Ya like an explosion from nothing made of nothing thar creates everything right haha how silly. What was there? Nothing. What cause it? Nothing. Where was it? Nowhere. If your kids answered you that way thed be in trouble What are you talking about? How silly nothing from nowhere is your God! Your religion is unbelief and morals are arbitrary personal ideas.
What's really amazing is that people( Christians) that have NDE's and see Jesus, usually see him as the same ethnicity as they are and speaks the same language! That sure is considerate of Jesus the Changeling, eh?
i fucking HATE when they do that... it's bullying, and they know it... so much for religion making you a better person. (still recovering from my irrational fear of hell as it has been conditioned into my being through indoctrination, a form of child abuse)
@@zhou_seithey will never view it as bullying. As a kid I stated I didn't believe in middle of religion class. Teacher and students gasped and the teacher called over the intercom. Next thing I know I was surrounded by 4 adults in the hallway. They yelled at me and threatened me with hell. I'm still not a believer but it had determinetal effects. Of course they will never accept the fact they did damage.
Original sin is a central tenet of Christianity. If there's no original sin, humans aren't inherently evil, so we don't deserve eternal punishment and therefore don't need a savour to deliver us from it. The clergy have to convince people they're sick so they can peddle Jesus as the only cure.
I actually took a Philosophy of Religion university course, and Aquinas was one of the first things we covered. Mind you, the course was not meant to be an affirmation of any sort of religious philosophy, just that it explores what the philosophies are observed to be. The one from Aquinas that bugged me the most (not that anything else that Aquinas said or argued did not bug me - it all did) was how supposedly God is everywhere and evil only exists where God is absent. Wait, so God is everywhere and yet there are places where he is not and therefore are evil? Cue me putting on my best Igor face from Young Frankenstein as I say, "Well then he's not everywhere, is he? Some all-powerful omnipresent God you blindly worship then."
I hate Voldemort and that stupid king from Game of Thrones, but I know that they're just invented asshole characters in fictional stories... Seriously, I've always disliked that response to the "atheists hate god" thing. _Of course_ I can hate something that I don't believe exists. What aggravates me far more about that bullshit is that they claim to know better than me what's going on in my head. It's exactly the same arrogant bullshit as "all atheists actually do know full well that there is a god" - so if I shoul ever engage with such an arrogant asshole, my response would be more along the lines of "You actually know full well that this god doesn't exist, so why are you lying about your own beliefs?" It won't make any difference, but with someone _that_ arrogant and close-minded, it would take ages or some _very_ lucky coincidence to get through their "armor of god" anyway.
It's easy actually. I hate lots of things that don't exist. Bad people or gods in stories that do horrible things in those stories. The thing is that my hating it is not a reason for not believing. I hate cancer. That exists and it hasn't gone away despite my deep hatred for it and it serves me well to believe that it exists. It allows me to adjust my behaviour to actually (help) change things. For one, understanding something brings comfort, so I can use that to help comfort other people as well and make them feel supported and more in charge of being able to choose how a sickness will be treated and experienced. I tried that with god but thought policing and condemning myself didn't help resolve the causes for my fears and angers; learning more and having a way to check if the information I have is correct did though. As it turns out, you're not your thoughts and you can just check if they're even justified or made up or anything in between or beyond and then decide whether to act on it or not and how, and again, the best thing about it is that it works better when doing it with other people. Cooperation works! God beliefs are intrinsically abusive.
@@stylis666 wait.. are you saying, the outcome of a decision is directly proportional to the accuracy of the information used in making the decision? Good accurate information leading to better outcomes?? Astonishing 😉
It never ceases to amaze me that the watchmaker argument is basically comparing designed things to non-designed things like rocks and trees etc, to say these non-designed things have to have a designer.
"I met Jesus". Knew a woman in college who was highly religious. She could not make a sentence without mentioning Jesus, God or praising them. So one day I get a phone call from her and she is all excited, just keeps rattling on. When she calmed down it went like this: Her: " I just met Jesus in the flesh." Me: " How you you know he is Jesus?" Her: " He came and sat across the table from me." Me: " But how do you know he is Jesus?" Her: " We talked and he had long hair." Me: " That does not mean he was Jesus." Her: " As we talked, looking each other in the eyes, his brown eyes turned to a sky blue. It is Jesus!!" Me: " Where are you?" Her: " I'm up at Saint Joseph Hospital in the psych ward." Me: " Why are you there?" Her: " I was not feeling very well so I checked myself in." So there you have it. If you are looking for Jesus, you will find him in the psych ward at Saint Joseph Hospital in Fort Wayne, Indiana.
@@tatiana4050, In case you missed it. She was already in the whack shack ward of the hospital. "She was hallucinating". No she was just one of those extremely religious people. Safe to say I know/knew her better than you.
This reminds me so much of a time when I was a Christian and had just finished reading the Bible one day, and I felt like I was “filled with the spirit” so I started walking down the hall and past a painting of white Jesus we had in our house with blue eyes. I thought his eyes turned black and sparkled, and I interpreted this as Jesus approving my Bible reading. Now I know I was just hallucinating because of my beliefs lol.
My experience with people who think they became less of a jerk after they met Jesus is that they are just as much of a jerk as before, only that now they are convinced that their jerkdom is justified and therefore somehow makes them not jerks.
Reminds me of a kind gentleman at a social coffee thing for poor sobs like me. "Hi." Ey. "Do you believe in Jesus?" O_o I'm Setekh, and you are? " John, hi, do you believe in Jesus?" Nope, coffee? "No thanks. You have to believe in something." I do, that's why I'm here with these wonderful people who prove their kindness with everything they say and do. He complained that we were a bunch of jerks, left, and he never came back. 😂
Me that's me. Getting into road rage fights short tempered ready to leave my wife. You say anything wrong to me and I would go off. Because of Jesus I get angry but I calm down I remembered his words. This lady at the store said she would be passed I said how can I act that way and wear a Jesus shirt I caint so I'm calm than you Jesus. I was ready to stab someone cause they touched me aggressively years ago thank you Jesus I'm not like that anymore!! I get angry and remembered that's not what Jesus taught let it go give it to God. A man touched his pants and made my daughter pizza I was ready to fight him in the pizza hut cause he didn't say sorry God has brought me a long way people think I'm chill now if they only knew me younger they'd see how much Jesus has truly changed my life I don't live angry anymore and I let it go as best I can because he has everything!!! My main Goal is to not be selfish in anything.
It's difficult to take someone talking about Thomas Aquinas seriously when he doesn't even know how to pronounce the name. Apparently he's never attended a philosophy class.
Child abuse can, and often does, ruin a child's life for ever. I have known some adults who still visit psychologists and are traumatised decades after the abuse....'These torturers, I would call them, cause so much suffering and mostly get away with it@@tristanmisja
That one guy is denser than a neutron star if he really believes people never wrote fictional stories back then. Does that guy think all the different god stories were true then? I would guess not. The Epic of Gilgamesh alone dates ways before the Bible!
Of course, 13th century Thomas Aquinas quotes were bound to be based upon what was understood in the 13th century. I have reasons to suspect that the knowledge base has changed since then.
Gosh, you mean that people learn and expand their understanding? What a radical concept - to those that base their belief on a 1500 year old book which is the infallible word of god.
