You could see from a mile away, what was going on bothered him. Even he though Jeffrey was taking this a little too far. Then the moment the opportunity presented itself, he helped her. I’d like to see someone call treason on that or say that they fooled around and both committed high treason. They’d have a conversation with my foot up they behind in no time.
+Robert R yeah, the only reason he didn't in the beginning was because he would have been executed. I hope he and Sansa meet again, he was always so nice to her.
@@rebelpoxy in the world they live in yes absolutely he should have but what he should have done and what he actually does is almost always very different things. the point he was trying to make (aside from enrage Arya) was that you never get very far doing the "right" thing and the show has shown us several times what happens to people doing the "right" thing
@Trent T Stfu..why the name calling? Fucking idiot. Its a show you wouldn't last one min if it was real. You hide and insult people, not very brave of you now is it?
it's easy to have balls when you have/had Jaime as your sword now Bronn and let's not mention Lannister money and oh yesssss you're the kings hand too.
I love how Sansa used to despise/look down upon bastards, peasants, unattractive people, etc., and admire kings, queens, knights, ladies and lords, and other high born. Because eventually all the people she admired end up using and abusing her, and the people she wouldn't have bat an eye for are the only people nice enough to take care of her and protect her (Tyrion, Jon, Brienne, Arya). I guess she learned her lesson the hard way.
I feel like more than any other character Sansa saw the worst of humanity. From the Lannisters to Littlefinger to the Boltons. The girl saw every cruelty imaginable in the time span of three years
"Bronn, the next time Ser Meryn speaks, kill him. That was a threat, see the difference?" Top 5 favorite GoT quotes of all time, I laughed so hard when I first heard this lol
+VloggedByMe HM Probably pissed because he couldn't do anything about it. Notice how quick he was to rip off his Kingsguard cloak when Tyrion asked someone to cover her? I dig the Hound--he's a decent guy deep down.
I love how the hound actually protects the Stark children in little ways throughout the show, they’re so small, but they’re still there. He gave Sansa his cloak, asked after arya, and took care of her
In the books, he was enamored with Sansa. In the books, Cersei was the most beautiful girl in all of westeros. After the witch gave her a prophecy about a more beautiful queen, she thought it was Margaery. However, in the books, Margaery wasn't described being nearly that beautiful. In the books, the most beautiful girl in Westeros is said to be Sansa. So he was in love and enamored with her.
Tommen is the worst one..so easy to brainwash..if joffery still alive,cersie still have her hot hair and once margiery told him to release loras from the sparrows,joffery swipe the whole sparrows like a vaccum cleaner..no more talking about gods
I know Sansa gets a lot of grief, but she really did survive using her wits and keeping her composure...forever among enemies and under duress. The fact she didn't turn into a total savage is a miracle.
"Lady Stark...You may survive us yet." Mark my words, this was perhaps one of the most important prophecies in the whole show. If Sansa is not on the Iron Throne at the end, she'll be ruling Winterfell at the very least. Jon and his revival skills may die. Dany and her dragons may die. Arya and her faces may die. Sansa might be the only one, with no other powers than her brain, who will make it to the end. The funny thing is that it comes from Tyrion, also one of the only characters with no other powers than his brain. Cersei has the Mountain and that creepy wizard. Jamie has huge sword skills (+Bronn). Bran has his visions. I'd love it that Tyrion and Sansa, the two underdogs, actually make it to the end.
I like Sansa too, but that is a bit of an over statement. Tyrion is actually the smartest one in the show. Sansa, up until the trial of littlefinger, has only been a burden to others around her. In the future, I am sure that will change significantly but if there is anyone capable of making it to the end based on strength and wit, it would be Jon, Arya, and Tyrion. Sansa virtually has neither at least for now but she does have will as Rob Stark did and luck. That does count for something.
matariki and here we are and Sansa’s easily the smartest person left to playing the game. She may very well be on the throne when it’s all said and done.
when sansa said I am loyal to joffery my one true love it shows how smart and strong sansa really is. She is able to pretend to be a helpless girl who is madly in love with the king even when he treats her like this. She is probably the only person on this show who can do this I mean if Arya would be in her place shenwould have been long dead
That's a difference type of intelligence. Sansa is a politcian-born but she doesn't have conscience before the death of her father. Arya is a warrior, a general, but maybe not a true politician like Sansa or Tyrion, maybe like more Varys because she knew the common people and their reaction/ need. So yes in King's Landing Sansa is a good actor but not Arya
That's a great point! People praise Arya for being a fierce fighter, but there are more kinds of strength in this world. Sansa portrays a different - inner&smart kind of strength. Strength of the will, the ability to control yourself and behave appropriately in any given situation, masking your true feelings. Sansa truly was strong even back then.
Arya would never be in Sansa's place because she would've killed Joffrey the day he cut the butcher's son--if it weren't for Sansa's silly dreams of marrying a handsome prince.
One moment of kindness, one gesture of gentlemanly grace, and Tyrion showed that his heart is greater than all the adult Lannisters put together, except perhaps Jaime.
Here's a list of things Tyrion did in the books that were not in the show: -ordered the conditional execution of a bunch of blacksmiths if they fail to build a chain -ordered the burning of a district in KL because its position gave them a tactical disadvantage against Stannis' siege -looked at Sansa lustfully and groped her a bunch while she was naked before he decided not to go through with it (she was 13 in the books) -strangled Shae in cold blood (not in self defense, like in the show) because she testified against him -raped a prostitute multiple times, to the point that she cried and fought to resist And that's just what I can remember. I haven't read it since DWD came out (over 10 years ago) He's still a great and likable character in the books. But nowhere near the saint he's portrayed to be in the show.
"I'm punishing her." "For what crimes? She didn't fight his brother's battle you halfwit" "You can't talk to me like that! The king can do as he likes." "The mad king did as he liked... Has your uncle Jamie ever told you what happened to him?" MIC DROP
I agree. He brought a smile to my face when he stood up for Sansa, and then offered a hand to her and helped her up. That brat king had a lot to learn from his uncle.
Sansa doesn't deserve any of this. She never did. Her parents taught her how to be a lady, a queen, and she's been trying to survive. Can't wait for season 5 and I fear for her.
Rosebunse Well, to be honest, her skills as a lady and her courtesies were the only thing (that, and her claim as Lady Stark) that kept her alive and whole at King's Landing. So it's a double-edged sword, really.
Lammy4ever7 True, true. I think most of Sansa's survival came down to the fact that the others at King's Landing didn't really think much of her. For the most part, they ignored her and kept her out of the really dangerous parts. Sucks to be them now.
Well her parents failed to teach lesson 102: how to know, tell/read who your enemies are and not tell them and get your own family and self killed /murdered /assassinated.
This scene has so many great little bits to it: -I enjoy how his crown is cocked forward on his head, it just feels cocky somehow. -Gleeson's acting is top notch, the terrible smirking, the way he delights in Sansa's torment. Truly, I fear he will forever be trapped as Joffrey because his acting is so damn good people can't separate him from the character. -The Hound in this whole scene. He looks away when Sansa's stripped, clearly unhappy with the scene unfolding, but knowing he is in no position to do anything to stop it, until Tyrion barges in and effectively outranks Joffrey. The split second he is given the chance, he rips that cloak right off without a second thought to cover her. He isn't overly gentle about plopping it on her shoulders, but this fits with the character's tone, and also says "I am doing this but I need it to seem like I don't care a lot here or I could get punished later for it". Very subtle character nods. -Joffrey's disgruntled/frustrated face when Tyrion comes in and effectively pulls rank. -Tyrion in this entire damn scene, with the badass, "See the difference?!" line is just so fantastic. -Tyrion insulting Joffrey in front of the court. -Tyrion gently offering his hand and Joffrey's snapping to his feet in outrage that she takes it. -Tyrion asking Sansa if she wants out, and Sansa's monotone declaration of love, with her head held high and proud in spite of the humiliation and terror she just endured, followed by the almost awestruck, "Lady Stark...you may survive us yet." Also just...so good.
Tyrion seemed to deeply admire her which actually would fit more with his book counter part, where he lusted after her even though he knew better. The both of them had such good chemistry a shame that it didn't rekindle for true later on in the show with how it was set up
I think it's funny the only reason tyrion isn't murdered whenever he scolds joff is because he has been smacking joff for so long he's basically used negative reinforcement to condition joff into believing tyrion is in charge. The fucking king who has a massively fragile ego and a hard on for hurting people won't lift a finger to harm his uncle (nor order his kingsguard to kill him publicly). Shit is wild.
People can't separate his acting from his actual nature, because they're fucking idiots. Let's just put that to bed right now. There's a horrifying strain of human running amok in the world with the inability to separate fact from fiction, and these idiots vote.
