I think this is a hidden "look at the trees" argument. What do beavers do? Build dams. What do they use to build them? Sticks, mud, TREES. Look at the beavers long enough, and you'll see the trees. Look at the trees, therefore God. Fundamentally it's an argument as old as time. I gotta admit, though, this argument does meander a bit, much like the stream before the beaver dams it.
Then where is the free will they love to talk about so much? Indoctrination doesn’t sound like the kids get the free will to choose, instead they are forced to believe. Hypocrisy much they
I have met people who have claimed to have had dreams that agree with their particular beliefs. Firstly, it's awfully convenient to have had dreams that agree with beliefs. Secondly, there is no proof that those dreams were real. Dream claims are the weakest possible form of evidence.
I would think if it's some prophecy transmitted by God waves to a person's brain that the resolution and audio quality would be so superior that it would be perfectly obvious that it was a prophecy and not some randomness from their subconscious.
We all believe in something my Guy, what is it that you believe in? Please don't tell my you believe in "science" or the "big bang" as if those aren't any more outlandish claims then the thousands of years of people having "silly" dreams that have shaped 99% of societies in the world...
I dream all kinds of weird stuff - like I can't even describe it with actual words, that's how weird they can be - I don't go around telling people my dreams are proof of anything, except that my brain is a really strange place to be, sometimes. Makes sleeping pretty entertaining, though, so that's a plus.
"If God exist, I want him to tell me himself. I don't want to hear it from anybody else - and in case you're wondering, that includes you," - Pat Condell -
Truthfully, I'd remain skeptical even if some eldritch entity did walk up to me and go "I'm God, worship me!" - scared stupid, absolutely, but skeptical all the same.
@@LadyDoomsinger Star Trek: The Next Generation, episode titled _The Devil's Due._ Literally this, although with the devil instead of God. Or _The Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy,_ when the Vogons show up and manage to communicate to everyone on Earth, in their own language, from every piece of electronics and even any random piece of _tin._ Any being that showed up and called itself a god should sooner raise the question "What trickery is this" than "Where do you want your sacrificial treasure pile O worshipful master?" Anyone who reacts with anything other than suspicion should be jailed from criminal _credulity._
@@LadyDoomsinger That's true. Even if eldritch abominations with unfathomable power existed, that doesn't mean we should take their word for granted. I'd like to point to christians that no human has ever seen Yahweh creating anything. All creation was conveniently made before man, who was created last. Even Eve was created when Adam was sleeping. So, when Yahweh said he created everything, it could be lying its ass off, just taking credit for things that already existed.
@@juanausensi499 Or my personal favorite theory: While Yahweh was going around "speaking" things into existence, some trickster god was walking right behind him, magically creating everything and letting Yahweh believe it was all his own work, just for the laughs.
What's stupid is him trying to say the pay gap is real... Implying it's related to bigotry and unfairness... Rather than related to choices of profession and market value... Men do 99% the dangerous well paying labor jobs.. women don't. There's more biology going on than misogyny.. sad to hear him falling so far off the wagon of rational thought.
The reason the cultists get angry is because they're so insulated from reality in their comfortable little cult bubbles that they even believe the lies they're told about how non-cultists have just never even heard of the tiny, oppressed True(rm) Religion(tm) of Christianity(tm). Like, when the Jehovah's Witlesses knock on your door, they're actually convinced you've never even _heard_ the name Jesus before. They're trained wrong on purpose, with the idea that merely telling people the "good news" will make the satanic scales fall from their eyes and immediately devote themselves to God(tm) for all eternity. They're trained wrong, because _when_ that fails, they run back to their cult bubble and cry to Mommy Pastor about it, and Mommy Pastor gets to go "You see? The _World_ [disgusted spitting and retching noises] truly IS Fallen(tm) and Corrupt(tm)! You better not ever try to leave us or else you'll be tortured forever just like them!" With the Jehovahs, they're trained to run away. All the other cults, though? The well-meaning dunces just think you're slapping their generosity away, when in reality we just don't want their shit on us. Of course they'd get angry. From their perspective, we're being _rude._ While they call us evil and deserving of suffering. Everything cultists do is backwards by design.
They are in for a shock to the system when they try those terrible apologetics on atheists and people of other religions. Which is a good thing because many of them will learn they were lied to. They will learn what they were told atheists believe is a theist strawman.
Yep. Some African pastors have got their followers to eat grass, drink petrol and similar silly to dangerous shenanigans. Then there's the ones who con parents into letting them "exorcise", ie, abuse, their children, and to pay for the pastor for "service".
They’re quite happy to ascribe winning a football match or a country music award to their god but you can’t take the opposite view when something negative occurs?
Kent Hovind - alleged former school science teacher, names only half the known states of matter. At least he found a minion (Matt Powell) of equal-or-greater stupidity.
Dude, what are you saying? Beavers are amazing! So cute and furry. Ok, some of them might smell a little bit fishy, especially when they're wet, but I don't mind. I love beavers.
What's great is that any two people who use any of these arguments can meet each other, hear each other's particular denominational beliefs, and then denounce each other as heretics. It's easy to claim you speak the truth, until you're put in a room with other people who say the same thing.
I think it is one of the best proofs there is no god - you're telling me, with a straight face, that making himself identical to the imaginary and all the false gods via faith was a problem your all knowing god did not forsee?
@@TheHimmusfundamentally u could say water is wet, the molecules making up the water give off the emergent properties of “wetness.” therefor, every water molecule touching each other is technically “wet”
I had a difficult time understanding the African preacher's accent. I had to replay it and listen carefully. He did repeatedly say that God will preserve you alive. I do not know of anyone who Godfrey has kept alive. He also quotes Jeremiah 49:11. He forgot Jeremiah 20:7 "Oh, God, Thou hast deceived me, and I was deceived....." Dad used to say of the Arabs "Don't tell the people the truth. Tell them what they want to hear." I used to debate with a Mormon fellow. No matter what logical arguments I offered, he always had a rebuttal -inevitably religious. I finally realized "Never argue with a fool, lest you discover the fool is doing the same."
