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    Axe Effect is an SNMP-enabled temperature sensor, designed to be simple and secure to deploy to your network environment, as well as delivering more accurate temperature data than most other solutions on the market today. It’s powered by a Raspberry Pi Pico-W RP2040, with a temperature sensor that is accurate out of the box to +/- 0.3C, and has a 0.01C fidelity, delivering smooth charting to your SNMP monitoring software.
    Axe Effect is currently in Beta as we're developing the final product. The Beta version is built around a Raspberry Pi Pico-W development board, along with our own custom PCB and 3D Printed enclosure.
    We're offering 400 of these Beta boards for sale while we develop the final product, to be available in Q4 2024. During this Beta phase, we're also seeking feedback, feature suggestions, and bug reports as we continue to develop and refine the firmware.
    The Beta version uses USB-Micro for power, and connects to your network via 2.4GHz WiFi (802.11n) on the Raspberry Pi Pico-W. Configuration is handled via a USB-Serial connection, and is persistent to the device through power cycling.
    The thermal probe we’re using is actually a temperature, humidity and pressure sensor. The Beta version currently enables temperature monitoring, with humidity and pressure also on the roadmap for the final version.
    The final version of Axe Effect will come in two different flavors, both of which will still be built on the RP2040 processor, but using 100% custom designed boards. The first will be WiFi connected, with USB-C for power and serial configuration. The second will have Ethernet, and can use either USB-C or PoE for power. We’re also toying with the idea of adding a DC barrel jack for those of you with DC power distribution in your server racks. But the final features are going to come down to what you all want to see out of a device like this.
    The final version will also not be a 3D Printed enclosure, as I’m going to be seeking either injection molding, or some other process that makes more sense for mass production.
    The Beta firmware is feature complete. We currently support SNMP v1 and v2c, with SNMPv3 on the roadmap for the final retail product.
    We're selling the Beta version for just $65, and have a goal of $60 for the final version of Axe Effect WiFi. Pricing on the Ethernet/PoE version is TBD, depending on development and component costs.
    0:00 - Why is this so difficult?!?
    3:03 - Meet Axe Effect
    6:09 - Sponsor (PCBWay)
    7:56 - Setting up over Serial
    11:05 - Monitoring Temperature with Observium
    12:40 - Current Design / Future Plans
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  • @JeffGeerling
    @JeffGeerling 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1420

    I see Raspberry Pi, I click buy.

    • @rallegade
      @rallegade 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Hell yeah!

    • @sharukhrahman7925
      @sharukhrahman7925 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

      Raspiholic

    • @legendofphil
      @legendofphil 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +52

      I don't see a Raspberry Pi because Jeff Gerling clicked buy

    • @hegg25
      @hegg25 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      lol

    • @johnmaynardelec5095
      @johnmaynardelec5095 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      Hi other jeff!

  • @marcogenovesi8570
    @marcogenovesi8570 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +763

    time to get notified that there are hot servers in your area

    • @isaackvasager9957
      @isaackvasager9957 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

      I'm only interested in the single hot servers.

    • @eW0LF
      @eW0LF 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

      @@isaackvasager9957 no interest in big beautiful clusters?

    • @APinTheAK
      @APinTheAK 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@eW0LFonly of the Beowulf flavor.

    • @faealiciadotsys
      @faealiciadotsys 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +15

      lol. New coaster idea: The text "Hot Server In Your Area! Click Here!" with one of these things attached to a server rack and 40C showing on the display.

    • @isaackvasager9957
      @isaackvasager9957 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

      @@eW0LF now that you mention it, a cluster does sound appealing. I'm not sure if my wife will approve.

  • @TheRogueBro
    @TheRogueBro 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +183

    Wasn't even 1/4 of the way before I sent the link to my manager. Hopefully he likes it and we order some!

    • @TheRogueBro
      @TheRogueBro 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +37

      Ordered! Thanks Jeff, this will be so awesome.

    • @CraftComputing
      @CraftComputing  25 วันที่ผ่านมา +55

      homer_woohoo.gif

  • @VeronicaExplains
    @VeronicaExplains 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +111

    Oh, I'm so hooking this up to my terminal to configure it.

    • @CraftComputing
      @CraftComputing  25 วันที่ผ่านมา +11

      YAS!!!!!

    • @pjohnson21211
      @pjohnson21211 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      wait you still have a terminal?!?!? I sadly LONG AGO got ride of my VT220 terminal 😁

  • @Mike-xy4jz
    @Mike-xy4jz 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +191

    a poe version would be great! and home assistant integration.

    • @CraftComputing
      @CraftComputing  25 วันที่ผ่านมา +96

      These work out of the box with Home Assistant 🤘

    • @BCKammen
      @BCKammen 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +21

      Jeff did say that he is working on the PoE version, and hopefully the same time frame as the final product, Q4 of 2024. For Home Assistant it automatically picks up SNMP traffic so like other devices it should show up automatically or discovered by HA. I am waiting on mine once I order it (next week) to test it to make sure.

    • @Mike-xy4jz
      @Mike-xy4jz 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

      @@BCKammen yes thats what happen when someone comments before finishing the video.

