I love the idea of old man Mario and nintendo chilling as they watch the XBox/Playstation/PC console war, and it coming as such a shock to young little inkling when they find out Mario and his good friend sonic had a much harsher war with far less rules long past. "Console wars are a young man's game. Lets-a-go karting."
No, because Mario and Sonic can't age. I think it grew out because Sega relied on Nintendo mainly for a game system in which they could put their Sonic games in. (After the Dreamcast) It would be awkward to still have a rivalry between the two characters when Sonic games are on the same game system as Mario
@@thefastcommenter7774 the thing is, The CEO of Sega Japan wanted to go third party since the Sega Saturn so the rivalry wasnt gonna last long anyways but did anyways till the end of the Dreamcast
@@thefastcommenter7774 While neither can age, time still obviously passes in both of their universes (with Mario Galaxy 2 referencing the events of Galaxy 1 and Sonic Generations having a literal Sonic birthday party), meaning both would acquire some level of maturity over time anyways.
As a Mario guy, I'm grateful that Sonic existed to motivate Nintendo to keep working hard on making great Mario games. Hopefully, Sonic Frontiers will start a bright era for the mainline Sonic games. EDIT: I never thought I'd get almost 3,000 likes and 76 replies from many people.
I hope so too! Sonic is one of my favourite video game characters of all time, and I’d love for the bad stuff to be mostly put aside so that his games can be consistently good
Seeing That Heard From A Mario Fan . It's Good. As A Sonic Fan Myself It Just Means The Collab Has Brought Mario Fans To Sonic And Sonic Fans To Mario. And As Much As You Hope Frontiers Does Well. Oh Boy IT WILL! Summer Game Fest 2022 Demo Players Have Called The Experience Phenomenal! One Of Them Even Felt *Game Of The Year Nomination Vibes* So There Is Your Good News There, Fellow Friend Mario Fan. Us Sonic Fans Also Appreciate Being On The Same Side. And Final. Yes, Frontiers Is Most Definetely Gonna Do Well And Yes It Will Open A Good Renaissance Era For Our Beloved Hedgehog. And I Hope The Mario Movie Does Well, As I've Recognized The Hate Nintendo Is Getting Because Of Their Strict Copyright Laws. And I Hope To See A Renaissance Era For Mario Too.
I love the fact that sonic and Mario teamed up after getting bombed when Sony appeared. And I also love the fact that sonic has consistently been staying afloat due to just how much of a hardcore cult fanbase those early games created. Sonic and Mario need each other to stay relevant and thanks to their rivalry they basically cemented themselves into gaming history forever so neither brand will ever completely die. There will always be sonic fans and Mario fans, these two literally can’t die 😂
I joined through the Adventure Games & felt the series downfall in the 4kids Era was hugely exaggerated. Of course the Sonic Downfall was a self fulfilling prophecy that came true the moment 2010 arrived & the series stopped trying to be good or even itself anymore. Also the video ignores just what happened on GameCube, with Nintendo fighting fiercely against both an unstoppable adversary & being able to equal the newcomer as the entire Western Game Industry went insane & was betraying them. At least now people realize just how much of an unsung masterpiece GameCube was 20 years ago.
@@WaterKirby1994 I think that really Nintendo wants quality on there games which is why they have so many good games. Sega was just unfortunate enough to make mistakes in decisions, such as releasing 06 too early
I don't think they need each other to stay relevant if Sonic didn't exist I'm sure Mario would be fine the series was already popular before the blue blur and if Sonic was never rivals with Mario I think the series would still be kicking like it is now due to the fanbase the character has from all those games that people like that keep the series afloat inspite of the inconsistent quality of modern games the series has.
My favorite era has to be friends era. It really does show some heart and standards Sonic and Mario has for each other, even after a decade of rivalry. I hope Sega and Nintendo continues to expand their friendship.
A sonic and mario crossover game would be absolutely revolutionary. As king as they did it right. It needs to have a good mix of development, not specifically Sega or nintendo, the quality of nintendo, the speed and music of Sega, if they mix that all together in a normal classic platformer game with at least a somewhat ok story, that would be the shit. If I ever got a wish it would be that.
@@Vinyboyful That would be the ultimate team up. Eggman & Bowser vs. Sonic & Mario. I'd love to play that. Hell, even the smaller rivals, like Chaos & Wario vs. the duo would still be really cool.
The relationship between an Italian plumber and the world's fastest hedgehog is very compelling. I can't wait to see Shigeru Miyamoto challenge Yuji Naka to an epic fight, just like in the same way as what Iwata and Reggie did and that would be a perfect picture.
Given the Iwata and Reggie one is for the introduction of Mii Fighters in Smash, imagine if for the next Mario & Sonic at the Olympics, we get a trailer of Miyamoto and Naka about to start a 100m in a dark void, and then the lights come on and they're a Mii and a Sonic Forces Avatar (maybe even a bunny one since Sonic started out as one in concept art). That'd be a cool trailer for a cool feature.
@@nsasupporter7557 Yeah. But Sonic has been iconic in his own right, even if he's not as "rad" as he used to be in the 90s. Same thing goes to Mario, but he has improved so far from 8 bit to HD.
Really enjoyed this. Its amazing how mario and sonic went from bitter rivals to friends. I grew up with both of these guys and I’m so happy to see them still rule the video game world. It brings a tear to my eye and a smile to my face.
