Why Darth Vader RECOGNIZED Barriss Offee But Stayed Silent!
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Because Vader wants nothing to do with ‘the Jedi’. That is how talks about himself before he became Vader. He is a different person, another life, he can’t acknowledge he care what happened to ‘the Jedi’.
“That name NO LONGER has any meaning to me”…
This makes the most sense in my mind
I don’t see why some people are hating on Filoni now matter what he does
@@elphiegleason3899 I can somewhat see it. Everyone thought Vader was going to do and say more when seeing Barrisa. But truly I don’t know what?! ‘Hey girl, glad to see you out of prison. Let’s go hunt some Jedi, that we both used to be…’ honestly nothing would have made sense, except to what he did. Not give a damn about her. I like this channel, but him using her as bait and completely failing at it… just doesn’t work for Lord Vader.
Not to mention he didn't want anyone to know who he was/had been...
That didn’t stop him from biasing himself and slaughtering a pack of Tuskens 😅
She messed with Anakin’s padawan, not Vader’s.
Vader carries Anakin's pain, resentment and anger. Ahsoka's expulsion was one of the biggest points for Anakin to become disillusioned with the Jedi Order... and it was all Barriss' fault. Remembering that in Clone Wars, Anakin fights with her completely enraged and almost kills her… this type of anger is passed on to Vader.
Vader’s reaction didn’t make any sense.
What?
@@CaptainNova420he’s talking about Starkiller
Vader asked Ahsoka to join him on the dark side so apparently he doesnt care who the person is, as long as they submit themselves to the empire. Vader always gives the optimatum. Join or die. Bariss joined the empire with good intentions which is why vader not sense conflict. It wasnt until Bariss went on missions that she changed her mind about the empire. For most of the episodes she had no clue what the heck was going on after the jedi order fell.
@@CaptainNova420Jekyll and Hyde, Anakin and Vader. Anakin has split personality disorder
Why would Vader say anything? No one but Palpatine and Tarkin knows he is Anakin. And also, Barriss attacked the Jedi. Which Vader is actively trying to eradicate. Barriss is an ally to him now.
You are one of the few people I have seen say this. I feel like people just don’t understand that their theories about “oh Vader is going to destroy her”. Like why would he? That was Anakin’s deal and not Vader who is an entirely different character.
@@austinking5092True, but Vader killed anyone who remotely had an idea of who he was. I feel Barris facing Anakin is enough for Vader to be cautious of her finding out who he is.
@@gabrielcarrasco9078Why would she have the suspension of who Vader is as opposed to anyone else?
@@austinking5092 it just doesn't make any sense for him to confront her. Anakin now feels about the Jedi the same way Barriss did when she betrayed them. Also, Anakin is officially dead at this point. According to official records, he died in the sacking of the temple. Why reveal to Barriss that he is still alive? It's a secret best kept.
@@M27ha 100% agree
Vader most likely has met every inquisitor 1 way or another since they are all just fallen Jedi lol
That hit deeper than john & johnson
Keep in mind, Vader's perspective of the Jedi is that they are corrupted and evil. That is why he is exterminating them. Barriss brought that up that they are corrupted during the court scene and it came true for him
Well, maybe on mustafar. Here he was so far gone, that going back was no option.
Vader doesn't want people to know he's Anakin.
He is all about his appearance, and hiding his original self. So yeah, he knew her, but didnt want to reveal himself
he no longer cares about everything Anakin Skywalker. He recognized Barris but he no longer care because he cares about serving the Empire.
@@FilNightmare2187the dude is right tho, Vader wants to kill anyone who finds out Vader is Anakin or anybody to do with his past
@@FilNightmare2187Not entirely accurate. His handling of Wato and anything slave related is proof of that.
i never understood why its so important to the fans for characters to recognize eachother.
Anakin has personal beef and hatred for Barris.
@@noname-oq8ey and Vader had that for everyone. There’s no reason for him to take a personal vendetta out on her specifically at that point
I'm assuming that he may have orchestrated her release.
