@@pepsiman4909 yeah it's real check your super store and u will find full armor set with %50 resistance acid gas flame and arc damage 1 banner 1 cape 1 title and 1 assault rifle with light armor pen
@@Soundwave142 "The Vektans speak of freedom, but they have no idea what true freedom really is. They are imprisoned by their laws and customs and their so-called civility. They are selfish people. They live frivolous, wasteful lives, possessing neither purpose nor direction. The ISA have no say here, yet they still think they are allowed to meddle in the affairs of a free and law-abiding people. WE are our own masters! The Helghast answers to one one!" -Jorhan Stahl
@@Soundwave142 I dunno, Helghan did fight oppressors, it was the ISA. We just were playing as the Vektan's instead of Helghan. Because let's be real, the Helghans are such a badass unit to fight against by default.
Killzone should have had a helghast campaign. They’re not “good”, but they have their justifications, and a perspective from a radicalised fanatic character would have been interesting.
We need either a Killzone reboot (with brown colour palette) or even a movie based on Killzone Sony may be ashamed of their attempts at making an FPS, but it doesn't mean no one likes it
Should, but unfortunately could not. The trilogy's plot was heavily censored due to it originally having very obvious references to irl events (UN supposedly being for equality, but obviously favoring certain countries; NATO creating an image of defensive alliance yet actively expanding and its creation provoking the creation of the Warsaw Pact - i.e. the very force it made its mission to fight against; the U.S. invasion of Iraq, The War on Terror, etc.). Sony feared this might impact the series' sales in the west, thus the devs were constantly "advised" to make said references more ambiguous, change the plot and setting so that its less grey and have the helghast be less sympathetic. P.S. Iirc, we were supposed to get at least some missions, if not a full-fledged campaign where we play as a helghast soldier in KZ3. Alas, it got scrapped, tutorial being the only thing remaining.
@@Delta_3VIII I don’t remember whole story but still: abandoned on a planet with harsh environment, bombarded by chemical weapons, oppressed, sick and poor, but still proud and standing tall against so called “good guys” from ISA.
The Helghast are such an underrated sci-fi faction. How they dress, how they act, how they speak, the weapons they use, the tanks and ships they have, the mobile factories and giant walkers they have. I can only imagine an RTS game with the Helghast.
Imagine an RTS or wargame where you could also control teams/squads like as a milsim lol So I can already imagine Helghast troops varying from infantrymen to even spec ops
Killzone 2 was the peak design, especially with the consideration a lot of their ground vehicles are repurposed mining equipment, it shows just how dedicated they are to fight.
Naughty dog forgot about Jak in favor of cinematic 3rd person narrative driven games and Guerilla games did the same thing with KZ. Such is the way for modern PlayStation
@sixmillionisimpossible the robots are the only enjoyable thing about those series, otherwise it feels like they're catering to the twitter crowd But screw that, we should revive Killzone
@@timur5219 I blame Sony more than anyone else. People gnash their teeth over EA, or Blizzard, but nobody has murdered more franchises than Sony itself.
With the new Killzone armor and the fact that there's a planet called Solghast, I think it's safe to say that KZ is canon to Helldivers and Stal Arms was integrated into the Super Military Industrial Complex
The implication of The ISA being steamrolled by a united force of Helldivers and Helghast Assault Troopers has me rolling. Vekta didn't deserve those yellow bellied cowards anyways.
I hated that I couldn't join the Helghast in the Killzone games. The ISA were just scum trying to play the good guys, and don't even get me started on Rico the Retard. Always bad mouthing the beautiful people of Helghan.
@@t.j.wwagner1176maybe for the corporation’s. But a proper democracy with the slightly restrained hand of the market and good workers rights is the freest and most well of the common man can get.
@@kingcrafteroderderfahradtu7331 Democracy is where the majority dictates what the people are and aren't allowed to do. For example, let's say in a democratic country, the majority believes that homosexuality should be illegal; Therefore, it is unlawful because of the will of the majority. If someone's fitting can be taken away due to the popular vote, I hesitate to call it free
The funny thing is, if I remember correctly, the devs never intended to make Killzone morally grey, like the Helghast were supposed to just be the straight up bad guys. But the Vektans, the "good guys" that you play as, were such assholes to the Helghast that the entirety of Killzone youre constantly asking yourself "Am I the baddy?"
@@KingKimwer I remember getting into the Second Game (my personal favorite from the franchise by the by) and constantly wondering: "They fucked off to their own planet - Why are we screwing with these guys again?" And you find yourself asking that over and over, especially by the time you are well into KZ3: "Why are we exterminating the entire goddamn planet wait what why--?!"
@@Broken_Savior the ending of KZ3 completely baffled me. Wasnt enough that the two main "heroes" murdered the Helghan king (in cold blood out of rage), in the previous game but now their entire planet is dead and the Helghast have been genocided.
Really? I'd heard the opposite that they wanted it morally grey but higher ups told them to tone it down, and that's why we never got a Helghast campaign in the whole series.
Something about fighting the Helghan when you're young makes you feel like a hero. But, once you've gotten older, you realise it's just war. And the ending of Killzone 3 really makes me think: We just glassed an entire planet full of Helghast. Until Killzone ShadowFall came, and I was like: WTF am I doing?
I remember watching Helghan die when I was 12. At first it felt like victory. We'd won the day against the bad guys, good prevails once more and light shines upon a grateful Mankind. As I got older though that victory became hollow when I delved into the lore behind the First and Second Extrasolar Wars. Makes you wonder if, even though the Helghast would have undoubtedly continued on the warpath, was the death of not just billions of men, women and children, but an entire *planet*, worth it all?