@@condorboss3339I am firmly in the "2 is prime" camp. My argument is a classic "look at the trees", maybe a little "the fool says in his heart that there is no prime #2." Look at the trees and masting behavior, putting out oodles of seeds one year, then minimal for a few years, before returning to oodles and starting the cycle again. This always happens in prime numbered years, 3, 5, 7, 11, etc. But it also happens in some species every 2 years. Nature proves 2 is prime! Say amen!
What annoys me the most is the assumption that the natural state of reality is that everything stands still and nothing happens. Why not the other way around? What if the universe just naturally moved by it's very nature, and it would take an act of God to make it stand still?
"Today we will be defeating atheists... Let's start with definition. Yeah, sure - go and define things so they perfectly line up with the premise inside your head. Then you'll be able to win any argument - as long as your opponent is inside your head too.
I just assumed they would have evidence to prove God or they wouldn't have said so. I already abandoned atheism at the beginning of the video and am in search of a god. I think I'm going with Lisa the rainbow giraffe.
For anyone saying "order doesn't come from chaos," here's an easy experiment you can do at home to demonstrate: Get you a carton of bb's, or gumballs, etc. (as long as they are roughly similar in size), and a clear container, like a glass jar. Pour them into the jar, and see how they settle after a few "layers" build up. Try adding bb's in handfuls, too, just to change it up. With enough bb's in the jar, you will see a hexagonal pattern arising as they settle into place. None of them were placed (in this case) with any design; they were poured/dropped in randomly (chaos) and naturally, based on their shape, have arranged themselves into a pattern (order). If this simple experiment can show order arising from chaos, then why should similar principles not also extend to the broader universe at large? Diamonds form naturally, and are lattices of carbon atoms. The metal spoon in your kitchen is a crystalline lattice which formed by simply melting the metal and letting it cool. Order without specific design occurs all the time, all around us.
Creatards will just respond you proved their point because bb's are designed. There's no way to explain a point to someone who's identity depends on not learning.
That's where your common or garden variety apologist chimes in with "therefore God!". It has always, even when I was a lukewarm believer, struck me as an awful big stretch.
Also whatever is at the core of black holes, whatever dark matter turns out to be, and several others we can't yet conceive [edit] also, Kent is a dumbass and always has been.
I remember Bose-Einstein Condensate being used in a bad movie where a bunch of ghosts were created using that and they'd freeze people on contact even if they were inside a tank. The only way to stop them was to use iron fillings or energy weapons. Which apparently are very easy to make using your spare electronics.
Besides the fact that there are fewer nuns all the time, fewer of the nuns that are left wear habits. That unfortunate woman is an endangered species -- definitely proof against intelligent design.
@@LlortnerofIt's cult propaganda. Of _course_ it's staged. That's what church _is._ A stage performance. Except the audience (and sometimes the actors) are too dumb to realize it's all just silly nonsense theatrics.
That last woman was so vague with her vision that she could've talked about me and I'm not even Christian. But this is how it works. Making big statements that fit like everyone...
A few weeks ago, I had a really messed up dream that I was tied to a chair in the basement of a Russian prison. Vladimir Putin was throwing empty vodka bottles at me. When I told Putin that I had already told the KGB, everything I knew, he said I don't do this to make you talk. I do it for fun. It turns out that the dream did have a meaning. I had rolled over, and my arm was pinned behind my back in a very uncomfortable way. These are the only dreams that have meanings.
Man you're lucky. My dreams are things like being late for work or going on a holiday. Then it skips a few hours and I end up going home and lying in bed... then I wake up and it's like "Oh I gotta go to work actually"
I am 61 years old and I hold down a very well-paid job. But it was nothing to do with a god, and everything to do was studying hard at school and gaining a B Eng in Electronic Engineering and a BA in Applied Maths at university.
The first clip alone got me "If you watch a Beaver long enough you'll see proof of god." Like WHAT?!? If you watch an animal with instincts to artificially stop the flow of water and make their own still lakes because they can not safely survive on the ground or in quick moving water... that somehow proves there is an intelligent creator out there... If anything doesn't the behaviour or a beaver illustrate how the beaver is their own creator and master of its universe rather than a higher power or god? Also just a shot in the dark with the lady trying to tell the world her vision... she just got dumped and needed to hype herself up. It all seemed to be about personal growth until she got to the part about personal doubts and used examples like "is that person thinking about me," "should I text them now," and "should I make the first move" sounds less like growth for an individual and more like dating/relationship advice. I also love how she's suggesting religious people should ghost the non religious people... but totally forgot the religion she claims to follow would also consider her "vision" a message from the devil not God since soothsayers, mages, and other mystic/faith workers outside of God and his Church are false and the worker of pretenders that must be ignored by the faithful.
1) Humans build buildings for human purposes, therefore a god who resembles people built the universe. 2) Beavers build lodges for beaver purposes, therefore the Great Beaver built the beaver dam that encompasses the universe.
If you are fasting, you will get delirious and your mind will play tricks. That is why religious people do it. They think it brings them closer to God. It is not a good practice to deprive your body of the proteins it needs. 😂
Yes, your brain needs sugar, water and oxygen to survive or function properly. Disrupt that just a little and things go horribly wrong. When it happens to a diabetic it's a medical emergency, when these people do it to themselves it inspired by sky daddy.
One would think the almighty creator of the universe could show himself to everyone, but strangely enough he let this low hanging fruit to be his spokespersons...