    • @dukeseb
      @dukeseb 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I’m just going to hold off for the Poe version, but I’ll get one for sure

    • @pjohnson21211
      @pjohnson21211 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@CraftComputing hah! had the same thought as @mike-xy4jz but figured this would come around in some manner at some point and wasn't an issue I needed right away. SUPER happy it will work as delivered

  • @joshuaanhalt3180
    @joshuaanhalt3180 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +193

    A magnetic mount option would be great. Perhaps a recess in the case for a neodymium magnet.

    • @CraftComputing
      @CraftComputing  25 วันที่ผ่านมา +97

      That's absolutely something I'm looking into for the final case. Being able to just stick it to a rack door or side rail would make deploying quite a bit easier.

    • @tombarber8929
      @tombarber8929 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      +1 to this. Some of our tripplite environmental sensors have the same thing and it's nice to have for mounting on the side of a rack easily

    • @garsonthedude
      @garsonthedude 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      I use Sonoff SNZB-02D (ZigBee Temperature and Humidity Sensor with Display) for this, has a magnetic mount. Not an snmp device, I know, but easy to integrate into any monitoring software. And uses CR2450 battery.

    • @janseiffert7799
      @janseiffert7799 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      @@CraftComputing Some recess in the case to "snap" on a top hat rail (DIN rail)? Not real snap (complex mechanic) but if one could hang it over the rail and secure with a screw... Temp monitoring in electric cabinets is also a pain in the behind...
      Same screw hole could then be used with a rack key stone?

  • @Kasrk1n
    @Kasrk1n 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +94

    and now together: thank you joel!

    • @tranthien3932
      @tranthien3932 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ᵀʰᵃⁿᵏ ʸᵒᵘ ᴶᵒᵉˡ

  • @bugdozer314
    @bugdozer314 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +25

    SNMP is great. Suggestion, consider supporting MQTT and/or providing a prometheus scrape target.
    MQTT would enable folks not caring about what the device ip is, and there are already some generic MQTT to prometheus handlers out there (I'm thinking of releasing mine) folks could use with prom. I run this for all of my Shelly devices.
    Prometheus support would enable folks already using Grafana/prometheus stacks, and obviate the need to stand up an SNMP monitoring solution. Yes, this is a web target, but that's pretty simple to write. My battery monitor project provides a curl-able interface, in addition to MQTT.
    As for hardware, nothing against rPi, though curious why so specific on rPi and not ESP32 or 8266?
    Congratulations, there's nothing quite like having a working product in hand.

    • @flash0222
      @flash0222 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I would second the MQTT option, this is great for Home Assistant integrations, and makes care of SNMP and DHCP concerns

    • @academicpachyderm5155
      @academicpachyderm5155 6 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      I had your same series of thoughts! MQTT would be great.
      Given that he's having user upgradable firmware, the drag and drop of a pi pico is waaaaay easier to do and support than toggling the gpio of the esp32 to boot into upload mode and needing a serial adapter. Shipping the final polished version to hyperscalers? Sure, but for now in dev it makes more sense to go with pi pico for a gentler learning curve for server people

  • @marcogenovesi8570
    @marcogenovesi8570 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +69

    15:06 he said the thing. He said Zabbix! (crowd cheering)

  • @JamieStuff
    @JamieStuff 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +53

    On the final board (all versions), PLEASE put two pads, 0.1" apart, for power, so we can add a pin header. You don't need to put the header on the board, or even drill the holes. Just give us a place to attach our own power wires.

    • @CraftComputing
      @CraftComputing  25 วันที่ผ่านมา +31

      I'm sure we'll have some exposed test pads. I'll make sure to mention this to my dev.

    • @JeffGeerling
      @JeffGeerling 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +35

      @@CraftComputing Test pads are nice, but a couple through holes would be best-can either pop a wire through, or put on any kind of standard header.

    • @varno
      @varno 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

      Make sure the pads are spaced on a 0.1 inch grid in one line for breadboard compatibility

    • @overamped23042
      @overamped23042 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      Maybe have the 0.1" holes in the case set up just like the flipper zero.

  • @skaal_
    @skaal_ 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +177

    May need to sell a 2 pack for front and rear of rack temp monitoring

    • @pflasterstrips7254
      @pflasterstrips7254 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +19

      I hope the V2 will have the option to connect multiple wired sensors to the same board. Maybe with different sensors that are designed for surface, air or fluid temp.

    • @ImAManMann
      @ImAManMann 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Proper servers have multiple temp sensors including intake air temp.

    • @shadyworld1
      @shadyworld1 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I believe 3rd Modular version with single board per rack + multi sensor modules that each independently configurable would be a great option
      So that would make it simple, less complicated, configurable, and scalable for due to modularity capabilities once included to the mix!
      One more thing is and SDK and API interface with Auth. Layer to help having all data integrated with any IT management tool or endpoint tool or a custom dashboard so IT Team could have all notifications and management from one place even remotely!

    • @ianbelletti6241
      @ianbelletti6241 19 วันที่ผ่านมา

      3 pack as well for those who want to pick up general room temp off the rack.

