Bought one of these a couple of months ago and absolutely love it. As Andy said no more worries about your expensive phone getting damaged. The device itself is completely waterproof, tough and very portable. Battery life is amazing. Also I can see the screen in all lights. Best £150 I ever spent. And yes Andy did forget to talk about the directional feature and the fact that it will reroute you if you missed your turn. Beeline do a great little video explaining everything. Thanks for reviewing TMF.
You've got too much money, congratulations........and secondly, see the comments by other users who claim it cannot tell difference between a left turn off, and the road turning left.
@@tonebonetones "you've got too much money". What an unnecessary and shitty comment. I bought the Beeline, love it and said so and why. Now you have a nice day son.
Such a good piece of kit, been using it for 12 months now and it’s god for Sports bikes and tourers. Plotting your own route is excellent and keeping a record of where you have been. Excellent review by TMF
Awesome! You and I are about the same age so that little tiny thing has changed from when you’d fold up a map and stick into the clear waterproof cover of a tank bag.... 👍😎
I’ve had my Beeline for almost a year and the dedicated SatNav has not been used once since, even on tour. One point I think you missed is that the app does not use much of your phones power as you do not need the phones screen on while navigating. I found a full day on the bike with the beeline running only used about 30% of my iPhone charge. This is of course without having to charge the phone on the move. Other than that, a great review.
Just revisiting this video after the prompt from Andy's latest sponsorship announcement. I am interested, but concerned about how it performs at night. Any comments? Like the concept, battery life, general design, but just the one question.
I got talking to s fellow biker in Crewe (on my way back from Cotswolds) the other day & he showed me the BeeLine device which I'd never heard of (I'd been looking at dedicated bike satnavs & had been put off by the costs). I was impressed & I've ordered one. I look forward to using it on my summer bike rides. I could've done with it the previous weekend when I met up with our group of biking bellringers in the Cotswolds. I did struggle with navigation between venues & again on my subsequent bike rides on my own when I stayed on for a few days. On my way home (Yorkshire) I resorted to written notes taped to the tank. (It did work!) Thank you for your review, very helpful!
A great review TMF of a great product. Had one myself since May. Bought the gunmetal metal cased version, as I manage to drop stuff regularly! 🤪. I am amazed at the negativity some people have about the beeline on the comments. As always, it’s personal choice. I love how discreet this is and I don’t want to put my phone, shaking about on the handlebars. I also find the beeline far less distracting than a traditional sat nav screen and love the lack of voice commands - allows you to enjoy the ride a lot more and see more! One thing not mentioned in the video is the ‘non route’ mode - love this mode! You can put your destination in, but make your own way there with no fixed route, allowing you to explore different roads and villages in your own time and find new places / pubs! My partner loves that and is what makes biking more interesting for her! Great device, happy with the price and the freedom it gives to go a lot further afield without being obtrusive.
Brilliant! That's on my wishlist! Thank you mr Flyer. The jacket without armpur is clever since I use a Knox "underwear" with protection. Which is the best piece of kit ever.
I love my Beeline Moto. I didn't want a full blown sat nav, I just wanted a means of plotting a route on the app, adding waypoints as required, and then just enjoying the ride. It has a compass mode as well as a route mode. It also has an auto back-light, it turns on when it gets dark or you can turn it on manually. In the box it also comes with other fittings. Its not to everyone's taste, some rider's love large satnavs, for me its perfect. You can also upload GPX files to your phone and then navigate routes that way as well. I have mine mounted on a go-pro handlebar bracket, the adapter is standard in the box. Enjoyed your review 👍
I've been using one of these since they came out as a kickstarter style campaign. I've been generally very pleased with it and it's perfect if you want something unobtrusive. Looks better on my vespa than full featured satnav too. Replaced my tomtom with it and haven't missed it.
I saw the first Beeline vids by the manufacturer when the product was "brand fire" new. Then I watched a few reviews, and decided it wasn't "Tekky" enough for me, and the device didn't provide enough info, but I have to say Andy, that's the best review I have seen to date, and your efforts with the cam, to show the display on the Beeline are really appreciated at my end. Now, with errrrrrrm - a few bikes (don't ask), this is a great device to have in the pocket to connect so damn easily with a couple of "laggy bands". I'd resisted for over a year as per the above comments - but I'll be having one now for sure. Thanks mate - really good review 👍
These are really good and do save your phone's camera from vibration damage to the optical stabilisation. I never ride without it and have the handlebar and elastic mount as well as the ball mount.
Lord knows how i wound up looking at a review of a bike satnav but I have to say, this video is super well put together and presented. More enjoyable to watch than a satnav video has any right to be!!
Another positive I can think of is: Where I’m from we have long curving country roads that are wooded and sometimes have steep drop-offs. If you’re alone and for some reason you go off road and become incapacitated from injury it’s way better to have you phone on your person in order to call for help.
Holy cow! Finally someone else is pointing this out with me! I can’t believe no one else is really pointing this out. Even if your not injured, your phone is probably going for a short flight and then you’re playing Easter egg hunt.
By far the best online review of this gadget ....all the other reviews are non instructional and boring. I purchased one on the strength of this review and I couldn't be happier ...a great tip on the vibration that causes damage to my iPhone as I had the same issue. This little gem is not really a touring product although it could be used for touring at a push. The Beeline is a super product and brilliantly reviewed...THANKS
@@TheMissendenFlyer I have been watching your reviews most of the day ...loved the 3 part NC 500 review. I think Henry Cole should be very worried as think you would make a super presenter. ...Good luck to you Sir !
This is really cool! I'll have to save this for when I can get another motorcycle. I could probably use this in my car too. Thanks for making a video about this.
It works well in a car as well. You can either use the Beeline jobby or the phone or both. Maybe the phone in “map” and the Beeline as standard. The supplementary mount supplied as standard uses the same connection format as GpPro’s so the mounting options are numerous.
Been thinking about the Beeline for a few months now and you tipped me over so glad you get a bit of bunce out of it. With Covid etc, looking to use the bike to see clients in London and reduce using public transport for a while.
The directional function is great for those exploring or not too bothered about accuracy in directions. Nice to know roughly what direction/distance you need to go in while enjoying the ride with no restrictions.
A great review. Obviously there are a limits to what you can include in a video of this length. The things not mentioned include the ability to modify the default route by inserting way points, the “non route mode” where you decide the route and the Beeline gives you distance and direction. The beasty also has backlighting, manual or automatic. The app gives you the ability to import GPX files and will also automatically share files with your iPad and iPhone. Lastly, the biggest thing is that you I can try the device without buying it. Download the app and run it without the device. Use the tutorial to learn how to make routes and then the Beeline display will be shown on your phone. That can be used in a car, on a bus or on your bike. I’m a great fan of Beeline and the thing that I most appreciate is that navigation is reduced to the basics; how far is the next turn, which direction and “are we nearly there yet?”
Thanks for that lot Trevor - I've been using mine since February and didn't know some of that! I'll pin your comment if you don't mind as this is good info...
Excellent. I never knew these existed. Think it looks really smart and I've now done a bit of research on them, I think its a class product. I'll be getting one. The compass mode looks like fun too !
What a brilliant gadget. With most bike sat-navs being prohibitive expensive, I've always relied upon the Tom-tom on my phone, however it drains the battery on my phone fairly rapidly and there's always the nagging worry that it might fall out of the holder on bumpy roads. This product looks like a perfect solution.