I never thought of them as the bad Guys nor did i feel like a Hero, i was always highly suspicious of any Character or Faction portrayed as the good Guys, because in 90% of the Cases they are not
"the thing with the Killzone series is that the Helghast seemed to have nothing but legitimate grievances but are assigned the role of bad guys solely because they wear Nazi hats."-zero punctuation
The Stahlhelm ain't Nazi. Its only called Nazi Because of retards. For fucks sake it was created during WWI then used throughout post WWI by everyone who got stuff from Germany. Theirs people today still using a modernized Stahlhelm design.
The funny thing is, eveery time i recall Killzone, i only have the Helghan in my mind, pretty much like Farcry´s Vaas, Pagan Min or Joseph Seed. Such characters stuck to your mind
It's a shame we never got a Killzone game with a Helghast campaign - that would skyrocket the sales.. But it's great to see folks remembering the true heroes of mankind
@@fallout44454well... Wouldn't have happened if the Terrans/ISA treated the Helghast a little better... Also something that i could say About certain stuff from the last century 👀
@@fallout44454 Yeah, says the one who made a DNA virus targeting only a specific race of humans, as if having to breathe through a mask wasn't bad enough with space cancer.
@@ChaseDaOrk3767surface they're space Nazis. Dig just a lil bit and you realize they were nearly genocided and forced off of a fertile Earth like planet and onto a hellhole making their existence suffering by a morally righteous coalition from the old world. Their survival response turned into their current extreme iteration, but they didn't "start the fire" so to say. Only now, everyone's getting burned 🫠
@@ChaseDaOrk3767Their hatred of the ISA is perfectly justified. The ISA invaded Vekta, the original home world of the Helghast people, for resources and exiled their entire population to the radioactive wasteland known as Helghan.
"Cool armor! How'd y-" *_"IF YOU WERE EVEN OLD ENOUGH TO ENLIST, CHILD, I'D HAVE YOU SENT HOME FOR DARING TO SHOW UP IN SUCH TACKY ARMAMENTS!_* Who even wears a goddamned CAPE to a war?!?"
Knowing what I know about Radec...well, someone dressed up like a Helldiver might get sent "home" in a sense...just not the household they were born and raised in.
Honestly just because their the *BADGUY* army they actually had families and children they loved and fought for, a helghast soldier lost his family due to the extermination of helghan and said so in killzone 4
@@JerichoYeet Yes but I don't think you can buy it anymore, especially since the online servers were shut down about two years ago. The campaign is alright though.
Looking at the Helgan lore, these guys are the equivalent of the quiet guy at school that get bullied until they snap and tell their only buddy not to come to school tomorrow
They really try to make you mad at the with the Weimar Republic look while you're activelyinvading their planet to "end a coup." Its a penal colony and I'm supposed to feel bad for the guys that started the fight? Tf guerilla?
Ironically, in their attempt to thwart a rebellion, the ISA created their worst nightmare: An enemy so hateful, they will never stop to strive for the ISA's ultimate destruction.
Thank you Bandit for remind me about this I almost forgot what Lord Visari told me in the past to know my faith and what I have to do in the present to get the strength because *the future is my birthright!!!!*
Out of all the reasons to be like the Helghast, the Helghast have that reason. "But they're crazy and genocidal!" They currently live in slums on a planet whose atmosphere is trying to kill them, I cannot think of a better reason to try and get back your property. I'd even say they probably did too good of a job at making them sympathetic villains because by the end of it, even though they're not the "good guys", I knew the ISA were the bad guys. That opening in Killzone 1 really set the stage for it, you just see a hospital with a bunch of guys dying, coughing their lungs out, losing their hair and all that, really pulls the heart strings
@sixmillionisimpossible Also forgot the part as to why they Shock and Awe'd Vekta, it was because they were complete and total morons who ended up nuking themselves and wanted back land they already sold
@sixmillionisimpossible American world policing is very, very bad, unless Ukraine needs to launder money, and Israel decides to protect itself. Then, by all means, please intervene, Uncle Sam, right?
Cant wait till I'm able to renounce my loyalty to Super Earth and fight for Helghan when the new Warbond drops. Super Earth will know, Helghan belongs to the Helghast
This aged fine like wine. Helghans shall make generations upon generations of Helldivers shiver down their democratic core on thr rawpower of the Helghan people.
The irony is that Killzone series never resolved the conflict. Helghan and Vecta fought a massive war with use of WMDs that resulted in tens of millions of dead(mostly helghast, but also millions vectans) and none of it mattered since Vecta was following orders from Earth and even threw themselves to protect Earth in the end of KZ3, only for Earth immediately backstab Vecta again and demand that they accept all helghast refugees alone or Earth and core worlds would force them. Tl:dr - Helghast literally fought against (Super) Earth government and their puppet, Vecta.
When I used to play “PlayStation Allstars” and a Killzone soldier was there, I was a menace on the battlefield. Only rarely losing. Now I’ve come full circle, as a Helldiver to never lose again.
"My people... Sons and Daughters of Helghan... For many years, we have been a broken nation: shunned, oppressed, and conquered by those we sought to escape. Ten years ago, I asked for time, and that time was granted by you. You: the strength in my arm, the holders of my dreams... Our forefathers embarked on the greatest exodus in the history of all mankind. An exodus for freedom, Helghan became that freedom. Our new world changed our bodies. At first, it weakened us, but in fact, we were growing... stronger. In the time you have given me, I have rebuilt our nation, I have rebuilt our strength, and I have rebuilt our pride! Our enemies at home have been re-educated; we have given them new insights into our cause. On this day, we stand united once more. On this day, those driven to divide us will hear our voice! On this day, we shall act as one, and we shall be ignored NO MORE! Defenders of the Helghast dream, NOW IS OUR TIME!"
Every individual Helghast unit, especially in the second game, should be commended for that mix of WW2 German, dieselpunk, industrial sci-fi and 1980s-2000s American hybrid. Not every day you get a guy with welder's goggles, a rebreather, American PASGT-style helmet (ironically similar to the German Stahlhelm) all in a mud-soaked dust-covered grey-black uniform in media.