  • @rawiriblundell
    @rawiriblundell 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +24

    As soon as you mentioned POE, I went straight to "shut up and take my money". The current rack mountable format you have with POE would be about perfect for my needs at work and home.
    Spitball ideas:
    I wonder if you could cut a deal with the rackstuds guys to bundle a rackstud duo?
    Being able to buy the boards and print your own cases would be a nice option to give a little bit of flexibility for certain use-cases.
    Having the final case available in different colours could also be useful for either aesthetic or practical reasons. Red and Blue could be used to represent that a given sensor is on either the A or B side of redundant power/network, for example. Or hot and cold aisles, but that's probably a stretch: if you're eyeballing these things, you know you're in a hot or cold aisle. Maybe this idea ultimately intersects better with boards + print your own case...

  • @gg-gn3re
    @gg-gn3re 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +50

    You need to use sensirion sensors. SHT85, SHT35, SHT31 are all better than what I assume you are using the bosch BME280. This sensor is a pressure sensor for rapid readings and flight controllers and has self heating problems which are "prevented" by using forced mode or sleeping the unit but still heats itself and bosch will tell you the same thing.
    SHT35 or SHT31 will be the same price and more accurate but most importantly last many years longer for the accuracy you seek. SHT85 if you want extreme accuracy for higher price.

    • @timramich
      @timramich 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      That and having sensors be an external thing that connects via cable, so the device's heat itself doesn't heat the sensor.

    • @Baba_Kush
      @Baba_Kush 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      There is also a nice test on TH-cam for Sensors and how mich they heating up by itselfe. The winner there was the HDC1080.
      Also I would use a Microcontroller with micropython or something. Like the esp32s3. Would be way cheaper and nore energy efficient

    • @timramich
      @timramich 19 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@Baba_Kush That and use an output to power the sensor. Only power it to poll it.

    • @TD-er
      @TD-er 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@timramich Most sensors can also be commanded to go to sleep.
      However I doubt it will make a lot of difference in something like a serverrack or close to an UPS battery as mentioned in the video.
      Maybe using some DS18b20 would also be a good idea here as those can easily be daisy-chained to measure temperature at several positions. And when using the genuine ones, you get really stable readings. (thus do not buy from Chinese sites as you will guaranteed not get the real ones, believe me I have tried while developing for ESPEasy)

    • @timramich
      @timramich 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@TD-er If the sensor was open to airflow then not going to sleep would be fine. But maybe 10 years ago I had a thermometer circuit set up on a breadboard with a DS18B20 and you could see the temperature reading rise after it was turned on. In the manual it states about only powering it on to poll it because of self-heating.

  • @snapsetup
    @snapsetup 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

    I've been in IT for 25 years and I think this is awesome! I had this problem recently with one of our remote locations. Once this is finalized, I will definitely be buying several.

  • @-ColorMehJewish-
    @-ColorMehJewish- 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    I do this w/ an ESP32 and I have built it into a fan-controller (I have 2U taken up for 4 x 80mm fans)
    I'm happy to see you and a few others getting into this type of development
    It's rewarding (teaches you a lot, and u actually make things) but it's opened my eyes to a whole new world.
    (Home Assistant and my home automation project started that journey)

    • @Shocker99
      @Shocker99 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      I've done a temperature and humidity monitor as part of an environmental monitoring effort.

    • @MegaWatzProduction
      @MegaWatzProduction 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      This. ESP32 would allow for both Bluetooth and wifi. Could add PoE and a DS18B20. Probably just as cheap to build.

    • @-ColorMehJewish-
      @-ColorMehJewish- 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      ​@@MegaWatzProduction I thought about going PoE but currently I have a 12V barrel jack powering the 4 x 80mm Noctua redux 1800 rpms.
      Also, I have not has as much luck w/ the DS18B20's indoors but I think it'd be more accurate resolving the output values if I utilized the correct resistor when connecting. I have a few outside and they work beautifully.
      I'm imagining he's using a BME or BMP280m but it could be a DHT22/AM2320 but it looks more like the BME to me.
      But overall, it's nice that it's available w/o spending hundreds. Not everyone wants to build their stuff, but you're 100% correct. The ESP + temp sensor would def work fine. More MDF/IDF's should have them (and proper ventilation), but often do not.

    • @-ColorMehJewish-
      @-ColorMehJewish- 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@Shocker99 It's a great thing to get into --- one project turned into an obsession for me. And I have never stopped since (especially b/c it gives me new ways to use RPi's as well).
      It feels actually rewarding to build things like this. And even better imo, it gives many people a great starting place to get into programming. A use-case that's actually useful (unlike POS systems and things that are meaningless to a new dev).
      Was yours networked w/ others or a standalone?

    • @EkiToji
      @EkiToji 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I agree ESP32 is probably a cheap way to go. For some reason I do just miss the simplicity of 4-20 mA converters for sensor circuit loops but it's a digital world these days and wireless does tend to make things easy.

