a goofy costume. I think Green Arrow also lost his parents in some horrific accident now who does that sound like

    • @Dragon_Moth
      @Dragon_Moth 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +58

      @@treysavage4570 What about his leftist philosophies? Did you know Ollie has a son? Or the real Arrowfamily? Or the history of Queen Industries?

    • @Dragon_Moth
      @Dragon_Moth 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      @@ArcTrooper269 Fair enough. Tell me a single Green Arrow thing they did adapt.

    • @Dragon_Moth
      @Dragon_Moth 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +14

      @@ArcTrooper269 Underdog what? He is considered one of Earth's biggest heroes, he and the Flash act like this universe's Superman and Batman. Also, when you think Slade do you really think Green Arrow? Also also, quippy? Ollie is super moody and only quips with friends in the show

    • @jayanmazumder359
      @jayanmazumder359 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +13

      @@Dragon_Mothgive it a watch and yes although the show is called arrow, just watching it as a normal crime thriller, without focusing too much on the source material, sure it’s def more batman inspired, but it embraces it and does it pretty damn well.

  • @unluckydreamer
    @unluckydreamer 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +31

    I hope we could see an arrow and canary movie in the dcu. With Gunn prioritizing genre i think an action rom com with the two would fit perfectly

    • @ZatannaFan94
      @ZatannaFan94 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Pleaseee for real the best couple

    • @theblessedone.6251
      @theblessedone.6251 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      And with green lantern/Hal Jordan included since the three of them are really close friends.

  • @T3aseW1thease
    @T3aseW1thease 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +43

    Deathstroke is sort of like Doctor Doom he fights the fantastic four but he also has beef with the avengers, iron man, black panther etc so slade shouldnt really be restricted to being a nightwing/teen titans villain plus he's an assassin so it makes sense that he has beef with everybody

    • @redherringoffshoot2341
      @redherringoffshoot2341 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      he originated from and is most known for the Teen Titans

    • @lilblock3564
      @lilblock3564 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      ​@@redherringoffshoot2341 So?

    • @notliked42210
      @notliked42210 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

      As batspecter once said:".......deathstroke is one of the few villains with a heroes gallery"

    • @aldusty2734
      @aldusty2734 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@notliked42210a fellow person of culture I see

  • @DaniG._.German
    @DaniG._.German 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    I'm currently rewatching JLU. Best DCAU relationship ever... of all time.

    • @Paradox-es3bl
      @Paradox-es3bl 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      I mean... WonderBat didn't really happen... but I ship it harder than anything else.

    • @DaniG._.German
      @DaniG._.German 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@Paradox-es3bl WonderBat should've happened. JLU Wayne was happier than Beyond Wayne.

  • @bignoob24
    @bignoob24 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +67

    I honestly really like Arrow, but I think we can all agree that the show was trying to hard to be dark.

    • @theblessedone.6251
      @theblessedone.6251 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Besides season 5 episode 17. They did a pretty good job with that one. When he skinned the guy alive in the flashback and then proceeded even after getting the answers he was looking for and said the rest was just me practicing. He even had anatoli scared. If you can get a Russian gangster shook you're one dark mf. That episode gave me chills. Other than that yea they did try too hard 💯

    • @Giannis-s9b
      @Giannis-s9b 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tbh arrow the show really upgraded Green Arrow in a way that DC would never and live action arrow is the best version of arrow

    • @blacklivesorblackvotes2985
      @blacklivesorblackvotes2985 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Giannis-s9b nope, live action isn’t even green arrow. It’s Batman in arrow clothing. Lol “elevated green arrow” by making him Discount Batman. Y’all really don’t know what elevating means.

  • @MasterofRoku
    @MasterofRoku 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    Surprised there's no mention of Green Arrow and his rivalry with Bats in the Brave and the Bold cartoon.

