LOL remember parking next to a pair of lovely new Ducati, still used my usual locks and chains. Hopes Ducati would be be there for duration of my parking
It’s a shame we live in a country where serious crime isn’t taken seriously. We should be able to leave our pride and joys without worrying about them disappearing.
Of course murder is more serious. But if you're ok with somebody having their pride and joy nicked then your the Muppet. No proper biker would even come out with such crap.
@@nickolaswinter2975 Stealing property costs money, money costs time. Time is life. Stealing life isn't cool, even if its only 40-100 hrs from me so i can earn the money back to make good my situation. Fuck thieves.
Another security tip, put your tools away in a locked cabinet or tool box.... having drills, lump hammers, chisels, screwdrivers, pry bars etc all on your peg board ready to help any thief once they are in your garage is just going to make their life so much easier 👍
I'm a blacksmith and I can tell you the harder a steel is the easier it is to cut with a angle grinder. that chain I could cut a link out and bypass the lock in 30 seconds. if you want to mess up a angle grinder attack you need something soft to gum up the blade. Kevlar is very good, they use it in chainsaw safety trousers to foul the blade and it'll do the same on grinder disks
Thanks for the advice. I've heard that with new battery technology (to eliminate 2-stroke engines on chain-saws etc). that new lightweight ultra powerful battery powered cutters are available. A forced entry thief's dream!
I like the 'layered' approach. I keep my three push bikes in a quiet covered area outside the house and I use various chain and cable locks; I've noticed the covers have been moved without my permission on two occasions over the past ten years. The thieves saw the cables and chains and just walked on. Thieves are wary of cameras and movement sensitive lights and alarms too. They hate hassle; give them hassle!!
One other very simple little security measure i take is to cover my bikes in old sheets / blankets etc so if anyone is passing when the garage door is open they won't see any shiny new metal that might tempt them. They also won't see any of the security measures i have in place protecting the bikes so won't be able to plan ahead for what to deal with. A case of what the eye doesn't see the heart doesn't yearn for. It also keeps the dust off. I'm not sure on trackers, its a lot of expense and agg to help when the bike has been stolen. I use chains and ground anchors in the hope that i can stop the bikes being stolen in the first place. I also use a natty device which locks the brake lever closed and prevents the front wheel from moving. Its impossible to try and ride off with it in place like you might with a disc lock and is very quick and easy to use.
@@johnclifton3512 I've not seen a bike that uses cables for brakes. Do you mean the hydraulic line from the master cylinder? That would make quite a mess.
I’ve been working for a security company for 20+ years and I would highly recommend a Smoke cloak or similar linked to your alarm, very good bit of kit when combined with a 240v siren. If they can’t see it they can’t try and cut it in the first place 👍
I liked FortNine's comment about lock security when Ryan said that you know your bike lock can survive a 5 minute sustained attack simply by parking your bike outside in the UK for 6 minutes. By the way, bought the Monimoto tracker after your review, what a nice bit of kit!
When I was in the UK army my buddy used smoke grenades when his Lambretta scooter was locked up in his parents shed in Hull. We got a call when we were in Bosnia that they were activated, When his mom went to get the lawn mower out, and moved his prized scooter. Needless to say the bosses were not happy, as you did a declaration when you leave the ranges and training areas after using pyrotechnics🤓🤓🤓 Beaky was one of those mod guys he’d ride that scooter all the way to Osabruck Germany and back every year, raccoons tail flying in the wind!!!!!!
Logan our Airedale reckons GSD are all wusses ;) Ah, the screaming in the night - that'll be the burglar. Any dog that will raise the alarum and you won't be visited by scumbags.
Great video and the right balance between your appreciated impartiality and disclosed benefits/links to providers. Nice work and appreciated. Love the human mistakes at the end. Proper bloke!
Despite all your security Andy I think the most significant deterrent you have is the prospect of a lowlife bike thief breaking in and finding you exercising in Lycra.
Fantastic - just got a Litelok Moto for my m/c and a Gold Wearable for my bike, 10% off - thanks TMF!! I didn't even know these products existed before watching your video.
I personally have discovered that an alarmed disc lock works a treat. Louder the better. A thief is going to think twice about shoving a bike in a van when the alarm is blowing their ear drums out.
Not only a great video, very useful information .You have now saved me £10 on my purchase of a Litelok .For years I have been looking for a practical and light lock for touring ,and bang you shown me one .Save taking my heavy old chain .Thanks MSF
You have some brilliant products there, my secure garage is already like Fort Knox with heavy duty Thatcham Locks to ground anchors, but that Guardsman barrier and LiteLok for my travels very tempting. Glad to see your both working out, cheers TMF.
@@TheMissendenFlyer and turns out, a good vid too! I haven't got a garage unfortunately but both my bikes have good quality covers and 2 locks on and I've never had an issue (touch wood!).
Just strip and fray some spare wires you have laying around and strategically place them sticking out of the frame and pour some oil around your parked bike...instant deterrent lol
Good work once again, if storing your bike for months on end take the front wheel out and chain it to the rear wheel or frame that will stop your casual thief/scum bag in his tracks, (you will need a paddock stand) it’s a bit of a ball ache but once you’ve done it a few times it’s not too much bother, I used to be able to remove front and rear slicks and replace with wets in about 10/15 mins when club racing.......and it was usually pissing down with rain to make it more interesting.
Bikes are very often picked up by the handlebars by thieves and rolled on their back wheels. Disk locks on rear disks (as well as front) are a very good idea. Place the lock so that it’s necessary to unlock it through the wheel between the spokes. Don’t leave it sticking out in the breeze, that’s just an invitation to attack. Locking the back wheel with a chain and a disk lock is a double deterrent and a double disincentive. The best affordable locks to use with chains are good quality shutter locks. Link chains over the seat if you can’t get it through the frame. Never lay chains on the ground. Put CCTV cameras behind windows pointing at the street, as well as high up out of reach outside. They act as a great deterrent.
@@Trevor_Austin gun laws are very strict where I live, so that's out. I think that theft market, if we can call like that, is just different. You can leave a new GS out unprotected with most likely no problems, but a new VW Golf might dissapear quickly.
There's a channel that's run by moto tracker ? Can't remember name but they do GPS tracking for stolen vehicles in the UK. Its like a British version of cops all proper like...
My last bike was stolen by cutting through a d lock, a disc lock and a19mm chain with an angle grinder, lifting the bike out past where it was blocked in by a van and then finding and removing the biketrac tracker. The last layer of the onion is the insurance company which will pay out when all else fails (once I mailed them all the keys to the multiple security devices and the photo of the 19mm chain link cut in half). And Trevor all the personal protection in the world won't help if they do all this while you aren't there. I've chased off thieves by shining a maglite before, it's when I don't get there in time all this is needed.