@@tgmartin I can. Keep in mind that at one point he's plotting to kill his wife and her family just to get them out of the way and gain control of their land. Bronn is a psychopath. He has no empathy or moral inhibitions whatsoever beyond a certain appreciation for those who directly advance his position. But that appreciation only lasts for as long as they're continuing to advance and/or maintain him, or until a better offer comes along. Bronn would absolutely kill and/or beat a young girl if he was instructed to by someone who was paying him. There are some things I don't think he'd do; I don't think he's rape someone, for example. And I don't think he'd kill someone out of simple malice or pleasure. Violence is a utility for him that's used as a tool to get what he wants (which is usually getting paid for doing violent things).
+Michel van der Linden It would have been quite satisfying to watch Bronn butcher the paedo. Ugh creep. When you think about it, he probably got a boner here. Yikes.
For those saying that this "proves" Sansa should have been happy to marry and sleep with Tyrion, you fail to remember the family he comes from. Even though Tyrion is likely the most honorable of the Lannister House, Sansa would still have to endure torment from her in-laws regardless of how well Tyrion treats her. She would still be stuck in King's Landing with Cersei and Joffrey (at least until his death, which she didn't even know would happen). She doesn't need to "be grateful" to marry him. She should be grateful for his actions in this scene, as well as his decision to honor and respect her, but in no way does she have to be grateful to the Lannisters for arranging a marriage that traps her in King's Landing.
Indeed. Plus Cersei and Joffrey were really sweet to her at the beginning but we know how it turned out. Sansa really wanted to appreciate Tyrion's kindness but she never knew if it was genuine or if he was faking it like his sister and nephew. Anyway she was only 14 back then (even 12 in the book) so she was disgusted by the prospect of having sex with a man old enough to be her father. Not to mention she once was to marry one of the Tyrell brothers (Willas in the book, Loras in the show) and therefore had a chance to escape to Highgarden. Then her hopes got destroyed in one go.
Except she saw Joffrey's vicious side ever since she watched him torture Micah and try to kill Arya, but instead, she quickly defended him and blamed Arya. SHe knew exactly what Joffrey was like from that incident alone but she still kept her crush on him, up to when he choped her father's head off. She also witnessed Cersei lying her head off defending Joffrey and requesting her Wolf Lady death. So no, she couldn't use Cersei or Joffrey as reasons for distrusting Tyrion, because both had shown their colors early on but Sansa blatantly ignored all the warning signs. With Tyrion, she all the vibes she got from him was a man who wanted to do his best to protect her. And no, Sansa's not fourteen. She was fourteen or thirteen in season 1 because Jon and Rob was around 17 in season 1, and Arya only 11. But even at 11, Arya showed much more courage and integrity than lying Sansa. It also explains why Arya was Ned's favorite. No wonder more people love Arya, Dany, an Lyanna Mormont more than Sansa. All three acted ten times more brave and not-so naive then stupid Sansa.
@@undrielgrenger53 half the things you said are made up, plus Tyrion is still activly fighting against her family causing her to be trapped in kingslanding, he might treat her good but her is one of the reasons she is stuck there
I always felt it was interesting that, as much as Joffrey threatened Tyrion, he still saw him as someone to respect to a point, in so much as Joffrey could respect anyone. When Tyrion showed up to save Sansa, Joffrey was genuinely intimidated for a second, he was the king, yet looked like a kid caught by an adult doing something sneaky. And when Tyrion said 'The Mad King did as he liked', Joffrey shut up and listened. And it was one of the few times where he shut up and let what he was doing be stopped. And when Tyrion would give him a piece of his mind, he would always threaten, but never follow through. When he would insult Tyrion, it was always like poking with a stick and petty, because he knew Tyrion was smarter, and he respected his council, even as he didn't often follow it.
I feel like Tywin's presence as head of the house also played a role. Tywin thought Tyrion was useful as much as he hated him so he likely wouldn't have allowed Joffrey to engage in kinslaying and Joffrey is shown to be intimidated enough by Tywin.
On theory he's lord of Winterfel for now, since he's married to the "only" alive descendant of Eddard Stark. I just don't think he's eager to take his castle, given it's inches deep into snow and burnt to the ground by that fucker Ramsey Snow
"Killing you would send your brother a message" What message? That you have no prisoners left to trade? That Robb is free to kill Jamie and do anything he was unwilling to do before because of his captured sister?
I don't know if the Starks knew at this point that they didn't have Sansa. I can't quite recall, but I'm almost certain that the Stark's assumed Sansa was still in Lannister custody.
@@nataliagorman3578 He's got to study too, which is a good move. Having nothing but an acting background is not really safe, but a finished college degree certainly is investing in your future.
Chromasus I'm sure earning more than a million per episode will be enough as investing for future.Even a person with a doctorate's degree will take 10yrs to earn what he earns per episode
i've seen this scene many times, and only now i've realized at @1:26 the terror and concern on joffrey's face as soon as he sees tyrion because he knew the party was over and there was nothing he could do, he really felt helpless. Really highlighted the fact that aside from tywin, tyrion was the only one who could put that little shit on his place.
I always got the sense that he understood Tyrion was trying to help him throughout this time, but he just couldn’t deal with his insecurity or control his impulses. Joffrey was always conflicted. He knew his position was weak so he constantly over compensated.
Are there still people who truly believe that Sansa really means the words she says at the end?? About " joffrey, her true love"? Even when tyrion says " lady stark you may survive us yet"? What bias for her character some people have.
@@masterplokoon8803 I was just being rhetorical but thanks for the courtesy. I based that comment because the last bit sounded like bron and nothing to do with this messed up circumstances they're in, and f#!k Joffrey
"Lady Stark, you may survive us yet" Such a powerful quote now in season 8, Sansa was always a survivor, she was brave and smart enough to hide her hate to the Lannisters and survive without fighting with a sword, she was always one of the best players of the game, but no one saw that until last season... I always supported her. The lady of Winterfell 👏👏
I know your comment is a bit old, but I have to reply. I AGREE! People overlooked Sansa so many darn times, always thought she was "dumb" and "naive" but she was literally a (partially spoiled) child! This scene is probably the start when we see Sansa begin her inner growing. She was actually very wise, she only played dumb to survive. All of the Stark kids were clever (maybe not Rickon, idk much about him but he was also just a kid) The only difference is that some were skilled fighters and some were better just playing the political game only. Jon (We'll count him) Robb and Arya are wise and skilled with weapons, where as Sansa and Bran are wise and skilled with political game / survival or both.
@@marikookie9004my brother said I’m like Sansa, and I don’t know why, except surviving by a combination of lying low and the kindness of others. And learning slowly along the way
There are a few little moments between Sansa and Tyrion that are brief and understated and yet almost move me to tears. Another is when she hands him the cup at Joffrey's wedding. I would love to have seen more interactions like that; they seem to be more moving than any full blown imtimate romance in the show.
I love that the hound looks away when meryn rips her dress and he is the first to offer his cloak to her. I love that he is a dynamic character. He may love killing, but he gets no joy from hurting women and he protects her from jeofrey whenever he can. All of the characters in the series are so dynamic and have different natures inside them and I love seeing all the different sides of them. (: Like that bitch, Cerse. Even though she is a horrible person and does awful things and should die.. *cough* she loves her children and Jaime and treats them tenderly. I mean, I still hate her. And Sansa is doing what she must to survive the Lannisters. The poor girl. she has her duel natures as well. She may be subservient in order to survive, but she has a bit of a backbone and wants to avenge her family. She is just less capable than the rest of her family at doing so. She is basically alone in the enemy camp and has little support. She has some, but none that would betray the king to help her. She is strong. Just because she is not out having adventures and killing people like her siblings or directly defying the king (which would end in her beheading) does not mean she is lacking in her own strength. I mean, the girl is a survivor if nothing else. And she even gain Tyrion's respect for it at the end of the scene, hammering that point home.
I don't think Cersei does or ever did love Jamie. He's likely just the best fuck she's ever had, and since he was a capable warrior who'd do anything she said (because he absolutely loves her) he was quite useful. See her interactions with him on Season 4, she shows no feelings whatsoever for him, as long as she doesn't need anything.
Thiago Freitas Cersei does love Jaime. Read the books. But it IS a very selfish, desperate, vapid kind of love, where she more enjoys how he makes her feel and she loves how they look together and whatnot. She doesn't actually care about his feelings.
LaBellaVita0112 All I read is "she loves him, but cares only about how she feels, appearances and does not give a fuck about his feelings". Maybe you and I have very, very different opinions of what "love" means ._.
Thiago Freitas Uh, yeah, there can be different types of love, obviously. Some unhealthy, some healthy. Love isn't this pure magical force that's always sweet and perfect. It can be impure and twisted. Duh.