This feature is built into the KTM TFT as standard "KTM MY Ride", though the phone app costs £7.99 which grates a bit after spending £10,000 on a bike.
I got one earlier this year too and it’s been great. Cheaper than something like a Garmin and no faffy wires to connect to the bike battery or anything like that. I’ve explored a ton of a little country roads this year that I’d previously avoided for fear of getting hopelessly lost! I guess my one minor criticism is sometimes it doesn’t know the difference between a left turn and a left bend... it might tell you continue for 5 miles but then you find you’ve gone off route because you followed the road but it wanted you to make a turn that it thought was a continuation of the road. All that said, it’s obvious when it’s happened, do a quick u-turn and all is good. I’m not sure how confident I’d be using it round a busy city centre in rush hour because of the basic display, but for leisure riding I highly recommend it
>Cheaper than something like a Garmin and no faffy wires to connect to the bike battery or anything like that. Not so sure about that. I am using a 2nd hand eTrex20 ($30) which is a little bit bigger, but has a proper navigation system and doesn't rely on my phones battery and bluetooth. Ah, and yes, i have to replace the two AA batteries every week. ;-)
That's my experience of it too. And because you don't actually have the route displayed in front of you, it isn't possible to make intuitive decisions about the route you are being taken on.
I have just purchased the beeline moto after watching your review!! Used for a couple of nice little journeys!! What a cracking bit of kit, fantastic review and video as always!!
Just ordered a twin pack for my father and I using the link. Early christmas present. Love the simple design and instructions. I like actually using my brain when riding so this suits me perfectly. Plus, I've had enough of sending my iPhone XR to apple for the camera to be repaired.
Too expensive for me, I’ll stick to my map, but to be honest I’m a retired lorry driver, and after 40 Years of driving 12 hours a day and probably 3 million miles I’ve a pretty good idea where I’m going, plus I find when I have used a Satnav it always takes me the long way round 🤣😂 I think Young people rely too much on satnav’s, having said that Sky Demon is great when flying light aircraft as you will know 😉👍
@siemenssx1 I use a map or have a quick look at Google maps on my iPad before I set off, if I click on the roads I need, I can usually get a picture reference, so when I get there I recognise my surroundings, it always works for me, if you plan your Journey before you set off, you won’t get lost, but you can’t get lost on a small Island like UK 😂🇬🇧👍
How much! F me you can get a fully operational Tom Tom (other makes available) for that and look good too and presentable. I usually agree with your findings Tmf but not things time - thanks but no thanks.
Yes this is a really neat solution to that problem, doesn't look out of place on handlebars and gives you enough info to get you where you want to go...I love mine!
Morning, thanks for the review. Does it constantly use your phone data whilst riding, or does it just use that little bit of data when you upload the map in the first instance?
I suspect it uses it all the time - there is no map uploaded to the device, it's just a slave display....your phone is doing all the real work (this keeps it off your handlebars)...
Thanks for the reply, I guess this device is not for me then because at present my data package on my mobile is quite low and so I suspect a couple of uses would end up using my monthly allowance. Will look to upgrade once out of contract.
I’m not sure I agree with you. I think it gets the route uploaded to your phone when you set off and only looks to the phone if you go off-route to redirect you. If your phone was doing the work you’d have a flat phone battery in no time and in my experience that isn’t the case
Hey all! First of all, thanks to The Missenden Flyer for the review - we are totally chuffed :). Cheers. @Schuey, the app will use data if it needs to re-route you but if you are concerned about data use you can save all of your routes in the app in advance and then use your Beeline Moto with your phone in airplane mode (just Bluetooth needed). It won't re-route you if you take a wrong turn but it will route you back to where you went off track :)
@@ridebeeline Thanks, so I guess it uses data when you initially calculate the route before you set off, and then again if it needs to reroute. Otherwise, it just mirrors the route from your phone via Bluetooth to the device without a continuous drain on data?
I am not normally a compulsive buyer BUT I just purchased one. Exactly what I need. Thanks Andy. I just hope the package makes it all the way to New Zealand :)
I have a profound dislike of satnavs mounted where I have to take my eyes off the road. Best option is voice prompts to your helmet, or if you have to look at it at least have it in your peripheral vision not down on the ‘bars. It would be interesting to see a direct comparison between Beeline, Calimoto, phone apps & turn-by-turn on TFTs, and I wonder how long it will be before Cardo, Sena etc integrate a nav app into their products? But for the time being I will stick with the more functional Satnav I’ve already paid for!
I have my sat-nav in my car set to speak Flemish, she is called Anna or some such, reminds me of the 1980s porn videos of my youth. Alas, can't tell a word she says.
Good review TMF, thanks. I bought one of these a few months ago; first class piece of kit. I have a Guzzi V7 with clipons, so mounting anything on the dash is a challenge. Can just squeeze the Beeline onto the right clipon bar. In July/Aug I took the bike back to Mandello del Lario, via the B500 and Swiss passes for its 10 year anniversary. 11 days and 2,100 miles. I only charged the beeline three times. Four additions to your review based on my experience: (1) I found turn-by-turn navigation much less distracting than map-based navigation (2) the app is fab, it runs off my Google Maps app but the routing is 100 times more flexible, a real joy once you get the hang of it (3) long tunnels are a bit of a challenge (you drop signal, the distance countdown stops and there you wish you had a map as context) - Swiss tunnels with junctions in the tunnel or immediately after the tunnel were a bit disconcerting. Unlikely to be an issue in the UK though (4) a big caveat on the battery life - it's only as good as the battery life of your phone. My slightly old Galaxy S8 typically lasts around 14 hours for normal use, but regularly ran flat after about 5 hours of constant beeline use. I forgot my supplementary usb battery pack when I left London, which was entirely my fault - but it did lead to an amusing incident on the way home. Mandello to Bregenez via Davos (Stelvio was closed). Phone died just after Davos and I went from 21st Century navigation to stone age navigation in about 0.5second. I was left 3 hours, 4 countries and about 120miles with nothing but a rudimentary memory of the roads and the knowledge that I was heading vaguely North East (thankfully the sun was out). Anyway, not the Beeline's fault, and nothing that a paper map, a back up set of directions, a usb port or a battery pack couldn't cure. The Beeline really is great, just take back up power for your phone on a long trip.
Haha wow that sounds like a real adventure Jamie! Glad that you made it back in the end 😁 and that you're loving the Beeline Moto otherwise - thank you so much for buying one 🙌
@@ridebeeline it really is a great product, the first sat nav I've ever really wanted to take on a trip. Takes the stress out of the journey without getting in the way, and even looks nice on the bike, which I've never thought of any other device.
@@everythinggaming7938 it acts like a compass always pointing to your chosen destination but not giving turn by turn directions. This means you can find your own route without getting lost.
I bought one of these on the back of your review TMF and have to say what a cracking piece of kit. I’m not keen on having the iPhone on the handlebars as there’s potentially too many other distractions not to mention the damage risk through vibration. With this though it provides at a glance directional information and it works really well. I tend to know roughly where I’m going in the UK anyway so like the compass function that points you in the right direction of your destination. Been using it this week after lockdown restrictions have eased and really impressed. Simple to set up and mount although I must remember not to leave it on the bike when I go wandering off for a coffee break 👍
I find mine blends in with the bike handlebar just fine and do tend to leave it on the Speed Twin even when I park the bike (...famous last words now)....