These two characters have truly changed the gaming market. The rival he is the best on the planet, I am so happy to see these two characters eventually getting along. But one thing we need to revive them, to make them go to their former glory, it’s a crossover game. Not like the Olympic games, or the cameos, we need like,a true Mario and Sonic game. Like, for example, somehow egg man uses the chaos emeralds to transport sonic and tails to another dimension, that dimension being Mario’s dimension. And they have to find a way to gather all the chaos emeralds in the beat egg man, who teamed up with Bowser. That would be really cool. I guarantee you with that if they gave them a crossover game such as the one I just described, it could possibly be the highest grossing video game of all time. Anyway, thank you so much for this video. I genuinely got emotional, and I am so glad to see these two characters I love going back to their former glory. I am positive that, slowly but surely, these characters will dominate the gaming market once again, and when that happens, I can die happy man 😌
@@secondbestjojo1300 I do agree that sonic had a dark age, but when you think about it, 06 and the story book series were his only “bad games”. Sure, some games in the future are mediocre, but not bad by any means
Instead of the chaos emeralds i'd imagine they'd use the phantom ruby. Chaos emeralds nowhere to be seen int he story cause at this point theyre as collectable as standard rocks.
I guess some may call me a Mario guy, but I'm also a fan of Sonic. My first game was Sonic 1 on the Master System, but Mario was the franchise that made me a "gamer" and my favorite one up until this day. I guess I like both series for different, but similar reasons. Style and gameplay. I prefer Mario games in general, as I feel they're better designed and I like how they handle exploration a bit better. I do prefer Sonic's overall style, though (the music, set pieces and stuff). Had Sonic stopped at the classic era, it might come closer to Mario for me (as that's by far my favorite), but I don't know. I do love some Sonic games, but mostly the platformers only. Mario is literally the star of Super Mario and Mario Kart (my two favorite series). There's also Luigi's Mansion, the RPGs and 3D Mario is just top notch. I'm more in a Sonic mood since April, but I'm always going back and forth in what I'm playing. Love the two.
Yeah I think Mario games display more interesting game design and platforming/exploration, but Sonic games just ooze with style and attitude. Whichever I play depends on my mood
Back then, I was always a Mario guy. Then I played Sonic Rush for the first time, my first Sonic title, and my god the sense of speed in that game is insane, I later got Sonic Unleashed for my PS3, and it somehow surpassed that. SEGA is still going strong today not as a video game creator, but as a publisher. Since SEGA owns Atlus, they own the Persona and SMT franchises, which are super big in their own rights. And ofc, they own the Yakuza series, another big hit. Nintendo is still the giant they still are though, the Switch asserting its dominance with it being hard to find PS5's. Plus, the uniqueness of playing a console game on the go is revolutionary, even today. I will definitely, these two companies will stay relevant for a very long time
I wish they’d make a Sonic and Mario 3D plat-former crossover game. It could be set up like SA2 where each character goes through a similar stage but using their own move set and they’re trying to fight each other, but end up teaming up.
Or maybe even a 2D platformer with a pair-up mechanic, making the player able to use Sonic's speed or Mario's precise platforming and variety of abilities!
I love both Mario and Sonic. I never had a favorite between the two, just frustration that Sega decided not to give Sonic the best treatment possible. Heck, I like seeing them work together and I want more games like that.
Definitely the Olympic Games were my breaking point to be in love not only with the series but also those two as best friends. I've used to be a HUGE Mario fan more than Sonic even when I've played some Sonic games back in the day (Sonic 2, SA2, etc...) yet, when I've started to play more and more Sonic (Sonic Unleashed) I've started to fall for the Blue Blur himself and then started to day dream about Mario and Sonic being besties and equals in many ways, then the Olympics Games happened and then my love for both became an unhealthy obsession for seeing more Mario and Sonic sharing games. Nowadays, I'm the CEO of #TeamMarionic aka Mario and Sonic's duo name whenever they're together as a team, working together, being dorks and doing goofs together. I love their bromance a ton, and I definitely see them as best friends/bros no matter what Nintendo or Sega do. I even created a community where everyone shares their love for the plumber and the hedgehog being good friends with some cute rivalry for fun. I wish besides the TOGs (The Olympics Games) we could have either an RPG or a platformer with both. It would be amazing.
watching this video makes me want to see a proper mario sonic crossover game thats a platformer or some kind of proper adventure for both of them. hell you could even have part of the story being that mario and sonic dont get along at first but then they eventually team up become friends and stop the bad guys who they were unable to stop alone
You should read The Untold History of Japanese Game Developers. Seems "a certain rival of Nintendo" went to the process of getting the Yakuza kidnap a Jap dev's sibling to prevent them from working with Nintendo. It's not far fetched: a lot of Jap arcade game developers had to cooperate with the Yakuza as they run the gambling and arcade areas of Japan.
@@blasterofbooms I mean I feel nostalgic over my old Xbox 360 but I don't feel emotional and never will feel emotional over it. I guess some people are different
I've been a fan of both franchises to this day. While I have my issues with both of them for different reasons, they both have always shared the top spot as my favorite franchise. Seeing any nod to the rivalry just puts a smile on my face, whether officially (Olympic Games) or unofficially (SMBZ). Also that Olympic trailer still gives me goosebumps to this day. This applies to Pokemon and Digimon as well . . .