  • @reidcunningham5906
    @reidcunningham5906 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    People needs to know that he isn't just Batman with a bow

  • @FriendlyBatDoom
    @FriendlyBatDoom 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

    The problem is that DC is obsessed with Batman so when they couldn't get Batman they went with the B team in Green Arrow. Ra's Al Ghul wouldn't be interested in Green Arrow being his heir as he's not a genius. There's a reason why Batman and Ra's have so much in common since they are both legendary polymathic intellectuals first and legendary grandmaster-level one-man army warriors second. Green Arrow though not an idiot isn't even close to Batman in terms of intelligence. Batman is an intellectual prodigy amongst a class of William James Sidis-level prodigies while Green Arrow. Batman like Ra’s wants to rid the world of crime, corruption, and pollution but Ra's Al Ghul wants to cull 90 percent of the human population to do it. Though Green Arrow is a great warrior he's not on Batman or Black Canary's level. What Arrow CW did to Mr Terrific should be brought up on charges. If he was written correctly Oliver would be taking orders from him. Green Arrow is a great warrior, a good commander, a good teammate, and most of all a good well-intentioned grounded man that's why he works. Not as another watered-down Batman clone with watered-down Batman’s traits and villains. He works with his own traits and villains elevated to be grounded city-shaking threats. What Green Arrow should be fighting is the Ninth Circle with Count Vertigo one of the world's greatest swordsmen as the leader. Vertigo is using the Ninth Circle slave and drug empire to build up enough to overthrow his niece as monarch of Vlatava. To do so he sees a great opportunity to sell slaves and drugs in Seattle or Star City where he runs afoul of Green Arrow. Lastly, the treatment of Black Canary was awful. You could clearly see they did that for the teenage shippers to push Olicity drama to the forefront even in front of the plot.

  • @silvertongue.242_99
    @silvertongue.242_99 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Yes I love green arrow he is super underrated and was so good in jla. It showcases his character interaction with others, and his importance with the league. Black canry and green arrow is some of my favorite couples in comics. Jla and young just did black canry very well

  • @slackstarfish8133
    @slackstarfish8133 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +10

    Green arrow is one of the most charismatic superheros in comics, it’s surprising how they haven’t thought to use him in live action. A green arrow movie could actually be amazing

  • @callmev3531
    @callmev3531 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    If anything, James Gunn’s era of the DC Cinematic Universe seems like the perfect place to put a more comic accurate Green Arrow. It’s likely that if they do end up adapting Oliver, they could end up playing into the fact that he isn’t taken seriously by a number of people (both in universe and outside it) because of his lack of powers despite being “super-abled” (or rather, what comic fans call “peak human) and choice of gimmick and equipment, but if done properly, it could be used to contrast the characters strengths as someone that represents the “little guy” and is focused more on doing as much good as he can despite his limitations instead of grand, epic acts of heroism typically associated with higher level superheroes.

  • @TevyaSmolka
    @TevyaSmolka 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    green arrow is really awesome and super underrated in my opinion.

  • @BabyThor420
    @BabyThor420 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Oliver Queen is my favorite DC character. It feels like Arrow was going to make a Batman show but couldn't get the rights. Amell did an amazing job with the material he was given, but I wish the writers actually did him and the role Justice.

  • @Cashmoneez
    @Cashmoneez 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Can't forget brave and the bold GA a more arrogant take and kinda the butt of the joke but also really likable

  • @TheoBrownMusic7
    @TheoBrownMusic7 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I feel like Smallville got the correct tone and vibe for Green Arrow, in live action

  • @TheUnseenPath
    @TheUnseenPath 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    They called him ROZ Al Ghoul (ty for pronouncing it correctly) but the reason is because they wanted a Batman show but instead used GA because they both are billionaires with gadgets even though GA is more like Tony Stark (MCU) with a bow and arrow (in terms of personality). If they wanted a bat name character, dark and brooding, Red Hood...right there. He has next to nothing in terms of his own media independent of Batman.

    • @Superlad9494
      @Superlad9494 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Roz is actually the correct pronunciation, it's Aramiac for "Imp's Head" like how Damian's Aramiac name is literally Batson (as in Billy), but he spells it Ibn Al'Xushfach. The Timmverse had Talia of all people pronounce it wrong.
      Raysh is the incorrect form.