I get a feeling that Vader somewhat enjoys seeing former Jedi become Inquisitors. Its almost validates the weakness of the Jedi in his eyes and the path he took. Maybe seeing others fall is a way of him coping with his own life choices.
he's bringing people into his own addiction to feel better about it lol.
Vader wouldn't say anything... He kept himself hidden from being Anakin.
Vader wanted to kill Ahsoka. Remnant of Anakin's life. Bariss helped him get on his way to the dark side. He wants to hide his past. Not a bit surprised.
because he believes she was right all along about the jedi.
I think that Bariss Offie felt or sensed a familiar presence, but of course she didn’t know it was Anikan.
I think it just showed her being intimidated, beyond the levels of like the Grand Inquisitor.
I cant imagine Vader going hey barriss! You wouldn't believe the day I had yesterday
I’m very disappointed it wasn’t Vader walking up to bariss on the 3rd episode. It would be so good to see how anakin first handled her but now as Vader finishes her off it would be good to see him hunt down Jedi on screen. But Disney just can’t deliver half the time and it’s so disappointing
Honestly i see Vader as the kind of antagonist to use Sparingly
He was the final antagonist in Rogue one, The main antagonist of Rebels Season 2, the main villain in tbe Obi Wan show and a recurring villain in the fallen order series
I feel like we have our plenty share with Vader and seeing him confront Barriss on something that would only be known by anakin would have been a dead giveaway
To paraphrase Paul Rudd...
_"60% of the time it doesn't work every time."_
Vader didn’t need to say anything because her history was with Anakin Skywalker, not him.
So my friends, I was wrong about Barriss Offee Redeem yourself, just like Anakin Skywalker did. Except for Morgan. She was pure evil. right to the core i hope barriss is alive
I like to think he let her be, cause she is a good bait for other Jedi, as well as good for if maybe Ahsoka somehow survived, which it being Anakin in Vader, there was still always the thought lurking that she might could have still survived, because let´s face it, Vader isn´t rational and sometimes has hallucinations/sees the world different to how it really is.
I mean, the guy tried to find a way to bring Padme back, after the guy who promised to save her failed already, when she was still alive, so how the hell would he bring her back now, that so much time had passed?
Well, this is just business for him. Also you could say that maybe he was glad she made Ahsoka leave. Because of her she left the Jedi, because of that she survived order 66, Anakin thought the Jedi are evil, he was clearly not angry at her anymore. Also he tried to kill Anakin, he did not care about his past life, he tried to destroy it.
To recognize Barriss in front of all the other inquisitors, would be to recognize Vader.
I thought it was because the worst thing he could do to her was to have her work as an Inquisitor. It’s a common thread in Star Wars that being evil sucks, and Vader and Inquisitors like Second and Ninth Sister are good examples of that.
It made sense that he didnt speak to her. Especially in front of the other inquisitors. He cant let her know that he knows who she is. It would raise too many questions and she would have figured out who he was.
The question is: did Barriss Offee know who Darth Vader was? If she didn't (and we know Darth Vader wanted to keep his former identity a secret), then he would have to pretend she was just another Inquisitor in order to avoid giving hints. But if I were Vader, I'd punish Barriss very hard if she made a mistake. It's not like Vader has never choked anyone to death. Lol
Vader should’ve been the one to show up like a badass at the end of the last episode to crush Barris. Would’ve been satisfying since she fought Anakin and now that he’s a Sith, Vader gets to do what a Jedi couldn’t. No mercy. Instead we have some loose end with the inquisitor that runs away from the empire..
For me it's more the fact that they made us wait for years to see what became of Barriss and after a while this was the result
Another Cliffhanger, where we can only guess what became of Lyn and Barriss then afterwards
I really was hoping that at the end of her arc on that snow planet that it was going to be Darth Vader to deal her final blow. Which I think would have been pretty fitting and a call back to when Anikan and Barris fought in the Jedi temple during Ashoka’s trial with Anikan as the Jedi and Barrie on the dark path but now the roles reversed and Vader could now do what he probably wished he could have done back then…kill her.
