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RoboCop has a dynasty of comics. I already named one in the other comments. Here's the other 5: Marvel Comics (1990-1992), plus adaptations of the first two films. Frank Miller's RoboCop versus The Terminator from Dark Horse Comics (1992) which became a video game in 1993. Dark Horse Comics, (1992-1994), 13 issues plus adaptation of RoboCop 3. Dynamite Entertainment, (2009-2013), 14 issues. Boom! Studios (2013-2016), 34 issues.
As for the third one just skip it. Also there is Frank Miller's Robocop comic book. The story was made out of unused Robocop 2 script which was at the time unfilmable
Watching Robocop 3 is a must, don't short yourselves or us on viewing it, that way the viewing the remake would be worth it. I think the rollercoaster ride y'all felt on Robocop 2, you'll have that but it'll be much more fun in Robocop 3. Also, quick note on the drug Nuke in Robocop 2, I didn't pick this up before, but it was the action one would take during the commercial for the war board game in the 1st movie.
Fun fact: When RoboCain "broke" the actress' neck, it looked so real when she landed, the entire cast stopped and thought she was really dead. She was perfectly fine, though, as being a dancer made her extremely limber.
I remember reading about that; the cast, crew, and director were alarmed at the way she landed and rushed to see if she was okay because, as you mentioned, they thought she was actually dead. However, she got up and showed that she was perfectly fine LOL!
Also, their freak-out reaction to her landing scared her into thinking that she had actually hurt herself and that's when she go up, kinda panicked herself, to ask where she was injured!
i also heard that when they shot the scene where the arm grabs her, they were wondering how they could get the stop motion effect without her moving. not sure how long they shot the scene, but she didn't move the whole time and got the effect they wanted. she was good.
It changed nothing. They find a solution anyway in the first movie even with the grey finish. They change the color mainly because they wanted a more friendly image, more "toy" appearance for a younger audience.
I read that they tinted it more blue to make him look more "Cop-like," like the blue uniforms most officers wear. No clue how true this is, though. 🤷♂
The blue tint he has makes it look like his armor is blued steel. Bluing is a way of finishing steel that gives it that kind of blue look. You see it a lot in firearms. So I'd argue the blue tint actually makes him look less toy like and a bit less space age.
@Furyswildmeat well that doesn’t contradict what I said. In the first film the camera would keep reflecting the camera so when they had the chance to use the other finish they went for it.
Yes... you guys NEED to see that. Putting Rocky and Rambo aside, Demolition Man and Cop Land are Stallone's best films (also Lock-Up... a smaller, but strong film)
Still better than this movie. Honestly the kid being the drug lord boss and robo 2 being an addict it's dumber than ninja cyborgs and the jetpack from 3.
You guys are right... the script, the 'idea' is much like the original film... BUT, the studio wanted to make it more commercial, flashy and Batman Forever-ish, sell toys to kids etc. etc. After this is Robocop 3 which goes PG-13 (1 and 2 are R) and complete drops the crazy violence, clever 'soul' of the original.
Also Robocop the series live action kids show. Robocop stops crime without actually shooting bad guys its super corny but decent enough to watch. All different actors that are worse but not terrible
Fun facts: Peter actually returned to play Robocop in MK11, and he’s also reprising his role in an upcoming video game that is supposedly either meant to be a direct sequel to 1 or 2. Speaking of sequels, a direct sequel is reportedly in the works, with Peter also returning. Though, who knows if it’s still going to happen, after the writers strike.
I honestly feel like while it's a worse movie, overall robocop 3 is more fun than 2. I have a better time watching it for entertainment value. I mean, he gets a big upgrade and gets to fight a fun bad guy. I don't want to spoil it but I feel like doing so is a selling point to watch it lol
I loved that the last reaction was nothing but praise and a genuine critique of the themes and world, until the last 30 seconds with Dick falling out the window with “outstretched” arms. Looking forward to this one 😂❤❤❤❤❤❤
Check out Frank Miller's Robocop comic run (2003) - it was adapted from the original screenplay Miller did for Robocop 2 (there's a lot more of Murphy's family & history)
True. But that’s also the problem with Frank’s script! He doesn’t delve into as much you think and he shoves way too much into the script to where it feels bloated too. It’s certainly not all his fault, it’s clear they had a lot of Ideas for this film that really hurts. But I still love this film!
Coy you're absolutely right. I had the battle damaged Robocop. You could take off the regular chest plate and helmet and swap them for the ones with the bullet holes. It even had the retractable USB spike thing.
To those upset about the afamily plot getting concluded, the game coming out Robocop: Rogue City is set after the 2nd movie and supposedly delves much deeper into the murphy family
That second RobiCop 2 prototype...when my brother and I first saw this movie as kids, we were screaming with laughter when it took its own helmet off. Glad to see you guys thought it was just as funny as we did.
Despite being dismantled and reprogrammed, the returning cyborg policeman is still more than just the sum of HIS parts, cleaning up and saving the streets of Detroit!!!!!
At 21:37, the guy says "These are death-row inmates!". The picture on the screen is Irvin Kershner, Director of Empire Strikes Back, Never Say Never Again, and a bunch of other films, including Robocop 2.
I was always disappointed that this movie never delved deeper into the subplot with Murphy and his family. But instead it just gets brushed aside for the comic book story of him fighting Cain.
That is true! There was ALOT shoved into this film! And sadly this film never got to explore Murphy, or settle his yearning for his family. Had they placed his wife somewhere after Caine’s Arrest.
Literal spit-take at Greg's Mars Attacks! Martian impression. As for Robocop 3, it's gotta be done to complete the story, or for the sheer pleasure of watching Bradley Whitford, CCH Pounder and Rip Torn if for no other reason. Watching you guys react is pure joy and more so when the movie doesn't quite deliver 🤣
I love this movie, mostly for nostalgic reasons. I have a cousin who lived several states away at the time, but he was able to come over and visit for a week during the summer this movie came out. We were barely teenagers, but we absolutely loved the first Robocop and we convinced our moms to take us to the theater to see this one. At the time, we thought it was amazing, but now looking at it through an adult's perspective, we definitely see the flaws. I think it would've been a lot better if they used the scene with Robocop talking to his former wife and made that the very last scene of the film. And a couple of other tweaks here and there, but I won't get into that here.
i still very weirdly prefer the 2nd to the 1st - possibly because i saw the former first. Was the first time i had seen a movie with this amount of violence and was kinda sensory overload. The warehouse scene where you are introduced to Kane Robocop always scared the hell out of me.