  • @GreenArrowHunter
    @GreenArrowHunter 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    A Green Arrow movie should an adaption of year one, in my humble opinión.

    • @GreenArrowHunter
      @GreenArrowHunter 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@ArcTrooper269 Indeed.

  • @TheUnseenPath
    @TheUnseenPath 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    GL thinks the JL doesn't protect the little guy yet isn't that what saving the world is, saving all the little guys?

    • @TeamReArise
      @TeamReArise 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      That’s not the point he made in JLU, GA didn’t want to be part of the JL because he didn’t feel like was needed with so many heroes that have superpowers , he felt pretty useless and believed he was mostly going to be sidelined ( which does happen as a lot of the heroes are sidelined in the watch tower .)
      GA believed his place was down on earth handling the thieves and robbers while the JL delt with God level threats .

    • @punbasedname9032
      @punbasedname9032 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      I think it's supposed to be that they do little for everyday people's day to day struggles (from his perspective). The issue that basically created his modern personality had him dragging Green Lantern into taking down a slum landlord

  • @risuenor3652
    @risuenor3652 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Man this guy deserves a tv show

  • @Cliffjumper-k1w
    @Cliffjumper-k1w 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    3:29 to me, this is like having Tom Holland and Zendaya in your movie, but then you kill Zendaya and replace her with a twin that looks exactly like her.

  • @blaxpoitation8528
    @blaxpoitation8528 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    One of the many reasons, I don't rock with DC much anymore, is their insistence on gassing up Batman, usually to the detriment and ridicule of others. GA is a dope character, but he gets little shine because he's relegated to a Batman knockoff. He deserves more respect.
    Also, thank you for mentioning Mr Terrific. He's such a ridiculously underused character. And the one on Arrow was trash. Hopefully, Gunn does him justice.

  • @renardofranklin608
    @renardofranklin608 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +8

    I feel like it's the same with Hawkeye in his place in the avengers he always feels like he has to prove himself because everyone has powers and he doesn't. which is why when he first joined he was kind of a jerk to everyone. Nothing captures this more than Avengers EMH which is my favorite version of the character outside of comics I also love his dynamic with hulk and black panther which is why I never liked the MCU version.

  • @KiDIkarus-i9k
    @KiDIkarus-i9k 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    BB is the under dog of the titans, it doesn’t feel right without HIM and he can’t seem to do well without THEM (coming from a massive Gar fan.. it’s a sad case but it’s true)

    • @KiDIkarus-i9k
      @KiDIkarus-i9k 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Our green brethren are slept on historically

  • @montenegroafro4454
    @montenegroafro4454 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Arrow was pretty good for the first 2 seasons except for parts where the writers tried so damn hard to make him sound like Christian Bale’s Batman.
    Also yea 3:19 Black Canary was disgustingly miscast and they should’ve let the blonde chick who played White Canary just be Black Canary like wtf?!!

  • @daimonatkins3046
    @daimonatkins3046 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Green Arrow would’ve made for a cool extension to the Batman Arkham franchise and I’m genuinely surprised considering how much DC tried to make Green Arrow like Batman that they didn’t make a Arkham game with some bow mechanics and have Oliver Queen’s rogues as the villains.

  • @draiocht1979
    @draiocht1979 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    4:34 completely off topic but I love that in almost every verse that Clark and Bruce look alike

  • @evanwohler8231
    @evanwohler8231 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He’d deserve to have his own movie or animated series about a underdog facing high level villains and difficult obstacles that requires more than his arrows to survive and shows a underdog can make difference even if he’s alone or not

  • @ewok_soup
    @ewok_soup 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    One of the biggest missed opportunities of the dceu was that Charlie hunnam wanted to play green arrow and WB ignored him. And now by the time the dcu introduces him hunnam would have aged out of the character. And that was a perfect casting.