Except Anakin likely mostly blamed Obi Wan and tbe Council, sure Barriss instigated it but the council ultimately made the decision to allow the military to try and execute her
And since Obi Wan is still out there amd Vader is more focused on trying to wipe out anymore Scoured Jedi it makes sense that he wouldn't waste his time on someone like Barriss
I mean vader always had to keep his temper inside as sideous considers that his personal feelings made him week.
Sideous always just kept wanting more and more to replace and replace....
I really wanted the confrontation between Vader and Offee in that last episode instead of Lyn. Even though Vader doesn't acknowledge his former self seeing Offee could have angered him due to her being the reason he lost Ahsoka. It would have given more meaning to him hating the Inquisitors once she fled and having him hunter her down to get information from her to find other Jedi's kinda would had made more sense to me just my opinion on this.
Anakin Skywalker had a history with her. But Darth Vader has no history with her. His past with her has no meaning to him.
If he had seen light in her at that moment, he would have Offeed her.
Nice pun.
Offeed her 💀💀💀💀
Anakin would have been angry at Bariss for betraying the Jedi and Ahsoka. However, he did the same thing but on a massive scale, so there is no reason to hate Bariss if he did the same thing but worse. Despite this, the true reason is that Vader is detaching himself from his former identity as Anakin Skywalker, especially with the personality of what and who Anakin likes and hates. Sidious "advises" (orders) Vader to do this and threatens him with "death" and torture if he does not do so. Fans who really want to have an idea of what Vader is thinking at this point should read the Darth Vader comics where he is hunting Jedi and even supporting the Empire's invasion of Mon Cala.
They better make a “ Tales of The inquisitorius” 🙄
she was the last of the past, she was the last of hope. he deep inside just left it alone.
this is such a deep take! my thought was just that Vader didn't wanna talk to her cause he knew she was "right" abt the Jedi Order & he didn't wanna have to confront the fact that she was "right" when he was "wrong" (not that he was expecting her to say "i told you so," but maybe just being in her presence reminds him of that & he doesn't wanna deal with it lol)
He knew where Barriss was the whole time while she was imprisoned. If he wanted to talk to (interrogate) her he could have at anytime.
I feel like he was just waiting to see what she was going to do, and when she put the helmet on, he was satisfied.
It seems as if everyone has forgotten this part about Vaders character, he has always tried to distance himself from his past life and try to forget about it which is why he always refers to Anakin as dead, if he ever were to see someone from his past life he would never say about it out loud or tell them that he was Anakin or something, there was only very VERY rare moments where he would reveal his identity in the comics but other then that he would not say a thing. He may internalise in his mind, yes. However he would not act on it, I feel like peoples expectations for Barris and Vaders meeting were too high If he was so un reactive to Ahsoka then I doubt he would be to Barris.
Personally, I never thought Vader would 'talk' with Barriss. But make her life miserable? Yes. That's what I was expecting.
And maybe her helmet was off as another test from Palpatine. To see if Vader really killed Anakin and take his life as a sith seriously.
Vader builds opprotunities and bridges to find his former "brother" master and Ahsoka.
I don't think that Vader ever wanted to kill Ahsoka as much as he wanted to kill Obi-Wan. When he went to that icy planet he wanted to know if she is still alive. It was Anakin who went to check for his padawan, Vader wouldn't have gone there in person if he didn't care. Also in rebels, before fighting Ahsoka, he tries to turn her to the darkside.
Crazy that her story had nothing to do with Vader, or with her trial/ speech which turned the Grand Inquisitor against the Jedi, or anything to do with Luminara on the Spire… I think it would have been ten times better if she died trying to save her old master, who would turn out to be mummified.
Reminder: Anakin is not Vader, and Vader is not Anakin. It's like a split personality.
Vader: "Ayo, you recall that Anakin guy who attacked you? Crazy world, huh? In any event, welcome aboard."
Vader probably thought that Barris could be useful
I was kinda expecting a threat, atleast a warning
Same
Same
Why would he? That was Anakin’s issue with her, not Vader’s.