I can barely remember how my mind was BLOWN when I heard Mario and Sonic had games together (when I was a toddler) and I'm grateful that their early rivalry became a long lasting relationship over the years. This was such a well made video!!! Thank you.
im a giant fan of both series and seeing both characters grow and change with each other and having sonic basically stop a huge monopoly from forming is something we genuinely do not appreciate enough
I’m both a Mario and Sonic fan so it just makes me happy the mascots are friends and stuff. Like the companies will always compete or whatever, but if these two were real, they wouldn’t do the same.
So true, if they were actually acting in-character they would most definitely get along, their whole "we're the mascot of these huge gaming companies" aside.
When it comes to newer games, I play Mario. When it comes to a nostalgia trip when I want to hit the classics, I play Sonic. Both have a special place in my heart and I will cherish them forever.
The battle between Nintendo and Sega in the 1990s is a tale as old as time itself... if time began in the 1990s, anyway. Excellent work on this. I just love the snappy editing, and this video does a great job at showing how Mario and Sonic's relationship has evolved since they first met!
Seeing Mario and Sonic come together in a video game was the equivalent of seeing Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny together in Who Framed Roger Rabbit?! Although, speaking of Mickey, it’s surprising Mario hasn’t gotten a chance to cross over with him and his universe. Seeing the relationship between Disney and Nintendo throughout the decades would be fascinating, from the licensed Disney Hanafuda cards to Sora from Kingdom Hearts being included in Smash Bros.
Imagine is Sonic and Mario had their own movie together. I know the Sonic The Hedgehog movies are from Paramount and the upcoming Mario movie is from Universal Pictures, I would really love to see these two characters team up in a feature-length film.
Yeah, I missed the times in the '90s in the Console Wars when Mario, Sonic, and especially their SNES/Genesis consoles competed so intensely to create the greatest gaming generation and lasted throughout the decade. It calmed down in the Gamecube era, but AS SOON Mario and Sonic and Olympic Games came out on the Wii, I was SHOCKED. That was something I never thought would happen. It's crazy Mario and Sonic are friends now. I guess Nintendo and Sega grew tired of them going at each other so hard.
I grew up loving both Mario and Sonic so It was never difficult for me to pick sides, both have great games and some flops. But, at the end of the day they stood the testimate of time and are super recognizable.
Fun Fact: for some reason in super smash bros brawl story game they had a nintendo rival (aka sonic) save the whole smash universe from tabuu it was pretty cool
I do like both the Sonic & Mario Series(s)/Franchises including others too, but either way all of them all good too, so it just goes to show that these days we don't need to complete (if/if not necessary) anymore just because that having fun is the main importance/speedruns, just to keep it all together, you just got to get along with it and have fun, anyways I Am Outta Here!!!
I dont really think Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games is Sega’s desperate act, but Nintendo’s pity that their all time rival is about to reach to its end after Sonic 06 happened, to the point where fans have absolute NO faith on Sega since that chaotic moment. Nintendo gave Sega another chance to get back in the spotlight, and I think at that point is where Sega has truly respect Nintendo and sees them as friendly rivals without having to punch it in the gut. Nintendo was pretty much merciful. And to add more positivity, Nintendo was gonna introduce Sonic as the first non Nintendo character in Super Smash Bros Melee, but thats been scrapped off and instead have him in Brawl. Nintendo has always respected Sega even back then, just tend to give jabs after taken some from Sega. Like brothers who would fight but in the end are in good terms as they show to care for each other. Thats how Nintendo and Sega are.
Honestly I enjoyed sonic 06 as a younger kid, it was fun while also having multiple characters fun bosses and cool puzzles it holds a place in my heart that hasn’t been replaced to this day. It was my first sonic game and one of my first experiences in video games.
It's funny how you describe Sonic being the hip new trend during the 90s because back when I was in 5th grade, I got made fun of for having a Sonic The Hedgehog wallpaper by the same kids who would bring their 3DS's to play Mario together. How much the times have changed.
I wish that in the PlayStation Invasion era, Nintendo and Sega would team up to make a Mario and Sonic Crossover (not The Olympics) so good, Sony wouldn’t bother to try and beat the two.
I love this analysis! And I love Sonic games! I respect Mario for all his story (in gaming I mean), and being able to watch them be friends like this really makes me drop a smile. Good job on the video man
I love mario and sonic. Played a few sonic games but more mario games. Sure critics hate most of what sega makes nowadays but I still love their games. No matter what people say. Forces was good and i liked it. Unleashed was my favorite out of them all though. And mario. Ive just always loved mario. Played with mario ever since the DS came out and i got New Super Mario Bros for it on my birthday. Yeah i played mario more but i still got a soft spot for sonic. Cant wait for frontiers!
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I still say after all these years, you would think they made a crossover SERIES with Mario & Sonic. Rather than throwing them into a sports. Smash was AMAZING to see him as a sub space cameo, but man. Just to see sonic at mushroom kingdom taking on bowser. Or Mario taking on Eggman at Green Hill.
hi kiro, sweet vidoe dude. i really like your content and you're video essays/recaps from the past of gaming are really entertaining. keep up the goood work dude
So he said that crash bandicoot was PlayStations mascot, but the first thing that came to my mind was “isn’t Astro bot PlayStations mascot?” Seriously. I’d love to see Mario vs Sonic vs Astro Bot
Now with Mario Wonder and Sonic Superstars coming out, in the same week no less, it’s cool to see how both franchises are doing something new and unique for their 2D games and I’m equally hyped for both. Can’t wait for the more friendly competition to begin!
