The Never Ending Sonic Game
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 15 ส.ค. 2022
- Today I wanted to talk about Blue Sphere.
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"Yknow, there's probably some guy out there who really, *really* loves this game. Like it's his favorite game in the world. Like he wakes up everyday excited to play new Blue Sphere levels. Wherever you are Blue Sphere Guy, I salute you." -Cybershell, 2017
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I'm that guy 😭🤚
It's patrika Bob he is blue sphere guy aswell as me exept I don't film it
man
That would be me! I freaking love Blue Sphere! And I intend to beat the whole game, plus the Sonic mania ones too. Not sure about Origins, can't get over how they ruined Sonic 3 music. Oh well. Go figure.
When I was a tiny lad, I had the amazing idea of trying to finish all of blue spheres. I managed to get around level 50 and then rage quitted xD
I toyed with the idea too lol but after doing the math (~2 minutes per stage), I found out that it'll take me a few hundred years to beat them all soooo nope 😂
@@kirotalksyt Each stage has a code. Find the codes and split up groups of levels into manageable chunks. Give different youtubers different sets of levels to beat and record. Upload the videos into an in order playlist. If you get enough people to work on it, them eventually, maybe in a single lifetime we could collectively beat every stage and leave a record for people to marvel at for generations to come. A playlist with hundreds of years worth of content. To fully document all that blue spears has to offer.
@@samtheweebo I'm down for it. This video reminded me of my list of levels I've beaten and I wouldn't mind doing it again
I tried to do that too and got to around level 650 (mostly with perfect clears). Shortly after, I found out there were millions of stages, and I stopped haha
@@samtheweebo What an amazing idea!! A big blue spheres collab!
In theory, if you changed Sonic 1/2's serial number to Sonic 3's the Sonic 1/2 would either
1: Be broken
2: work with broken textures
3: Load Sonic & Knuckles
4: SEEEEEGAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA
Cereal number
Sonic 2 works thanks to Sonic 2 and Knuckles, but as soon as you get into the prototypes, aside fron the earliest ones which had S1's serial number and Beta 7 (Which had its serial number corrupted for some reason, giving you a new Blue Spheres stage) the Sonic 2 and Knuckles will try to apply itself but the first few different pointers will throw it off and cause it to get stuck in a boot loop. (Redhotsonic already made a video testing the S2 prototypes's compatibility with S&K. None of them worked, although the noise it made when resetting gradually slowed down as the prototypes advanced, probably due to more of the patch being able to be applied before the game would reset.)
So no, forcing the S3 or S2 patch on the wrong game wouldn't work.
what the heck is sonic half
from what i understand compatibility with 1 was in the works but got axed early enough for nothing usable to remain, someone has recreated it but thats a modified rom so it doesnt really answer your question
Blue Balls, let's gooooooo
Seriously though, I think this is my favorite bonus stage. Having it as a "secret" minigame to handle incompatible carts linked to S&K was fun, and maybe good practice to get Chaos Emeralds. My cousin, ever the liar to gullible young me, told me that attaching Comix Zone let you play as Archie Sonic.
Sally mod for Comix Zone when
eh I'd argue the ones in cd are the best
Fun fact : the blue spheres you saw were actually called "blue balls" but got changed for some reason
What the fuck furry?
GET BLUE BALLS!
big 🔵🔵
When I was a child, I always hated the blue sphere in Mega Collection, simply because I had no idea how to start the game. The title screen always catches my attention whenever I see it, and it really annoyed me because I didn't know how to start it, and I felt like the title screen was just taunting me because of it...
I had that same issue as well.
yes me too!
NO WAY? NO WAY! NO WAY! NO WAY? NO WAY! NO WAY!
Because it repeated “NO WAY!”, right?
@@marsoulini no way! No way! No way! No way! No way? No way! No way! No way!
Well, SEGA does have the bragging rights of releasing the first ever commerical backwards compatible console. The Mark III (otherwise known as the Sega Master System outside of Japan) had backwards compatibility with Sega SG-1000 games. When it was brought over to the US though, they were marketed as budget titles. They were really ahead of their time back then.
