I’ve had my Beeline for almost a year and the dedicated SatNav has not been used once since, even on tour. One point I think you missed is that the app does not use much of your phones power as you do not need the phones screen on while navigating. I found a full day on the bike with the beeline running only used about 30% of my iPhone charge. This is of course without having to charge the phone on the move. Other than that, a great review.
Just revisiting this video after the prompt from Andy's latest sponsorship announcement. I am interested, but concerned about how it performs at night. Any comments? Like the concept, battery life, general design, but just the one question.
I've an MZ that I've spent a fortune on (£600 engine rebuild and £240 after market charging/ignition system are just for staters) but it still looks crap/old/cheap which what I want. A discreet gadget like this keeps up the pretence that we're riding round in 1964.. Hmmmm might get one.
Did like the dual camera footage. It’s nice to vary the view for the final edit. May I suggest that you mount the camera facing you more forward and higher. You are a constant black silhouette as you shot it. Still better than a boring all forward view.
If you have your bluetooth headset connected and a call comes in does the beeline carry on regardless? Great review, love the distraction outtake too!!
Hey Russ - sorry I missed your comment.....and no, it won't replace your tomtom because you need your phone for this to work, the phone basically provides the GPS and intelligence, this is just a front end....and yes, it uses mobile data. Great to hear from you!! Hope all is well??? My daughter now lives in Nottingham (near that Banksie), so might see you around!
I know that by not using the screen of my phone, the battery life of your phone is longer but if using bluetooth and gps (even if the screen is not on), How much percentage does the battery drain on your phone if I use the beeline? If normally my phone has a battery life of 8h (it is a example) but using the beeline it would be 5 hours (it would drain me 3h of my phone to use the beeline!) for using bluetooth and gps (even if the screen is not on), it would be a problem. I think the interesting thing is to know what is left of your phone so my question would be, how much does it really take from my phone's battery to use the beeline?
Too expensive for me, I’ll stick to my map, but to be honest I’m a retired lorry driver, and after 40 Years of driving 12 hours a day and probably 3 million miles I’ve a pretty good idea where I’m going, plus I find when I have used a Satnav it always takes me the long way round 🤣😂 I think Young people rely too much on satnav’s, having said that Sky Demon is great when flying light aircraft as you will know 😉👍
@siemenssx1 I use a map or have a quick look at Google maps on my iPad before I set off, if I click on the roads I need, I can usually get a picture reference, so when I get there I recognise my surroundings, it always works for me, if you plan your Journey before you set off, you won’t get lost, but you can’t get lost on a small Island like UK 😂🇬🇧👍
Well you can do that and where I need full feature satnav (eg when I'm off-road) I do the same with an old phone - this though I find a neat and very portable solution, works very well for my particular use case where I need to quickly and easily move the nav between bikes....
@@TheMissendenFlyer Same with boats and chandlers. Top tip, when you need something non-nautical for a boat cabin, go to a caravan spares dealer and get the same item half price.
How much! F me you can get a fully operational Tom Tom (other makes available) for that and look good too and presentable. I usually agree with your findings Tmf but not things time - thanks but no thanks.
Such a good piece of kit, been using it for 12 months now and it’s god for Sports bikes and tourers. Plotting your own route is excellent and keeping a record of where you have been. Excellent review by TMF
@@xpabz Haha aww we love that idea! Hope you don't have to wait too long though ChilliJonCarne 😁. Join our mailing list (via our website) if you like - we do do special offers eveeeery now and then 😉
Bought one of these a couple of months ago and absolutely love it. As Andy said no more worries about your expensive phone getting damaged. The device itself is completely waterproof, tough and very portable. Battery life is amazing. Also I can see the screen in all lights. Best £150 I ever spent. And yes Andy did forget to talk about the directional feature and the fact that it will reroute you if you missed your turn. Beeline do a great little video explaining everything. Thanks for reviewing TMF.
You've got too much money, congratulations........and secondly, see the comments by other users who claim it cannot tell difference between a left turn off, and the road turning left.
@@tonebonetones "you've got too much money". What an unnecessary and shitty comment. I bought the Beeline, love it and said so and why. Now you have a nice day son.
Awesome! You and I are about the same age so that little tiny thing has changed from when you’d fold up a map and stick into the clear waterproof cover of a tank bag.... 👍😎
This feature is built into the KTM TFT as standard "KTM MY Ride", though the phone app costs £7.99 which grates a bit after spending £10,000 on a bike.
Sorry TMF but I really don't see the point. To me it seems like just a gimmick. I'd much rather use the free offline maps on my phone secured by a quad lock. I know you had a problem with your phone using the quad lock but I have toured all of Europe including Scandinavia and all of eastern Australia and never had an issue with either the phone or the quad lock.
Brilliant! That's on my wishlist! Thank you mr Flyer. The jacket without armpur is clever since I use a Knox "underwear" with protection. Which is the best piece of kit ever.
For $200 USD you get a proprietary app that won't work as well as Google maps, a proprietary charger which you won't have right when you need it, and a tiny display to look down at rather than voice prompts that let you focus on your surroundings. Oh, and your phone is still doing all the work so there goes that battery. Hmmm. Normally we're pretty on the same page but I think I'm going to pass on this one. Still a fun vid though - cheers!
Matt Heere - I disagree. The app works as well as Google maps without gobbling up your data. You take the charger with you if you think you will be using if for more than a 30 hours and the display is big enough to be seen at a glance. Battery usage is reasonable. A 150 mile drive cost me about 20% of my iPhone XR battery (with my wife prodding away at the screen looking for other things).
These are really good and do save your phone's camera from vibration damage to the optical stabilisation. I never ride without it and have the handlebar and elastic mount as well as the ball mount.
I deleted my previous comment because there were some inaccuracies on my part, and then I got an email with your response (which I believe is also gone). Sorry for that, it wasn't on purpose but just a case of bad timing. Anyway, the gist of my comment is that I find it too expensive for the little convenience it brings. I said in my comment that I think there's a lot of shortcomings with this device, most notably no voice instructions and no backlit screen (how do you use it at night?), and also that other more complete solutions exist for not much more money (cheap smartphone just for nav, smartwatch, your phone on the pocked with voice guidance...). I'd also like to say that my opinion is obviously opposite of yours, and that's fine - I'm not downplaying your opinion, I'm just expressing mine. What I find disappointing is when you said you only made the video because you like the device. Why wouldn't you make a video if you disliked it?! That's how you stay credible.