    • @harrambou9468
      @harrambou9468 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      WHAT? 😮

    • @SecretMagician
      @SecretMagician 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Technically, if they're willing to have an older version of the character, considering that Hal Jordan is in his mid-50s, apparently in the DCU, Charlie still could be a good Green Arrow.

    • @ewok_soup
      @ewok_soup 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@SecretMagician yeah I guess, I hope not because it’s not the same having an older Hal Jordan when you can use Stewart or Rayner than having an older green arrow and having to use Roy Harper as your main one

  • @Thejrguy
    @Thejrguy 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Bro, I swear CW wanted to make a Batman show but they were told no so they were like OK BET and just made green arrow Batman

    • @harrambou9468
      @harrambou9468 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      To be fair, that’s more Seasons 2 and 3

  • @ShinyGolduck5
    @ShinyGolduck5 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

    Smallville Green Arrow was the best LAGA adaptation ever

  • @commonsense5199
    @commonsense5199 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    What is your opinion on Green Arrow from Smallville? That version of Green Arrow was originally meant to have a spin off that lead to the formation of CW’s Arrow.
    2:37 Silencer too. Silencer in the comics have a connection to Talia al Ghul and the League of shadow. Silencer was like Talia’s Dick Grayson but rightfully doesn’t want to be an assassin anymore.
    As much as I appreciate Silencer appears in adaptation. The CW version of Silencer is weird. They established This version is a Meta Human but she need this tech device to use her powers. Why? In the comic Silencer can say shhh and Silent zone without any device.
    Arrow didn’t do Silencer, dirty I do like her fight with Black Canary. But it is still weird.
    I should mention Huntress was in Arrow too. And Huntress is also connected to Batman family.
    2:58 Brother Blood and Damian Darhk are Teen Titans and Titans Villains.
    3:13 Onomatopoeia was in Superman and Lois. You didn’t notice that?
    Vertigo was in Arrow, but as Drug Dealer than a count. Also there two of them. Cecil Adams and Werner Zytle
    So far in my mind of original green Malcom Merlyn and Cupid are the only Green Arrow Villains Along with Vertigo. I believe there is more.
    But if it make you Feel better there is a misconception that Clock King is a Batman Villain. Turns out, Clock King was in fact a Green Arrow Villain in the comics in 1960.
    4:00 I am jealous that James Gunn is writing The Terrfics. I am a writer and want to make an animated write of the Terrfics. But I’m the final horse finish the race.
    Wish I can write Wonder Woman animated series so I can elevate Wonder Woman’s Rogue Gallery. Also giving Donna, Cassie and possibly Yara more respect.
    7:06 this maybe point but I want to say it Really annoying that Injustice Jay Nakumara knows about the Death of Green Arrow. Seriously all that happened in the fortress of solitude but somehow Jay Nakumara knows. This add of Jay Nakumara being a Gary Stu and Tom Taylor being a Narcissist and messing up The Injustice Timeline.
    8:25 Only Speedy(Roy Harper) appears DC AMU. *Only Him!!!* and he only appears in a flashback and Cameo.
    We need a new team that excludes Batman.
    Maybe Sideways and Red Canary can start a new team. Not titans not outsiders and not Young Justice. Something new and entirely original.
    9:49 That’s true. Even George Lopez likes Ted Kord Blue Beetle more than Batman.
    Batman is just overrated.

  • @sahilhossain8204
    @sahilhossain8204 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Lore of Green Arrow is the UNDERDOG of the Justice League momentum 100

  • @JarvisBaileyVA
    @JarvisBaileyVA 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The Green Arrow is so interesting and while I'm glad that he gained popularity from the Arrow show, it didn't do him enough justice as much as it did make him a diet Batman who even fought most of his villains like wtf. He's more of a Nightwing than Batman 10 times out of 10.

