Between her begging Murphy to put his hideous face back under a helmet and him begging Robocop to kill kids, this might just be the funniest reaction you both have done. 🤣🤣
Without being better than the first, it is a decent sequel and quite rebellious, politically incorrect, it reminds me of Predator 2, which is also not better than the original but it is the best sequel in the saga
@@javix2013 Yeah, while it doesn't quite reach the satirical uber-violent heights of the first it's quite good for what it is. Especially when compared to the final shitty pg-13 entry.
Fun fact the scientist at 21:05 is actually Frank Miller. The guy who wrote the script and one of the most influential comic book writers of the 80s and 90s, his works include Daredevil, The Dark Knight Returns and 300.
He did some good work but I think his legend status is a little overblown. He became famous for turning the Daredevil title around by going way darker and grittier with it and turning a failing title at the time into one of the best sellers. But he basically just kept trying to use that same formula in everything he did from that point on. Just taking an already existing IP and going dark with it. Sometimes and it worked and sometimes it really didn't. He's done some really awful shit as well.
Fun fact. The Robocop 2/Kane was specifically designed to look like that so that it would be really difficult and expensive to make a toy version. There were so many Chinese knock off action figures from the first movie they made RC2/Kane be so full of little moving parts and very top heavy that only quality made figures would be able to stand up. It also looks really fooking cool.
The documentary "Light and Magic" also explored the work Tippett did in pre-production for "Jurassic Park" before Spielberg and ILM decided to go with making the CGI dinosaurs.
Also, I love the subtle details: Robocop tells his wife that he doesn't know her so she can finally be free and live her life. Whilst Cain kills Angie because if he can't have her, no-one can.
Gotta say, this is the most human Robocop has ever been across the films, given how he's operating without directives telling him what to do after getting shocked and yet he still performs his job faultlessly, that's 100% Murphy no strings attatched.
You should read the novelization because they went even further with his humanity and even depression. The scene where RoboCop encounters his former wife at the police station happens much later in the book. After being told by the lawyers to stay away from her, RoboCop drives to a junkyard to ponder what he has become. "He closed his eyes and daydreamed, seeing himself frozen solid by rust. He envisioned the mighty magnets lifting his long out-modeled, creaky, corroded body toward the conveyor belt. The conveyor accepting the offering without question. The whining, flailing machine nourished itself on Robo's body, tearing it to pieces with rotating, razor-sharp teeth." Fortunately, Lewis arrives to snap RoboCop out of his suicidal thoughts and remind him of who he is.
@@brandonspain12345 Hmmm I did read the comic novelization, it showed a part where Murphy has to essentially lie and say "I'm just wearing his face in his honor, I'm sorry for your loss, Ms. Murphy." Paraphrasing, but if I can find the book, I'll give it a read for sure!
The stop motion was well done and could be legitimately creepy at times. Robocop not being himself adds an element of comedy before the final round against RoboCain escalates to their final showdown. A true classic.
Grew up with this movie, watched it when I was way too young but that is also why it has a special place in my heart. They also dont do movies like this anymore, comedic but also brutal but also taking itself serious to some degree. I mean the topic of corporations taking over entire sectors of public service, even the whole city. Was crazy and bad back in the day and still is.
41:10 "I don't want Robocop to kill a kid" Spent half the movie calling kill the kids! No point trying to hide now 😁 Edit: Haven't seen this in a long time, was fun revisiting it!
Peter Weller (Robocop/Alex Murphy) initially turned down the offer to return for Robocop 2 when he first read the script, but the studio offered him such an obscene amount of money that he literally could not say no.
The Robocop movies were satires on the emerging reality that we now live in: corporations hijacking public services, making law, morality and basic decency subordinate to profit. I'll buy that for a dollar.
Some pretty hilarious riffing from you two on this reaction. And no, you didn't watch a toned down version of Robocop 2. It's just that Robocop 1 (and Paul Verhoeven movies in general) was so ludicrously violent that anything by comparison feels restrained.
I think the vivisection scene is worse than anything in part 1. They're torturing the guy and even the villain's henchmen are uncomfortable with how it plays out (except for the sicko doing the cutting).
@@ryanjacobson2508 - That part has always stuck in my mind, probably for the reasons you cite. Robocop 2 really doesn't really skimp on the R-rated stuff. I guess by comparison, it just lacks the copious volume of blood squibs Verhoven puts in everything, nor does it have any nauseating scenes involving toxic waste.
Just about all of the action movies in the summer of 1990 were R-rated and they really went for it. RoboCop 2, Total Recall, Another 48 Hours, Die Hard 2, The Adventures of Ford Fairlane, Navy SEALS. Lots of over-the-top action and snappy one-liner fun. Even the PG-rated comic book movie "Dick Tracy" got grouped in with some critic's complaints about violence that summer.
Cain watching from the vat as they discuss his empty skull always freaked me out -- not even so much for the visuals, but because you can feel Cain's silent but accelerating descent into insane rage.
I remember my dad taking me and my older brother to go see it in theaters opening weekend back in 1990 when I was 8 years old. For much of my childhood I preferred this one more over the original but as I got older I went back to the original as the best. While this one is not as good as the first one, it is a very underrated sequel. While it seems a tad watered down in the violence compared to the original because Paul Verhoeven did not come back to direct the sequel as he has claimed that he does not do sequels, also he was busy making Total Recall. There’s a blink and you’ll miss it scene of director Irvin Kershner as one of the candidate mugshots for the RoboCop 2 program. Tom Noonan was also in The Last Action Hero as the Ripper. The actor that plays the mayor is Harpo from The Color Purple. The kid is not only the voice of Littlefoot from the original The Land Before Time but he’s also Mel Gibson’s son in Tequila Sunrise. This movie is a lot of fun to watch at best but RoboCop 3 is not worth watching for many reasons. 1) It was watered down to a PG-13 rating and came off as too family friendly. 2) Peter Weller didn’t come back for RoboCop 3 as he was doing Naked Lunch instead so we got a cheesy Robert John Burke replacing Weller. 3) Orion Pictures was already near bankruptcy when RoboCop 2 was released that RoboCop 3 was rushed into production the following year but got shelved for 2 more years before it’s release in 1993. The 2014 remake which was also PG-13 was okay at most but not rememberable but only redeemed by having Samuel L. Jackson in it. Neil Blomkamp was going to make a RoboCop requel in the spirit of the original a few years back, before that got shelved so we may never get to see what’ll come out of that.