Because I waned to spread the word for a gadget I've found to be useful...I assumed others may find it useful too. I had no issue with your previous comment, there was no need to delete it! All the best...TMF
I love my Beeline Moto. I didn't want a full blown sat nav, I just wanted a means of plotting a route on the app, adding waypoints as required, and then just enjoying the ride. It has a compass mode as well as a route mode. It also has an auto back-light, it turns on when it gets dark or you can turn it on manually. In the box it also comes with other fittings. Its not to everyone's taste, some rider's love large satnavs, for me its perfect. You can also upload GPX files to your phone and then navigate routes that way as well. I have mine mounted on a go-pro handlebar bracket, the adapter is standard in the box. Enjoyed your review 👍
Can anyone comment how this handles proper city driving? I would like one, but concerned it wouldn’t really work for me. What happens when you need to be in lane 2 with 4 options?! Seems like it only works on basic A and B roads... PS. Nice vid TMF, as always. Thanks.
Good question. A direct answer is that the Beeline icon will tell you what you have to do at the next junction. In this case it will be either a merge or filter to the left or right.
This is really cool! I'll have to save this for when I can get another motorcycle. I could probably use this in my car too. Thanks for making a video about this.
It works well in a car as well. You can either use the Beeline jobby or the phone or both. Maybe the phone in “map” and the Beeline as standard. The supplementary mount supplied as standard uses the same connection format as GpPro’s so the mounting options are numerous.
The directional function is great for those exploring or not too bothered about accuracy in directions. Nice to know roughly what direction/distance you need to go in while enjoying the ride with no restrictions.
I've been using one of these since they came out as a kickstarter style campaign. I've been generally very pleased with it and it's perfect if you want something unobtrusive. Looks better on my vespa than full featured satnav too. Replaced my tomtom with it and haven't missed it.
£150/£200 ? lovely bit of kit but seriously you can buy a good quality GPS system for less. I think if I had a Christmas wish-list then this would certainly be on it, but no way I would pay that kind of money for an LCD display that connects via Bluetooth to my phone? plus how does it fit with clip-ons? But then again there is no way I would pay £1000 for a phone haha (BTW it's £99 for the Bicycle version which is odd as I cannot see any real difference)
A great review. Obviously there are a limits to what you can include in a video of this length. The things not mentioned include the ability to modify the default route by inserting way points, the “non route mode” where you decide the route and the Beeline gives you distance and direction. The beasty also has backlighting, manual or automatic. The app gives you the ability to import GPX files and will also automatically share files with your iPad and iPhone. Lastly, the biggest thing is that you I can try the device without buying it. Download the app and run it without the device. Use the tutorial to learn how to make routes and then the Beeline display will be shown on your phone. That can be used in a car, on a bus or on your bike. I’m a great fan of Beeline and the thing that I most appreciate is that navigation is reduced to the basics; how far is the next turn, which direction and “are we nearly there yet?”
Thanks for that lot Trevor - I've been using mine since February and didn't know some of that! I'll pin your comment if you don't mind as this is good info...
Another positive I can think of is: Where I’m from we have long curving country roads that are wooded and sometimes have steep drop-offs. If you’re alone and for some reason you go off road and become incapacitated from injury it’s way better to have you phone on your person in order to call for help.
Holy cow! Finally someone else is pointing this out with me! I can’t believe no one else is really pointing this out. Even if your not injured, your phone is probably going for a short flight and then you’re playing Easter egg hunt.
Had one since April and can highly recommend. A few quirks: gets confused when phone has no signal (usually momentary), finicky when you miss a waypoint, not the best navigating complicated junctions and it's pricey. On the upside: screen is stunningly bright, form factor brilliant, easy to read and understand, can import GPX files. Anyone wanna buy my TomTom?
I don't know man for a lower price I can buy an old waterproof phone and dedicate it just to navigation, with a better and bigger screen and clearer indications, ESPECIALLY in old towns where you might have to take several turns in just few meters
I have a profound dislike of satnavs mounted where I have to take my eyes off the road. Best option is voice prompts to your helmet, or if you have to look at it at least have it in your peripheral vision not down on the ‘bars. It would be interesting to see a direct comparison between Beeline, Calimoto, phone apps & turn-by-turn on TFTs, and I wonder how long it will be before Cardo, Sena etc integrate a nav app into their products? But for the time being I will stick with the more functional Satnav I’ve already paid for!
I have my sat-nav in my car set to speak Flemish, she is called Anna or some such, reminds me of the 1980s porn videos of my youth. Alas, can't tell a word she says.
Looks an option of you don't want to buy a nav or risk damaging your i phone TMF. Does it recalculate the route if you miss a turn and can you also get spoken directions from the phone app if you have a bluetooth headset as I find that particularly useful both in the car and on the bike with my current satnavs? My word indeed😂
A great review TMF of a great product. Had one myself since May. Bought the gunmetal metal cased version, as I manage to drop stuff regularly! 🤪. I am amazed at the negativity some people have about the beeline on the comments. As always, it’s personal choice. I love how discreet this is and I don’t want to put my phone, shaking about on the handlebars. I also find the beeline far less distracting than a traditional sat nav screen and love the lack of voice commands - allows you to enjoy the ride a lot more and see more! One thing not mentioned in the video is the ‘non route’ mode - love this mode! You can put your destination in, but make your own way there with no fixed route, allowing you to explore different roads and villages in your own time and find new places / pubs! My partner loves that and is what makes biking more interesting for her! Great device, happy with the price and the freedom it gives to go a lot further afield without being obtrusive.
Are people aware that most phone mounts aren't secure enough to resist a crash? So when you need your phone most, i. e. to call for help after going down, you find an empty mount and have no idea where the phone got slung to. If this device helps keep your phone in a safe place, it's worth it's weight in gold.
Excellent. I never knew these existed. Think it looks really smart and I've now done a bit of research on them, I think its a class product. I'll be getting one. The compass mode looks like fun too !
Really anthing that didn't mean proprietary app that gets shut off at somepoint. I'll still be ordering one I think, but yeah, would be better with just google maps/waze integration
@@jonpram1737 The main issue is that now this app needs to support good map material that is already available in other apps (waze/Google Maps).. Does Beeline use OSM? That might be useful as OSM can be edited by the community, but integrations like reports and traffic which waze/Google has will be missing, Does beeline have useful options for distinguishing different route types? (Calimoto, Kurviger).
Morning, thanks for the review. Does it constantly use your phone data whilst riding, or does it just use that little bit of data when you upload the map in the first instance?
I suspect it uses it all the time - there is no map uploaded to the device, it's just a slave display....your phone is doing all the real work (this keeps it off your handlebars)...
Thanks for the reply, I guess this device is not for me then because at present my data package on my mobile is quite low and so I suspect a couple of uses would end up using my monthly allowance. Will look to upgrade once out of contract.