@@clemstevensonthe funniest bit is that the fourth way, if the way they described it was what he said, is flat out plagiarism as there’s an Ancient Greek philosopher (I forget who) who said those things already. It’s one of the famous ones.
@@KurenaiNanashi Aquinas was borrowing from Aristotle...and he cited his source, so not plagiarism. He was assembling arguments missionaries could use into a single book..."Summa Contra Gentiles" was not meant to be original thought. The arguments themselves only work within the limited knowledge base available to Aquinas at the time...and even in his time they were challenged.
It’s simply amazing how Christian’s so readily accept mere claims as evidence. I suspect that if I wrote a book that stated that they had done some horrendous deed that they would immediately demand more proof than a written statement claiming that it was so. It’s a mind boggling double standard that only goes to prove the gullibility of the believers.
You need to be lacking common sense to believe in Christian teachings,it's pure nonsense.I'm attacking Christianity because its the only religeon I was subjected too. 🎉.
And worse than that, the standards for evidence in real life events aren't consistent either. Respected community member: innocent and truthful despite evidence against it. Gay person: lying groomer by default and at the very least demonic and generally infectious and a bad example to people. Atheist: two faced liars with a wishy washy basis for morality; can't be trusted. I'm so happy that I'm free of such dogma's and I can just trust people who demonstrate reliability instead, despite knowing we're probably wrong about most things we say. Sincere people ar least care if they're wrong because it impacts not just their life but everyone else's as well. For example: I told my brother he had his pants on backwards. It made him look and I laughed at him for being so gullible :p I know him well, his first response isn't to think it's bullshit but to wonder HOWWww?!?! So he automatically looks for more information. Which is a good thing so I acknowledge and encourage it with a joke. Truth always matters, even when you're making shit up.
Two comments from Ambrose "Bitter" Bierce (The Devil's Dictionary). 1 -Life is something we are in daily apprehension of losing, but once lost is never missed. 2 -Mythology is the body of a primitive people's origins, early history, heroes, deities, and so forth, as distinguished from the true accounts which it invents later.
Bierce, my idol. Ironically, I was introduced to his Devil's Dictionary by reading a mention of it in the Worldwide Church of God's publication, The Plain Truth. I was intrigued that Bierce had written a book with such a title and tracked down a copy
Some of his reasoning made sense, but it just wasn't grounded in reality so has no value beyond demonstrating the flaws of his belief. His claim about his awareness being peaceful made me think he needed to be shoved out of a high window just to demonstrate what the rush of adrenaline would do to his peace of mind, but that would be an unnecessarily extreme method of making a point. Anyway, he was clearly trying to avoid using the words 'soul' or 'consciousness' because he knows the first would get him laughed at after he made so much of science being the right way to investigate things and the second would completely undermine his argument.
With a pretty face like that, it doesn't matter that the number of cells rattling around up there is inversely proportional to the number of words coming out of his cakehole.
@@Justas399 It’s spelled “abiogenesis” BTW. What proof do you have that it didn’t? Also, even if that were the case, that still does nothing in terms of proving a god(s) existence.
Oh, powers... that kid at the end. That's a guy who contemplated his own self-awareness and was terrified by, well, everything and who had to go run to the easiest theological comfort blanket he could find. Oh, hey... is there Lisa the Rainbow Giraffe (Leaf be upon her) plushie?
You gotta appreciate how Ray Touch My Banana Comfort breezes on right by Solomon's 1,000 wives. I thought it was one man, one woman, Ray. Or maybe that's only if bananas are in season.....
2:03 As a former Nichiren Buddhist I also had faith experiences that I believed that overcoming obstacles, and having good fortune were related to my Buddhist practice. In time I realized that I was just seeing things differently. If something good happened, it was because of good fortune from my Buddhist practice. If something bad happened it was an obstacle that I could challenge with my Buddhist practice. I have since deconverted and still see good and bad things happen in my life. I now just appreciate the good things, and learn to accept the bad.
Indeed. It may suck if it happens to be that more bad happens than good, but ascribing it to any religious belief is not an actual answer as to why, let alone a guide to any sort of solution to the real and/or perceived problem(s). Perhaps the most reliable answer to why is, to me at least (and pardon me if I sound crass), "Sh^t happens, sh^t will likely and perhaps undoubtedly continue to happen, and you can either accept the sh^t as good or at least contribute in any number of ways to try to reduce the sh^t. Take your pick, but only one of these choices actually strives to get rid of the sh^t." Religion might, MIGHT serve as an okay (at best) introduction to morality, but it is hardly the best case for it. I can grant that the more atheistic religions do not fall into _all_ of the same pitfalls as the thestic ones do, but they still ultimately fall into enough of them. It is like the difference between a POS and a particularly fetid POS: one might be comparatively more pleasant to smell than the other, but both still stink and need to be disposed of. Sorry if I sounded rather crass, but 30 years of living in the southern US and amongst the bad stereotypes you likely heard about the region will leave plenty of scars.
@@Justas399 And yet unlike with anything theists say, atheists can do what theists can never do: actually show the atoms in motion, along with the results can come from atoms being in motion. And last I checked, Oppenheimer quite boldly demonstrated what one of those results of certain atoms in motion is.
@@DavidRichardson153 atheism has nothing to do with science. In fact, it was Christians who invented the scientific method and were the early scientists. “To be fair, the claim that Christianity led to modern science captures something true and important. Generations of historians and sociologists have discovered many ways in which Christians, Christian beliefs, and Christian institutions played crucial roles in fashioning the tenets, methods and institutions of what in time became modern science…today almost all historians agree that Christianity (Catholicism as well as Protestantism) moved early-modern intellectuals to study nature systematically.” Noah J Efron “Myth 9: That Christianity Gave Birth to Modern Science” in Galileo Goes to Jail and Other Myths About Science and Religion (R Numbers ed.) Harvard University Press 2009 p
"There wasn't a careful historical fictional writing in the 1st century".... yeah, they weren't careful. The stories are crazy, and all over place they needed an editor and they are called 'myths' now. Epic of gilgamesh, story of icarus, the adventures of other mythological figures, and so and so forth. That statement is just an admission of "i don't know about myths" whether that lack of knowledge is by ignorance is up for debate. Also some of the stories were set in the modern day when they were told 2000 yrs ago, just like spider-man is in the modern day of whenever a story is told now.
The bible had a huge number of editors in the 3rd century AD, namely the Nicean Councils. They tried to turn a bunch of inconsistent stories into some kind of coherent narrative, with questionable success.
Ray. You think because people are not shit scared of Hell that they are superficial. Your understanding of human psychology is superficial. You have the moral sophistication of a six year old. They parent knows all. The parent is always right. Rules is rules because the parent says so.
Yes, they say very stupid things, and then they try to quote to you many different versions of Romans 1:20. But when they try that with me, it is like shields up.
The best response is to reverse it: " _No Christian (or Muslim, etc) REALLY believes there is a God, they just keep saying it to convince themselves it is true_ " They will inevitably respond they DO know what they believe and you reply " _And so do I_ "
@@condorboss3339 I truelly believe that ALL POPES know Christian teachings are nonsense.They must know in their own mind that they are not any closer to a God than any other believer in chinese whispers.
Romans 1:20 always reminds me of that folklore tale..."The Emperor's New Clothes" in that only a fool could not see the emperor's invisible (non existent) clothing. Yet, if you are not a fool but a wise person, the invisible (non existent) clothes can be clearly seen.