Brian Cox did such an INSANE job with the voice for Scolar Visari, he is by far my favorite sci/fi "villain", despite not having nearly enough screen presence. The speeches and his voice completely sells him as a dictator the Helghast would put their undying faith in. Incredible stuff.
Almost nothing that the Visari, Orlock, and Stahl regimes are responsible for were justified. Go back through the series and pay attention to what they actually do. They violently suppress free thought. They run a monopolized economy that treats its workers like trash. They force their people to live in densely packed slums. They force them to sacrifice themselves for the regime. They execute their own soldiers for uniform violations. They nuked their own capital just to slow the ISA down. They deliberately slaughtered civilians indiscriminately when they invaded Vekta in the first game. They planned to exterminate the entire population of Earth and subjugate the whole galaxy under their tyrannical regime. When Helghan got glassed, it was because their own weapons were accidentally detonated on Helghan instead of Earth. And EVEN AFTER all of that, the ISA GAVE THEM HALF OF VEKTA TO LIVE ON.
for Killzone players out there that thinks "damn, I wish I could play as the bad guys, they look so cool" u literally play as the bad guys in the entire franchise, the ISA are the bad guys but less cool
Seceding is a declaration of war on its own, it undermines the authority of the government lowering the trust of the populace, rather blow up a planet than lose support.
Helghast are what Helldivers could have become if Automatons had conquered and taken Super Earth lol, and I'm very happy to see Killzone memes this recently!
The Helghast now fight with Super Earth. In time, the enemies of our combined front will fear us. My Brothers and Sisters, bring onto them a reckoning to echo generations onward!"
My dad used to love the opening cutscene, he would let it play out every time we booted up the game. He once ran through the campaign on the hardest difficulty with each character because he thought it would unlock bonus costumes like resident evil back in the day. Good times long gone.
@@Oppen1945 yeah, this is what I meant, it took a long time for them but even then, a lot of them died especially those who cannot adapt fast enough or are weak willed and those are still not used to it were using rebreathers, even the babies as well. It was even so bad that the ISA and its governance didnt give a damn and was essentially starving the helghast to death and if it werent for black markets or other means, the helghast would have all died. Also it is both as well of which were all discarded by the time of killzone 2 and 3 when ISA soldiers can breathe its atmosphere hahahaahahahahja, they really destroyed there own laws in favour of the ISA and just ended up making the Helghast look more favourable.
The Helghast certainly weren't saints, but the conflict was actually started by the ISA and the Vektans. The first Killzone starts from the point of the Helghast retaliation and frames it as if the entire conflict just started there with an unprovoked attack. The ISA were literally working on a biological weapon that only targeted Helghast in an attempt to exterminate all of them.
What I always thought was stupid is the writers implying every helghan is evil by nature and the only way for a helghan to be go is to be mixed. The only pure blood they had the decency to make good was Boris in the psvita game and the guy dies the mission he shows up
I wish there was a captive episode in the KILLZONE: Shadow fall campaign where you would be offered to join the ranks of Helgasts or stay loyal to ISA. If you choose to stay loyal to ISA, then the episode will take place as a stealth action with an escape and the campaign will take place as if you are fighting for the good guys against the bad villains. But if you choose to join the Helgasts, the game becomes a gray moral one, where the defeated Helgasts fight against a tyrannical regime to avenge the genocide of their home planet through guerrilla attacks, terror and murders of civilians and politicians.
For Killzone case, the thing is that entire lore portrayed them as victim most of the time. Like being kicked out of Vecta colony, settle on a hellish planet that they barely survive, treated as exploited extraction economy, and heavy implication that previous government that Autarch took over might be puppet government. I see same issue with Dragon Prince where we are supposed to see both Elves, Dragons, and Humans as morally grey except latter got kicked out for…using magic (even worse in flashback when said mage was supposed to surrender peacefully but the Dragon forced his hand by trying to burn down the city).
I always felt sorry for the Helghast. The game just portrayed them as evil Nazis in space, but if you look at their backstory, you realise the ISA and their Earth Gov. masters are the real assholes, and the Helghast too became assholes as a result of that treatment. It's easy to argue that they could have arisen above such challenges, but look at our world and what happens when you take a broken and desperate people, humiliate them, starve and traumatise them, and then hand them over to a manipulative demagogues who offers them a way out of that darkness, and you get totalitarian horrors like Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union. Evil needs fertile soil to grow in, and the brutal, fascist regime of Helghan under Scholar Visari had a great deal of very fertile and resentful soil to grow in. Seeing the conflict from the Helghast perspective would have been fascinating, but instead we just had to play from the perspective of jingoistic ISA goons like that obnoxious buffoon Rico and his faceless grunt buddies. Oh, you also end up genociding the Helghan population in KZ3 and then you force the survivors in Shadow Fall to live in a segregated apartheid state. Fun stuff. Granted, that lunatic Stahl was planning to nuke Earth with petrusite weapons, but I can't help but feel that's just mad-super-villain plot contrivances to make the Helghast look more EEEEVVVVIIIIIILLLL.
@@Oppen1945 That is true. I suppose they thought they could end up finding freedom elsewhere, but they went from living under the boot-heel of Earth to living under the boot-heel of Helghan's gov.
I still remember the propaganda from KZ2 multiplayer. " You are the true Helghast. Ruthless to those who oppose us. Masters of those we defeat. Unflinching in the face of adversity."
I like how there's 4 killzone games and they completely fail to prove as to why the Helghan are supposed to be bad. "OOh, they wear spooky outfits and their flag is nazish" THE VEKTA KICKED THEM INTO A DUMP PLANET, INVADED SAID PLANET AND THEN KILLED *LITERALLY* EVERYONE THERE!
![Killzone HD ~ Opening Cinematic [Intro]](http://i.ytimg.com/vi/ZXAugWfVb0E/mqdefault.jpg)
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Damn this blew up, thanks you guys. Uh, sub for more stupid stuff like this
Stupid stuff? ISA slime ball!!