I’m not sure I agree with you. I think it gets the route uploaded to your phone when you set off and only looks to the phone if you go off-route to redirect you. If your phone was doing the work you’d have a flat phone battery in no time and in my experience that isn’t the case
Hey all! First of all, thanks to The Missenden Flyer for the review - we are totally chuffed :). Cheers. @Schuey, the app will use data if it needs to re-route you but if you are concerned about data use you can save all of your routes in the app in advance and then use your Beeline Moto with your phone in airplane mode (just Bluetooth needed). It won't re-route you if you take a wrong turn but it will route you back to where you went off track :)
@@ridebeeline Thanks, so I guess it uses data when you initially calculate the route before you set off, and then again if it needs to reroute. Otherwise, it just mirrors the route from your phone via Bluetooth to the device without a continuous drain on data?
Nice device. I’m guessing your phone is the device that is doing the sat navigation and this is just the display? I find that using my phone as a sat Nav really creams my battery over the day , even with the big battery in an iPhone pro max - does this do the same?
Ooooh, I've been looking for exactly this for ages! Where I live you can't use your phone for 3 years after passing your test for any function (urgh). I've looked at all the motorcycle standalone GPS options and they're pretty much all expensive or just 2000 tech at 2020 prices. All I wanted was a portable google maps I could connect to the internet somehow, but not much about. I suppose technically this would still be illegal as it does use the phone, but TBH I think it's low risk enough to be worth it - put my phone under the seat or in my luggage and connect it to this I'm pretty sue the cops either won't notice this uses my phone or I can at least argue it's not possible to interact with the phone whilst riding lol Up until now I've been using my apple watch as a kind of loophole (as the law specifically say phone) but it's a bit sketchy using it on your wrist with audio only directions and I don't trust putting it on the bars lol Thank you so much!
Jon Pram - It’s interaction with a phone is a mute point. Your phone does update the Beeline unit via Bluetooth but that happens in automatically the background. If this counts as using your phone then it sounds like you have repressive government.
I really like my Beeline. Think it is much safer than a sat nav as the display is so instinctive and simpler to follow. Less time is needed looking at it. You can plan a interesting route by putting in as many way points as you like on the app. It also uses hardly Amy battery or data on your Android or i phone. It comes as std with a longer hinged strick/bolt on mount. Bolt on handle bar and a selection of other mounts are sold separately. 😎
I stopped the video after 15 minutes and ordered one, with a Ram adapter. I had the same experience with my iPhone - the vibes killed the autofocus, twice! Fortunately mine was under warranty. They replaced the camera the first time, then gave me a new phone the second. That also confirmed (in my mind, at least) that vibration killed it. I have a Garmin Montana, but I find the GUI unintuitive and it’s bulky. Beeline’s website says you can import GPX files into the app, which sealed the deal for me.
I just put the app on my phone and was playing around with it. I found that you can select route options just like Google Maps, namely the “avoid highways” option. My KTM 690 Enduro R can go to freeway (motorway?) speeds, but it’s not fun. I use that option when planning a ride to a trailhead.
i got one of those, it's really sweet. i actually left it on my bike for a night in a really sketchy street and no one bothered ;) also, sometimes i just put the northern most point as reference and use it as a compass. :)
@@Trevor_Austin Not trying to be a pedant but to clarify, it has a backlight? Also as you have experience, are you tied to the proprietary satnav app or does it work with Google maps? Thanks.
Confused. At 7.01 you stated its not a back-lit screen, relies on reflected light, then, in comments above you said the back-light works well. I do travel at night, so can you throw some light on the matter. ( Pun intended...lol )
You didn’t mention the RAM mount option - comes with a standard RAM ball, and as you mentioned, you just twist it off it’s mounting plate and stick it in your pocket. Great device
all very nice but £150 for one of these !!!! i recently bought a waterproof ulefone x7 for under £80, it does everything as its an android phone, full navigation (off line maps), calls, music, everything !
I got one earlier this year too and it’s been great. Cheaper than something like a Garmin and no faffy wires to connect to the bike battery or anything like that. I’ve explored a ton of a little country roads this year that I’d previously avoided for fear of getting hopelessly lost! I guess my one minor criticism is sometimes it doesn’t know the difference between a left turn and a left bend... it might tell you continue for 5 miles but then you find you’ve gone off route because you followed the road but it wanted you to make a turn that it thought was a continuation of the road. All that said, it’s obvious when it’s happened, do a quick u-turn and all is good. I’m not sure how confident I’d be using it round a busy city centre in rush hour because of the basic display, but for leisure riding I highly recommend it
>Cheaper than something like a Garmin and no faffy wires to connect to the bike battery or anything like that. Not so sure about that. I am using a 2nd hand eTrex20 ($30) which is a little bit bigger, but has a proper navigation system and doesn't rely on my phones battery and bluetooth. Ah, and yes, i have to replace the two AA batteries every week. ;-)
That's my experience of it too. And because you don't actually have the route displayed in front of you, it isn't possible to make intuitive decisions about the route you are being taken on.
I just use google maps on my phone (whilst its in my pocket) with a bluetooth connection to my sena to give me voice directions whenever I need them - works brilliantly for me 👍 Great video though!
I’ve had my beeline for about 6 months now, I am really pleased with it, I think your review was very lazy, you have not mentioned all the different mounts you can get, have you been really using it, you don’t know about the back light, you haven’t mentioned about the compass mode, ( route mode ) how to plan a route on the map, how it tracks all your rides, and the heat map is really good, you can see everywhere you have been, and it can re route you if you take a wrong turn,
@@everythinggaming7938 it acts like a compass always pointing to your chosen destination but not giving turn by turn directions. This means you can find your own route without getting lost.
Seems ridiculous that it doesn't have voice guidance. Glancing down at a screen should be something you do rarely just to double check a turn or something. If they stick a voice guide in it I'd get one, especially if you can set a pulse sound that quickens as you approach your turn so you really don't have to look down at all
Iv just deleted my Last comment saying that it rubbish an mine was having issues. Iv fixed it well sort of it wasn't broken to start with it was my phone was not working properly.
Another excellent video! while I do not like the sat-nav thing, can see its appeal. But not for me. However, I will be buying the jeans and jacket. Look great! Are they warm?
It’s not „SatNav“. Your phone does the nav and the unit just displays it. Works great when you are in a metro area with good cell reception. If you are in the boonies where you have limited or no cell reception, you are screwed anf the unit becomes an expensive paperweight.
Have to be honest, quite intrigued by the little gadget. One question though, how does it live up to annoying multi-lane highway exists where one lane goes up, another drops below and one just exits regularly. I Always got confused by navigation ques like "take a slight left". Which bloody left? There are three of them. I always zoom out to see which one is the correct one or try to match the road signs with the exit indication of the map. Also... If you want/need a good phone mount, I use the RAM mount with 4 arms. I used them for years, never had a drop. In the past, just to feel safe, I had a phone case where I could route a small string through and I looped the string around the handlebar. But since 2-3 years, I trust the RAM mount so completely and never use the string backup anymore.