You're right about RoboCop 3. Orion found that kids loved RoboCop and wanted to capitalize on that market by making it PG-13, completely missing why kids loved RoboCop so much (which was obviously the over the top violence, blood and gore, it's like they've never been kids themselves). Also, the only good thing about the 2014 remake is that the satire in that movie is on par with the original, but the story is severally lacking. It focusses too much on the philosophical aspect of man versus machine and doesn't have a memorable villain like Clarence Boddicker. What should have been the B-plot of an action movie became the main focus and that really hurt the movie since that action part became, well, a (bad) parody of generic action movies.
Comic book writer Frank Miller (Batman, Daredevil, 300, Sin City) wrote this and has a cameo as the scientist making Nuke. He wanted to make the CEO of OCP the villain because of the way he acted in the first film (the employee gets riddled with bullets by ED 209 and all he says is "I'm very disappointed"). The dismembered Robocop torso was a complete construct by Rob Bottin (The Thing, Total Recall, Se7en). They were so impressed with the facial movements that they wrote a whole new scene with it right on the set. Robocop 2 is such a great piece of stop motion animation. Maybe the last great example of the technique before CGI took over. It was done by Phil Tippet, who was responsible for ED 209 in the first film as well as the AT AT walkers in the original Star Wars movies. He also supervised the CG FX in Starship Troopers. I personally like this movie a lot. Belinda Bauer gives a wonderfully unhinged performance as Dr. Faxx. She's the most memorable villain in the film. Tom Noonan as Cain seems a little subdued most of the time. Dan O'Herlihy is always fun (you should see him in The Last Starfighter, though you won't recognize him until you hear his voice). I remember most critics had problems with the kid using obscenities and doing the violent things he does. They also said it was more violent than the first film. But I don't think that's true. The first film did have better villains with Bodickker and Dick Jones. I think that was the only thing that hurt Robocop 2.
Saw this in the theater when I was WAY too young. Robo Cain scared the hell out of me. My mom sent me not realizing how super violent it was. I never told her he he. As far as I'm concerned, the series ended here.
lol, I remember watching this when it hit video and my buddy's dad renting it for us. We must've been 9 or 10 at the time. Agreed, the series definitely ended here. Part 3 is unwatchable dreck.
Hell, I was 15 when seeing this with my mom and dad in the theater and I thought that Cain was the most awesome but also the most terrifying thing in the movie!
This was the 90s action movies of the big studios, violent, graphic, bloody, savage, irreverent and politically incorrect, to the point that you could see a child shooting guns, killing people and in the drug business. Today the cinema of the big studios has changed its perspective, it is a cinema more suitable for all audiences, because they realized that they were losing audience with that excess of violence.
Yea, the series definitely ended there, because Robocop 3 was sillier, and stupider, than any fan could have ever expected on first viewing, and be ready to leave the theater in disgust less than 10 minutes in. And what they did to Anne, what a disappointment! Anne Lewis was too cool, bad ass, and great of a character to do that to her. Shame.
I also really like the twist that Robocop 2 isn't just a generic sequel name. It's actually the name of the bad guy and you get Robocop vs. Robocop 2 at the end
Unfortunately, the drama and the main arches were substantially cut out. As an example, Murphy's recklessness was part of the arc about his acceptance of himself as a Robocop. At that time, he, like other cyborgs, wanted to die, but his sense of duty did not allow him to simply kill himself, so he wanted to die in battle. It was because it was all cut out that Allen and Weller decided to leave the franchise.
@@franktib There's the workprint version of Robocop 2 online if you look for it. It's got numerous extended and deleted scenes in it and overall it's a better film. Video quality isn't all that great given it's a workprint but it's still worth checking out. Also, the original Basil Poledouris score from the first film is used throughout as a temp music track before the Rosenman score was applied so that's a plus too.
Tom Noonan is also great as the Frankenstein Monster in Monster Squad, which would be a great movie for you guys to watch for October. It was directed by Fred Dekker who also directed Robocop 3. Dekker called Monster Squad his proudest moment as a director...and Robocop 3 ruined his career. 😅
Robocop 3, if it is no longer a good movie, light years away from the first 2, it has much less violence, it is more suitable for all audiences, but I insist, the script and the direction are very weak. In Rotten Tomatoes: Robocop 3, 3%
Tim Miller was hired to direct Robocop 2. He was replaced by Irvin Kershner. Kershner hated Frank Miller's script and he tore up pages. The music score is by the late Leonard Rosenman. They filmed a scene where Robocop finds Alex Murphy's grave.
I always avoided this movie because Paul Verhoeven wasn’t involved and it had really bad reviews. But I’ve always been curious about what it has. And seeing your video really helped me decide it might be worth it just for fun. Also, I don’t think I was really aware that it had all the old cast members back. Thanks guys - great reaction as always.
I always felt that when the old man said "you choose the brain" he was giving the other guy tacit permission to blatantly choose the psychologist. When he drove off in the car with her I suspected he was planning on using her as a scapegoat to protect the company. She was pretty much disposable at this point. One way or another.
This was my favorite of the series. Those facial expressions on the robot is early real-time CGI done with some special gloves (I may be remembering wrong).
They were still using stop motion effects in major blockbusters for quite some years until CGI became more refined. They tended to combine it with other effects techniques. The special effects people from that generation grew up with the effects films of Ray Harryhausen and were in awe of his contribution to movie effects work. He was literally a one man visual effects unit and only worked with a team on his last film Clash o the Titans. He often took over directing duties to direct the visual effects sequences with the actors himself. They even used stop motion in The Empire Strikes Back which was also directed by Irvin Kirshner, the director of Robocop 2. I would strongly suggest at some point just for the sake of film history that you check out a couple of Ray Harryhausen's most famous films. His most popular movies and his most commercially successful were always his mythological films. Jason and the Argonauts and his Sinbad trilogy. The 7th Voyage of Sinbad, The Golden Voyage of Sinbad and Sinbad and the Eye of the Tiger. The Sinbad films can be watched in any order. They're all stand alone adventures and don't follow on from each other. My personal favourite is The Golden Voyage of Sinbad.