Cool!
@@omocahofan1746 ikr
Genesis is also backwards compatible with Master System games but it needs an adapter for cartridges.
Sega was always a pioneer. they just ended up taking too many new steps in wrong directions.
@@YouShisha1393Unless you get the Phantasy Star rerelease in a Mega Drive cartridge shell.
Quite a few "Game Gear" games were also just Master System games in a Game Gear shell.
I'm still waiting for someone to stream beating ALL of the Blue Sphere stages. It would be an event
The only person i can think crazy enough to do this would be Charriii5
just take a minute to see HOW MANY sonic games he has played!
@@AltKaxREAL I'm kind of upset I didn't see him get to unleashed live on stream today
There is. Theres a guy who posts 1 video a day of himself beating a special stage. Hes done it for a long time, I cant remember the person atm I dont watch it, I dont sub to them, I found it randomly and thought it was hilarious
@@MoneyHoneyBunny please tell us! There is a way you can look up videos that you have watched in the past
@@MoneyHoneyBunny poptropica bob. He is up to Level 214!
You can also play all the blue sphere games by plugging in Sonic Classics. It’s a compilation of Sonic 1, Sonic 2, and Dr Robotnik Mean Bean Machine. The reason is because the game is actually bigger then 2 megabytes. But the compilation has each game individual rom. Sonic 2 is the first rom on the cartridge, and it takes up half of the total compilation rom. Sonic and Knuckles reads only the second half of the room when a rom size is too big. But the next rom file after Sonic 2 is Sonic 1. So it see the Sonic 1 rom header. Basically, it recognizes it as Sonic 1.
I'm surprised he didn't mention that in the video
@@raspberry1440kb I actually expected him to mention this as he just gave all of the explanation required to properly mention it, but then he just starts talking about Blue Spheres itself.
The best part is if S&K read the first 2 MiB, it would play Knuckles in Sonic 2 just fine.
The only thing better would have been if you could switch banks to play either option.
my favorite part is when the blue sphere says "it's spherin time" and then blue sphered all the blue spheres
truly one of the sonic games ever made
This is why I never watched morbius.
@@therealestcupheadonyt silence jellymid pfp
@@jaxolon333 *UGHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH*
what the hell is the obsession with morbius, i don't like it, fight me.
Morbius isnt bad
Blue Sphere is unironically one of the best Sonic games ever, and I'm glad it's getting the love it deserves.
And before you ask, yes, I am addicted to it.
How many levels have you beaten? 🤔
@@SonicandHighwayDude401 I'm in the 200-300 range going by the level counter but that's including all the times I've gotten perfects, so I'd say it's probably closer to about 50 unique levels
@@yeahitsscott On my Channel, I've celebrated hitting 1,000 unique levels and 1,342 unique levels respectively. After that, I've lost count. I'd say I'm somewhat close to 2,000 unique levels. (I've been playing since 2019).
@@SonicandHighwayDude401 ah, see I just started this year
We found him cybershell
"There is one more thing it needs..." AD PLAYS. Me: God, that's terrifying.
Okay, That's Good!
Ad:Tasty chicken
OK
i got a cheetos ad
I got Subway ad
Mines was reeses
I love how a little Easter egg from the 90s has so much history and lore
* WOW
I once screwed up a science experiment using this game.
Back when I was a kid, some of my classmates were trying to prove that video games stress people out. They tested resting pulse, and pulse after playing for a while in order to prove their thesis.
I was the only one whose pulse was lower after playing a few levels than before. They had to retest me after my heart rate normalized to make sure they didn't mess up somewhere.
Got to miss a bunch of class for this, it was great
I remember having Blue Spheres running on Sonic 1 for days as I tried to beat all the levels. Little did I know there were 134,217,728 levels at the time...
Technically there's only 128,016,000 levels but there are 268,435,455 stages.