"Sportsballers have frequently used their victories to say God is on their side, but this one said otherwise, & I'm very mad about it. I'm also going to show a bunch of clips of her doing completely normal things that totally makes me look like a massive misogynist." Followed by "I'm not saying I have dreams from God & that makes me better...but I am definitely saying that."
He does know than in most cases the men's league subsidizes the women's and they wouldn't have a league at all if the men didn't give them millions of dollars a year..... Doesn't he? Guess not.
"I won't be going to the white house" from a literal pink haired feminist is the one that got me. Like, how shocked can you reasonably be? The guy in the white house literally lost a civil rape trial. Feminists aren't big fans of rapists, among all the other issues. It shows how obnoxiously engrained Christianity is into our culture. If someone isn't Christian, doesn't toe the party line, we are *shocked* by the blasphemy. If someone asks for equal pay or better when they are performing better, they are a heretic, etc.
@@Llortnerof not gonna disagree on that one, just pointing out how you shouldn't be shocked when an atheist doesn't go to church. Like, that's kinda their thing!
I can almost guarantee the venom the football fan man has toward Megan Rapinoe in particular is that she's an out and proud queer person. Those clips definitely weren't all religion related. He's just hateful. To paraphrase an EXCELLENT film, "Oh my God, like, why are you so obsessed with her???"
@lout160 I feel for you. I dated a girl raised in a fundamental family a couple of years ago. She grew up in a private fundamental school. When she tried to stay college to be a very she couldn't handle it. She stayed a recluse until her dad left the family. Her first job ever was at the age of 27 at an amazon FC. That's where we met. It took me a while to figure all this out because she couldn't straight out say all this. I don't think she'll ever have a relationship. It's saddening to me.
@@theantitheist1 I appreciate that. I essentially derailed my life under the influence of christian mythology. But I also don't think I would have developed as deep of an understanding of myself and those around me had I not gone through it. Regardless, support from people like you feels so much more meaningful where it's not contingent upon some dogmatic pretext or forced through some "servant of god" facade. Thanks for the sentiment and for being real.
@@theantitheist1 Absolutely. I don't consider that "servant of god" mode to be part of the person. I'm very close with many religious people. It's just really frustrating having that disconnect between us and seeing the damage it does to them. It makes me feel like an outcast more often than not, so sympathy or empathy is a huge deal to me as I almost never receive it outside of a religious context.
You can’t objectively measure who wins a debate lol And any audience polls is going to be insanely biased on if majority watching is atheist or religious
If people can cite a positive personal experience as proof of god, why can’t someone cite a negative experience as proof no god intervened to protect them?
The Megan Rapino thing is really funny. Because when she got injured in her last game that was the first time in decades I thought there might actually be a God!!! 😂
Kent thinks a descriptive phrase ("in the beginning") is an action. Not good on how literature works. Would feel sorry if he wasn't such a terrible person
Kent is stuck in 8th grade science as it was taught in 1960. It explains both his bad and outdated arguments, as well as his unyielding reverence for middle school science textbooks as a source of infinite truth about the state of modern science.
I said the same thing. Also, when he said that time, space, and matter can't exist without the other, he madesome assumptionsthat arent supd snd ignored a condition. He said, " if you have matter and no space where would you put it. If you had matter and space but no time when would you put it ." Even if we assume that matter needs a space to exist, we don't know that space and matter need time to exist. But even saying that it does, he never addresses the fact of if you can have space and time without matter.
To be fair, most people are taught the three basic states of matter. Plasma and Condensate are a bit more advanced concepts. Like the five senses. We got a lot more than five but you only really teach the five basic ones and maybe add balance as a 6th while everything else is for the nerds :D So 3 states and 5 senses is enough for say a primary school science teacher. But I guess Kent thinks himself as a high school one so yeah he'd need to provide the others.
I love that Rapinoe said that. After hearing SO MANY (mostly male) athletes boast that GOD made them win some sporting event...as if god would have nothing better to do with his time that randomly favor one team over another in a SPORTING event. "I am GOD'S chosen!" Talk about ego.
18:26 I just had a dream that my family went on a vacation to somewhere in southeast Asia and I discovered a humanoid scorpion so I climbed a tree and took pictures of it while it was just walking around. I think my dream beats hers.
God said that we should multiply. Then God kills all except eight. Then God sends plauges and illness killing many. Then God divides us, by language and ideologies. This seems to be contrary in nature. One possible hypothesis to explain this, is that God just wants to watch us multply... that He likes to watch.
Man, the dude with the footballer; Pratchett’s Small Gods would blow his mind. The philosophers who question the existance of the Gods need to wear well-insulated shoes in that book 😂
Order and regularity prove design? My … um … well … bowels move every morning in an orderly fashion at the same time every day like clockwork. So my poops prove design? Who knew?!
I wonder why that last woman mentioned fasting as a means to come into an 'intimate' relationship. It sounds as if she is a. trying to justify her anorexia, or b. a fictophile (aka no one within her family is worth her love, either because she is narcisstic, or because she had a childhood full of neglects)
"I'm gonna talk some bollocks, shouty man!" "My words sound pretty, shouty man!" "but in reality are vacuous, shouty man!" "Increased volume equals me being right, shouty man!" but in reality i'm just a shouty man!"
It’s actually absurd how Christians use free will as an example of god, somehow? When in reality, the concept and implications of free will directly contradict their god. The Christian god is omniscient (among other things), so he knows everything that has happened, and more importantly, everything that will happen. This directly implies a predetermined future, which contradicts free will, since everything you do is simply an advancement towards that determined future. So a world with a Christian god can’t have free will, simply the illusion of it. And that’s only one of the many contradictions faced by the existence of the Abrahamic Christian god as described in the Bible. Anyway, this entertained me during my midnight snack, so I thought I’d repay. You just earned another sub and enough for a snack of your own 😁
Also, although completely spontaneous events such as particle decay are possible, most phenomena are a consequence of INTERACTIONS. Therefore it's more correct to say that most events have multiple "causes." On this basis, it would be nonsensical to infer that going back in time we would ever arrive at a First Cause.