My favorite in the RoboCop series, I don't know what it is but there is something about this movie that is amazingly special to me, I first saw it at age 9 on Spike TV before I had even saw the first film.
I don't know how you did it, but you edited this turkey down to a very entertaining half hour. Good choices, great commentary throughout... you two are the best reactors I know. A great pleasure spending this hour with you.
The action scenes in part 2 blow the original out of the water. Of course the first movie has better characters and a better story, but as sheer spectacle the sequel is more impressive.
This is one of the few sequels I actually like. The first Robocop was a violent satire. This one ups the satire more than the violence. I think people expected the a gritty tongue-in-cheek movie like the first. Now the third one. That's absolute trash.
More than the violence? How many kills are there in the first movie? Pretty sure this movie has WAY more gun kills than the first one. Half as many people are shot dead in the first act alone.
@@nimawhe Exactly. When it comes to movie censors, the graphic violence trumps a person being shot. You can shoot a thousand civilians one time, but not a single civilian a thousand times.
The story in Robocop is okay but they make Murphy out to be this super obsolete machine that lost its reaction skills and just stands there looking around. It does have its moments, but the acting is really bad. Jill Hennessy makes the movie.
You guys are having a great time! Fun tidbit for older nerds: Robocop 1 has a BIOS startup sequence, as seen in IBM PCs and compatibles running MS-DOS, which was a normal computer thing in the 80's. Robocop 2 has an Apple Macintosh -like GUI, with a skull and crossbones replacing the Apple logo. It was very new at the time, and I laughed out loud in the theater, first time it showed up!
The movie is definitely a comedown from the first, but still very much entertaining. I especially love the special effects and stop motion work. It's some of the best I've ever seen.
Trivia, the Sunblock 5000 commercial was shot at the same swimming pool that Riggs, Leo and the gunmen fell into in 'Lethal Weapon 2', a hotel located right across the way from the Fox Plaza building, aka the Nakatomi building in 'Die Hard'. It can be seen behind the girl in the commercial.
The new director and the actress who played Lewis didn't get on so he cut her scenes down. Think she wanted her character more to do or something like that
A worthy sequel if only to see Peter Weller star again. Not quite as dark at the first despite the killing, but very enjoyable none the less. The special effects were amazing in this. One of the last films to use a majority of practical effects. The end of an era. CGI was just starting to be used. Not quite as good as the original, but very good.
The scientist in the Nuke production trailer Cain was talking to was Frank Miller. Frank Miller is a legendary comic book writer/artist who actually came up with this story and wrote the screenplay.
Speaking of drug cartel crime movies: react to "New Jack City" (1991); it's about an undercover drug addict (Mario van Peebles) working for a NYPD detective (Ice-T) to infiltrate a cartel and bring its boss down (Wesley Snipes). You gonna love it! And on the slim chance, that a Illinois Person has never seen "Blues Brother" (very slim chance), you really should watch that movie, too.
The screenwriters and the studio were at odds about what the story should be in this movie. The screenwriters wanted to go for a serious and violent tone, the studio wanted to back off on that and add more humor and optimism at the end so that teenagers would come and fewer parents could complain. And then there was a five month writers' strike. As a result, the screenwriters were fired and this movie wound up being several ideas and drafts stitched together with toned down violence.
19:44 In 1990, before this movie had come out, this clip was shown with the trailers before the flick I was seeing at the theater. Back then, I guess some theaters still allowed smoking.
Yes it was around that time when the banning of smoking in many public places really took of. You could stil smoke in many theatres. Sometimes there were designated seating for non smokers, lol
I love how this movie blatantly called themselves out by showing all of the other versions of a new Robocop (even calling it Robocop 2) and showing it fail miserably.
So psyched to see this one checked out and reacted to, and by my two favorite reactors! Well done Sam and Daniel! Awesome you recognized Tom Noonan who indeed played Dollarhyde/'The Tooth Fairy' in Manhunter. Was also 'The Ripper' in Last Action Hero. Anyhoo, yeah, it is a pretty fun film, with some awesome and outrageous moments. The foot stomp outta the destroyed car is iconic. Also has some of the best old-skool fx work in any movie - The RoboCain remains one beast of a creation. Peter Weller continues to shine as Robo of course. Continues to deliver in much of the social commentary with touching on points with the 'war on drugs', and yes, going over child criminals, which was starting to be more a noticed thing at that time (was already a bigger thing in other countries). It has its cons though. Agree there was a lack of Murphy and Lewis actually 'partnering up' throughout. It goes even more over the top than the first in some respects with the ads and such, perhaps too much so. And while it still has some cleverness isn't quite as sharp as the original. Nor does it have any real 'lightness' or as much heart to it, which the first one had, giving it a far better balance overall. All-told, it is still a worthy enough sequel, and given its somewhat troubled production, could have been much worse. Anyhoo, again, kudos to you both for this one!
RoboCop 2 is one of my favorite sequels. Fun fact. The man that directed this film was the same man that directed Star Wars Episode V The Empire Strikes Back
Same guy that directed Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back. Unfortunately this was the last movie Irvin Kershner directed….not as good as the original and didn’t like how Robocop reverted back to default in this after regaining his identity and humanity in the first movie….. but still a really fun and absurd sequel.
Another fire ass design, that Cain animatronic is a thing of beauty and we never got a toy for it growing up so i feel jipped :D part 3 had a incredible idea for robo but damn even as a kid i knew the movie was lame :P
From the very first Robocop, you are told that the city of Detroit has contracted with OCP to run the city, and you get a glimpse of Delta City, the vision of the CEO. This continues the theme, that OCP is running the show, and Robocop is the property of OCP. Installing all hose directives into his program was the way to get the Robocop 2 program up and running as a replacement for the original Robocop. Nancy Allen returns as Lewis in Robocop 3, but they replaced Peter Weller with someone else. The film in my opinion is the worst of the 3, but ED-209 is back. The saga comes full circle with the development of Delta City, so it might be worth a look just to wrap up the series. Robocop 2 wasn't as bad as people make it out to be, but the focus on the movie was Cain who could only be controlled through his addiction to Nuke.