No way! No way! No way? No way! No way! No way! No way? No way! No way! No way! No way? No way! No way! No way! No way? No way! No way! No way! No way? No way! Is my favorite game!
Props to Blue Spheres No Way Screen for having the most worst looking Tails I’ve ever seen.
Makes Bench Tails and Trolled Tails look like official art.
nothing perks me up more than the line *GET BLUE SPHERES*
3DS Generations also has Blue Sphere(s) based on the Heroes special stages- Surprisingly, it isn't with the touch screen like most other DS Family special stages.
He mentioned them.
I'm sad that I'm only just learning that the "& Knuckles!" meme is actually real. A special cartridge adapter that modifies the original games? Incredible. Technology has come so far since then, with game mods having become so much more accessible.
Blue Sphere is one of the most game ever created. When the game said "It's Blue Sphere Time", it's really the moment ever. This game is just really.
I remember during my summer vacation, I took one humid night to binge on blue sphere after playing the other locked on carts to death. It was challenging and sometimes frustrating to get through levels. Upon playing so much i was thinking when is the last level. Now over 30 years i find out from this video. Really mind boggling stuff.
The Knuckles Chaotix special stage reminds me of the flash game called Run. Wouldn't be surprised if that's where they got the inspiration
I'm so happy I woke up to a new kiro talks video because I was just watching the awkward era sonic video and I had watched every video on your chanel, so I'm happy I can watch this today
Now we need to wait for the full release of kiro: the best game eva made
Brittany Bluesphere's favorite game of all time
The many times i beat sonic 3&K(6 times), this never gets old.
I've beaten the game 11 times!
@@SonicandHighwayDude401 wow!
you're underrated as heck honestly, I love your videos
Orbs: 🥸
Blue Sphere: 😀
Blue Spheres:😎
Blue balls:🍷
Man I love you channel since the first video, keep it up 👑
Thanks for sticking around and supporting for so long, it means a lot 🤗
I played blue spheres all of the time and loved it when I was younger. Lol that intro
The fun with this game is ENDLESS
man you channel is growing FAST
I love this channel so much. This channel is like the definition of a good sonic-tuber seriously Krio keep these amazing videos up
the moment i saw the knuckles chaoticx special stages i teared up in nostalg for the good old flash game
I am amazed how much you grew kiro keep up the good work
also who was here when this channel started? I was
Hey! I've been enjoying your videos since the first one, and i decided to subscribe!
I remember being there when there were only 53 subscribers!
you blew up over night bro! i subbed when you were at around 600 subs
Great content, great voice, you love to see it
These vids are so entertaining for me for some reason.
What a great video. I love this!
I would spend HOURS playing Blue Spheres just out of curiosity to see how far I could go. Back before online information was widespread, it felt like something of an adventure.
BLUE SPHERE
How far did you get? And do you still have some levels I can play?
@@SonicandHighwayDude401 I got into like... the level 100+ range. Maybe as far as 300 even. But there are password generators you can find online to go to any level you want!
@@MowseChao Yeah, I know that. It's just I'm in a phase where I'm taking suggestions so I can personally play them, and give shoutouts to whoever suggested the level(s).
Man I can't wait to lock on doom eternal to my mega drive,
Great video
I went all in on this game as a kid!
me and my brother played to stage 458 before we took a break... sadly the break never ended
Sweet video as always!
I suggest you could also make some videos on other franchises... like Kirby?
Thanks! I love Kirby, so I could definitely see that happening.
Love your content a lot, really consistently high quality shit. Keep it up.
Hey, appreciate the support, thanks!
You deserve way more subs!
Thanks I really love playing with big blue spheres
That’s why every loves blue sphere, it’s a randomly generated special stage
Actually, the Levels aren't randomly generated. There is a set equation for the 4 chunks on the map. And there are 128 Quadrants numbered 0-127. In fact, The Top Right is the only slot to feature all 128 Quadrants. The Bottom Right only features up to 127 Quadrants (0-126). The Top Left only features up to 126 Quadrants (0-125), and Bottom Left only features up to 125 Quadrants (0-124). Here are the Equations:
TR: (N-1)%128
BR: (3N-2)%127
TL: (5N-3)%126
BL: (7N-5)%125
20years ago randomly seeing this screen and NEVER ONCE did I press the buttons at the same time.