Hey Ilker! We have a few symbols for those cases 😊: ridebeeline.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/77000227608-following-directions-on-beeline-moto
Excuse me Professor Fly 🪰 can you please clarify which GoPro your using on the handlebars and which mount that is? It looks smaller than most gopro’s. Is it a session by any chance ?
Looking further into it, its far too expensive for what it is, a phone repeater hinged off google maps. Landed in Aus its over $300 and the latest Garmin Zumo XT is $800 which will work in remote areas out of mobile range.
Nice. Particularly like that it excels where phones don't... Waterproof and enhanced by sunlight rather than ruined by screen glare. Penny saving time!
Its a nice and elegant system. Ideal for pushbikes or those escooters. But oh dear what a price to ask for for what is just a bluetooth phone add on display, considering the sort of full on sat nav you can get for the same money and without illumination (presumably to extend battery life) its useless at night and the simple display will be a bit vague at a complex junction, It is very neat but it needs to be £100 cheaper at least.. All in all its better to keep last years mobile phone and run Waze on it....
Mine fell out of its holder though I had been very careful. That as they say is that. In a rural area it was difficult to use and couldn't re-route if you deviated at all. My sister. loves hers for city bicycle riding. So mixed results here. Notsurehow much "Sat"there is in this nav.
I purchased the Triumph version of the moto, only used it occasionally and it was in as new condition. Went to used it a couple of weeks back and it started up normally but saying there was an update available. So in the middle of the update it stopped. I contacted Beeline an they told me to try a few things which all failed and acually caused the display to bleed pixels. They then told me the unit has hardware problems and stated I would have to pay to have it repaired. The support email process took two weeks due to each time you reply to an email you get an automated response sayign the team will be in touch. Buyer Beware.
I've not had an issue as I now use an 11 Max Pro with the big battery, like all satnavs it will drain the phone battery to a degree - though of course in this case the big colour screen isn't being used on the phone so its not as bad as say using google maps or TomTom on the phone....
What a waste of money. Google maps with an earphone will guide you much better, with real-time traffic updates and letting you keep your eyes on the road where they belong. And it works just fine at night.
I’ve had my Beeline for almost a year and the dedicated SatNav has not been used once since, even on tour. One point I think you missed is that the app does not use much of your phones power as you do not need the phones screen on while navigating. I found a full day on the bike with the beeline running only used about 30% of my iPhone charge. This is of course without having to charge the phone on the move. Other than that, a great review.
Brilliant info, thanks.
The one question I had, answered. Spot on.
Just revisiting this video after the prompt from Andy's latest sponsorship announcement. I am interested, but concerned about how it performs at night. Any comments? Like the concept, battery life, general design, but just the one question.
I've an MZ that I've spent a fortune on (£600 engine rebuild and £240 after market charging/ignition system are just for staters) but it still looks crap/old/cheap which what I want. A discreet gadget like this keeps up the pretence that we're riding round in 1964.. Hmmmm might get one.
Did like the dual camera footage. It’s nice to vary the view for the final edit. May I suggest that you mount the camera facing you more forward and higher. You are a constant black silhouette as you shot it. Still better than a boring all forward view.
If you have your bluetooth headset connected and a call comes in does the beeline carry on regardless? Great review, love the distraction outtake too!!
Very interesting. Tomtom replacement or not?... Also, it'll use mobile data won't it? Thanks for the upload. ☺
Hey Russ - sorry I missed your comment.....and no, it won't replace your tomtom because you need your phone for this to work, the phone basically provides the GPS and intelligence, this is just a front end....and yes, it uses mobile data. Great to hear from you!! Hope all is well??? My daughter now lives in Nottingham (near that Banksie), so might see you around!
@@TheMissendenFlyer thanks for the reply. Let me know when you head up here and we'll hook up. ☺
A nice neat bit of kit. On a fashion note, your base layer is it , winter/summer, or all year round and is it wicking, thank you
I wear mine all year round, seems to wick the sweat yes...quick drying too...
Thank you for replying, looks like a Xmas present then
I know that by not using the screen of my phone, the battery life of your phone is longer but if using bluetooth and gps (even if the screen is not on), How much percentage does the battery drain on your phone if I use the beeline?
If normally my phone has a battery life of 8h (it is a example) but using the beeline it would be 5 hours (it would drain me 3h of my phone to use the beeline!) for using bluetooth and gps (even if the screen is not on), it would be a problem. I think the interesting thing is to know what is left of your phone so my question would be, how much does it really take from my phone's battery to use the beeline?
Good question - ive not done the calculation….
@@TheMissendenFlyer a estimate?
Is the display backlight for night time use?
Hmm like the look of this! Didnt get it at first but makes sense especially for us multi bike folk!
Badda bing
Be better on a bike with less "Plaggy" tho' mate - mebbiz an Africa Twin 😁👍👀.. Totally agree by the way, as per my reply to TMF's vid yesterday 😘
Excellent done vlog though 🚭
It's perfect if you're nipping from bike to bike...or indeed borrowing other peoples bikes from odd places!
Too expensive for me, I’ll stick to my map, but to be honest I’m a retired lorry driver, and after 40 Years of driving 12 hours a day and probably 3 million miles I’ve a pretty good idea where I’m going, plus I find when I have used a Satnav it always takes me the long way round 🤣😂 I think Young people rely too much on satnav’s, having said that Sky Demon is great when flying light aircraft as you will know 😉👍
@siemenssx1 I use a map or have a quick look at Google maps on my iPad before I set off, if I click on the roads I need, I can usually get a picture reference, so when I get there I recognise my surroundings, it always works for me, if you plan your Journey before you set off, you won’t get lost, but you can’t get lost on a small Island like UK 😂🇬🇧👍
Why is everything especially designed for motorcycles so expensive? I'd rather just buy a second hand phone for £50 and mount that.
Well you can do that and where I need full feature satnav (eg when I'm off-road) I do the same with an old phone - this though I find a neat and very portable solution, works very well for my particular use case where I need to quickly and easily move the nav between bikes....
PS if you think everything to do with bikes are expensive try aeroplanes!!
@@TheMissendenFlyer I can barely afford MS Flight Sim and a yoke 🤣
@@TheMissendenFlyer Same with boats and chandlers. Top tip, when you need something non-nautical for a boat cabin, go to a caravan spares dealer and get the same item half price.
Your so right. Manufactures think if its motorcycle related then double the price
How much! F me you can get a fully operational Tom Tom (other makes available) for that and look good too and presentable. I usually agree with your findings Tmf but not things time - thanks but no thanks.
Yep, its WAY OVER PRICED {IMHO}
I'd much rather have this. Small, discreet, would look better on classic bikes.