10:57 this guy s combination of weirdass sayings with the musical cadence of his speech and accent are entertaining af to listen to ,Id listen to it while eating breakfast or on my tractor mowing lawns.
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'look at the beaver. Therefore God.'
Ok, I admit. That's a new one.
I think this is a hidden "look at the trees" argument.
What do beavers do? Build dams. What do they use to build them? Sticks, mud, TREES.
Look at the beavers long enough, and you'll see the trees. Look at the trees, therefore God. Fundamentally it's an argument as old as time.
I gotta admit, though, this argument does meander a bit, much like the stream before the beaver dams it.
I'm waiting for them to say 'Look at the tapeworms, therefore God'
I do think we could all benefit from spending more time studying beavers. I may or may not be speaking euphemistically.
Beaver...or did he mean..."beaver" 🤔🫣
Beavers, Asses and Hooters …..
Those children being indoctrinated to believe that their teacher's worldview is universally shared and absolutely correct is appalling.
It is appalling when teachers indoctrinated the belief in dinosaurs, with less evidence then that for God?
Then where is the free will they love to talk about so much?
Indoctrination doesn’t sound like the kids get the free will to choose, instead they are forced to believe. Hypocrisy much they
I have met people who have claimed to have had dreams that agree with their particular beliefs. Firstly, it's awfully convenient to have had dreams that agree with beliefs. Secondly, there is no proof that those dreams were real. Dream claims are the weakest possible form of evidence.
Annnd there's no proof that the dream you had (if you had one) happened the way you said it did.
I would think if it's some prophecy transmitted by God waves to a person's brain that the resolution and audio quality would be so superior that it would be perfectly obvious that it was a prophecy and not some randomness from their subconscious.
We all believe in something my Guy, what is it that you believe in? Please don't tell my you believe in "science" or the "big bang" as if those aren't any more outlandish claims then the thousands of years of people having "silly" dreams that have shaped 99% of societies in the world...
I dream all kinds of weird stuff - like I can't even describe it with actual words, that's how weird they can be - I don't go around telling people my dreams are proof of anything, except that my brain is a really strange place to be, sometimes. Makes sleeping pretty entertaining, though, so that's a plus.
Ofcause theres prof.
U said its dreams so its NOT real.
"If God exist, I want him to tell me himself. I don't want to hear it from anybody else - and in case you're wondering, that includes you,"
- Pat Condell -
Truthfully, I'd remain skeptical even if some eldritch entity did walk up to me and go "I'm God, worship me!" - scared stupid, absolutely, but skeptical all the same.
@@LadyDoomsinger Star Trek: The Next Generation, episode titled _The Devil's Due._ Literally this, although with the devil instead of God. Or _The Hitch-Hiker's Guide to the Galaxy,_ when the Vogons show up and manage to communicate to everyone on Earth, in their own language, from every piece of electronics and even any random piece of _tin._
Any being that showed up and called itself a god should sooner raise the question "What trickery is this" than "Where do you want your sacrificial treasure pile O worshipful master?" Anyone who reacts with anything other than suspicion should be jailed from criminal _credulity._
@@LadyDoomsinger That's true. Even if eldritch abominations with unfathomable power existed, that doesn't mean we should take their word for granted.
I'd like to point to christians that no human has ever seen Yahweh creating anything. All creation was conveniently made before man, who was created last. Even Eve was created when Adam was sleeping. So, when Yahweh said he created everything, it could be lying its ass off, just taking credit for things that already existed.
@@juanausensi499 Or my personal favorite theory: While Yahweh was going around "speaking" things into existence, some trickster god was walking right behind him, magically creating everything and letting Yahweh believe it was all his own work, just for the laughs.
@@LadyDoomsinger That's hilarious!
They say stupid things and then get angry when you reject those stupid things they say.
What's stupid is him trying to say the pay gap is real... Implying it's related to bigotry and unfairness... Rather than related to choices of profession and market value... Men do 99% the dangerous well paying labor jobs.. women don't. There's more biology going on than misogyny.. sad to hear him falling so far off the wagon of rational thought.
@@mrdgenerate I'm talking about theists.
The reason the cultists get angry is because they're so insulated from reality in their comfortable little cult bubbles that they even believe the lies they're told about how non-cultists have just never even heard of the tiny, oppressed True(rm) Religion(tm) of Christianity(tm).
Like, when the Jehovah's Witlesses knock on your door, they're actually convinced you've never even _heard_ the name Jesus before. They're trained wrong on purpose, with the idea that merely telling people the "good news" will make the satanic scales fall from their eyes and immediately devote themselves to God(tm) for all eternity.
They're trained wrong, because _when_ that fails, they run back to their cult bubble and cry to Mommy Pastor about it, and Mommy Pastor gets to go "You see? The _World_ [disgusted spitting and retching noises] truly IS Fallen(tm) and Corrupt(tm)! You better not ever try to leave us or else you'll be tortured forever just like them!"
With the Jehovahs, they're trained to run away. All the other cults, though? The well-meaning dunces just think you're slapping their generosity away, when in reality we just don't want their shit on us. Of course they'd get angry. From their perspective, we're being _rude._ While they call us evil and deserving of suffering. Everything cultists do is backwards by design.
@@mrdgenerate I'm sorry you are hurt, but this is a channel about atheism
@@mrdgeneratewtf are you even saying?
Children who parrot the terrible arguments of their role models hurt even more.
yeah, that was just sad.
They are in for a shock to the system when they try those terrible apologetics on atheists and people of other religions.
Which is a good thing because many of them will learn they were lied to. They will learn what they were told atheists believe is a theist strawman.