Can you link the audio i cant find it anywhere
So how did you know they is now a helghast collob
@@silverbloodborne9495 Vizari told me
Somehow helgen return
"They called me a mad man. And what i predicted came to pass."
Deus Ex devs be like
"Congratulations, you're a prophet"
Austrian painter moment.
Me 10 years ago predicting that the problems caused by brown people coming to Europe are going to escalate and radicalize people
It all comes full circle with the leaked Helghast warbond for Helldivers
NOOOOOO
@@FeelsbanditmanYes!!! *buys warbond*
@@FeelsbanditmanThat's the kind of reaction a bloody *VEKTAN* would have...
😂😂😂
Reeeeeèeeeeeeeeeeeeeee
Plot twist:Someone at Arrowhead Studio saw this video and thought it would be neat to add it in game.
It’s funny now it’s canon due to the kill zone warbond leak
Is it actually real? The leaks look like a mod to me.
@@pepsiman4909it’s real. There’s gameplay footage of using the StA-X3 WASP launcher.
@@pepsiman4909 yeah it's real check your super store and u will find full armor set with %50 resistance acid gas flame and arc damage 1 banner 1 cape 1 title and 1 assault rifle with light armor pen
It's live as of the time of me writing this. Wasp launcher is pretty cool@@pepsiman4909
@@pepsiman4909 can confirm, i have the armour, for halgan!
Helldivers: Political Ad
Helghast: The politician when they get elected
other way around, considering what Super-Earth does to it's population.
@@the-letter_s That's why I said political AD. Because their propaganda is hopeful, optimistic, and jingoistic but they are the Helghast in reality.
@@gimmeyourrights8292 to be fair, the ISA is a better fit for the second part of what you're saying.
Helldivers: Political Ad
The politician when they get elected: ISA
Virgin Helldivers
VS
Chad Helghast
Man, who would've thought this video would foreshadow such a crossover?
HELGHAN MARCHES ON!!
I was thinking the same thing. It is kind of funny if you think about it, the Helgahn are the "enemies of liberty."
@@Soundwave142 for them they fight for their own liberty against the Vektan ISA who they see as oppressors
@@Soundwave142 "The Vektans speak of freedom, but they have no idea what true freedom really is. They are imprisoned by their laws and customs and their so-called civility. They are selfish people. They live frivolous, wasteful lives, possessing neither purpose nor direction. The ISA have no say here, yet they still think they are allowed to meddle in the affairs of a free and law-abiding people. WE are our own masters! The Helghast answers to one one!"
-Jorhan Stahl
@@Soundwave142 I dunno, Helghan did fight oppressors, it was the ISA. We just were playing as the Vektan's instead of Helghan.
Because let's be real, the Helghans are such a badass unit to fight against by default.
Killzone should have had a helghast campaign. They’re not “good”, but they have their justifications, and a perspective from a radicalised fanatic character would have been interesting.
Yes and the helghast drip is immaculate
@@Ring_student_yin_sangTRUE
A broken people pushed beyond the brink.
Forced to become monsters to survive.
We need either a Killzone reboot (with brown colour palette) or even a movie based on Killzone
Sony may be ashamed of their attempts at making an FPS, but it doesn't mean no one likes it
Should, but unfortunately could not. The trilogy's plot was heavily censored due to it originally having very obvious references to irl events (UN supposedly being for equality, but obviously favoring certain countries; NATO creating an image of defensive alliance yet actively expanding and its creation provoking the creation of the Warsaw Pact - i.e. the very force it made its mission to fight against; the U.S. invasion of Iraq, The War on Terror, etc.). Sony feared this might impact the series' sales in the west, thus the devs were constantly "advised" to make said references more ambiguous, change the plot and setting so that its less grey and have the helghast be less sympathetic.
P.S. Iirc, we were supposed to get at least some missions, if not a full-fledged campaign where we play as a helghast soldier in KZ3. Alas, it got scrapped, tutorial being the only thing remaining.
"Super Earth calls for aid!"
"Then Helghan shall answer."
Yeah aged like fine wine.
>"Did you hear? Two grunts from our unit got executed by Radec?"
>"No shit? What for? Cowardice? Defeatism?"
>"Uniform violations. I shit you not."
I shit you not, I looked back to that exact scene when looking for how to do a helghan voice
@@Feelsbanditman Helghan voice lines are the best
@@Feelsbanditmanlung cancer and a lot of military drills
>”The dress code is the foundation of discipline.”
The whole history of Helgahst is very sad
The best thing is that Killzone or more so Helghan is actually just 20th century Germany... But in space.so Yeah fuck the ISA
@@Delta_3VIII I don’t remember whole story but still: abandoned on a planet with harsh environment, bombarded by chemical weapons, oppressed, sick and poor, but still proud and standing tall against so called “good guys” from ISA.
@@bloodwriter1 They weren't abandoned there, they were forced out of their homes and dumped there.
@@Sujad that’s even worse m8
@@bloodwriter1 Exactly my point.
The Helghast are such an underrated sci-fi faction. How they dress, how they act, how they speak, the weapons they use, the tanks and ships they have, the mobile factories and giant walkers they have. I can only imagine an RTS game with the Helghast.
@@dkkanofkash8798 Don't forget Mael "Chad" Radec. Fucker had no business dying the way he did.
Imagine an RTS or wargame where you could also control teams/squads like as a milsim lol
So I can already imagine Helghast troops varying from infantrymen to even spec ops
I still want a game in which the Helghast encounter the Chimera from resistance and its a war between them
I love how their guns use cylindrical mags, especially the STG-42 machine gun
Killzone 2 was the peak design, especially with the consideration a lot of their ground vehicles are repurposed mining equipment, it shows just how dedicated they are to fight.
"Who are you?"
"You, but stronger!"
“I’m you but with no pretense.”
@@ultimor1183 "I'm the Darkness within you that Carl Jung talks about."