I just love when they say "don't you have bazookas?" to the cops! and I'm like "is it really normal for law enforcement to have anti armored vehicle RPGs made for warfare?!!" :))
Indeed. I don't think police in general need firepower capable of taking down a tank or an armored vehicle as in most Western countries the chances for a cop to run into someone driving these are really small.
@@TheDutchGhost yup, tbh unless a country is in an active full on military coup or civil war, the chance for cops to encounter armored vehicles is close to zero in any country on the globe!
When I first saw this movie when it came out in the theater I thought it was alright and nothing special. Over the years I started to appreciate it more as a good solid film. The first one is better but part 2 is a worthy sequel.
I like Robocop 2, it is a worthy sequel without obviously surpassing the original, I compare it in that sense to Predator 2, another one that received mixed reviews, but it was good, it wasn't that bad, it had its good moments.
@@masamune2984 Robocop 3 is much worse in every way, poor script, poor production, the violence was washed out a lot to make a movie for the whole family, the irony no longer exists, at least Robocop 2 tried to maintain all that, that's why For me, despite its flaws, it is still a worthy sequel,
The villain from this movie was also the villain in "Last Action Hero," with Arnold Schwarzenegger." If any chance you haven't watched it, you really should!
Thought you were confusing the CEO actor with the one who played the mob boss or something at first until I realized you meant Kane and the Raincoat axe man from “Jack Slater 3” in Last Action Hero. 🤷♂️
Now you have to watch number 3, just so we can see how you react to it. I remember the series being good, but I haven't watched it since it first aired when I was a kid, but Prime Directives is a four part Mini-Series that, while having it's "cheesy" bits; is great. The actor does a great job of portraying Robocop and Murphy (as in he plays pre Robocop Murphy in flashbacks), and it's definitely an experience you won't regret having...
Yeah, Part 2 isn't on the same level as 1, but it's still a good time and a pretty fun flick overall. Definitely the earliest movie in my memory where it became clear someone stepped in and changed the direction of the plot though. Part 3... honestly it swings into "so bad it's good" territory for me. lmao
Awesome to see you guys get excited about this.. when I first saw this as a teenager, Robocop was like the tippy top most anticipated movie.. including the sequels. Well at least the first sequel..
hardly anybody is watching "wheel of time", but coy seems to be following the trajectory of the lead actor who started as a curly-haired ginger and opted to be a shaved head ginger for the second season. 😄
So this movie was originally written by frank miller, but many changes were made to make it more adaptable to film. He turned his original script into a comic book that is infamous.
The only part I didn’t like about this movie is they set up the idea of Robocops identity and feeling human and then kinda just forget about it. You don’t see his wife again and it’s like they forgot half way through the movie what they set up. Also I’m kinda pissed the music is different, I loved the theme from the first film, noticeably absent this film
I actually owned a Robocop action figure w/ jetpack and noises 😊 Yeah, I was suckered into the merchandising from the movies 😅 Couldn't find a Clarence Bodicker figure, though 🤔
They never made clarence or Cain and I was always pissed lol.. and i could never find ED209 (260) unfortunately but I had "headhunter" tho whoever the f*ck that is 😂
One thing about most reactions on old movies, 90s and prior is that they are being scrutinized with modern eyes, with the modern era, but imagine watching these films in the context of the times they were created, they were literally mind blowing, some called masterpieces. It’s just more than a reaction but more of understanding the film and transporting yourself to those times, only then you will set apart a good critique.
If you guys like Robocop, you should really consider checking out Robot Jox. The setting is completely different, but it has an overall similar feel and tone when it comes to the world. Admittedly, the middle of the movie suffers from a pacing slowdown that hinders it, but overall, it's a lot of fun with some wacky performances.
There are two other movies that are sometimes called sequels: Robot Wars (about the last giant robot being hijacked by bad guys) and Robo Warriors (basically same as Robot Jox but against aliens)
There is an Adam Savage video where he talks to Phil Tippett the stop motion guy all about Robocop 2 and they had some Cain Robo props there. I love RB2, yeah it doesnt have the 'soul' of RB1 but the Robo carnage is awesome! :D
- Watch the reboot before you watch the 3rd one. In fact, don’t watch the 3rd one at all! 😅 It’s not so bad it’s good; it genuinely sullies the first two. - I like how the secret foot clan arcade from TMNT makes its way into this movie 😂 - If you electrocute someone in your car, your car’s gonna smell like ASS for a number of reasons 🤢😄 - Robocop being FORCED to say “I’m free”… it’s HAUNTING. Delisciuos irony… I get why Weller signed up for this sequel. (PS… I typed this last part a MINUTE before Koy said it 😮) - The NOT SMOKING thing WAS a meme if it’s time. Theaters actually used it as a pre-movie PSA - NO way that bartender stunt guy survived 😢
SOOOO glad your watching the whole series. People always stop at the first one. The others may not be top tier or deep, but they are still fun to watch. Especially since these felt more like "straight to DVD!" sequels.
Robocop 2 is terrific fun and still all sorts of gory and over the top. 3 is just not good. It has some interesting ideas, but having lost Petter Wellers and the whole PG-13 move just ruined the "feel" of the movie. Of course, having a $15 budget didn't help either lol
33:56 That Terrible CG face WORKED back in the day I remember the first time I saw it our minds were blown it was so "real" keep in mind this is still new we just got 16bit and this guy is pushing an impossible 64 bits and it has 3-axis.
Robocop 2 was one of the first R Rated movie that was under heavy scrutiny for a particular reason. critics and parents were under the impression this movie was designed for kids to be able to comfortably watch it and be entertained, they were not impressed by the sizable number of kids swearing and committing crimes in this movie. they also think this is why the violence was considerably toned down compared to the first, there is more humour and the anti-drug message sprinkled throughout courtesy of Reaganomics.