I like how with almost every Sonic related game review, they mention the “small blunder” that is Sonic 06. For some reason it always cracks me up because it’s seen as an awkward speed bump to a lot who come across it
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I like to think of Mario and Sonic as war veterans who learned to forgive each other and become homies.
learn how to draw and make this a web comic. I'd love to see where that goes.
Why don’t they make any games of them together other than Olympic Games?
@@jorgem.9690 ikr?
I love the idea of old man Mario and nintendo chilling as they watch the XBox/Playstation/PC console war, and it coming as such a shock to young little inkling when they find out Mario and his good friend sonic had a much harsher war with far less rules long past. "Console wars are a young man's game. Lets-a-go karting."
Homies help homies
I like to think Mario and Sonic's relationship canonically grew out of their petty rivalry. They grew older and more mature as the years went by.
No, because Mario and Sonic can't age. I think it grew out because Sega relied on Nintendo mainly for a game system in which they could put their Sonic games in. (After the Dreamcast) It would be awkward to still have a rivalry between the two characters when Sonic games are on the same game system as Mario
@@thefastcommenter7774 the thing is, The CEO of Sega Japan wanted to go third party since the Sega Saturn so the rivalry wasnt gonna last long anyways but did anyways till the end of the Dreamcast
This is a sweet way to think about their relationship.
@@thefastcommenter7774 While neither can age, time still obviously passes in both of their universes (with Mario Galaxy 2 referencing the events of Galaxy 1 and Sonic Generations having a literal Sonic birthday party), meaning both would acquire some level of maturity over time anyways.
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As a Mario guy, I'm grateful that Sonic existed to motivate Nintendo to keep working hard on making great Mario games. Hopefully, Sonic Frontiers will start a bright era for the mainline Sonic games.
EDIT: I never thought I'd get almost 3,000 likes and 76 replies from many people.
I hope so too! Sonic is one of my favourite video game characters of all time, and I’d love for the bad stuff to be mostly put aside so that his games can be consistently good
I as an Sonic fan for 12yrs i am also happy Nintendo exists!
I have a feeling that the reply section will turn into a Twitter argument. Starting with one guy trash talking this comment in this reply section.
Yeah I'm glad Both are doing good
Seeing That Heard From A Mario Fan .
It's Good.
As A Sonic Fan Myself
It Just Means The Collab Has Brought Mario Fans To Sonic And Sonic Fans To Mario.
And As Much As You Hope Frontiers Does Well.
Oh Boy IT WILL!
Summer Game Fest 2022 Demo Players Have Called The Experience Phenomenal!
One Of Them Even Felt *Game Of The Year Nomination Vibes*
So There Is Your Good News There, Fellow Friend Mario Fan.
Us Sonic Fans Also Appreciate Being On The Same Side.
And Final.
Yes, Frontiers Is Most Definetely Gonna Do Well And Yes It Will Open A Good Renaissance Era For Our Beloved Hedgehog.
And I Hope The Mario Movie Does Well, As I've Recognized The Hate Nintendo Is Getting Because Of Their Strict Copyright Laws.
And I Hope To See A Renaissance Era For Mario Too.
It’s kinda weird how nowadays sonic and Mario seem to be friends, even tho a big part of
SEGA’s marketing was “SEGA do what Ninten-Dont”
Time doesn't like to settle in one place.
Sonic’s grown and changed to accept Mario as friendly competition and not a rival
wierd not wired
@@supergalaticmaster Thanks/ Nevermind
@@supergalaticmaster weird*
I love the fact that sonic and Mario teamed up after getting bombed when Sony appeared. And I also love the fact that sonic has consistently been staying afloat due to just how much of a hardcore cult fanbase those early games created. Sonic and Mario need each other to stay relevant and thanks to their rivalry they basically cemented themselves into gaming history forever so neither brand will ever completely die. There will always be sonic fans and Mario fans, these two literally can’t die 😂
I joined through the Adventure Games & felt the series downfall in the 4kids Era was hugely exaggerated. Of course the Sonic Downfall was a self fulfilling prophecy that came true the moment 2010 arrived & the series stopped trying to be good or even itself anymore. Also the video ignores just what happened on GameCube, with Nintendo fighting fiercely against both an unstoppable adversary & being able to equal the newcomer as the entire Western Game Industry went insane & was betraying them. At least now people realize just how much of an unsung masterpiece GameCube was 20 years ago.
@@WaterKirby1994 I think that really Nintendo wants quality on there games which is why they have so many good games. Sega was just unfortunate enough to make mistakes in decisions, such as releasing 06 too early
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I don't think they need each other to stay relevant if Sonic didn't exist I'm sure Mario would be fine the series was already popular before the blue blur and if Sonic was never rivals with Mario I think the series would still be kicking like it is now due to the fanbase the character has from all those games that people like that keep the series afloat inspite of the inconsistent quality of modern games the series has.
Nintendo revealed that the Reason Mario Always Comes Back To Life After He Dies Is Because Both Heaven And Hell Reject His Soul
My favorite era has to be friends era. It really does show some heart and standards Sonic and Mario has for each other, even after a decade of rivalry. I hope Sega and Nintendo continues to expand their friendship.