In the Sunblock 5000 commercial, the building seen in the background is the real life Fox Plaza in Century City aka Nakatomi Plaza from Die Hard. This also means that the pool that the girl is at is the same pool from Lethal Weapon 2 where Riggs and Leo fall from into the 6th story, because Fox Plaza was also seen in that pool’s background.
This was released the same year as Die Hard 2, Gremlins 2 and Predator 2 and has the same director as Empire Strikes Back. RoboCop's armor is blue in this instead of grey
A great sequel! The first movie I watched with my friends after coming home from basic training in 1990. Campy and Crazy just like RoboCop and Starship Troopers! Just get on and enjoy the ride! I always enjoy re-watching a good flick with you both!
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Between her begging Murphy to put his hideous face back under a helmet and him begging Robocop to kill kids, this might just be the funniest reaction you both have done. 🤣🤣
XD
More cringe like
@@stevenightfall6634 AWww wassa matta you don't know how to be silly and have a good time?
"NO directives? He can kill kids now"
I lost my shit when Daniel said that 😂
Or to lend a word from Gary Oldman in Leon/The Professional: "EVERYONE!"
Finally a channel brave enough to react to Robocop 2 heh
Without being better than the first, it is a decent sequel and quite rebellious, politically incorrect, it reminds me of Predator 2, which is also not better than the original but it is the best sequel in the saga
Sunblock 5000 is my favorite... does that exist in reality... that is the boddy paint..?
@@javix2013 Yeah, while it doesn't quite reach the satirical uber-violent heights of the first it's quite good for what it is. Especially when compared to the final shitty pg-13 entry.
@@javix2013 Predator 2 is way better than this though.
@@matsv201 Magnavolt
Say whatever you want about the kid, but he steals every single scene he's in..... Literally the best character of the movie....
I don’t know, I liked the guy that played the Mayor “This is BULLSHT!”
True!
@@willthorburn1985 Mayor was gold too
That violinist
@@willthorburn1985 He was in Galaxy Quest as well if I recall.
Fun fact the scientist at 21:05 is actually Frank Miller. The guy who wrote the script and one of the most influential comic book writers of the 80s and 90s, his works include Daredevil, The Dark Knight Returns and 300.
Sin City was an amazing series, and I love his drawing style
Shut up geek.
Didn't Miller write the 'Robocop Vs. Terminator' comic? One of the best comic crossovers, IMO. I know he wrote a few Robocop comics for Dark Horse.
He did some good work but I think his legend status is a little overblown. He became famous for turning the Daredevil title around by going way darker and grittier with it and turning a failing title at the time into one of the best sellers.
But he basically just kept trying to use that same formula in everything he did from that point on. Just taking an already existing IP and going dark with it. Sometimes and it worked and sometimes it really didn't. He's done some really awful shit as well.
@@Rowgue51 He wrote a Robocop script that wasn't used for the movie, turned it into a comic. It was God awful.
The glee in TBR's voice when talking about how Robocop needs to be able to kill kids is cracking me up!
Yep, reminded me of his ‘Kill her Roy!’ watching Primal Fear😂
@@charmawow 21:03 - ''Frank...Ulvade ?'' Shirley not ?!!
Fun fact. The Robocop 2/Kane was specifically designed to look like that so that it would be really difficult and expensive to make a toy version. There were so many Chinese knock off action figures from the first movie they made RC2/Kane be so full of little moving parts and very top heavy that only quality made figures would be able to stand up. It also looks really fooking cool.
I also remember reading that his head was supposed to be a stylized eagle head.
And yes, the design still holds up, I think.
even hot toys have declined lol
Phil Tippett is the master of stop motion FX for this era of movies
Have you seen his new film MadGod? It's freaking amazing!
@@seanrosenau2088 Yes! it is absolutely phenomenal. A look into his mind in many ways.
The documentary "Light and Magic" also explored the work Tippett did in pre-production for "Jurassic Park" before Spielberg and ILM decided to go with making the CGI dinosaurs.
Not to mention the use of Squibs. It's all CGI these days. I miss the realistic look of the bloody explosive squibs!
@@zipzeolocke2 Worst use of squibs in a movie was when Elias died in Platoon. The squibs failed to go off.
Also, I love the subtle details:
Robocop tells his wife that he doesn't know her so she can finally be free and live her life.
Whilst Cain kills Angie because if he can't have her, no-one can.
@@DeltaAssaultGaming Fr I had the biggest crush on her when I was a kid lol
Fun Fact: The Child Actor is actually Little Foot From The Land Before Time.
I'm 42 and still fast-forward his mom dying. Still my saddest movie moment ever.
Didnt know that, nice
And he was Spot Conlon in Newsies.
@Dark Titan I've literally gone my whole life thinking that was the same kid. Thanks for correction 30 years later LOL
The story of the girl that voiced Ducky is absolutely tragic
Cain running up the elevator shaft was true uncanny valley nightmare fuel as a kid.
How was it uncanny valley?
Right? Freaked me out same as the aliens in the ceiling in aliens.
I love the stop motion effects in this movie!!
do you think stop motion will look more improved in today's age?
@@charlesderosas5577 yes with the technology we have today stop motion in live action movies would look great
The Actor who played the dirty cop was name Stephen Lee he was a friend of my dad before his passing.
He played recurring scumbag Tony B on Don Johnson's second cop show, "Nash Bridges".
Gotta say, this is the most human Robocop has ever been across the films, given how he's operating without directives telling him what to do after getting shocked and yet he still performs his job faultlessly, that's 100% Murphy no strings attatched.
You should read the novelization because they went even further with his humanity and even depression. The scene where RoboCop encounters his former wife at the police station happens much later in the book. After being told by the lawyers to stay away from her, RoboCop drives to a junkyard to ponder what he has become.