I love how during the end at the Delta City presentation when they reveal Robocop 2 the mayor is shocked that OCP did it. Like..... are there multiple organizations in Detroit with killer robots?
I love all the RoboCop stuff even the stuff with extra cheese but if you want more of the Robo and family you'll have to see the live tv show they delve more into that aspect. Great reaction as usual guys. :)
Robocop 2 was a step below the first one, but then they clearly thought they weren't going downhill fast enough and made Robocop 3. I can watch the first two anytime, but damn ... that third one.
Everything you want to see in a robocop movie like dealing with AI ,humanity, and better effects are done in the robocop remake , I personally luv it and I know alot did not but I honestly think you two will. Give it a shot 😊
It's not a critique of capitalism but a warning of government corporatism where the corporation buys the government and that not capitalism that's corporate cronyist socialism. Kinda like Amazon controlling most web servers and then essentially becoming a government/corporate entity
I can’t believe you guys didn’t notice a young Frank Miller writer of the Dark Knight Returns, Batman: Year One, and this movie, as the chemist working for Cain @27:38 and @29:02
The best of the Robocop sequels. Also it's the final film to be directed by Irwin Kershner (Star Wars:Episode V-The Empire Strikes Back in 1980 and the James Bond remake, 'Never Say Never Again' in 1983). Plus it's the first of the 2 sequels with comic industry legend, Frank Miller as screenwriter and he played Cain's head lab scientist. This one really felt like a comic come to life. So many stakes and awesomeness. A lot was cut out of the scripts for the sequels (mostly from Miller). But it was re-utilized in Avatar Press' RoboCop (2003-2006) comic series with Miller's name on it. The Arcade scene had a bunch of games from Data East. Robocop 1 and 2 were made into games by the same company. Robocop 3 is the most hated of the trilogy. Because of it's lowered quality, it feels more like a tv movie than theatrical feature. RIP to Galyn Görg as Angie, Cain's girlfriend.
I’d actually be really curious to see you guys react to the 2014 RoboCop Remake with Joel Kinnaman lol. I know it’s not as good the original but I remember it having a well known cast and some cool stuff. It also focused a lot more on murphy’s family like what you guys were talking about
Well known cast doesn't mean it's good. Robocop 2014 was crap. I mean it was rated PG 13 for crying out loud and the Robocop movies were always known for being very violent.
Im the first person you see taking Nuke. The guy with the mohawk right as it fades to the street scene out of the newscast. Shot in Houston November 1989.
You probably heard some bad stuff about the 2014 RoboCop Remake, but I think you should check it out anyways. You guys mentioned how interesting you found the theme of Murphy reconnecting with his family and the inner human vs machine conflict. The Remake actually focuses more on those themes, about how Murphy struggles with what he has become, his family wanting him back and then the corporation wanting him to act more like a machine. Yeah it still has this cheesy Marvelesque Super-Hero-Movie character, which makes you upset if you compare it with the original, but theres also some godd stuff in it and I didn't found it as bad as many people say it is.
Thanks for the reaction. Great video. I enjoyed Robocop 2 back in the day. Even though the first one was a lot darker in tone, more cynical and satirical. They still got some of it here (the commercials for example). This one here had one or two too goofy scenes for me. But overall still a strong sequel. And for the time pretty violent and gory. Tom Noonan for me stole the show, he was great as Cain here. He's also very good in the original "Manhunter" as Francis Dollarhyde.
Well if you seen the Die Hard films, maybe the Die Hard-like movies: Die Hard on a bus (Speed), boat (Speed 2 & Under Seige), train (Under Seige 2), and Plane (Executive Decision & Air Force One). If you want weird or questionable comic book/strip movies of 80s & 90s: Howard the Duck, Supergirl, Popeye, Sheena 1984, Tank Girl, Darkman, Dick Tracy, and Mystery Men. (Some are guilty pleasures and others are actually good.) Other movies that might be fun to watch: Maximum Overdrive, Running Man, Total Recall, Soldier, Tremors, etc. Whatever you guys do, we will all be there enjoying your reactions. Keep up the great work.
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I recommend "Interceptor - Phantom der Ewigkeit" English title "The Wraith" with Charlie Sheen and "Mad Max I - III". Tina Turner stars in "Mad Max III - Jenseits der Donnerkuppel (Beyond Thunderdome)" and also contributed the soundtrack with "We don't need another hero".
THIS MOVIE ROCKS! Phil Tippett, god bless him, did an outstanding job with the stop motion animation sequences. This was his last film to do stop motion animation as he was hired by Steven Spielberg to do VFX on a little movie called JURASSIC PARK.
He got thin.... Hope you are in good health, brother... I lost 70 pounds a while back and people said the same thing to me lols.. NOT trying to troll... Notifications for this channel have not been appearing in my feed, so it has been a while.. good to be back!
Did the Old Man and Donald Johnson remind you of Mr Burns and Smithers? And did you recognize Nancy Allen from when she played Chris Hargenson in Carrie.
You kind of hit the nail on the head when you commented on the fact that this movie was made by a large corporation and the movie is trying to make a statement about how greedy large corporations are greedy plus they were trying to make this statement in a sequel.
While not nearly as iconic and gritty as the first one, the movie did hold up decently. The movie is ironic since it is tamer, and that was one of the main things robocop had to deal with. Also yes... I had a battle damaged robocop toy.