This is a good video great job
The 3d Vector Bonus levels we're from Knuckles Chaotix for Sega 32X
I really do learn a lot from this channel! Never knew how deep this game went.
I'm glad you got something out of it. The more people that know weird Sonic trivia, the better!
@@kirotalksyt I can explain the algorithm of how each level is generated and the math behind how to get the Difficulty.
Basically, I can go in deeper in the game development.
It's me...I am the Bluesphere guy.
I remembered back in my day, curiously putting the Sonic 1 in the S&K cartridge!!!! 😆
2:55 I remember in Sonic Mega Collection Plus, you can unlock Comix Zone if you have a save file of Sonic Heroes on your memory card
We need a download for your masterpiece genesis game
"Blue Sphere with no S"
Oh yes, my favorite, Blue Phere.
i can tell this channel is gonna go far, subbing at 16k
i hope someone, someday does a whole stream marathon where they attempt to beat every single blue sphere level, new blue sphere and mania blue sphere included. it sounds like absolute insanity but also kinda interesting
500+ years later...
"guys I did it!"
everyone is fucking dead
Would be impossible...
be the change you want to see
nice to see someone make a video on blue spheres
I've made multiple videos based on the game.
This is the greatest video about blue sphere I’ve ever seen
Take a shot every time Kiro says "Blue spheres"
🎶 this is the sonic that never ends
it just goes on and on my friend 🎶
Oh Boy! I can’t wait to play Kiro: The Game On My Sega Genesis!!!
I love collecting these *BLUE BALLS* ...
THE FUN NEVER ENDS
FUN IS INFINITE
YOU NEVER STOOD A CHANCE
Never did I think I'd see the day where a Sonic game proceeds 6 digits in terms of levels. Thx for the assessment on the game!
Sonic Colors DS also has blue spheres (as well as red and yellow).
If Mania and Origins have both the original Blue Sphere and the Remixed "Blue Spheres 2" mode with new sphere types and features, then you can think of Blue "Spheres" as plural. There's multiple Sphere
Awesome video 🔵💥💪💙
I remember seeing somethinf about this some decade or two ago and really wanted to play it on my PC version of S3&K. It had some decent detailing about it, but never understood how to get it to happen. Thinking on it now, I'm sure the music would REALLY haunt me, especially if I would try to muscle my way through playing all of them..
Good video bro
Lol
The Special Stage for Sonic Colors DS had you collecting Blue, Yellow and Red spheres and that game came out before Sonic Mania. I think Somic Heroes also had Blue Sphere special stages. Talk about nostalgia!
Bro that Kiro game goes hard
Next Level MLG
Wanna get drunk in 5 minutes? Take a shot anytime “blue sphere” is said
Very interesting :D
I have a question tho, i wanted to reproduce a sonic 3 cartridge because i messed up a repair on the original PCB then i try it alone it works fine, saves ect then on S&K, it doesn't load S3&K, only S&K. Is it because i used an EPROM 27C322 instead of a 27C160 like the original one ?
This reminds me of the "to answer that we need to talk about parallel universe" quote
Every time blue spheres is involved that in it's own is bigger then everything else in the collection combined, also since origins has 2 blue spheres modes (OG & new) as far as i know origins is with just the 2 bleu spheres modes let alone in general technicly the biggest game in general of all time (not in terms of how much MB but as in how much there is to do there / how many stages there are)
11:48
Me: Oh so Sonic Lost World called them blue orbs, oh well.
Also me: Wait SONIC CAN FLY?!
Thanks for educate me about "sphere".