How is stuff like that even legal?
@@meloneybecause many people around the world fall for this bullshit even our own politicians mostly right wing
“Say, nice beaver!”
“Thanks, I just had it stuffed.”
Save a tree, eat a beaver
God hasn't seen my heart, a surgeon has.
Broken 2 chest spreaders and worn out a bonesaw. Never seen a single word on any heart.
If you accept any of their arguments for their god, you have to accept all arguments for all gods and magical beings.
First mover. Therefore Odin!
@@christasimon9716Haw dare you offend Zeus the mighty ⚡️thrower ! 😂😁
That call and response service was extremely cult-like. That pastor’s “followers” are very brainwashed. Scary.
"I am your brainwasher. Tell me what I taught you I want to hear, or else."
MOAR HEN!
@@MarilynMonRover Moor Hen.
Yep. Some African pastors have got their followers to eat grass, drink petrol and similar silly to dangerous shenanigans.
Then there's the ones who con parents into letting them "exorcise", ie, abuse, their children, and to pay for the pastor for "service".
They are a lot of very shouty men
They’re quite happy to ascribe winning a football match or a country music award to their god but you can’t take the opposite view when something negative occurs?
Yep. Everything good that happens is because of god. Everything bad that happens is your fault. 🤪
@@shldnfr Or Satan's fault.
'Just look at the beavers' does seem a bit more exciting than 'Just look at the trees.'
Well that’s true!
You can't have something that isn't made of anything, can't change(time), and isn't anywhere. It's literally just nothing.
Imaginary beings.
It doesn’t exist anywhere for any period of time.
It’s literally impossible for it to exist.
Well Kent Hovind saying stupid stuff is par for the course. I did appreciate that painkiller related pun.
Kent Hovind - alleged former school science teacher, names only half the known states of matter. At least he found a minion (Matt Powell) of equal-or-greater stupidity.
Dude, what are you saying? Beavers are amazing! So cute and furry. Ok, some of them might smell a little bit fishy, especially when they're wet, but I don't mind. I love beavers.
HAHAHA 🍻
That's a very good way to phrase things so that we can't really be sure if you're equivocating or not... 😏
Just don't leave them out for too long. An exposed beaver is bad.
I love Otters...
Combine both....Otterbeaver?
Going down?
What's great is that any two people who use any of these arguments can meet each other, hear each other's particular denominational beliefs, and then denounce each other as heretics. It's easy to claim you speak the truth, until you're put in a room with other people who say the same thing.
Say amen!
I mean, it's still easy after you meet the others too, just even more obviously BS and mental gymnastics.
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I think it is one of the best proofs there is no god - you're telling me, with a straight face, that making himself identical to the imaginary and all the false gods via faith was a problem your all knowing god did not forsee?
@@phillyphakename1255 … , and all along I thought it was Ramen….
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Theist say stupid things; In other news bears crap in the woods and water is wet.
Water is not wet. Go ahead throw a glass of water at more water and tell me if you got that water wet.
@@TheHimmusfundamentally u could say water is wet, the molecules making up the water give off the emergent properties of “wetness.” therefor, every water molecule touching each other is technically “wet”
@@KoRmA-Alt Have you tried making any water wetter lately? Let me know how that works out for you.
@@TheHimmus not wetter, just wet in general
WHAT?! I thought wet were bears and water crapped in the woods!
The other night I had a vision of a woman in a car, gibbering.
God
I had a difficult time understanding the African preacher's accent. I had to replay it and listen carefully. He did repeatedly say that God will preserve you alive. I do not know of anyone who Godfrey has kept alive. He also quotes Jeremiah 49:11. He forgot Jeremiah 20:7 "Oh, God, Thou hast deceived me, and I was deceived....." Dad used to say of the Arabs "Don't tell the people the truth. Tell them what they want to hear." I used to debate with a Mormon fellow. No matter what logical arguments I offered, he always had a rebuttal -inevitably religious. I finally realized "Never argue with a fool, lest you discover the fool is doing the same."
And who is the 'shouty man' he was constantly referring to?
The thing I can't stand about the prime mover is that they just pretend that it has to be their god
Like how?
Is Number 2 a prime movement?
What annoys me actually is that they assume the prime mover must be a conscious entity.
@@pythondrink That's actually an interesting point. If a god is timeless and unchanging, how can it be said to be either conscious or thinking?
@@condorboss3339I am firmly in the "2 is prime" camp. My argument is a classic "look at the trees", maybe a little "the fool says in his heart that there is no prime #2."
Look at the trees and masting behavior, putting out oodles of seeds one year, then minimal for a few years, before returning to oodles and starting the cycle again. This always happens in prime numbered years, 3, 5, 7, 11, etc. But it also happens in some species every 2 years.
Nature proves 2 is prime! Say amen!
What annoys me the most is the assumption that the natural state of reality is that everything stands still and nothing happens.
Why not the other way around? What if the universe just naturally moved by it's very nature, and it would take an act of God to make it stand still?
"Today we will be defeating atheists... Let's start with definition. Yeah, sure - go and define things so they perfectly line up with the premise inside your head. Then you'll be able to win any argument - as long as your opponent is inside your head too.
I just assumed they would have evidence to prove God or they wouldn't have said so. I already abandoned atheism at the beginning of the video and am in search of a god. I think I'm going with Lisa the rainbow giraffe.
@@willj1598 Leaf be upon you!
The Aspirin in the jungle joke is underappreciated
I’m glad someone noticed it!
@@TheSkepTickit was hilarious
I laughed so hard at that! 🤣
@@TheSkepTickI just got that joke the parrots ate ‘em all pun XD Good one
I've studied a few amazing beavers that were enough to make me get on my knees and praise God. 😏
As always, "things have physical properties that interact with one another in regular ways, therefore GAAAAAWD."