The problem with such complex filmes is that often the most important message gets lost due to one's ignorance. In this case, your ignorance, guys. Not in a single moment the movie blatantly points out that the problem is "capitalism" per say, and people wrongfully conflate capitalism with corporatism (which according to most economists of the Austrian school, it is the corrupted alliance or merging of government and corporations). That is the theme throughout both movies and the most criticized thing in both Robocop 1 and 2. Capitalism always meant free trade, and got its bad connotation due to the undergoing cultural war that has been going on forever. But it only takes one to check old books and respected economists from the past (Rothbard, thomas sowell, Milton Friedman, Ludwig von Mises) to see that Capitalism is referred to as nothing but "free trade." There's no government and no control. Just the voluntary act of trading with someone when both agree on doing so. Although Robocop 2 is not the greatest movie, it goes all the way in complaining about corporatism, hinting that this is how fascism works. And they are not wrong. You guys mentioned that there was something connecting bad guys from WWII to private cities, but that couldn't be further from the truth. The only people allowed to do business in Germany at that time were those authorized by the Government. However, the biggest companies would gladly ally themselves with fascist governments to have no competition. Did you ever read about the Berlim wall? Which side was the one that was desperate to join the other? Remind me again. That level of control and no accountability, that kind of oppression, that lack of liberty for the common citizen... That is the issue, and that often happens in Social Democracies, Socialists, and, obviously, communist countries. It also happens in countries that adhere to State Capitalism and Fabian Socialism, which is designed to keep people poor while corporations thrive. As someone who lives in Latin America, I'm constantly scared of something like that happening here specifically because of how much governments control the market. Maybe studying a bit about these subjects and revisiting this review would be a good idea. Class is over.
I remember seeing Cain's horror stricken face as a metaphor for him going to hell. Just seeing your brain being smashed in front of you, well, he got what he deserved.
I just realised how ahead of its time it is "sorry only TV and media" they could put a spin on it while ocp get exposure for "rejuvenating" the city. You had me nodding and laughing along with your critique.😅
I remember one of the reviews at the time declaring it as a ‘Tale of Two Scripts’ , lamenting Frank Miller’s demise as signaling the death knell of the script. Backstory, according to Miller, was a desire to explore Murphy’s relationship with his wife and humanity more and that it was decided to lean so heavily into the ‘comicbooky’ battle of robots.
My personal feelings on each film: Robocop: The near-perfect one Robocop 2: The weird one Robocop 3: The terrible one Robocop Reboot: The forgettable one.
I pogo back and forth on this. About a third of Robocop 2 is sincere sequel with some actual "whoa" moments, like the "to honor him" bit. But the rest is soulless franchise fishing, hack imitation, and trial balloons for toy lines.
yes, Peter Weller and Nancy Allen returned because of the Frank Millar script but then Orion pictures butchered it going against input from Miller, Kershner and the actors so all of them have distanced themselves from the "finished" product. Frank Miller's original screenplay for RoboCop 2 was turned into a nine-part comic book series titled Frank Miller's RoboCop if you want to see what it was supposed to be.
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Have you ever watched 2014? RoboCop
Dead or alive you're watching with me
RoboCop has a dynasty of comics.
I already named one in the other comments.
Here's the other 5:
Marvel Comics (1990-1992), plus adaptations of the first two films.
Frank Miller's RoboCop versus The Terminator from Dark Horse Comics (1992) which became a video game in 1993.
Dark Horse Comics, (1992-1994), 13 issues plus adaptation of RoboCop 3.
Dynamite Entertainment, (2009-2013), 14 issues.
Boom! Studios (2013-2016), 34 issues.
As for the third one just skip it. Also there is Frank Miller's Robocop comic book. The story was made out of unused Robocop 2 script which was at the time unfilmable
Watching Robocop 3 is a must, don't short yourselves or us on viewing it, that way the viewing the remake would be worth it. I think the rollercoaster ride y'all felt on Robocop 2, you'll have that but it'll be much more fun in Robocop 3. Also, quick note on the drug Nuke in Robocop 2, I didn't pick this up before, but it was the action one would take during the commercial for the war board game in the 1st movie.
Fun fact: When RoboCain "broke" the actress' neck, it looked so real when she landed, the entire cast stopped and thought she was really dead. She was perfectly fine, though, as being a dancer made her extremely limber.
I remember reading about that; the cast, crew, and director were alarmed at the way she landed and rushed to see if she was okay because, as you mentioned, they thought she was actually dead. However, she got up and showed that she was perfectly fine LOL!
Also, their freak-out reaction to her landing scared her into thinking that she had actually hurt herself and that's when she go up, kinda panicked herself, to ask where she was injured!
That scene always freaked me out as a kid.
i also heard that when they shot the scene where the arm grabs her, they were wondering how they could get the stop motion effect without her moving. not sure how long they shot the scene, but she didn't move the whole time and got the effect they wanted. she was good.
That's so funny! 🤣🤣🤣
The blue finish on his suit was a deliberate choice because in the first film the camera kept reflecting on the suit so they opted for a bluer finish.
It changed nothing. They find a solution anyway in the first movie even with the grey finish. They change the color mainly because they wanted a more friendly image, more "toy" appearance for a younger audience.
I read that they tinted it more blue to make him look more "Cop-like," like the blue uniforms most officers wear. No clue how true this is, though. 🤷♂
The blue tint he has makes it look like his armor is blued steel. Bluing is a way of finishing steel that gives it that kind of blue look. You see it a lot in firearms. So I'd argue the blue tint actually makes him look less toy like and a bit less space age.
@Furyswildmeat well that doesn’t contradict what I said. In the first film the camera would keep reflecting the camera so when they had the chance to use the other finish they went for it.
@@Furlugemy 1911 is blue steel and it doesn't look blue at all, more like very dark grey
Every time I see police drive by with sirens blaring, I think of this movie, "They're going to kick someone's ass!"
Y'all ought to do Demolition Man (1993) with Sylvester Stallone and Wesley Snipes. It's such a fun time! 🧡
Everybody knows Burger King would have won the fast food wars of San Angeles. 🤪
I watched that again recently! haha
YESS!!!! THIS!!!! such a good movie one of my favorites
Agreed!... and Chris chan ruined G Fuel for me. XD Knowing what does with other orange based drinks. XD
Yes... you guys NEED to see that. Putting Rocky and Rambo aside, Demolition Man and Cop Land are Stallone's best films (also Lock-Up... a smaller, but strong film)
In Robocop 3 the production values were so dismal that in the final act when Robocop flies you can see the blue wires that he's hanging from.
The whole thing has metaphorical strings, terrible movie. Not even so bad it's funny.
It's so bad it is a disgrace to the whole franchise. They should've left the thing go after this second film.
@@SimoExMachina2 It's better than the godawful TV series and made in Vancouver mini series.
@@alucard624 Bunny doo is less shitty than bear crap, but it is still just fecis.
