I miss the days when you could just like a movie and have no idea it was widely disliked. We had it on DVD and I just thought it was cool. Just because I tried to dress like him in high school shouldn't have any bearing on this at all.
THIS🙌🏼 Too often we just accept that a film was once popularly deemed 'bad' and we never go back to challenge that ourselves. If you had fun, if it gave you an experience, if it's about something interesting, what other metrics do we need to just call it a good movie? Awesome video!❤️❤️
Thank you so much! And totally agree! There are a few movies universally panned as bad that I love, I plan to tackle the Halle Berry Cat Woman movie soon, because I loved it as a kid and was shocked how widely disdained it is! Also thanks for your help on the video ❤️
What’s ALSO baffling because you have movies like Rambo II, Rocky 4, COMMANDO, Predator, and Total Recall where *camp is front and center* sometimes, and those movies get passes from action fans.
I honestly love this movie so much. It definitely feels like nostalgia blended together. As someone who just loves vampires and monsters, it was something that captured my attention immediately. Im so in love with the themes, the outfits, the scenery, the silliness to it all *chefs kiss*. I just think that many things definitely needed a little bit more work cuz it was not perfect, but it was definitely a masterpiece in my eyes. Genuinely, I can confidently say this movie was my sexual awakening, specifically the masquerade scene.
Yes, it's definitely not a perfect movie, it's very silly and the tone is uneven at times and some of the effects don't hold up, but it'll always hold a special place in my heart 🥺
Its weird to hear someone say its not good. Everyone ive ever known thought the movie was absolutely amazing. Honestly my second favorite vampire vs werewolf movie behind Underworld: Rise of the Lycans
Totally agree, I just loved this movie so much as a kid I was surprised to see how widely disliked it was, especially when there are worse movies that are more fondly remembered
@@renrants As a comic nerd, I think Spiderman 3 is terrible lol. But Spiderman 1 and 2 are two out of like twelve movies I consider 10/10 lol. I gotta say I'm confused about the gay movie thing. I never really pictured their acting as subtly homoerotic so much as just over acting lol.
@spiffygonzales5160 to me, it's just the amount of emotional investment Dracula has in Van Helsing vs the others, Van Helsing wearing dracula's ring for hundreds of years, Dracula alluding to a shared "sordid" past
This movie was so weird. It's weird how it got such bad reviews when it was very obviously just kinda... goodish. Not bad. Not great. It was a fun silly movie with some unique and interesting elements. It's kinda surprising how Fifth Element is widely considered a cult classic while this is rarely talked about.
As someone who has loved Van Helsing since my first viewing, your video was perfect, every clip was fire and your commentary made my day ❤ keep up the good work
As a young gay, Fraser in the Mummy stoked the fire but Van Hellsing was just gasoline. Hugh Jackman giving the gays everything he couldn’t as Wolverine. The Sass Factor and camp of the vampires. Castlevania aesthetic everywhere from fashion to music.
Yes! So much.. "Who do I want to be vs who am I in love with here?" confusion for me 🤣 the mummy was fine, but the scarab scenes made my skin crawl so much I didn't fixate on it the way I did Van Helsing Van Helsing was just everything my weird little goth heart wanted 🥺🤣
I really can't recommend the Witcher books and games enough. Even though the books came out in the 80s-90ss, it reads like an expanded, more queer and feminist version of Van Hellsing, focusing on a Witcher, a type of monster hunter, as he adopts a bisexual girl as his apprentice who is prophesized to give birth to a Messiah, leading to a massive fight over who gets to control her super baby, with our core cast fighting to preserve her autonomy and ability to consent to what happens with her body. It's full of wonderful twists both dark and fun on old fairy tales and folklore
I love The Witcher! I read the first couple of books and spent about 300 hours on The Witcher III 🤣😭 I totally didn't draw the connection with Van Helsing though, that's a great observation! They definitely have an overlap in vibes.