"He closed his eyes and daydreamed, seeing himself frozen solid by rust. He envisioned the mighty magnets lifting his long out-modeled, creaky, corroded body toward the conveyor belt. The conveyor accepting the offering without question. The whining, flailing machine nourished itself on Robo's body, tearing it to pieces with rotating, razor-sharp teeth."
Fortunately, Lewis arrives to snap RoboCop out of his suicidal thoughts and remind him of who he is.
@@brandonspain12345 Hmmm I did read the comic novelization, it showed a part where Murphy has to essentially lie and say "I'm just wearing his face in his honor, I'm sorry for your loss, Ms. Murphy." Paraphrasing, but if I can find the book, I'll give it a read for sure!
The stop motion was well done and could be legitimately creepy at times. Robocop not being himself adds an element of comedy before the final round against RoboCain escalates to their final showdown. A true classic.
Grew up with this movie, watched it when I was way too young but that is also why it has a special place in my heart. They also dont do movies like this anymore, comedic but also brutal but also taking itself serious to some degree. I mean the topic of corporations taking over entire sectors of public service, even the whole city. Was crazy and bad back in the day and still is.
Well, there was Tropic Thunder and Attack The Block.
41:10 "I don't want Robocop to kill a kid"
Spent half the movie calling kill the kids!
No point trying to hide now 😁
Edit: Haven't seen this in a long time, was fun revisiting it!
Peter Weller (Robocop/Alex Murphy) initially turned down the offer to return for Robocop 2 when he first read the script, but the studio offered him such an obscene amount of money that he literally could not say no.
The Robocop movies were satires on the emerging reality that we now live in: corporations hijacking public services, making law, morality and basic decency subordinate to profit. I'll buy that for a dollar.
Some pretty hilarious riffing from you two on this reaction.
And no, you didn't watch a toned down version of Robocop 2. It's just that Robocop 1 (and Paul Verhoeven movies in general) was so ludicrously violent that anything by comparison feels restrained.
Yes, watch Robocop 3 for truly toned down Robocop, lol
I think the vivisection scene is worse than anything in part 1. They're torturing the guy and even the villain's henchmen are uncomfortable with how it plays out (except for the sicko doing the cutting).
@@ryanjacobson2508 That's a fair point.
@@ryanjacobson2508 - That part has always stuck in my mind, probably for the reasons you cite. Robocop 2 really doesn't really skimp on the R-rated stuff. I guess by comparison, it just lacks the copious volume of blood squibs Verhoven puts in everything, nor does it have any nauseating scenes involving toxic waste.
Anybody else noticed the OCP banners looked just like Nazi flags?
Just about all of the action movies in the summer of 1990 were R-rated and they really went for it. RoboCop 2, Total Recall, Another 48 Hours, Die Hard 2, The Adventures of Ford Fairlane, Navy SEALS. Lots of over-the-top action and snappy one-liner fun. Even the PG-rated comic book movie "Dick Tracy" got grouped in with some critic's complaints about violence that summer.
Ironic given that the reactors noted this sequel to be less violent than the original.
@@jp3813 I think that's offset by Cain being such a cold and sick bastard, he makes Boddicker seem charming in comparison.
Ironically, 1990 has always felt to me like the 80's on steroids. The somberness of the grunge aesthetic wouldn't set in until like 1992.
@@ryanjacobson2508 The first year of a decade still largely resembles the previous one. Fitting given that centuries start w/ 1 as the last digit.
when was Predator 2 released in 1990?
You also saw Tom Noonan before as the Ripper (and himself) in Last Action Hero.
Cain watching from the vat as they discuss his empty skull always freaked me out -- not even so much for the visuals, but because you can feel Cain's silent but accelerating descent into insane rage.
I remember my dad taking me and my older brother to go see it in theaters opening weekend back in 1990 when I was 8 years old. For much of my childhood I preferred this one more over the original but as I got older I went back to the original as the best. While this one is not as good as the first one, it is a very underrated sequel. While it seems a tad watered down in the violence compared to the original because Paul Verhoeven did not come back to direct the sequel as he has claimed that he does not do sequels, also he was busy making Total Recall. There’s a blink and you’ll miss it scene of director Irvin Kershner as one of the candidate mugshots for the RoboCop 2 program. Tom Noonan was also in The Last Action Hero as the Ripper. The actor that plays the mayor is Harpo from The Color Purple. The kid is not only the voice of Littlefoot from the original The Land Before Time but he’s also Mel Gibson’s son in Tequila Sunrise. This movie is a lot of fun to watch at best but RoboCop 3 is not worth watching for many reasons. 1) It was watered down to a PG-13 rating and came off as too family friendly. 2) Peter Weller didn’t come back for RoboCop 3 as he was doing Naked Lunch instead so we got a cheesy Robert John Burke replacing Weller. 3) Orion Pictures was already near bankruptcy when RoboCop 2 was released that RoboCop 3 was rushed into production the following year but got shelved for 2 more years before it’s release in 1993. The 2014 remake which was also PG-13 was okay at most but not rememberable but only redeemed by having Samuel L. Jackson in it. Neil Blomkamp was going to make a RoboCop requel in the spirit of the original a few years back, before that got shelved so we may never get to see what’ll come out of that.
You're right about RoboCop 3. Orion found that kids loved RoboCop and wanted to capitalize on that market by making it PG-13, completely missing why kids loved RoboCop so much (which was obviously the over the top violence, blood and gore, it's like they've never been kids themselves).
Also, the only good thing about the 2014 remake is that the satire in that movie is on par with the original, but the story is severally lacking. It focusses too much on the philosophical aspect of man versus machine and doesn't have a memorable villain like Clarence Boddicker. What should have been the B-plot of an action movie became the main focus and that really hurt the movie since that action part became, well, a (bad) parody of generic action movies.
Comic book writer Frank Miller (Batman, Daredevil, 300, Sin City) wrote this and has a cameo as the scientist making Nuke. He wanted to make the CEO of OCP the villain because of the way he acted in the first film (the employee gets riddled with bullets by ED 209 and all he says is "I'm very disappointed").
The dismembered Robocop torso was a complete construct by Rob Bottin (The Thing, Total Recall, Se7en). They were so impressed with the facial movements that they wrote a whole new scene with it right on the set.