The fool says in his heart there is no mah-tuhr.
For anyone saying "order doesn't come from chaos," here's an easy experiment you can do at home to demonstrate:
Get you a carton of bb's, or gumballs, etc. (as long as they are roughly similar in size), and a clear container, like a glass jar.
Pour them into the jar, and see how they settle after a few "layers" build up. Try adding bb's in handfuls, too, just to change it up.
With enough bb's in the jar, you will see a hexagonal pattern arising as they settle into place. None of them were placed (in this case) with any design; they were poured/dropped in randomly (chaos) and naturally, based on their shape, have arranged themselves into a pattern (order).
If this simple experiment can show order arising from chaos, then why should similar principles not also extend to the broader universe at large? Diamonds form naturally, and are lattices of carbon atoms. The metal spoon in your kitchen is a crystalline lattice which formed by simply melting the metal and letting it cool. Order without specific design occurs all the time, all around us.
Creatards will just respond you proved their point because bb's are designed. There's no way to explain a point to someone who's identity depends on not learning.
That's where your common or garden variety apologist chimes in with "therefore God!". It has always, even when I was a lukewarm believer, struck me as an awful big stretch.
Solid, liquid, gas, plasma, supercritical fluid, chain-melted state, superfluid, supersolid, Bose-Einstein condensates, fermionic condensates, neutron degenerate matter, quantum spin liquid, etc Ah the holy trinity of states of matter!
Thanks! I immediately thought of several additional states of matter, but your list is more comprehensive.
Also whatever is at the core of black holes, whatever dark matter turns out to be, and several others we can't yet conceive [edit] also, Kent is a dumbass and always has been.
It's Kent Hovind, one of the biggest morons in apologetics. Kent is to knowledge is like a watermelon is to a bicycle.
I remember Bose-Einstein Condensate being used in a bad movie where a bunch of ghosts were created using that and they'd freeze people on contact even if they were inside a tank. The only way to stop them was to use iron fillings or energy weapons. Which apparently are very easy to make using your spare electronics.
Besides the fact that there are fewer nuns all the time, fewer of the nuns that are left wear habits. That unfortunate woman is an endangered species -- definitely proof against intelligent design.
That third kid looked awfully staged, though.
@@LlortnerofIt's cult propaganda. Of _course_ it's staged. That's what church _is._ A stage performance. Except the audience (and sometimes the actors) are too dumb to realize it's all just silly nonsense theatrics.
@@EdwardHowton
You mean Greg Locke's audience are not just there to watch him do crazy stuff but actually believe what he says? :D
I never want to hear Kent hovind say mat-ter ever again.
That at WA-TER
Thank Lisa the rainbow giraffe for TheSkepTick.
Amen, leaf be up on here.
The sad thing about the kids is you can tell they were just reciting from rote learning
So do beavers build god dams?
HAHAHA 😂
For what the beavers intend for them to do, yes.
oh, for fox ache!
Comment of the month 🥇
That last woman was so vague with her vision that she could've talked about me and I'm not even Christian. But this is how it works. Making big statements that fit like everyone...
A few weeks ago, I had a really messed up dream that I was tied to a chair in the basement of a Russian prison. Vladimir Putin was throwing empty vodka bottles at me. When I told Putin that I had already told the KGB, everything I knew, he said I don't do this to make you talk. I do it for fun.
It turns out that the dream did have a meaning. I had rolled over, and my arm was pinned behind my back in a very uncomfortable way. These are the only dreams that have meanings.
I can't even begin to explain my dreams... My head is a very strange place to be...
Man you're lucky. My dreams are things like being late for work or going on a holiday. Then it skips a few hours and I end up going home and lying in bed... then I wake up and it's like "Oh I gotta go to work actually"
Great a guy using inmate as a source, a mega church preacher fellow, and generic car theist has dreams.
"What takes the parents will not take the children". Apparently, he's completely unaware of diseases and natural disasters.
I am 61 years old and I hold down a very well-paid job. But it was nothing to do with a god, and everything to do was studying hard at school and gaining a B Eng in Electronic Engineering and a BA in Applied Maths at university.
The way the last lady kept saying "this is your season" made me think about dogs. Probably not what she was aiming for
I love how these delusional people who despite the complete lack of any god(s) evidence somehow know exactly what he/ they are thinking
The first clip alone got me "If you watch a Beaver long enough you'll see proof of god." Like WHAT?!? If you watch an animal with instincts to artificially stop the flow of water and make their own still lakes because they can not safely survive on the ground or in quick moving water... that somehow proves there is an intelligent creator out there... If anything doesn't the behaviour or a beaver illustrate how the beaver is their own creator and master of its universe rather than a higher power or god?
Also just a shot in the dark with the lady trying to tell the world her vision... she just got dumped and needed to hype herself up. It all seemed to be about personal growth until she got to the part about personal doubts and used examples like "is that person thinking about me," "should I text them now," and "should I make the first move" sounds less like growth for an individual and more like dating/relationship advice. I also love how she's suggesting religious people should ghost the non religious people... but totally forgot the religion she claims to follow would also consider her "vision" a message from the devil not God since soothsayers, mages, and other mystic/faith workers outside of God and his Church are false and the worker of pretenders that must be ignored by the faithful.
1. Beavers.
2. Never mind.
3. Therefore god!
@@jonathanj8303 Sounds like the Underpants Gnomes path to profit... and I am here for it!
1) Humans build buildings for human purposes, therefore a god who resembles people built the universe.
2) Beavers build lodges for beaver purposes, therefore the Great Beaver built the beaver dam that encompasses the universe.
(Ik I'm late but)
Me who watches animal documentaries and still has doubts: 🧍
That aspirin joke was killer!
Appreciate you!
"Something, something, God. Thus Irrefutable proof.":That seems to be all their arguments.