Still better than this movie. Honestly the kid being the drug lord boss and robo 2 being an addict it's dumber than ninja cyborgs and the jetpack from 3.
You guys are right... the script, the 'idea' is much like the original film... BUT, the studio wanted to make it more commercial, flashy and Batman Forever-ish, sell toys to kids etc. etc. After this is Robocop 3 which goes PG-13 (1 and 2 are R) and complete drops the crazy violence, clever 'soul' of the original.
toys? But there's never really even been RoboCain toys despite fan demand. :(
@@carn9507 Kenner Robocop toys come out in 1989 and ran thru the 90s
@@carn9507 There was also a cartoon show
Also Robocop the series live action kids show. Robocop stops crime without actually shooting bad guys its super corny but decent enough to watch. All different actors that are worse but not terrible
Robocop 2 came out years before Bat-Man Forever, how could they have wanted to make it "Batman Forever-ish"?
Fun facts:
Peter actually returned to play Robocop in MK11, and he’s also reprising his role in an upcoming video game that is supposedly either meant to be a direct sequel to 1 or 2.
Speaking of sequels, a direct sequel is reportedly in the works, with Peter also returning. Though, who knows if it’s still going to happen, after the writers strike.
He VOs in the just release Rogue City and that is really good. It is basically a sequel to 2 and ignores 3 existed.
Yeah the game is set after the second movie if I’m not mistaken, I haven’t played it yet.
The game is great.
If you watch 3 you will learn a whole appreciation for this one.
Totally, when they see Robocop 3, they will regret having destroyed Robocop 2 in their review. Robocop 2 next to Robocop 3 is a masterpiece, hahaha!
Doesn't negate that RoboCop 2 is, overall, a letdown.
Respectfully disagree. @@jediknightgeo
I honestly feel like while it's a worse movie, overall robocop 3 is more fun than 2. I have a better time watching it for entertainment value. I mean, he gets a big upgrade and gets to fight a fun bad guy. I don't want to spoil it but I feel like doing so is a selling point to watch it lol
I loved that the last reaction was nothing but praise and a genuine critique of the themes and world, until the last 30 seconds with Dick falling out the window with “outstretched” arms. Looking forward to this one 😂❤❤❤❤❤❤
Check out Frank Miller's Robocop comic run (2003) - it was adapted from the original screenplay Miller did for Robocop 2 (there's a lot more of Murphy's family & history)
True. But that’s also the problem with Frank’s script! He doesn’t delve into as much you think and he shoves way too much into the script to where it feels bloated too.
It’s certainly not all his fault, it’s clear they had a lot of Ideas for this film that really hurts. But I still love this film!
I would watch Adam Savages interview with the animatronics creator (dunno if there is a documentery on it). The model is so insane.
one of the greatest maquettes ever, so rad : D
Coy you're absolutely right. I had the battle damaged Robocop. You could take off the regular chest plate and helmet and swap them for the ones with the bullet holes. It even had the retractable USB spike thing.
I had the exact same action figure back in the day
it's called a data spike 👍🏾😊
I had ed 209 which had those red cap straps that cap guns used. There was this hammer you'd pull back and release to set the caps off.
Interesting factoid: the kid who played the little shit in this movie was also the first voice of Littlefoot in the Land Before Time film series.
😲
A sad factoid: the land before time was the last movie the girl who played ducky did before being murdered.
@@kylew6635by her father
Wasn’t he also in The Mighty Ducks movie?
I recognized him from that episode of Star Trek the next generation where Worf bonds with him after his mom gets killed on an away mission.
To those upset about the afamily plot getting concluded, the game coming out Robocop: Rogue City is set after the 2nd movie and supposedly delves much deeper into the murphy family
That second RobiCop 2 prototype...when my brother and I first saw this movie as kids, we were screaming with laughter when it took its own helmet off. Glad to see you guys thought it was just as funny as we did.
The stop motion work of Kane remains top notch to this very day!
Despite being dismantled and reprogrammed, the returning cyborg policeman is still more than just the sum of HIS parts, cleaning up and saving the streets of Detroit!!!!!
At 21:37, the guy says "These are death-row inmates!". The picture on the screen is Irvin Kershner, Director of Empire Strikes Back, Never Say Never Again, and a bunch of other films, including Robocop 2.
I was always disappointed that this movie never delved deeper into the subplot with Murphy and his family. But instead it just gets brushed aside for the comic book story of him fighting Cain.
That is true! There was ALOT shoved into this film! And sadly this film never got to explore Murphy, or settle his yearning for his family. Had they placed his wife somewhere after Caine’s Arrest.
My favorite line from this was him telling the 2 Robocops to “BEHAVE YOURSELF!” 😂
Paul Verhoeven _did_ release a movie in 1990, and it was _Total Recall_ . You should definitely see it.
Literal spit-take at Greg's Mars Attacks! Martian impression. As for Robocop 3, it's gotta be done to complete the story, or for the sheer pleasure of watching Bradley Whitford, CCH Pounder and Rip Torn if for no other reason. Watching you guys react is pure joy and more so when the movie doesn't quite deliver 🤣
I love this movie, mostly for nostalgic reasons. I have a cousin who lived several states away at the time, but he was able to come over and visit for a week during the summer this movie came out. We were barely teenagers, but we absolutely loved the first Robocop and we convinced our moms to take us to the theater to see this one. At the time, we thought it was amazing, but now looking at it through an adult's perspective, we definitely see the flaws. I think it would've been a lot better if they used the scene with Robocop talking to his former wife and made that the very last scene of the film. And a couple of other tweaks here and there, but I won't get into that here.
i still very weirdly prefer the 2nd to the 1st - possibly because i saw the former first. Was the first time i had seen a movie with this amount of violence and was kinda sensory overload. The warehouse scene where you are introduced to Kane Robocop always scared the hell out of me.
I just love when they say "don't you have bazookas?" to the cops! and I'm like "is it really normal for law enforcement to have anti armored vehicle RPGs made for warfare?!!" :))
Indeed. I don't think police in general need firepower capable of taking down a tank or an armored vehicle as in most Western countries the chances for a cop to run into someone driving these are really small.