Robocop 2 is such a great piece of stop motion animation. Maybe the last great example of the technique before CGI took over. It was done by Phil Tippet, who was responsible for ED 209 in the first film as well as the AT AT walkers in the original Star Wars movies. He also supervised the CG FX in Starship Troopers.
I personally like this movie a lot. Belinda Bauer gives a wonderfully unhinged performance as Dr. Faxx. She's the most memorable villain in the film. Tom Noonan as Cain seems a little subdued most of the time. Dan O'Herlihy is always fun (you should see him in The Last Starfighter, though you won't recognize him until you hear his voice). I remember most critics had problems with the kid using obscenities and doing the violent things he does. They also said it was more violent than the first film. But I don't think that's true. The first film did have better villains with Bodickker and Dick Jones. I think that was the only thing that hurt Robocop 2.
Saw this in the theater when I was WAY too young. Robo Cain scared the hell out of me. My mom sent me not realizing how super violent it was. I never told her he he. As far as I'm concerned, the series ended here.
lol, I remember watching this when it hit video and my buddy's dad renting it for us. We must've been 9 or 10 at the time. Agreed, the series definitely ended here. Part 3 is unwatchable dreck.
Hell, I was 15 when seeing this with my mom and dad in the theater and I thought that Cain was the most awesome but also the most terrifying thing in the movie!
This was the 90s action movies of the big studios, violent, graphic, bloody, savage, irreverent and politically incorrect, to the point that you could see a child shooting guns, killing people and in the drug business. Today the cinema of the big studios has changed its perspective, it is a cinema more suitable for all audiences, because they realized that they were losing audience with that excess of violence.
Yea, the series definitely ended there, because Robocop 3 was sillier, and stupider, than any fan could have ever expected on first viewing, and be ready to leave the theater in disgust less than 10 minutes in. And what they did to Anne, what a disappointment! Anne Lewis was too cool, bad ass, and great of a character to do that to her. Shame.
Same here still scared me to this day
I also really like the twist that Robocop 2 isn't just a generic sequel name. It's actually the name of the bad guy and you get Robocop vs. Robocop 2 at the end
I loved the running joke. “He can kill kids now!”. Lol
funny that the moment he's able, he gets his kill stolen
Unfortunately, the drama and the main arches were substantially cut out. As an example, Murphy's recklessness was part of the arc about his acceptance of himself as a Robocop. At that time, he, like other cyborgs, wanted to die, but his sense of duty did not allow him to simply kill himself, so he wanted to die in battle. It was because it was all cut out that Allen and Weller decided to leave the franchise.
Is there an uncut version?
@@franktib There's the workprint version of Robocop 2 online if you look for it. It's got numerous extended and deleted scenes in it and overall it's a better film. Video quality isn't all that great given it's a workprint but it's still worth checking out. Also, the original Basil Poledouris score from the first film is used throughout as a temp music track before the Rosenman score was applied so that's a plus too.
Tom Noonan is also great as the Frankenstein Monster in Monster Squad, which would be a great movie for you guys to watch for October. It was directed by Fred Dekker who also directed Robocop 3. Dekker called Monster Squad his proudest moment as a director...and Robocop 3 ruined his career. 😅
The Predator was worse. He did that with Shane Black who was also in Robocop 3 no less.
Robocop 3, if it is no longer a good movie, light years away from the first 2, it has much less violence, it is more suitable for all audiences, but I insist, the script and the direction are very weak. In Rotten Tomatoes: Robocop 3, 3%
Monster squad, your showing your age.
@@garypasquill2355 You're.
I'd love to see them react to The Monster Squad, I love that movie!
You two are the best, and that's that. Best reactors on TH-cam.
Bruh no one ever does RoboCop 2. Thanks for this.
I saw this in the theatre when I was 10, so I watched the original when I was 9 or younger. I miss the 80’s!
I actually really liked Robocop 2. I remember my friends mom wouldnt let us watch jt because there was drugs in the movie lol minus all the gore.
Yes. 2 is worth watching.
3, is hilariously bad. Jury is still out over whether or not it's bad enough to be good.
@@crapstirrer I'd say it's way too boring for it to reach that kind of category, lol
Tim Miller was hired to direct Robocop 2. He was replaced by Irvin Kershner. Kershner hated Frank Miller's script and he tore up pages. The music score is by the late Leonard Rosenman. They filmed a scene where Robocop finds Alex Murphy's grave.
"Tim Miller" is Tim Hunter. Sorry. He directed the Keanu Reeves drama River's Edge.
This sequel is criminally underrated and one of my favorite sequels. 46:50 True on Dr. Juliet Faxx.
That was the funniest reaction you two have ever done. “No directives? Now he can kill kids!”
Wonder which jedi he would be
I always avoided this movie because Paul Verhoeven wasn’t involved and it had really bad reviews. But I’ve always been curious about what it has. And seeing your video really helped me decide it might be worth it just for fun. Also, I don’t think I was really aware that it had all the old cast members back. Thanks guys - great reaction as always.
who directed this?
@@w41duvernay Irvin kershner, surprisingly
@@coolhive2941 Empire Strikes Back
@@coolhive2941 It was his last movie he directed too no less.
I've always loved this sequel, though I agree that the first film is a better movie. Great reaction! 👍🏿
Tom Noonan was also the villain on the roof in Last Action Hero!!!!!
Just realized the bag guy (well the adult) was the same guy that played Jack the Ripper from Last Action Hero!
Omg I forgot about the fund raiser violin guy 😆😆😂😂🤣🤦🏻♂️
No matter how many times I watch this movie I always laugh when the hotdog vendor says “THEY GONNA KICK SOMEBODY ASS!!!
This film is so under rated I love it. The character of Cain is one of the most far out evil colorful villains ever. He has some great lines.
I always felt that when the old man said "you choose the brain" he was giving the other guy tacit permission to blatantly choose the psychologist. When he drove off in the car with her I suspected he was planning on using her as a scapegoat to protect the company. She was pretty much disposable at this point. One way or another.