Anything you can use as a deterrent that’s visible before a thief even gets in your garage helps- CCTV that’s well positioned Garage alarm Parking your car up to the garage door when possible If you have driveway gates lock them Good security lights An electric shutter garage door (way harder to bust into) Also on another point keep your bikes out of view in the daytime as much as possible I wash mine round the back, plenty will scope out properties and see who has what to steal in the day. Great video nice to see some good bits of kit
Magnetic Vision it’s not perfect but it’s not useless I’ve seen quite a few people prosecuted after they were identified from a cctv image. It’s also good for catching thieves vehicles and registration plates they’re not all clever enough to use fake plates. If you have motion sensing cctv that will alert your phone to thieves it speeds up the time you have to act on it.
Some thoughts when using chains. Don't just put them through the wheel and lay the chain on the floor, thieves will lift the bike with the chain still attached into the back of their van and be gone in a few minutes. Chains on the floor give perfect leverage for bolt cutters, keep chains off the floor, route them through the frame, then the wheel. If you have a ground fitting in the garage fix it to the wall so the chain is off the floor when fitted to the bike. Chain bikes to each other through framework not through the wheels on the floor.
PeterS, That's great advice, but hard to follow. A lot of bikes just don't have a suitable frame gap for a chain to go through. It's something I wish manufacturers would think about when they design them to start with. If you use a thinner chain, it's easier to get through the frame, but then it's easier to cut. I use alarmed disc locks in addition to chains ( or cables when travelling), in the hope that any attempt to attack the chain will set off the alarm before the chain can be cut.
It really is a shame that we have to take such measure to keep our possessions safe from a group of people who have absolutely no morals or concern for other people's property.
Absolutely brilliant video. I use an oxford monster disc lock when out and about with the gixxes but for travelling on holiday the litelock definitely is of interest to me as having no panniers, a rather small tail bag and a tightly packed back pack space is an issue for me but the litelock would fit on top perfectly. Will be sure to use the link when I grab one soon! 10/10 for information and entertainment sir 😎👍
Excellent vid as always. I find it odd that people will spend the best part of 20k on a bike and then pull a face at spending a little bit more on added security. Once you have it, it will be there for any subsequent bikes, so you only buy once and is often way less that the insurance excess you'll be paying if your bike gets nicked. It should be a right faff to get your bike out and ready for a ride, time is your friend! If it takes you a few minutes to unlock your bike and remove any security, it's going to take that long, or longer for any scumbag to do the same, something they don't like. Even if you have one big lock and chain, adding some extra security in the form of a few cheap disc locks that can now be had for little money will slow them down, or better still have them thinking this is to much like hard work and have them moving on.
Nice Video - Thank you. What would be nice is a video of methods to applying a chain on your motorcycles in an outdoor space. Not many videos on here describing suitable methods (apart from keeping it off the ground).
Problem is, your bike might end-up in, say, Brazil - where nobody will know what an alpha dot is. Smart thieves ship a bike out of area unfortunately - especially nice ones. A great idea but don't rely on it - maybe as one layer to the onion as m'man says.
Great content as usual. Security is important. If they're gonna tek it, mek it as hard n awkward as possible for em so they mek plentya noise. Outtakes alas good for a laugh. Keep em coming Andy.
Andy, great video. Well done. A few years ago I was personally targeted by a pro bike gang. I happened to pull up at home and park near to my house but not outside. My car at the time spent 99% of the time in the garage. And the gang slowly drove past me took at look but didn’t twig that the house I had seen them casing up was actually mine. They looked snide to me. I called it in and shared the intel. At the time just thought they were thieves looking for houses to target. An hour later found out they were a top gang. I then realised that I was frequently washing my bike and drying it outside and would often leave it out to dry. Clearly they’d seen it (or someone else had) passed the info on and before I knew it they were working out how to screw my house. As you know I’m in the other side of this trade so a number of things happened quickly, including covert stuff. But one thing that was explored at the time was who knew I had it etc. I’d had tyres fitted locally and innocently had given my name and address for the invoice on a super bike. I very quickly learned how to reduce vulnerability around identifying who knows what you have and where you are from. Happy to share some extra bits with you at some point as I ended up working on some of these thieves and really began to understand their tactics. 😮 The layers of security system is DEFINATELY needs to be adhered to by EVERYONE who watches this channel.....
Thanks Andy. Another great video on a subject close to all of our hearts no doubt. I now live in New Zealand and its a bit safer than Grimsby in the uk where I'm from. However, I too have a Monimoto on the new XSR900 and its fantastic. It actually works exactly as advertised ! I ordered one of your TMF tee shirts a few weeks ago (before lock down) and it actually arrived today. I must say it's good quality and I will be wearing it down the pub at the weekend :)
I've watched lots of chain, lock and disclock reviews (yourself, Fortnine, Bennett's & many others) but what I've not yet found is anyone reviewing ground anchors. Idea for a future video ?
yep - as i have to park in my 'front garden' theres nothing to put a 22mm lock through - no ground anchors i've seen are big enough for that mammoth lock I rely mostly on being out of sight
Just took delivery of the Litelok, only ordered last week so approximately 2/3 working days, so certainly can't argue with that. Looks and feels substantial yet flexible, looking forward to using it for real. Don't often take advice from blogs but trusted you on this one!!
Don’t ask, but one of the channels TH-cam has recommended to me was The Lockpicking Lawyer. After watching a few of his videos you realise that all locks are pickable. It’s a matter of tools, technique and time. And it’s time that really matters. The more expensive you make it in terms of time, the less likely you are to have your bike stolen. Your bits of security kit will require a considerable amount of time to overcome, unless one is silly with the keys... This was, as usual, an excellent video and very informative. Thank you. Just out of interest, you did not mention a product/method such as Datatag as another possible layer of defence. Is this because you have to stop somewhere or such schemes are not value for money or that they are easily overcome?
I didn't mention all the security measures I personally use for obvious reasons! I do use Datatag too as it happens, amongst other measures....and agree, as I said at the start, nothing is completely secure, it's all about making things as difficult/awkward as possible for the bad guys...
Lockpicking is the least likely method that a thief will use to nick a bike, it's one thing to sit at home with the right tools and a bit of knowledge and pick locks successfully but it's an entirely different matter to do it at night, on you knees and under stress, in the street or even in a garage.
Love that guardsman living in wales still!!! Underlock down I've had plenty of time on my hands so I built myself a bike man cave for my three bikes I've got trackers on all of them, alfa dot , etc I've alarmed the man cave but that gaurdsman Is very appealing so I just googled them jesus there not cheap but cheaper than replacing your pride and joy I will be getting one of them in the near future just got convince the wife which wont be easy after she sees the bill for my lovely new bike shed 😁 Love the videos keep them coming
Great vid Andy, makes me think I should be doing a bit more with my security. Good to see you’ve lined up some discounts too. Hope you’re going to put more of your humour into future vids, we know you’re a funny guy.
I've seen them bend the garage door double or rip it out. It's another layer to the onion for sure but the door itself is too flimsy to defeat a determined attack.
Indeed I've been impressed with both....I think that Guardsman in particular is a brilliant idea, one of those "why didn't I think of that" type deals....