@@Jodacro-it4zz they were going to be making the disney star war movies, thought they'd hit their big break and wanted to rush through game of thrones, it makes me so sad i wish we had more, better developed and written seasons
Tyrion is easily the best of the Lannisters, and this scene alone proves it. He defends an innocent girl when the other two Lannisters either order her beaten or let her be beaten for imagined crimes. Oh, and Max, Joffrey Waters wouldn't last ten minutes against RENLY, let alone ANY of the other kings. I bet even Dany or Davos could defeat him easily.
96komodo Actually, Joffrey beat Robb in Winterfell. I know, Robb lost just because he was told to, but even then, Joffrey has to have some physical strength into him. And in full armor, I'm actually sure he would defeat Dany.
N1NJ4movies Unless you consider the dragons as part of Dany's weapons, in which case... =D But no, I really think he could take out Dany, but she's the only Crown he could beat one on one; Even more, considering she's a woman, she has the right to choose a champion to fight instead of her, and Joffrey has got SHIT against any of her guards, Greyworm, Daario, Jorah, Barristan, any of those could eat that prick for breakfast.
I hate all of this sansa hate! She is my favourite character and to me, it seems that people simply forget that she's only 14 years old. At the age of 13 she was given the choice of her family or to marry a handsome prince and become a princess, what 13 year old girl would reject that? Obviously she regrets it now!
Abbey Trewavas I agree with you about Sansa But she wasn't really given a choose anout marrying Joffrey, it was Ned and Robert who decided that they should marry, though from what i know about Ned and even Robert, if they knew what a little shit Joffrey was there would be no way they would force a girl Sansa age (11 in the books and 13 in the tv series) to marry some like that, no matter how much Robert would like to unit the two families.
Sansa is one of my favorite characters on this show. OMG she is treated so horrible by almost everyone. Tyrion is too, and I'm so glad he came to her defense. I hope both of them get revenge on everyone who has treated them like shit.
Josh Arrubla You gotta love how some people directly go to insults instead of discussing the subject like normal humans. That’s when you know the Sansa-haters are running out of smart points to make. I agree with you.
Tio Makkusu She only called her father a traitor because she was manipulated to do so as a child, and later on she had to in order to survive in King’s Landing. Her story is one of a survivor who learned to lay low, nod when horrible things are said or done to her family, and bide her time for revenge or escape. She suffered a lot, yes. And then, instead of fleeing South with Jon, she showed her strength and persuaded him to take back their home together. He was named King in the North thanks to her and now, the unified North stands a chance against Cersei and the Night King thanks to her.
The hound has an almost entirely chaotic neutral feel about the whole situation, if you look at him at 1:10. I think you can start to see some relation he has to Sansa and how he was tormented by his older brother, just disgusted but at the same time ready to behead Joffrey and go on a rampage.
I still go back to this moment. In a crowded hall ONLY one person stood up against a tyrant to protect an innocent person. Everyone else was either a perpetrator or bystander to Sansa' torment and humiliation. They stood by while Sansa, according to the books, was repeatedly and brutally beaten. Tyrion is one of the few men in GOT who showed Sansa kindness. He did what he could to keep her protected. Tyrion may have his flaws but he is a better man than almost all the men in GOT.
Honestly i hoped all those bystanders where in the sept when Cersei blew it up. It would make me feel a bit better about losing Loras and Margaery, some of the few other people who where kind to Sansa
I love how Sansa is a survivor without being/having any of the cliché characters/skills that most female survivors have. She has no army (like Daenerys and Cersei) and no survival skills (like Arya and Brienne). She is too feminine and gentle to pass as a boy, as Arya did, and if thrown into the wilderness probably wouldn't survive very long. She's so pretty that in low-born clothes she'd probably be taken as a prostitute which would make it difficult for her to get home. The only thing she can do is keep her head held high and ride out the storm. The respect Tyrion has for Sansa is also amazing. Even though he never says it out loud, I think he admires her strength. In less than 2 minutes, she's gone from crying mess to straight-backed Lannister supporter, as though nothing happened. He's the only one in King's Landing that she ever could've come close to trusting.
me too, I'm basically a SanSan shipper but I just love tyrion, he's sooo amazing and hot. but i don't think neither will happen, Sandor thinks only about killing people , dont get me wrong I love him too, but he's not the guy that would fall in love with 15yearold girl, and tyrion see's her only as a child and after Shae's betrayal I think he has stop to believe in love.
Yessssssssssssss. I started thinking the same thing and SPOILER - need to be past season 3 episode 8 with them being married already...if Sansa grows up a bit more and gets over looks and family name and realizes how well he treats her. The two of them being reunited once she grows up more could be a pretty cute story.
Tyrion is still one of my favourite characters cause he knows when to be clever and when to show compassion and he's politically aware of pros and cons of certain actions though the tv series probs did him more justice then the book did.
Joffrey is sooo scary when he says "If we want Robb Stark to hear us we have to speak LOUDER!" The way he says "LOUDER!" scared me a lot. The boy who plays Joffrey made a great job!
I hear a lot of Sansa Hate to the degree where I've heard people say she deserves everything she gets and to be honest I don't get it. Is she the smartest or most interesting character in the series? No, did she grow up a spoiled child? yeah. You see a lot of it in season one and while I've havn't read the books I heard she was even more bratty but come on people! Your hate is better saved for other characters in this show.
My theory is that GRRM created her to be the embodiment of a exactly how a well-brought up girl should be in medieval times: submissive, knowing that they must not question men, I could go on. She's like a Disney princess that is flighty and likely to anger feminists.
Grant Stoutenburg I do agree that she is the model of what a woman is normally expected be like in Westeros and I suppose that makes her less interesting than the people actually playing to win the game of thrones. As for feminism, feminists get upset over disney princesses because they teach girls it's better to be a princess instead of a queen, which I don't think you can apply to the ladies of game of thrones. I actually view the show as very feminist because the women in it are trying to rise above what is expected of them and if they do play as second fiddle to a man, or act in a way that would objectify themselves it's all the name of playing the game. But that's just how I see it.
Grant Stoutenburg I think that she is embodies all of this, but she is intended to subvert them. She's not instinctively submissive because she is meek and mild-mannered, but because she's trying to survive. She says she loves Joffrey because it will keep her alive. In the chances she can, Sansa fights back ("maybe he'll give me yours" and the "fighting in the vanguard" line which was her trying to manipulate Joffrey to fight in the most dangerous part of the battle.) Sansa just does not have the support that would enable her to fight back in the same way that other characters do. She's not supposed to anger feminists; she's a feminist dream come true and people should praise her for being as subversive as she is. Of course she is flawed, but she is not weak, submissive or unfeminist. She is arguably one of the strongest characters in the series, just in a very subtle and subversive way.
Shaestel I never thought of it that way. Thank you, sincerely for this perspective. I do mean that, too, in a non-sarcastic way. I was just looking at her as a bratty child with no regard for anyone's feelings but herself. I think I will look at her less as a spoiled child and simply as a strong woman now doing what she has to, to survive. I can't imagine how much strength it must take to smile at the boy responsible for the death of your brother, mother and father.
My older brother is just like Tyrion. He may indulge in drink, women and parties (as well as tries to weasel himself out of certain situations), but he shows great compassion towards those he cares for, and gives great advice whenever needed.
+anakon4 Are you sure? If you're thinking of the scene where Joffrey makes Sansa look at her dad's head, that was Meryn F*cking Trant as well. The Hound gave Sansa a cloth for the bloody lip Trant gave her.
+CrashN2Me1000 That was commonplace for medieval castles. In addition to covering the floors with rushes, the overall hygiene standard was absolutely disgusting from a modern perspective.
Sansa will win the Game of Thrones. The Character who has suffered the most and seen it all will win it so that he/she will be able to rule with Justice. Best candidate is Sansa, I doubt she'll take a husband though. She will be like Queen Elizabeth the 1st. She was also a Redhead lol
+Adina Psyche How so? Bran until her had too run even though he was Crippled was always surrounded by those who cared about him. Arya suffered but not in a way that is mentally taxing and now she is safe anyways, Sansa had to watch her father die, she had to pretend to hate her family while being engaged to a man she hates more that anything, her family was killed, so she thought she was alone, she was nearly raped in kings landing, she was beat for her brothers crimes, her wolf was killed, she had to run away so she wouldn't die and now she is married to a Psychopath who rapes her and beats her. Not only that but she is now on the run again so she doesn't get hurt.