  • @imafolklorestan
    @imafolklorestan 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Talking about wasted potential... Vixen needs more love 🧡

  • @Paradox-es3bl
    @Paradox-es3bl 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I honestly don't remember Talia at all in Arrow but Nyssa is my favorite character probably in the entire Arrowverse. And I love how she's always like, "You're my husband, Oliver. Of course I'll help you." Like, I think she's more or less how Talia is supposed to be... but Talia is a bit more loyal to Ra's and less trustworthy. Nyssa is the best. And she even trains Oliver and Felicity's kids in the future? "Aunt Nyssa" or whatever? Literally the only Flash Forward scenes I didn't skip because I was SO SICK of all the flashbacks when they started doing flash forwards I just noped past them... but the like 2 Nyssa scenes were great, still.
    Deathstroke was also pretty good in the show. And honestly, I liked everything with Sara Lance. I never really cared much about Black Canary but Laurel was somehow STILL disappointing like 98% of the time... but Sara was just always good, imo. Main reason I kept watching Legends. Although Matt Ryan's Constantine is also perfect, imo. Then again, also not really a fan of Constantine so... maybe that's a sacrilegious statement to actual fans? Idk.

  • @Vucero
    @Vucero 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    That’s the best way to describe it, they tried to make the arrow into the Batman.

  • @LoneWolf-gz9mr
    @LoneWolf-gz9mr 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The "newer" dc are probably worried about audiences confusing the "green arrow" and the "hawkeye" characters up.

  • @JBirdInfo
    @JBirdInfo 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Can u make a shazam video, he is also underestimated

  • @roguerex292
    @roguerex292 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Lmfao in the animated series every time they start talking shit about black canary fighting immediately in the next frame they do flying. It’s so funny to me

  • @seancarroll136
    @seancarroll136 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I bet Warner Animation Group will sideline the SHIT out of Green Arrow in any of their next quote unquote “animated” “movies” when they clearly see Batman as their coping mechanism to show their bias!

  • @justluka7590
    @justluka7590 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Oliver needs his own AAA game

  • @BP-dn9nv
    @BP-dn9nv 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I think a Green Arrow video game would be pretty cool.

    • @GokuBlackRose978
      @GokuBlackRose978 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      People are gonna make so many “stealth archer” memes, the Bethesda curse is real dawg

  • @dannysoul0
    @dannysoul0 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    We need a green arrow game

  • @daryltor7608
    @daryltor7608 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Justice for my boy Ollie ✊

  • @samflood5631
    @samflood5631 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Seeing how both Harley Quinn and Kite Man Hell Yeah are using villains and he-toes that most people never heard of or even had any adaptations like Kite Man, Golden Glider, Noonans, Queen of Fables, Spoiler, Baby Doll, Six Pack and even Snow Flame. I wonder if both shows will use Merlyn, Cheshire, Count Vertigo, Orphan, Zachary Zatara, the Mia Dearden Speedy, Red Arrow who is Oliver Queen’s half sister in the Prime Earth continuity, Clue Master, Electrocutioner and a few other d list super heroes and super villains.

  • @mayotango1317
    @mayotango1317 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    The big problem is that Oliver is the Brian Griffin of DC.

    • @mayotango1317
      @mayotango1317 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ArcTrooper269 ¿Has leído sus cómics? Oliver es muy sermoneador e santurron, muy hippie de izquierda.

    • @mayotango1317
      @mayotango1317 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ArcTrooper269 Mejor mira X-Men 97 por una serie animada para machos, y deja de defender Omniverse; ya es un chiste meme patético.

    • @mayotango1317
      @mayotango1317 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ArcTrooper269
      th-cam.com/video/03C3zAL6EmA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Q8o-0cxruhsw-awS

    • @mayotango1317
      @mayotango1317 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ArcTrooper269
      th-cam.com/video/03C3zAL6EmA/w-d-xo.htmlsi=Q8o-0cxruhsw-awS

    • @mayotango1317
      @mayotango1317 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ArcTrooper269 La masacre de Genosha. Dudo que tu Omniverse tenga algo parecido sin que lo arruinen con un chiste.