Had one since April and can highly recommend. A few quirks: gets confused when phone has no signal (usually momentary), finicky when you miss a waypoint, not the best navigating complicated junctions and it's pricey. On the upside: screen is stunningly bright, form factor brilliant, easy to read and understand, can import GPX files. Anyone wanna buy my TomTom?
Excellent bit of kit, it'll definitely be on my Xmas list, the fact is small enough to carry on your pocket is a plus, the only thing is can you see this at night!.
Can anyone comment how this handles proper city driving? I would like one, but concerned it wouldn’t really work for me. What happens when you need to be in lane 2 with 4 options?! Seems like it only works on basic A and B roads... PS. Nice vid TMF, as always. Thanks.
Good question. A direct answer is that the Beeline icon will tell you what you have to do at the next junction. In this case it will be either a merge or filter to the left or right.
Nice. I’ve had my eye on the bee line for a while so it’s nice to see it in action. I love how simple it is. I don’t want a big gps strapped to my handlebars but I recon this would be perfect.
You didn’t mention the RAM mount option - comes with a standard RAM ball, and as you mentioned, you just twist it off it’s mounting plate and stick it in your pocket. Great device
Well you can do that and where I need full feature satnav (eg when I'm off-road) I do the same with an old phone - this though I find a neat and very portable solution, works very well for my particular use case where I need to quickly and easily move the nav between bikes....
@@TheMissendenFlyer Same with boats and chandlers. Top tip, when you need something non-nautical for a boat cabin, go to a caravan spares dealer and get the same item half price.
Such a great little unit, very cool and easy to use. You really have to try it to fully get it. Very intuitive and looks cooler than a massive unit mounted on your bars
I bought one of these just over 12 months ago & its exactly as you described Andy! It also works without Bluetooth. Put in your destination & just go! Great when there’s no coverage 😡👍🏼🇦🇺
Bought one recently and used it to get me into London, and from the bike shed to ace cafe. Once I got use to how it works (and went wrong a few times - my fault) it was great. Perfect for use on my Triumph as I didn’t want a sat nav or phone spoiling it’s look. Back lit for night time was really handy.
Just ordered one and I'm looking forward to using it soon,I've heard many phones have been damaged through vibration on motorcycles so didn't want to risk my new S21. Thanks for the Info TMF.
I just use google maps on my phone (whilst its in my pocket) with a bluetooth connection to my sena to give me voice directions whenever I need them - works brilliantly for me 👍 Great video though!
Just knowing that you have 6 bikes in your garage makes me feel less guilty about my humble 4, two of which are scooters. So thanks for that. Anyway, another great video. One of the things I appreciate about your videos is that you approach items like a normal guy, rather than as a pedant. Real world stuff. So (for example), when modding your Interceptor, it was step by step including the hard bits. Too many videos are "Then just remove the tank, open the valve cover, remove the cams, throw away the cam chain tensioner, grind down the exhaust cams, and you're all set. Easy."
Thank you Charles - I'm glad you think that, I am just the same as everyone else and hope my videos reflect life in the real world (rather than wheelie gods, track day gods, off road gods, engineering gods, etc).....
Really anthing that didn't mean proprietary app that gets shut off at somepoint. I'll still be ordering one I think, but yeah, would be better with just google maps/waze integration
@@jonpram1737 The main issue is that now this app needs to support good map material that is already available in other apps (waze/Google Maps).. Does Beeline use OSM? That might be useful as OSM can be edited by the community, but integrations like reports and traffic which waze/Google has will be missing, Does beeline have useful options for distinguishing different route types? (Calimoto, Kurviger).
They actually do have a backlight feature that comes on in the dark - you can also make it stay on in daylight to make it stand out more which I find helpful (although I'm sure this hits the very long battery life a bit). But picking aside, another great vid.
@@peterd3215 On mine, if you go to Settings, there is a Sun type logo shown at the top. Click on that and the display lights up. I would describe it as a backlight more than just a stronger screen setting, but I may be wrong . . . .
Are people aware that most phone mounts aren't secure enough to resist a crash? So when you need your phone most, i. e. to call for help after going down, you find an empty mount and have no idea where the phone got slung to. If this device helps keep your phone in a safe place, it's worth it's weight in gold.
I deleted my previous comment because there were some inaccuracies on my part, and then I got an email with your response (which I believe is also gone). Sorry for that, it wasn't on purpose but just a case of bad timing. Anyway, the gist of my comment is that I find it too expensive for the little convenience it brings. I said in my comment that I think there's a lot of shortcomings with this device, most notably no voice instructions and no backlit screen (how do you use it at night?), and also that other more complete solutions exist for not much more money (cheap smartphone just for nav, smartwatch, your phone on the pocked with voice guidance...). I'd also like to say that my opinion is obviously opposite of yours, and that's fine - I'm not downplaying your opinion, I'm just expressing mine. What I find disappointing is when you said you only made the video because you like the device. Why wouldn't you make a video if you disliked it?! That's how you stay credible.
Because I waned to spread the word for a gadget I've found to be useful...I assumed others may find it useful too. I had no issue with your previous comment, there was no need to delete it! All the best...TMF
I’ve got one of these, it’s a great product! One word of caution, although the beeline has a great battery life, but you do need to make sure your phone is charged. If your phone dies so does the beeline.
I really like my Beeline. Think it is much safer than a sat nav as the display is so instinctive and simpler to follow. Less time is needed looking at it. You can plan a interesting route by putting in as many way points as you like on the app. It also uses hardly Amy battery or data on your Android or i phone. It comes as std with a longer hinged strick/bolt on mount. Bolt on handle bar and a selection of other mounts are sold separately. 😎
Nicely demonstrated TMF. I'm a fan of simplicity and have been curious about the Beeline since it was a kickstarter project. I just can't get past the idea of being on a French autoroute, approaching a complicated multiple exit with only a floating arrow and dot to help me decipher it. Then being forced onto a toll road that locks me into a 30 mile detour in the wrong direction and spits me out in "Deliverance" territory, in the fog, down a hole, with an owl (Fast Show reference).
Hey Paul! We heard this loud and clear from our beta testers so we released it with some extra symbols for exactly that type of scenario 😊. You can find out more about those here: ridebeeline.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/77000227608-following-directions-on-beeline-moto
@@ridebeeline Very interesting! I've been impressed with the improvements you've made but wasn't aware of this latest update. I'll give the phone app another go. Certainly find the device appealing.
@@paulstredwick Ah! I think that that will be it - the phone app is not yet designed to be used standalone so doesn't have all of the same features (incl. junction indicators) as the device itself. We are releasing big app update in the next couple of months that will change this! Are you on our mailing list? That's the best way to stay in the loop :)
i got one of those, it's really sweet. i actually left it on my bike for a night in a really sketchy street and no one bothered ;) also, sometimes i just put the northern most point as reference and use it as a compass. :)
Hi TMF, just ordered a BeeLine Nav, I've been looking for something similar to this size and this fits what I need. I too have had an iPhone camera go bad on me because of vibration. Thanks for sharing this device.
Thanks for the review. I used one of these for my trip from Andalucia to Sussex and back with very mixed results. I had errors of up to 400m at times and since my phone was running side by side with the Beeline running Google Maps (Faultlessly I might add) I could see the error in real time. 400m error of course made the Beeline useless and it got me completely lost in the middle of Burgos. The device itself is fine, it is the software app that is crap. Why they don't just configure it as a display for Google Maps is beyond me. For those who say why not just use the phone the answer is strong sunlight and those who say Bluetooth voice instructions that is illegal in France. So a good reflective display is a good idea. Shame about the software.
