Thanks for checking it out Jimbo! Yeah I was happy with how it turned out, got lucky with the weather and a really long sunny day. Amazingly shot this using only the tiny monitor on the Komodo which I'm getting more used to relying on for shooting low profile TH-cam stuff.
Imperfection is perfection! Loved your b-rolls and the way you graded the whole thing. Very interesting lenses, Ed. Thanks so much for this great review! Cheers from Italy
god I love the footage so much! im glad you noticed the warmer 24mm, a couple of us had, and have supplied our feedback to Sirui. I thought I was going crazy hahaha. Great review dude!
Yeah, can't really complain at this price point - but they're definitely not super consistent across the set, still very impressive little lenses though!
Thanks for the video dude. Good, grass roots, real person style presentation. It’s refreshing to finally hear somebody say it’s ok for a lens to not be perfect. For me, it’s often the idiosyncrasies that create the character.
Exactly. I think because many probably came up through using DSLRs where lenses were traditionally marketed on their sharpness and cleaness - there is this prevailing myth that that is the pinnacle of lens design. But we're seeing a move away from that now because everyone wants "cinematic" so that's become the new marketing push
I primarily shoot with the bmpcc 6k g2, 4k and the OG, and the idea of having a really interesting 24mm prime at T1.2 is interesting, but my problem is, for the OG and 4k I use the Lumix 12-35mm (MFT) and I have to say it's very difficult to find a lens that is more versatile than that one. Add a black mist filter and a CPL/ND filter and there is just very little that I can't feel confident about shooting. Not to mention in that setup on the 4k and OG the heaviest thing literally is the NPF battery. But that 24mm is still super interesting. Nice review by the way, your footage, as usual is top notch!
I remember that lens! Think it was probably one of the first lenses I ever bought myself for my ol' GH4 - it was great! I think the benefit of cine style lenses is their manual focus rings are much better to work with than the smaller / electronic focus rings on stills lenses. I also prefer to control my aperture manually.
Great review. I am envious of your camera skills. I just picked up the 24mm in gun metal grey for £238! So, I am looking forward to having as much fun as you are. Not sure my results will look as good though 😊
Good stuff they're nice lenses and once you stop down a bit they clean up really well. Used them in a professional gig a few weeks back and they cut in with the DZOFilm Vespids well
@@EdProsser Maybe, I'm not sure a different housing would be enough. How would you achieve focus with these same elements when they’re further from the sensor?
@@EdProsser well, I am a lens manufacturer. To allow these types of modifications you need to move between similar flange distances. Like from a reflex mount into a pl mount. I'm only kidding of course, I'm not really a lens manufacturer. I agree, I too would like a lens set at this price point in a pl mount to future proof the purchase.
Thanks Ed. I've just ordered a set, and look forward to trying them. Since your video was made Siri have released a16mm and 75mm as you no doubt know. A very balanced review and great video. I love the look, and it is perfectly suited to your subject matter, The Clinical look has its place of course., but people are softer and these lenses help one see the people rather than the pores in their skin, which is unnatural and disturbing, I find.
@@EdProsser I look forward to seeing that ! It will be interesting to see how the Sirius lenses work with the DJI focus pro that I’m waiting on delivery . It should nail focus regardless of aperture and using a lens at T1.2 with LiDAR opens up a lot of creative possibilities, I imagine?
I'm so intrigued by these lenses, just like you to use them on my Komodo. I already have a set of Meike FF primes so I really don't need them, but since when did that stop me anyway?! :) Thanks for a great review!
Yeah I think you're gonna be hard press to get anything better at this price point, and even then these are really hitting above their price point. Similar to you, I have a set of Vespids, but I can see these being more convenient a lot of the time due to their small form factor and no need for adapters.
@@EdProsser I agree, that is exactly my thoughts too. Making the camera smaller and lighter could be a huge benefit sometimes. I hate it everytime I decide to use my Canon RF glass on the komodo (always for packing reasons), because it's too clean, even with mist filters on it gives that digital look. This miiight be the solution. But I also know it's that buying new gear sub personality making justifications now haha.