The funny thing is in a more traditional story Joffrey would be the hero whereas characters like Tyrion and Stannis would be the villain. Joffery has the colours and symbol of a hero, red & gold and is the son of the dead king who is usually viewed as being a wise and fair ruler which were things Robert was not, at least in his final years. Stannis and Tyrion being the uncles are usually viewed as being the bad guys because Joffery would stand in their way to be king. In Stannis's case he is Robert's younger brother and would view Joffery as a obstacle in his quest for power, and evan though thats technically true, Stannis proved he was not only the legal lord of the Baratheon dynasty but also far more worthy than Robert and Joffery combined. He proved to be a excellent leader and motivated to his people as well as a exceptional warrior in his own right. For Tyrion he being the hand of the king (the kings most trusted advisor) would be viewed as being the one pulling the strings to get ride of the King but instead, Tyrion is the one who actually cares about the citizens and does what he can to protect them from people like Joffery and Cersei.
@@illegalalien3937 no, she did not. Arya could never have survived what Sansa did, just like Sansa could never have survived what Arya did, their paths were equality though and hard, and it is not right to try and make Sansa smaller by saying that Arya endured more when in fact she hasn't.
Gosh the acting in this show is so good. I feel really bad for the actors who survived to the final 3 seasons. They were given such little to work with that they never really showed how talented they are. The amazing dialogue in S1-S4 wouldn’t mean as much if the actors delivering them weren’t so talented
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"I'm not threatening the King, I'm educating my nephew"
LMAO 😂
He’s a true gentleman
I fucking love Tyrion and that's one example why
“Bron, the next time Ser Meryn speaks, kill him”
@@justyouraveragelimeenjoyer8675 I loved Tyrion every time he slaps Joffrey in the face.
@gypsy rose "hound next time ser speaks kill him, that's a threat see the difference"
I just love how among all those nobles it is the hound that gives Sansa his cloak...
Well, he was the only one who really could. Anyone else would have been suspected of treason and killed or something.
You can clearly see the entire situation was bothering the Hound. He helped as soon as he could.
He was a good boy. A lovely doofus puppy born in a harsh cruel environment
You could see from a mile away, what was going on bothered him. Even he though Jeffrey was taking this a little too far. Then the moment the opportunity presented itself, he helped her. I’d like to see someone call treason on that or say that they fooled around and both committed high treason. They’d have a conversation with my foot up they behind in no time.
Sandor always cared for Sansa, he was a good man
in the end i had a good amount of respect for Jamie and Sandor
That moment when a dwarf, a sellsword, and a hound show more honor and command more respect than the king and his knights.
And overtake court with no issue
What does being a dwarf have to do with honor or lack of honor..? 👀
The Hound didn't really do much. He took off his cape. Tyrion actually risked his life to save her.
*Books*
Joeffrey: she has the blood of a wolf!
Tyrion: and you have the wits of a goose
😂 that’s great!
Watching this scene again i just noticed that the Hound ripped his white cloak and used it to cover Sansa, such a kind and merciful move
+Robert R yeah, the only reason he didn't in the beginning was because he would have been executed. I hope he and Sansa meet again, he was always so nice to her.
rebelpoxy To taunt Arya into killing him
@@rebelpoxy in the world they live in yes absolutely he should have but what he should have done and what he actually does is almost always very different things. the point he was trying to make (aside from enrage Arya) was that you never get very far doing the "right" thing and the show has shown us several times what happens to people doing the "right" thing
@Trent T
Stfu..why the name calling? Fucking idiot. Its a show you wouldn't last one min if it was real. You hide and insult people, not very brave of you now is it?
Ayanna Smith So you respond to name calling with yet MORE name calling? How very eloquent and logical of you.
man Tyrion is such a bad ass in this scene. he won me over after this back then
It took you that long?
+edgartj17 He won me in like season 1 episode 2 when he slaps Joff
+razveck He won me over in his first scene ever. Banging Ros.
No doubt every character in GOT is awesome but Tyrion lanester and Arya stark are just fire 🔥🔥
it's easy to have balls when you have/had Jaime as your sword now Bronn and let's not mention Lannister money and oh yesssss you're the kings hand too.
I love how Sansa used to despise/look down upon bastards, peasants, unattractive people, etc., and admire kings, queens, knights, ladies and lords, and other high born. Because eventually all the people she admired end up using and abusing her, and the people she wouldn't have bat an eye for are the only people nice enough to take care of her and protect her (Tyrion, Jon, Brienne, Arya).
I guess she learned her lesson the hard way.
And the hound
Oh my god, good point
I feel like more than any other character Sansa saw the worst of humanity. From the Lannisters to Littlefinger to the Boltons. The girl saw every cruelty imaginable in the time span of three years
Brienne was pretty much a knight in all but name.
and the peasant who took her to slip away when Joffrey died.
I admire Sansa so much. She didn't even cry and she walked out of the hall with dignity and confidence. And she's so clever.
I mean, she did cry. But that's not at all shameful given the circumstances, and the rest is true.
Hated her in season 1
You....are joking.....right?
Clever? CLEVER?? She only turned "clever" after her father was killed
@@swagatabanerjee1043 lol no she didnt - ahe never did....
"Bronn, the next time Ser Meryn speaks, kill him. That was a threat, see the difference?"
Top 5 favorite GoT quotes of all time, I laughed so hard when I first heard this lol
Omfg wtf are u doing here ??
I was like DAMN SON
i think trant knew that beonn is that good & can actually kill him
Ok I did not expect you here lmao
@@ResidentBigEvil bronn would make easy work of him.
The hound was pretty pissed when they beat sansa.
+VloggedByMe HM Probably pissed because he couldn't do anything about it. Notice how quick he was to rip off his Kingsguard cloak when Tyrion asked someone to cover her? I dig the Hound--he's a decent guy deep down.
In the books, The hound literally shouts ‘enough’ before Tyrion walks in.
Lel Uchiha no he doesn’t but would’ve been interesting if he had
OhManHolyShit JK I’m sure he does. I remember it vividly.
@@maimeduverger it is known
"Careful now, we don't want to get blood all over your pretty white cloak."
Bronn's best line in GoT
For all of Bronn's ruthlessness and the front he puts up, he does have standards.
"there's no cure for being a cunt" is right up there too.
I thought every Bronn line was his best line. Guy's a legend.
@anweshchatterjee7595
'You don't fight with honour!'
'No... He did though,' 🤣🤣🤣🤣🤣
He had so many good ones, too!
I love how the hound actually protects the Stark children in little ways throughout the show, they’re so small, but they’re still there. He gave Sansa his cloak, asked after arya, and took care of her
yeah a bit like the mentor and protector at times.
In the books, he was enamored with Sansa. In the books, Cersei was the most beautiful girl in all of westeros. After the witch gave her a prophecy about a more beautiful queen, she thought it was Margaery. However, in the books, Margaery wasn't described being nearly that beautiful. In the books, the most beautiful girl in Westeros is said to be Sansa. So he was in love and enamored with her.
I also love the knowledge knowing that Arya give Meryn Trent what he deserves in the end.
@@liiiir I always thought the more beautiful queen would be Daenerys.
@@spirittammyklet’s be honest… it is hard to say because Sansa, Margery, and Daenerys are so beautiful!
I would've loved to see Bronn kick the living shit out of Meryn Trant.
Arya gave him a well deserved death
Why did she kill him? I'm into the third season.
Linky Girl You'll see
+Linky Girl meryn trant killed syrio farrel so she had him on her list to kill
Aghhh spoiler alert bwhahaha
Lol. Remember when we all thought Joffrey was the worst person in Westeros?
Sharpe1502 That position is held by Ramsey.
Jacob Mattingly I personally think that position is tied between the two
Subject058 ...no... Not really
Well...he follows after his mother...lol
Tommen is the worst one..so easy to brainwash..if joffery still alive,cersie still have her hot hair and once margiery told him to release loras from the sparrows,joffery swipe the whole sparrows like a vaccum cleaner..no more talking about gods
I know Sansa gets a lot of grief, but she really did survive using her wits and keeping her composure...forever among enemies and under duress. The fact she didn't turn into a total savage is a miracle.
yeah good analysis and catch
She did say she’s a slow learner… but yes she learns
It’s harder to have to be around these people.
"Lady Stark...You may survive us yet."
Mark my words, this was perhaps one of the most important prophecies in the whole show. If Sansa is not on the Iron Throne at the end, she'll be ruling Winterfell at the very least.
Jon and his revival skills may die. Dany and her dragons may die. Arya and her faces may die. Sansa might be the only one, with no other powers than her brain, who will make it to the end.
The funny thing is that it comes from Tyrion, also one of the only characters with no other powers than his brain. Cersei has the Mountain and that creepy wizard. Jamie has huge sword skills (+Bronn). Bran has his visions.
I'd love it that Tyrion and Sansa, the two underdogs, actually make it to the end.
matariki you may be right.. Some scriptures said "The meek shall inherit the world."
Meek .. thy meant smart survivors playing the fool.