I just use tomtom rider 550 hardwired ignition switched, no battery worry and no phone needed and big screen.
Such a good piece of kit, been using it for 12 months now and it’s god for Sports bikes and tourers. Plotting your own route is excellent and keeping a record of where you have been. Excellent review by TMF
Been watching ebay for a cheap one for months. This video wont be helping me... thanks for that 😜
ChilliJonCarne It think you gonna be waiting for a long time, it seems like everyone who buys it likes it and are gonna keep them.
@@xpabz Haha aww we love that idea! Hope you don't have to wait too long though ChilliJonCarne 😁. Join our mailing list (via our website) if you like - we do do special offers eveeeery now and then 😉
Bought one of these a couple of months ago and absolutely love it. As Andy said no more worries about your expensive phone getting damaged. The device itself is completely waterproof, tough and very portable. Battery life is amazing. Also I can see the screen in all lights. Best £150 I ever spent. And yes Andy did forget to talk about the directional feature and the fact that it will reroute you if you missed your turn. Beeline do a great little video explaining everything. Thanks for reviewing TMF.
So glad to hear this Puddleduck!! Thank you 😁😁😁
You've got too much money, congratulations........and secondly, see the comments by other users who claim it cannot tell difference between a left turn off, and the road turning left.
@@tonebonetones "you've got too much money". What an unnecessary and shitty comment. I bought the Beeline, love it and said so and why. Now you have a nice day son.
Awesome! You and I are about the same age so that little tiny thing has changed from when you’d fold up a map and stick into the clear waterproof cover of a tank bag.... 👍😎
This feature is built into the KTM TFT as standard "KTM MY Ride", though the phone app costs £7.99 which grates a bit after spending £10,000 on a bike.
KTM: Nice bike you got there. It would be a shame if you were to... get lost...
Sorry TMF but I really don't see the point. To me it seems like just a gimmick. I'd much rather use the free offline maps on my phone secured by a quad lock. I know you had a problem with your phone using the quad lock but I have toured all of Europe including Scandinavia and all of eastern Australia and never had an issue with either the phone or the quad lock.
Well done you! I never had an issue either until the phone got damaged!
I see Beeline are collaborating with Triumph now.
Got my triumph version on order!
@@chrisdigital link to order the triumph version? I googled it said reach out to dealership
@@ranjeet1449 Yes, I had to call my local dealer and they special ordered it for me. It's coming in a month.
Brilliant! That's on my wishlist! Thank you mr Flyer. The jacket without armpur is clever since I use a Knox "underwear" with protection. Which is the best piece of kit ever.
My pleasure!
For $200 USD you get a proprietary app that won't work as well as Google maps, a proprietary charger which you won't have right when you need it, and a tiny display to look down at rather than voice prompts that let you focus on your surroundings. Oh, and your phone is still doing all the work so there goes that battery. Hmmm. Normally we're pretty on the same page but I think I'm going to pass on this one. Still a fun vid though - cheers!
Matt Heere - I disagree. The app works as well as Google maps without gobbling up your data. You take the charger with you if you think you will be using if for more than a 30 hours and the display is big enough to be seen at a glance. Battery usage is reasonable. A 150 mile drive cost me about 20% of my iPhone XR battery (with my wife prodding away at the screen looking for other things).
Damn that jacket looks like you stole it from Kim Jong-UN the supreme emperor of North Korea 🇰🇵 🤣🤣🤷♂️🤷♂️
So it does! Turns out he’s a bit of a hipster!
TMF - Our Great Leader.
Colin Goldthorpe, no way it's about 10 sizes too small
These are really good and do save your phone's camera from vibration damage to the optical stabilisation. I never ride without it and have the handlebar and elastic mount as well as the ball mount.
Woo, so glad to hear it Michael! Thank you so much for buying one 😁
Got mine in the Kickstarter campaign.
@@nietschean1 Oooh! Awesome. Thanks for supporting us the whole way along :)
Just get a soft phone case mount.
So that means if you are somewhere with no phone signal the unit stops working? Western Australia is a huge place.
I deleted my previous comment because there were some inaccuracies on my part, and then I got an email with your response (which I believe is also gone). Sorry for that, it wasn't on purpose but just a case of bad timing. Anyway, the gist of my comment is that I find it too expensive for the little convenience it brings. I said in my comment that I think there's a lot of shortcomings with this device, most notably no voice instructions and no backlit screen (how do you use it at night?), and also that other more complete solutions exist for not much more money (cheap smartphone just for nav, smartwatch, your phone on the pocked with voice guidance...). I'd also like to say that my opinion is obviously opposite of yours, and that's fine - I'm not downplaying your opinion, I'm just expressing mine. What I find disappointing is when you said you only made the video because you like the device. Why wouldn't you make a video if you disliked it?! That's how you stay credible.
Because I waned to spread the word for a gadget I've found to be useful...I assumed others may find it useful too. I had no issue with your previous comment, there was no need to delete it! All the best...TMF
I love my Beeline Moto. I didn't want a full blown sat nav, I just wanted a means of plotting a route on the app, adding waypoints as required, and then just enjoying the ride. It has a compass mode as well as a route mode. It also has an auto back-light, it turns on when it gets dark or you can turn it on manually. In the box it also comes with other fittings. Its not to everyone's taste, some rider's love large satnavs, for me its perfect. You can also upload GPX files to your phone and then navigate routes that way as well. I have mine mounted on a go-pro handlebar bracket, the adapter is standard in the box. Enjoyed your review 👍
Thank you Del - I agree, a neat solution, works for me!
Can anyone comment how this handles proper city driving? I would like one, but concerned it wouldn’t really work for me. What happens when you need to be in lane 2 with 4 options?! Seems like it only works on basic A and B roads...
PS. Nice vid TMF, as always. Thanks.
Good question. A direct answer is that the Beeline icon will tell you what you have to do at the next junction. In this case it will be either a merge or filter to the left or right.
This is really cool! I'll have to save this for when I can get another motorcycle. I could probably use this in my car too. Thanks for making a video about this.
It works well in a car as well. You can either use the Beeline jobby or the phone or both. Maybe the phone in “map” and the Beeline as standard. The supplementary mount supplied as standard uses the same connection format as GpPro’s so the mounting options are numerous.
The directional function is great for those exploring or not too bothered about accuracy in directions. Nice to know roughly what direction/distance you need to go in while enjoying the ride with no restrictions.
I've been using one of these since they came out as a kickstarter style campaign. I've been generally very pleased with it and it's perfect if you want something unobtrusive. Looks better on my vespa than full featured satnav too. Replaced my tomtom with it and haven't missed it.