I now believe in the omniscience of the omnipotent omnipresent British Floating Circle. I converted from the First Pastafarian Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
9:24 If there actually was archeological evidence to back up the stories and figures in the New Testament he might be onto something. Independent corroboration is valuable. However what little archeological corroboration exists is only of a few places. So we're still stuck with the Spiderman problem.
Even if every location and person were falsifiable it still wouldn't bring you any closer to the NT supernatural claims. The is no such power in archaeology. If this were true, we could make a much better case for Zeus.
I'm a proud Atheist Antinatalist Animal Rights Vegan (AAARV) as are all my friends and family. And most of them and I are certain aliens do visit Earth, sometimes abduct people. Religiontards should be ASHAMED to openly admit they believe in "gods" or "demons" or "Satan" or "angels". Antivaxxers and other antiscientists should be ASHAMED to openly admit they believe in antivaxx conspiracies. Climate deniers should be ASHAMED to openly admit they think "earth is flat" and "AGW isn't real". That's as stupid as believing "gravity isn't real" or "9/11 never happened". Aliens are just other species with advanced technology. They have their own history of evolution both biological and technological. There IS NO "stigma" attached reporting the truth, ANY truth, whether UFOs or whatever one directly observes. There exist ONLY RIGHTWING ASSHOLES who hypocritically ridicule & attack without ever addressing evidence because they put their own stupid ideology of maintaining the status quo at all costs above truth & evidence, who are personally responsible for how they treat or act towards UFO witnesses. NOBODY else's fault. NOT "culture's" fault. NOT "society's" fault. Las Vegas family claims to see aliens after several report something falling from sky th-cam.com/video/oli6Q6y14W8/w-d-xo.html '100% they're not human,' Witness details alleged alien encounter in Las Vegas th-cam.com/video/ROLYGcj5bNM/w-d-xo.html
Regarding the last irritant on the video; I have a number of emotional problems, that plagued me my whole life. A few years ago, I lost my wife- my best friend, of 25 years, and it was the second worst thing that ever happened to me. How did I deal with it? The same way I dealt with the third worst thing (prostate cancer). I am not special. Everybody on this planet dies. Everything dies. I will die. One should live whilst one can. There is beauty, laughter, joy, and love for my children and grand children, among many, many other things (your list may vary). Did I meditate or pray to a god? Of course not. Who would need that? The only speck of pride I retain is that I have no need of a sky father or earth mother to coddle me. I accept life as it is, and that is, to me, the most reliable way to approach life. I don't need his god, nor that god's promises, admonitions, dictates, nor his heaven. No thanks.
The most telling thing about the three most common reasons, is a reason that is conspicuously missing. "I became a Christian because a Christian apologist said I should." Good reason for that. It doesn't happen. So why, if being raised a Christian or having some experience that compelled you to be a Christian, would you expect others to become a Christian simply because some apologist says you should? 🤔
"You need to experience it yourself, for God will blah blah blah yackity-shmackity." Did I misquote the apologist excuse to your observation? Oh wait, yeah, I nearly forgot: "...yackity-shmackity, praise Jesus, f^^^ you, burn in Hell heathen." There, fixed it.
Well, they don't, really. The point of apologetics is not to convince non-believers to believe. It has two purposes. 1) It gives the believers things to say to non-believers so they don't stand there with their mouth open going "Duuuuuuh, I don't know" when asked about their faith and why they have it. The problem is that the apologetic arguments are, to a one, easily refuted if the non-believer has functional reasoning capabilities. Not all non-believers do, but mostly, it ends up that the believers look bad when they parrot the lines they're told to say. But more importantly, 2) It gives the believer something they can say to themselves when they find themselves doubting, so they don't leave the faith and therefore derail the gravy train for the church. Fact of the matter is that Christianity is hemorrhaging. It may be increasing in some areas (like Africa, I believe), but overall it is in decline. I believe all religions are other than Islam and even the growth of that has slowed. (Don't quote me on all of this. I haven't looked up the stats, but I think I remember reading this recently.) So, apologists are working overtime, trying to function as tourniquets, but they're not succeeding very well.
@@memyselfandi4173 Religion thrives in areas of isolation and low education. When people start becoming exposed to a larger world and literate, especially scientifically literate, they find the simple minded reasoning of religion to be inadequate and quite often easily refuted with even a basic education.
I found it funny how none of them were "I considered the evidence & it made the most sense." That's Wallace's whole selling point (even though he's clearly lying, but whatever), & it didn't even make it on his list. You'd think that would worry him instead of having him pat them on the back.
At our Pride Celebration today I proudly wore my Satan Loves Me rainbow unicorn shirt. Then I stood in front of the christians protesting. The police kept them them from yelling and so we blocked their view so their signs couldn't be seen and held signs asking that everyone ignore them, which everyone did. I could have sold 1000 of my shirts. Next year I'll be ready. 🤗🤗🤗
That guy talking about looking at yourself to find God. Dude, I've been analyzing myself for awhile now, trying to better myself. All that I've found is that it's within my own power to do so. No god, nothing, just me.
That 30 second clip of Frank Turek was one of the most painful 30 seconds I believe I have experienced in a so far long life. It seemed to go on forever while still only lasting 30 seconds. A miracle, I suppose
I know that because I used to be 😂😂 But at the same time, he was the most respectful of the theists in this video (probably because nonreligious spiritual people are more respectful to other believes than religious people, that’s also a trait, I used to have, but anyhoo)
Love the Ray Comfort clip of him chanting "Vanity" while his God is running his own Vanity project with "Believe in me and love me, or else ...." threat.
I am glad you included Greg Locke and of course Ray Comfort - when it comes to people who say stupid things he must be near the top of anyones list. If you included all the other thiests who spew forth utter nonsense it would be a VERY long video.
Even as an agnostic, I’m not even mad at the fellow British guy, if all the other theists this video gave arguments as friendly, as respectable, and as chill then I would be a little bit more of a theist. I say it loud and proud as an agnostic humanist. I RESPECT THIS MAN! The reason we have not reached secular-based world peace by now is because, unlike this guy, theists in the US (and most other British theists) focus on forcing their beliefs, bullying people who believe different, and being jerks. If I do ever start to believe in God, my role model will be this man 🤗
04:35 - Ray Discomfort is right, we won't be sitting on a cloud playing a rusty harp. I believe the preferred musical instrument of heaven is the rusty trombone.
I bet if Ray Comfort read a book that was written a year ago titled "Everything in this book is true" and a sentence said the earth will be destroyed tomorrow, he'd immediately seek a bomb shelter
8:22 - "There wasn't a careful historical fictional writing in the 1st Century..." Bro, allow me to introduce to you the Epic Of Gilgamesh (~3000 BCE) and The Iliad and the Odyssey (~725 to 675 BCE).
I have actually met the baby Jesus. I a had Portuguese client in my job. His wife was waiting in reception with her baby in a pram. I politely asked ‘oh what’s his name?’. She replied’Jesus’.
That last one might actually be the dumbest thing I've ever heard, and I've suffered through the Matt Powell highlight reel.... Atheist are atheists because they're incapable of being self-aware or introspective? Quite the opposite. My introspection is why I'm incapable of lying to myself in exchange for the warm-fuzzies of believing there's an invisible sky-daddy that thinks I'm special. And he still didn't even lonk it yo a gawd? Then wtf was even the point?!