How can it be dark if you engage in it in the light?
The Helghast got their asses handed to them in the games.
@@psychomantis2485 They didn't lmao, what revisionism are you trying to spout?
I will never forgive Guerilla Games for ending the franchise on a horrid game and then forgetting about Killzone altogether
:( i liked it
Naughty dog forgot about Jak in favor of cinematic 3rd person narrative driven games and Guerilla games did the same thing with KZ. Such is the way for modern PlayStation
@sixmillionisimpossible the robots are the only enjoyable thing about those series, otherwise it feels like they're catering to the twitter crowd
But screw that, we should revive Killzone
@@timur5219 I blame Sony more than anyone else. People gnash their teeth over EA, or Blizzard, but nobody has murdered more franchises than Sony itself.
@@Broken_Savior real
"Ten years ago, I asked for time, and that time was granted by you. You: the strength in my arm, the holders of my dreams..."
With the new Killzone armor and the fact that there's a planet called Solghast, I think it's safe to say that KZ is canon to Helldivers and Stal Arms was integrated into the Super Military Industrial Complex
The implication of The ISA being steamrolled by a united force of Helldivers and Helghast Assault Troopers has me rolling. Vekta didn't deserve those yellow bellied cowards anyways.
@@Nostroman_Praetor Real asf
I hated that I couldn't join the Helghast in the Killzone games. The ISA were just scum trying to play the good guys, and don't even get me started on Rico the Retard. Always bad mouthing the beautiful people of Helghan.
They will call it liberty, equality, democracy™, but never freedom
Yes
Liberty is just another word for freedom. However, you can't have liberty and democracy, one counteracts the other
@@t.j.wwagner1176maybe for the corporation’s. But a proper democracy with the slightly restrained hand of the market and good workers rights is the freest and most well of the common man can get.
@@kingcrafteroderderfahradtu7331Marxists democracy wants to have a word
@@kingcrafteroderderfahradtu7331 Democracy is where the majority dictates what the people are and aren't allowed to do. For example, let's say in a democratic country, the majority believes that homosexuality should be illegal; Therefore, it is unlawful because of the will of the majority. If someone's fitting can be taken away due to the popular vote, I hesitate to call it free
The funny thing is, if I remember correctly, the devs never intended to make Killzone morally grey, like the Helghast were supposed to just be the straight up bad guys. But the Vektans, the "good guys" that you play as, were such assholes to the Helghast that the entirety of Killzone youre constantly asking yourself "Am I the baddy?"
"are we the baddies?"
@@KingKimwer I remember getting into the Second Game (my personal favorite from the franchise by the by) and constantly wondering:
"They fucked off to their own planet - Why are we screwing with these guys again?"
And you find yourself asking that over and over, especially by the time you are well into KZ3: "Why are we exterminating the entire goddamn planet wait what why--?!"
@@Broken_Savior the ending of KZ3 completely baffled me. Wasnt enough that the two main "heroes" murdered the Helghan king (in cold blood out of rage), in the previous game but now their entire planet is dead and the Helghast have been genocided.
Really? I'd heard the opposite that they wanted it morally grey but higher ups told them to tone it down, and that's why we never got a Helghast campaign in the whole series.
@@LordVader1094 come to think of it ive heard both accounts, i heard they wanted to make the metaphors even more on the nose but sony wouldnt let them
Something about fighting the Helghan when you're young makes you feel like a hero.
But, once you've gotten older, you realise it's just war.
And the ending of Killzone 3 really makes me think: We just glassed an entire planet full of Helghast.
Until Killzone ShadowFall came, and I was like: WTF am I doing?
I remember watching Helghan die when I was 12. At first it felt like victory. We'd won the day against the bad guys, good prevails once more and light shines upon a grateful Mankind. As I got older though that victory became hollow when I delved into the lore behind the First and Second Extrasolar Wars. Makes you wonder if, even though the Helghast would have undoubtedly continued on the warpath, was the death of not just billions of men, women and children, but an entire *planet*, worth it all?
I never thought of them as the bad Guys nor did i feel like a Hero, i was always highly suspicious of any Character or Faction portrayed as the good Guys, because in 90% of the Cases they are not
@@basedlegionary6877 just like real life
Yeah dude but who gives a shit the helghast are derived from Nazis, you're not supposed to be fucking sympathetic you are INSANE
@@basedlegionary6877THE HELGHAST ARE BASED ON NAZIS YOU FUCKING DONKEY DUMBASS
The irony that we now have an active collab between helldivers and Killzone did you predict the future
"the thing with the Killzone series is that the Helghast seemed to have nothing but legitimate grievances but are assigned the role of bad guys solely because they wear Nazi hats."-zero punctuation
The Stahlhelm ain't Nazi. Its only called Nazi Because of retards.
For fucks sake it was created during WWI then used throughout post WWI by everyone who got stuff from Germany.
Theirs people today still using a modernized Stahlhelm design.
@@JacobColeman-tu3sbThat's what I've been trying to tell people for eons but no one freaking listens.
@@altechelghanforever9906 Uh what? Why are you talking to me I didn't even comment toward you?
I mean i think i did but i ain't seeing my comment.
The funny thing is, eveery time i recall Killzone, i only have the Helghan in my mind, pretty much like Farcry´s Vaas, Pagan Min or Joseph Seed. Such characters stuck to your mind
It's a shame we never got a Killzone game with a Helghast campaign - that would skyrocket the sales..
But it's great to see folks remembering the true heroes of mankind
"Helghast campaign"
"NoOoOoOo tHeN tHaT bE sUpPoRtInG NeO-tRuMp-FaR rIgHt-WhItE-NaZi-FaScIsM!" - Every woke, soy drinking, SJW, BLM, ANTIFA, gay, Champagne Socialist, Twitter/Reddit user.
Ah yes, the "heroes of mankind" that sought to petrusite bomb Earth and make it uninhabitable.