  • @ezekielkennedy_
    @ezekielkennedy_ 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I loved batman unlimited growing up

  • @GREENARROW-d4n
    @GREENARROW-d4n 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I agree With you on everything, i really like how you said that green arrow Is for the Little guys, that Is prolly the best part of the Character

  • @chrisblanc663
    @chrisblanc663 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I partially grew my handlebar because of green arrow. (Tried the whole van dyke, but my blond chin hairs weren’t thick enough to pull it off). My other inspiration is Alex Armstrong.

  • @thegloveofficial3838
    @thegloveofficial3838 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    I'm praying green arrow in the movies is like JL Oliver🙏🙏 and they better do Mr terrific right the show tried to RUIN mr terrific 😂😂They literally made him gay for no reason he has never been that before, made him no seem like a capable fighter, and didn't make him too smart even tho he is a genius

  • @Blue-Jaye
    @Blue-Jaye 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Just a friendly reminder that green arrow once shot an undead aquaman, the king of Atlantis, in the head on a kraken with raging winds and brutal waves. Bro is basically him

  • @TheUnseenPath
    @TheUnseenPath 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I mean Batman wants to stand for the little guy as well. GA just likes to tell people about itS

  • @revan6092
    @revan6092 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    dc just downplays other more interesting characters just to d-ride Batman lol it’s pathetic

  • @journeymanX
    @journeymanX 9 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    What if green arrow ended up in the world of one punch man? Imagine his hero ranking? Think he'd hang around with saitama

  • @soldier6971
    @soldier6971 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    They better put him in the DCU

  • @Jay-ob9np
    @Jay-ob9np 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    I strongly agree with this opinion

  • @thatonkgau5221
    @thatonkgau5221 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    While Arrow isn't the best Green arrow adaptation it is a pretty good one. Credit where credit is due It did give the character more of a spotlight in DC live action. It also introduced new characters into DC lore John Diggle and felicity smoke who were canonized in the comics. It made him more popular and it got me into Green Arrow mythology and comics. The show made me a devoted fan. When James Gunn reboots the DC universe and brings Green arrow into it, i hope he gives the character his own solo movie or series. They could even make both a tv show and a movie and incorporate both elements from the comics and arrow tv series.

    • @Zaire_39
      @Zaire_39 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Felicity Smoak being canonised is not a good thing😭

    • @harrambou9468
      @harrambou9468 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@Zaire_39 hate to say it but if it’s agree or disagree, I say agree.

  • @mdpeterson27
    @mdpeterson27 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Great post.
    It’s funny cause after the success of Batman and Robin. Green Arrow was created as a Batman copy to make money.
    I wonder if Arrow would have worked using his later characterization.

  • @mareleivanov
    @mareleivanov 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    He's basically Spider-Man with money, as far as character arcs go. 😅

  • @TheLOD2099
    @TheLOD2099 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    It’s called show business and it’s not created for altruistic purposes. In DC it’s all about the Trinity, especially Bat Fam. I largely blame Batman marks because that’s all anyone wants to see. I’m 56 years old, been reading and collecting since I was a kid in the 70’s. There’s great character and other stories to be told but as long as Batman marks exist, movie studios will produce Batman stories for the General audience. They even tried to make DCU Superman broody and dark, similar to Batman.

  • @TheUnseenPath
    @TheUnseenPath 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Hawkman is underused as well.

    • @thatonkgau5221
      @thatonkgau5221 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      And he's also made disrespected in DC comics

  • @PeaceKeeper-md2tr
    @PeaceKeeper-md2tr 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    The underdog of The Justice League is Arthur Curry/Aquaman

  • @KonEl17
    @KonEl17 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Isnt Green Arrow in JL Action?

    • @MEnterprises01
      @MEnterprises01  8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Yeah forgot to mention that 🗿

    • @KonEl17
      @KonEl17 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@MEnterprises01 bro indont think I've seen a bad vid yet from you, I think your outlook is pretty spot on. Can't wait to see more vids and your takes on DC.