He'll Nah, I hope they start fighting.
@@quentonfrancis2616 why?
@@quentonfrancis2616 You're part of the problem and I hate that. Please stop.
“hey, let’s stop fighting and be friends” “ok”
@Amidamaru Dude, you don’t need to take that to offense literally. I think we are all aware they’re just video game mascots.😂
"Mario was the nice church girl you take home with your parents and Sonic is the chick waiting for the hot girl su-"
A sonic and mario crossover game would be absolutely revolutionary. As king as they did it right. It needs to have a good mix of development, not specifically Sega or nintendo, the quality of nintendo, the speed and music of Sega, if they mix that all together in a normal classic platformer game with at least a somewhat ok story, that would be the shit. If I ever got a wish it would be that.
there can be many types of crossovers, such as, fighting, story, etc
There really needs to, but after all these years they had mostly done Olympic Games which I doubt that there will ever be an actual crossover.
I would be cool, Just imagine a game where Sonic and Mario have to save the world from destruction of Dr Robotnik and Bowser.
@@Vinyboyful That would be the ultimate team up. Eggman & Bowser vs. Sonic & Mario. I'd love to play that. Hell, even the smaller rivals, like Chaos & Wario vs. the duo would still be really cool.
They would need to speed up mario cuz slow sonic has never worked and we all know it.
The relationship between an Italian plumber and the world's fastest hedgehog is very compelling. I can't wait to see Shigeru Miyamoto challenge Yuji Naka to an epic fight, just like in the same way as what Iwata and Reggie did and that would be a perfect picture.
Given the Iwata and Reggie one is for the introduction of Mii Fighters in Smash, imagine if for the next Mario & Sonic at the Olympics, we get a trailer of Miyamoto and Naka about to start a 100m in a dark void, and then the lights come on and they're a Mii and a Sonic Forces Avatar (maybe even a bunny one since Sonic started out as one in concept art).
That'd be a cool trailer for a cool feature.
Sonic isn’t half the icon that Mario is though… or maybe he is half but not more than half
@@nsasupporter7557 Sonic is still an icon the same way as Mario in equal terms. It's just that the Console Wars is already over many years ago.
@@poweroffriendship2.0 uh… no he’s not. Mario is a way bigger icon than Sonic. Always has been
@@nsasupporter7557 Yeah. But Sonic has been iconic in his own right, even if he's not as "rad" as he used to be in the 90s. Same thing goes to Mario, but he has improved so far from 8 bit to HD.
Kiro Talks: “Even your greatest enemies can become your greatest friends!”
Goku: “You got that right!”
Naruto: "Believe it!" (Naruto using talk no Jutsu after winning/losing to the enemies)
Black Frieza: Oh you little simians always make me laugh.
Really enjoyed this. Its amazing how mario and sonic went from bitter rivals to friends. I grew up with both of these guys and I’m so happy to see them still rule the video game world. It brings a tear to my eye and a smile to my face.
Where does it show that there friends?
@@jorgem.9690 16:22
As a sonic guy I appreciate mario being along for the ride and nowadays being good friends
As a big sonic fan i approve your comment
As a Mario and Sonic fan these two will always have created thousands of childhood memories and helped people through so many bad times
Fuck thousands. It's millions
These two characters have truly changed the gaming market. The rival he is the best on the planet, I am so happy to see these two characters eventually getting along. But one thing we need to revive them, to make them go to their former glory, it’s a crossover game. Not like the Olympic games, or the cameos, we need like,a true Mario and Sonic game. Like, for example, somehow egg man uses the chaos emeralds to transport sonic and tails to another dimension, that dimension being Mario’s dimension. And they have to find a way to gather all the chaos emeralds in the beat egg man, who teamed up with Bowser. That would be really cool. I guarantee you with that if they gave them a
crossover game such as the one I just described, it could possibly be the highest grossing video game of all time. Anyway, thank you so much for this video. I genuinely got emotional, and I am so glad to see these two characters I love going back to their former glory. I am positive that, slowly but surely, these characters will dominate the gaming market once again, and when that happens, I can die happy man 😌
I don't think their Was a mario dark age every mainline game has been amazing
@@secondbestjojo1300 I do agree that sonic had a dark age, but when you think about it, 06 and the story book series were his only “bad games”. Sure, some games in the future are mediocre, but not bad by any means
Instead of the chaos emeralds i'd imagine they'd use the phantom ruby. Chaos emeralds nowhere to be seen int he story cause at this point theyre as collectable as standard rocks.
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I guess some may call me a Mario guy, but I'm also a fan of Sonic. My first game was Sonic 1 on the Master System, but Mario was the franchise that made me a "gamer" and my favorite one up until this day.
I guess I like both series for different, but similar reasons. Style and gameplay.
I prefer Mario games in general, as I feel they're better designed and I like how they handle exploration a bit better. I do prefer Sonic's overall style, though (the music, set pieces and stuff).
Had Sonic stopped at the classic era, it might come closer to Mario for me (as that's by far my favorite), but I don't know. I do love some Sonic games, but mostly the platformers only. Mario is literally the star of Super Mario and Mario Kart (my two favorite series). There's also Luigi's Mansion, the RPGs and 3D Mario is just top notch.
I'm more in a Sonic mood since April, but I'm always going back and forth in what I'm playing. Love the two.