@@fallout44454well... Wouldn't have happened if the Terrans/ISA treated the Helghast a little better... Also something that i could say About certain stuff from the last century 👀
@@fallout44454 Yeah, says the one who made a DNA virus targeting only a specific race of humans, as if having to breathe through a mask wasn't bad enough with space cancer.
@@Delta_3VIIInah bruh, they would do it regardless
Helghast are some of the best anti-villains in fiction.
Why so?
@@ChaseDaOrk3767 Because they're rightfully justified when it comes to the entire lore.
@@ChaseDaOrk3767surface they're space Nazis. Dig just a lil bit and you realize they were nearly genocided and forced off of a fertile Earth like planet and onto a hellhole making their existence suffering by a morally righteous coalition from the old world. Their survival response turned into their current extreme iteration, but they didn't "start the fire" so to say. Only now, everyone's getting burned 🫠
@@ChaseDaOrk3767Their hatred of the ISA is perfectly justified. The ISA invaded Vekta, the original home world of the Helghast people, for resources and exiled their entire population to the radioactive wasteland known as Helghan.
@@DPRK_Best_Korea I suppose that makes sense
"Cool armor! How'd y-"
*_"IF YOU WERE EVEN OLD ENOUGH TO ENLIST, CHILD, I'D HAVE YOU SENT HOME FOR DARING TO SHOW UP IN SUCH TACKY ARMAMENTS!_* Who even wears a goddamned CAPE to a war?!?"
Edna Mode would be furious.
@@Honkious5824
"NO CAPES!"
I support them not super earth tho
>"Did you hear? Two grunts from our unit got executed by Radec?"
>"No shit? What for? Cowardice? Defeatism?"
>"Uniform violations. I shit you not."
Knowing what I know about Radec...well, someone dressed up like a Helldiver might get sent "home" in a sense...just not the household they were born and raised in.
Honestly just because their the *BADGUY* army they actually had families and children they loved and fought for, a helghast soldier lost his family due to the extermination of helghan and said so in killzone 4
There's a Killzone 4?
@@JerichoYeet Yes but I don't think you can buy it anymore, especially since the online servers were shut down about two years ago. The campaign is alright though.
Are you talking about shadowfall ?
@@Glitchedpixel5 yes he is an yeah the online is offline but a tone down bot zone multi an botzone in 3 were great time wasters
Helghan only got destroyed because the Helghast's own weapons, meant to destroy Earth, backfired and destroyed Helghan instead.
You ain’t gonna believe this
the news gave me a fucking heart attack man
@@Feelsbanditman You just did the Simpson moments 💀
@@Feelsbanditman for Helghan!
What other predictions shall you make, oh prophet! What other badass crossovers shall we have?
Looking at the Helgan lore, these guys are the equivalent of the quiet guy at school that get bullied until they snap and tell their only buddy not to come to school tomorrow
They really try to make you mad at the with the Weimar Republic look while you're activelyinvading their planet to "end a coup." Its a penal colony and I'm supposed to feel bad for the guys that started the fight? Tf guerilla?
Ironically, in their attempt to thwart a rebellion, the ISA created their worst nightmare: An enemy so hateful, they will never stop to strive for the ISA's ultimate destruction.
Thank you Bandit for remind me about this
I almost forgot what Lord Visari told me in the past to know my faith and what I have to do in the present to get the strength because *the future is my birthright!!!!*
"The truth is, Diver. Is that you're here to become something you're simply not... a hero."
Out of all the reasons to be like the Helghast, the Helghast have that reason. "But they're crazy and genocidal!" They currently live in slums on a planet whose atmosphere is trying to kill them, I cannot think of a better reason to try and get back your property.
I'd even say they probably did too good of a job at making them sympathetic villains because by the end of it, even though they're not the "good guys", I knew the ISA were the bad guys. That opening in Killzone 1 really set the stage for it, you just see a hospital with a bunch of guys dying, coughing their lungs out, losing their hair and all that, really pulls the heart strings
So true. Nice comment.
@sixmillionisimpossible Also forgot the part as to why they Shock and Awe'd Vekta, it was because they were complete and total morons who ended up nuking themselves and wanted back land they already sold
@sixmillionisimpossible American world policing is very, very bad, unless Ukraine needs to launder money, and Israel decides to protect itself.
Then, by all means, please intervene, Uncle Sam, right?
@Broken_Savior I wonder whats the connection between ukraine and isreal leaders...mhm...🤔
@@KateHikes83TJD Oy vey, stop noticing plz
Cant wait till I'm able to renounce my loyalty to Super Earth and fight for Helghan when the new Warbond drops.
Super Earth will know, Helghan belongs to the Helghast
[TERMINATE ILLEGAL BROADCAST]
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picture this: you won an auction and your auctioneer stabs you in the back because you profited too much.
that's the shortest tl;dr of helghasts
Ah a fellow ace combat fan I see
@@lobsterman7153 if i get a nickel for every time i hear "[antagonist faction] did nothing wrong" because of the backstory, i'd have 2 nickels
@@BasedBelkan8492Which it's not a lot but it's weird two niggas hit me twice from the back 🥵
@@BasedBelkan8492 It’s all Belka’s fault.
But it was really funny.
Bro definitely had a vision.
This aged fine like wine.
Helghans shall make generations upon generations of Helldivers shiver down their democratic core on thr rawpower of the Helghan people.
The irony is that Killzone series never resolved the conflict. Helghan and Vecta fought a massive war with use of WMDs that resulted in tens of millions of dead(mostly helghast, but also millions vectans) and none of it mattered since Vecta was following orders from Earth and even threw themselves to protect Earth in the end of KZ3, only for Earth immediately backstab Vecta again and demand that they accept all helghast refugees alone or Earth and core worlds would force them.
Tl:dr - Helghast literally fought against (Super) Earth government and their puppet, Vecta.
DEFENDERS OF THE HELGHAST DREAM
NOW IS OUR TIME !