I’m pretty sure that’s his niece too 😂 dude is savage
This was my favorite of the series. Those facial expressions on the robot is early real-time CGI done with some special gloves (I may be remembering wrong).
They were still using stop motion effects in major blockbusters for quite some years until CGI became more refined. They tended to combine it with other effects techniques. The special effects people from that generation grew up with the effects films of Ray Harryhausen and were in awe of his contribution to movie effects work. He was literally a one man visual effects unit and only worked with a team on his last film Clash o the Titans. He often took over directing duties to direct the visual effects sequences with the actors himself. They even used stop motion in The Empire Strikes Back which was also directed by Irvin Kirshner, the director of Robocop 2.
I would strongly suggest at some point just for the sake of film history that you check out a couple of Ray Harryhausen's most famous films. His most popular movies and his most commercially successful were always his mythological films. Jason and the Argonauts and his Sinbad trilogy. The 7th Voyage of Sinbad, The Golden Voyage of Sinbad and Sinbad and the Eye of the Tiger. The Sinbad films can be watched in any order. They're all stand alone adventures and don't follow on from each other. My personal favourite is The Golden Voyage of Sinbad.
The little crime lord kid also plays an orphan in a Star Trek TNG episode. Quite a different role. 😅
My favorite in the RoboCop series, I don't know what it is but there is something about this movie that is amazingly special to me, I first saw it at age 9 on Spike TV before I had even saw the first film.
I don't know how you did it, but you edited this turkey down to a very entertaining half hour. Good choices, great commentary throughout... you two are the best reactors I know. A great pleasure spending this hour with you.
the only turkey is you. Robocop II is a great movie and 10x better then any sci fi movie today
The action scenes in part 2 blow the original out of the water. Of course the first movie has better characters and a better story, but as sheer spectacle the sequel is more impressive.
@@indyhulk1146 Exactly. While it's not quite as good as the first one, it's still a fun, entertaining movie.
Kneecap a 12-year-old. She's a keeper, bro.
Now it's necessary to say on every video: AVOID ROBOCOP 3 TO DEATH
Idk I still kinda like it lol but yeah prolly not for a reaction video
There is definitely way worse movies
Not nearly as good as the first one, but man do I love that Go-motion
9:35 my reaction after seeing the Robocop remake on the big screen.
There's a Bruce Willis movie called 'The Last Boy Scout' From 1991, do that next! 100%
Tony Scott at his best.
The Last Boy Scout is great. And one of the best Bruce Willis movies (a few eps. ago you asked for recommendations)
Sam had me rolling when she said Nuke sounds awes and asked how much lol
This is one of the few sequels I actually like. The first Robocop was a violent satire. This one ups the satire more than the violence. I think people expected the a gritty tongue-in-cheek movie like the first. Now the third one. That's absolute trash.
More than the violence? How many kills are there in the first movie? Pretty sure this movie has WAY more gun kills than the first one. Half as many people are shot dead in the first act alone.
@@Zenn3k I think what he really means is over the top gore. Murphy's death and the boardroom scene is hard to top.
@@nimawhe Exactly. When it comes to movie censors, the graphic violence trumps a person being shot. You can shoot a thousand civilians one time, but not a single civilian a thousand times.
RoboCop 3 is better than this nonsense, sorry.
The story in Robocop is okay but they make Murphy out to be this super obsolete machine that lost its reaction skills and just stands there looking around. It does have its moments, but the acting is really bad. Jill Hennessy makes the movie.
You guys are having a great time!
Fun tidbit for older nerds: Robocop 1 has a BIOS startup sequence, as seen in IBM PCs and compatibles running MS-DOS, which was a normal computer thing in the 80's. Robocop 2 has an Apple Macintosh -like GUI, with a skull and crossbones replacing the Apple logo. It was very new at the time, and I laughed out loud in the theater, first time it showed up!
The movie is definitely a comedown from the first, but still very much entertaining. I especially love the special effects and stop motion work. It's some of the best I've ever seen.
Trivia, the Sunblock 5000 commercial was shot at the same swimming pool that Riggs, Leo and the gunmen fell into in 'Lethal Weapon 2', a hotel located right across the way from the Fox Plaza building, aka the Nakatomi building in 'Die Hard'. It can be seen behind the girl in the commercial.
So glad I found your channel. Have been binge watching your reactions. All top notch.
I can see Red Foreman walking up to the lady who made Cain into a cyborg and simply say, "Dumbass!"
The new director and the actress who played Lewis didn't get on so he cut her scenes down. Think she wanted her character more to do or something like that
This movie was directed by Irvin Kershner the same guy who directed The Empire Strikes Back.
A worthy sequel if only to see Peter Weller star again. Not quite as dark at the first despite the killing, but very enjoyable none the less. The special effects were amazing in this. One of the last films to use a majority of practical effects. The end of an era. CGI was just starting to be used. Not quite as good as the original, but very good.
BOTH YOUR reactions at 13:25......LOL so funny.
The scientist in the Nuke production trailer Cain was talking to was Frank Miller. Frank Miller is a legendary comic book writer/artist who actually came up with this story and wrote the screenplay.
He actually co-wrote it with Oscar nominated writer Walon Green ("The Wild Bunch", "The Border", "Eraser", "The Hi-Lo Country").
Yeah number 2 felt more heroic. Like it turned Robo into a superhero lol
And years later, Peter Weller would voice Miller's iconic version of Batman in the animated adaptation of The Dark Knight Returns!
Speaking of drug cartel crime movies: react to "New Jack City" (1991); it's about an undercover drug addict (Mario van Peebles) working for a NYPD detective (Ice-T) to infiltrate a cartel and bring its boss down (Wesley Snipes). You gonna love it!
And on the slim chance, that a Illinois Person has never seen "Blues Brother" (very slim chance), you really should watch that movie, too.
The first movie the scene that stood out for me was when that guy got dissolved in acid.
This one was the cop getting gutted.
23:42 - Most of you may remember her as Alotta Fagina in the original Austin Powers (but that was WAY after Robocop 2)!