I like Sansa too, but that is a bit of an over statement. Tyrion is actually the smartest one in the show. Sansa, up until the trial of littlefinger, has only been a burden to others around her. In the future, I am sure that will change significantly but if there is anyone capable of making it to the end based on strength and wit, it would be Jon, Arya, and Tyrion. Sansa virtually has neither at least for now but she does have will as Rob Stark did and luck. That does count for something.
This comment!🙌🏼🙌🏼 she deserves the iron throne
@Turkey Vlogah She learned from the best people how to play the Game. She's not just a survivor, she's a good player.
matariki and here we are and Sansa’s easily the smartest person left to playing the game.
She may very well be on the throne when it’s all said and done.
when sansa said I am loyal to joffery my one true love it shows how smart and strong sansa really is. She is able to pretend to be a helpless girl who is madly in love with the king even when he treats her like this. She is probably the only person on this show who can do this I mean if Arya would be in her place shenwould have been long dead
And vice versa
That's a difference type of intelligence. Sansa is a politcian-born but she doesn't have conscience before the death of her father. Arya is a warrior, a general, but maybe not a true politician like Sansa or Tyrion, maybe like more Varys because she knew the common people and their reaction/ need. So yes in King's Landing Sansa is a good actor but not Arya
That's a great point! People praise Arya for being a fierce fighter, but there are more kinds of strength in this world. Sansa portrays a different - inner&smart kind of strength. Strength of the will, the ability to control yourself and behave appropriately in any given situation, masking your true feelings. Sansa truly was strong even back then.
Arya would never be in Sansa's place because she would've killed Joffrey the day he cut the butcher's son--if it weren't for Sansa's silly dreams of marrying a handsome prince.
@@BlackOasis21 Totally true 😂
Peter Dinklage deserves every statue, trophy and piece of brick-a-brack they can hand him.
He deserves nothing it takes little talent to play a drunken whoring bitter bully.
Tricia Neckel As a whoring bitter bully, I find your comment offensive.
@@tricianeckel5054 Ahh. So you are Joffery's twin they never introduced on the show.....
Please Give him EVERYTHING you got he deserves all ONLY HE can make a dwarf walk SO badass
Joffrey: she has the blood of a wolf
Tyrion: and you have the wits of a goose
I kind of wish they kept that in lol.
One moment of kindness, one gesture of gentlemanly grace, and Tyrion showed that his heart is greater than all the adult Lannisters put together, except perhaps Jaime.
Myrcella was kind. Tommen was empathetic, cersei, joffrey and tywin were the ruthless ones.
@@prism2451 poor tommen was so easily manipulated :(
@@El1society not very strange given he was a young boy who wanted to be kind.
Here's a list of things Tyrion did in the books that were not in the show:
-ordered the conditional execution of a bunch of blacksmiths if they fail to build a chain
-ordered the burning of a district in KL because its position gave them a tactical disadvantage against Stannis' siege
-looked at Sansa lustfully and groped her a bunch while she was naked before he decided not to go through with it (she was 13 in the books)
-strangled Shae in cold blood (not in self defense, like in the show) because she testified against him
-raped a prostitute multiple times, to the point that she cried and fought to resist
And that's just what I can remember. I haven't read it since DWD came out (over 10 years ago)
He's still a great and likable character in the books. But nowhere near the saint he's portrayed to be in the show.
@@El1societyI wish we saw his rule a bit longer.
Dunno if Lancel was more annoying back then or more annoying now..
Now, no question. Nothing more annoying than a mindless religious fanatic.
+bolsón rodríguez Or a mindless arrogant atheist
+Nagato Uzumaki Key word is "fanatic".
Well now he's dead
He's just pissed that he was not able to find the breastplate stretcher.
Tyrion is the the most noble of all the Lannister brood, he should sit on the Iron Throne.
Not a difficult feat though
But oh well, Drogon melted it to the ground, and honestly I'm glad he did, cuz that throne gets people killed lol
He can but his leg can’t ..😂😅
But as I ture ruler where the tageryan bloodline... not the lansiter or any one of the ruler and as advisor Tyrion is good...
@@thirien59 it is if you speak to the king
"I'm punishing her."
"For what crimes? She didn't fight his brother's battle you halfwit"
"You can't talk to me like that! The king can do as he likes."
"The mad king did as he liked... Has your uncle Jamie ever told you what happened to him?"
MIC DROP
100th like
she deserved it. Meryn is og
@@denizkenger52 how
@@fazediamond5671 she still wanted her brother to win against her king, that is treason.
@@denizkenger52 Joffrey is an illegitimate bastard
"That was a threat. See the difference?"
One of many reasons why Tyrion is my favorite.
Tyrion is one great gentleman.
He is.
I like him
I agree. He brought a smile to my face when he stood up for Sansa, and then offered a hand to her and helped her up. That brat king had a lot to learn from his uncle.
Sansa doesn't deserve any of this. She never did. Her parents taught her how to be a lady, a queen, and she's been trying to survive.
Can't wait for season 5 and I fear for her.
Seriously! She's only doing what everyone told her to do. Cat would probably want to kill herself if she saw what she had done to Sansa.
Rosebunse
Well, to be honest, her skills as a lady and her courtesies were the only thing (that, and her claim as Lady Stark) that kept her alive and whole at King's Landing. So it's a double-edged sword, really.
Lammy4ever7 True, true. I think most of Sansa's survival came down to the fact that the others at King's Landing didn't really think much of her. For the most part, they ignored her and kept her out of the really dangerous parts. Sucks to be them now.
Well her parents failed to teach lesson 102: how to know, tell/read who your enemies are and not tell them and get your own family and self killed /murdered /assassinated.
@@Rosebunse I love how she realises this, and starts playing dumb to manipulate people especially after Aunt Lyanna
This scene has so many great little bits to it:
-I enjoy how his crown is cocked forward on his head, it just feels cocky somehow.
-Gleeson's acting is top notch, the terrible smirking, the way he delights in Sansa's torment. Truly, I fear he will forever be trapped as Joffrey because his acting is so damn good people can't separate him from the character.
-The Hound in this whole scene. He looks away when Sansa's stripped, clearly unhappy with the scene unfolding, but knowing he is in no position to do anything to stop it, until Tyrion barges in and effectively outranks Joffrey. The split second he is given the chance, he rips that cloak right off without a second thought to cover her. He isn't overly gentle about plopping it on her shoulders, but this fits with the character's tone, and also says "I am doing this but I need it to seem like I don't care a lot here or I could get punished later for it". Very subtle character nods.
-Joffrey's disgruntled/frustrated face when Tyrion comes in and effectively pulls rank.
-Tyrion in this entire damn scene, with the badass, "See the difference?!" line is just so fantastic.
-Tyrion insulting Joffrey in front of the court.
-Tyrion gently offering his hand and Joffrey's snapping to his feet in outrage that she takes it.
-Tyrion asking Sansa if she wants out, and Sansa's monotone declaration of love, with her head held high and proud in spite of the humiliation and terror she just endured, followed by the almost awestruck, "Lady Stark...you may survive us yet." Also just...so good.
Tyrion seemed to deeply admire her which actually would fit more with his book counter part, where he lusted after her even though he knew better. The both of them had such good chemistry a shame that it didn't rekindle for true later on in the show with how it was set up
Gleeson quit acting after this role, he was harassed too much over his performance.
Largely owing to the fact that people are idiots...
I think it's funny the only reason tyrion isn't murdered whenever he scolds joff is because he has been smacking joff for so long he's basically used negative reinforcement to condition joff into believing tyrion is in charge. The fucking king who has a massively fragile ego and a hard on for hurting people won't lift a finger to harm his uncle (nor order his kingsguard to kill him publicly). Shit is wild.
People can't separate his acting from his actual nature, because they're fucking idiots. Let's just put that to bed right now. There's a horrifying strain of human running amok in the world with the inability to separate fact from fiction, and these idiots vote.
I liked how the Hound ripped his white cloak to cover the girl. He really does have a big heart. Just hides it very well.
Same as Bronn. However much he might talk about being in it for the money, you couldn't see him beating a young girl
But would kill a baby if the price was right
@@boriserjavec6470 but you never see him actually do it, nor does he ever get put in that position
@@boriserjavec6470lol he was paid to kill tyrion and jaime. He didn't do it
@@tgmartin I can. Keep in mind that at one point he's plotting to kill his wife and her family just to get them out of the way and gain control of their land. Bronn is a psychopath. He has no empathy or moral inhibitions whatsoever beyond a certain appreciation for those who directly advance his position. But that appreciation only lasts for as long as they're continuing to advance and/or maintain him, or until a better offer comes along.
Bronn would absolutely kill and/or beat a young girl if he was instructed to by someone who was paying him. There are some things I don't think he'd do; I don't think he's rape someone, for example. And I don't think he'd kill someone out of simple malice or pleasure. Violence is a utility for him that's used as a tool to get what he wants (which is usually getting paid for doing violent things).
