Sirui Nightwalker vs 7artisans Vision Cine Lenses- BATTLE OF THE BUDGET
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 25 มิ.ย. 2024
- The Sirui Nightwalker lenses are the newest in the super35 camera space. They are currently on Indiegogo now for only $309 USD which is very cheap for what you get.
It is great to see 7artisans and Sirui producing great products for that budget price.
The 7artisan lenses are a very fast T1.05 which perform extremely well under low light conditions but at the cost of sharpness. While the Sirui lenses only start at T1.2 are relatively sharp wide open.
Both sets of lenses have visible chromatic aberrations when wide open which is very common.
It does seem the Sirui lenses are more consistent through the quality of the lenses where the Vision cine lenses do vary with performance
Let me know which one you prefer.
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You just helped me decide. GREAT REVIEW. Thnx a lot, Jason.
Love this comparison! Great job dude
just bought the nightwalker set, so keen to try these out!
Great comparison! I would never have thought there'd be such a quality difference between focal lengths.
What are your thoughts on these compared to the GMaster counterparts. Being as these are film specific. Do you find the extra light gathering or additional focus through worthwhile as a more video specific lens set vs just using the GM set?
GM have a lot of versatility if you need that auto focus. Other wise if you’re using manual focus motors then cinema lenses win
Just got an FX30 a couple of weeks ago and ordered the sirui set this morning, I cant wait to start shooting and learning new things with them.
Certainly a good pair
How’s it working out? Enjoying them?
Honestly, using these budget anamorphics on a camera that doesn’t shoot open gate, is the very definition of wasting money. Do people seriously care about a few lens flares and some oval bokeh? You’re going to be cropping in on your sensor because you got an anamorphic lense…
@@JeffBourkethese are not anamorphic lenses, nor do you have to crop, only de-squeeze for actual anamorphic footage
Thank you Jason, its right on time, the review I was looking for. Sirui look more consistent between lenses in the Nightwalker series. Appreciate the review, thank you!
Yeah consistency might be the key for people
I just purchased the 7artisans 25mm cine lens and I actually got it cheaper than the Siriu on ebay. Brand new and it's working amazingly well.
Really well done comparison. Thanks.
This lenses looks good to me I just made my order to take a look in my streamings let’s see what’s happens good description thanks so much my friend this is Joel from Puerto Rico
Pretty keen on that Sirui set ay 👌
so many lenses.. what a time to be alive!
Thank you for the review. Just perfect! I've been thinking to get 55mm sirui, but I will stick to my nikon lenses for now and wait for samyang to release 85mm 1.5T for L mount.
i do prefer the look of those sirui lenses personally, and the chromatic abberation isnt a huge problem since you can just stop it up a bit and could add a neat look for some situations if you open it back up
that nightwalker is sick, i don’t mind that color cast at all
Really good video Jason. Lots of great info in this comparison. I have the Vision, and I love the weirdness:)
Haha weirdness wins my heart
Nice. You gonna test the Nisi Athena lenses?
I’d love to see a comparison between the Sirui Night Walker Cine T1.2 - 24,35,56 set to the Viltrox Cine T1.5 - 23,33.56 set and the Mitakon Speedmaster T1.0 MFT Cine 17,25,35,50 set. Let them battle it out.
I hope some TH-camr create a video exploring this topic.
i have the vision lenses set for my fuji and I have to say the look is really good. I have a 1/4 promist on all of them and actually don't mind the character of the lenses. The only issue is the weight as most cine lenses are quite heavy as these are. Id however comfortably use them to shoot anything at t2 and if I need some more light and character open up to 1.05. if you wish to have no character you just use the 35 wide open and the rest at t2. the 12mm is also great but at t2.9.
Excellent review. I recently purchased the Fuji X-H2S and have been researching a lot of cost-effective cinema lenses that I can afford. I'm in doubt between this kit from 7Artisans (12, 25, 35 and 50mm) and the kit from Meike S35 Prime (18, 25, 50 and 75). The Meike kit is more expensive, but seems to be better at focusing ventilation. And maybe in terms of clarity, I don't know. The downside of Meike is that I will have to use an adapter (I have the Fringer-EF-FX Pro III).
Have you already tested the Meike S35 Prime?