@@EdProsser I might just pick up the 24mm and have it in my "small and fun lenses"-collection together with the Helios 44-2 and some other random stuff. And then maybe it might advance itself out of that box and gets some friends :)
How do you mean? I don't think they make the Komodo look bad - and the fact that they're so small and cheap will likely lend themselves to a lot of environments where you might be using the Komodo as a crash cam (not me!) - or where you want a small footprint. Like I also mention - some people might have burnt up all their budget on their camera system and need some affordable lenses to get them going - I don't think you can go wrong with these!
Unfortunately that wouldn't work - these are Super 35 / APS-C lenses and the flange distance would match, if you used an adapter it would extend the lens too far forward. You'd have to remove the existing mount and re-fit with l-mount. Event after that you wouldn't be able to shoot in full frame on the camera.
Shooting at night would mean lighting, probably gross street lighting or bringing my own. Filming at blue hour where you have a small amount of natural light felt like a good test for them.
No you can't adapt mirrorless lenses to other mirrorless mounts due to small flange distance, you'd have to remove the original mount and then fit a new one.
Loved the video and style - grow the channel. I used to love product videos, now I'm focusing on the 'soft skills' for video. That said, I loved these lenses, your view and price. More videos. You said you live in Hackney, I'm from West, but always in East (Brick Lane) as I write this. Would love to meet up - fellow creative
Thanks man, yeah not a huge fan of doing the product videography - but love shooting people with new gear and lenses... plan to put out some more tutorial vids, just need to find the time!
Absolutely LOVE the grade you have for the footage for sunset/blue hour. Really really incredible work!
Thanks Charlie, yeah it came out nice. Blue hour really is the perfect time of day to shoot, really balanced exposure and gorgeous diffuse light.
This is the best color timed review of the Nightwalkers so far. Colors are outstanding
Thanks for checking it out Jimbo! Yeah I was happy with how it turned out, got lucky with the weather and a really long sunny day. Amazingly shot this using only the tiny monitor on the Komodo which I'm getting more used to relying on for shooting low profile TH-cam stuff.
Imperfection is perfection! Loved your b-rolls and the way you graded the whole thing. Very interesting lenses, Ed. Thanks so much for this great review! Cheers from Italy
Grazie mille! I agree - I love lenses that have a bit more character. Thanks for checking out the vid!
god I love the footage so much! im glad you noticed the warmer 24mm, a couple of us had, and have supplied our feedback to Sirui. I thought I was going crazy hahaha.
Great review dude!
Yeah, can't really complain at this price point - but they're definitely not super consistent across the set, still very impressive little lenses though!
I wish they were EF
Yeah me too, but from what I gather it'd make them much larger and therefore more expensive.
Just ordered the 34mm, and I can't wait to get started with it!
Whoop have fun with it
man I love that you showed so much sample footage. great review
Thanks Joshua yeah thankful to my friends who let me film them whilst we hung out at the park!
Beautiful shots and grade 🥹
Thanks!
Thanks for the video dude. Good, grass roots, real person style presentation. It’s refreshing to finally hear somebody say it’s ok for a lens to not be perfect. For me, it’s often the idiosyncrasies that create the character.
Exactly. I think because many probably came up through using DSLRs where lenses were traditionally marketed on their sharpness and cleaness - there is this prevailing myth that that is the pinnacle of lens design. But we're seeing a move away from that now because everyone wants "cinematic" so that's become the new marketing push
@@EdProsser A great time to buy a ton of cheap soviet bloc cine lenses haha
I primarily shoot with the bmpcc 6k g2, 4k and the OG, and the idea of having a really interesting 24mm prime at T1.2 is interesting, but my problem is, for the OG and 4k I use the Lumix 12-35mm (MFT) and I have to say it's very difficult to find a lens that is more versatile than that one. Add a black mist filter and a CPL/ND filter and there is just very little that I can't feel confident about shooting. Not to mention in that setup on the 4k and OG the heaviest thing literally is the NPF battery. But that 24mm is still super interesting. Nice review by the way, your footage, as usual is top notch!