Hey M Holbrook! Oh no :(. Sorry to hear that. It sounds something was going a bit wrong there - we would suspect the GPS reading on your phone but it is interesting that Google Maps was bang on. Please could you shoot us an email at support@beeline.co? We can have a look into it if you like and see what might be going wrong. We'd love to get you Beelining better!
Hi Beeline, you know me perfectly well. I contacted you reporting the 400m error when I was lost in Northern Spain using the Beeline. And yes, the phone with Google Maps was bang on. I also reported an exact location of a 400m error in Sussex, you told me the app needed replacing. Mathew is my contact.
I bought one of these recently and have not done about 200 miles with it. I love it! So much more subtle and discrete than having my phone mounted on the bars, plus my phone stays safely tucked away in my pocket. The Beeline Moto uses a fraction of my phones battery, and fits in my pocket when not in use. It took a little while to get used to not seeing the shape of the road ahead, but once you learn to trust it, it's clear and effective. Cost me £150 and is well worth it.
Good review. Perfect nav system when you have no specific route in mind - only a general direction of where you want to go. I found using my phone too much of a distraction and rather focus on riding. Using the Beeline I pay more attention to the ride.
I've been mulling over buying the Blue Tooth module for my Triumph Scrambler 1200XC. It's roughly $100 more than the Beeline, but I wouldn't have to mount anything additional on my handlebar if I go with the Blue Tooth module (it uses the TFT display already on the bike as I'm sure you're already aware). Friends have pointed out that with the Blue Tooth module I could also stream music to my helmet and field hands-free phone calls, but I'm not really fond of the idea of either of those "perks", as I prefer to concentrate on the sounds around me as I ride. Is the Beeline good enough to make Triumph's Blue Tooth module a non-issue?
Options are always good and this is quite a novel option!! This seems to do what the compass does in Garmin/BMW nav units, except with clever additional indicators and of course without a huge box mounted to your bars.
Hi TMF hope youre well, how funny, i ordered one of these a couple of days ago before your vid. I love the simplicity of the Beeline and it will suit the minimalist nature of a new bike I’m expecting to arrive in December. As always, fantastic review and kind regards.
Great review as normal, mate! That last sentence had me laughing out loud. I've played it back three times haha "oh, i'm distracted - have to do that again"
Cheers TMF beeline is also my favourite Sat Nav. I recently purchased a tiger 900 rally pro and triumph has major connectivity issues with the iPhone 11 that they still need to resolve. I am using my beeline as a stand in for now (borrowed from my bobber black) it does as expected unlike the my triumph app and Sat Nav on the tiger 900! I do recommend the slightly expensive £29 bar mount as a permanent fixture on a modern classic, it is pricey but looks the part over the basic mount.
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Bought one of these a couple of months ago and absolutely love it. As Andy said no more worries about your expensive phone getting damaged. The device itself is completely waterproof, tough and very portable. Battery life is amazing. Also I can see the screen in all lights. Best £150 I ever spent. And yes Andy did forget to talk about the directional feature and the fact that it will reroute you if you missed your turn. Beeline do a great little video explaining everything. Thanks for reviewing TMF.
So glad to hear this Puddleduck!! Thank you 😁😁😁
You've got too much money, congratulations........and secondly, see the comments by other users who claim it cannot tell difference between a left turn off, and the road turning left.
@@tonebonetones "you've got too much money". What an unnecessary and shitty comment. I bought the Beeline, love it and said so and why. Now you have a nice day son.
Such a good piece of kit, been using it for 12 months now and it’s god for Sports bikes and tourers. Plotting your own route is excellent and keeping a record of where you have been. Excellent review by TMF
Awesome! You and I are about the same age so that little tiny thing has changed from when you’d fold up a map and stick into the clear waterproof cover of a tank bag.... 👍😎
I’ve had my Beeline for almost a year and the dedicated SatNav has not been used once since, even on tour. One point I think you missed is that the app does not use much of your phones power as you do not need the phones screen on while navigating. I found a full day on the bike with the beeline running only used about 30% of my iPhone charge. This is of course without having to charge the phone on the move. Other than that, a great review.
Brilliant info, thanks.
The one question I had, answered. Spot on.
Just revisiting this video after the prompt from Andy's latest sponsorship announcement. I am interested, but concerned about how it performs at night. Any comments? Like the concept, battery life, general design, but just the one question.
Hmm like the look of this! Didnt get it at first but makes sense especially for us multi bike folk!
Badda bing
Be better on a bike with less "Plaggy" tho' mate - mebbiz an Africa Twin 😁👍👀.. Totally agree by the way, as per my reply to TMF's vid yesterday 😘
Excellent done vlog though 🚭
It's perfect if you're nipping from bike to bike...or indeed borrowing other peoples bikes from odd places!
I got talking to s fellow biker in Crewe (on my way back from Cotswolds) the other day & he showed me the BeeLine device which I'd never heard of (I'd been looking at dedicated bike satnavs & had been put off by the costs). I was impressed & I've ordered one. I look forward to using it on my summer bike rides. I could've done with it the previous weekend when I met up with our group of biking bellringers in the Cotswolds. I did struggle with navigation between venues & again on my subsequent bike rides on my own when I stayed on for a few days. On my way home (Yorkshire) I resorted to written notes taped to the tank. (It did work!)
Thank you for your review, very helpful!
One of the most useful reviews I've seen of this device, cheers 👍
A great review TMF of a great product. Had one myself since May. Bought the gunmetal metal cased version, as I manage to drop stuff regularly! 🤪. I am amazed at the negativity some people have about the beeline on the comments. As always, it’s personal choice. I love how discreet this is and I don’t want to put my phone, shaking about on the handlebars. I also find the beeline far less distracting than a traditional sat nav screen and love the lack of voice commands - allows you to enjoy the ride a lot more and see more! One thing not mentioned in the video is the ‘non route’ mode - love this mode! You can put your destination in, but make your own way there with no fixed route, allowing you to explore different roads and villages in your own time and find new places / pubs! My partner loves that and is what makes biking more interesting for her!
Great device, happy with the price and the freedom it gives to go a lot further afield without being obtrusive.
I’m with you Mick!
Brilliant! That's on my wishlist! Thank you mr Flyer. The jacket without armpur is clever since I use a Knox "underwear" with protection. Which is the best piece of kit ever.
My pleasure!
Thanks Andy, good review of the Beeline. I have just bought one and it was nice to see it in operation.
I love my Beeline Moto. I didn't want a full blown sat nav, I just wanted a means of plotting a route on the app, adding waypoints as required, and then just enjoying the ride. It has a compass mode as well as a route mode. It also has an auto back-light, it turns on when it gets dark or you can turn it on manually. In the box it also comes with other fittings. Its not to everyone's taste, some rider's love large satnavs, for me its perfect. You can also upload GPX files to your phone and then navigate routes that way as well. I have mine mounted on a go-pro handlebar bracket, the adapter is standard in the box. Enjoyed your review 👍
Thank you Del - I agree, a neat solution, works for me!
I've got one of these and love it. Clean interface, easy to use, great battery life and no nagging voice in your ear telling you what to do
Exactly!