@@TheSkepTick somebody collected the absolute dumbest stuff Matt has said. The truly, stupendously, brain dead stupid crap. Maybe Viced Rhino. I know he's used it. At least part of it was in his recent Matty P response from Friday.
May I suggest that my fellow Brit at the end of this video read a few books written by neuroscientists explaining the most complex organ on this planet, the human brain. It may make his brain hurt but well worth the effort.
Having noticed that people laugh at him for using the banana (an artificially produced cultivar) as an example of divine design, he now pretends he meant it as a joke all along.
So if people back in the day couldn't imagine something up, does that mean Aphrodite is real? Score! She's not interested in hardening your heart. She has other things in mind.
@@daydays12 I just cannot understand why these big names like Kenneth Copelan, Pat Robertson, Joel Osteen ad Billy Graham to name a very few are so rich when there is so much poverty in the US. Their book says that Jesus said to sell all your possessions but these conmen grab all the money they can off people who cannot afford it. Why can't people see through these scams?
right... i bet i could be a sorcerer so quick if i had a 1-way time machine and a bic lighter.... OOOOooooOOO i have a sparkler get back or ill CURSE YOUR FAMILY LINE FOR 6 GENERATIONS!!!! MUHAHAHAHAHA Bow down to the great Justin Case master of the elements!
I love it when Theists think that "look how perfect nature is" is a good argument. I HATE nature, so did god make me imperfect and thus isn't perfect, or is the nature thing a bad argument to begin with? If the answer is I'm imperfect and therefor so is god, then they need to redefine this god character.
They say stupid things because they believe stupid things.
...because they are stupid.
Garbage in-garage out
Ya like an explosion from nothing made of nothing thar creates everything right haha how silly. What was there? Nothing. What cause it? Nothing. Where was it? Nowhere. If your kids answered you that way thed be in trouble What are you talking about? How silly nothing from nowhere is your God! Your religion is unbelief and morals are arbitrary personal ideas.
"Does where you grow up dictate which is the correct god?" More than anything else, yes, yes it does
I always wondered about that - if their god is everything everywhere all at once, then why do they need missionaries?
@@pigpuke Ha! Astute! I will not steal that and claim it as my own, but it will make for an effective conversation ender. 😄
What's really amazing is that people( Christians) that have NDE's and see Jesus, usually see him as the same ethnicity as they are and speaks the same language! That sure is considerate of Jesus the Changeling, eh?
@@pigpuke "then why do they need missionaries?"
For part of the tax write-off.
@@RichWoods23That leads to another question - What does God need with a starship?
I've never heard of someone becoming less of a jerk because they became a christian. At most, they just become a different kind of jerk.
I was about to add something almost identical. You nailed it.
more like a jerk with an excuse to be a jerk
same can be said about atheists. In fact, if atheism is true there is no reason not be a jerk. It doesn't matter.
@@Justas399Now that is a familiar argument
@@Justas399there’s always a reason not to be a jerk, and it’s got nothing to do with whatever spook you believe in.
Proof 1: “I’m right.”
Proof 2: “Shut up.”
Proof 3: “You’re going to Hell.”
Proof 4: Sh’t on chessboard and claim victory.
That is how I win all my chess games
*eyes the shape of the bishop piece suspiciously
i fucking HATE when they do that... it's bullying, and they know it... so much for religion making you a better person.
(still recovering from my irrational fear of hell as it has been conditioned into my being through indoctrination, a form of child abuse)
@@zhou_seithey will never view it as bullying. As a kid I stated I didn't believe in middle of religion class. Teacher and students gasped and the teacher called over the intercom. Next thing I know I was surrounded by 4 adults in the hallway. They yelled at me and threatened me with hell. I'm still not a believer but it had determinetal effects. Of course they will never accept the fact they did damage.
LMAO
At Sunday school, I asked the minister how could babies sin. He said” they are born with it”.
That was the last time I ever went.
Original sin is a central tenet of Christianity. If there's no original sin, humans aren't inherently evil, so we don't deserve eternal punishment and therefore don't need a savour to deliver us from it. The clergy have to convince people they're sick so they can peddle Jesus as the only cure.
@@wizardsuth Well explained,thanks.
Well done you!
It sounds like apologists haven’t improved their arguments since Thomas Aquinas. Fittingly, they haven’t evolved.
I actually took a Philosophy of Religion university course, and Aquinas was one of the first things we covered. Mind you, the course was not meant to be an affirmation of any sort of religious philosophy, just that it explores what the philosophies are observed to be.
The one from Aquinas that bugged me the most (not that anything else that Aquinas said or argued did not bug me - it all did) was how supposedly God is everywhere and evil only exists where God is absent.
Wait, so God is everywhere and yet there are places where he is not and therefore are evil? Cue me putting on my best Igor face from Young Frankenstein as I say, "Well then he's not everywhere, is he? Some all-powerful omnipresent God you blindly worship then."
Their arguments don't believe in evolution.
I have been trying to cast out a demon for the last 12 years. But no matter how hard I try my mother in law will not leave.
Keep trying, one day an all loving God will embrace her in his loving arms.
@@weemac4645taking one for the team. A broken clock is still correct twice a day.
I lucked out. Mine died! And luckily, only after two years of her living with us!
@@weemac4645, Now prove God.
None of these beats the old standard "You're only an atheist because you hate God."
_Um, how can I hate something that doesn't exist_ ?
I was told I was mad at god. I asked how can I be mad at someone who doesn’t exist? How exactly would that work?
I hate Voldemort and that stupid king from Game of Thrones, but I know that they're just invented asshole characters in fictional stories...
Seriously, I've always disliked that response to the "atheists hate god" thing. _Of course_ I can hate something that I don't believe exists. What aggravates me far more about that bullshit is that they claim to know better than me what's going on in my head. It's exactly the same arrogant bullshit as "all atheists actually do know full well that there is a god" - so if I shoul ever engage with such an arrogant asshole, my response would be more along the lines of "You actually know full well that this god doesn't exist, so why are you lying about your own beliefs?" It won't make any difference, but with someone _that_ arrogant and close-minded, it would take ages or some _very_ lucky coincidence to get through their "armor of god" anyway.
It's easy actually. I hate lots of things that don't exist. Bad people or gods in stories that do horrible things in those stories. The thing is that my hating it is not a reason for not believing. I hate cancer. That exists and it hasn't gone away despite my deep hatred for it and it serves me well to believe that it exists. It allows me to adjust my behaviour to actually (help) change things. For one, understanding something brings comfort, so I can use that to help comfort other people as well and make them feel supported and more in charge of being able to choose how a sickness will be treated and experienced.
I tried that with god but thought policing and condemning myself didn't help resolve the causes for my fears and angers; learning more and having a way to check if the information I have is correct did though. As it turns out, you're not your thoughts and you can just check if they're even justified or made up or anything in between or beyond and then decide whether to act on it or not and how, and again, the best thing about it is that it works better when doing it with other people.
Cooperation works! God beliefs are intrinsically abusive.
I hate fictional characters, but it's the believers in these fictional arseholes who are the real problem.
@@stylis666 wait.. are you saying, the outcome of a decision is directly proportional to the accuracy of the information used in making the decision?