@@renrants I fell in love with Witcher 3 as soon as I saw the monster designs. They're a bit campy and silly but still treated as scary threats. Have you played the standalone Gwent game or the Tabletop game? The TRPG is absolutely incredible by the way, letting you make all kinds of characters that fit into this world and it has a randomized background generator that is so much fun to see what kind of misfortune your character suffered before the start of the game. They've also used those to expand the world, to greater and lesser effect. Most of it is good except when they went into the Witcher schools' histories. Some get away looking too good, like the Griffin Witchers (I still don't get why people think Witchers have no emotions if the Griffins were so world famous for being Jedi like advisors to kings) while others get kind of crapped on, like the Bears. (All their redeeming qualities are hinted at and instead we get told a bunch of constantly bad negative rumours about them, leading a large portion of fans to think they're strength worshipping survival of the fittest assholes and it drives me crazy).
They were so good! It was the perfect mix of beautiful and genuinely moving, and silly and campy! I haven't played standalone or tabletop Gwent, but now I want to! It's definitely a favorite part of the game for me. That's really interesting, I love a good expanded universe, they always tend to have an amazing mix of really cool stuff and unhinged nonsense that I find so delightful 😅
@@renrants the Tabletop game is just the absolute best. It doesn't even have every class be good at fighting, others are great at verbal combat and talking their way out of stuff, and it naturally encourages more variety of gameplay sessions than DnD, since instead of classes you pick a job for your character. It's so insane to, say, solve an encounter through blacksmithing skills instead of combat. Also if you were wondering the Bear Witchers implied true philosophy is that they're intensely anti-authoritarian firebrands. Makes sense since a lot of early Witcher test subjects were bought as slaves and experimented on, so them breaking off and starting a school all about self determination and them being friends with Skellige because they vote for their rulers and treat their subjects with more respect makes a lot of sense.
It always struck me as odd that the 3 male leads were Aussies! Hugh Jackman, Richard Roxburgh and David Wenham. And fun fact Dracula/Richard Roxburgh married one of his Brides in real life. I enjoyed this when it was released and I never understood why it wasn't a hit. I particularly enjoyed the portrayal of Frankenstein. It managed to be touching and not cliched, no small task. Thanks for the fresh eyes.
Thanks for your kind words, and for that interesting tidbit! I knew Jackman was Australian, but I didn't know about the other two, I totally assumed David Whenam was British 😅
I found it interesting that you included "Queen of the Damned" in your list of "Bisexual" horror movies of the early-to-mid 2000s. It can be said of all of Anne Rice's novels and adaptations that fluid sexuality was a key theme, with the overtly romantic tones and textures of the relationships between Lestat and Louis, Lestat and Marius...Well, pretty much Lestat and everybody, man or woman. Didn't matter, he just wanted to be loved. Who hurt you, Lestat? Come in here close, come in here for the real thing, sweetness. ☺😚😃😁
Vampires are already so sexy and her's are definitely on another level! 😂 I've actually been rereading the Vampire chronicles for my New Year's Resolution and it's been so interesting returning to them, I can't wait to get to Queen of the Damned I'm excited for the second season of Interview With The Vampire, although I don't love all the choices they've made, it's still a lot of fun and it's interesting which parts are more or less faithful to the novel than the movie.
@@renrants I've not seen the new version, I keep meaning to, but I'm so deep into the sequel to my debut novel, I just haven't had the time. After I release it, I'm gonna take several weeks to catch up on all that I've missed, and revisit some old faves...Like Van Helsing. I'm always so thrilled to meet others who enjoyed it. I loved it to pieces! If they do a reboot, I wanna see Eleanor Tomlinson as Anna...or as anyone, I just really wanna see her in those costumes. Ohhhhhhh, she would be sooooooo perfect. 😁😍
Ooh yeah, that would be amazing casting! I'd love to see them bring Hugh Jackman back, but if not I really hope they keep some of the fun mythology the movie created for the character Also what's the name of your first novel? I'd love to check it out :)
I keep telling people this movie is queer gold, but it's harder to convince people than to just lure them over for a queer Hallow-Eve watch party. This is definitely going on the list for 2024. Another underappreciated queer horror classic, and one I was obsessed with as a kid, was the original version of Dark Shadows. That 1960s soap was full to the brim with queer camp, even if you ignore the fact that half the cast were gay IRL, including Barnabas himself, Jonathan Frid! The tumultuous, tortured love triangle between Willie, Jason and Barnabas in particular is *painfully* obvious.