82mm threads vs 67mm implies a massively higher total cost of ownership if you're heavy into filters. Sirui wins hands down IMHO. The consistency of exposure and sharpness is no contest. These will sell out FAST.
Thanks Jason, I just ordered a set of the Sirui. I had been mulling over the 7 Artisans set but after seeing Jason's results, the Siruis look more practical for me, I don't want too much "character", some of that can be added in post. I've never been a fan of diffusion filters either, went down the Black Promist road early in my career and never going back to that affected look, especially for documentary. 67mm filters are a bonus as I already have a full set of NDs in that size.
Yeah consistency was key here for me
As someone with a bunch of 77mm filters - who doesn’t always want to bring a mate box when shooting handheld - I wholeheartedly agree.
@@remka2000 Why? 82 mm thread can be stepped down with a step down ring but not the 62mm going up.
Why? 82 mm thread can be stepped down with a step down ring but not the 62mm going up. Seems like the opposite
Great video. I still need to release my review of the 7artisans cine lens. This was great and may be hard for me to compete with.
Everyone has a different perspective. Keep smashing it
Personally i prefer the 7Artisans, the 82 mm thread size suits my prefered filter size and the bokeh looks ace. Honestly though both great lenses
You're my hero for this. Thank you!
Thanks for watching
I’ve been looking for a 35mm for a while so this is great!
Wanted to see the focus breathing and roll off! But deffo think nightwalker has the advantage!! Thank you dawg
Thanks for the very useful info, I think I'll settle for the Sirui .
Thanks for the video. As per my experience, even very good lenses exhibit worse sharpness in the close focus area (macro or near-macro). So it might be better to shoot some subject at a bigger distance - best would be a portrait of a person or just a chart. Otherwise I enjoyed the video!-)
Im just sad i did not look for you earlier on YT since i follow you on ig.. you definetly deserve more attention on here for quality of content you provide, from now on im searching for camera videos on your profile first 🤦♂️ 🔥🔥👌
I appreciate that!
The shift in color casting is the main issue with budget cine lenses, since the coatings are never consistent between each lens. It's unfortunate that this ends up being one of the main reasons that lenses with consistent coating retail for much much higher prices, but I guess that process of creating consistent coating is quite costly for the lens manufacturer. Nice review comparison btw!
It is a shame. Chromatic aberrations are not a bad thing, if you’re expecting them and like them.
the meike are pretty consistent
Sadly you need to have scored plenty of weddings for the more upmarket stuff
its an issue, but not the main issue for me. If you read somes many DOP, you will read many times same story : "across all the holywood_brand_of_your_choice line-up lenses, we use just 2 or 3 of theses on this feature, because we need good match about vignetting/contrast/sensation/colors...etc etc" . If you want really perfect match between each shots : use only one lense, my friend. Don't thinks money is the limit. because money absolutely don't give what you think. 😘
I got the sirui 24 on the way. looks like I will be getting the 7artisans 35, and gonna keep looking around for a 50
any insights about rokinon/samyang's newest cine af lens compared to sirui nightwalkers? 🤟🏼
“Don’t waste money”.. it’s like you’re speaking right to me 😅
😂😂😂😂😂
Daaaaaayyyyum😮
How much?😂
I know right. 😂😂😂
thanks for review. I believe it is not enough to compare lenses in close focus distance only, because lenses behave differently in close focus than in "normal" focus distance.
For me I think I prefer the widest and the tightest Sirui lens over the Vision but prefer the mid range Vision over the Sirui. Does anyone else think that or just me?
Great video brotha!
Thank you 🙏🏽
Man so much respect to you and your old lady for getting out there in this Austin Texas ass heat to keep the videos rolling! All I hear is people saying that it’s like “a mf deadly ass Heat wave, probably hottest in recorded history” and y’all keep it Pushin not even a drop of sweat on the film! Lol y’all stay strong and cool please lol
Do the Sirui lenses communicate with the RF system, or are they just naked? Most non-Canon lenses are naked right now. Canon has the best manual focus assist, but nothing has worked with it but Canon RF lenses or adapted EF lenses so far that I know of.
Will this work on the FX3, which has a full-frame sensor?
Hello can you please compare these with slr magic cine lenses as well? They seem comparable
isnt it hard to find the sweet focus point at like f2 or f5.6 plus can you do like a room tour of 2023 would be great plus i own a few manuels lenses and they are great
Have you ever tried the SLR MAGIC Prime Lenses??