When I used to play “PlayStation Allstars” and a Killzone soldier was there, I was a menace on the battlefield. Only rarely losing.
Now I’ve come full circle, as a Helldiver to never lose again.
Radec?
Sounds like it
Helghast drip go hard.
All hail the Helgahst!
Remember our fallen brothers and sisters of Helghan!For the Visari's legacy!Long live Helghan Empire!
"My people... Sons and Daughters of Helghan... For many years, we have been a broken nation: shunned, oppressed, and conquered by those we sought to escape. Ten years ago, I asked for time, and that time was granted by you. You: the strength in my arm, the holders of my dreams... Our forefathers embarked on the greatest exodus in the history of all mankind. An exodus for freedom, Helghan became that freedom. Our new world changed our bodies. At first, it weakened us, but in fact, we were growing... stronger. In the time you have given me, I have rebuilt our nation, I have rebuilt our strength, and I have rebuilt our pride! Our enemies at home have been re-educated; we have given them new insights into our cause. On this day, we stand united once more. On this day, those driven to divide us will hear our voice! On this day, we shall act as one, and we shall be ignored NO MORE! Defenders of the Helghast dream, NOW IS OUR TIME!"
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Helghast drip is unmatched
Every individual Helghast unit, especially in the second game, should be commended for that mix of WW2 German, dieselpunk, industrial sci-fi and 1980s-2000s American hybrid. Not every day you get a guy with welder's goggles, a rebreather, American PASGT-style helmet (ironically similar to the German Stahlhelm) all in a mud-soaked dust-covered grey-black uniform in media.
SHUNNED. OPPRESSED. AND CONQUERED BY THOSE WE SOUGH TO ESCAPE!
off topic but seeing NCR ranger, helldivers, and helghast soldiers in 1 spot shows faceless soldiers are unbeatable in terms of aesthetics
Cant wait for this meme to be re created ingame.
Berhaps
This man is a prophet. Helldivers 2 got a Killzone 2 collab
Considering the new bundle that just came out, this hits even harder
Brian Cox did such an INSANE job with the voice for Scolar Visari, he is by far my favorite sci/fi "villain", despite not having nearly enough screen presence.
The speeches and his voice completely sells him as a dictator the Helghast would put their undying faith in. Incredible stuff.
It’s been years....Was a kid when I played Killzone. Thought Helghast were cool.
Grown up, they’re not just cool, but Justified.
Long Live Helghan
And seeing that Zaku as your pfp I can see that aesthetic stuck with you, good taste m8
Almost nothing that the Visari, Orlock, and Stahl regimes are responsible for were justified. Go back through the series and pay attention to what they actually do. They violently suppress free thought. They run a monopolized economy that treats its workers like trash. They force their people to live in densely packed slums. They force them to sacrifice themselves for the regime. They execute their own soldiers for uniform violations. They nuked their own capital just to slow the ISA down. They deliberately slaughtered civilians indiscriminately when they invaded Vekta in the first game. They planned to exterminate the entire population of Earth and subjugate the whole galaxy under their tyrannical regime. When Helghan got glassed, it was because their own weapons were accidentally detonated on Helghan instead of Earth. And EVEN AFTER all of that, the ISA GAVE THEM HALF OF VEKTA TO LIVE ON.
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Helldiver: "Who are you?"
Helghast: "I am free."
Helldiver: Who are you?
Helghast: a subhuman terrorist
@@Adventeuan still freer than a helldiver.
@@Adventeuan ISA goober
for Killzone players out there that thinks "damn, I wish I could play as the bad guys, they look so cool" u literally play as the bad guys in the entire franchise, the ISA are the bad guys but less cool
This was foreshadowing
The only thing that makes helldivers scared, a planet that is actually fighting for freedom for the right reason
Righteous Retribution is a white hot rage
@@Integritys_Sum what?
@@MartianWasp he's agreeing with you
@@joshuaeffendi491 thank you
Seceding is a declaration of war on its own, it undermines the authority of the government lowering the trust of the populace, rather blow up a planet than lose support.
I want a Killzone game that lets you play as the good guys.
ISA are space jews.
@@woodrowcall3158 ISA are the allies and also the good guys lol
@@slimboarder.o7
Yep. I love the ISA.
This is even better with the Killzone collab being a thing now
Helghast are what Helldivers could have become if Automatons had conquered and taken Super Earth lol, and I'm very happy to see Killzone memes this recently!
I think a better comparison is that the helghan are like the cyborgs, and super earth is like the ISA
@@generalgrievous2202 Sniff Sniff, I smell TREASON!
The Helghast now fight with Super Earth. In time, the enemies of our combined front will fear us. My Brothers and Sisters, bring onto them a reckoning to echo generations onward!"
Long live the Helghan Nation. Sony may have forgotten, but we have not.
My dad used to love the opening cutscene, he would let it play out every time we booted up the game. He once ran through the campaign on the hardest difficulty with each character because he thought it would unlock bonus costumes like resident evil back in the day. Good times long gone.
This aged well....
its so crazy that this is gonna be canon now with the new killzone armor warbond lol
This aged like a fine wine
Their oppressors were cruel, and so they were taught to be even more, more than them.
@@Oppen1945 Bruh the ISA booted them to there after they (ISA) took over Vekta 💀💀💀
@@xDEADLOCKEDx2468not to mention even the planet is killing a majority of them, leaving only the strongest to survive
@@xDEADLOCKEDx2468 they willingly left helgans and vectans are litteraly thé same exept helghast is Germany and vectans the alliés
@@slimboarder.o7 Oh boy, another imperialist bot deliberately spreading misinformation for the interest of corporatist big wigs.
@@Oppen1945 yeah, this is what I meant, it took a long time for them but even then, a lot of them died especially those who cannot adapt fast enough or are weak willed and those are still not used to it were using rebreathers, even the babies as well.