If you are fasting, you will get delirious and your mind will play tricks. That is why religious people do it. They think it brings them closer to God. It is not a good practice to deprive your body of the proteins it needs. 😂
Yes, your brain needs sugar, water and oxygen to survive or function properly. Disrupt that just a little and things go horribly wrong. When it happens to a diabetic it's a medical emergency, when these people do it to themselves it inspired by sky daddy.
They also do it to 'subdue the desires of the flesh'. If you're half-starved you're not gonna think about sexy times.
I'm pretty sure there's not a single belief held my every single human on earth
I would be very surprised
One example of an extremely common belief is "I exist."
Plus, isn't that an all-time greatest argument for popularity?
About missing the penalty kick - that was her last world cup after winning what, 2 or 3? She can miss one...
Yet another example of the double standards the USWNT have to deal with.
20:53 - Well, your godless heathen friends don't dance. And if they don't dance, they're no godless heathen friends of mine
All I'm gonna say is that guy who genuinely proposed kent had proved gods existence...
God, I hope his carers are paid well.
One would think the almighty creator of the universe could show himself to everyone, but strangely enough he let this low hanging fruit to be his spokespersons...
"Sportsballers have frequently used their victories to say God is on their side, but this one said otherwise, & I'm very mad about it. I'm also going to show a bunch of clips of her doing completely normal things that totally makes me look like a massive misogynist." Followed by "I'm not saying I have dreams from God & that makes me better...but I am definitely saying that."
Yea and the skeptic now thinks women sports should be paid the same as men... I like atheist content but this leftist garbage is ridiculous.
He does know than in most cases the men's league subsidizes the women's and they wouldn't have a league at all if the men didn't give them millions of dollars a year..... Doesn't he? Guess not.
"I won't be going to the white house" from a literal pink haired feminist is the one that got me. Like, how shocked can you reasonably be? The guy in the white house literally lost a civil rape trial. Feminists aren't big fans of rapists, among all the other issues.
It shows how obnoxiously engrained Christianity is into our culture. If someone isn't Christian, doesn't toe the party line, we are *shocked* by the blasphemy. If someone asks for equal pay or better when they are performing better, they are a heretic, etc.
@@phillyphakename1255 I'd probably have advised any females to not go on general principle during his tenure. No matter their ideology or orientation.
@@Llortnerof not gonna disagree on that one, just pointing out how you shouldn't be shocked when an atheist doesn't go to church. Like, that's kinda their thing!
God will deliver me? He's doing Uber now?
Lyft, actually. The tithes are really down.
Obstetrician, actually.
Does what it says on the tin. This video indeed has a bunch of theists saying stupid things
I'd love to see a dream interpreter try to interpret my dreams. They're mostly calculus on radial coordinate systems in manifolds
Thank God for the Tick!
You mean thank Lisa
I miss that show
Theists always have the most profound and thought provoking statements. Can’t get enough of this channel!!!
That “SAY AMEN!!” sounds like a threat😂
I can almost guarantee the venom the football fan man has toward Megan Rapinoe in particular is that she's an out and proud queer person. Those clips definitely weren't all religion related. He's just hateful. To paraphrase an EXCELLENT film, "Oh my God, like, why are you so obsessed with her???"
That apostle dude in Nigeria, where poverty is some of the worst in the world, is worth over $100 million.
Why is a nun asking a ten year old boy from Hogwarts for the answers to existence?
I've studied beavers my whole life. Love a good beaver.
😏
The "Dream Woman's" predictions are somewhat reminiscent of Monty Python,
These kids are going to get they're asses kicked out in the real world. 😂
As an indoctrinated kid who got his ass kicked out in the real world, I can confirm, unlike Jesus, this is definitely coming.
@lout160 I feel for you. I dated a girl raised in a fundamental family a couple of years ago. She grew up in a private fundamental school. When she tried to stay college to be a very she couldn't handle it. She stayed a recluse until her dad left the family. Her first job ever was at the age of 27 at an amazon FC. That's where we met. It took me a while to figure all this out because she couldn't straight out say all this. I don't think she'll ever have a relationship. It's saddening to me.
@@theantitheist1 I appreciate that. I essentially derailed my life under the influence of christian mythology. But I also don't think I would have developed as deep of an understanding of myself and those around me had I not gone through it. Regardless, support from people like you feels so much more meaningful where it's not contingent upon some dogmatic pretext or forced through some "servant of god" facade. Thanks for the sentiment and for being real.
@lout160 hate the religion, not the ppl themselves.
@@theantitheist1 Absolutely. I don't consider that "servant of god" mode to be part of the person. I'm very close with many religious people. It's just really frustrating having that disconnect between us and seeing the damage it does to them. It makes me feel like an outcast more often than not, so sympathy or empathy is a huge deal to me as I almost never receive it outside of a religious context.
Why the only thing I can think of the "shout amen" guy is Jeb "Please Clap" Bush
Video idea: *get 2 pastors, but 1 is told to pretend to be an Atheist and they debate eachother. The winner of the dabate wins a cash prize!*
You can’t objectively measure who wins a debate lol
And any audience polls is going to be insanely biased on if majority watching is atheist or religious
If people can cite a positive personal experience as proof of god, why can’t someone cite a negative experience as proof no god intervened to protect them?
Good = God
Bad = Man
Apparently.
I used to be partial to ranch but now leaning more towards Russian dressing on my christian word salad. All Ham.
Russian dressing is underrated.
The girl with the "Vision" describing a stupid dream she had was my favorite.
I took a sheet of paper, pen and randomly moved my hand.
Designed indeed 😅
This is one of your best videos in a while love it.
These feel like students trying to pass a class using ad-libbed thrown together bs word salad.
