Fascinating piece of film - and all the more so for letting the machinery and events speak for themselves. The odd piece of text is very helpful. All very ingenious! Thank you.
Informative and entertaining. Good work. This is the line that ran behind my parent's house at Newton Grange. Sadly, they missed seeing it rebuilt by eighteen months. Brings back so many memories. Thanks for sharing.
Having track laying in the name may be the explanation for the high number of views. I kind of suspected this might be the case thanks for helping me reach my conclusion. The possibility exits that the line will be extend in the future to Hawick I will make sure, if it does, that tracking laying through Melrose and St Bowell's is more interesting.
Thanks for the reply. I feel a little silly as I have viewed a few more of your informative videos on the subject and found my enquiry premature. Either way many thanks for the reply. Here in Australia I have travel many thousands of kilometres and found towns in the outback in sharp decline once the railway was removed from use, however, private companies are purchasing or leasing lines from the various state governments to run goods but alas no passenger trains.
and to think Dr. beaching has probably turned over in his grave over the reopening of this line saddly there's a bunch of railway lines here in the USA that are abandoned in place rail and sometimes full trains still ( with steam locomotives sometimes) just rusting away :(
They don't clip the rails down fully until the rails have been welded together and temperature stressed, they only temporally clipped together at this stage. The trains are only moving a low speed so it not a problem. After ballasting between the sleepers the ballast is them tamped and its position and cant (super elevation) of the track adjusted, its need to be unclipped for some of this.
Laying of LWR (Long Welded Rail) without auxiliary track (as done by PQRS - Plasser Quick Relay System). This saves half of time and cost. Method is efficient but Track Laying Machine is more efficient and cost more. Man power required for various jobs of track fastening etc. -Pune. India.
I saw on an the name "Hoosier State"'' which would refer to Indiana in USA. I also thought there were a lot of people who did nothing. Still, iteresting :)
how many miles of track can they lay in one work day? building a rail road has came a long way in the last 100 years; wonder what it will be in another 100 years that is if they even have rail lines then? Thanks for a very educational video.
They did 1300metres per day, which I think was the amount of rails they could get on the train. The line is 50km long 65km single track equivalent so it would have taken 10 weaks (Mon-Fri) had they not had to pause due to an unrelated accident that occured on the project. The bottom ballast, sleepers and other preperation work were done in advance. Most of the railway was built on the route of the old line that closed in 1969 so alot of the civil enginerring structures are not new but were refurbished to modern standards. It cost £11,000,000 per mile alot of the cost was expensive new structures to replace missing strucutres and to accomodate new roads built since 1969.
An impressive achievement, however I don't think they were in that much of a hurry . Having the capacity to build 10 miles a day is probably not going to be required in the UK any time soon. if it was we could undo Dr Beeching in a couple of years. The current rate of reopening is more like 10 miles year.
You gotta wonder how much financial risk is undertaken by whomever hires Crew X over Crew Y. And how do you determine the 'sweet spot' in the trade-offs: machine maintenance levels, fuel economy, labour costs, and deadlines. All the math and computer modelling in the world looks good until it fails ya. Just saying.
+AustNRail This is re opening the part of the Waverly line which closed in 1969 for Edinburgh to Galashiels (Tweedbank). It is now open. See more recent videos
Can anyone explain to me why the rail sections are so short compared to Mainland Europe and the USA/Canada. Perhaps the riders demand the Clickity Clack or rail joints to fall asleep.
@@nickbenjamin9919 My main interest in this sort of thing was when they were building the Borders Railway. The channel was to show people what was happening at the time. With an extensions mooted the channel may come back to life.
They were laying 1.2km per day which is all they needed to do given the local conditions. Doing things quickly is not required when they could only go as fast as the things were prepared in front. The will have assessed what they needed to do to complete the line on time and on Budget and put the resources and equipment in place to achieve that.
There's a video on TH-cam showing tracks being laid I think in India, the machine doing it must have cost a fortune, probably paid for by us, BUT the track goes down automatically in one piece followed by the Ballast and the workers are all wearing the latest flip flops, no hats.
+Arnold Robert Lee This method was chosen for practical reason it contrasts the Airdrie Bathgate line where the rail were put in place and welded then sleepers were added by a machine th-cam.com/video/LhVu7jQZXy0/w-d-xo.html
I think to get a job with Network Rail you need some "Inside help" i.e. your father, brother, uncle etc. work there, None of them seem to be overworked , the hardest part is the bad weather conditions they have to work in, Job for life if you can get in there.
+48firefox I think you will find each man has a specific job and does it avoiding getting in each others way and thereby avoiding accidents. There is inevitable a lot of standing around waiting on each other and the machine to do its work. They needed to get the job done on time with fewer people delays might occur that could cost more than the wages saved. They managed to lay over 1km of track per day by this method that all that the train could be loaded with. My grandfather worked on the rail as did his father and grandfather it was a job for life then. The railway in the borders closed when I was 3 years old, I am too old to get a job on the railway.