Like you say layered security is the way forward. The first one is to do the same as you do and keep your bike(s) away from prying eyes in a garage or shed, don't leave them in full view of passers by. What thieves don't want to do is spend time on site as that increases the risk of being caught, making your bike less attractive to them than somebody else's is the key as they'll nick theirs instead. Like you said outside use a cover as they don't like them either, use at least 1 disc lock ( if you only have 1 put it through the rear wheel) and if possible chain your bike to something. I have a xenon alarmed one for the front and a large oxford one for the rear. Some manufacturers such sa BMW are now fitting trackers as standard at the factory which again is another layer to encourage thieves to target someone else's bike. Another option, especially if you commute to somewhere that has a bike theft problem is to buy an older bike that's not popular with thieves to commute on rather that the latest 15k plus sparkly adventure bike that'll be in a container and on a ship quicker than the time it's taken me to type this 1 fingered on my phone. It's a sad state of affairs we have to go to these lengths to protect our possessions.
Unusually .. this is perfect timing .. I've been considering the Litelok for a while now, I shall take advantage of your generous Discount :).. Personally when I'm touring and staying in a Hotel, I use 2x oxford disc locks and a cheap alarmed one... One on each disc with the alarmed on the nearside front disc with the bike on the side stand, it goes off if it feels any shocks .. Would probably only take a couple of mins to get them off but I'd hear the alarm go off .. and hopefully they will move on to an easier target .. I have a chain but it's a bit heavy to lug around so the Litelok definitely got my attention ..
The alarm on disc locks is easy to overcome as I found out. Just spray them with filler foam, completely muffles the sound. Luckily my pragmasis ground anchor, pin and chain defeated their grinder!
I'm referring to when the bike is parked outside a Hotel or in the Hotel car park when I'm Touring .. I'd need a trailer To carry that lock and chain .. not to mention the tools and concrete mix required to install the ground anchor at my overnight stops .. lol
Life would be a lot easier and cheaper if people keep their hands off stuff that doesn´t belong to them would it? If there only was something like law enfo..... oh wait! Didn´t want to make this political, but hey! it is. Still a great video Mr. Flyer.👍
Hey! I used to work for Symantec as well. Was based in Toronto. Spent a lot of time in Shibuya-ku, Tokyo working at SARC. (Symantec Anti Virus Research Centre) This was in the 90's. Worked in Tech Support, Q/A and as a Localization Engineer. I came aboard just after the Delrina merger.
Cool! I never visited the Toronto site but frequently was at the Cupertino then Mountain View HQ as well as Culver City, Santa Monica, American Fork in Utah and of course the Las Vegas Sales Conferences...so did the US a lot..
Based on your review of the Monimoto’s I ordered one. I’ve been umming and arrring about it for weeks. However ordered one, arrived a day later! Fitted and now a little more peace of mind. Great reviews and channel.
The best theft protection against motorcycle thieves is - in the long term - 10 grams of PETN under the seat, together with remote ignition using a GSM mobile phone. Once the word has got around that many motorcycle thieves have recently come home in two halves, the number of thefts is guaranteed to drop dramatically.
Just descovered your video. Very informative. Lots of info and very straightforward. Thank you. Ive subscribed! Looking forward to seeing your other videos. 👍
its not necessary , just get a fire arms certificate and let everyone for 10 miles around you know you can shoot the balls off a nat at 100 yards .... seems to be working for me i can leave my keys in the ignition and my bike outside for a a month straight :)
@@Edgunsuk if they want it they will get it, end of. No amount of chains, locks, barriers, guns will stop them. For a start they will nick it when your out, grind through, bend doors or whatever they need to. The whole point of these security measures is to make it so hard for them they won't bother. They folded my garage door in half, saw all the security then broke into the house for the keys while my wife was in there, fortunately my German shepherd put stop to that (go Roxy) and tore part the skin off his arm in the process so they nicked whatever else wasn't locked down in the garage, welder, tools and my mountain bike. I have since moved but the same security is fitted, along with some extra special custom made electrical products to give them a "stunning" surprise 😉
@@rich.dodd1 Good dog Roxy ! A lot of people weigh up their security measures against convenience of use, if it takes 20 minutes to get your bike out when you have the keys (and know the correct sequence of removal to prevent sunning surprises) it makes owning a bike less convenient. I live in an area that had a very high bike theft rate a few years ago, probably the highest in the country so we took some pro-active measures to reduce it. We set up a FB group to keep track of victims which grew very rapidly in a matter of weeks. Some members took it on themselves to correlate all bike thefts and attempted thefts in the area with as many details as possible. Other members coordinated patrols to track and trace stolen bikes and return them when possible and other members tracked the thieves and 'confronted' them to let them know their actions were not advisable and also followed them when they went out looking for bikes to steal. We also got together with local councillors who arranged meetings with The Chief of Police and local Police Inspectors and presented them with lots of information that they were not previously aware of, they were surprised and pleased that we were able to do all this and it was a huge benefit in removing a lot of thieves from the streets and cutting bike thefts down to current levels. Obviously this was a group effort but it was successful, by comparison there were 2 or 3 bike thefts every day before we set up the FB group and now there are less than 2 or 3 every month, that is still more than we want but it was a drastic improvement overall.. A lot of the success was down to bikers using better awareness of theft and using effective security measures too, I continually advise people on how to secure their bikes and what types of locks and chains would be suitable for different circumstances whenever I see someone in a car park or leaving their bike in unsuitable locations or anyone that asks for advice online.
love the litelock. What a revelation for travelling. I have a mega link chain and the problem with big links is getting them through the front wheels of a sports bike when the front discs are 320mm. Never get that Oxford chain through. No space. Great vid as always and thanks for brokering discounts, much appreciated. Big thumbs up.
I love your set up, that's what I am trying to do is a good garage for my bike. Fantastic report on the security, love what you do. Brilliant as all ways.
@@TheMissendenFlyer You should definitely check it out. The lock emits noxious gas at high pressure when you cut it that makes you sick and ruins your clothes. Not sure how they are legal but they are. Also the Alton SAF locks resists angle grinders. One tester broke through one but he used 2 angle grinders many blades and 6 batteries.
@@TheMissendenFlyer They are definitely legal. They sell them on Amazon. I like the idea of the light lock but the LPL cut it in 16 seconds. The reason it took so long was that he had to turn it around and make two cuts with his cable cutter.
I’ve always said. You can never fully stop someone steeling your bike. Your right. It’s all about layering. I have a door alarm, camera inside the garage that sends me alarm if anyone enters. I also have a camera out side that pings me if someone stands out side the garage door. I also have 2 garage door defenders on the out side. 2 anchor points with 2 locks on each bike. More if I’m away from home. Disks locks etc. Plus the bike tracker. All this is to delay time so when I get the first alarm that someone’s at my door, there’s enough time for police to arrive before they cut through everything!