@@TheDutchGhost yup, tbh unless a country is in an active full on military coup or civil war, the chance for cops to encounter armored vehicles is close to zero in any country on the globe!
@@SilverViper219 And by the time cops would run into armored vehicles driven by criminals or agressors it would be way above their capacity to handle.
When I first saw this movie when it came out in the theater I thought it was alright and nothing special. Over the years I started to appreciate it more as a good solid film. The first one is better but part 2 is a worthy sequel.
“Worthy sequel.”
That’s certainly one opinion lol.
I like Robocop 2, it is a worthy sequel without obviously surpassing the original, I compare it in that sense to Predator 2, another one that received mixed reviews, but it was good, it wasn't that bad, it had its good moments.
@@masamune2984 Robocop 3 is much worse in every way, poor script, poor production, the violence was washed out a lot to make a movie for the whole family, the irony no longer exists, at least Robocop 2 tried to maintain all that, that's why For me, despite its flaws, it is still a worthy sequel,
39:49 - Really guys?
Don't care what people say, I like this movie flaws and all. I also attribute the final fight to getting me interested in mecha anime
If you get the chance, the new Robocop game is fantastic, and Peter Weller returns for the voice.
The villain from this movie was also the villain in "Last Action Hero," with Arnold Schwarzenegger." If any chance you haven't watched it, you really should!
Thought you were confusing the CEO actor with the one who played the mob boss or something at first until I realized you meant Kane and the Raincoat axe man from “Jack Slater 3” in Last Action Hero. 🤷♂️
Now you have to watch number 3, just so we can see how you react to it. I remember the series being good, but I haven't watched it since it first aired when I was a kid, but Prime Directives is a four part Mini-Series that, while having it's "cheesy" bits; is great. The actor does a great job of portraying Robocop and Murphy (as in he plays pre Robocop Murphy in flashbacks), and it's definitely an experience you won't regret having...
Yeah, Part 2 isn't on the same level as 1, but it's still a good time and a pretty fun flick overall. Definitely the earliest movie in my memory where it became clear someone stepped in and changed the direction of the plot though.
Part 3... honestly it swings into "so bad it's good" territory for me. lmao
Awesome to see you guys get excited about this.. when I first saw this as a teenager, Robocop was like the tippy top most anticipated movie.. including the sequels. Well at least the first sequel..
Coy is doing an excellent job taking the lead on the intro! Good on him. And love ya too, Greg lol
hardly anybody is watching "wheel of time", but coy seems to be following the trajectory of the lead actor who started as a curly-haired ginger and opted to be a shaved head ginger for the second season. 😄
@vinsanity40k its called balding dude
Guys did you know that the no smoking bit was used in cinemas to stop people smoking 😅
So this movie was originally written by frank miller, but many changes were made to make it more adaptable to film.
He turned his original script into a comic book that is infamous.
The only part I didn’t like about this movie is they set up the idea of Robocops identity and feeling human and then kinda just forget about it. You don’t see his wife again and it’s like they forgot half way through the movie what they set up. Also I’m kinda pissed the music is different, I loved the theme from the first film, noticeably absent this film
I actually owned a Robocop action figure w/ jetpack and noises 😊
Yeah, I was suckered into the merchandising from the movies 😅 Couldn't find a Clarence Bodicker figure, though 🤔
They never made clarence or Cain and I was always pissed lol.. and i could never find ED209 (260) unfortunately but I had "headhunter" tho whoever the f*ck that is 😂
One thing about most reactions on old movies, 90s and prior is that they are being scrutinized with modern eyes, with the modern era, but imagine watching these films in the context of the times they were created, they were literally mind blowing, some called masterpieces. It’s just more than a reaction but more of understanding the film and transporting yourself to those times, only then you will set apart a good critique.
If you guys like Robocop, you should really consider checking out Robot Jox. The setting is completely different, but it has an overall similar feel and tone when it comes to the world. Admittedly, the middle of the movie suffers from a pacing slowdown that hinders it, but overall, it's a lot of fun with some wacky performances.
There are two other movies that are sometimes called sequels: Robot Wars (about the last giant robot being hijacked by bad guys) and Robo Warriors (basically same as Robot Jox but against aliens)
Damn that Robot Jox is a deep cut. its the pacific rim of the 80 's hahaha!
There is an Adam Savage video where he talks to Phil Tippett the stop motion guy all about Robocop 2 and they had some Cain Robo props there. I love RB2, yeah it doesnt have the 'soul' of RB1 but the Robo carnage is awesome! :D
I once had a nightmare that Robocop2 was after me, watching this reaction brought it back to me! :o
Let me guess. The charge up the elevator shaft?
@@crazyman7671 Kinda like that, but he could burrow under ground and pop up anywhere, no way to escape kinda vibe :o
Frank Miller couldn't comprehend Verhoeven's sophisticated satire or vision, and it's painfully obvious.
- Watch the reboot before you watch the 3rd one. In fact, don’t watch the 3rd one at all! 😅 It’s not so bad it’s good; it genuinely sullies the first two.
- I like how the secret foot clan arcade from TMNT makes its way into this movie 😂
- If you electrocute someone in your car, your car’s gonna smell like ASS for a number of reasons 🤢😄
- Robocop being FORCED to say “I’m free”… it’s HAUNTING. Delisciuos irony… I get why Weller signed up for this sequel. (PS… I typed this last part a MINUTE before Koy said it 😮)
- The NOT SMOKING thing WAS a meme if it’s time. Theaters actually used it as a pre-movie PSA
- NO way that bartender stunt guy survived 😢
The Irvin Kershner goodness with a really great Leonard Rosenman film score.
SOOOO glad your watching the whole series. People always stop at the first one. The others may not be top tier or deep, but they are still fun to watch. Especially since these felt more like "straight to DVD!" sequels.
Robocop 2 is terrific fun and still all sorts of gory and over the top. 3 is just not good. It has some interesting ideas, but having lost Petter Wellers and the whole PG-13 move just ruined the "feel" of the movie. Of course, having a $15 budget didn't help either lol
@@LordLOC Agreed, while not as good as the first one, I still enjoy this one.