The screenwriters and the studio were at odds about what the story should be in this movie. The screenwriters wanted to go for a serious and violent tone, the studio wanted to back off on that and add more humor and optimism at the end so that teenagers would come and fewer parents could complain. And then there was a five month writers' strike. As a result, the screenwriters were fired and this movie wound up being several ideas and drafts stitched together with toned down violence.
Early 90's was so violent.
I love how much of the conflict comes from the fact Robocop can't kill kids and you end up wanting him to be able to 😂😂
"He didn't really volunteer."
He voluntold! 🤣
I think the big boss guy was indicating that the evil lady should be used to experiment on to create another robot like Cain
I couldn't stop laughing when Robocop went all PC 🤣
19:44 In 1990, before this movie had come out, this clip was shown with the trailers before the flick I was seeing at the theater. Back then, I guess some theaters still allowed smoking.
Yes it was around that time when the banning of smoking in many public places really took of. You could stil smoke in many theatres. Sometimes there were designated seating for non smokers, lol
@@Fedorevsky Ah yes, the good old days of freedom... 🚬
@@LarryFleetwood8675 Indeed!
I love how this movie blatantly called themselves out by showing all of the other versions of a new Robocop (even calling it Robocop 2) and showing it fail miserably.
Blue Thunder and Black Rain are also a great 80's action/crime movies.
When you see 3 and the TV series you appreciate 2 a little more xD
I never saw the TV series
Oh no don't mention the tv series for the love of god lol
The TV show (Canadian from 2005) in a great tribute
@@LightStreak567 You didn't miss much. In fact Robocop 3 and the TV series make This movie look like an academy award winning production LOL!
@@rccraig7580 What I don't understand about Robocop 3 is why they couldn't get Peter Weller back
"Do we have any evidence?"
"Whether it exists or not, I am pretty sure we can find it"
classic.
This sequel gets a bit of hate but I personally love it. Good action and villain.
How can one hate this film, it's so much fun? Must be Robocop 3 fans.
Lol, yall really did ask the pertinent questions, nice duo, respect!
So psyched to see this one checked out and reacted to, and by my two favorite reactors! Well done Sam and Daniel!
Awesome you recognized Tom Noonan who indeed played Dollarhyde/'The Tooth Fairy' in Manhunter. Was also 'The Ripper' in Last Action Hero.
Anyhoo, yeah, it is a pretty fun film, with some awesome and outrageous moments. The foot stomp outta the destroyed car is iconic. Also has some of the best old-skool fx work in any movie - The RoboCain remains one beast of a creation. Peter Weller continues to shine as Robo of course. Continues to deliver in much of the social commentary with touching on points with the 'war on drugs', and yes, going over child criminals, which was starting to be more a noticed thing at that time (was already a bigger thing in other countries).
It has its cons though. Agree there was a lack of Murphy and Lewis actually 'partnering up' throughout. It goes even more over the top than the first in some respects with the ads and such, perhaps too much so. And while it still has some cleverness isn't quite as sharp as the original. Nor does it have any real 'lightness' or as much heart to it, which the first one had, giving it a far better balance overall.
All-told, it is still a worthy enough sequel, and given its somewhat troubled production, could have been much worse.
Anyhoo, again, kudos to you both for this one!
RoboCop 2 is one of my favorite sequels. Fun fact. The man that directed this film was the same man that directed Star Wars Episode V The Empire Strikes Back
The late Irvin Kershner, yes.
@@LarryFleetwood8675 the man knew how to make really good sequels
Same guy that directed Star Wars: The Empire Strikes Back.
Unfortunately this was the last movie Irvin Kershner directed….not as good as the original and didn’t like how Robocop reverted back to default in this after regaining his identity and humanity in the first movie….. but still a really fun and absurd sequel.
Never understood the hate, this is a grossly underrated film, just total fun.
"I can't believe a child was running this." - You definitely want to put the movie "City of God" on your list then.
Love that movie
You two are a heaven sent thank you it helps me during these hard times bless you both 🤙
I had a sick Robocop 2 poster on my bedroom door in 1990 😆✨✨
"Why do you have to label people??? I hate labels!!!" You're guys's faces are priceless!! 😂
Another fire ass design, that Cain animatronic is a thing of beauty and we never got a toy for it growing up so i feel jipped :D part 3 had a incredible idea for robo but damn even as a kid i knew the movie was lame :P
Woman to Caine: 'You said you're just going to scare him'
Jayne: "Pain is scary"
From the very first Robocop, you are told that the city of Detroit has contracted with OCP to run the city, and you get a glimpse of Delta City, the vision of the CEO. This continues the theme, that OCP is running the show, and Robocop is the property of OCP. Installing all hose directives into his program was the way to get the Robocop 2 program up and running as a replacement for the original Robocop. Nancy Allen returns as Lewis in Robocop 3, but they replaced Peter Weller with someone else. The film in my opinion is the worst of the 3, but ED-209 is back. The saga comes full circle with the development of Delta City, so it might be worth a look just to wrap up the series. Robocop 2 wasn't as bad as people make it out to be, but the focus on the movie was Cain who could only be controlled through his addiction to Nuke.
I only watched the 3rd that one time back when it came out. I can't bring myself to watch it again. Felt like torture.
@@Fedorevsky at least Jill Hennesy and Rip Torn were in it. The whole Japanese buy out thing made the movie clunky.
RoboCop 3, makes RoboCop 2, look like RoboCop.
Peter Weller was the best RoboCop
In the Sunblock 5000 commercial, the building seen in the background is the real life Fox Plaza in Century City aka Nakatomi Plaza from Die Hard. This also means that the pool that the girl is at is the same pool from Lethal Weapon 2 where Riggs and Leo fall from into the 6th story, because Fox Plaza was also seen in that pool’s background.
This was released the same year as Die Hard 2, Gremlins 2 and Predator 2 and has the same director as Empire Strikes Back. RoboCop's armor is blue in this instead of grey
and Child's Play 2
I find it hilarious that the one biker that was nice enough not to go over him was the one who gets knocked off and bike taken. 😅
A great sequel! The first movie I watched with my friends after coming home from basic training in 1990. Campy and Crazy just like RoboCop and Starship Troopers! Just get on and enjoy the ride! I always enjoy re-watching a good flick with you both!