£150/£200 ? lovely bit of kit but seriously you can buy a good quality GPS system for less. I think if I had a Christmas wish-list then this would certainly be on it, but no way I would pay that kind of money for an LCD display that connects via Bluetooth to my phone? plus how does it fit with clip-ons? But then again there is no way I would pay £1000 for a phone haha (BTW it's £99 for the Bicycle version which is odd as I cannot see any real difference)
One of the most useful reviews I've seen of this device, cheers 👍
A great review. Obviously there are a limits to what you can include in a video of this length. The things not mentioned include the ability to modify the default route by inserting way points, the “non route mode” where you decide the route and the Beeline gives you distance and direction. The beasty also has backlighting, manual or automatic. The app gives you the ability to import GPX files and will also automatically share files with your iPad and iPhone. Lastly, the biggest thing is that you I can try the device without buying it. Download the app and run it without the device. Use the tutorial to learn how to make routes and then the Beeline display will be shown on your phone. That can be used in a car, on a bus or on your bike. I’m a great fan of Beeline and the thing that I most appreciate is that navigation is reduced to the basics; how far is the next turn, which direction and “are we nearly there yet?”
Thanks for that lot Trevor - I've been using mine since February and didn't know some of that! I'll pin your comment if you don't mind as this is good info...
Hi dose it takes to you or just the signal
So that's what could've ruined my iphones focus... It stopped working a few month ago and didn't know why because to my knowledge I hadn't dropped it.
Your main camera doesn't focus correctly or waves appear in your photo. Camera is busted :(
Another positive I can think of is: Where I’m from we have long curving country roads that are wooded and sometimes have steep drop-offs. If you’re alone and for some reason you go off road and become incapacitated from injury it’s way better to have you phone on your person in order to call for help.
Holy cow! Finally someone else is pointing this out with me! I can’t believe no one else is really pointing this out. Even if your not injured, your phone is probably going for a short flight and then you’re playing Easter egg hunt.
The Beeline-Moto looks great, but the price on extra plastic mounts is price-gouging as is the $50 postage cost to Australia.
20:11 into the video. The BEST part, had me cracking up 🤣 Busted! I do and say the exact thing. Too Funny Andy, love the kit corner and bloopers 👍🏻
Glad you enjoyed the video - thanks for watching!
I was hoping it would be cheaper I'm sure I could find a sat nav for £150
A Quick look on EBay motorcycle sat nav £85
Bluetooth headset connected to phone using waze or googlemaps with voice commands ... cheaper, safer and no faffing with even more stuff on the bars!
Another excellent option, I do this frequently. Different strokes though, some people prefer visual cues rather than spoken directions.
@@user-cx2bk6pm2f but 150 for that
@@dardobartoli Yep, it's simply a rip at £150. I sometimes use waze or just as easy, pull over for 30 seconds to check Google maps.
Waze is excellent but burns battery life quickly. Using the Beeline avoids this problem on longer journeys. I also prefer visual cues and references.
Why do people still use Waze? Google maps now has the "reporting" function to alert on police, road debris, accident, etc.
Looks ok, unfortunate name if you ever watch a “bee line” lol. 😁
Had one since April and can highly recommend.
A few quirks: gets confused when phone has no signal (usually momentary), finicky when you miss a waypoint, not the best navigating complicated junctions and it's pricey.
On the upside: screen is stunningly bright, form factor brilliant, easy to read and understand, can import GPX files.
Anyone wanna buy my TomTom?
Thanks for the feedback - i agree all round!
I don't know man for a lower price I can buy an old waterproof phone and dedicate it just to navigation, with a better and bigger screen and clearer indications, ESPECIALLY in old towns where you might have to take several turns in just few meters
I have a profound dislike of satnavs mounted where I have to take my eyes off the road. Best option is voice prompts to your helmet, or if you have to look at it at least have it in your peripheral vision not down on the ‘bars.
It would be interesting to see a direct comparison between Beeline, Calimoto, phone apps & turn-by-turn on TFTs, and I wonder how long it will be before Cardo, Sena etc integrate a nav app into their products? But for the time being I will stick with the more functional Satnav I’ve already paid for!
I have my sat-nav in my car set to speak Flemish, she is called Anna or some such, reminds me of the 1980s porn videos of my youth. Alas, can't tell a word she says.
Looks an option of you don't want to buy a nav or risk damaging your i phone TMF. Does it recalculate the route if you miss a turn and can you also get spoken directions from the phone app if you have a bluetooth headset as I find that particularly useful both in the car and on the bike with my current satnavs?
My word indeed😂
yes and no....
Eye's on the road! What was the symbol on the navigation for 'look right, pavement distraction!' 😅
Sadly not a function they appear to have built in - luckily my sensors for that sort of thing are highly sensitive...
Totally cracked me up 😂😂
£1000 for a phone, buy a good bike for that, bloody hell 🙄.
Tell me about it....
A great review TMF of a great product. Had one myself since May. Bought the gunmetal metal cased version, as I manage to drop stuff regularly! 🤪. I am amazed at the negativity some people have about the beeline on the comments. As always, it’s personal choice. I love how discreet this is and I don’t want to put my phone, shaking about on the handlebars. I also find the beeline far less distracting than a traditional sat nav screen and love the lack of voice commands - allows you to enjoy the ride a lot more and see more! One thing not mentioned in the video is the ‘non route’ mode - love this mode! You can put your destination in, but make your own way there with no fixed route, allowing you to explore different roads and villages in your own time and find new places / pubs! My partner loves that and is what makes biking more interesting for her!
Great device, happy with the price and the freedom it gives to go a lot further afield without being obtrusive.
I’m with you Mick!
Good review, but too expensive for myself compared to a decent old phone, if they dropped the price down by half then for sure.
Got a beeline for Christmas last year, I love it, oh and by the way, it does have a a back light. 👍😀
I was going to ask that, thank you 👍
Well that answers my question
I connect my phone satnav to my Bluetooth ear piece and it tells me in My ear where to go..I don’t need to look at a screen.
Fair enough - I don't use a BT earpiece.....
Are people aware that most phone mounts aren't secure enough to resist a crash? So when you need your phone most, i. e. to call for help after going down, you find an empty mount and have no idea where the phone got slung to. If this device helps keep your phone in a safe place, it's worth it's weight in gold.
G. You are right. I use a mount for my phone, but I have often thought I would not have it to hand if I were to have a bingle
A great point you raised
@@murraycharters6102 I learned a related lesson when my phone was in a locked pannier and a crash locked the locking mechanism 😖
Excellent. I never knew these existed. Think it looks really smart and I've now done a bit of research on them, I think its a class product. I'll be getting one. The compass mode looks like fun too !
would be nice if that interfaced with Waze instead of using its own routing?