  • @accrevoke
    @accrevoke 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +28

    Hmm, how would the humidity censor work? It would be fun to play with!
    case feature suggestions
    - have the USB port recessed and or add a zigzag cable channel, reducing chances of cable getting snagged and easily pulled out
    - recess feature for (asset) label, you know exactly why :)
    - counterdrill / sunken screw holes to provide flatter / less interference with any cables running close / next to the unit
    - instead of strict holes, use channels (like PC cases' designs for radiators / fans mounting), so the hardware mounting option is more flexible
    - or have hooks to latch onto existing in-used rack unit
    - or just have zip-tied spots, eliminating the need for screws all together...
    - EF shielding if aiming for industrial applications (i.e. factories, warehouses)
    - operating temperature warning in the exterior of the case, if someone is mounting it for exhaust / hot aisle monitoring, they should know the unit is rated for 85ºC (don't put too close to a blade center exhaust, haha)
    potential feature
    - If the unit has LED, would be nice to have a "blink LED to locate" feature, you know exactly why :)
    - (e)SIM module for OOB reporting (probably only possible if the unit is selling in LARGEEE volume)
    - temperature threshold to trigger home assistant automation (increase, hold or reduce room cooling, aisle / rack fan speed)
    - Infrared censor module to trigger home assistant automation / some sort of output for the room lighting system
    - local statistic logging, so the readings are retrievable during network outage or otherwise (might as well, if it doesn't take too long to implement)
    - SMTP, webhook... various notifications method
    - WiFi and bluetooth monitoring (might as well, if there are not much else to implement)

  • @DavidSchneiderPlus
    @DavidSchneiderPlus 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +22

    The PoE version sounds awesome!

  • @rallegade
    @rallegade 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +27

    I live in Europe, but I will most likely buy one just to help testing, give inputs and of course support you. This is needed!

    • @whismerhillgaming
      @whismerhillgaming 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

      what are the shipping cost ?
      I tried to go through the ordering process just enough to see shipping cost calculations
      and it kept saying address invalid (when it wasn't)

    • @rallegade
      @rallegade 23 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@whismerhillgaming the main issue is not the shipping cost but the fact that we pay our postal service a pretty hefty fee for doing the import taxes for us and it is not cheap

    • @Trenjeska
      @Trenjeska 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@rallegade Netherlands? postnl is really bad in overcharging for this 'service'

    • @TheBayru
      @TheBayru 8 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@@Trenjeska😅 Someone tells me they will ship via PostNL, I cancel my order. A trash can is a better delivery service.

  • @DeeStar-vh6zc
    @DeeStar-vh6zc 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

    That's only two words - Well Done!
    Like you've found the niche, you found the solution, you went far and kept many things in mind to make all the aspects perfect.
    Awesome!

  • @rwinkdopey
    @rwinkdopey 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    The ability to plug-in an optional water sensor would be nice.
    Back in the late 90's and early 00's, the company I worked for used devices that were POE, as well as they supported a barrel power connector, that came with the temperature and humidity built into the unit however the units also had two ports, RJ45, to plug-in external purchasable sensors that included temperature (food grade sensors were available), water, CO2 and fire as I recall.
    They were not cheap but they did have a local HTTP server that provided a graph over time, up to a year as I recall, of the sensors reading as well as SNMP.
    The company would record the data into OSISoft-Pi so that the data could be recorded for the long-term.
    The issue was keeping up with the firmware updates to patch the device against vulnerabilities.

    • @trizedlyza
      @trizedlyza 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      Probably where esp boards with webserver would be better since they wouldn't need firmware updates but would need a server like one Pi to probe them and collect data. That's what I've been doing for years, several cheap esp boards and one Pi.

  • @DG8RS
    @DG8RS 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    Somewhere, out there in the wild, an AVtech engineer is crying right now 😄 Great job on this thing!

  • @krakakapaul7395
    @krakakapaul7395 21 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Make sure you use non flammable plastic and inherently self extinguishing while it does not smoke.
    You don’t want to use plastic in a server room that keeps burning when it melts like most 3D printed plastics. A burning sensor could easily turn in to a burning liquid that get sucked into a server and keeps burning inside a server.

  • @ghostdirector
    @ghostdirector 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    Love this project. May I offer some little options
    1. Add in a screw terminal that can add in an external probe on a wire
    2. Screw terminal inside to add a battery
    3. Expose at least one output so it could be used to trigger an external relay
    Not saying you should develop the fw for these, your community will do that. :)
    Love it anyway and want a half dozen

    • @uiopuiop3472
      @uiopuiop3472 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      mr ohio (of my bosch) sayd the folliwing: now i am repping the 3d prainting

  • @phantoslayer9332
    @phantoslayer9332 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Dude, you have done what so many other companies have called impossible. It’s so impressive I wanna buy one, I don’t even have a server-

  • @frankkaplan5811
    @frankkaplan5811 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +18

    Way to go Jeff!!!! Glad to hear that TH-cam will NOT be your ownly bit of income. This way you may be able to get server day Tuesday more than one time a month!!! And perhaps in more expensive configs!

    • @CraftComputing
      @CraftComputing  25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      I love new server day 😁

  • @brooksmatthewjohn
    @brooksmatthewjohn 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

    I see so many possibilities with this and Home Assistant

  • @Leo-bk4me
    @Leo-bk4me วันที่ผ่านมา

    Sounds great. I am impressed how not scummy it sounds. No crowdfund no usless infos

  • @makingtechsense126
    @makingtechsense126 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I hope this takes off. As someone who has looked for exactly this for decades I am glad you went out and made it.