  • @Giannis-s9b
    @Giannis-s9b 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    The arrow shows was a great show out of any live action series from DC I love it

  • @legotimefuntime5438
    @legotimefuntime5438 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Arrow wasn’t a true adaptation of Green Arrow. When I think of Green Arrow, I think of the DCAU. Hopefully somewhere down the line, the Gunverse will do G.A. and Black Canary justice.

    • @legotimefuntime5438
      @legotimefuntime5438 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ArcTrooper269 I don’t know what that is, but I’ll take your word for it.

    • @harrambou9468
      @harrambou9468 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Yeah well as I said to some others…
      The forced Batman similarities are really more Seasons 2 and 3 anyway

  • @DrMauroFrenchman
    @DrMauroFrenchman 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Excelent analysis!!

  • @ModRockfan1992
    @ModRockfan1992 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    My top street-level heroes are
    1. Batman
    2. Spider-Man
    3. Captain America
    4. Green Arrow
    5. Black Widow
    6. Daredevil
    7. Hawkeye
    8. Nightwing
    9. Robin
    10. Batgirl

  • @jayanmazumder359
    @jayanmazumder359 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +22

    Sure maybe the CW show ain’t the most accurate representation of Green Arrow but it is a complete fallacy to be calling it a bad show. Hell, the CW portrayal of Arrow was better than any live action Batman. To those hating on Arrow, give it a watch.

    • @TheUnseenPath
      @TheUnseenPath 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

      No way the live action Batman's were way better this was Arrow-Bat for CW and I watched the show but it became a chore later on with the flashbacks and his son and connor hawk and all of them.

    • @masido443
      @masido443 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      ​@@ArcTrooper269nah, you're wilding for that. Armored was great and did a good job with it's premise of teenage Iron Man. Arrow just made GA Batman for poor.

    • @ronyventura9301
      @ronyventura9301 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      All i got to say is 3:24 🤣🤣

    • @acrsclspdrcls1365
      @acrsclspdrcls1365 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nah you tripping, Arrow was mid at beast and dolphin r*pe at worst

    • @jayanmazumder359
      @jayanmazumder359 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ronyventura9301 I mean I agree with that part, they handled Oliver’s romance in that show pretty poorly, but again they embrace the fact they are making him exactly like Batman, and in most instances, surpass any other live action portrayal

  • @briandaleske5139
    @briandaleske5139 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    4 ACTORS I ENVISION PLAYING (OLIVER QUEEN) AKA GREEN-ARROW IN THE (DC U.) MOVIES:
    The first I envision, is English actor WILLIAM MOSELEY, he’s currently at age:37, and his height is 5’10” (1.78m) tall.
    The 2nd. I envision, is actor star JEREMY SUMPTER, he’s 35years old now, and his height is 6’(1.83m) tall.
    The 3rd. I envision, is actor star MAX THIERIOT, he’s 36years old now, and his height is 5’11” (1.80m) tall.
    The 4th. I envision, is actor star MARK L. YOUNG, he’s currently at age:36, and his height is 5’11” (1.80m) tall.

  • @nightfaro
    @nightfaro 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I love how you didn’t at all mention his appearance in the dark knight returns comic or even movie. But eh

  • @pipes3952
    @pipes3952 7 หลายเดือนก่อน

    How awful that sound Black Canary betrayed memory of her husband and leave happily ever after with his version from another universe, and all of this because in god damm sequile we need Green Arrow and Joker no matter of logic, morality and common sense.

  • @44excalibur
    @44excalibur 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If Hollywood would just stop trying to always make Green Arrow into a poor-man's Batman, he'd be great.

  • @AdamYJ
    @AdamYJ 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Hey, if you think Ollie Queen gets tge shaft, his son Connor Hawke has it even worse.

  • @samuelwanzio4703
    @samuelwanzio4703 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    He’s cool and all but I don’t like the idea of having him being a founding member of the justice league it just looks weird

  • @moonstar247
    @moonstar247 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Finally I was saying this for years Arrow was cute but the show was ridiculous!! And it pissed me off omg I’m soo glad.