Truly! It's remarkable how little love it gets for how incredibly, delightfully gay it is! I haven't seen that version of Dark Shadows, I'll have to check it out, thanks for the recommendation ☺️
I just watched the movie "Lisa Frankenstein (2024)". The monster turns out to be better than the actual human beings. I liked it very much as it is set in the 1980s. I think it was a great idea for a movie.
@@renrants I just finished watching the TV Show "Extraordinary" Season 2. Yes, its as good as the Season 1. It is well done! Loved this show very much. British people have always been so good with entertainment from the beginning, as they are not shamed to be real true people even when they are acting. Not like annoying Hollywood.
the syfy tv show van helsing, where vanessa aka van, was a pretty cool show. they had a few lgbt characters, including some of their leads. not sure if it is still on netflix to watch but the 1st two seasons r on tubi. the other seasons wont drop til later this year or next
Getting ahead of the Halloween rush? Thank you. Interesting info that I hadn’t considered before. Priscilla Queen of the Desert and its American remake, To Wong Foo, Thanks for Everything! Julie Newmar. I liked both, but the Australian version was a bit better. I’m ashamed to admit that it took more than five minutes to recall any drama with gay leads that I enjoyed. In HS senior class, our English teacher allowed a student to give a monologue from The Boys in the Band that was very sensitive and moving. Now leavened with experience, I think that he had a Truman Capote kind of intelligence with cynicism. Thank you. Take care.
I was actually asking about films that had bisexual vibes rather than actual gay leads, but I wasn't super clear on that either, so you're actually doing great :)
It's one of my favorites too! I think there's honestly a lot about it that's legitimately very good and it feels unfair that it doesn't get more love as a "cult classic" or whatever 😅
@@renrantsAs silly as this is I totally learned how to sit on things like him after seeing him perched next to the gargoyle because I thought he looked so cool! Honestly all the characters are great! I also enjoyed the bitter sweet ending, like Van Helsing it made me cry but also smile. I was sad she was gone but could find happiness and comfort knowing she and her family reunited and were now safe.
I will die in the hill too. This movie is one of my favorites from childhood until today, and had the best monster designs, and to be honest, movies today have terrible cgi Lol
I enjoy that we can have a fair discussion as Americans, and I do see your point. However, if the tables were turned and I was to say to you that this film is a heterosexual masterpiece, would you feel like I was taking ownership and putting in a box whilst labeling it as belonging to the straight community?
I'd probably just think it was silly since straight people don't have to rely on subtext and have tons and tons of stories, including this one, where the hetero romance is explicit in the story. But I wouldn't feel like it was taking my interpretation away from me or anything. There also isn't really a "straight community" y'all have never been oppressed for being straight and therefore have never had to unite in community because of it. 😅 The reason I have "bisexual masterpiece" in the title is because that's one of the unique elements of my interpretation, and I'm also not the only one who has interpreted it that way before. In the video I explicitly acknowledge this is subtext we're projecting onto, it's a bisexual reading of the movie, a bit of a thought experiment where we resolve every ambiguity in favor of the most bisexual interpretation possible. It's also weird to feel like my interpretation of the film is somehow taking possession of it or taking anything away from you. It's still the same movie. You don't have to interpret it the way I am. I don't really expect heterosexual people to interpret media through a queer lens. This video was mostly a fun essay for me to write with the intention of sharing it with my community, or open-minded people who are curious about why I might interpret the film this way. You might just not be the audience for this video and that's okay. 🤷♀️🤷 I think this is a problem with a lot of the "anti-woke" discourse of whatever, where it comes from a place of feeling ownership and feeling like that ownership is being usurped, but art is for everyone and all our interpretations and different versions of things can exist simultaneously. It doesn't need to be either or. Let me ask you this, did you even watch the video before having this reaction? I do appreciate your willingness to engage in discussion as well. Also, I'm Canadian 😅
It can be? For me, it's fun to analyze media through that lens, especially in an era (2004) where media with explicitly gay characters was rare, it's why I use the phrase "queercoded" on several occasions to describe the characters. I am not saying my interpretation is objective, but art is up for interpretation. It's also worth noting there are hetero romances in the movie which means the default interpretation is already a "straight narrative" not a neutral one
I miss the days when you could just like a movie and have no idea it was widely disliked. We had it on DVD and I just thought it was cool. Just because I tried to dress like him in high school shouldn't have any bearing on this at all.