Mine was Sonic generation I think
Yeah I think Mario games display more interesting game design and platforming/exploration, but Sonic games just ooze with style and attitude. Whichever I play depends on my mood
So basically you are a Mario fan
@@thefastcommenter7774 I think I'm a fan of good videogames in general
Well I used to be a fan of sonic but now not so much and I’m mostly a Mario fan since like 13 years ago.
"Suddenly a new Challenger appeared" missed opportunity to use the new Challenger sound from super smash Bros
I was going to but it slipped my mind lol maybe I'll find a way to use it later
I haven't played the most recent Sonic and Mario Olympic Games but those first games were actually pretty good.
Mario & Sonic 2014 Sochi Winter Olympics is my favorite
THE HIGH GROUND
Why hello there.
Ugh i wabt to play the first 2 games TwT
Back then, I was always a Mario guy. Then I played Sonic Rush for the first time, my first Sonic title, and my god the sense of speed in that game is insane, I later got Sonic Unleashed for my PS3, and it somehow surpassed that. SEGA is still going strong today not as a video game creator, but as a publisher. Since SEGA owns Atlus, they own the Persona and SMT franchises, which are super big in their own rights. And ofc, they own the Yakuza series, another big hit. Nintendo is still the giant they still are though, the Switch asserting its dominance with it being hard to find PS5's. Plus, the uniqueness of playing a console game on the go is revolutionary, even today. I will definitely, these two companies will stay relevant for a very long time
I wish they’d make a Sonic and Mario 3D plat-former crossover game. It could be set up like SA2 where each character goes through a similar stage but using their own move set and they’re trying to fight each other, but end up teaming up.
I wish.
😊❤💙
Or like Sonic Generations where you have Sonic sections and Mario sections
Or maybe even a 2D platformer with a pair-up mechanic, making the player able to use Sonic's speed or Mario's precise platforming and variety of abilities!
@@mrgreenboy644 or make it like Mario Odyssey where they are 2D and 3D sections.
That’s dumb
They both really went through the Zuko and Aang development.
Seeing them together on good terms is so wholesome it almost brings a tear to the eye.
Bro why am I watching this at 2 am I have school in the morning 😭😭😭
Same 😅
I love both Mario and Sonic. I never had a favorite between the two, just frustration that Sega decided not to give Sonic the best treatment possible. Heck, I like seeing them work together and I want more games like that.
Definitely the Olympic Games were my breaking point to be in love not only with the series but also those two as best friends. I've used to be a HUGE Mario fan more than Sonic even when I've played some Sonic games back in the day (Sonic 2, SA2, etc...) yet, when I've started to play more and more Sonic (Sonic Unleashed) I've started to fall for the Blue Blur himself and then started to day dream about Mario and Sonic being besties and equals in many ways, then the Olympics Games happened and then my love for both became an unhealthy obsession for seeing more Mario and Sonic sharing games.
Nowadays, I'm the CEO of #TeamMarionic aka Mario and Sonic's duo name whenever they're together as a team, working together, being dorks and doing goofs together. I love their bromance a ton, and I definitely see them as best friends/bros no matter what Nintendo or Sega do. I even created a community where everyone shares their love for the plumber and the hedgehog being good friends with some cute rivalry for fun.
I wish besides the TOGs (The Olympics Games) we could have either an RPG or a platformer with both. It would be amazing.
I Also Made A Hashtag Called #NotRivalsAnymore
Wtf are you talking about? They don’t even know each other this is stupid!
watching this video makes me want to see a proper mario sonic crossover game thats a platformer or some kind of proper adventure for both of them. hell you could even have part of the story being that mario and sonic dont get along at first but then they eventually team up become friends and stop the bad guys who they were unable to stop alone
I am so glad Mario and Sonic are friends now.❤💙
Old days: Sonic trying to destroy mario and his house (Nintendo Console)
Now days: Sonic live inside mario house and become a roomate
You should read The Untold History of Japanese Game Developers. Seems "a certain rival of Nintendo" went to the process of getting the Yakuza kidnap a Jap dev's sibling to prevent them from working with Nintendo.
It's not far fetched: a lot of Jap arcade game developers had to cooperate with the Yakuza as they run the gambling and arcade areas of Japan.
underrated channel, i'll love to see this channel grow!
Same
absolutely!
16:07 aged like fine milk
"In 2006 we got the Nintendo Wii" haven't heard that name in ages almost makes a grown man cry and that's okay
Its ok for a grown man to cry, but seriously that makes you tear up?
@@thefastcommenter7774 The nostalgia of an old console can make you get emotional
@@blasterofbooms I mean I feel nostalgic over my old Xbox 360 but I don't feel emotional and never will feel emotional over it. I guess some people are different
@Amidamaru You don't like the switch, the Wii, the 3ds???? These are all great consoles in my opinion
@Amidamaru wii was better + backwards compatible
I've been a fan of both franchises to this day. While I have my issues with both of them for different reasons, they both have always shared the top spot as my favorite franchise. Seeing any nod to the rivalry just puts a smile on my face, whether officially (Olympic Games) or unofficially (SMBZ).
Also that Olympic trailer still gives me goosebumps to this day.
This applies to Pokemon and Digimon as well . . .
Another SMBZ fan I see.
Mario & Sonic have been good friends since Mario & Sonic at the Olympic Winter Games Vancouver 2010. They’re better as friends and not rivals.