33:56 That Terrible CG face WORKED back in the day I remember the first time I saw it our minds were blown it was so "real" keep in mind this is still new we just got 16bit and this guy is pushing an impossible 64 bits and it has 3-axis.
Done by the great Peter Kuran.
Robocop 2 was one of the first R Rated movie that was under heavy scrutiny for a particular reason. critics and parents were under the impression this movie was designed for kids to be able to comfortably watch it and be entertained, they were not impressed by the sizable number of kids swearing and committing crimes in this movie. they also think this is why the violence was considerably toned down compared to the first, there is more humour and the anti-drug message sprinkled throughout courtesy of Reaganomics.
Who in their right mind would think that RoboCop 2 would be designed for kids? Especially after RoboCop 1?
@@jediknightgeoit’s how it was marketed…They released the RoboCop toys in conjunction with this movie… the toys didn’t do well… but they tried.
I love how during the end at the Delta City presentation when they reveal Robocop 2 the mayor is shocked that OCP did it.
Like..... are there multiple organizations in Detroit with killer robots?
I love all the RoboCop stuff even the stuff with extra cheese but if you want more of the Robo and family you'll have to see the live tv show they delve more into that aspect.
Great reaction as usual guys. :)
Robocop 2 was a step below the first one, but then they clearly thought they weren't going downhill fast enough and made Robocop 3.
I can watch the first two anytime, but damn ... that third one.
Everything you want to see in a robocop movie like dealing with AI ,humanity, and better effects are done in the robocop remake , I personally luv it and I know alot did not but I honestly think you two will. Give it a shot 😊
It's not a critique of capitalism but a warning of government corporatism where the corporation buys the government and that not capitalism that's corporate cronyist socialism. Kinda like Amazon controlling most web servers and then essentially becoming a government/corporate entity
I can’t believe you guys didn’t notice a young Frank Miller writer of the Dark Knight Returns, Batman: Year One, and this movie, as the chemist working for Cain @27:38 and @29:02
Why would they? Neither of them read comics in the 80s or 90s.
You guys went into this with preconceived ideas and once you got into it, it clicked. Bravo gents .
The whole plot storyline with him trying to reconnect with his family is my favorite part of the sequel. That's a nice character study.
I really wish they focused on that. Have his wife and son be lead characters with Murphy and you get to see that struggle through all three acts.
@@TheUltraYusuf Agreed.
The 2014 film did an amazing job of focusing on that.
@@Brook11223 I agree with you about the 2014. There's not a lot I liked but from what I remember it really did hit on the emotional beats well.
Robocop 2 was still infinitely better than 3 or the 2014 remake.
The best of the Robocop sequels.
Also it's the final film to be directed by Irwin Kershner (Star Wars:Episode V-The Empire Strikes Back in 1980 and the James Bond remake, 'Never Say Never Again' in 1983).
Plus it's the first of the 2 sequels with comic industry legend, Frank Miller as screenwriter and he played Cain's head lab scientist.
This one really felt like a comic come to life.
So many stakes and awesomeness.
A lot was cut out of the scripts for the sequels (mostly from Miller).
But it was re-utilized in Avatar Press' RoboCop (2003-2006) comic series with Miller's name on it.
The Arcade scene had a bunch of games from Data East.
Robocop 1 and 2 were made into games by the same company.
Robocop 3 is the most hated of the trilogy.
Because of it's lowered quality, it feels more like a tv movie than theatrical feature.
RIP to Galyn Görg as Angie, Cain's girlfriend.
Sad fact this movie is even better than most MCU movies from phase 4.
I’d actually be really curious to see you guys react to the 2014 RoboCop Remake with Joel Kinnaman lol. I know it’s not as good the original but I remember it having a well known cast and some cool stuff. It also focused a lot more on murphy’s family like what you guys were talking about
I always thought of it as a alternative universe if you think about it that way it helps you like it a little more
Well known cast doesn't mean it's good.
Robocop 2014 was crap. I mean it was rated PG 13 for crying out loud and the Robocop movies were always known for being very violent.
Kidpin is a hilarious nickname and concept lol
Im the first person you see taking Nuke. The guy with the mohawk right as it fades to the street scene out of the newscast.
Shot in Houston November 1989.
OCP still using full magazines of live ammo for demonstrations. I'm sure its just a glitch.
Just reading the production history of the movie you can see how the rush and studio control lead to alot of the issues you see on screen.
You probably heard some bad stuff about the 2014 RoboCop Remake, but I think you should check it out anyways. You guys mentioned how interesting you found the theme of Murphy reconnecting with his family and the inner human vs machine conflict. The Remake actually focuses more on those themes, about how Murphy struggles with what he has become, his family wanting him back and then the corporation wanting him to act more like a machine.
Yeah it still has this cheesy Marvelesque Super-Hero-Movie character, which makes you upset if you compare it with the original, but theres also some godd stuff in it and I didn't found it as bad as many people say it is.
it's not a bad movie at all, it just can't compare to the single greatest peice of media ever created that is the original
It's not really good either
Cop death gives a whole new definition to “snitches get stitches” lol
Yeah the 3rd movie makes even Robo Cop 2 look good 😅
Murphy’s wife enters the story…
“Not going to lie, guys, I love this plot idea!”
Well kiss it goodbye, it lasts all of 5 minutes 😂
Thanks for the reaction. Great video. I enjoyed Robocop 2 back in the day. Even though the first one was a lot darker in tone, more cynical and satirical. They still got some of it here (the commercials for example). This one here had one or two too goofy scenes for me. But overall still a strong sequel. And for the time pretty violent and gory. Tom Noonan for me stole the show, he was great as Cain here. He's also very good in the original "Manhunter" as Francis Dollarhyde.
Well if you seen the Die Hard films, maybe the Die Hard-like movies: Die Hard on a bus (Speed), boat (Speed 2 & Under Seige), train (Under Seige 2), and Plane (Executive Decision & Air Force One).
If you want weird or questionable comic book/strip movies of 80s & 90s: Howard the Duck, Supergirl, Popeye, Sheena 1984, Tank Girl, Darkman, Dick Tracy, and Mystery Men. (Some are guilty pleasures and others are actually good.)