I would agree, but I love being a contrarian who likes a thing everyone else hated 😂
@@renrants I would know nothing about that *cough I like Pulaski and never watched game of thrones cough* sorry. I just have a cold
I love Pulaski, she's so underrated
@@renrants right! I wouldn't want to lose Crusher, but Pulaski added a whole new element
THIS🙌🏼 Too often we just accept that a film was once popularly deemed 'bad' and we never go back to challenge that ourselves. If you had fun, if it gave you an experience, if it's about something interesting, what other metrics do we need to just call it a good movie?
Awesome video!❤️❤️
Thank you so much! And totally agree! There are a few movies universally panned as bad that I love, I plan to tackle the Halle Berry Cat Woman movie soon, because I loved it as a kid and was shocked how widely disdained it is!
Also thanks for your help on the video ❤️
Campiness is considered a dirty word especially in action films, which goes a long way to the bad reviews. Especially from the action crowd.
That makes sense, but they're missing out on all the fun 😅
What’s ALSO baffling because you have movies like Rambo II, Rocky 4, COMMANDO, Predator, and Total Recall where *camp is front and center* sometimes, and those movies get passes from action fans.
Exactly! There are SO MANY campy movies that are beloved, I'm confused this one gets so much hate
I'm a Star Trek fan, we live and breathe camp 🤣
I honestly love this movie so much. It definitely feels like nostalgia blended together. As someone who just loves vampires and monsters, it was something that captured my attention immediately. Im so in love with the themes, the outfits, the scenery, the silliness to it all *chefs kiss*. I just think that many things definitely needed a little bit more work cuz it was not perfect, but it was definitely a masterpiece in my eyes. Genuinely, I can confidently say this movie was my sexual awakening, specifically the masquerade scene.
Yes, it's definitely not a perfect movie, it's very silly and the tone is uneven at times and some of the effects don't hold up, but it'll always hold a special place in my heart 🥺
Its weird to hear someone say its not good. Everyone ive ever known thought the movie was absolutely amazing.
Honestly my second favorite vampire vs werewolf movie behind Underworld: Rise of the Lycans
I loved it so much, but I was shocked to see how many terrible reviews it has 😭
Ah the haters ... Have not got very good critical skills 🤷🏽♀️ I never judge a fantasy or SciFi film by reviews. Too reductive
Totally agree, I just loved this movie so much as a kid I was surprised to see how widely disliked it was, especially when there are worse movies that are more fondly remembered
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As a comic nerd, I think Spiderman 3 is terrible lol. But Spiderman 1 and 2 are two out of like twelve movies I consider 10/10 lol.
I gotta say I'm confused about the gay movie thing. I never really pictured their acting as subtly homoerotic so much as just over acting lol.
@spiffygonzales5160 to me, it's just the amount of emotional investment Dracula has in Van Helsing vs the others, Van Helsing wearing dracula's ring for hundreds of years, Dracula alluding to a shared "sordid" past
This movie was so weird. It's weird how it got such bad reviews when it was very obviously just kinda... goodish. Not bad. Not great. It was a fun silly movie with some unique and interesting elements. It's kinda surprising how Fifth Element is widely considered a cult classic while this is rarely talked about.
Yes! I totally agree, it's on par with sooo many other "cult classics"
Anna and Aleena had SERIOUS chemistry in the film. More so than Gabby and Vladdy.
I was surprised there wasn't like, any fanfiction about them, because I want it 😭
Will Kemp is now a star on Hallmark (and delightful!)
As someone who has loved Van Helsing since my first viewing, your video was perfect, every clip was fire and your commentary made my day ❤ keep up the good work
Thank you so much! 😭🥺❤️
As a young gay, Fraser in the Mummy stoked the fire but Van Hellsing was just gasoline. Hugh Jackman giving the gays everything he couldn’t as Wolverine. The Sass Factor and camp of the vampires. Castlevania aesthetic everywhere from fashion to music.