I honestly would have LOVED to see a Bronn vs Ser Meryn fight. Bronn would have destroyed his ass.
Eric Cartman yes... thats why I said "Bronn would have destroyed his ass".
+Michel van der Linden It would have been quite satisfying to watch Bronn butcher the paedo. Ugh creep. When you think about it, he probably got a boner here. Yikes.
ew, i'd never put that together re-watching this scene. grody. he probably loved it even if she was a bit too old for him...
Meryn was killed by a little girl, Bronn would kick his little ass.
+Baconlightning Arya no longer qualifies as a little girl, the girl is a trained water dancer and assassin.
For those saying that this "proves" Sansa should have been happy to marry and sleep with Tyrion, you fail to remember the family he comes from. Even though Tyrion is likely the most honorable of the Lannister House, Sansa would still have to endure torment from her in-laws regardless of how well Tyrion treats her. She would still be stuck in King's Landing with Cersei and Joffrey (at least until his death, which she didn't even know would happen). She doesn't need to "be grateful" to marry him. She should be grateful for his actions in this scene, as well as his decision to honor and respect her, but in no way does she have to be grateful to the Lannisters for arranging a marriage that traps her in King's Landing.
The whole "she should be grateful" but has a nasty "blaming the victim" aftertaste.
Indeed. Plus Cersei and Joffrey were really sweet to her at the beginning but we know how it turned out. Sansa really wanted to appreciate Tyrion's kindness but she never knew if it was genuine or if he was faking it like his sister and nephew. Anyway she was only 14 back then (even 12 in the book) so she was disgusted by the prospect of having sex with a man old enough to be her father. Not to mention she once was to marry one of the Tyrell brothers (Willas in the book, Loras in the show) and therefore had a chance to escape to Highgarden. Then her hopes got destroyed in one go.
Except she saw Joffrey's vicious side ever since she watched him torture Micah and try to kill Arya, but instead, she quickly defended him and blamed Arya. SHe knew exactly what Joffrey was like from that incident alone but she still kept her crush on him, up to when he choped her father's head off. She also witnessed Cersei lying her head off defending Joffrey and requesting her Wolf Lady death. So no, she couldn't use Cersei or Joffrey as reasons for distrusting Tyrion, because both had shown their colors early on but Sansa blatantly ignored all the warning signs. With Tyrion, she all the vibes she got from him was a man who wanted to do his best to protect her.
And no, Sansa's not fourteen. She was fourteen or thirteen in season 1 because Jon and Rob was around 17 in season 1, and Arya only 11. But even at 11, Arya showed much more courage and integrity than lying Sansa. It also explains why Arya was Ned's favorite.
No wonder more people love Arya, Dany, an Lyanna Mormont more than Sansa. All three acted ten times more brave and not-so naive then stupid Sansa.
Undriel Grenger Sansa did not keep her crush on him when he chopped her father's head of so please stop making things up
@@undrielgrenger53 half the things you said are made up, plus Tyrion is still activly fighting against her family causing her to be trapped in kingslanding, he might treat her good but her is one of the reasons she is stuck there
“Lady Stark, you may survive us yet.” Best line. This exchange makes their future marriage believable.
I always felt it was interesting that, as much as Joffrey threatened Tyrion, he still saw him as someone to respect to a point, in so much as Joffrey could respect anyone. When Tyrion showed up to save Sansa, Joffrey was genuinely intimidated for a second, he was the king, yet looked like a kid caught by an adult doing something sneaky. And when Tyrion said 'The Mad King did as he liked', Joffrey shut up and listened. And it was one of the few times where he shut up and let what he was doing be stopped. And when Tyrion would give him a piece of his mind, he would always threaten, but never follow through. When he would insult Tyrion, it was always like poking with a stick and petty, because he knew Tyrion was smarter, and he respected his council, even as he didn't often follow it.
I feel like Tywin's presence as head of the house also played a role. Tywin thought Tyrion was useful as much as he hated him so he likely wouldn't have allowed Joffrey to engage in kinslaying and Joffrey is shown to be intimidated enough by Tywin.
because he knew he cant harm tyrion because of tywin
Tyrion has that 80s Black Uncle Energy; cool but will give you a slap to keep you in line.
This scene is a perfect example of why I love Tyrion so much
yep agreed
Tyrion Lannister not a knight, not a lord, not even tall but the greatest gentleman there is on this show.
On theory he's lord of Winterfel for now, since he's married to the "only" alive descendant of Eddard Stark.
I just don't think he's eager to take his castle, given it's inches deep into snow and burnt to the ground by that fucker Ramsey Snow
Tyrion is her knight in shining armour
Also the Hound. Literally a knight, ripped his own cloak to cover her. Saved her from rapists. Offered to help her escape.
"Killing you would send your brother a message"
What message? That you have no prisoners left to trade? That Robb is free to kill Jamie and do anything he was unwilling to do before because of his captured sister?
Joffrey wasn't very bright indeed
I don't know if the Starks knew at this point that they didn't have Sansa. I can't quite recall, but I'm almost certain that the Stark's assumed Sansa was still in Lannister custody.
"THAT was a threat, see the difference?"
Jack Gleeson is soooooo good as Joffrey! Can't believe he's stopped acting
Maybe it was from the role being so extreme. Sometimes hard roles take a toll on the actual person.
@@nataliagorman3578 He's got to study too, which is a good move. Having nothing but an acting background is not really safe, but a finished college degree certainly is investing in your future.
Chromasus I'm sure earning more than a million per episode will be enough as investing for future.Even a person with a doctorate's degree will take 10yrs to earn what he earns per episode
Yeah very sad...he did such a good job playing the bad guy...able to make people hate you SO much
Another example of characters you Love to hate
Chromasus it was sad seeing him leave
But education is education...it’s super beneficial and it WILL get you far...I’m glad he cares as much abt it
I swear Tyron would make a better father than half the fathers on this show
i've seen this scene many times, and only now i've realized at @1:26 the terror and concern on joffrey's face as soon as he sees tyrion because he knew the party was over and there was nothing he could do, he really felt helpless.
Really highlighted the fact that aside from tywin, tyrion was the only one who could put that little shit on his place.
I always got the sense that he understood Tyrion was trying to help him throughout this time, but he just couldn’t deal with his insecurity or control his impulses.
Joffrey was always conflicted. He knew his position was weak so he constantly over compensated.
Tyrion, a great character.
It's so hard to hate the Lannisters when I remember Tyrion is one of them.
He might be the only one who's not a nut job.
True
+Ben Levine I like Myrcella, Tywin and Tyrion even Kevan is good. Lannisters are imo good House and for me the second or first best.
***** well he's the only one who's not super psychotic
turns out that Jamie is not that hateful either.
I love Tyrion so much, just from the moment he appeared I knew he’d be my favorite and that never changed.
I love how Bronn had Tyrions back without him saying a word. Respect.
Are there still people who truly believe that Sansa really means the words she says at the end?? About " joffrey, her true love"? Even when tyrion says " lady stark you may survive us yet"? What bias for her character some people have.
ria237 she was being smart and dumb at the same time by insisting on that
yes she meant it.
Tyrion: What kind of knight beats a helpless girl?
Meryn: The kind who serves his king!
Me: Aaah, I see. A bitch-king needs his bitch-knight.
Why does that sound like something bron would say? I just imagined him saying that
Careful now we don’t want to get blood all over your pretty white cloak
@@erideb3864 because Bronn can't openly insult the king. Tyrion can because he has Tywin's power behind him but Bronn is just a sellsword.
@@masterplokoon8803 I was just being rhetorical but thanks for the courtesy. I based that comment because the last bit sounded like bron and nothing to do with this messed up circumstances they're in, and f#!k Joffrey
"Lady Stark, you may survive us yet" Such a powerful quote now in season 8, Sansa was always a survivor, she was brave and smart enough to hide her hate to the Lannisters and survive without fighting with a sword, she was always one of the best players of the game, but no one saw that until last season...
I always supported her. The lady of Winterfell 👏👏
I know your comment is a bit old, but I have to reply. I AGREE! People overlooked Sansa so many darn times, always thought she was "dumb" and "naive" but she was literally a (partially spoiled) child! This scene is probably the start when we see Sansa begin her inner growing. She was actually very wise, she only played dumb to survive. All of the Stark kids were clever (maybe not Rickon, idk much about him but he was also just a kid) The only difference is that some were skilled fighters and some were better just playing the political game only. Jon (We'll count him) Robb and Arya are wise and skilled with weapons, where as Sansa and Bran are wise and skilled with political game / survival or both.