Great Video TMF! Love the barrier 👌 I use Pragmasis for chains/locks etc. They do an excellent device called the “Anti Pinch Pin” it’s perfect for the GS as it goes through the hole on in the drive shaft and just uses a padlock on the other end so takes a matter of seconds to unlock your bike, rather than feed chain through a wheel or frame etc 👍
You really need to insulate those garage doors - Silver foil double bubble wrap - Aldi are selling some cheap in their Special Buys on 14th June - Will keep the garage cooler in the summer and warmer in the winter and stops the garage getting damp inside when condensation forms on the inside of the door - Made my garage (Workshop) a lot better in the winter in Scotland. Fix it with spray-on contact adhesive :-)
Cheap tracker to try. Vodafone V multi tracker. Currently on special offer. £2 a month subscription. I use one when I'm out and about or touring. Just secret it somewhere on the bike. Handy if you only need a tracker when not at home. Or hardwire it if you need one permanently on one bike.
My bike is outside and I'm on a very tight budget, so what I do is make it as much of a pain as possible to lock and unlock my bike with multiple locks (disc and chain). At least then it will take a thief a lot longer, making more noise, along with the alarm, I can then go crazy on them with hammers and such 😎
I have Handel bar lock that holds the front break on great to stop some one Wheeling it off but I wouldn’t trust it if somebody really tried to steal it. The best thing are use it for as I travel to the Isle of Wight quite a lot and it is brilliant for holding the brakes on on the ferry I call it my ferry stop.
@@TheMissendenFlyer I just went on to their website, which is very well laid out, & they have a great selection of products. I'm also pretty sure Lamb Chop's garage & H2 are among the promotional pics. What better recommendation than TMF & Lamb Chop could you ever need!?!
LOL. While on a road trip I had to leave my triumph in a fairly sketchy area of Philadelphia. (US) I had no lock at all. I taped a note to it that said, 'UNSAFE DO NOT RIDE Sorry the parts are on backorder." The week I stayed there two other bikes within a block were stolen. Though I wouldn't advocate for it over an actual lock, sometimes something stupid simple works. Good luck with the onions.
Loved the video Andy! The comedy aspect added a lot to it. I personally have my bike outside, covered and chained up. Once I get something more valuable I'll probably add another chain and a tracker. It'll be a pain to undo but rather that than someone stealing it!
I would opt for the Almax series 5 or 6 over the Oxford beast, but the Oxford is a bit cheaper. After losing 1 bike in London in my early days of riding, I wont ever leave the bikes out of sight, and at home it's got the full works... Almax chain Anti pinch pin (goes through axle to mount chain) Alarm disc lock Tracker Cover Locked inside a cabin with no view inside Blocked by a car to access the path to take it out. It's a complete shame this is the way we have to worry about theft of our motorcycles like this in London it also badly affects insurance rates. Thanks for the video.
It's crazy isn't it and makes me think twice about taking a bike into central London....although I understand the figures over the last few months have bee a bit more encouraging.
The best anti-theft device is having a neighbour with a more appealing bike.
That's why I buy all my neighbors better stuff than I have....
John Lightfoot I live on a cancel estate in London that’s terrible for it so it’s locked up in my back garden
Until your neighbours decided to steal your bike instead.
LOL remember parking next to a pair of lovely new Ducati, still used my usual locks and chains. Hopes Ducati would be be there for duration of my parking
Hahahahahaha.. Unless of course.. He IS the bike thief 🤣🤣
It’s a shame we live in a country where serious crime isn’t taken seriously. We should be able to leave our pride and joys without worrying about them disappearing.
I felt more comfortable leaving my bike outside in Vietnam than I do in England.
because serious crime is murdering people you muppet not losing your bike!
Of course murder is more serious. But if you're ok with somebody having their pride and joy nicked then your the Muppet. No proper biker would even come out with such crap.
Try to buy a house with its own garage.... Rocking house shite is easier and cheaper.
@@nickolaswinter2975 Stealing property costs money, money costs time. Time is life. Stealing life isn't cool, even if its only 40-100 hrs from me so i can earn the money back to make good my situation. Fuck thieves.
Another security tip, put your tools away in a locked cabinet or tool box.... having drills, lump hammers, chisels, screwdrivers, pry bars etc all on your peg board ready to help any thief once they are in your garage is just going to make their life so much easier 👍
I'm a blacksmith and I can tell you the harder a steel is the easier it is to cut with a angle grinder. that chain I could cut a link out and bypass the lock in 30 seconds. if you want to mess up a angle grinder attack you need something soft to gum up the blade. Kevlar is very good, they use it in chainsaw safety trousers to foul the blade and it'll do the same on grinder disks
Kevlar super thick able lock then. could be a first
Suggestions? Kevlar wrapped chain?
Kevlar was invented by a woman in 1965, Stephanie Kwolek.
@@missadventuresmotorcycledi2773 never knew that. Cool.
Thanks for the advice. I've heard that with new battery technology (to eliminate 2-stroke engines on chain-saws etc). that new lightweight ultra powerful battery powered cutters are available. A forced entry thief's dream!
I like the 'layered' approach. I keep my three push bikes in a quiet covered area outside the house and I use various chain and cable locks; I've noticed the covers have been moved without my permission on two occasions over the past ten years. The thieves saw the cables and chains and just walked on.
Thieves are wary of cameras and movement sensitive lights and alarms too. They hate hassle; give them hassle!!
One other very simple little security measure i take is to cover my bikes in old sheets / blankets etc so if anyone is passing when the garage door is open they won't see any shiny new metal that might tempt them. They also won't see any of the security measures i have in place protecting the bikes so won't be able to plan ahead for what to deal with.
A case of what the eye doesn't see the heart doesn't yearn for. It also keeps the dust off.
I'm not sure on trackers, its a lot of expense and agg to help when the bike has been stolen. I use chains and ground anchors in the hope that i can stop the bikes being stolen in the first place. I also use a natty device which locks the brake lever closed and prevents the front wheel from moving. Its impossible to try and ride off with it in place like you might with a disc lock and is very quick and easy to use.
Hey, what is the natty device?
Good advice about covering up the bike. But for your brake lever thing, can't they simply snip the brake cable - security device overridden?
@@johnclifton3512 I've not seen a bike that uses cables for brakes. Do you mean the hydraulic line from the master cylinder? That would make quite a mess.
@@TheOriginalCoda But if they're stealing a £20K bike a bit of mess is not going to worry them.
I’ve been working for a security company for 20+ years and I would highly recommend a Smoke cloak or similar linked to your alarm, very good bit of kit when combined with a 240v siren. If they can’t see it they can’t try and cut it in the first place 👍
@@LenAnderson856 no have it where you park your bike eg smoke cloak in the garage
I liked FortNine's comment about lock security when Ryan said that you know your bike lock can survive a 5 minute sustained attack simply by parking your bike outside in the UK for 6 minutes. By the way, bought the Monimoto tracker after your review, what a nice bit of kit!
Yes they're great aren't they - I have 4!
I was laughing for a good minute due to that thumbnail, it's brilliant!!!
Glad you like it - took a bit of effort that one!
When I was in the UK army my buddy used smoke grenades when his Lambretta scooter was locked up in his parents shed in Hull. We got a call when we were in Bosnia that they were activated, When his mom went to get the lawn mower out, and moved his prized scooter. Needless to say the bosses were not happy, as you did a declaration when you leave the ranges and training areas after using pyrotechnics🤓🤓🤓 Beaky was one of those mod guys he’d ride that scooter all the way to Osabruck Germany and back every year, raccoons tail flying in the wind!!!!!!