Good accurate information leading to better outcomes??
Astonishing 😉
It never ceases to amaze me that the watchmaker argument is basically comparing designed things to non-designed things like rocks and trees etc, to say these non-designed things have to have a designer.
But each and every snowflake is hand crafted by Jesus! The Holy Spirit would help out but he hasn’t got any hands.
@@sansabark jesus is so busy with snowflakes that he can't help all the children, it makes sense now xD
still looking for that demonstrably designed universe with which we can compare ours to take notes
Atoms are fine-tuned as is all the universe.
"Atoms are fine-tuned as is all the universe."
citation needed@@Justas399
Solomon may have had power, wealth, pleasure, and 1000 wives, may have said, "All is vanity", but notice he never gave any of it up
nice one
"I met Jesus". Knew a woman in college who was highly religious. She could not make a sentence without mentioning Jesus, God or praising them. So one day I get a phone call from her and she is all excited, just keeps rattling on. When she calmed down it went like this:
Her: " I just met Jesus in the flesh."
Me: " How you you know he is Jesus?"
Her: " He came and sat across the table from me."
Me: " But how do you know he is Jesus?"
Her: " We talked and he had long hair."
Me: " That does not mean he was Jesus."
Her: " As we talked, looking each other in the eyes, his brown eyes turned to a sky blue. It is Jesus!!"
Me: " Where are you?"
Her: " I'm up at Saint Joseph Hospital in the psych ward."
Me: " Why are you there?"
Her: " I was not feeling very well so I checked myself in."
So there you have it. If you are looking for Jesus, you will find him in the psych ward at Saint Joseph Hospital in Fort Wayne, Indiana.
Well seems she was actually seeing him and it wasn't a metaphor.
@@tatiana4050, Thanks for proving how the religious will fall for anything when it comes to their religion.
@@samuelschick8813 no I mean. She was hallucinating. So she wasn't lying, and someone should have taken her seriously and gotten her help
@@tatiana4050, In case you missed it. She was already in the whack shack ward of the hospital.
"She was hallucinating". No she was just one of those extremely religious people. Safe to say I know/knew her better than you.
This reminds me so much of a time when I was a Christian and had just finished reading the Bible one day, and I felt like I was “filled with the spirit” so I started walking down the hall and past a painting of white Jesus we had in our house with blue eyes. I thought his eyes turned black and sparkled, and I interpreted this as Jesus approving my Bible reading. Now I know I was just hallucinating because of my beliefs lol.
When they worship someone who drowned everyone and claim that he is so “All loving”.
Don't bring facts or common sense into a discussion about God,you're likely to upset christians. 🎉.
World wide flood that only effected a small part of the middle east/northern Africa... seems like a the fish was THIIIS big situation....
It's you not understanding, it makes total sense. He is ALL loving, so he loves also murder and genocide.
My experience with people who think they became less of a jerk after they met Jesus is that they are just as much of a jerk as before, only that now they are convinced that their jerkdom is justified and therefore somehow makes them not jerks.
Reminds me of a kind gentleman at a social coffee thing for poor sobs like me. "Hi." Ey. "Do you believe in Jesus?" O_o I'm Setekh, and you are? " John, hi, do you believe in Jesus?" Nope, coffee? "No thanks. You have to believe in something." I do, that's why I'm here with these wonderful people who prove their kindness with everything they say and do.
He complained that we were a bunch of jerks, left, and he never came back. 😂
Maybe now he is a soda jerk.
Me that's me. Getting into road rage fights short tempered ready to leave my wife. You say anything wrong to me and I would go off. Because of Jesus I get angry but I calm down I remembered his words. This lady at the store said she would be passed I said how can I act that way and wear a Jesus shirt I caint so I'm calm than you Jesus. I was ready to stab someone cause they touched me aggressively years ago thank you Jesus I'm not like that anymore!! I get angry and remembered that's not what Jesus taught let it go give it to God. A man touched his pants and made my daughter pizza I was ready to fight him in the pizza hut cause he didn't say sorry God has brought me a long way people think I'm chill now if they only knew me younger they'd see how much Jesus has truly changed my life I don't live angry anymore and I let it go as best I can because he has everything!!! My main Goal is to not be selfish in anything.
“The man in the sky is the reason we’re here” 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
We Humans will believe anything
It's difficult to take someone talking about Thomas Aquinas seriously when he doesn't even know how to pronounce the name. Apparently he's never attended a philosophy class.
Who's Thomas Aquinass? Also,why does he an Aquin in his ass?
I'm not superstitious, but I am a little stitious.
ministitious?
🤣
The last place I worked told me I was super fluous .
I'm not superstitious because it brings bad luck.
Substitious?
All these cultists are so creepy.
too right...the 'Nike' guy seemed disturbed and very confused.
@@daydays12 👍🏻
You thought so too? Thanks.@@dogwalker666
I feel so bad for those "exorcised" kids
That was horrible.. It is child abuse and the abusers should be in prison
@@daydays12 Well, prison is too far I'd say. But they should definitely get community service and parenting classes.
Child abuse can, and often does, ruin a child's life for ever. I have known some adults who still visit psychologists and are traumatised decades after the abuse....'These torturers, I would call them, cause so much suffering and mostly get away with it@@tristanmisja
8:31 Alright, I guess Atlantis is real and the Odyssey really happened.
Yes. I was going to say The Iliad, but you made the point already. 😊
@@autonomouscollective2599 i wasn't sure how to spell Illiad, so I left it out xD
That one guy is denser than a neutron star if he really believes people never wrote fictional stories back then. Does that guy think all the different god stories were true then? I would guess not. The Epic of Gilgamesh alone dates ways before the Bible!
Of course, 13th century Thomas Aquinas quotes were bound to be based upon what was understood in the 13th century. I have reasons to suspect that the knowledge base has changed since then.
Gosh, you mean that people learn and expand their understanding? What a radical concept - to those that base their belief on a 1500 year old book which is the infallible word of god.
@@Fredthefat It's a revolutionary concept 🤣
@@clemstevensonthe funniest bit is that the fourth way, if the way they described it was what he said, is flat out plagiarism as there’s an Ancient Greek philosopher (I forget who) who said those things already. It’s one of the famous ones.
@@KurenaiNanashi Aquinas was borrowing from Aristotle...and he cited his source, so not plagiarism. He was assembling arguments missionaries could use into a single book..."Summa Contra Gentiles" was not meant to be original thought.
The arguments themselves only work within the limited knowledge base available to Aquinas at the time...and even in his time they were challenged.
@@njhoepner I mean even if you cite them, if you then label the argument as one of your “Five ways” then it could be considered plagiarism.
It’s simply amazing how Christian’s so readily accept mere claims as evidence. I suspect that if I wrote a book that stated that they had done some horrendous deed that they would immediately demand more proof than a written statement claiming that it was so. It’s a mind boggling double standard that only goes to prove the gullibility of the believers.
You need to be lacking common sense to believe in Christian teachings,it's pure nonsense.I'm attacking Christianity because its the only religeon I was subjected too. 🎉.
And worse than that, the standards for evidence in real life events aren't consistent either.
Respected community member: innocent and truthful despite evidence against it.
Gay person: lying groomer by default and at the very least demonic and generally infectious and a bad example to people.
Atheist: two faced liars with a wishy washy basis for morality; can't be trusted.