Really anthing that didn't mean proprietary app that gets shut off at somepoint. I'll still be ordering one I think, but yeah, would be better with just google maps/waze integration
@@jonpram1737 The main issue is that now this app needs to support good map material that is already available in other apps (waze/Google Maps).. Does Beeline use OSM? That might be useful as OSM can be edited by the community, but integrations like reports and traffic which waze/Google has will be missing, Does beeline have useful options for distinguishing different route types? (Calimoto, Kurviger).
@@jonpram1737 I'm sure i read somewhere that it uses google's map. However i do agree that it would be nice if it didn't even need it's own app.
That go pro on helmet looks mahoooosive is that the new 9 😎☝️🤪🇬🇧🏍🇬🇧 sat nav looks cool 😎 but how well dose it work in a city
Morning, thanks for the review. Does it constantly use your phone data whilst riding, or does it just use that little bit of data when you upload the map in the first instance?
I suspect it uses it all the time - there is no map uploaded to the device, it's just a slave display....your phone is doing all the real work (this keeps it off your handlebars)...
Thanks for the reply, I guess this device is not for me then because at present my data package on my mobile is quite low and so I suspect a couple of uses would end up using my monthly allowance. Will look to upgrade once out of contract.
I’m not sure I agree with you. I think it gets the route uploaded to your phone when you set off and only looks to the phone if you go off-route to redirect you. If your phone was doing the work you’d have a flat phone battery in no time and in my experience that isn’t the case
Hey all! First of all, thanks to The Missenden Flyer for the review - we are totally chuffed :). Cheers.
@Schuey, the app will use data if it needs to re-route you but if you are concerned about data use you can save all of your routes in the app in advance and then use your Beeline Moto with your phone in airplane mode (just Bluetooth needed). It won't re-route you if you take a wrong turn but it will route you back to where you went off track :)
@@ridebeeline Thanks, so I guess it uses data when you initially calculate the route before you set off, and then again if it needs to reroute. Otherwise, it just mirrors the route from your phone via Bluetooth to the device without a continuous drain on data?
Nice device. I’m guessing your phone is the device that is doing the sat navigation and this is just the display? I find that using my phone as a sat Nav really creams my battery over the day , even with the big battery in an iPhone pro max - does this do the same?
I've got one, it works. Love it 😁
Good aren’t they....
Wooo, so glad to hear! Thanks so much for buying one Chip 😁
Ooooh, I've been looking for exactly this for ages!
Where I live you can't use your phone for 3 years after passing your test for any function (urgh). I've looked at all the motorcycle standalone GPS options and they're pretty much all expensive or just 2000 tech at 2020 prices. All I wanted was a portable google maps I could connect to the internet somehow, but not much about. I suppose technically this would still be illegal as it does use the phone, but TBH I think it's low risk enough to be worth it - put my phone under the seat or in my luggage and connect it to this I'm pretty sue the cops either won't notice this uses my phone or I can at least argue it's not possible to interact with the phone whilst riding lol
Up until now I've been using my apple watch as a kind of loophole (as the law specifically say phone) but it's a bit sketchy using it on your wrist with audio only directions and I don't trust putting it on the bars lol
Thank you so much!
Jon Pram - It’s interaction with a phone is a mute point. Your phone does update the Beeline unit via Bluetooth but that happens in automatically the background. If this counts as using your phone then it sounds like you have repressive government.
Jon Pram I’m just curious to know which country you live in, I have never heard a law like that before.
Why didn't you mention the directional function of the beeline? It's my favourite thing. Just points to your destination and the rest is up to you :)
Erm, no good excuse I can think of - there’s more to the Beeline than meets the eye!
I really like my Beeline. Think it is much safer than a sat nav as the display is so instinctive and simpler to follow. Less time is needed looking at it.
You can plan a interesting route by putting in as many way points as you like on the app. It also uses hardly Amy battery or data on your Android or i phone. It comes as std with a longer hinged strick/bolt on mount. Bolt on handle bar and a selection of other mounts are sold separately. 😎
So glad to hear this, thanks Graham! 😁
Bin looking for something like this looks good compacted instead of having a big x grip i don't trust will be getting one thanks
I stopped the video after 15 minutes and ordered one, with a Ram adapter. I had the same experience with my iPhone - the vibes killed the autofocus, twice! Fortunately mine was under warranty. They replaced the camera the first time, then gave me a new phone the second. That also confirmed (in my mind, at least) that vibration killed it. I have a Garmin Montana, but I find the GUI unintuitive and it’s bulky. Beeline’s website says you can import GPX files into the app, which sealed the deal for me.
Nice one....
I just put the app on my phone and was playing around with it. I found that you can select route options just like Google Maps, namely the “avoid highways” option. My KTM 690 Enduro R can go to freeway (motorway?) speeds, but it’s not fun. I use that option when planning a ride to a trailhead.
Wooo! Thanks so much Thomas 😁. We hope that you love it!
I might get one of these. The compass function really interests me, just a general direction and I can have an adventure getting there.
i got one of those, it's really sweet. i actually left it on my bike for a night in a really sketchy street and no one bothered ;) also, sometimes i just put the northern most point as reference and use it as a compass. :)
Yes great little gadget aren’t they - and as you say, inconspicuous....
@@TheMissendenFlyer unfortunately for me, it is so inconscpicuous that I myself tend to forget about it... ;D
Cool little piece of kit.
How visible is the display at night? Particularly out of town?
I rarely ride at night - so haven't actually tried it!! Good point though, I'll try it and report back...
TheMissendenFlyer - The backlighting in the display works really well.
@@Trevor_Austin Not trying to be a pedant but to clarify, it has a backlight? Also as you have experience, are you tied to the proprietary satnav app or does it work with Google maps? Thanks.
Confused. At 7.01 you stated its not a back-lit screen, relies on reflected light, then, in comments above you said the back-light works well. I do travel at night, so can you throw some light on the matter. ( Pun intended...lol )
You didn’t mention the RAM mount option - comes with a standard RAM ball, and as you mentioned, you just twist it off it’s mounting plate and stick it in your pocket. Great device
I didn't know that Ian - cheers...
all very nice but £150 for one of these !!!! i recently bought a waterproof ulefone x7 for under £80, it does everything as its an android phone, full navigation (off line maps), calls, music, everything !
I got one earlier this year too and it’s been great. Cheaper than something like a Garmin and no faffy wires to connect to the bike battery or anything like that. I’ve explored a ton of a little country roads this year that I’d previously avoided for fear of getting hopelessly lost!
I guess my one minor criticism is sometimes it doesn’t know the difference between a left turn and a left bend... it might tell you continue for 5 miles but then you find you’ve gone off route because you followed the road but it wanted you to make a turn that it thought was a continuation of the road. All that said, it’s obvious when it’s happened, do a quick u-turn and all is good. I’m not sure how confident I’d be using it round a busy city centre in rush hour because of the basic display, but for leisure riding I highly recommend it
>Cheaper than something like a Garmin and no faffy wires to connect to the bike battery or anything like that.