I've been using one of these since they came out as a kickstarter style campaign. I've been generally very pleased with it and it's perfect if you want something unobtrusive. Looks better on my vespa than full featured satnav too. Replaced my tomtom with it and haven't missed it.
I saw the first Beeline vids by the manufacturer when the product was "brand fire" new. Then I watched a few reviews, and decided it wasn't "Tekky" enough for me, and the device didn't provide enough info, but I have to say Andy, that's the best review I have seen to date, and your efforts with the cam, to show the display on the Beeline are really appreciated at my end. Now, with errrrrrrm - a few bikes (don't ask), this is a great device to have in the pocket to connect so damn easily with a couple of "laggy bands". I'd resisted for over a year as per the above comments - but I'll be having one now for sure. Thanks mate - really good review 👍
These are really good and do save your phone's camera from vibration damage to the optical stabilisation. I never ride without it and have the handlebar and elastic mount as well as the ball mount.
Woo, so glad to hear it Michael! Thank you so much for buying one 😁
Got mine in the Kickstarter campaign.
@@nietschean1 Oooh! Awesome. Thanks for supporting us the whole way along :)
Just get a soft phone case mount.
So that means if you are somewhere with no phone signal the unit stops working? Western Australia is a huge place.
Lord knows how i wound up looking at a review of a bike satnav but I have to say, this video is super well put together and presented. More enjoyable to watch than a satnav video has any right to be!!
I’m glad you thought so Adam!
Another positive I can think of is: Where I’m from we have long curving country roads that are wooded and sometimes have steep drop-offs. If you’re alone and for some reason you go off road and become incapacitated from injury it’s way better to have you phone on your person in order to call for help.
Holy cow! Finally someone else is pointing this out with me! I can’t believe no one else is really pointing this out. Even if your not injured, your phone is probably going for a short flight and then you’re playing Easter egg hunt.
By far the best online review of this gadget ....all the other reviews are non instructional and boring. I purchased one on the strength of this review and I couldn't be happier ...a great tip on the vibration that causes damage to my iPhone as I had the same issue. This little gem is not really a touring product although it could be used for touring at a push. The Beeline is a super product and brilliantly reviewed...THANKS
My pleasure - I have to say I find it a great little gadget - the fact I can move it from bike to bike is a real bonus for me....
@@TheMissendenFlyer I have been watching your reviews most of the day ...loved the 3 part NC 500 review. I think Henry Cole should be very worried as think you would make a super presenter. ...Good luck to you Sir !
This is really cool! I'll have to save this for when I can get another motorcycle. I could probably use this in my car too. Thanks for making a video about this.
It works well in a car as well. You can either use the Beeline jobby or the phone or both. Maybe the phone in “map” and the Beeline as standard. The supplementary mount supplied as standard uses the same connection format as GpPro’s so the mounting options are numerous.
Been thinking about the Beeline for a few months now and you tipped me over so glad you get a bit of bunce out of it. With Covid etc, looking to use the bike to see clients in London and reduce using public transport for a while.
Woo, thanks Tim! Hope that you love it 😊
The directional function is great for those exploring or not too bothered about accuracy in directions. Nice to know roughly what direction/distance you need to go in while enjoying the ride with no restrictions.
A great review. Obviously there are a limits to what you can include in a video of this length. The things not mentioned include the ability to modify the default route by inserting way points, the “non route mode” where you decide the route and the Beeline gives you distance and direction. The beasty also has backlighting, manual or automatic. The app gives you the ability to import GPX files and will also automatically share files with your iPad and iPhone. Lastly, the biggest thing is that you I can try the device without buying it. Download the app and run it without the device. Use the tutorial to learn how to make routes and then the Beeline display will be shown on your phone. That can be used in a car, on a bus or on your bike. I’m a great fan of Beeline and the thing that I most appreciate is that navigation is reduced to the basics; how far is the next turn, which direction and “are we nearly there yet?”
Thanks for that lot Trevor - I've been using mine since February and didn't know some of that! I'll pin your comment if you don't mind as this is good info...
Hi dose it takes to you or just the signal
I might get one of these. The compass function really interests me, just a general direction and I can have an adventure getting there.
Excellent. I never knew these existed. Think it looks really smart and I've now done a bit of research on them, I think its a class product. I'll be getting one. The compass mode looks like fun too !
Got a beeline for Christmas last year, I love it, oh and by the way, it does have a a back light. 👍😀
I was going to ask that, thank you 👍
Well that answers my question
What a brilliant gadget. With most bike sat-navs being prohibitive expensive, I've always relied upon the Tom-tom on my phone, however it drains the battery on my phone fairly rapidly and there's always the nagging worry that it might fall out of the holder on bumpy roads. This product looks like a perfect solution.
I've found it very handy for my use-case of needing to move the nav from bike to bike easily.....
@@TheMissendenFlyer If only I had that problem!
This feature is built into the KTM TFT as standard "KTM MY Ride", though the phone app costs £7.99 which grates a bit after spending £10,000 on a bike.
KTM: Nice bike you got there. It would be a shame if you were to... get lost...
Not even watched this but have had one a year and love it 👍🏻😁
Wooohoo! Glad to hear this - thanks Blunder 🙌🥳
20:11 into the video. The BEST part, had me cracking up 🤣 Busted! I do and say the exact thing. Too Funny Andy, love the kit corner and bloopers 👍🏻
Glad you enjoyed the video - thanks for watching!
I traveled across the US with one of these. I worked very well.
I got one earlier this year too and it’s been great. Cheaper than something like a Garmin and no faffy wires to connect to the bike battery or anything like that. I’ve explored a ton of a little country roads this year that I’d previously avoided for fear of getting hopelessly lost!
I guess my one minor criticism is sometimes it doesn’t know the difference between a left turn and a left bend... it might tell you continue for 5 miles but then you find you’ve gone off route because you followed the road but it wanted you to make a turn that it thought was a continuation of the road. All that said, it’s obvious when it’s happened, do a quick u-turn and all is good. I’m not sure how confident I’d be using it round a busy city centre in rush hour because of the basic display, but for leisure riding I highly recommend it
>Cheaper than something like a Garmin and no faffy wires to connect to the bike battery or anything like that.
Not so sure about that. I am using a 2nd hand eTrex20 ($30) which is a little bit bigger, but has a proper navigation system and doesn't rely on my phones battery and bluetooth. Ah, and yes, i have to replace the two AA batteries every week. ;-)
That's my experience of it too. And because you don't actually have the route displayed in front of you, it isn't possible to make intuitive decisions about the route you are being taken on.
It cannot tell difference between a bend and a turn off?! Seriously?? If I were you, I'd return it and get your £150 back lol.
I have just purchased the beeline moto after watching your review!!
Used for a couple of nice little journeys!!
What a cracking bit of kit, fantastic review and video as always!!
I just use tomtom rider 550 hardwired ignition switched, no battery worry and no phone needed and big screen.
Just ordered a twin pack for my father and I using the link. Early christmas present. Love the simple design and instructions. I like actually using my brain when riding so this suits me perfectly. Plus, I've had enough of sending my iPhone XR to apple for the camera to be repaired.
Tell me about it!! Cheers!