I'm so happy that I'm free of such dogma's and I can just trust people who demonstrate reliability instead, despite knowing we're probably wrong about most things we say. Sincere people ar least care if they're wrong because it impacts not just their life but everyone else's as well.
For example: I told my brother he had his pants on backwards. It made him look and I laughed at him for being so gullible :p I know him well, his first response isn't to think it's bullshit but to wonder HOWWww?!?! So he automatically looks for more information. Which is a good thing so I acknowledge and encourage it with a joke. Truth always matters, even when you're making shit up.
thats why it relies on childhood indoctrination. without childhood indoctrination, christianity would have gone extinct ages ago@@weemac4645
"The only white guy in Israel."🤣🤣
If heaven is full of THEIR SORT, then hell is a much better destination.
Jay, try to imagine spending eternity with these dudes, that's worse than hell.
@@MrCanis4
Yup!
Tbh, the English guy sounds the most manipulative...manipulative waffle 🤣
Waffle with a word salad.
@@romazone101 Yum 🤢
"People couldn't make stuff up back then." Gosh, to think of all that time I spent studying the Odyssey and Iliad was just wasted.
I don’t think I can imagine a worse hell than being within at least 10 metres of Ray Comfort at any given time.
Two comments from Ambrose "Bitter" Bierce (The Devil's Dictionary). 1 -Life is something we are in daily apprehension of losing, but once lost is never missed. 2 -Mythology is the body of a primitive people's origins, early history, heroes, deities, and so forth, as distinguished from the true accounts which it invents later.
Bierce, my idol. Ironically, I was introduced to his Devil's Dictionary by reading a mention of it in the Worldwide Church of God's publication, The Plain Truth. I was intrigued that Bierce had written a book with such a title and tracked down a copy
My method of avoiding demons is by staying away from churches.
When Jesus said at the Eucharest to the Apostles, "Do this in remembrance of me," was he really saying, "Eat me?"
Eat my butt acolytes you too apostles... love it
no ancient greek would be healed and think "ah, zeus has blessed me this day", zeus basically doesn't bless anyone
That last dude was the epitome of word salad.
Some of his reasoning made sense, but it just wasn't grounded in reality so has no value beyond demonstrating the flaws of his belief. His claim about his awareness being peaceful made me think he needed to be shoved out of a high window just to demonstrate what the rush of adrenaline would do to his peace of mind, but that would be an unnecessarily extreme method of making a point. Anyway, he was clearly trying to avoid using the words 'soul' or 'consciousness' because he knows the first would get him laughed at after he made so much of science being the right way to investigate things and the second would completely undermine his argument.
With a pretty face like that, it doesn't matter that the number of cells rattling around up there is inversely proportional to the number of words coming out of his cakehole.
He seems to have had very little contact with life. Soft living with no pain or difficulty...@@RichWoods23
I love the comment at the beginning, "Why did evolution stop?"
Well, it didn't. ROFL
How did evolution or abiogenies create the first cell? It didn't.
@@Justas399Troll can’t even spell the word, and also doesn’t understand its meaning.
@@alamunez ditto
@@Justas399
Abiogenesis created the first life. Evolution only takes affect after life exists. Numpty.
@@Justas399
It’s spelled “abiogenesis” BTW. What proof do you have that it didn’t? Also, even if that were the case, that still does nothing in terms of proving a god(s) existence.
Oh, powers... that kid at the end. That's a guy who contemplated his own self-awareness and was terrified by, well, everything and who had to go run to the easiest theological comfort blanket he could find.
Oh, hey... is there Lisa the Rainbow Giraffe (Leaf be upon her) plushie?
I'd almost certainly want one! (well, depending on price, quality, and manufacturing circumstances 😄)
How does "discovering your awareness" = a God? What a maroon.
agreed 1100%
Theists say stupid things? Next you're gonna tell me the sky is blue...
The guy who kept pronouncing it ACKwaniss had me rolling.
I've never seen a God that goes sooooo much out of his way to make sure he is not seen by all ! 🤣
You gotta appreciate how Ray Touch My Banana Comfort breezes on right by Solomon's 1,000 wives. I thought it was one man, one woman, Ray. Or maybe that's only if bananas are in season.....
_I don't have_
_A very good reason_
_Since I've been with him_
_Cuckoo-nuts have been in season_
-- from _Man of La Mancha_
If the food was going to fall on the floor due to him being a spirit, he wouldn't have been able to pick the food up?
"I'm not my thoughts or feelings but my awareness is happy". That doesn't make sense on it's own. Pretty sure "happy" is a feeling.
so thinking is not being aware? the guy is so confused Happy is a feeling
The Greeks were definitely writing plays in 500 BC.
Websters dictionary definition of silly; obtuse coupled with smug complacency.
If I were promoting an entire world view based on the ideas of Thomas Aquinas, I would first check how to pronounce his name. 😂
2:03 As a former Nichiren Buddhist I also had faith experiences that I believed that overcoming obstacles, and having good fortune were related to my Buddhist practice. In time I realized that I was just seeing things differently. If something good happened, it was because of good fortune from my Buddhist practice. If something bad happened it was an obstacle that I could challenge with my Buddhist practice. I have since deconverted and still see good and bad things happen in my life. I now just appreciate the good things, and learn to accept the bad.
Life, no magical thinking needed.
Indeed. It may suck if it happens to be that more bad happens than good, but ascribing it to any religious belief is not an actual answer as to why, let alone a guide to any sort of solution to the real and/or perceived problem(s).
Perhaps the most reliable answer to why is, to me at least (and pardon me if I sound crass), "Sh^t happens, sh^t will likely and perhaps undoubtedly continue to happen, and you can either accept the sh^t as good or at least contribute in any number of ways to try to reduce the sh^t. Take your pick, but only one of these choices actually strives to get rid of the sh^t."
Religion might, MIGHT serve as an okay (at best) introduction to morality, but it is hardly the best case for it. I can grant that the more atheistic religions do not fall into _all_ of the same pitfalls as the thestic ones do, but they still ultimately fall into enough of them. It is like the difference between a POS and a particularly fetid POS: one might be comparatively more pleasant to smell than the other, but both still stink and need to be disposed of.
Sorry if I sounded rather crass, but 30 years of living in the southern US and amongst the bad stereotypes you likely heard about the region will leave plenty of scars.
All that the atheist can say is that stuff happens. Its all atoms in motion anyway.
@@Justas399 And yet unlike with anything theists say, atheists can do what theists can never do: actually show the atoms in motion, along with the results can come from atoms being in motion. And last I checked, Oppenheimer quite boldly demonstrated what one of those results of certain atoms in motion is.
@@DavidRichardson153 atheism has nothing to do with science. In fact, it was Christians who invented the scientific method and were the early scientists.
“To be fair, the claim that Christianity led to modern science captures something true and important. Generations of historians and sociologists have discovered many ways in which Christians, Christian beliefs, and Christian institutions played crucial roles in fashioning the tenets, methods and institutions of what in time became modern science…today almost all historians agree that Christianity (Catholicism as well as Protestantism) moved early-modern intellectuals to study nature systematically.”
Noah J Efron “Myth 9: That Christianity Gave Birth to Modern Science” in Galileo Goes to Jail and Other Myths About Science and Religion (R Numbers ed.) Harvard University Press 2009 p
That last one wasn't just word salad, it was the whole damn buffet!😂
Least favorite? The guy who droned on in monotone about Aquinas.
you saved the worst for the last , I think I'll have to seat down my head is spinning .