You pronounced it correctly, thank you so much ❤
The Megan Rapino thing is really funny. Because when she got injured in her last game that was the first time in decades I thought there might actually be a God!!! 😂
Aww, Kent thinks there's just three phases of matter. Bless his heart
Kent thinks a descriptive phrase ("in the beginning") is an action.
Not good on how literature works.
Would feel sorry if he wasn't such a terrible person
Kent is stuck in 8th grade science as it was taught in 1960. It explains both his bad and outdated arguments, as well as his unyielding reverence for middle school science textbooks as a source of infinite truth about the state of modern science.
I said the same thing. Also, when he said that time, space, and matter can't exist without the other, he madesome assumptionsthat arent supd snd ignored a condition.
He said, " if you have matter and no space where would you put it. If you had matter and space but no time when would you put it ."
Even if we assume that matter needs a space to exist, we don't know that space and matter need time to exist. But even saying that it does, he never addresses the fact of if you can have space and time without matter.
And fancies himself a science teacher, let's not forget that...
To be fair, most people are taught the three basic states of matter. Plasma and Condensate are a bit more advanced concepts.
Like the five senses. We got a lot more than five but you only really teach the five basic ones and maybe add balance as a 6th while everything else is for the nerds :D
So 3 states and 5 senses is enough for say a primary school science teacher. But I guess Kent thinks himself as a high school one so yeah he'd need to provide the others.
15:39 Wow…a _Demolition Man_ reference. And a mildly obscure one at that. Well done.
"Might makes right" lol they admit it without using the words😅😅
Dream lady's eyebrows are impeccable
I love that Rapinoe said that. After hearing SO MANY (mostly male) athletes boast that GOD made them win some sporting event...as if god would have nothing better to do with his time that randomly favor one team over another in a SPORTING event. "I am GOD'S chosen!" Talk about ego.
7:08 "This man proves the existence of god!" Cuts to Kent Hovind! Did a freaking spit take! 😂
I liked how proud he was with his "findings"
22:00 She sounds like a Palm Reader; pure dribble
It sounds like a classic MLM script.
If beaver is so good, why there's no beaver 2?
There is beaver, too.
I think Beaver 2 is either the Folktails or the Ironteeth... they just gotta sort it out.
18:26 I just had a dream that my family went on a vacation to somewhere in southeast Asia and I discovered a humanoid scorpion so I climbed a tree and took pictures of it while it was just walking around. I think my dream beats hers.
Oh that damn duck guy!
The amount of brain washing going on with that Q and A session is deeply troubling.
God said that we should multiply.
Then God kills all except eight.
Then God sends plauges and illness killing many.
Then God divides us, by language and ideologies.
This seems to be contrary in nature.
One possible hypothesis to explain this, is that God just wants to watch us multply... that He likes to watch.
Man, the dude with the footballer; Pratchett’s Small Gods would blow his mind. The philosophers who question the existance of the Gods need to wear well-insulated shoes in that book 😂
In _Feet of Clay_ we get a ceramic atheist who can survive disassembly.
Order and regularity prove design?
My … um … well … bowels move every morning in an orderly fashion at the same time every day like clockwork.
So my poops prove design?
Who knew?!
The woman that's "prophesizing".... The way it sounds.... Hmmmmmm ... I thought Christians didn't approve of or believe in tarot!
Oh ... she had a dream ... thats it, its all the evidences I needed.
I wonder why that last woman mentioned fasting as a means to come into an 'intimate' relationship. It sounds as if she is a. trying to justify her anorexia, or b. a fictophile (aka no one within her family is worth her love, either because she is narcisstic, or because she had a childhood full of neglects)
I've seen a few beavers that make me say oh god, but that's about the extent of it.
"I'm gonna talk some bollocks, shouty man!"
"My words sound pretty, shouty man!"
"but in reality are vacuous, shouty man!"
"Increased volume equals me being right, shouty man!"
but in reality i'm just a shouty man!"
It's so funny watching the Nigerian pastor Suleman
_"SHOUTY MAN!"_ 😂👍
Wasn't he Super Ted's sidekick?
Every time you post a video, no matter how dumb i feel, you always make me feel like there’s always someone dumber than me. You. ❤❤❤
It’s actually absurd how Christians use free will as an example of god, somehow? When in reality, the concept and implications of free will directly contradict their god.
The Christian god is omniscient (among other things), so he knows everything that has happened, and more importantly, everything that will happen.
This directly implies a predetermined future, which contradicts free will, since everything you do is simply an advancement towards that determined future. So a world with a Christian god can’t have free will, simply the illusion of it. And that’s only one of the many contradictions faced by the existence of the Abrahamic Christian god as described in the Bible.
Anyway, this entertained me during my midnight snack, so I thought I’d repay.
You just earned another sub and enough for a snack of your own 😁
@5:00 he simply asserts that order and regularity can only exist with a plan. That’s his entire point.
Also, all effects are also causes
Also, although completely spontaneous events such as particle decay are possible, most phenomena are a consequence of INTERACTIONS.
Therefore it's more correct to say that most events have multiple "causes." On this basis, it would be nonsensical to infer that going back in time we would ever arrive at a First Cause.
10:57 this guy s combination of weirdass sayings with the musical cadence of his speech and accent are entertaining af to listen to ,Id listen to it while eating breakfast or on my tractor mowing lawns.
Maybe it should be "Stupid Theists Say Things" as it's pretty much guarantied that anything a theist says about a god is going to be stupid.
That’s a fair point! 😅
I thought he was talking about "shouty men"
Same here. It took me listening carefully to cut through the accent.
Well beavers will inherit the Earth from stupid hoomans. Now the real question is will it be Folkkails or the heretical Ironteeth?
Could be one of those modded factions...
I feel this series was started because of missing the mark 😂
Johnson Suleman ( 8:28 & following) would make as much sense if he were shouting random quotes from _Finnegan's Wake_ . Happy Bloomsday.