Not so sure about that. I am using a 2nd hand eTrex20 ($30) which is a little bit bigger, but has a proper navigation system and doesn't rely on my phones battery and bluetooth. Ah, and yes, i have to replace the two AA batteries every week. ;-)
That's my experience of it too. And because you don't actually have the route displayed in front of you, it isn't possible to make intuitive decisions about the route you are being taken on.
It cannot tell difference between a bend and a turn off?! Seriously?? If I were you, I'd return it and get your £150 back lol.
Not as good as the BMW Nav vi, but then I suppose you need to buy a GS to go with it lol 😅😁
Did you get it free? In other words is this an advertisement? It would be good to tell the viewer. It's in the TH-cam T&C's.
The Red Wing iron ranger boots look better with the retro outfit I think...I really like the beeline device for my piaggio beverly 400S
lol, now everyone knows its an "expensive device" worth pinching
Nice useful toy but, a bit expensive... No matter what, I could buy it. Thanks @MissendenFlyer
I just use google maps on my phone (whilst its in my pocket) with a bluetooth connection to my sena to give me voice directions whenever I need them - works brilliantly for me 👍 Great video though!
Fair enough - I don't use a headset so prefer the visual cues this gives....
waze
I’ve had my beeline for about 6 months now, I am really pleased with it, I think your review was very lazy, you have not mentioned all the different mounts you can get, have you been really using it, you don’t know about the back light, you haven’t mentioned about the compass mode, ( route mode ) how to plan a route on the map, how it tracks all your rides, and the heat map is really good, you can see everywhere you have been, and it can re route you if you take a wrong turn,
Highly recommended, especially the “as the crow flies” mode as it’s a great way to find new routes.
what does that mode do
@@everythinggaming7938 it acts like a compass always pointing to your chosen destination but not giving turn by turn directions. This means you can find your own route without getting lost.
Not even watched this but have had one a year and love it 👍🏻😁
Wooohoo! Glad to hear this - thanks Blunder 🙌🥳
. . .and pretty much any sensitive electronics you think are safe to pack into your bike luggage. Bye expensive doodad.
Seems ridiculous that it doesn't have voice guidance. Glancing down at a screen should be something you do rarely just to double check a turn or something.
If they stick a voice guide in it I'd get one, especially if you can set a pulse sound that quickens as you approach your turn so you really don't have to look down at all
Jesus I just saw the price you are better off buying a SATNAV fuck me, or even a USB port and a phone holder for your motorcycle
Iv just deleted my Last comment saying that it rubbish an mine was having issues. Iv fixed it well sort of it wasn't broken to start with it was my phone was not working properly.
how do you use a satnav to an older motorcycle,there's no USB....and the satnav battery will only last 10- 15 minutes.
Another excellent video! while I do not like the sat-nav thing, can see its appeal. But not for me. However, I will be buying the jeans and jacket. Look great! Are they warm?
It’s not „SatNav“. Your phone does the nav and the unit just displays it. Works great when you are in a metro area with good cell reception. If you are in the boonies where you have limited or no cell reception, you are screwed anf the unit becomes an expensive paperweight.
Thanks Andy, good review of the Beeline. I have just bought one and it was nice to see it in operation.
Have to be honest, quite intrigued by the little gadget. One question though, how does it live up to annoying multi-lane highway exists where one lane goes up, another drops below and one just exits regularly. I Always got confused by navigation ques like "take a slight left". Which bloody left? There are three of them. I always zoom out to see which one is the correct one or try to match the road signs with the exit indication of the map.
Also... If you want/need a good phone mount, I use the RAM mount with 4 arms. I used them for years, never had a drop. In the past, just to feel safe, I had a phone case where I could route a small string through and I looped the string around the handlebar. But since 2-3 years, I trust the RAM mount so completely and never use the string backup anymore.
Hey Ilker! We have a few symbols for those cases 😊: ridebeeline.freshdesk.com/support/solutions/articles/77000227608-following-directions-on-beeline-moto
Excuse me Professor Fly 🪰 can you please clarify which GoPro your using on the handlebars and which mount that is? It looks smaller than most gopro’s. Is it a session by any chance ?
Looking further into it, its far too expensive for what it is, a phone repeater hinged off google maps. Landed in Aus its over $300 and the latest Garmin Zumo XT is $800 which will work in remote areas out of mobile range.
WOW! Interesting bit of kit, cheers. Does it re-route effectively if you go wrong?
Yep sure does....
Not always.
Nice. Particularly like that it excels where phones don't... Waterproof and enhanced by sunlight rather than ruined by screen glare. Penny saving time!
Its a nice and elegant system. Ideal for pushbikes or those escooters. But oh dear what a price to ask for for what is just a bluetooth phone add on display, considering the sort of full on sat nav you can get for the same money and without illumination (presumably to extend battery life) its useless at night and the simple display will be a bit vague at a complex junction, It is very neat but it needs to be £100 cheaper at least.. All in all its better to keep last years mobile phone and run Waze on it....
Mine fell out of its holder though I had been very careful. That as they say is that. In a rural area it was difficult to use and couldn't re-route if you deviated at all. My sister. loves hers for city bicycle riding. So mixed results here. Notsurehow much "Sat"there is in this nav.
I purchased the Triumph version of the moto, only used it occasionally and it was in as new condition. Went to used it a couple of weeks back and it started up normally but saying there was an update available. So in the middle of the update it stopped. I contacted Beeline an they told me to try a few things which all failed and acually caused the display to bleed pixels. They then told me the unit has hardware problems and stated I would have to pay to have it repaired. The support email process took two weeks due to each time you reply to an email you get an automated response sayign the team will be in touch. Buyer Beware.
What's it like on iPhone battery power as its connected via bluetooth?
I've not had an issue as I now use an 11 Max Pro with the big battery, like all satnavs it will drain the phone battery to a degree - though of course in this case the big colour screen isn't being used on the phone so its not as bad as say using google maps or TomTom on the phone....
What a waste of money. Google maps with an earphone will guide you much better, with real-time traffic updates and letting you keep your eyes on the road where they belong. And it works just fine at night.
I like it. Kinda pricey, but solves a couple issues with mounting a cell phone to the handlebars.
Too limited, for 150£ I can get a cheap android phone to get destroyed by the vibrations of my bike
Charged twice or 3 times ? lol.....ahem. Excellent review as per normal, well done
Why not just use Google Maps with a blue-tooth set?! You keep the phone in your pocket and hear the directions, no need to take your eyes of the road.
I have the Nav 6 on my beemer. Great little gadget tho. Now I just need a second bike to put it on!! 🤔😬