Other movies that might be fun to watch: Maximum Overdrive, Running Man, Total Recall, Soldier, Tremors, etc.
Whatever you guys do, we will all be there enjoying your reactions. Keep up the great work.
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30:11 What I'm assuming is the reflection of a telephone pole or something looks like the devil's pitchfork. Fitting for Cain.
Oh yeah I have to mention. Frank Millers original script for this film was produced into a Robocop comic. It’s really good
I recommend "Interceptor - Phantom der Ewigkeit" English title "The Wraith" with Charlie Sheen and "Mad Max I - III". Tina Turner stars in "Mad Max III - Jenseits der Donnerkuppel (Beyond Thunderdome)" and also contributed the soundtrack with "We don't need another hero".
THIS MOVIE ROCKS!
Phil Tippett, god bless him, did an outstanding job with the stop motion animation sequences. This was his last film to do stop motion animation as he was hired by Steven Spielberg to do VFX on a little movie called JURASSIC PARK.
He got thin.... Hope you are in good health, brother... I lost 70 pounds a while back and people said the same thing to me lols.. NOT trying to troll... Notifications for this channel have not been appearing in my feed, so it has been a while.. good to be back!
Not as great as the first one but your guys reaction made it’s worth watching again haha
Here’s a fun fact, after Robocop 3, they have 2 more movies called Robocop Prime Directives, then a modern remake.
Loving the Robocop reactions. The sequels are very underrated imo. Some would disagree but thank you Coy and greg for another awesome video.
Did the Old Man and Donald Johnson remind you of Mr Burns and Smithers? And did you recognize Nancy Allen from when she played Chris Hargenson in Carrie.
“This is how we got to trump” seriously?
Frank Miller is actually "Frank the Chemist" in the movie!
Did you guys miss that Frank Miller played the scientist in Kanes lab
You kind of hit the nail on the head when you commented on the fact that this movie was made by a large corporation and the movie is trying to make a statement about how greedy large corporations are greedy plus they were trying to make this statement in a sequel.
While not nearly as iconic and gritty as the first one, the movie did hold up decently.
The movie is ironic since it is tamer, and that was one of the main things robocop had to deal with.
Also yes... I had a battle damaged robocop toy.
The reprograming of Robocop is what happens when Karens are in charge.
Great Reaction Greg and Coy! This movie is definitely not as good as the first movie! 👍
It is however it's the third movie that doesn't hold a candle to the previous two.
The problem with such complex filmes is that often the most important message gets lost due to one's ignorance. In this case, your ignorance, guys.
Not in a single moment the movie blatantly points out that the problem is "capitalism" per say, and people wrongfully conflate capitalism with corporatism (which according to most economists of the Austrian school, it is the corrupted alliance or merging of government and corporations). That is the theme throughout both movies and the most criticized thing in both Robocop 1 and 2.
Capitalism always meant free trade, and got its bad connotation due to the undergoing cultural war that has been going on forever.
But it only takes one to check old books and respected economists from the past (Rothbard, thomas sowell, Milton Friedman, Ludwig von Mises) to see that Capitalism is referred to as nothing but "free trade." There's no government and no control. Just the voluntary act of trading with someone when both agree on doing so.
Although Robocop 2 is not the greatest movie, it goes all the way in complaining about corporatism, hinting that this is how fascism works. And they are not wrong. You guys mentioned that there was something connecting bad guys from WWII to private cities, but that couldn't be further from the truth. The only people allowed to do business in Germany at that time were those authorized by the Government. However, the biggest companies would gladly ally themselves with fascist governments to have no competition.
Did you ever read about the Berlim wall? Which side was the one that was desperate to join the other? Remind me again.
That level of control and no accountability, that kind of oppression, that lack of liberty for the common citizen... That is the issue, and that often happens in Social Democracies, Socialists, and, obviously, communist countries. It also happens in countries that adhere to State Capitalism and Fabian Socialism, which is designed to keep people poor while corporations thrive.
As someone who lives in Latin America, I'm constantly scared of something like that happening here specifically because of how much governments control the market.
Maybe studying a bit about these subjects and revisiting this review would be a good idea.
Class is over.
You should checkout Peter Weller in 24 season 5 and Longmire where he directed the episodes of Longmire and he is great in both shows.
His one episode in Fringe season 2 "White Tulip" is also pretty good
I remember seeing Cain's horror stricken face as a metaphor for him going to hell. Just seeing your brain being smashed in front of you, well, he got what he deserved.
I just realised how ahead of its time it is "sorry only TV and media" they could put a spin on it while ocp get exposure for "rejuvenating" the city. You had me nodding and laughing along with your critique.😅
I just starting watching "it's always sunny" and I found a young Greg Alba on the 3rd episode of season 1😂
I remember one of the reviews at the time declaring it as a ‘Tale of Two Scripts’ , lamenting Frank Miller’s demise as signaling the death knell of the script. Backstory, according to Miller, was a desire to explore Murphy’s relationship with his wife and humanity more and that it was decided to lean so heavily into the ‘comicbooky’ battle of robots.
My personal feelings on each film:
Robocop: The near-perfect one
Robocop 2: The weird one
Robocop 3: The terrible one
Robocop Reboot: The forgettable one.
I pogo back and forth on this. About a third of Robocop 2 is sincere sequel with some actual "whoa" moments, like the "to honor him" bit. But the rest is soulless franchise fishing, hack imitation, and trial balloons for toy lines.
The first one is classic but I always liked this movie. The Kain robot is terrifying.
This one is still great, and I love the new main theme in this one too. The third is objectively bad, but as a 10 year old I loved it 😂
Much love too Dr.Peter Weller, Nancy Allen, and Tom Noonan. Most of all big praise to Frank Miller😎👍
yes, Peter Weller and Nancy Allen returned because of the Frank Millar script but then Orion pictures butchered it going against input from Miller, Kershner and the actors so all of them have distanced themselves from the "finished" product. Frank Miller's original screenplay for RoboCop 2 was turned into a nine-part comic book series titled Frank Miller's RoboCop if you want to see what it was supposed to be.
Unfortunately the comic is very bad as well. It's all the bad parts of Miller's writing with none of the good.