Yes! So much.. "Who do I want to be vs who am I in love with here?" confusion for me 🤣 the mummy was fine, but the scarab scenes made my skin crawl so much I didn't fixate on it the way I did Van Helsing
Van Helsing was just everything my weird little goth heart wanted 🥺🤣
{27:13} - The Best Part!...😋😘😍
I really can't recommend the Witcher books and games enough. Even though the books came out in the 80s-90ss, it reads like an expanded, more queer and feminist version of Van Hellsing, focusing on a Witcher, a type of monster hunter, as he adopts a bisexual girl as his apprentice who is prophesized to give birth to a Messiah, leading to a massive fight over who gets to control her super baby, with our core cast fighting to preserve her autonomy and ability to consent to what happens with her body. It's full of wonderful twists both dark and fun on old fairy tales and folklore
I love The Witcher! I read the first couple of books and spent about 300 hours on The Witcher III 🤣😭
I totally didn't draw the connection with Van Helsing though, that's a great observation! They definitely have an overlap in vibes.
@@renrants I fell in love with Witcher 3 as soon as I saw the monster designs. They're a bit campy and silly but still treated as scary threats. Have you played the standalone Gwent game or the Tabletop game? The TRPG is absolutely incredible by the way, letting you make all kinds of characters that fit into this world and it has a randomized background generator that is so much fun to see what kind of misfortune your character suffered before the start of the game.
They've also used those to expand the world, to greater and lesser effect. Most of it is good except when they went into the Witcher schools' histories. Some get away looking too good, like the Griffin Witchers (I still don't get why people think Witchers have no emotions if the Griffins were so world famous for being Jedi like advisors to kings) while others get kind of crapped on, like the Bears. (All their redeeming qualities are hinted at and instead we get told a bunch of constantly bad negative rumours about them, leading a large portion of fans to think they're strength worshipping survival of the fittest assholes and it drives me crazy).
They were so good! It was the perfect mix of beautiful and genuinely moving, and silly and campy!
I haven't played standalone or tabletop Gwent, but now I want to! It's definitely a favorite part of the game for me.
That's really interesting, I love a good expanded universe, they always tend to have an amazing mix of really cool stuff and unhinged nonsense that I find so delightful 😅
@@renrants the Tabletop game is just the absolute best. It doesn't even have every class be good at fighting, others are great at verbal combat and talking their way out of stuff, and it naturally encourages more variety of gameplay sessions than DnD, since instead of classes you pick a job for your character. It's so insane to, say, solve an encounter through blacksmithing skills instead of combat.
Also if you were wondering the Bear Witchers implied true philosophy is that they're intensely anti-authoritarian firebrands. Makes sense since a lot of early Witcher test subjects were bought as slaves and experimented on, so them breaking off and starting a school all about self determination and them being friends with Skellige because they vote for their rulers and treat their subjects with more respect makes a lot of sense.
The Mummy was definitely my bisexual awakening 😅❤
Understandable, everyone in that film was gorgeous 😍
Van Helsing, Xena, and Cybersix were mine 😅
Ooh, and Halle Berry's Cat Woman 🙀😍
We all have our guilty pleasures when it comes to movies. Mine is Hudson Hawk.
Ngl I feel very little guilt for Van Helsing 😂 I think it's legitimately just good despite the camp.
It always struck me as odd that the 3 male leads were Aussies! Hugh Jackman, Richard Roxburgh and David Wenham. And fun fact Dracula/Richard Roxburgh married one of his Brides in real life.
I enjoyed this when it was released and I never understood why it wasn't a hit. I particularly enjoyed the portrayal of Frankenstein. It managed to be touching and not cliched, no small task. Thanks for the fresh eyes.
Thanks for your kind words, and for that interesting tidbit! I knew Jackman was Australian, but I didn't know about the other two, I totally assumed David Whenam was British 😅
I had no idea he married Silvia Colloca (just looked it up) that's so cute 😭
Saw this at 14 on TV and I was very confused on why I LOOOOVED the brides of Dracula as much as Dracula himself lol
Truly a formative experience ❤️
...That was Grant from MythBusters! That makes sense.
Isn't that wild?! Just a little lad there, weird seeing him credited just as "Model Maker" 😅
OMG Van Helsing was also my millenial bi awakening (along with the Mummy and Legend of Zorro)!