As a kid I kept a notebook with all the levels codes I've defeated and I've got into the 1000s... I got obsessed
“Blu Balls”
*Every Smurf be like*
Atari was the first I know of being backwards compatible. I had an atari 7800 and could play 2600 games. Showing my age BTW 🤣. Enjoyed the video.
Not only does the Japanese manual call the spheres balls, but old prototype versions of Sonic 3 *also* say "Get the blue balls!"
Fun Fact: Blue Spheres are also present in the DS version of Sonic Colors. It's basically a more refined version of the special stages in Knuckles Chaotix. Unfortunately, it is also called Orbs in this version.
As a kid, i was obsessed with these special stages in the full game and wanted to play more. I played over 200 or 300 levels before i finally realized it was endless.
I've played 2,000 and I'm still going. I have an entire channel dedicated to the game.
@@SonicandHighwayDude401 Awesome.
Sonic jam certainly jammed something into my bran
Are you saying that the Sonic Team members did REALLY take the time to design and test more than 100 million of Blue Spheres stages during S3&K development??? That's crazy!! even for the period it was made!
An educated guess as to why it only looks at the last 2 MiB of the ROM:
It probably isn't so much something Sonic & Knuckles is doing as much as it's the result of how any ROM data is mapped in the Megadrive/Genesis hardware. A game that would be 4 MiB would have its first half mapped where Sonic & Knuckles is already. Since Sonic & Knuckles is the cart connected directly to the console, its own decoding hardware is only going to ensure that the first 2 megabytes is mapped to the main S&K ROM.
Basically, when the Megadrive/Genesis starts, whatever is at whatever address is whatever is at that address. Sonic & Knuckles' main ROM is connected to the first half of the section of the memory map reserved for the game ROM, and passes through the second half of the addresses to whatever ROM it's "hosting." S&K isn't "choosing" to only look at the second half, it's looking at the second half because that's literally the only half of the ROM space that's physically possible to read that isn't S&K when S&K is connected. As a result, a big game won't give a serial number or the highly secure TMSS signature, so it boots the S&K ROM without going down any of the alternate codepaths that lead to S3K, S2K, or Blue Sphere(s) being booted.
As to why S&K doesn't remap large games like it does with 2MB or less games, in the sense the start of the larger ROM isn't shifted down like other games are? Not sure. My guess is it might actually be doing just that, but there's only so much it can do about the other cart's own address decoder and how the "guest" ROM returns data. One would probably have to analyze the actual PCBs and not just the ROMs themselves.
"Wherever you are, Blue Sphere Guy, I salute you"
Sonic 1 was meant to be compatible with S&K and have Knuckles like Sonic 2, but was cut due to time constraints.
I remember this game, I think it was a bonus mini game in sonic and knuckles in the sonic mega collection for the ps2
I remember as a kid, trying to plug random games like street fighter and nba jam into the S&K cartridge. I remember getting that screen with the no way and the music. I never knew about pressing 3 buttons to play the game though
Do we have a download for Kiro: The Official Game of the Movie? I kinda want the rom for reasons. It is the best game eva after all.
also the reason why sonic 1 inst like sonic 2 with knuckles is because the color pallete with sonic and knuckles got kinda broken so they made that little game so that it just didnt get no way! without the blue spheres
That last fact you've shared us is probably why they had to change the name that we know now during the localization process...
You know what, I've watched your video and now I'd say I'm a bona-fide fan
Best special stage, period. People say Mania’s is the best but Sonic feels frustratingly slippery, and it’s just too much like CD’s special stages (which I despise) for me to enjoy.
honestly yeah, i hate mania special stages.
so hypothetically someone could make a custom genesis rom and as long as it fits the requirements for loading blue sphere, it could include it as an obscure/obtuse easter egg?
people still didn't know about this? granted i had all of the sonic games as a kid.. i found out about blue spheres in a Promotional sega VHS in collaboration with lunchables.. or something like that. it had easter eggs and cheat codes for a variety of sega games including Dr.R MBM. well done video btw you got my like and sub
Blue Sphere Guy is really happy.