Great story!
Luckily he didn't install claymore mines
🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
Hull lad, no surprise!
The best security has 4 legs a tail lots of sharp pointy teeth and goes by the name of Rex the GSD.
My big GSD security hound is called Jose. Def the best house security
True
Logan our Airedale reckons GSD are all wusses ;)
Ah, the screaming in the night - that'll be the burglar.
Any dog that will raise the alarum and you won't be visited by scumbags.
Great video and the right balance between your appreciated impartiality and disclosed benefits/links to providers. Nice work and appreciated. Love the human mistakes at the end. Proper bloke!
Despite all your security Andy I think the most significant deterrent you have is the prospect of a lowlife bike thief breaking in and finding you exercising in Lycra.
Fantastic - just got a Litelok Moto for my m/c and a Gold Wearable for my bike, 10% off - thanks TMF!! I didn't even know these products existed before watching your video.
I'm very pleased with mine, hope you will be with yours!
Great video, really useful! I particularly liked the security barrier 😃
Yes great invention eh?
This information couldn’t come at a better time as tomorrow I take possession of my BMW R1200 GS 2015 .... thank you chap
Congratulations!
Brilliant video from a real world user cheers
Thank you....
Excellent advice! Right all fully sorted with the info for my vid now
Glad to help (as usual!!)....
I personally have discovered that an alarmed disc lock works a treat. Louder the better. A thief is going to think twice about shoving a bike in a van when the alarm is blowing their ear drums out.
Not only a great video, very useful information .You have now saved me £10 on my purchase of a Litelok .For years I have been looking for a practical and light lock for touring ,and bang you shown me one .Save taking my heavy old chain .Thanks MSF
Mr T wants his neck chain back Andy!😈🤣
Nice one Andy, security is important this video is probably a big help to lots of people. Loved the bloopers at the end, always good for a giggle 👍🏻🤣
You have some brilliant products there, my secure garage is already like Fort Knox with heavy duty Thatcham Locks to ground anchors, but that Guardsman barrier and LiteLok for my travels very tempting.
Glad to see your both working out, cheers TMF.
I clicked like for the thumb nail before even watching 😂
Glad you liked it!
@@TheMissendenFlyer and turns out, a good vid too! I haven't got a garage unfortunately but both my bikes have good quality covers and 2 locks on and I've never had an issue (touch wood!).
It's not just the thumbnail... the fingernails all over the right hand are luxuriant! I'm guessing TMF is moonlighting as a flamenco player...
Just strip and fray some spare wires you have laying around and strategically place them sticking out of the frame and pour some oil around your parked bike...instant deterrent lol
Good work once again, if storing your bike for months on end take the front wheel out and chain it to the rear wheel or frame that will stop your casual thief/scum bag in his tracks, (you will need a paddock stand) it’s a bit of a ball ache but once you’ve done it a few times it’s not too much bother, I used to be able to remove front and rear slicks and replace with wets in about 10/15 mins when club racing.......and it was usually pissing down with rain to make it more interesting.
Bikes are very often picked up by the handlebars by thieves and rolled on their back wheels.
Disk locks on rear disks (as well as front) are a very good idea. Place the lock so that it’s necessary to unlock it through the wheel between the spokes. Don’t leave it sticking out in the breeze, that’s just an invitation to attack.
Locking the back wheel with a chain and a disk lock is a double deterrent and a double disincentive.
The best affordable locks to use with chains are good quality shutter locks.
Link chains over the seat if you can’t get it through the frame. Never lay chains on the ground.
Put CCTV cameras behind windows pointing at the street, as well as high up out of reach outside. They act as a great deterrent.
Great video TMF, adding the “gaffs” at the end shows that u put a lot of time & effort into what u do,
Well done mate 👍 👍 😃 🏍
Thanks 👍
Oh man. Seems like having a bike in eastern or southern Europe is safer than UK.
Frane Z - You are correct. But in these countries you have have a gun. You have to breathe to steal.
@@Trevor_Austin gun laws are very strict where I live, so that's out. I think that theft market, if we can call like that, is just different. You can leave a new GS out unprotected with most likely no problems, but a new VW Golf might dissapear quickly.
There's a channel that's run by moto tracker ? Can't remember name but they do GPS tracking for stolen vehicles in the UK.
Its like a British version of cops all proper like...
My last bike was stolen by cutting through a d lock, a disc lock and a19mm chain with an angle grinder, lifting the bike out past where it was blocked in by a van and then finding and removing the biketrac tracker. The last layer of the onion is the insurance company which will pay out when all else fails (once I mailed them all the keys to the multiple security devices and the photo of the 19mm chain link cut in half). And Trevor all the personal protection in the world won't help if they do all this while you aren't there. I've chased off thieves by shining a maglite before, it's when I don't get there in time all this is needed.
yep, everything that's not bolted down in this country will get stolen. mostly by eastern europeans and irish gypsies, ironically.
Anything you can use as a deterrent that’s visible before a thief even gets in your garage helps-
CCTV that’s well positioned
Garage alarm
Parking your car up to the garage door when possible
If you have driveway gates lock them
Good security lights
An electric shutter garage door (way harder to bust into)
Also on another point keep your bikes out of view in the daytime as much as possible I wash mine round the back, plenty will scope out properties and see who has what to steal in the day.
Great video nice to see some good bits of kit
cctv is useless. people cover their faces and even if you get a face shot, police will not do anything
Magnetic Vision it’s not perfect but it’s not useless I’ve seen quite a few people prosecuted after they were identified from a cctv image. It’s also good for catching thieves vehicles and registration plates they’re not all clever enough to use fake plates. If you have motion sensing cctv that will alert your phone to thieves it speeds up the time you have to act on it.
Some thoughts when using chains. Don't just put them through the wheel and lay the chain on the floor, thieves will lift the bike with the chain still attached into the back of their van and be gone in a few minutes.
Chains on the floor give perfect leverage for bolt cutters, keep chains off the floor, route them through the frame, then the wheel. If you have a ground fitting in the garage fix it to the wall so the chain is off the floor when fitted to the bike.
Chain bikes to each other through framework not through the wheels on the floor.
Good tips - cheers!
Don't lock only one wheel, it's a lot more difficult to move a bike when both wheels are locked
PeterS, That's great advice, but hard to follow. A lot of bikes just don't have a suitable frame gap for a chain to go through. It's something I wish manufacturers would think about when they design them to start with.
If you use a thinner chain, it's easier to get through the frame, but then it's easier to cut.
I use alarmed disc locks in addition to chains ( or cables when travelling), in the hope that any attempt to attack the chain will set off the alarm before the chain can be cut.
Best antitheft video around thank you. Just bought the Monimoto and Litelock through your links so i can support your channel!
Much appreciated!
It really is a shame that we have to take such measure to keep our possessions safe from a group of people who have absolutely no morals or concern for other people's property.