Glad I'm not alone! :)
I found it interesting that you included "Queen of the Damned" in your list of "Bisexual" horror movies of the early-to-mid 2000s. It can be said of all of Anne Rice's novels and adaptations that fluid sexuality was a key theme, with the overtly romantic tones and textures of the relationships between Lestat and Louis, Lestat and Marius...Well, pretty much Lestat and everybody, man or woman. Didn't matter, he just wanted to be loved.
Who hurt you, Lestat? Come in here close, come in here for the real thing, sweetness. ☺😚😃😁
Vampires are already so sexy and her's are definitely on another level! 😂 I've actually been rereading the Vampire chronicles for my New Year's Resolution and it's been so interesting returning to them, I can't wait to get to Queen of the Damned
I'm excited for the second season of Interview With The Vampire, although I don't love all the choices they've made, it's still a lot of fun and it's interesting which parts are more or less faithful to the novel than the movie.
@@renrants I've not seen the new version, I keep meaning to, but I'm so deep into the sequel to my debut novel, I just haven't had the time. After I release it, I'm gonna take several weeks to catch up on all that I've missed, and revisit some old faves...Like Van Helsing. I'm always so thrilled to meet others who enjoyed it. I loved it to pieces! If they do a reboot, I wanna see Eleanor Tomlinson as Anna...or as anyone, I just really wanna see her in those costumes. Ohhhhhhh, she would be sooooooo perfect. 😁😍
Ooh yeah, that would be amazing casting! I'd love to see them bring Hugh Jackman back, but if not I really hope they keep some of the fun mythology the movie created for the character
Also what's the name of your first novel? I'd love to check it out :)
I keep telling people this movie is queer gold, but it's harder to convince people than to just lure them over for a queer Hallow-Eve watch party. This is definitely going on the list for 2024.
Another underappreciated queer horror classic, and one I was obsessed with as a kid, was the original version of Dark Shadows. That 1960s soap was full to the brim with queer camp, even if you ignore the fact that half the cast were gay IRL, including Barnabas himself, Jonathan Frid! The tumultuous, tortured love triangle between Willie, Jason and Barnabas in particular is *painfully* obvious.
Truly! It's remarkable how little love it gets for how incredibly, delightfully gay it is!
I haven't seen that version of Dark Shadows, I'll have to check it out, thanks for the recommendation ☺️
I just watched the movie "Lisa Frankenstein (2024)".
The monster turns out to be better than the actual human beings.
I liked it very much as it is set in the 1980s.
I think it was a great idea for a movie.
Oh wow, I've been meaning to check that out! :)
@@renrants Okay. :)
Totally gonna watch it tonight! :)
@@renrants I just finished watching the TV Show "Extraordinary" Season 2.
Yes, its as good as the Season 1.
It is well done! Loved this show very much.
British people have always been so good with entertainment from the beginning, as they are not shamed to be real true people even when they are acting. Not like annoying Hollywood.
@giyanvice I love Extraordinary! :) I haven't finished season 2 yet, but it's so much fun!
the syfy tv show van helsing, where vanessa aka van, was a pretty cool show. they had a few lgbt characters, including some of their leads. not sure if it is still on netflix to watch but the 1st two seasons r on tubi. the other seasons wont drop til later this year or next
I've been meaning to check that out, I think I started it, but didn't finish it!
Getting ahead of the Halloween rush? Thank you. Interesting info that I hadn’t considered before. Priscilla Queen of the Desert and its American remake, To Wong Foo, Thanks for Everything! Julie Newmar. I liked both, but the Australian version was a bit better. I’m ashamed to admit that it took more than five minutes to recall any drama with gay leads that I enjoyed. In HS senior class, our English teacher allowed a student to give a monologue from The Boys in the Band that was very sensitive and moving. Now leavened with experience, I think that he had a Truman Capote kind of intelligence with cynicism. Thank you. Take care.
I love To Wong Foo, I had no idea it was a remake, I'll have to check out the original!
I was actually asking about films that had bisexual vibes rather than actual gay leads, but I wasn't super clear on that either, so you're actually doing great :)
@@renrants Chalk and cheese, but enjoy both for what they were. Terrence Stamp's performance comes to mind.