  • @RLSTUD1OS
    @RLSTUD1OS 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +5

    Green Arrow??? BLACK CANARY IS FAR MORE UNDERRATED 😭😭

    • @user-gl2nw4sx1m
      @user-gl2nw4sx1m 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Author is sexist and misogyn.

  • @TheUnseenPath
    @TheUnseenPath 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    If they wanted a comic accurate GA then he should be cracking jokes. Slade also fights the JL so he works too.

  • @superblue-Bc6re
    @superblue-Bc6re 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Can you do Shazam next please 😁

  • @CaseyJustice
    @CaseyJustice 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Green Arrow from Batman: The Brave and the Bold is the GOAT.

  • @NotCatchy
    @NotCatchy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Ngl bro I wish hawkgirl got even half the attention green arrow gets

  • @s-wo8781
    @s-wo8781 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What is the animation from at the end. It looks like Green Arrow is in The Boondocks.

  • @nightwing1491
    @nightwing1491 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This has nothing to do with Green Arrow but I am disappointed that I didn't Dick Grayson's origin to become Nightwing in Young Justice, and I agreee we need a more accurate Green Arrow in the upcoming DC films.

  • @gentlesavage2068
    @gentlesavage2068 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Seasons 1, 2 and 5 of arrow are great, I don't think arrow hurt the image of the character that much

  • @Dragonkid69
    @Dragonkid69 6 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Arrow Didn't feel like Ollies characters but batman Ollie is a jokester first he like to crack a joke hell batman the brave and the bold gave him an overconfident personality
    but ollie is a down to earth guy who helps his friends and girlfriend Black canary there relationship feels real because it's written like a real relationship they care about each other but have their own struggles and let's not forget Justice league unlimited the best characterization of him to date

    • @harrambou9468
      @harrambou9468 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I mean…Arrow did do that to a point.
      Hot take for some people but I say Season 2 is actually where some things went wrong. 3 had a few issues too but most of them branched off of 2.

  • @BigJosh01
    @BigJosh01 หลายเดือนก่อน

    One of Green arrows villains is literally Ra's Al Ghul look it up

  • @jacobpalmer2572
    @jacobpalmer2572 2 หลายเดือนก่อน

    What do you think Justin Hartley as Green Arrow?

  • @DCUEmp_prinzy
    @DCUEmp_prinzy 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    I HATE ARROW TILL THIS DAY. That show wanted to be batman so bad for no reason

    • @Kalel2.0
      @Kalel2.0 7 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      While I agree the show tried way too hard to be Batman it had some really good seasons particularly Sn 1,2,5 and 8

    • @thatonkgau5221
      @thatonkgau5221 6 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Now hold on now while the show did have it's ups and downs and it wasn't accurate to the comics copying A LOT from Batman. It was pretty good and it did give the Green arrow character more attention in DC media and made the character more popular. Before arrow I didn't know who Oliver Queen was but thanks to the show I've gotten way into Green Arrow comics and have become a devoted fan.

    • @harrambou9468
      @harrambou9468 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Take it easy big man. The show’s actually good on its own in large parts

  • @Jojo-nq3bp
    @Jojo-nq3bp 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    "his inaccurate version" clears the other green arrow versions lets be real

    • @abiodunsulaiman2297
      @abiodunsulaiman2297 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +15

      He is literally just green batman in the show

    • @Jojo-nq3bp
      @Jojo-nq3bp 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      @@abiodunsulaiman2297 and that's more interesting than what i've seen from him in the past 8 years from comics to animated movies

    • @Okkotsu86275
      @Okkotsu86275 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

      ​@@Jojo-nq3bpRespectfully disagree, besides the obvious parallels. Oliver Queen is completely different from Bruce Wayne. That is what makes him a compelling and interesting character. The CW interpretation of the character is shameful.

    • @Jojo-nq3bp
      @Jojo-nq3bp 8 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Okkotsu86275 yap yap yap. you're wrong lil bro

    • @verdant229
      @verdant229 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@ArcTrooper269his personality is way too similar to