@11:13 that shot was really making me think the 7Artisans was WAY too soft, bordering on just blurry and crappy, but when I look at the floor to judge the focal plane, it looks like an incredibly narrow focal plane and it looks like it is actually slightly in front of batman, so now I'm not sure what to think. There is no way the 7Artisans is as blurry as it appears here, or everyone would call it garbage.
Look nice. Shame no EF option as they work on pretty much anything and would be nice on the pocket 6K pro as well.
Yeah usually if there is ef they are larger to account for flange distance. This would allow for PL mount too
Exactly the same reason I’m not buying them
It's not just me?
So Awhile ago I bought a Zhongyi speed master T1 25MM cine lens. Great lens but sadly poor rear mounting sense the only thing holding it in place are really tiny screws. So I switched over to the 7 artisans visions T1.05 because it uses bolts instead of tiny screws. I notice with the two lenses I actually had to step down the 7artisans lens to T1.5.
I already adore Sirui for there anamorphics so I'm assuming the rear mount is actually built better then the speed master.
How was the focus breathing between these lenses?
thanks for this...the Sirui are the better ones...amazing budget lenses for my FX30...if I can only afford one, should I choose 24mm or 35mm? for a general use mostly. Thanks!
Qxq_c hy we remember😊t
Ive seen dozens of videos with the 7artisans Photoelectric 25mm T1.05 Vision Cine Lens at T1.05 and it is sharp. Nothing like your Batman shot. Are you sure you had a good copy?
That flare test is pants, you need a smaller light source and a dark background, then the Sirui flare like hell, like really nicely. the 24 has these huge rainbows, its beauiful.
Canyou do a full frame video too?
*I want to try out Cinema Lens for my FX30 but I'm confused with these terms like T1.5 and So Forth. If I'm not lookin for Client Work but more in terms of just using these for my Channel would I still go by the 50,55mm like a reg lens*
T1.5 or T-stop is almost the same as f-stop. The difference as far as I understand it is that the T-stop measures the amount of light hitting the sensor (or film roll) and f-stop measures the amount of light going through the lens. This sound like it would be the same amount and most often the T-stop and the f-stop are very similar. So to make things easier just think of it as f-stop but with tad more light.
I think the other two people answered this, but just to clarify. My understanding is that F-Stop is a calculated amount of light going through a lens based on size of lens, number and size of elements and I'm guessing distance. (So, a mathematical way of calculating how much light should go through the lens). A T-Stop is a measured amount of light when hitting the sensor. Therefore, the F-stop varies from lens to lens where as a T-Stop should be identical no matter which lens or manufacturer you are using. (in theory as there may be different methods of measurement or uncalibrated measuring devices)
Crazy chromatic aberration on both dayum
Do you think I can buy this Sirui only for street photography in low light conditions ? Or Viltrox 27mm f/1.2 wil be better ? Thanks if you can answer. :)
this is fantastic thank you
Can I self shoot using these lenses with Sony FX30?
Did I miss focus breathing?
Any reco for cheap lens for full frame
One thing to note is that the 7artisans is for full frame and can be used for APS-C but and these nightwalkers are for APS-C only. Shooting full frame will provide better image quality due to the bigger size of a full-sensor camera versus an APS-C sensor. And the full frame Venus and Saturn are too expensive for me. Because of that I prefer the 7artisans.
Seeing the insane haze on the low aperture of the 7 Artisans is gross. Great video and thanks for the comparison!
Dehaze in Resolve
I still get annoyingly amounts of grain in shadows with my FX30 even if I film inside during the day. I use sigma 18-50mm 2.8 and sony 11mm 1.8
i already try everything. Is it possible that this lenses improve my image quality? Your short film look amazing especially the low light scene.
"annoyingly amounts of grain is shadows with FX30". I'm guessing you are filming in LOG? If you read up about LOG footage, most of the information is in the highlights and there is exponentially less information in the shadows. What most people do is expose 1.25-1.75 stops brighter (obviously making sure the bright areas that you want information on do not clip) and then you crush it down in post. This should give you much more information in the shadows and avoid all the noise. Do a google search about exposing Sony Log2 or Log3 footage and you should find lots on info on this.