Too expensive for me, I’ll stick to my map, but to be honest I’m a retired lorry driver, and after 40 Years of driving 12 hours a day and probably 3 million miles I’ve a pretty good idea where I’m going, plus I find when I have used a Satnav it always takes me the long way round 🤣😂 I think Young people rely too much on satnav’s, having said that Sky Demon is great when flying light aircraft as you will know 😉👍
@siemenssx1 I use a map or have a quick look at Google maps on my iPad before I set off, if I click on the roads I need, I can usually get a picture reference, so when I get there I recognise my surroundings, it always works for me, if you plan your Journey before you set off, you won’t get lost, but you can’t get lost on a small Island like UK 😂🇬🇧👍
Thank you for your time making these videos,it's much appreciated.
My pleasure
How much! F me you can get a fully operational Tom Tom (other makes available) for that and look good too and presentable. I usually agree with your findings Tmf but not things time - thanks but no thanks.
Yep, its WAY OVER PRICED {IMHO}
I'd much rather have this. Small, discreet, would look better on classic bikes.
That's a cool device. Nice clean look and not a bunch of data to distract you. My son put his iPhone on the bars and his camera broke too. Thanks TMF.
Yes this is a really neat solution to that problem, doesn't look out of place on handlebars and gives you enough info to get you where you want to go...I love mine!
Morning, thanks for the review. Does it constantly use your phone data whilst riding, or does it just use that little bit of data when you upload the map in the first instance?
I suspect it uses it all the time - there is no map uploaded to the device, it's just a slave display....your phone is doing all the real work (this keeps it off your handlebars)...
Thanks for the reply, I guess this device is not for me then because at present my data package on my mobile is quite low and so I suspect a couple of uses would end up using my monthly allowance. Will look to upgrade once out of contract.
I’m not sure I agree with you. I think it gets the route uploaded to your phone when you set off and only looks to the phone if you go off-route to redirect you. If your phone was doing the work you’d have a flat phone battery in no time and in my experience that isn’t the case
Hey all! First of all, thanks to The Missenden Flyer for the review - we are totally chuffed :). Cheers.
@Schuey, the app will use data if it needs to re-route you but if you are concerned about data use you can save all of your routes in the app in advance and then use your Beeline Moto with your phone in airplane mode (just Bluetooth needed). It won't re-route you if you take a wrong turn but it will route you back to where you went off track :)
@@ridebeeline Thanks, so I guess it uses data when you initially calculate the route before you set off, and then again if it needs to reroute. Otherwise, it just mirrors the route from your phone via Bluetooth to the device without a continuous drain on data?
I am not normally a compulsive buyer BUT I just purchased one. Exactly what I need. Thanks Andy. I just hope the package makes it all the way to New Zealand :)
Don't see why it shouldn't Craig! Great little gadget that suits my use-case a treat....thanks for watching!
I have a profound dislike of satnavs mounted where I have to take my eyes off the road. Best option is voice prompts to your helmet, or if you have to look at it at least have it in your peripheral vision not down on the ‘bars.
It would be interesting to see a direct comparison between Beeline, Calimoto, phone apps & turn-by-turn on TFTs, and I wonder how long it will be before Cardo, Sena etc integrate a nav app into their products? But for the time being I will stick with the more functional Satnav I’ve already paid for!
I have my sat-nav in my car set to speak Flemish, she is called Anna or some such, reminds me of the 1980s porn videos of my youth. Alas, can't tell a word she says.
Good review TMF, thanks. I bought one of these a few months ago; first class piece of kit. I have a Guzzi V7 with clipons, so mounting anything on the dash is a challenge. Can just squeeze the Beeline onto the right clipon bar. In July/Aug I took the bike back to Mandello del Lario, via the B500 and Swiss passes for its 10 year anniversary. 11 days and 2,100 miles. I only charged the beeline three times. Four additions to your review based on my experience: (1) I found turn-by-turn navigation much less distracting than map-based navigation (2) the app is fab, it runs off my Google Maps app but the routing is 100 times more flexible, a real joy once you get the hang of it (3) long tunnels are a bit of a challenge (you drop signal, the distance countdown stops and there you wish you had a map as context) - Swiss tunnels with junctions in the tunnel or immediately after the tunnel were a bit disconcerting. Unlikely to be an issue in the UK though (4) a big caveat on the battery life - it's only as good as the battery life of your phone. My slightly old Galaxy S8 typically lasts around 14 hours for normal use, but regularly ran flat after about 5 hours of constant beeline use. I forgot my supplementary usb battery pack when I left London, which was entirely my fault - but it did lead to an amusing incident on the way home. Mandello to Bregenez via Davos (Stelvio was closed). Phone died just after Davos and I went from 21st Century navigation to stone age navigation in about 0.5second. I was left 3 hours, 4 countries and about 120miles with nothing but a rudimentary memory of the roads and the knowledge that I was heading vaguely North East (thankfully the sun was out). Anyway, not the Beeline's fault, and nothing that a paper map, a back up set of directions, a usb port or a battery pack couldn't cure. The Beeline really is great, just take back up power for your phone on a long trip.
Haha wow that sounds like a real adventure Jamie! Glad that you made it back in the end 😁 and that you're loving the Beeline Moto otherwise - thank you so much for buying one 🙌
Good advice Jamie - thanks for watching and for stopping by....
@@ridebeeline it really is a great product, the first sat nav I've ever really wanted to take on a trip. Takes the stress out of the journey without getting in the way, and even looks nice on the bike, which I've never thought of any other device.
Thanks Mr. Flyer sir. I do enjoy your reviews and general musings on life. Keep them coming!
Highly recommended, especially the “as the crow flies” mode as it’s a great way to find new routes.
what does that mode do
@@everythinggaming7938 it acts like a compass always pointing to your chosen destination but not giving turn by turn directions. This means you can find your own route without getting lost.
I bought one of these on the back of your review TMF and have to say what a cracking piece of kit. I’m not keen on having the iPhone on the handlebars as there’s potentially too many other distractions not to mention the damage risk through vibration. With this though it provides at a glance directional information and it works really well. I tend to know roughly where I’m going in the UK anyway so like the compass function that points you in the right direction of your destination. Been using it this week after lockdown restrictions have eased and really impressed. Simple to set up and mount although I must remember not to leave it on the bike when I go wandering off for a coffee break 👍
I find mine blends in with the bike handlebar just fine and do tend to leave it on the Speed Twin even when I park the bike (...famous last words now)....
Had one since April and can highly recommend.
A few quirks: gets confused when phone has no signal (usually momentary), finicky when you miss a waypoint, not the best navigating complicated junctions and it's pricey.
On the upside: screen is stunningly bright, form factor brilliant, easy to read and understand, can import GPX files.
Anyone wanna buy my TomTom?
Thanks for the feedback - i agree all round!
Excellent bit of kit, it'll definitely be on my Xmas list, the fact is small enough to carry on your pocket is a plus, the only thing is can you see this at night!.
I see Beeline are collaborating with Triumph now.
Got my triumph version on order!
@@chrisdigital link to order the triumph version? I googled it said reach out to dealership
@@ranjeet1449 Yes, I had to call my local dealer and they special ordered it for me. It's coming in a month.
Just ordered mine (with fixed bar mount too) thanks to your review, thank you 👍
Can anyone comment how this handles proper city driving? I would like one, but concerned it wouldn’t really work for me. What happens when you need to be in lane 2 with 4 options?! Seems like it only works on basic A and B roads...
PS. Nice vid TMF, as always. Thanks.