  • @allday_af
    @allday_af 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +8

    I usually just log IPMI intake temps via SNMP from the servers, it's a close enough approximation of the room temp as you are primarily concerned about a relative change. Humidity though, that's a game changer!

    • @danlandia4399
      @danlandia4399 20 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      yeah, just average all the (still responding) intake temps and you're good. Don't need yet another device.

  • @aarcaneorg
    @aarcaneorg 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +7

    Things I'd like to see, at a glance:
    * airflow, particulate count, humidity, co², and aqi sensors as well
    * the sensor placed in gap, the body attached to the rack post
    * matter/thread and either zigbee or zwave support
    * a serial and ssh based "streaming" data mode, that just spews the temperature in a machine parseable way, because that may actually be useful for one of my monitoring tools
    * a qt based (read: cross platform) GUI tool to scan and save the MAC addresses and set WiFi parameters, in bulk or single, making it easy to deploy or reconfigure 1 to 1000 of them.

    • @aarcaneorg
      @aarcaneorg 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

      Stretch goal: snmp config from DHCP or TFTP pxe style setup!

    • @CraftComputing
      @CraftComputing  25 วันที่ผ่านมา +10

      Ooo, DHCP config is a great idea.

    • @2008mjb
      @2008mjb 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@CraftComputing Similar to how call home is configured for UniFi equipment based on a DHCP variable. You could set your v1, 2c, etc based on the variable. That is a really good idea. It would allow mass updates without setting up write access for maintaining security.

  • @Hephaestus93
    @Hephaestus93 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Just grabbed two from the shop. I love that its super simple. I think I need about 10 of them. Shed, attic, well pump-house, cellar, top network of rack, hot side of rack, cold side of rack and on an on. So excited!

  • @VelcorHF
    @VelcorHF 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    This is genius. I can’t wait to see all the craft computing gear you develop for home labbers.

  • @anothersiguy
    @anothersiguy 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +3

    This is awesome, +1 for a PoE version. We used RoomAlert sensors and now Meraki MT10s which inexplicably only run off Type C or AA batteries. Rack mount and magnetic option would be cool too.

  • @samiraperi467
    @samiraperi467 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +13

    First?!
    I have a pile of cheap Tuya-compatible temp+humidity sensors that talk to Home Assistant. Right now I can tell that it's more humid than yesterday so I have a valid reason to feel uncomfortable.
    Is that sensor a BME280 by any chance?

    • @JeffGeerling
      @JeffGeerling 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +9

      Yeah I currently have some Zigbee sensors in my server closet, and Home Assistant alerts me when I forget to leave the door cracked and it gets beyond 100F in there :)
      I don't do much SNMP but I know a lot of people still do, like in radio/telecom, it's everywhere.

    • @hachikiina
      @hachikiina 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      it does look like BME/BMP series

  • @dlsniper
    @dlsniper 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is awesome! Congratulations, and good luck with this!

  • @Fragdemented
    @Fragdemented 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I've literally for the last 6-ish months using my spare time at work to wrap my head around a Raspberry pi Pico to build something for this exact reason! I will be buying these. Amazing work!

  • @davidg5898
    @davidg5898 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +6

    It's a great idea! So much network stuff comes with the "industrial tax" -- upcharged just because medium/big companies are used to overpaying for everything IT.
    If you're targeting corporate environments with this, I hope your timeline includes securing the firmware update process. As is, physical access would allow easy upload of custom/malicious firmware.

    • @CptPatch
      @CptPatch 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I agree with the sentiment, but what device in your server room ISN'T subject to a factory reset and arbitrary software if somebody has unfettered physical access? The firmware update is a low level function of the Raspberry Pi in general, so I'm unsure how much ability he would have to require signed software or anything like that. I think a good basic step that would remove all but the craziest edge cases would be to wipe wifi passwords and community strings after a firmware update.

    • @joshua7551
      @joshua7551 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      In the cybersec world, you have to assume that physical acces is root access. Key siging the firmware would be nice, but ultimately, people shouldnt be able to walk into your server room.

    • @davidg5898
      @davidg5898 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

      ​@@CptPatch An off-the-shelf Pico can be reflashed and brought back online in under a minute. It has absolutely zero security. Comparing that to the hoops you have to jump through (or bypass) in other network/server hardware is a bit disingenuous.
      He said he's going to have a custom PCB for the final version. So just don't implement a "push to flash" button and don't expose the RP2040's SWD pins on the PCB. Then add a solid password/signing algorithm to any OTA flashing capability you give it.
      It's not Fort Knox level security, but those 2 things would harden it enough to satisfy the vast majority of small and medium sized companies.

    • @davidg5898
      @davidg5898 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@joshua7551 Physical access _plus time_ is root access.
      You want to slow an attacker down enough that the risk of being caught outweighs the perceived payoff.
      For a small-to-mid sized company, you don't need NSA level protocols to achieve that.

    • @varno
      @varno 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      ​@davidg5898 I like that there is no ota update access to this.