@@luissinsinvery helpful sir thankss
I like vintage lens characteristics and I don't want CA, so I'm liking the look of the 7Artisans. The bokeh looks smoother too imo
is 7artisian 35mm t2 good for wedding cinematography?? please reply sir
I just bought the 7artisans 50mm lens for my r5c…. I hate the focus pulling. But ima make it do what it do.. 😂
do the Samyang CIne V-AF lenes
I’m keen to get my hands on them!!
love the look of the 7artisans
Bokeh looks a bit different between the two, I'm not talking about the size, but the busyness or the quality of the bokeh. 7Artisans seems to have better bokeh here.
I'd observed that think 7artisan Lenses focused lil bit forward and made the subject less sharp.
Great video, Jason. To confirm, we're you saying that the Sirui 24 and 55 matched, but that the 35 was a bit off from the other two?
That is correct
Can you us a adapter to use on ef mount?
No, these are designed for mirrorless cameras so they cant go to the longer EF mount flange distance.
Big difference in chromatic abberation between the two at 50mm
no for L mount,just for MFT panasonic....
There is no L mount version for the Sirui
Does it support autofocus?
The inconsistent result from 7artisan is such a let down. I thought we finally have a killer budget option from them but turns they don't care about the quality control.
Sirui wins hands down
I was all for these vision cine lenses until that incorrect T stop. Other then that I do like the lenses
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema but i don't think i will recommend or consider them after seeing the difference in image quality wide open in 25, 35, 50.
I have seen many videos but none were as blurry as your set which means this will be a lottery purchase and i don't like playing with my luck
This is a great video thank you for not making people buy these lenses
I keep seeing these and getting excited to look into them, but then I remember I'm 50 and my eyesight says "you aint ever leaving auto focus gramps"
Focus peaking is your friend!
Bummer they are only apsc, was excited for a moment there lol
@Jason morris did you flick me a message the other day? I have mail from you in the spam folder and just want to confirm it is actually from you? Cheers!
I’m sad that they dropped Nikon z mount out of the list
are both APSC ?
I personally think the 7 artisans isnt worth an additional $500 bucks especially if the t stops arent fully accurate and the softeness one then when atopped down is pretty much unsuable
Where’s the timestamps :/
Get 7artisans for dreamy scenes
Post indie campaign prices are $349 usd
Right now BH photo shows them costing 399
@@easterlingderek34 those are the grey ones. The black ones are $349, grey are $399.
Sirui dominated in this comparison
What to buy on a budget then my friend?
We talk for a cinema lens
Nice beginner set I think. I don't think you will find these on the next John Wick set. Good enough for me though.
Hahaha John wick will pass for sure
"Don't Waste Money", bro, your whole career on TH-cam is about wasting money on film equipment that we dont need but want 😅 cmon now.
That comes with the hobby 😂 I've given myself time not to get caught up with the FOMO, like I really want it, but I really don't need it. 🤣
Reeeeally nice comparison! I wonder why Sirui people like that green fringing (not cast) in their lenses so much... 🤷🏻
Interesting to see the difference
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema same with their anamorphic 1.25x adapter
@@ansenvideoproduction yeah I’m not a fan at all with that adapter
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema you can have better results paired with non modern lenses. Still not perfect
which one of the two brands has the correct markings? any updates,
because it seems to me that you were implying that siriu had the correct exposure, is that the truth?
Yes sirui has correct T stops
@@JasonMorrisphotocinema ok! Thanks for the response.
Are these full frame lens?
$349 after the campaign
Just based on what I see in this video, even though Sirui is more consitent, I like far more the 7Artisans Vision image. The 7Artisans image look more artistic and cinematic, which I think is the purpose of using cine lenses. The Sirui look more like a photo lenses, with no character. That's just my conclusion. Cheers!
yeah. I agree. I prefer character
Sirui is best to me
Characteristics on the edges😅-soft
just bought a Sirui Nightwalker and whole set Kase filters for it. Hope it's worthy.
No L Mount on the Sirui
Is “Sirui” really pronounced “Surei”??
*Get the Rokinon 35mm T1.5 cine lens DS or DSX*
Nightwalker lenses are not for L mount…
Don't waste our time with clickbait titles 😅