@@aaronmiles2802 There are plenty of things Vaders holds grudges against that were previously Anakin's. Slavers, Tattoine, and Obi Wan. Lets not forget Vader even trys to let Ahsoka join him, I feel because that was apart of Anakin comming out.
@@SupChad735 Firstly, he never intended to have Asokha join him. Filoni confirmed that it was a ploy to have her lead him to more Jedi, particularly Obi Wan. He was going to kill her in the end, especially as Palpatine would have never allowed her to live anyway. Secondly, the other things you mentioned are subconscious, he actively tried to repress them. Addressing Barris would be him effectively consciously acknowledging Anakin’s past, he’d never do that purposefully.
I don’t think you fully grasp how far Vader wanted to actively push away and repress the memory of Anakin, it’s why Luke was the only one able to bring him back. Everyone else is a product of the past failures of Anakin. Luke represented the potential for something new and not “tainted” by Anakin’s life, yet he was still intrinsically tied to Vader.
I also loved how she said "You don't know the path." after sending the force sensitive child for help, like The Path in the Obi-Wan show.
He probably thought "Huh? Well, no manner."
Barriss living in fear as a inquisitor would have been good revenge. We all know how vader treated them
Palpatine: You betrayed your order the government and the order you belonged too...but you were right. come join the Empire! Barriss Offee *Betrays the empire*
Palpatine: Everything is proceeding as I have foressen it.....This was part of my grand plan. I'm definitely not making this up as I go along...
Could it be that the dark side was radiating so strong that she was cowed and he just let it stay quiet and fearful?
the scene in clone wards of vader finding ashoka's sabers is deffenatly after the events of ep 1 of the barras story, givne that shows it happens across the first few days after order 66 and they have clone troopers still around while the clone wars scene has snowtroopers and full imperial vehicles and probe droids that arnt even in service at the end of bad batch (as we have TK troopers who are useing the clone wars era stuff but ISD's are jsut starting to roll out). so at that point vader would jsut have ashoka (and everyone on that venator) as MIA. so more reason for him to assume she is alove when the saber find scene seems to imply closer for him.
Yes.
Yeah I wondered why he stayed quiet
why even would he have to say anything?
Because budget.
@@alexfischer7876 why did he need to say anything?
@@chase1146
Because Disney are acting _chickenshit_ and can't come up with any line.
@@alexfischer7876 but why would he need to say anything to begin with?
The way I read it was that Darth Vader was distancing himself from Skywalker. To admit his link to Barriss would be to admit Anakin is still in there somewhere.
The problem with TOTE is that it did not shown Bariss as fallen Jedi or even internaly struglling. At the beginning she is really concerned about Jedi Temple being bombed, like she hadn't done same thing some months before. Later she is ultimately optimistic of new duty as inqusitor, believing in keeping order and helping galxy citizens and even 'traitor' jedi to find right path. I wanted to see 'Wrong Jedi' Bariss that was ruthless, determined and fanatical reather than schoolgirl that accidently joined gang.
I think that when Darth Vader saw Barriss he remembered who she was and what she did and he didn't want to remind her and himself of it that's why he didn't say anything.
we need a full show about barris. the shorts didnt show enough.
Tarkin also recognised Vader from his fighting technique in the Clone Wars and Vader had to brush that aside as well
I don't really have a problem with Vader's reaction here, but I am disapointing he did not playba bigger role than just a cameo.
She aged like a tomato 😂
Barris is literally a slave of the empire, one does not ‘stop being an inquisitor’ without being hunted down. We see this in the show.
I guarantee the Inquisitors were not intended to be kept around forever. When the emperor was confident all the Jedi had been dealt with- they would’ve been dispatched of. If anything Vader would be amused that Barris ended up in this position- there’s nothing to say, he holds all the cards.
Why would he speak to her? He rules over her, and of course that was a different life that he doesn't care to speak on.
He wasn't vengeful against Osoka, just Obi-Wan. I think Vader would have more or less put her under him to be his secret sith apprentice
I hope she's still alive and we get stories to fill in the gaps between her leaving the inquisition and Lynd finding her.
it's probably to show that there's some good with Anakin there, as padme said, if vader was that ruthless, he would have barriss terminated on the spot, that thankfully he _chosen_ not too.