@Lyrical Gammster foreigners*
Incredibly useful video TMF. These are the kinds of things i enjoy seeing as it gives me plenty of ideas to keep my MT09-SP safe and secure!
Great to hear!
Absolutely brilliant video. I use an oxford monster disc lock when out and about with the gixxes but for travelling on holiday the litelock definitely is of interest to me as having no panniers, a rather small tail bag and a tightly packed back pack space is an issue for me but the litelock would fit on top perfectly. Will be sure to use the link when I grab one soon! 10/10 for information and entertainment sir 😎👍
It is good but I have seen it cut in 16 seconds ,however, that's irrelevant it is still a good lock,angle grinders will always win.
Just bought a Litelock Moto based on your video. The 10% discount still works, so many thanks.
Good stuff!
Excellent vid as always. I find it odd that people will spend the best part of 20k on a bike and then pull a face at spending a little bit more on added security. Once you have it, it will be there for any subsequent bikes, so you only buy once and is often way less that the insurance excess you'll be paying if your bike gets nicked. It should be a right faff to get your bike out and ready for a ride, time is your friend! If it takes you a few minutes to unlock your bike and remove any security, it's going to take that long, or longer for any scumbag to do the same, something they don't like. Even if you have one big lock and chain, adding some extra security in the form of a few cheap disc locks that can now be had for little money will slow them down, or better still have them thinking this is to much like hard work and have them moving on.
100% agreed!
Nice Video - Thank you. What would be nice is a video of methods to applying a chain on your motorcycles in an outdoor space. Not many videos on here describing suitable methods (apart from keeping it off the ground).
My bikes covered in alpha dots that only show up under ultraviolet lights.The dots can be traced back to you if your bike gets stolen.
Problem is, your bike might end-up in, say, Brazil - where nobody will know what an alpha dot is. Smart thieves ship a bike out of area unfortunately - especially nice ones. A great idea but don't rely on it - maybe as one layer to the onion as m'man says.
Great advice and products!
Thank you for watching!
Love the bloopers!!
Glad you like ‘em!
That guardsman stumped me how simple and smart of an idea it is. Could work just as well with cars.
Yes great idea isn’t it....
Great content as usual. Security is important. If they're gonna tek it, mek it as hard n awkward as possible for em so they mek plentya noise. Outtakes alas good for a laugh. Keep em coming Andy.
You even type with an accent
@@ETruesdel say it as it is ol cock. 👍
Andy, great video. Well done. A few years ago I was personally targeted by a pro bike gang. I happened to pull up at home and park near to my house but not outside. My car at the time spent 99% of the time in the garage. And the gang slowly drove past me took at look but didn’t twig that the house I had seen them casing up was actually mine. They looked snide to me. I called it in and shared the intel. At the time just thought they were thieves looking for houses to target. An hour later found out they were a top gang. I then realised that I was frequently washing my bike and drying it outside and would often leave it out to dry. Clearly they’d seen it (or someone else had) passed the info on and before I knew it they were working out how to screw my house.
As you know I’m in the other side of this trade so a number of things happened quickly, including covert stuff. But one thing that was explored at the time was who knew I had it etc. I’d had tyres fitted locally and innocently had given my name and address for the invoice on a super bike. I very quickly learned how to reduce vulnerability around identifying who knows what you have and where you are from. Happy to share some extra bits with you at some point as I ended up working on some of these thieves and really began to understand their tactics. 😮 The layers of security system is DEFINATELY needs to be adhered to by EVERYONE who watches this channel.....
Nice one, good lesson for us all - thanks for stopping by!
That litelock looks really interesting, I may have to pick one up at some point
Search for the lock picking lawyer's video before you buy one.
@@roberthicks686 I highly doubt thieves are going to be picking any locks round here
Thanks Andy. Another great video on a subject close to all of our hearts no doubt. I now live in New Zealand and its a bit safer than Grimsby in the uk where I'm from. However, I too have a Monimoto on the new XSR900 and its fantastic. It actually works exactly as advertised !
I ordered one of your TMF tee shirts a few weeks ago (before lock down) and it actually arrived today. I must say it's good quality and I will be wearing it down the pub at the weekend :)
Careful of all the female attention you'll be getting!
I've watched lots of chain, lock and disclock reviews (yourself, Fortnine, Bennett's & many others) but what I've not yet found is anyone reviewing ground anchors. Idea for a future video ?
yep - as i have to park in my 'front garden' theres nothing to put a 22mm lock through - no ground anchors i've seen are big enough for that mammoth lock
I rely mostly on being out of sight
Mac Morrison almax say there’s only about 4 anchors for that size chain. They recommend a cement in y anchor.
Set an old couple of U locks in a couple of bags of cement. They weigh too much to move.
Just took delivery of the Litelok, only ordered last week so approximately 2/3 working days, so certainly can't argue with that. Looks and feels substantial yet flexible, looking forward to using it for real. Don't often take advice from blogs but trusted you on this one!!
Nice one Alan, I’m very happy with mine...
Don’t ask, but one of the channels TH-cam has recommended to me was The Lockpicking Lawyer. After watching a few of his videos you realise that all locks are pickable. It’s a matter of tools, technique and time. And it’s time that really matters. The more expensive you make it in terms of time, the less likely you are to have your bike stolen. Your bits of security kit will require a considerable amount of time to overcome, unless one is silly with the keys... This was, as usual, an excellent video and very informative. Thank you.
Just out of interest, you did not mention a product/method such as Datatag as another possible layer of defence. Is this because you have to stop somewhere or such schemes are not value for money or that they are easily overcome?
I didn't mention all the security measures I personally use for obvious reasons! I do use Datatag too as it happens, amongst other measures....and agree, as I said at the start, nothing is completely secure, it's all about making things as difficult/awkward as possible for the bad guys...
Lockpicking is the least likely method that a thief will use to nick a bike, it's one thing to sit at home with the right tools and a bit of knowledge and pick locks successfully but it's an entirely different matter to do it at night, on you knees and under stress, in the street or even in a garage.
TheMissendenFlyer - Thanks again for your response.
Ian Clarke - I totally agree with you.
Love that guardsman living in wales still!!! Underlock down I've had plenty of time on my hands so I built myself a bike man cave for my three bikes I've got trackers on all of them, alfa dot , etc I've alarmed the man cave but that gaurdsman Is very appealing so I just googled them jesus there not cheap but cheaper than replacing your pride and joy I will be getting one of them in the near future just got convince the wife which wont be easy after she sees the bill for my lovely new bike shed 😁
Love the videos keep them coming
Yes I think they’re a great invention Allen, if you do get one don’t forget the discount code to save yourself a bit....
Wire 70,000 volts through anything metal
Just remember to unhook it otherwise youll zap your balls
Great vid Andy, makes me think I should be doing a bit more with my security. Good to see you’ve lined up some discounts too. Hope you’re going to put more of your humour into future vids, we know you’re a funny guy.
I shove a 10 quid long shackle padlock through the holes on the garage runner assembly (1:57 on your vid). Can’t open it then.
I've seen them bend the garage door double or rip it out. It's another layer to the onion for sure but the door itself is too flimsy to defeat a determined attack.