I Agree
It’s just like Thomas & Friends on how steamies and diesels get along and better as allies.
11:14 can you imagine what mario games would be like if nintendo kept that design?
Sonic and Mario will always be two iconic characters. They lived then, they live now, and they will live forever for new games to come ✊🏾
I guess you cab say that they................ lived and learned.
Sonic Frontiers had brought Sonic back to his peak.
Well the voice actors of both Mario and Sonic are friends in real life so…
Yeah exactly
Which Sonic VA?
Ryan Drummond
sonic and mario are my favorite dads in gaming
Lol
Two dads
Funnily enough I do have a father named Mario.
Lmao
@@Lalo-uu4dg Is your uncle named Luigi
I like to think that Mario and sonic canonically don’t hate each other they were just forced to
Honestly, I like sonic and mario equally :D
Both series have something to love about them
Me too
11:01 interestingly Sonic got younger as he was 16 until Sonic Adventure
This video got me right in the feels. I really do enjoy seeing how Sonic and Mario get along now.
15:36 no the Internet got what eggman did to the moon
I can barely remember how my mind was BLOWN when I heard Mario and Sonic had games together (when I was a toddler) and I'm grateful that their early rivalry became a long lasting relationship over the years. This was such a well made video!!! Thank you.
5:36 Playstation Invasion.
I never thought of it that why but now it makes sense.
Sonic: I'm Mario's ultimate rival!
Luigi: Hold my even more toxic fanbase.
im a giant fan of both series and seeing both characters grow and change with each other and having sonic basically stop a huge monopoly from forming is something we genuinely do not appreciate enough
I’m both a Mario and Sonic fan so it just makes me happy the mascots are friends and stuff. Like the companies will always compete or whatever, but if these two were real, they wouldn’t do the same.
So true, if they were actually acting in-character they would most definitely get along, their whole "we're the mascot of these huge gaming companies" aside.
You just started your channel and you’re *ALREADY* making killer content
Keep up the good work.
I'm glad that Sonic and Mario now get along better, as they are my two favorite video game characters (other than DK)
When it comes to newer games, I play Mario. When it comes to a nostalgia trip when I want to hit the classics, I play Sonic. Both have a special place in my heart and I will cherish them forever.
The battle between Nintendo and Sega in the 1990s is a tale as old as time itself... if time began in the 1990s, anyway.
Excellent work on this. I just love the snappy editing, and this video does a great job at showing how Mario and Sonic's relationship has evolved since they first met!
10:16 This one scares me 💀
"Mario vs sonic is without doubt the greatest rivalry in the world"
Messi and Ronaldo: Am I a joke to you?
Seeing Mario and Sonic come together in a video game was the equivalent of seeing Mickey Mouse and Bugs Bunny together in Who Framed Roger Rabbit?!
Although, speaking of Mickey, it’s surprising Mario hasn’t gotten a chance to cross over with him and his universe. Seeing the relationship between Disney and Nintendo throughout the decades would be fascinating, from the licensed Disney Hanafuda cards to Sora from Kingdom Hearts being included in Smash Bros.
Fighting a bloodthirsty Mecha Sonic on that island must've been hard for them ☠️
Mario and Sonic are great friends.
4:44 "On Groundhog Day" *Sonic drops a banger game* "Make That Hedgehog Day"
Groundhog Day is useless
Imagine is Sonic and Mario had their own movie together. I know the Sonic The Hedgehog movies are from Paramount and the upcoming Mario movie is from Universal Pictures, I would really love to see these two characters team up in a feature-length film.
11:25 as someone who regularly messes with Kirby models, yeahhhh this checks out. Trust me, not having legs is hard as heck to animate.
Yeah, I missed the times in the '90s in the Console Wars when Mario, Sonic, and especially their SNES/Genesis consoles competed so intensely to create the greatest gaming generation and lasted throughout the decade.
It calmed down in the Gamecube era, but AS SOON Mario and Sonic and Olympic Games came out on the Wii, I was SHOCKED. That was something I never thought would happen. It's crazy Mario and Sonic are friends now. I guess Nintendo and Sega grew tired of them going at each other so hard.
I grew up loving both Mario and Sonic so It was never difficult for me to pick sides, both have great games and some flops. But, at the end of the day they stood the testimate of time and are super recognizable.
Fun Fact: for some reason in super smash bros brawl story game they had a nintendo rival (aka sonic) save the whole smash universe from tabuu it was pretty cool
@Amidamaru Proof ?
@Amidamaru how?
It was cool.
I was angry because he was only playable towards the end of the game.
@@KyleEvra ikr so many cutscenes
for those who dont know, the scenes with the tv and room with the posters and consoles and games and all come from a game called "emuvr"
15:09 - 15:38 somehow this become my favorite moment in this video
Best character development arc ever
I totally agree with this just like how master Wu said on ninjago “The best way to defeat your enemy is to make him your friend”
I do like both the Sonic & Mario Series(s)/Franchises including others too, but either way all of them all good too, so it just goes to show that these days we don't need to complete (if/if not necessary) anymore just because that having fun is the main importance/speedruns, just to keep it all together, you just got to get along with it and have fun, anyways I Am Outta Here!!!