It also adds to the fact that he seemingly kept giving the Inquisitors in Rebels Second chances which is very rare so i feel like even then Anakin had some compassion left
'Not to say he still isn't a monster but still i consider those times in Rebels a rare time he shows mercy"
@@riley-dv8eu yeah he would've giving Ezra the same fate as he did to those jedi younglings, yet he didn't which is a sign that there's some good in him still, at least he would've if he wasn't interested in asking him how he activated the sith temple and all.
Don’t usually comment, but Vader did try kill Ahsoka in Rebels when they meet during the worlds between worlds. He was angry with her because she left when he needed her the most. He probably just didn’t care anymore in this scene
Vader doesn't want to reveal his past. No one but Tarkin, Palpatine, and Thrawn know he is Anakin. If he were to ever reveal himself to Barriss or take revenge, she'd know who he is.
Secondly, Vader does NOT know that Ahsoka is alive. It's why in Rebels, when they first encounter each other, Vader says "So...the Apprentice lives" because he has now found that out himself.
Yeah. Idc what anyone says. This show was underwhelming and it was definitely a missed opportunity.
How do you expect the man to react if he's got only seconds of screen time
Easy. They wanted to lure fans to watch the show but couldn't afford James Earl Jones.
Nor his AI-replicated voice, apparently.
Which is totally OK with JEJ himself - _'cause he gave all the blessings for it, mind you._
Barista Coffee. Wow such creativity. Well done Disney Star Wars
I think there’s an aspect of hate that Vader has towards her. I think he stayed silent because he couldn’t be bothered to acknowledge her existence. Even though she has now joined the same side as him, he probably still has a lot of pain and anger because of her. Essentially she was the reason him and Asoka got separated. I think he just stayed silent because he literally did not care about her. Or he was fighting back the urge to kill her.
It should’ve been like every episode is a whole new story with new characters that spread out at different points of the empire….like one episode with Boba Fett getting his first contact/bounty from the empire….Commander Cody goin to Tattoo to hunt/reunite with Obi-Wan…..Boba facing off the darth vader etc
Anakin was dead. He made a point of never letting anyone know he was Anakin and would kill anyone who recognize him as such. So as Vader (and doing the exact crime Bariss was accused of) he had no reason to acknowledge her.
I imagined Ahsoka and Barris fighting. Then Ahsoka gets Barriss on the ground pointing her lightsaber at her and speaking. you were my best friend Barriss, I can't understand why betrayed that. but I do owe you thanks for opening my eyes and leaving the Jedi order was the best thing I done. She turns off her lightsaber. if you want to kill me then go ahead but I forgive you. turn around and walk away.
Because Vader is the opposite of Anakin. Anakin is impulsive and hot headed while Vader is calm and collective of his grudges
It's simple... Vader doesnt want Baris to know who he WAS
I was glad they didn't make a big deal of it by featuring the two in the same room, though i do wish we could have had atleast one line like
"Well, well Barriss Offee i have kept track of your reputation, you will be working under direct orders of your superior
Do Not Disappoint me
"Or something among those lines"
Because Darth Vader has done far worse to his loved ones and knows that he has no right to judge anyone but himself.
I was hoping Vader would tell her that she would be most useful I knew he would not kill her tho but they can create James Earl Jones’s voice with AI he even gave them permission it’s a shame they didn’t use it here for at least just one line or two of dialogue
Honestly she should've became the new grand Inquisitor and chilling with thrawns forces waiting for his return
They both sensed each others presence.
Yeah I doubt he cared one bit…everything that happened between them is non existent since he’s Vader now. They might as well be meeting for the first time.
I thought it was quinlan voss she knew tbh
She indirectly one the reasons why he fall to the dark side.
Just bad writing. Funny watching everyone do mental gymnastics trying to speculate. Vader would’ve murdered her off the books
sometimes fans actually try to speculate over bad writing but this time it doesn't seem so bad. Vader tried to forget everything about Anakin's life
Vader recognized her but didn’t care because his view on the Jedi is the same as barris and killing her or anything would just be him not letting go of his past life as anakin which Vader is trying to do.