@@misterthegeoff9767 yeah, you can fold them without resorting to hooking a van to it.
It’s called ‘peel & steal’. Locksmith told me locks are for honest thieves that’s why they tend to bust through the roof then decide from there!
Guardsman looks like a great piece of equipment. Really like the look of the litelock, handy for a summer tour if we ever get out of lock down.
Indeed I've been impressed with both....I think that Guardsman in particular is a brilliant idea, one of those "why didn't I think of that" type deals....
Getting a lady to do press-ups for you, mr smartypants.
....perhaps I could have got more creative with the thumbnail!
That’ll earn you another slap on the side of the head!!
@@larbertman36 hahahahaha The famous slap !!!
Like you say layered security is the way forward. The first one is to do the same as you do and keep your bike(s) away from prying eyes in a garage or shed, don't leave them in full view of passers by. What thieves don't want to do is spend time on site as that increases the risk of being caught, making your bike less attractive to them than somebody else's is the key as they'll nick theirs instead. Like you said outside use a cover as they don't like them either, use at least 1 disc lock ( if you only have 1 put it through the rear wheel) and if possible chain your bike to something. I have a xenon alarmed one for the front and a large oxford one for the rear. Some manufacturers such sa BMW are now fitting trackers as standard at the factory which again is another layer to encourage thieves to target someone else's bike. Another option, especially if you commute to somewhere that has a bike theft problem is to buy an older bike that's not popular with thieves to commute on rather that the latest 15k plus sparkly adventure bike that'll be in a container and on a ship quicker than the time it's taken me to type this 1 fingered on my phone. It's a sad state of affairs we have to go to these lengths to protect our possessions.
Unusually .. this is perfect timing .. I've been considering the Litelok for a while now, I shall take advantage of your generous Discount :).. Personally when I'm touring and staying in a Hotel, I use 2x oxford disc locks and a cheap alarmed one... One on each disc with the alarmed on the nearside front disc with the bike on the side stand, it goes off if it feels any shocks .. Would probably only take a couple of mins to get them off but I'd hear the alarm go off .. and hopefully they will move on to an easier target .. I have a chain but it's a bit heavy to lug around so the Litelok definitely got my attention ..
Yes for touring that Litelock is a winner - as you say, it all helps build deterrent.....
The alarm on disc locks is easy to overcome as I found out. Just spray them with filler foam, completely muffles the sound. Luckily my pragmasis ground anchor, pin and chain defeated their grinder!
I'm referring to when the bike is parked outside a Hotel or in the Hotel car park when I'm Touring .. I'd need a trailer To carry that lock and chain .. not to mention the tools and concrete mix required to install the ground anchor at my overnight stops .. lol
Life would be a lot easier and cheaper if people keep their hands off stuff that doesn´t belong to them would it? If there only was something like law enfo..... oh wait!
Didn´t want to make this political, but hey! it is.
Still a great video Mr. Flyer.👍
Too right.
Hey! I used to work for Symantec as well. Was based in Toronto. Spent a lot of time in Shibuya-ku, Tokyo working at SARC. (Symantec Anti Virus Research Centre) This was in the 90's. Worked in Tech Support, Q/A and as a Localization Engineer. I came aboard just after the Delrina merger.
Cool! I never visited the Toronto site but frequently was at the Cupertino then Mountain View HQ as well as Culver City, Santa Monica, American Fork in Utah and of course the Las Vegas Sales Conferences...so did the US a lot..
Surprised you didn't cover disc-locks seeing as they're useful for security when out and about and at home. Xena do some good ones
Love the little caption at the end
Mr TMF, whats happened to your cleaning OCD? That garage door is a disgrace, and IMO needs a good clean ☺Cheers, Gordon
Based on your review of the Monimoto’s I ordered one. I’ve been umming and arrring about it for weeks. However ordered one, arrived a day later! Fitted and now a little more peace of mind. Great reviews and channel.
Thank you Julian - told you they were good!
The best theft protection against motorcycle thieves is - in the long term - 10 grams of PETN under the seat, together with remote ignition using a GSM mobile phone. Once the word has got around that many motorcycle thieves have recently come home in two halves, the number of thefts is guaranteed to drop dramatically.
Just descovered your video. Very informative. Lots of info and very straightforward. Thank you. Ive subscribed! Looking forward to seeing your other videos. 👍
Welcome aboard - what kept you! 🤓
pretty sad that this amount of security is necessary lol
Indeed....
its not necessary , just get a fire arms certificate and let everyone for 10 miles around you know you can shoot the balls off a nat at 100 yards .... seems to be working for me i can leave my keys in the ignition and my bike outside for a a month straight :)
Edgunsuk ‘just get a firearms certificate’ 😂
@@Edgunsuk if they want it they will get it, end of. No amount of chains, locks, barriers, guns will stop them. For a start they will nick it when your out, grind through, bend doors or whatever they need to.
The whole point of these security measures is to make it so hard for them they won't bother. They folded my garage door in half, saw all the security then broke into the house for the keys while my wife was in there, fortunately my German shepherd put stop to that (go Roxy) and tore part the skin off his arm in the process so they nicked whatever else wasn't locked down in the garage, welder, tools and my mountain bike. I have since moved but the same security is fitted, along with some extra special custom made electrical products to give them a "stunning" surprise 😉
@@rich.dodd1 Good dog Roxy !
A lot of people weigh up their security measures against convenience of use, if it takes 20 minutes to get your bike out when you have the keys (and know the correct sequence of removal to prevent sunning surprises) it makes owning a bike less convenient.
I live in an area that had a very high bike theft rate a few years ago, probably the highest in the country so we took some pro-active measures to reduce it. We set up a FB group to keep track of victims which grew very rapidly in a matter of weeks. Some members took it on themselves to correlate all bike thefts and attempted thefts in the area with as many details as possible. Other members coordinated patrols to track and trace stolen bikes and return them when possible and other members tracked the thieves and 'confronted' them to let them know their actions were not advisable and also followed them when they went out looking for bikes to steal.
We also got together with local councillors who arranged meetings with The Chief of Police and local Police Inspectors and presented them with lots of information that they were not previously aware of, they were surprised and pleased that we were able to do all this and it was a huge benefit in removing a lot of thieves from the streets and cutting bike thefts down to current levels.
Obviously this was a group effort but it was successful, by comparison there were 2 or 3 bike thefts every day before we set up the FB group and now there are less than 2 or 3 every month, that is still more than we want but it was a drastic improvement overall.. A lot of the success was down to bikers using better awareness of theft and using effective security measures too, I continually advise people on how to secure their bikes and what types of locks and chains would be suitable for different circumstances whenever I see someone in a car park or leaving their bike in unsuitable locations or anyone that asks for advice online.
Will definitely be putting a few of these on the shopping list and discounts to boot !,thanks Tmf 👍
No problem 👍
Saw the litelock and grabbed one. New shed so new security :).