  • @paulstubbs7678
    @paulstubbs7678 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Surprised temp sensors are so expensive. Years ago I obtained a few multi channel data loggers, surplus to requirements where I worked (telco). I have one in my rack that monitors the temp there, and at several places around my house. I've years and years of temperature logs, more to see how the house insulation performs etc etc. although I also plan to one day get it monitoring electrical power and backup battery status.
    Your units look nice and simple, I thought it a feature that it uses a standard off the shelf 'pi pico board (never heard them called a dev board) as it would be easy to swap out should it fail. However having a Ethernet port would be handy in a server rack. One limitation of the 'Pi pico board is the onboard WiFi antenna, no provision for an external one should you desire to put the device inside somewhere where you know the WiFi will be seriously degraded.
    It would be nice if you did some video's on SNMP, I've never seen any info about it, or how to access it. I have a board for a UPS that probably does all you talked about, but I have absolutely no idea how to talk to it.
    Actually I pulled the option card slot out of my APC UPS and used the space for an external battery connector, after seeing this maybe I should rethink that move and put that Anderson plug somewhere else.

  • @TechnoRhino
    @TechnoRhino 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Dude this is incredible; congratulations and I hope you see massive success from this!

  • @mspencerl87
    @mspencerl87 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great work! Indeed this has been sorely needed all round. I'll def be getting some around Christmas!

  • @Jaska1
    @Jaska1 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    Wouldn't using micro controller boards be cheaper? ESP32, ESP8266 + DHT22,DHT11 sensor for example?

    • @JeffGeerling
      @JeffGeerling 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

      The Pico is a microcontroller in the same price range. Honestly ESP or Pico are pretty comparable in both price and support these days.

    • @FLECOM
      @FLECOM 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +5

      @@JeffGeerling ya but there are already PoE ESP boards available off the shelf, just add a temp/humidity sensor install tasmota on it and you are good to go for less than this

    • @Jaska1
      @Jaska1 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @@JeffGeerling You're right, I had this vague memory that they were alot more expensive

    • @CraftComputing
      @CraftComputing  25 วันที่ผ่านมา

      @flecom If I use an off the shelf solution, I'm restricted to using only that to sell my end product. Great for small batch runs, not so great if I'm hoping to sell thousands.

    • @JeffGeerling
      @JeffGeerling 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      @@FLECOM There are a couple Pico PoE boards too (like W5100S-EVB-Pico), and I think Raspberry Pi even built a version that's sadly only available to industrial partners in bulk quantities. PoE rocks

  • @Alex_whatever
    @Alex_whatever 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +4

    No IPv6?

  • @jrm523
    @jrm523 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Love this! Keep up the great work. You are doing this right by taking an iterative approach.

  • @TheInternalNet
    @TheInternalNet 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Hell yes Jeff. This is something I have been thinking about. I'm so excited to have such an enthusiast behind this.
    Congratulations man.

  • @abeljleyva
    @abeljleyva 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is waaaaay awesome. I love seeing stuff like this happen and develop!!

  • @Yuriel1981
    @Yuriel1981 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This may be the biggest small project ever. All the genius ideas are simple. I love this. Even if i have an open basement rack with no worries of temperature issues!

  • @Mr.D.J.Anderson
    @Mr.D.J.Anderson 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I love this, not a me product but a simple resolution to an expensive problem. Thank You x.

  • @lukasyelle4708
    @lukasyelle4708 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great product and super reasonable pricing targets! Thanks for always contributing to the community in such an incredible fashion! Will be looking to order some of these for my lab!

  • @ryannaylor3398
    @ryannaylor3398 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I need this! Ordered and now impatiently waiting for it to arrive!

  • @m4dizzle
    @m4dizzle 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Love the idea! My wishlist would include magnetic mount, battery power option, PoE variant, auto-config via DHCP, F instead of C option, push to collector instead of pull via SNMP, documentation from out of box to Grafana dashboards

  • @BradleyBrown
    @BradleyBrown 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Very cool, and well thought out!

  • @n3m37h
    @n3m37h 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I can not wait for the finished product, I've been looking for such a thing for a while now to keep record of the temps in my fermenting room and cooler.
    As much as I would love to beta test, there are much more experienced people who will be better than I

  • @Jollyroger1096
    @Jollyroger1096 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Thank you so much. I too am a Network and Server Manager. I've been looking for something just like this.
    Can't wait to get my hands on your POE version.

  • @RetroTinkerer
    @RetroTinkerer 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice, I always love when content creators use to some extent the product or services of their sponsors, hope it all goes great with your project.

  • @TerenceKearns
    @TerenceKearns 20 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice work. Looking forward to the final product.

  • @David_Ladd
    @David_Ladd 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Product looks great @CraftComputing
    Thank you for sharing this video :)

  • @Jody_VE5SAR
    @Jody_VE5SAR 22 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    +1 for SNMP v3, traps, and PoE. Great project!

  • @andjohn
    @andjohn 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Super cool. Good work man.

  • @techdaddykb
    @techdaddykb 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Rather than FDM 3D printing, I think SLA Resin would be awesome for this, you can print them on edge and print a full plate of them in the same time as a single one. The finish is great too with minimal post processing after washing/curing.

    • @CraftComputing
      @CraftComputing  24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      I love 3D printing. I love FDM... not a huge fan of SLA, especially for dimensionality and accurate fitment.
      Now SLS on the other hand.... I wouldn't mind doing a production run of sintered nylon.