Good question. A direct answer is that the Beeline icon will tell you what you have to do at the next junction. In this case it will be either a merge or filter to the left or right.
Nice. I’ve had my eye on the bee line for a while so it’s nice to see it in action. I love how simple it is. I don’t want a big gps strapped to my handlebars but I recon this would be perfect.
You didn’t mention the RAM mount option - comes with a standard RAM ball, and as you mentioned, you just twist it off it’s mounting plate and stick it in your pocket. Great device
I didn't know that Ian - cheers...
Another influencer. Thank you. For your priceless video. Beeline is very good nav. Even for Motorbikers.
Why is everything especially designed for motorcycles so expensive? I'd rather just buy a second hand phone for £50 and mount that.
Well you can do that and where I need full feature satnav (eg when I'm off-road) I do the same with an old phone - this though I find a neat and very portable solution, works very well for my particular use case where I need to quickly and easily move the nav between bikes....
PS if you think everything to do with bikes are expensive try aeroplanes!!
@@TheMissendenFlyer I can barely afford MS Flight Sim and a yoke 🤣
@@TheMissendenFlyer Same with boats and chandlers. Top tip, when you need something non-nautical for a boat cabin, go to a caravan spares dealer and get the same item half price.
Your so right. Manufactures think if its motorcycle related then double the price
This is exactly what I’ve been looking for! Excellent review as ever, thank you. 👍
My pleasure!
I've got one, it works. Love it 😁
Good aren’t they....
Wooo, so glad to hear! Thanks so much for buying one Chip 😁
After watching your review sir, I’ve just ordered one, thank you.
Glad I could help
Cool little piece of kit.
Such a great little unit, very cool and easy to use. You really have to try it to fully get it. Very intuitive and looks cooler than a massive unit mounted on your bars
So glad to hear Simey2wheels! Thanks for buying one 😁
Bin looking for something like this looks good compacted instead of having a big x grip i don't trust will be getting one thanks
I bought one of these just over 12 months ago & its exactly as you described Andy! It also works without Bluetooth. Put in your destination & just go! Great when there’s no coverage 😡👍🏼🇦🇺
Really? Works without Bluetooth...I find that hard to believe...!!
@@TheMissendenFlyer Oops! U need wifi or internet connection to set route but then you can turn data off! Yes bluetooth is then needed Andy🤪
Eye's on the road! What was the symbol on the navigation for 'look right, pavement distraction!' 😅
Sadly not a function they appear to have built in - luckily my sensors for that sort of thing are highly sensitive...
Totally cracked me up 😂😂
Bought one recently and used it to get me into London, and from the bike shed to ace cafe. Once I got use to how it works (and went wrong a few times - my fault) it was great. Perfect for use on my Triumph as I didn’t want a sat nav or phone spoiling it’s look. Back lit for night time was really handy.
Wooo, super to hear this! Thanks Ollyotts 😁🙌
Why didn't you mention the directional function of the beeline? It's my favourite thing. Just points to your destination and the rest is up to you :)
Erm, no good excuse I can think of - there’s more to the Beeline than meets the eye!
Best demo of the bee line nav iv seen .well done
Thank you!
Bluetooth headset connected to phone using waze or googlemaps with voice commands ... cheaper, safer and no faffing with even more stuff on the bars!
Another excellent option, I do this frequently. Different strokes though, some people prefer visual cues rather than spoken directions.
@@user-cx2bk6pm2f but 150 for that
@@dardobartoli Yep, it's simply a rip at £150. I sometimes use waze or just as easy, pull over for 30 seconds to check Google maps.
Waze is excellent but burns battery life quickly. Using the Beeline avoids this problem on longer journeys. I also prefer visual cues and references.
Why do people still use Waze? Google maps now has the "reporting" function to alert on police, road debris, accident, etc.
Just ordered one and I'm looking forward to using it soon,I've heard many phones have been damaged through vibration on motorcycles so didn't want to risk my new S21.
Thanks for the Info TMF.
My pleasure!
I just use google maps on my phone (whilst its in my pocket) with a bluetooth connection to my sena to give me voice directions whenever I need them - works brilliantly for me 👍 Great video though!
Fair enough - I don't use a headset so prefer the visual cues this gives....
waze
Just knowing that you have 6 bikes in your garage makes me feel less guilty about my humble 4, two of which are scooters. So thanks for that. Anyway, another great video. One of the things I appreciate about your videos is that you approach items like a normal guy, rather than as a pedant. Real world stuff. So (for example), when modding your Interceptor, it was step by step including the hard bits. Too many videos are "Then just remove the tank, open the valve cover, remove the cams, throw away the cam chain tensioner, grind down the exhaust cams, and you're all set. Easy."
Thank you Charles - I'm glad you think that, I am just the same as everyone else and hope my videos reflect life in the real world (rather than wheelie gods, track day gods, off road gods, engineering gods, etc).....
would be nice if that interfaced with Waze instead of using its own routing?
Really anthing that didn't mean proprietary app that gets shut off at somepoint. I'll still be ordering one I think, but yeah, would be better with just google maps/waze integration
@@jonpram1737 The main issue is that now this app needs to support good map material that is already available in other apps (waze/Google Maps).. Does Beeline use OSM? That might be useful as OSM can be edited by the community, but integrations like reports and traffic which waze/Google has will be missing, Does beeline have useful options for distinguishing different route types? (Calimoto, Kurviger).
@@jonpram1737 I'm sure i read somewhere that it uses google's map. However i do agree that it would be nice if it didn't even need it's own app.
They actually do have a backlight feature that comes on in the dark - you can also make it stay on in daylight to make it stand out more which I find helpful (although I'm sure this hits the very long battery life a bit). But picking aside, another great vid.
@@peterd3215 On mine, if you go to Settings, there is a Sun type logo shown at the top. Click on that and the display lights up. I would describe it as a backlight more than just a stronger screen setting, but I may be wrong . . . .
Are people aware that most phone mounts aren't secure enough to resist a crash? So when you need your phone most, i. e. to call for help after going down, you find an empty mount and have no idea where the phone got slung to. If this device helps keep your phone in a safe place, it's worth it's weight in gold.
G. You are right. I use a mount for my phone, but I have often thought I would not have it to hand if I were to have a bingle
A great point you raised
@@murraycharters6102 I learned a related lesson when my phone was in a locked pannier and a crash locked the locking mechanism 😖
I do enjoy the outtakes😂, another classic TMF upload on what I consider your coolest bike😎👍🏻
I do love my Speed Twin - really grown on me since I’ve had it....
Did you get it free? In other words is this an advertisement? It would be good to tell the viewer. It's in the TH-cam T&C's.
Wow, this is a game changer. It also seems you can build routes.....thanks for showing this.
I deleted my previous comment because there were some inaccuracies on my part, and then I got an email with your response (which I believe is also gone). Sorry for that, it wasn't on purpose but just a case of bad timing. Anyway, the gist of my comment is that I find it too expensive for the little convenience it brings. I said in my comment that I think there's a lot of shortcomings with this device, most notably no voice instructions and no backlit screen (how do you use it at night?), and also that other more complete solutions exist for not much more money (cheap smartphone just for nav, smartwatch, your phone on the pocked with voice guidance...). I'd also like to say that my opinion is obviously opposite of yours, and that's fine - I'm not downplaying your opinion, I'm just expressing mine. What I find disappointing is when you said you only made the video because you like the device. Why wouldn't you make a video if you disliked it?! That's how you stay credible.