I so agree with you. He was the worst of the worst
"We call that God," tells you everything you need to know about the Prime Mover argument.
"There wasn't a careful historical fictional writing in the 1st century".... yeah, they weren't careful. The stories are crazy, and all over place they needed an editor and they are called 'myths' now.
Epic of gilgamesh, story of icarus, the adventures of other mythological figures, and so and so forth. That statement is just an admission of "i don't know about myths" whether that lack of knowledge is by ignorance is up for debate.
Also some of the stories were set in the modern day when they were told 2000 yrs ago, just like spider-man is in the modern day of whenever a story is told now.
By their logic The Odyssey was completely factual and the Greek deities are real
@@KurenaiNanashi just a small google search could have kept him from sounding ridiculous...
The bible had a huge number of editors in the 3rd century AD, namely the Nicean Councils. They tried to turn a bunch of inconsistent stories into some kind of coherent narrative, with questionable success.
@@wizardsuth The greek myths could have used the editor... and the bible needed better editors like seriously do we 2 creation stories.
Ah, Ray. Your reason for believing is as shallow as they come: I don't want to die!
Ray. You think because people are not shit scared of Hell that they are superficial. Your understanding of human psychology is superficial. You have the moral sophistication of a six year old. They parent knows all. The parent is always right. Rules is rules because the parent says so.
They know their faith is dying in numbers so they are getting more power hungry and desperate.
Religeon is losing its power due to not being able to brainwash school children at an early age,as was done in the past.
much like the current corporate system in the 'modern countries'
Yes, they say very stupid things, and then they try to quote to you many different versions of Romans 1:20. But when they try that with me, it is like shields up.
Romans often has that effect on me. I hate it when people try to tell me what I believe.
The best response is to reverse it: " _No Christian (or Muslim, etc) REALLY believes there is a God, they just keep saying it to convince themselves it is true_ "
They will inevitably respond they DO know what they believe and you reply " _And so do I_ "
@@condorboss3339 I truelly believe that ALL POPES know Christian teachings are nonsense.They must know in their own mind that they are not any closer to a God than any other believer in chinese whispers.
Romans 1:20 always reminds me of that folklore tale..."The Emperor's New Clothes" in that only a fool could not see the emperor's invisible (non existent) clothing. Yet, if you are not a fool but a wise person, the invisible (non existent) clothes can be clearly seen.
the one that stuck out was "why did evolution stop?"
The UTTER stupidity!!!
Soften your heart = try to be more gullible.
To be an atheist you must be gullible.
"The bible is true because the bible says so" will never get old
"Why do you want to sin?"
Edit: what else?
Or rather, it will never get new. It was old first time it was said... and still is 😅
And because you say so, lol. Talk about hypocrisy!
The Hobbit also says The Hobbit is true.
@@evilbob840 What? Do you mean it isn't?
Yes they do!
Usually I respond with "You are stupid"
"as a former atheist"... Sure
"as a former atheist". was ./is so disingenuous!
I now believe in the omniscience of the omnipotent omnipresent British Floating Circle. I converted from the First Pastafarian Church of the Flying Spaghetti Monster.
9:24 If there actually was archeological evidence to back up the stories and figures in the New Testament he might be onto something. Independent corroboration is valuable. However what little archeological corroboration exists is only of a few places. So we're still stuck with the Spiderman problem.
Even if every location and person were falsifiable it still wouldn't bring you any closer to the NT supernatural claims. The is no such power in archaeology. If this were true, we could make a much better case for Zeus.
I'm a proud Atheist Antinatalist Animal Rights Vegan (AAARV)
as are all my friends and family. And most of them and I are certain aliens do visit Earth,
sometimes abduct people. Religiontards should be ASHAMED
to openly admit they believe in "gods" or "demons" or "Satan" or "angels".
Antivaxxers and other antiscientists should be ASHAMED to openly admit
they believe in antivaxx conspiracies. Climate deniers should be ASHAMED
to openly admit they think "earth is flat" and "AGW isn't real".
That's as stupid as believing "gravity isn't real" or "9/11 never happened".
Aliens are just other species with advanced technology.
They have their own history of evolution both biological and technological.
There IS NO "stigma" attached reporting the truth, ANY truth, whether UFOs or whatever one directly observes.
There exist ONLY RIGHTWING ASSHOLES who hypocritically ridicule & attack
without ever addressing evidence because they put their own stupid ideology
of maintaining the status quo at all costs above truth & evidence,
who are personally responsible for how they treat or act towards UFO witnesses.
NOBODY else's fault. NOT "culture's" fault. NOT "society's" fault.
Las Vegas family claims to see aliens after several report something falling from sky
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'100% they're not human,' Witness details alleged alien encounter in Las Vegas
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Regarding the last irritant on the video; I have a number of emotional problems, that plagued me my whole life. A few years ago, I lost my wife- my best friend, of 25 years, and it was the second worst thing that ever happened to me. How did I deal with it? The same way I dealt with the third worst thing (prostate cancer). I am not special. Everybody on this planet dies. Everything dies. I will die. One should live whilst one can. There is beauty, laughter, joy, and love for my children and grand children, among many, many other things (your list may vary). Did I meditate or pray to a god? Of course not. Who would need that? The only speck of pride I retain is that I have no need of a sky father or earth mother to coddle me. I accept life as it is, and that is, to me, the most reliable way to approach life. I don't need his god, nor that god's promises, admonitions, dictates, nor his heaven. No thanks.
The most telling thing about the three most common reasons, is a reason that is conspicuously missing. "I became a Christian because a Christian apologist said I should." Good reason for that. It doesn't happen. So why, if being raised a Christian or having some experience that compelled you to be a Christian, would you expect others to become a Christian simply because some apologist says you should? 🤔
"You need to experience it yourself, for God will blah blah blah yackity-shmackity."
Did I misquote the apologist excuse to your observation? Oh wait, yeah, I nearly forgot:
"...yackity-shmackity, praise Jesus, f^^^ you, burn in Hell heathen."
There, fixed it.
I think the reality is that the majority of apologists are only preaching to their own kind in an attempt to keep them in the game.
Well, they don't, really. The point of apologetics is not to convince non-believers to believe. It has two purposes. 1) It gives the believers things to say to non-believers so they don't stand there with their mouth open going "Duuuuuuh, I don't know" when asked about their faith and why they have it. The problem is that the apologetic arguments are, to a one, easily refuted if the non-believer has functional reasoning capabilities. Not all non-believers do, but mostly, it ends up that the believers look bad when they parrot the lines they're told to say. But more importantly, 2) It gives the believer something they can say to themselves when they find themselves doubting, so they don't leave the faith and therefore derail the gravy train for the church.
Fact of the matter is that Christianity is hemorrhaging. It may be increasing in some areas (like Africa, I believe), but overall it is in decline. I believe all religions are other than Islam and even the growth of that has slowed. (Don't quote me on all of this. I haven't looked up the stats, but I think I remember reading this recently.) So, apologists are working overtime, trying to function as tourniquets, but they're not succeeding very well.
@@memyselfandi4173 Religion thrives in areas of isolation and low education. When people start becoming exposed to a larger world and literate, especially scientifically literate, they find the simple minded reasoning of religion to be inadequate and quite often easily refuted with even a basic education.