@@marikookie9004my brother said I’m like Sansa, and I don’t know why, except surviving by a combination of lying low and the kindness of others. And learning slowly along the way
Tyrion may not be a knight, but he sure knows how to save a damsel in distress!
I freaking love the way Bronn looks at Ser Meryn after receiving Tyrion's order 😂
There are a few little moments between Sansa and Tyrion that are brief and understated and yet almost move me to tears. Another is when she hands him the cup at Joffrey's wedding. I would love to have seen more interactions like that; they seem to be more moving than any full blown imtimate romance in the show.
Sophie Turner's acting is outstandig. I know, the others also, but in this scene she showed her emotions so good I could've cried with her
I love them so much 😭 especially after the crypt scene in S8
I love that the hound looks away when meryn rips her dress and he is the first to offer his cloak to her. I love that he is a dynamic character. He may love killing, but he gets no joy from hurting women and he protects her from jeofrey whenever he can. All of the characters in the series are so dynamic and have different natures inside them and I love seeing all the different sides of them. (: Like that bitch, Cerse. Even though she is a horrible person and does awful things and should die.. *cough* she loves her children and Jaime and treats them tenderly. I mean, I still hate her. And Sansa is doing what she must to survive the Lannisters. The poor girl. she has her duel natures as well. She may be subservient in order to survive, but she has a bit of a backbone and wants to avenge her family. She is just less capable than the rest of her family at doing so. She is basically alone in the enemy camp and has little support. She has some, but none that would betray the king to help her. She is strong. Just because she is not out having adventures and killing people like her siblings or directly defying the king (which would end in her beheading) does not mean she is lacking in her own strength. I mean, the girl is a survivor if nothing else. And she even gain Tyrion's respect for it at the end of the scene, hammering that point home.
I don't think Cersei does or ever did love Jamie.
He's likely just the best fuck she's ever had, and since he was a capable warrior who'd do anything she said (because he absolutely loves her) he was quite useful.
See her interactions with him on Season 4, she shows no feelings whatsoever for him, as long as she doesn't need anything.
Thiago Freitas Cersei does love Jaime. Read the books. But it IS a very selfish, desperate, vapid kind of love, where she more enjoys how he makes her feel and she loves how they look together and whatnot. She doesn't actually care about his feelings.
Thanks to that scum-vermin brother of his, Sandor knows what it's like to be at the mercy of a bastard.
LaBellaVita0112 All I read is "she loves him, but cares only about how she feels, appearances and does not give a fuck about his feelings". Maybe you and I have very, very different opinions of what "love" means ._.
Thiago Freitas Uh, yeah, there can be different types of love, obviously. Some unhealthy, some healthy. Love isn't this pure magical force that's always sweet and perfect. It can be impure and twisted. Duh.
Fitting that it was Sansa's sister who killed Meryn.
I like how everyone in the room stayed super quiet after Tyrion told him off, that quote made me laugh haha
It still breaks my heart at how badly this show ended
What caused it to go off the rails
@@Jodacro-it4zzthe writers decided to be stupid.
@MRJMXHD ah so the typical let's turn something good into something shite routine gotcha
@@Jodacro-it4zz they were going to be making the disney star war movies, thought they'd hit their big break and wanted to rush through game of thrones, it makes me so sad i wish we had more, better developed and written seasons
@glizzygladiator6969 yeah and look how those movies turned out. It was not worth jt
Tyrion is easily the best of the Lannisters, and this scene alone proves it. He defends an innocent girl when the other two Lannisters either order her beaten or let her be beaten for imagined crimes.
Oh, and Max, Joffrey Waters wouldn't last ten minutes against RENLY, let alone ANY of the other kings. I bet even Dany or Davos could defeat him easily.
Do you mean on the battlefield on or a fight 1v1? Cause I'm pretty sure he could take out Dany 1v1.
N1NJ4movies Joffrey can't fight for shit he literally as no merit to him what so ever now i know why robert didn't respect the little fucker.
96komodo Actually, Joffrey beat Robb in Winterfell. I know, Robb lost just because he was told to, but even then, Joffrey has to have some physical strength into him. And in full armor, I'm actually sure he would defeat Dany.
N1NJ4movies Unless you consider the dragons as part of Dany's weapons, in which case... =D
But no, I really think he could take out Dany, but she's the only Crown he could beat one on one; Even more, considering she's a woman, she has the right to choose a champion to fight instead of her, and Joffrey has got SHIT against any of her guards, Greyworm, Daario, Jorah, Barristan, any of those could eat that prick for breakfast.
Tywin would've defended her too.
I hate all of this sansa hate! She is my favourite character and to me, it seems that people simply forget that she's only 14 years old. At the age of 13 she was given the choice of her family or to marry a handsome prince and become a princess, what 13 year old girl would reject that? Obviously she regrets it now!
Abbey Trewavas I agree with you about Sansa But she wasn't really given a choose anout marrying Joffrey, it was Ned and Robert who decided that they should marry, though from what i know about Ned and even Robert, if they knew what a little shit Joffrey was there would be no way they would force a girl Sansa age (11 in the books and 13 in the tv series) to marry some like that, no matter how much Robert would like to unit the two families.
Every girl needs a Tyrion in their lives
Gotta love Bronn. Doesn’t stand on ceremony and always knows just what to say and when to say it.
Sansa is one of my favorite characters on this show. OMG she is treated so horrible by almost everyone. Tyrion is too, and I'm so glad he came to her defense. I hope both of them get revenge on everyone who has treated them like shit.
She is your favorite character because she suffered ?
Josh Arrubla You gotta love how some people directly go to insults instead of discussing the subject like normal humans. That’s when you know the Sansa-haters are running out of smart points to make. I agree with you.
Maybe i am stupid.You want to discuss ? Let's discuss.She suffered,called her father traitor,suffered again and was raped.Saved Jon Snow...and ?
And i'm pointing the show,in the books didn't do anything.
Tio Makkusu She only called her father a traitor because she was manipulated to do so as a child, and later on she had to in order to survive in King’s Landing. Her story is one of a survivor who learned to lay low, nod when horrible things are said or done to her family, and bide her time for revenge or escape. She suffered a lot, yes. And then, instead of fleeing South with Jon, she showed her strength and persuaded him to take back their home together. He was named King in the North thanks to her and now, the unified North stands a chance against Cersei and the Night King thanks to her.
The hound has an almost entirely chaotic neutral feel about the whole situation, if you look at him at 1:10. I think you can start to see some relation he has to Sansa and how he was tormented by his older brother, just disgusted but at the same time ready to behead Joffrey and go on a rampage.
I still go back to this moment. In a crowded hall ONLY one person stood up against a tyrant to protect an innocent person. Everyone else was either a perpetrator or bystander to Sansa' torment and humiliation. They stood by while Sansa, according to the books, was repeatedly and brutally beaten. Tyrion is one of the few men in GOT who showed Sansa kindness. He did what he could to keep her protected. Tyrion may have his flaws but he is a better man than almost all the men in GOT.
Honestly i hoped all those bystanders where in the sept when Cersei blew it up. It would make me feel a bit better about losing Loras and Margaery, some of the few other people who where kind to Sansa
I love how Sansa is a survivor without being/having any of the cliché characters/skills that most female survivors have. She has no army (like Daenerys and Cersei) and no survival skills (like Arya and Brienne). She is too feminine and gentle to pass as a boy, as Arya did, and if thrown into the wilderness probably wouldn't survive very long. She's so pretty that in low-born clothes she'd probably be taken as a prostitute which would make it difficult for her to get home. The only thing she can do is keep her head held high and ride out the storm.
The respect Tyrion has for Sansa is also amazing. Even though he never says it out loud, I think he admires her strength. In less than 2 minutes, she's gone from crying mess to straight-backed Lannister supporter, as though nothing happened. He's the only one in King's Landing that she ever could've come close to trusting.
I actually started shipping Tyrion and Sansa at this point
Me too. I still do to this day.
me too, I'm basically a SanSan shipper but I just love tyrion, he's sooo amazing and hot. but i don't think neither will happen, Sandor thinks only about killing people , dont get me wrong I love him too, but he's not the guy that would fall in love with 15yearold girl, and tyrion see's her only as a child and after Shae's betrayal I think he has stop to believe in love.
Me too. They're my OTP in GoT.
Yessssssssssssss. I started thinking the same thing and SPOILER - need to be past season 3 episode 8
with them being married already...if Sansa grows up a bit more and gets over looks and family name and realizes how well he treats her. The two of them being reunited once she grows up more could be a pretty cute story.
Vickledeedoo Hahaha, cute story?? This is game of fucking thrones not some fairy tale
Tyrion realising Sansa is one of the smartest pieces on the board
Only to realize she is not a piece but a player
No, at this point she’s still learning, but at least she’s learned how to survive
Tyrion is still one of my favourite characters cause he knows when to be clever and when to show compassion and he's politically aware of pros and cons of certain actions though the tv series probs did him more justice then the book did.