It was even so bad that the ISA and its governance didnt give a damn and was essentially starving the helghast to death and if it werent for black markets or other means, the helghast would have all died.
Also it is both as well of which were all discarded by the time of killzone 2 and 3 when ISA soldiers can breathe its atmosphere hahahaahahahahja, they really destroyed there own laws in favour of the ISA and just ended up making the Helghast look more favourable.
Super Earth asks for the Sons and Daughters of Helghan, THEY SHALL HAVE THEM.
The Helghast certainly weren't saints, but the conflict was actually started by the ISA and the Vektans. The first Killzone starts from the point of the Helghast retaliation and frames it as if the entire conflict just started there with an unprovoked attack. The ISA were literally working on a biological weapon that only targeted Helghast in an attempt to exterminate all of them.
"Defenders of the Helghast Dream, NOW IS OUR TIME!"
This is literally the only worthwhile crossover that’s ever occurred I’m in my entire life.
Don't ask Visari where's his speech inspired from (Still a banger and ready to fight the ISA while having lung cancer)
DO YOU WANT TOTAL WAR?
@@through-faith-alone Only if we get coolest drip
Question why that speech was given to begin with
and thats why he's the goat, THE GOAT!!!
@@through-faith-alone
Totaling Sneed
What I always thought was stupid is the writers implying every helghan is evil by nature and the only way for a helghan to be go is to be mixed.
The only pure blood they had the decency to make good was Boris in the psvita game and the guy dies the mission he shows up
@newtonmarques1271 I mean, its just like a certain people from irl
they cooked with mercenary
Crazy forshadowing
Glad to know people still remember killzone!
this aged well especially since the helghast are in helldivers now
Even after a decade since Killzone's heyday, the Helghast is still popular.
This is now canon
This video was ahead of it’s time.
helghast armor leaks make this even better
The meme is now real
They’re both ruled by the code of cool
I wish there was a captive episode in the KILLZONE: Shadow fall campaign where you would be offered to join the ranks of Helgasts or stay loyal to ISA. If you choose to stay loyal to ISA, then the episode will take place as a stealth action with an escape and the campaign will take place as if you are fighting for the good guys against the bad villains. But if you choose to join the Helgasts, the game becomes a gray moral one, where the defeated Helgasts fight against a tyrannical regime to avenge the genocide of their home planet through guerrilla attacks, terror and murders of civilians and politicians.
Apollo, Oh Apollo, grant us foresight as you have to this man.
We rise once more brothers and sisters
If super earth gets in our way they shall be torn down
'That generations yet born will cry out in anguish!'
Helghan armour looks really really good.
Apollo grants The Gift Of Prophecy to his funniest random internet users
For Killzone case, the thing is that entire lore portrayed them as victim most of the time.
Like being kicked out of Vecta colony, settle on a hellish planet that they barely survive, treated as exploited extraction economy, and heavy implication that previous government that Autarch took over might be puppet government.
I see same issue with Dragon Prince where we are supposed to see both Elves, Dragons, and Humans as morally grey except latter got kicked out for…using magic (even worse in flashback when said mage was supposed to surrender peacefully but the Dragon forced his hand by trying to burn down the city).
In before Emperor Visari's legion of shooters arise from the dead to descend on Helldivers 2
I always felt sorry for the Helghast. The game just portrayed them as evil Nazis in space, but if you look at their backstory, you realise the ISA and their Earth Gov. masters are the real assholes, and the Helghast too became assholes as a result of that treatment.
It's easy to argue that they could have arisen above such challenges, but look at our world and what happens when you take a broken and desperate people, humiliate them, starve and traumatise them, and then hand them over to a manipulative demagogues who offers them a way out of that darkness, and you get totalitarian horrors like Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union.
Evil needs fertile soil to grow in, and the brutal, fascist regime of Helghan under Scholar Visari had a great deal of very fertile and resentful soil to grow in.
Seeing the conflict from the Helghast perspective would have been fascinating, but instead we just had to play from the perspective of jingoistic ISA goons like that obnoxious buffoon Rico and his faceless grunt buddies.
Oh, you also end up genociding the Helghan population in KZ3 and then you force the survivors in Shadow Fall to live in a segregated apartheid state. Fun stuff. Granted, that lunatic Stahl was planning to nuke Earth with petrusite weapons, but I can't help but feel that's just mad-super-villain plot contrivances to make the Helghast look more EEEEVVVVIIIIIILLLL.
@@Oppen1945 That is true. I suppose they thought they could end up finding freedom elsewhere, but they went from living under the boot-heel of Earth to living under the boot-heel of Helghan's gov.
"evil nazis".. If indeed there is such a thing
@sixmillionisimpossiblehow so care to explain please?
@@Oppen1945 they left after EarthGov invaded and stripped them of both national and fiscal independence, along with revoking all of their rights.
Can we appreciate the Banger Sountrack of Killzone
Ave Joris de Man
I thought I'm the only fan of the Helghast?
This aged well
I still remember the propaganda from KZ2 multiplayer. " You are the true Helghast. Ruthless to those who oppose us. Masters of those we defeat. Unflinching in the face of adversity."
this dude predicted the future
I like how there's 4 killzone games and they completely fail to prove as to why the Helghan are supposed to be bad. "OOh, they wear spooky outfits and their flag is nazish" THE VEKTA KICKED THEM INTO A DUMP PLANET, INVADED SAID PLANET AND THEN KILLED *LITERALLY* EVERYONE THERE!
The Sons and Daughters of Helghan did not come to Super Earth.
Super Earth came to Helghan. 😁
This aged so well
Aged like a fine wine
Brings a tear to my eye. We must bring our Helghast glory to Helldivers!
My friend, do I have news for you.
Let's be honest, there's a good chunk of us that imagine we fight as Helghast for super earth and not as Helldivers😂
*"VICTORY OR DEATH!"* - Every Helghast Grunt.
The Helgahst were done dirty
This aged well like fine wine