I found it funny how none of them were "I considered the evidence & it made the most sense." That's Wallace's whole selling point (even though he's clearly lying, but whatever), & it didn't even make it on his list. You'd think that would worry him instead of having him pat them on the back.
At our Pride Celebration today I proudly wore my Satan Loves Me rainbow unicorn shirt. Then I stood in front of the christians protesting. The police kept them them from yelling and so we blocked their view so their signs couldn't be seen and held signs asking that everyone ignore them, which everyone did. I could have sold 1000 of my shirts. Next year I'll be ready. 🤗🤗🤗
I notice that Lisa is a rather scatological god.
That guy talking about looking at yourself to find God. Dude, I've been analyzing myself for awhile now, trying to better myself. All that I've found is that it's within my own power to do so. No god, nothing, just me.
If anyone looks long enough,then they can convince themselves that they have found what they wanted to find all along.
Indeed
yes@@weemac4645
That 30 second clip of Frank Turek was one of the most painful 30 seconds I believe I have experienced in a so far long life. It seemed to go on forever while still only lasting 30 seconds. A miracle, I suppose
It's a Festivus MIracle!
Just say the kid pushing the toy car is god, and stop there.
If their were no God,God would create one.
Why aren't we still climbing out of the ocean? 😂😂😂
Laugh now to cry later godless alone person??? We need to get rid of those idiots, soon as possible.
If we climbed out of the ocean why is there still an ocean? 😅
I think it's the Flying Spaghetti Monster...
That last guy sounded very New Age 😆
I know that because I used to be 😂😂
But at the same time, he was the most respectful of the theists in this video (probably because nonreligious spiritual people are more respectful to other believes than religious people, that’s also a trait, I used to have, but anyhoo)
Love the Ray Comfort clip of him chanting "Vanity" while his God is running his own Vanity project with "Believe in me and love me, or else ...." threat.
these apologists must be just creating more atheists than anybody else
Hmm you know, like the wind moved the domino.
Ahhh... BUT who made the... screw it!
"why are you Christian?" funny how no one seems to say "apologists".
I am glad you included Greg Locke and of course Ray Comfort - when it comes to people who say stupid things he must be near the top of anyones list. If you included all the other thiests who spew forth utter nonsense it would be a VERY long video.
That Nike shirt guy had me thinking about that Wiggles song... 'Word Salad"... 😁
Jey, he's really NIKE isn't he?
a very wordy word salad indeed painful to listen to
Yes i agree, gob was the first pusher. In the words of Steppenwolf... god damn the pusher man !
As I understand it, people become jerks *AFTER* they meet Jesus
Nah… jerks are jerks. They are unlikely to change much after puberty. They just do a different set of jerky things after "meeting Jesus".
I use their book against them.
Even as an agnostic, I’m not even mad at the fellow British guy, if all the other theists this video gave arguments as friendly, as respectable, and as chill then I would be a little bit more of a theist. I say it loud and proud as an agnostic humanist. I RESPECT THIS MAN!
The reason we have not reached secular-based world peace by now is because, unlike this guy, theists in the US (and most other British theists) focus on forcing their beliefs, bullying people who believe different, and being jerks.
If I do ever start to believe in God, my role model will be this man 🤗
04:35 - Ray Discomfort is right, we won't be sitting on a cloud playing a rusty harp. I believe the preferred musical instrument of heaven is the rusty trombone.
I bet if Ray Comfort read a book that was written a year ago titled "Everything in this book is true" and a sentence said the earth will be destroyed tomorrow, he'd immediately seek a bomb shelter
Theists accuse us of having “hardened our hearts.”when the fact of the matter, proven by this video, is most theists have hardened their heads.
I like this kind of video. It's truly entertaining 😂
Thanks Andre!
8:22 - "There wasn't a careful historical fictional writing in the 1st Century..."
Bro, allow me to introduce to you the Epic Of Gilgamesh (~3000 BCE) and The Iliad and the Odyssey (~725 to 675 BCE).
A few days ago a creacrapper asked in a thread about entropy:
Do you decorate your garden with rocks from Mars since the Earth is an open system?
Congrats on sneaking in a little Conformal Cyclical Cosmology!
I have actually met the baby Jesus. I a had Portuguese client in my job. His wife was waiting in reception with her baby in a pram. I politely asked ‘oh what’s his name?’. She replied’Jesus’.
The 'Nike' guy is so so confused and un interesting to listen to. My word!!
Finally got a sponsor.
"There was no fiction in the first century!" Uh, The Epic of Gilgamesh? The Odyssey and the Iliad?
That last one might actually be the dumbest thing I've ever heard, and I've suffered through the Matt Powell highlight reel....
Atheist are atheists because they're incapable of being self-aware or introspective? Quite the opposite. My introspection is why I'm incapable of lying to myself in exchange for the warm-fuzzies of believing there's an invisible sky-daddy that thinks I'm special. And he still didn't even lonk it yo a gawd? Then wtf was even the point?!
Ah, the warm-fuzzies of make believe. I agree he was insufferable.
So, maybe he was home schooled? Someone may have purposefully left out Psychology, the indoctrination defense.
There’s a highlight reel?
@@TheSkepTick somebody collected the absolute dumbest stuff Matt has said. The truly, stupendously, brain dead stupid crap. Maybe Viced Rhino. I know he's used it. At least part of it was in his recent Matty P response from Friday.
Yeah it was Viced Rhino
May I suggest that my fellow Brit at the end of this video read a few books written by neuroscientists explaining the most complex organ on this planet, the human brain. It may make his brain hurt but well worth the effort.
I see Ya had Ray Cumfart in this one. He still playin' with bananas? lol 🤣
Having noticed that people laugh at him for using the banana (an artificially produced cultivar) as an example of divine design, he now pretends he meant it as a joke all along.
@@wizardsuth Oh, I know. I ain't new to this rodeo, lol.
So if people back in the day couldn't imagine something up, does that mean Aphrodite is real?
Score!
She's not interested in hardening your heart. She has other things in mind.
I agree these money-grabbing people say the most stupid things!
Great video.
Yes most/all of them are grifters
@@daydays12 I just cannot understand why these big names like Kenneth Copelan, Pat Robertson, Joel Osteen ad Billy Graham to name a very few are so rich when there is so much poverty in the US.
Their book says that Jesus said to sell all your possessions but these conmen grab all the money they can off people who cannot afford it.
Why can't people see through these scams?
An advanced technology might look to some underdeveolped civilisation like magic...
right... i bet i could be a sorcerer so quick if i had a 1-way time machine and a bic lighter.... OOOOooooOOO i have a sparkler get back or ill CURSE YOUR FAMILY LINE FOR 6 GENERATIONS!!!! MUHAHAHAHAHA Bow down to the great Justin Case master of the elements!
I love it when Theists think that "look how perfect nature is" is a good argument. I HATE nature, so did god make me imperfect and thus isn't perfect, or is the nature thing a bad argument to begin with? If the answer is I'm imperfect and therefor so is god, then they need to redefine this god character.
This is my favorite in the playlist. I am watching the whole lot of theist say stupid things and loving them. 🦒
I enjoy these ones too
The Aquinas guy is a great argument for how Christianity brings you joy and happiness 🙄