  • @andresvanvliet3413
    @andresvanvliet3413 16 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This looks awesome!
    From a corporate standpoint, I need a few things:
    A-POE.
    B-version with no wifi (wifi will get it banned).
    C-SNMPv3.
    D-over the wire updates.
    E-tiny LCD showing the temp being reported (so I can verify the intern is investigating the correct IDF)
    Thanks!

  • @billnoname8093
    @billnoname8093 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    thanks, just found your channel and it's just what I needed as I'm starting a home server build. I like the temperature sensor also, that can be useful in other applications.

  • @DavidHunterChunkyRiffs
    @DavidHunterChunkyRiffs 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great idea! I'll be trying one out for sure

  • @dankosek4274
    @dankosek4274 15 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Well done. Making an SNMP user friendly device for the end user is smart. I wish you great success.

  • @MikeMerola
    @MikeMerola 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Just bought 2, I see these selling out fast. Wi-Fi enabled SNMP temp sensors that are prebuilt, easily configured, and in a portable little case are definitely something I have been looking for for quite some time. Monitoring my server rack and other IT projects is one major use case, but also for some data projects for AC issues and home hot spots, as well as to make a convenient dashboard monitor for ambient temperature in different rooms for generic tracking purposes.
    The POE options for the upcoming final version are very enticing. Especially if there end up being some bulk deals available once you go mass production, I can see utilizing something like this heavily for business projects. The generic SNMP, non-specific to any particular smart ecosystem is very attractive.
    Excellent work, and I look forward to testing these beta units!

    • @CraftComputing
      @CraftComputing  25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Thanks! And yes, I do plan on offering deals for bulk deployments once the retail version launches.

  • @Brian-L
    @Brian-L 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Wow, nice job Jeff! I had long been planning to tackle this very challenge using the ESP32 platform and an e-ink display. Then I came across the Xiaomi Mijia LYWSD03MMC BLE environmental sensors. Went the route of setting up a RaspPI as BLE hub with bluepy3 and snmpmoni. Now the entire house plus the server rack is instrumented. Wishing you all the best with this well designed endeavor.

  • @martinhermsen1518
    @martinhermsen1518 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great idea, when i built my own low voltage UPS i added temperature monitoring too. I missed it, but it is always great to share the work and create an open source project out of it, then it will maybe live for a long time

  • @DeFi-Macrodosing
    @DeFi-Macrodosing 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    That's cool, man. Product development is hard work, so hats off to you. Good luck with your product launch!

  • @karimshakirov
    @karimshakirov 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great!
    Evident and straightforward value proposition!

  • @TonyWilliamson77
    @TonyWilliamson77 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice work Jeff. A Couple of years ago I was going down the same path using Raspberry PI, Thermal Probes, Python and Grafana. You nailed it without over complicating it and keeping it engineering at heart. Look forward to seeing the finished product.

  • @Graham_Rule
    @Graham_Rule 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ourageous!!! I watched right to the end and didn't see any beer and you deserve at least a couple for all that work.

    • @CraftComputing
      @CraftComputing  24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

      Many beers were consumed during the creation of this device 😉

  • @sinisterautoworx6668
    @sinisterautoworx6668 9 วันที่ผ่านมา

    I like this, the fact that this has a hygrometer/humidity sensor is awesome. I live in Australia and humidity can be a huge problem for electronics causing rust and corrosion. Would also be great for monitoring terrariums for reptiles/amphibians also as temperature/humidity are important. Well done

  • @oscarcharliezulu
    @oscarcharliezulu 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Ok I’m in. Ordered! I’m looking forward to a POE version as well as other awesome devices in the future. This is brilliant!

  • @Bottacco
    @Bottacco 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great idea!!!… I hope you develop more productos like this in the future

  • @DJBounceBack
    @DJBounceBack 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Great stuff. Congratulations

  • @angelgonzalez2379
    @angelgonzalez2379 21 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Cool, nice to see you branching out.

  • @duodream
    @duodream 3 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Had the same problem about 15 years ago, and there weren't many options around. I remember finding a small standalone device with SNMP and the ability to send its own email alerts if it didn't get a regular request from the monitoring server, it was around $75 and was worth every penny in the small server closets with single cooling systems. The devices I see today are super expensive and not that feature-rich.

  • @PCBWay
    @PCBWay 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    That's the MOMENT!! 🎉🎉

  • @cypherian2
    @cypherian2 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    NEAT! I like this idea a lot! Oh, and you just got yourself a new subsrciber!

  • @hudsonreynolds4349
    @hudsonreynolds4349 18 วันที่ผ่านมา

    So cool. Very impressed. Love to see it. I LOLed at the 3d printed case failure dump, I relate heavily. Sometime it takes 30 tries, I understand. Looking forward to more products

  • @TheRowie75
    @TheRowie75 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice work man!