I remember that lens! Think it was probably one of the first lenses I ever bought myself for my ol' GH4 - it was great!
I think the benefit of cine style lenses is their manual focus rings are much better to work with than the smaller / electronic focus rings on stills lenses. I also prefer to control my aperture manually.
Great review! I liked the lighting/time of day that you chose.
Yeah was shot around June, stunning golden hour!
Great review and amazing footage! Mind if I ask about your grading for that?
Thanks, check this vid out - th-cam.com/video/hjsFWm-pWk4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=A88kNcd2EfppzSHi
Great review. I am envious of your camera skills. I just picked up the 24mm in gun metal grey for £238! So, I am looking forward to having as much fun as you are. Not sure my results will look as good though 😊
Good stuff they're nice lenses and once you stop down a bit they clean up really well. Used them in a professional gig a few weeks back and they cut in with the DZOFilm Vespids well
1:41 not likely, since those two mounts use a larger flange distance. It would need to be a different optical design
Plenty of lenses have modifications to allow these variations, but yeah I don't think we'll see EF / PL
@@EdProsser Maybe, I'm not sure a different housing would be enough. How would you achieve focus with these same elements when they’re further from the sensor?
@@marianoguy I don't know I'm not a lens manufacturer! I guess they adjust the optics to accommodate this in EF / Pl versions
@@marianoguy I just hate being locked into a mirrorless system as I own both an RF and an L mount cam, so I prefer EF / PL mounts where possible
@@EdProsser well, I am a lens manufacturer. To allow these types of modifications you need to move between similar flange distances. Like from a reflex mount into a pl mount. I'm only kidding of course, I'm not really a lens manufacturer. I agree, I too would like a lens set at this price point in a pl mount to future proof the purchase.
Amazing review! God job!
Thanks have a vid on the new focal lengths - 16mm and 75mm coming very soon
Great Vid! I went ahead and got the 24mm cause I love the focal length!
It's definitely my favourite, I struggled with the 55 a bit, bit more niche for my work.
Nice review, Ed!
Thanks for checking it out Mick!
On the Komodo if you’re shooting 6k the crop is 1.33 so your ff equiv is more like. 32, 46 and 73 which is still quite nice
I hope they do an 18, 85 and 135 next
yeah or a little wider than 18... 16?
@@EdProsser yeah a 16 would be good, i’m curious how they kept the lenses so compact, i wonder if they have floating elements like the FD L 1.2’s?
Actually floating element’s the wrong term the rear element is fixed into the lens mount.
Yeah I'm not sure, I'm not totally clued up on the engineering of lens internals
Thanks Ed. I've just ordered a set, and look forward to trying them. Since your video was made Siri have released a16mm and 75mm as you no doubt know. A very balanced review and great video. I love the look, and it is perfectly suited to your subject matter, The Clinical look has its place of course., but people are softer and these lenses help one see the people rather than the pores in their skin, which is unnatural and disturbing, I find.
Thanks David! Yes I have the 16 and 75 should have a vid out in then soon. They're great
@@EdProsser I look forward to seeing that ! It will be interesting to see how the Sirius lenses work with the DJI focus pro that I’m waiting on delivery . It should nail focus regardless of aperture and using a lens at T1.2 with LiDAR opens up a lot of creative possibilities, I imagine?
Which ND filters did you use in terms of the brand and model? Amazing shots! I just got the Sony FX30
For most of this it was an H&Y revoring VND.
I need these!
They surprised me, I went in as a cynic and they won me over.
@@EdProsser
That's the best type of lens! Haha.
Great review. Do you remember what focal length you used on the 1:44 and 1:54 shot?