Love the outtakes 👍🏻 top vid, top bloke 😂
Thank you James!
love the litelock. What a revelation for travelling. I have a mega link chain and the problem with big links is getting them through the front wheels of a sports bike when the front discs are 320mm. Never get that Oxford chain through. No space. Great vid as always and thanks for brokering discounts, much appreciated. Big thumbs up.
Thanks for watching Bob....
I love your set up, that's what I am trying to do is a good garage for my bike. Fantastic report on the security, love what you do. Brilliant as all ways.
Thank you Keith, appreciated!
I like the look of the light lock, not seen that before. Nice thumbnail.
Yes I’m very happy with mine, so much better than dragging a heavy chain around with you..
I like the idea of the Skunk Lock. This one seems to be the only one that addresses the Angle grinder attack.
I've not seen that....
@@TheMissendenFlyer You should definitely check it out. The lock emits noxious gas at high pressure when you cut it that makes you sick and ruins your clothes. Not sure how they are legal but they are. Also the Alton SAF locks resists angle grinders. One tester broke through one but he used 2 angle grinders many blades and 6 batteries.
@@booshallmighty ...sounds likely illegal to me!
@@TheMissendenFlyer They are definitely legal. They sell them on Amazon. I like the idea of the light lock but the LPL cut it in 16 seconds. The reason it took so long was that he had to turn it around and make two cuts with his cable cutter.
TheMissen.....Remove the Red Handle from your garage door. They can get in with a coat hanger in 20 seconds or so! Great video on securing the bike!
Great if they want to get in without damaging the door....they still have to lift the bikes out though!!
TheMissendenFlyer sure. Your bar is very nice. Anything that slows them down.
Thank you for these suggestions 🙂
No problem 😊
I’ve always said. You can never fully stop someone steeling your bike. Your right. It’s all about layering. I have a door alarm, camera inside the garage that sends me alarm if anyone enters. I also have a camera out side that pings me if someone stands out side the garage door. I also have 2 garage door defenders on the out side. 2 anchor points with 2 locks on each bike. More if I’m away from home. Disks locks etc. Plus the bike tracker. All this is to delay time so when I get the first alarm that someone’s at my door, there’s enough time for police to arrive before they cut through everything!
That's the spirit!
Just used the discount on the litelok moto. Thanks for that. Came out to £108 with discount.
Nice one!
I'm from NZ ,I never owned a lock until I came to the UK...Mind you my bikes were pretty ropey
Thanks for discount code just ordered my lite lock 🔐👍
No problem 👍
Great vid. Here is the US I'd never seen the Guardsman garage barrier. Excellent idea! Thanks for all your vids! - Ray, from SW Colorado.
Thanks for the discount on the Litelok, looks really useful when out and about added to by Oxford disk lock. Love the channel.
Now that is a beast of a chain! Most amusing too 👍🏻
Glad you think so! ...I aim to please!
Great video as usual, 3 times in the past year I've had 2 bikes attempted to be stolen, so yes bike security is an absolute must
Great Video TMF! Love the barrier 👌 I use Pragmasis for chains/locks etc. They do an excellent device called the “Anti Pinch Pin” it’s perfect for the GS as it goes through the hole on in the drive shaft and just uses a padlock on the other end so takes a matter of seconds to unlock your bike, rather than feed chain through a wheel or frame etc 👍
You really need to insulate those garage doors - Silver foil double bubble wrap - Aldi are selling some cheap in their Special Buys on 14th June - Will keep the garage cooler in the summer and warmer in the winter and stops the garage getting damp inside when condensation forms on the inside of the door - Made my garage (Workshop) a lot better in the winter in Scotland. Fix it with spray-on contact adhesive :-)
Good tip - thanks!
Cheap tracker to try. Vodafone V multi tracker. Currently on special offer. £2 a month subscription. I use one when I'm out and about or touring. Just secret it somewhere on the bike. Handy if you only need a tracker when not at home. Or hardwire it if you need one permanently on one bike.
I'm very happy with the Monimoto - cheaper too!
My bike is outside and I'm on a very tight budget, so what I do is make it as much of a pain as possible to lock and unlock my bike with multiple locks (disc and chain). At least then it will take a thief a lot longer, making more noise, along with the alarm, I can then go crazy on them with hammers and such 😎
I have Handel bar lock that holds the front break on great to stop some one Wheeling it off but I wouldn’t trust it if somebody really tried to steal it. The best thing are use it for as I travel to the Isle of Wight quite a lot and it is brilliant for holding the brakes on on the ferry I call it my ferry stop.
Good tip!
what a great channel. love the content, format and editing. so easy to watch. been a fan for ages. cheers mate.
Glad you enjoy it - thanks for the kind comments!
Thanks TMF have ordered two Litelocks for my pride and joys👍
Great vid & probably one of the best you'll do! Very much appreciated. I really like the idea of the Guardsman too.
Yes it’s a great idea I reckon - highly recommended!
@@TheMissendenFlyer I just went on to their website, which is very well laid out, & they have a great selection of products. I'm also pretty sure Lamb Chop's garage & H2 are among the promotional pics. What better recommendation than TMF & Lamb Chop could you ever need!?!
who else was watching his videos before the notification arrived ?
Loving your keenness!
@@TheMissendenFlyer i love your content mate......it is such an awesome experience watching your videos..keep doing the same...love from india
Thank you - will do!
I have ordered half a ton of onions, they will never guess my bike is under it all
LOL. While on a road trip I had to leave my triumph in a fairly sketchy area of Philadelphia. (US) I had no lock at all. I taped a note to it that said, 'UNSAFE DO NOT RIDE Sorry the parts are on backorder." The week I stayed there two other bikes within a block were stolen. Though I wouldn't advocate for it over an actual lock, sometimes something stupid simple works. Good luck with the onions.
_I see someone else has been wearing his shades during the recent good weather_ ☀️😎
*Very helpful vid* 👌
Its a thing I never do but really should and thats engaging the steering lock on my bike.
Every little helps!
You may find your insurance won't pay out if your bike is stolen and they find out the steering lock wasn't engaged.
Well done! :) I was looking forward for a video like this, bet it will be a success :D
I like the Monimoto tracker! Thanks for sharing this information and that chain was over the top!
Around the rugged rock the ragged rascal ran ! I'm sure we couldn't do better infront of camera ! Very useful review - keep them coming,,
Loved the video Andy! The comedy aspect added a lot to it. I personally have my bike outside, covered and chained up. Once I get something more valuable I'll probably add another chain and a tracker. It'll be a pain to undo but rather that than someone stealing it!
I would opt for the Almax series 5 or 6 over the Oxford beast, but the Oxford is a bit cheaper.
After losing 1 bike in London in my early days of riding, I wont ever leave the bikes out of sight, and at home it's got the full works...
Almax chain
Anti pinch pin (goes through axle to mount chain)
Alarm disc lock
Tracker
Cover
Locked inside a cabin with no view inside
Blocked by a car to access the path to take it out.
It's a complete shame this is the way we have to worry about theft of our motorcycles like this in London it also badly affects insurance rates.
Thanks for the video.
It's crazy isn't it and makes me think twice about taking a bike into central London....although I understand the figures over the last few months have bee a bit more encouraging.