Its painful to see that you dont have 1 millions subs, you are so underrated. You deserve so much more than this
this channel had grown real fast I'm impressed! and the content you make is very enjoyable to watch
Your videos are REALLY good, Keep it up :) 👍
Sonic and Mario was also in Disney films like Wreck it Ralph 1 & 2 and Sonic was in the Chip & Dale Rescue Rangers Movie.
I think they asked to put Mario in it too but Nintendo was too strict with their copyright
This is the best character development in history
this was a fantastically well written and edited video, im very shocked you arent more popular, you deserve it
I dont really think Mario and Sonic at the Olympic Games is Sega’s desperate act, but Nintendo’s pity that their all time rival is about to reach to its end after Sonic 06 happened, to the point where fans have absolute NO faith on Sega since that chaotic moment.
Nintendo gave Sega another chance to get back in the spotlight, and I think at that point is where Sega has truly respect Nintendo and sees them as friendly rivals without having to punch it in the gut.
Nintendo was pretty much merciful.
And to add more positivity, Nintendo was gonna introduce Sonic as the first non Nintendo character in Super Smash Bros Melee, but thats been scrapped off and instead have him in Brawl.
Nintendo has always respected Sega even back then, just tend to give jabs after taken some from Sega.
Like brothers who would fight but in the end are in good terms as they show to care for each other.
Thats how Nintendo and Sega are.
Let's hope they can do that again...
Mario: Sonic is my best friend. *Holding Machete behind his back.*
Sonic: I'm glad me and Mario became friends. *Holding pistol behind his back.*
Shadow:laughs in chaos control
Honestly I enjoyed sonic 06 as a younger kid, it was fun while also having multiple characters fun bosses and cool puzzles it holds a place in my heart that hasn’t been replaced to this day. It was my first sonic game and one of my first experiences in video games.
Hey mon, this is awesome. I’m really thankful I discovered this channel, let’s hope to see you grow even further!
Loving your videos essays so far! You have a great narration voice and are obviously so passionate. Can't wait to see what you'll do next!
For a new channel, this is very high quality stuff
Despite the rivalry. Mario and Sonic both were part of my youth. It's really hard to choose between the two. It's glad to see them as buddies
Imagine if they make a movie about Mario and Sonic rivalries, and becomes ally later fighting the new era of gaming
I would love that to happen
I think this would be awesome, & a videogame tie-in would make it super cool.
It's funny how you describe Sonic being the hip new trend during the 90s because back when I was in 5th grade, I got made fun of for having a Sonic The Hedgehog wallpaper by the same kids who would bring their 3DS's to play Mario together. How much the times have changed.
This was such an enjoyable watch! Thanks so much for taking the time for the research and putting it together!
Mario and Sonic’s rivalry is the video game equivalent to Woody and Buzz’s rivalry.
And also equivalent to Thomas and Diesel’s rivalry of Thomas & Friends.
I wish that in the PlayStation Invasion era, Nintendo and Sega would team up to make a Mario and Sonic Crossover (not The Olympics) so good,
Sony wouldn’t bother to try and beat the two.
Yeah they should have done it and not another Olympic sport friendly crossover game
That would’ve been hilarious and biggest backfire to Sony in gaming history.
I love the friendly rivalry relationship Sonic and Mario fans have, its so precious💙❤️
I love this analysis! And I love Sonic games! I respect Mario for all his story (in gaming I mean), and being able to watch them be friends like this really makes me drop a smile.
Good job on the video man
The video was amazing to learn history of Mario and Sonic’s relationship 👍
I love mario and sonic. Played a few sonic games but more mario games. Sure critics hate most of what sega makes nowadays but I still love their games. No matter what people say. Forces was good and i liked it. Unleashed was my favorite out of them all though. And mario. Ive just always loved mario. Played with mario ever since the DS came out and i got New Super Mario Bros for it on my birthday. Yeah i played mario more but i still got a soft spot for sonic. Cant wait for frontiers!
Your channel is definitely underrated!
You deserve so much more subscribers with this high tier & entertaining content!
Keep up the good work, love from Sweden!
Love the videos! This is the kind of quality I want. Definitely subscribed. Can’t wait for more sonic videos.
14:54 oh god this got me laughing 😂
I still say after all these years, you would think they made a crossover SERIES with Mario & Sonic. Rather than throwing them into a sports. Smash was AMAZING to see him as a sub space cameo, but man. Just to see sonic at mushroom kingdom taking on bowser. Or Mario taking on Eggman at Green Hill.
hi kiro, sweet vidoe dude. i really like your content and you're video essays/recaps from the past of gaming are really entertaining. keep up the goood work dude
Starting listening to this at work. Clicked on the channel only to find out its very new! This is high quality stuff man, keep it up!
So he said that crash bandicoot was PlayStations mascot, but the first thing that came to my mind was “isn’t Astro bot PlayStations mascot?” Seriously. I’d love to see Mario vs Sonic vs Astro Bot
Damn dude..
That ending went deep.
Now with Mario Wonder and Sonic Superstars coming out, in the same week no less, it’s cool to see how both franchises are doing something new and unique for their 2D games and I’m equally hyped for both. Can’t wait for the more friendly competition to begin!
Nice video. It was very entertaining, and I like that at the end, you said that it was never too late to make amends. That is very true.
I like how with almost every Sonic related game review, they mention the “small blunder” that is Sonic 06. For some reason it always cracks me up because it’s seen as an awkward speed bump to a lot who come across it