*Execute order 66*
ashoka: im no jedi
Clones/Rex: Understandable have a nice day.
ashoka: ....phew
He might have been the one who recommended her as a candidate.
Because James Earl Jones has retired as Vader?
Disney bought the rights to generate AI Vader voice using JEJ’s prior work
Yes but he sold his voice to Disney so they can use his voice without James Earl Jones
The physical actor may have been retired, but his iconic voice has now been immortalized via digital means.
_Disney acting chickenshit, perhaps?_
I agree with the video. That was Anakin's life and he wouldn't tell people who he was. We know what Vader did to people, namely imperials who saw him without his mask on. Despite Anakin's resentment towards Barris he wouldn't show it. That makes a lot more sense that he was plotting something instead.
What would he even say?
It's not like he goes flaunting his Anakin Skywalker identity, neither is he some sort of dull witted oaf that he'll hiss and rage every time he sees a person he fought against in the past.
He's there to further the business of the Empire. If Bariss is useful, fine, if not, she gets disposed off. That's all.
Ok, if Barris fought Anakin Skywalker knowing who he was, wouldn’t Barris be able to feel Anakin through the force? Or maybe not because now Anakin Skywalker has succumbed to the dark side? When Jedis fight and know each other then they can feel each other through the force? No? Yes?
Vader is a Sith lord. To a Sith lord everyone including their master is nothing but a tool to gain more power.
Aside from the "they/them" debacle, tales from the empire was fantastic. Could they have covered better charicters? Sure. But you got to admire Dave Faloni's animation team. My biggest complaint was run time. I wish these episodes were full-length and i wish they covered more of the backstory of the Fouth sister, i like the charicter despite having little appearances through out the saga.
They didn't address whether or not Baris knew about what they Empire did to Master Unduli.
No. He didn’t say anything because he had nothing to say and it would reveal he was a pathetically weakened Anakin.
This doesn’t require a 10 minute essay
I don't think Vader gave a sh*t. He was obsessed with finding Obi-Wan at this point
Naw I don’t think she met Ahsoka, the friend she was referring to was most likely the woman she saved in the previous episode
Ok but he probably recognized several of them?
He was one of the top generals he literally would have met a majority of jedis… Vader only wanted to kill all of them the grand inquisitor as a rival and all the inquisitor as meaningless trinkets he forced to deal with instead of being able to kill jedis
Why would he say anything, not to just Barriss but any of them? He may have knew some as Jedi. They are now far beneath his position. Vader never spoke "in a personable way" to anybody who hasn't earned some respect for and/or is far beneath him.
However, Vader does realize Barriss' potential with the Dark Side. Of course he senses some conflict. She was just released from prison and has no idea exactly what her future entails. There were other inquisitors who were conflicted. Especially with hunting young force wielders.
Vader felt conflict with Reva (for years); however, she displayed POTENTAL with the Dark Side. This is why more than one inquisitor was allowed to stay despite some internal conflict. Vader and Palpatine both knew it would play out. They weren't training Sith. They were training tools to hunt Jedi. Don't forget. Anakin dealt with conflict for years as a Jedi, and of course we find out in the end, his conflict still existed. It was just buried. Palpatine and the Dark Side was all Vader had until Luke.
When it comes to the "friend". Many will jump and think of Ahsoka. Yet. This could also be anyone associated with The Path as well.
When it comes to SW Animation. I hope this stays alive and well. It would be nice for Dave Filoni to take up an apprentice himself, and give them a series to create. Maybe even something associated with The Path. Quinlan Voss and others. This is a way for Disney to heal the wounds of having so many survivors and building the Jedi of the future for Rey's upcoming big screen movies.
Guarantee she could sense who Vader was. Just like Ahsoka did.
Would have been cool. Instead it was a useless cameo for bait.
To be honest I thought Vader was going to fight and kill Barris in the final episode because of what happened with ahsoka when she betrayed not just her but everyone else and heck maybe when she realized who he is