Because I waned to spread the word for a gadget I've found to be useful...I assumed others may find it useful too. I had no issue with your previous comment, there was no need to delete it! All the best...TMF
I’ve got one of these, it’s a great product! One word of caution, although the beeline has a great battery life, but you do need to make sure your phone is charged.
If your phone dies so does the beeline.
Looks ok, unfortunate name if you ever watch a “bee line” lol. 😁
Excellent demo Andy, thankyou. That’s my next buy😁👍
Damn that jacket looks like you stole it from Kim Jong-UN the supreme emperor of North Korea 🇰🇵 🤣🤣🤷♂️🤷♂️
So it does! Turns out he’s a bit of a hipster!
TMF - Our Great Leader.
Colin Goldthorpe, no way it's about 10 sizes too small
I really like my Beeline. Think it is much safer than a sat nav as the display is so instinctive and simpler to follow. Less time is needed looking at it.
You can plan a interesting route by putting in as many way points as you like on the app. It also uses hardly Amy battery or data on your Android or i phone. It comes as std with a longer hinged strick/bolt on mount. Bolt on handle bar and a selection of other mounts are sold separately. 😎
So glad to hear this, thanks Graham! 😁
lol, now everyone knows its an "expensive device" worth pinching
Nicely demonstrated TMF. I'm a fan of simplicity and have been curious about the Beeline since it was a kickstarter project. I just can't get past the idea of being on a French autoroute, approaching a complicated multiple exit with only a floating arrow and dot to help me decipher it. Then being forced onto a toll road that locks me into a 30 mile detour in the wrong direction and spits me out in "Deliverance" territory, in the fog, down a hole, with an owl (Fast Show reference).
Hey Paul! We heard this loud and clear from our beta testers so we released it with some extra symbols for exactly that type of scenario 😊. You can find out more about those here: ridebeeline.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/77000227608-following-directions-on-beeline-moto
@@ridebeeline Very interesting! I've been impressed with the improvements you've made but wasn't aware of this latest update. I'll give the phone app another go. Certainly find the device appealing.
@@paulstredwick Ah! I think that that will be it - the phone app is not yet designed to be used standalone so doesn't have all of the same features (incl. junction indicators) as the device itself. We are releasing big app update in the next couple of months that will change this! Are you on our mailing list? That's the best way to stay in the loop :)
@@ridebeeline I'll join your mailing list now. Thanks for the info.
i got one of those, it's really sweet. i actually left it on my bike for a night in a really sketchy street and no one bothered ;) also, sometimes i just put the northern most point as reference and use it as a compass. :)
Yes great little gadget aren’t they - and as you say, inconspicuous....
@@TheMissendenFlyer unfortunately for me, it is so inconscpicuous that I myself tend to forget about it... ;D
Hi Andy, what a great idea, that is all you need on a bike especially in London!
Agreed! Very neat solution....
Great review Andy, I have ordered on for my new commuter bike.
Very well explained. Looks a great idea, just what I need. Also love the Speed Twin, should be my next bike. Cheers.
Glad it was helpful!
Hi TMF, just ordered a BeeLine Nav, I've been looking for something similar to this size and this fits what I need. I too have had an iPhone camera go bad on me because of vibration. Thanks for sharing this device.
My pleasure!
Thanks for the review. I used one of these for my trip from Andalucia to Sussex and back with very mixed results. I had errors of up to 400m at times and since my phone was running side by side with the Beeline running Google Maps (Faultlessly I might add) I could see the error in real time. 400m error of course made the Beeline useless and it got me completely lost in the middle of Burgos. The device itself is fine, it is the software app that is crap. Why they don't just configure it as a display for Google Maps is beyond me. For those who say why not just use the phone the answer is strong sunlight and those who say Bluetooth voice instructions that is illegal in France. So a good reflective display is a good idea. Shame about the software.
Hey M Holbrook! Oh no :(. Sorry to hear that. It sounds something was going a bit wrong there - we would suspect the GPS reading on your phone but it is interesting that Google Maps was bang on. Please could you shoot us an email at support@beeline.co? We can have a look into it if you like and see what might be going wrong. We'd love to get you Beelining better!
Hi Beeline, you know me perfectly well. I contacted you reporting the 400m error when I was lost in Northern Spain using the Beeline. And yes, the phone with Google Maps was bang on. I also reported an exact location of a 400m error in Sussex, you told me the app needed replacing. Mathew is my contact.
For a retro style bike I think it's style is perfect. Quite expensive really but such is life with motorbike things. Cheers
I bought one of these recently and have not done about 200 miles with it. I love it! So much more subtle and discrete than having my phone mounted on the bars, plus my phone stays safely tucked away in my pocket. The Beeline Moto uses a fraction of my phones battery, and fits in my pocket when not in use. It took a little while to get used to not seeing the shape of the road ahead, but once you learn to trust it, it's clear and effective. Cost me £150 and is well worth it.
Woo, thank you so much Robin! We are chuffed to hear it and really appreciate you buying a Beeline Moto - thanks 😁
Good review. Perfect nav system when you have no specific route in mind - only a general direction of where you want to go. I found using my phone too much of a distraction and rather focus on riding. Using the Beeline I pay more attention to the ride.
Couldn't agree more!
I've been mulling over buying the Blue Tooth module for my Triumph Scrambler 1200XC. It's roughly $100 more than the Beeline, but I wouldn't have to mount anything additional on my handlebar if I go with the Blue Tooth module (it uses the TFT display already on the bike as I'm sure you're already aware). Friends have pointed out that with the Blue Tooth module I could also stream music to my helmet and field hands-free phone calls, but I'm not really fond of the idea of either of those "perks", as I prefer to concentrate on the sounds around me as I ride. Is the Beeline good enough to make Triumph's Blue Tooth module a non-issue?
Just ordered one from here, thanks for the review flyer.
No problem 👍
Options are always good and this is quite a novel option!! This seems to do what the compass does in Garmin/BMW nav units, except with clever additional indicators and of course without a huge box mounted to your bars.
I like the fact that you don't have a GPS constantly nagging at you to make a turn!
Me too - low key this
Hi TMF hope youre well, how funny, i ordered one of these a couple of days ago before your vid. I love the simplicity of the Beeline and it will suit the minimalist nature of a new bike I’m expecting to arrive in December. As always, fantastic review and kind regards.
Hey mate! Not another new bike - one day you’ll buy the right one and keep it!!! 😜
😂 i don’t get rid of all of them 😂
I really appreciate this video. As a 19 year old living in London as a courier this is perfect for me I’ve already broken 5 iPhones 💔💔
Way to go!
Great review as normal, mate! That last sentence had me laughing out loud. I've played it back three times haha "oh, i'm distracted - have to do that again"
Glad you liked it.....
Cheers TMF beeline is also my favourite Sat Nav. I recently purchased a tiger 900 rally pro and triumph has major connectivity issues with the iPhone 11 that they still need to resolve. I am using my beeline as a stand in for now (borrowed from my bobber black) it does as expected unlike the my triumph app and Sat Nav on the tiger 900! I do recommend the slightly expensive £29 bar mount as a permanent fixture on a modern classic, it is pricey but looks the part over the basic mount.
Nice one - I'll check it out!
Right at the end ( my word) classic, interesting video great piece of kit cheers Andy 👍🏍
Glad you enjoyed it