@@renrants I'm not so observant on bisexual vibes. Sorry. But learning.
Learning is good too :)
The Mummy was def my bisexual awakening but somehow I missed this one. 😂
The Mummy is great too, so many beautiful people 🥺
I'd question how an angel (and, it seems, an archangel) could be cursed to become a werewolf, but this isn't exactly a movie that screams "realism".
He's fallen 🥺
I loved this movie and even played the ps2 game. I thought this was an awesome movie
It's one of my favorites
I've always loved van helsing 😂
It's so much fun!
Van Helsing is my favorite movie, I'm not sorry lol
I absolutely adore movies like this always have! So what if it's bad I love it!
It's one of my favorites too!
I think there's honestly a lot about it that's legitimately very good and it feels unfair that it doesn't get more love as a "cult classic" or whatever 😅
@@renrants maaan I had the BIGGEST crush on Dracula when I was like twelve. I swear he helped shape my "type" 😂
It was Anna and Aleera for me, and I absolutely wanted to be Van Helsing 😅
Dracula definitely has something going on though, he's one of the best things in the movie, love him
@@renrantsAs silly as this is I totally learned how to sit on things like him after seeing him perched next to the gargoyle because I thought he looked so cool!
Honestly all the characters are great!
I also enjoyed the bitter sweet ending, like Van Helsing it made me cry but also smile. I was sad she was gone but could find happiness and comfort knowing she and her family reunited and were now safe.
I will die in the hill too. This movie is one of my favorites from childhood until today, and had the best monster designs, and to be honest, movies today have terrible cgi Lol
Seriously, the worst CGI in this movie is on par with average CGI these days
@renrants Yes, studios went lazy and cheap at times. No wonder why no more new classics are made. Love your review on the movie
Thank you so much! ❤️
It's definitely a shame studios are more interested in compensating executives than they are in investing in their productions.
@renrants yeah hope you have a good Halloween season so far 👻
@darthleia2536 it's my favorite time of year! I'm working on a shorter review of the new Beetle Juice movie 😅
I enjoy that we can have a fair discussion as Americans, and I do see your point. However, if the tables were turned and I was to say to you that this film is a heterosexual masterpiece, would you feel like I was taking ownership and putting in a box whilst labeling it as belonging to the straight community?
I'd probably just think it was silly since straight people don't have to rely on subtext and have tons and tons of stories, including this one, where the hetero romance is explicit in the story. But I wouldn't feel like it was taking my interpretation away from me or anything. There also isn't really a "straight community" y'all have never been oppressed for being straight and therefore have never had to unite in community because of it. 😅
The reason I have "bisexual masterpiece" in the title is because that's one of the unique elements of my interpretation, and I'm also not the only one who has interpreted it that way before.
In the video I explicitly acknowledge this is subtext we're projecting onto, it's a bisexual reading of the movie, a bit of a thought experiment where we resolve every ambiguity in favor of the most bisexual interpretation possible.
It's also weird to feel like my interpretation of the film is somehow taking possession of it or taking anything away from you. It's still the same movie. You don't have to interpret it the way I am. I don't really expect heterosexual people to interpret media through a queer lens. This video was mostly a fun essay for me to write with the intention of sharing it with my community, or open-minded people who are curious about why I might interpret the film this way. You might just not be the audience for this video and that's okay. 🤷♀️🤷
I think this is a problem with a lot of the "anti-woke" discourse of whatever, where it comes from a place of feeling ownership and feeling like that ownership is being usurped, but art is for everyone and all our interpretations and different versions of things can exist simultaneously. It doesn't need to be either or.
Let me ask you this, did you even watch the video before having this reaction? I do appreciate your willingness to engage in discussion as well.
Also, I'm Canadian 😅
That it's a bisexual masterpiece! Why can't it be just a good movie without putting it into any narrative, straight or gay
It can be? For me, it's fun to analyze media through that lens, especially in an era (2004) where media with explicitly gay characters was rare, it's why I use the phrase "queercoded" on several occasions to describe the characters.
I am not saying my interpretation is objective, but art is up for interpretation.
It's also worth noting there are hetero romances in the movie which means the default interpretation is already a "straight narrative" not a neutral one
both? both!
Bull s--t
What specifically is bullshit? :)