I think these were 24mm
Suiri best lens
These are so good they’re swaying me away from buying a full frame FX3 😂
Can the FX3 shoot cropped ? But yeah these are a nice little set of lenses
Go FX30
I'm so intrigued by these lenses, just like you to use them on my Komodo. I already have a set of Meike FF primes so I really don't need them, but since when did that stop me anyway?! :) Thanks for a great review!
Yeah I think you're gonna be hard press to get anything better at this price point, and even then these are really hitting above their price point. Similar to you, I have a set of Vespids, but I can see these being more convenient a lot of the time due to their small form factor and no need for adapters.
@@EdProsser I agree, that is exactly my thoughts too. Making the camera smaller and lighter could be a huge benefit sometimes. I hate it everytime I decide to use my Canon RF glass on the komodo (always for packing reasons), because it's too clean, even with mist filters on it gives that digital look.
This miiight be the solution. But I also know it's that buying new gear sub personality making justifications now haha.
You could pick one up and see how you go! But if you already have the Meike then probably not a huge differentiation
@@EdProsser I might just pick up the 24mm and have it in my "small and fun lenses"-collection together with the Helios 44-2 and some other random stuff. And then maybe it might advance itself out of that box and gets some friends :)
@@storybydanehav that sounds like a fun collection of lenses!
Really nice lenses!
Yeah that's why I thought, they surprised me!!
How much grading was done here. Looks very vintage and i like that but curious how much was straight out of lens?
All the shots were graded - you can watch this vid to see more: th-cam.com/video/hjsFWm-pWk4/w-d-xo.html
I think this is a case where the camera is outrunning the lens
How do you mean? I don't think they make the Komodo look bad - and the fact that they're so small and cheap will likely lend themselves to a lot of environments where you might be using the Komodo as a crash cam (not me!) - or where you want a small footprint.
Like I also mention - some people might have burnt up all their budget on their camera system and need some affordable lenses to get them going - I don't think you can go wrong with these!
@@EdProsser the opposite, the camera is too good for the lens lol
Hi Ed, love the channel. Would there be any negatives to buying one of these lenses and then using an adaptor for use on a Lumix S5?
Unfortunately that wouldn't work - these are Super 35 / APS-C lenses and the flange distance would match, if you used an adapter it would extend the lens too far forward. You'd have to remove the existing mount and re-fit with l-mount. Event after that you wouldn't be able to shoot in full frame on the camera.
Fantastic
Thanks!
Cool but I wish you would have done more night scenes with them.
Shooting at night would mean lighting, probably gross street lighting or bringing my own.
Filming at blue hour where you have a small amount of natural light felt like a good test for them.
What NVD did u use with the komodo for these lens
I think it was the H&Y revoring VND
Are they compatible with full frame Canon R5 or super 35mm?
They will only cover Super 35 sensors
Will these work with BMPCC 4K ? Thanks
Should do!
Are these lenses compatible with my EOS 200D DSLR APS-C camera?
what lens mount does it have? If it's an rf mount then yes
EF or EFS mount only... Does that mean it cant work?
@@music3479 unfortunately they're not available in EF mount
Have you asked if they plan on making an L-mount version?
I haven't, but as there aren't any L-mount S35 cameras - can't see much of a market for them.
@@EdProsser could you use one on an L Mount camera like the S5 with an adaptor?
No you can't adapt mirrorless lenses to other mirrorless mounts due to small flange distance, you'd have to remove the original mount and then fit a new one.
@@EdProsser Oh I love shooting in s35 mode on the s1h. Rolling shutter is great. Think I'm going to try s16 mode next 😁
@@heroaomedia yeah I often shoot in S35 on my LUMIX cams!
Loved the video and style - grow the channel. I used to love product videos, now I'm focusing on the 'soft skills' for video. That said, I loved these lenses, your view and price. More videos. You said you live in Hackney, I'm from West, but always in East (Brick Lane) as I write this. Would love to meet up - fellow creative
Thanks man, yeah not a huge fan of doing the product videography - but love shooting people with new gear and lenses... plan to put out some more tutorial vids, just need to find the time!
They just look like any other lenses...
Thank you for your astute observation !