Joffrey is sooo scary when he says "If we want Robb Stark to hear us we have to speak LOUDER!" The way he says "LOUDER!" scared me a lot. The boy who plays Joffrey made a great job!
I hear a lot of Sansa Hate to the degree where I've heard people say she deserves everything she gets and to be honest I don't get it. Is she the smartest or most interesting character in the series? No, did she grow up a spoiled child? yeah. You see a lot of it in season one and while I've havn't read the books I heard she was even more bratty but come on people! Your hate is better saved for other characters in this show.
My theory is that GRRM created her to be the embodiment of a exactly how a well-brought up girl should be in medieval times: submissive, knowing that they must not question men, I could go on. She's like a Disney princess that is flighty and likely to anger feminists.
Grant Stoutenburg I do agree that she is the model of what a woman is normally expected be like in Westeros and I suppose that makes her less interesting than the people actually playing to win the game of thrones. As for feminism, feminists get upset over disney princesses because they teach girls it's better to be a princess instead of a queen, which I don't think you can apply to the ladies of game of thrones. I actually view the show as very feminist because the women in it are trying to rise above what is expected of them and if they do play as second fiddle to a man, or act in a way that would objectify themselves it's all the name of playing the game. But that's just how I see it.
Grant Stoutenburg I think that she is embodies all of this, but she is intended to subvert them. She's not instinctively submissive because she is meek and mild-mannered, but because she's trying to survive. She says she loves Joffrey because it will keep her alive. In the chances she can, Sansa fights back ("maybe he'll give me yours" and the "fighting in the vanguard" line which was her trying to manipulate Joffrey to fight in the most dangerous part of the battle.) Sansa just does not have the support that would enable her to fight back in the same way that other characters do. She's not supposed to anger feminists; she's a feminist dream come true and people should praise her for being as subversive as she is. Of course she is flawed, but she is not weak, submissive or unfeminist. She is arguably one of the strongest characters in the series, just in a very subtle and subversive way.
Shaestel I never thought of it that way. Thank you, sincerely for this perspective. I do mean that, too, in a non-sarcastic way. I was just looking at her as a bratty child with no regard for anyone's feelings but herself. I think I will look at her less as a spoiled child and simply as a strong woman now doing what she has to, to survive. I can't imagine how much strength it must take to smile at the boy responsible for the death of your brother, mother and father.
I'd say she's pretty smart. Any Stark that's still alive is doing something right
Here are they after 7 seasons still holding hands together
Ser Taryn Mant
"Better at beating girls than fighting men."
My older brother is just like Tyrion. He may indulge in drink, women and parties (as well as tries to weasel himself out of certain situations), but he shows great compassion towards those he cares for, and gives great advice whenever needed.
Good brother
I love how the hound gives his cloak to Sansa. SanSan
+Haliun Damdin would he have hit her if joffrey had told him to?
+corsican lulu no way in the seven hells. Sandor may be a dog but he aint Meryn Trant
+Haliun Damdin Meryn F*cking Trant.
+corsican lulu He already hit her lol. At the end of season 1.
+anakon4 Are you sure? If you're thinking of the scene where Joffrey makes Sansa look at her dad's head, that was Meryn F*cking Trant as well. The Hound gave Sansa a cloth for the bloody lip Trant gave her.
Tyrion is the nicest guy of the Lennister family and the best character in the series. Truly a small man with a big heart of gold
I love how the Hound is thought to be cruel and evil but he is the only, knight to show disgust at Joffrey’s actions.
Joffrey was such great villain
Intense, frightening scene and all l'm thinking is, "Would someone please sweep the damn floor? Why the hell are there always so many leaves?!" Ha!
CrashN2Me1000 It's a marble floor.
moonkick360 Dude. l know. But l'm not mistaking marble flooring for leaves. They're all over the place in other scenes that have a clearer view.
+CrashN2Me1000 That was commonplace for medieval castles. In addition to covering the floors with rushes, the overall hygiene standard was absolutely disgusting from a modern perspective.
At first I thought Tyrion was just a nobody but then he actually was a good guy.
The hound and Tyrion are beautiful people.
Tyrion is the wisest character in got... I love the way he treats Sansa, he never hurt her..
tyrion is my favorite character. "The next time he speaks, kill him" he says it so calmly it's hilarious.
Lol Meryn Trant beating Sansa... The job of his dreams... Gawd, that's disturbing.
+HBMHD Ugh. Looking at this scene after finding out about Meryn's pedophilia made this 10x more disturbing.
"Too old.'
+HBMHD Meryn Fucking Trant you mean.
+HBMHD i think he's kinda dissapointed, you know, "too old"
to old for him.. he would have want Arya prob
Back when Tyrion was the most interesting and coolest character....
Sansa will be the Queen. Tyrion will be the hand and her husband. And Brienne will be the Oueen's guard.
Almost but not quit
Sansa will win the Game of Thrones.
The Character who has suffered the most and seen it all will win it so that he/she will be able to rule with Justice.
Best candidate is Sansa, I doubt she'll take a husband though. She will be like Queen Elizabeth the 1st. She was also a Redhead lol
Paul Tokjian The Hound could come back and totally be the Lord Commander of her Queens guard\ super protective awesome consort
+Ja Na Jon will be back. Melisandre will bring him back to life and when she does R+L=J Will be proven because Mel only cares about Royal blood.
Suffered the most?What about Arya?What about Bran?They suffered far more.
+Adina Psyche amen
+Adina Psyche How so? Bran until her had too run even though he was Crippled was always surrounded by those who cared about him. Arya suffered but not in a way that is mentally taxing and now she is safe anyways, Sansa had to watch her father die, she had to pretend to hate her family while being engaged to a man she hates more that anything, her family was killed, so she thought she was alone, she was nearly raped in kings landing, she was beat for her brothers crimes, her wolf was killed, she had to run away so she wouldn't die and now she is married to a Psychopath who rapes her and beats her. Not only that but she is now on the run again so she doesn't get hurt.
Bra-fucking-vo Tyrion.
“That was a threat! See the difference?”
He’s my favorite
Tyrion standing tall in this scene
How about killing Ser Meryn for the heck of it?
That was a satisfying one ;-)
2:07-2:09, Bronn is the real MVP, truly hope he survives.
So tender the way Tyrion helps her to her feet. It always chokes me up a bit.
Words can't express how much I love tyrion, such a good man
Tyrion is a freaking boss.
Tyrion saw the strength in her...
One of my FAVORITE GOT scenes. Tyrion showing Nobility towards Sansa, and threatening Ser Meryn! Awesome!
Joffrey: "You can't talk to me that way!"
I just did. Why didn't Tyrion say that?
He's such a gentleman :D
The funny thing is in a more traditional story Joffrey would be the hero whereas characters like Tyrion and Stannis would be the villain. Joffery has the colours and symbol of a hero, red & gold and is the son of the dead king who is usually viewed as being a wise and fair ruler which were things Robert was not, at least in his final years.
Stannis and Tyrion being the uncles are usually viewed as being the bad guys because Joffery would stand in their way to be king. In Stannis's case he is Robert's younger brother and would view Joffery as a obstacle in his quest for power, and evan though thats technically true, Stannis proved he was not only the legal lord of the Baratheon dynasty but also far more worthy than Robert and Joffery combined. He proved to be a excellent leader and motivated to his people as well as a exceptional warrior in his own right.
For Tyrion he being the hand of the king (the kings most trusted advisor) would be viewed as being the one pulling the strings to get ride of the King but instead, Tyrion is the one who actually cares about the citizens and does what he can to protect them from people like Joffery and Cersei.
+Kevin Murphy he's not the true son, his true father is Jamie Lannister not Robert Baratheon.
In a more traditional story, characters like Bronn and Sandor Clegane would also be villains
Stannis met the one true king at castle black, Aegon Targaryen VI.
Kevin Murphy that's the whole point , he is not the son of the dead king. Jaime saw to it
well to be fair Stannis still is a villian
And Arya thought Sansa just chilled while wearing pretty dresses in King's Landing
Tete Minne arya had rougher path than sansa
@@illegalalien3937 no, she did not. Arya could never have survived what Sansa did, just like Sansa could never have survived what Arya did, their paths were equality though and hard, and it is not right to try and make Sansa smaller by saying that Arya endured more when in fact she hasn't.
Gosh the acting in this show is so good. I feel really bad for the actors who survived to the final 3 seasons. They were given such little to work with that they never really showed how talented they are. The amazing dialogue in S1-S4 wouldn’t mean as much if the actors delivering them weren’t so talented
I FUCKING LOVE TYRION
Who doesn't? :D