  • @zedmanauk
    @zedmanauk 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just bought one! I'm putting together an office shed and this will be very useful for monitoring temps when I'm not in there. 😁

  • @minikindaniil99
    @minikindaniil99 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    That's some nice project. I have some thoughts about possible upgrades you can consider for future versions:
    1. SMBus/PMBus integration. Mcu can pretend to be some well supported temperature sensor.
    2. Multiple channels/extension modules. For monitoring i.e. exhaust temperature or support for multiple thermocouples or ntc/ptc that are easy to stick to the device of interest.
    Maybe monitor more parameters.
    3. Air quality: i suspect you are using bme280 or similar, afaik bme680 can also measure air quality. Maybe even add specific gas sensors like co2.
    4. Vibration sensinng using accelerometer. Will it be possible to see hdd detoriarion?
    5. Tof/proximity sensor for intrusion detection. Or magnetometer from accelerometer/magnetometer combo should be able to sense rack door position.
    6. Light sensor? I don't know why but it is very easy to add photoresitor.
    7. Power monitoring via current transformer should be achievable without the need to touch high voltage stuff.
    8. Rudimentary noise level measurements.
    9. Maybe ability to log serial output for troubleshooting?
    This list is from the saying "Your Scientists Were So Preoccupied With Whether Or Not They Could, They Didn't Stop To Think If They Should"

  • @theburntcrumpet8371
    @theburntcrumpet8371 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Nice to finally see somebody making temperature sensors cool

  • @marioStortuga
    @marioStortuga 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Congrats one your new product

  • @MikeGalusha
    @MikeGalusha 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This looks great. Ordered one for the home lab, really looking forward to a PoE version I can add to a server rack.

  • @dsngjoe2
    @dsngjoe2 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is great. Currently I use a pi-3 with the sense Hat module. I designed and 3d printed a custom case to fit perfectly in top of the rack. The lcd scrolls the temp / humidity and barometric information. It also runs a server and displays the information if I type the ip of the pie-3.

    • @intrax2tv
      @intrax2tv 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Would you make this an open source project on github ?

  • @chrissydnor151
    @chrissydnor151 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Badass sir, great idea

  • @JordansTechJunk
    @JordansTechJunk 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    This is great, Going through the big providers, monitoring probes can be $200+ and it requires a network card which is another $300+. Good work!

  • @RuddODragonFear
    @RuddODragonFear 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Axe Effect should support Prometheus metrics scraping as this is the standard.

  • @GoPlayMLP
    @GoPlayMLP 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Can't tell you, how happy I am for you! I really really hope, this takes off. I'm already forwarding this video to some Server Admins / IT-Folk I know.
    Are you planning on shipping internationally? I'm talking EU at least.
    All the best and good luck with the launch!

    • @CraftComputing
      @CraftComputing  24 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Thanks!!
      We are shipping internationally. Rates are a bit expensive since I have such low volume right now. If we end up moving tons of units, I’m going to work on regional distribution… but that’s way down the road.

  • @mausball
    @mausball 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    I've been using temp and humidity monitoring with the management cards in my APC UPSs for decades. It's super reliable and dead simple, especially if you're OK with buying used parts.

    • @jeffm6767
      @jeffm6767 7 วันที่ผ่านมา

      Exactly. The Axe Effect is very cool, he did good. I want one! But when people complain about "industry tax" that includes things like a metal chassis, UL Listing, and not powered by a phone charger.

  • @IanBPPK
    @IanBPPK 22 วันที่ผ่านมา

    My work sorted this out with Raritan 1U iPDUs, as we had some camera boxes we needed to power cycle on occasion (lo and behold we havent had a problem since 😂), got the temp and humidity sensor for the platform and placed in good spots for ambient temperature. Readings have been helpful, but I'd have considered these as an alternative if we were still looking.

  • @PrimalNaCl
    @PrimalNaCl 25 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Just ordered 4 of them. These will be a start on replacing my Aquara temp sensors. No hub, no range issues due to problematic and anemic RF tech, just standard infrastructure needed. And it supports snmp. Looking forward to snmp v3 support.

  • @matthewgregory395
    @matthewgregory395 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Cant wait see more of this :)

  • @jonfernandez4933
    @jonfernandez4933 24 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    Me and my wife own our own ISP and I would love POE and DC models for network cabinets and enclosures we don't have any WiFi in any locations we also location string on SNMP for where there at since we are in 3 USA states and one Mexico state so that's the other important feature

  • @K2_Chris
    @K2_Chris 23 วันที่ผ่านมา

    This is really cool, I always wanted to build something like this for our network closets. As other options were so $$$$

  • @Max78224
    @Max78224 22 ชั่วโมงที่ผ่านมา

    At the Company I work we have a small Zigbee Network for the server room monitoring, with smoke detector, water detector and a combined temperature and humidity sensor. It's really cheap in setup and works great

  • @terrorpup
    @terrorpup 25 วันที่ผ่านมา +2

    LOL, Axe Effect sounds a bit like Axe Body Spray. Awesome job @craftcomputing, nice to see someone use the pico board for something else that Nintendo Cube replacement. I love to work one with Check_Mk.

  • @jamescarrico1233
    @jamescarrico1233 24 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Congratulations Jeff
    I'm sure it's gonna be a smash hit
    Good luck!

  • @CarlKettler
    @CarlKettler 17 วันที่ผ่านมา

    Other uses: Package it up to keep a long term log and advertise to wine collectors who want to monitor their home wine cellar. Send SMS temperature alarms so if the homeowner is on vacation and the cellar gets too warm or too dry, he/she knows to get someone to the house while they're out of town.