Thanks for making your videos, they all add to the sum of human knowledge be it local history, technology or working practices. Curiosity prompted me to view, the TH-cam algorithms having predicted my possible interest! At first I thought that I was watching a group of steam preservation enthusiasts with a strong health & safety ethic relaying track on a Sunday afternoon. That size of gang was required for handling the old 60ft rails but in this video the only repetitive grunt required is the 2-man positioning of the rollers, and (3-man?) lifting of the clip securing machines. Even having studied the work process closely and read all the comments it is hard for this layman not to conclude that the gang is overmanned. It would be too easy to blame the unions, and hopefully incorrect. Could it be that the contractor here needs to keep a skilled core workforce employed between the intense periods of weekend and holiday work on major upgrades where not having the right people safely in the right place at the right time can lead to huge national cost and inconvenience for rail users.The comparatively short distance of this railway probably justifies the lower tech labour intensive track laying method. The next time I wince at the cost of a rail ticket I will remember this video !
While it maybe true Network Rail has a sizable workforce for line maintenance and inspection, I would hazard to bet it contracts out most of its major infrastructure work - new line, bridge and facilities construction, etc. - to the private sector.
Just think, the THOUSANDS of miles of track laid in the UK is on cutting, flat, embankments, viaducts and through tunnels ALL originally dug, shovelled, cut, cleared and laid by mainly Irish workers and ALL done BY HAND!
In North America (Canada & the US) it would have been European immigrant, African-American and Asian labourers, with the latter two being paid 1/2 the wage (or less) than a European labourer.
The video shows the railway returning to the Scottish Borders after 48 years of closure as to all the other videos I have up loaded. It you are not interested in that don't watch them. Sorry that this is not clear if you look at the channel you may get the point. Don't waste your time on them if you are not interested in this. I honestly don't know why this video has had ten times as many views as the others.
_"I honestly don't know why this video has had ten times as many views as the others."_ It's likely because at some viewership threshold, YT places the more viewed videos of a channel ahead of others in peoples feeds which draws more to watch it before the others, even as in this case, there are previous videos in the series showing the progress of work. It would also be helpful to plan ahead by labelling your videos in sequence accordingly (i.e. "part 2" or "2nd of 4" or something similar) and add links to your other videos in the series either in the description or as popup tags over the current video.
David Quin I think its the case that each man had a specific job to do during the process and had to wait their turn to do there bit. This avoid the risk of people getting in each other way there is also a need to stand clear when the train is moving . This work is more dangerous than it appears is some gets several tonnes of rail landing on them.
union reps, health and safety inspectors, forman and managers just there to make sure everything goes ok lol. Have to keep a close eye on the workers or they will stop for a tea break every half hr lol. The union rep is to make sure the workers dont work to hard and to make sure they dont work too fast so they get paid more for taking longer than they should. health and safety to make sure no one is in danger of getting hurt. forman just to make sure everyone else is doing their job right and the manager to make them go faster lol. typical british system. more bosses than workers. Several places i worked there was 1 manager 1 forman 1 union rep for every 3 workers. Its why it costs so much to get anything built. NHS has the same prob. too many non medicaly trained staff in the back room deciding what treatment doctors can give and what they cant do. To pay for those staff they have to cut the amount of doctors and nurses on the front line. Its what they call Quangos. ppl that r not needed but get paid more than the ones actualy doing a real job.
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Fascinating piece of film - and all the more so for letting the machinery and events speak for themselves. The odd piece of text is very helpful. All very ingenious! Thank you.
Informative and entertaining. Good work. This is the line that ran behind my parent's house at Newton Grange. Sadly, they missed seeing it rebuilt by eighteen months. Brings back so many memories. Thanks for sharing.
I watch a lot of rail laying vids..no biggie, it just didn't click. Glad you are getting lots of views.
Having track laying in the name may be the explanation for the high number of views. I kind of suspected this might be the case thanks for helping me reach my conclusion. The possibility exits that the line will be extend in the future to Hawick I will make sure, if it does, that tracking laying through Melrose and St Bowell's is more interesting.
Thanks for the reply. I feel a little silly as I have viewed a few more of your informative videos on the subject and found my enquiry premature. Either way many thanks for the reply. Here in Australia I have travel many thousands of kilometres and found towns in the outback in sharp decline once the railway was removed from use, however, private companies are purchasing or leasing lines from the various state governments to run goods but alas no passenger trains.
Those little tracked carts are pretty cool. I could totally turn those into robots for some useless purpose.
Sixteen man crew. Four working, leaving an even dozen to watch that no one gets hurt!
and to think Dr. beaching has probably turned over in his grave over the reopening of this line saddly there's a bunch of railway lines here in the USA that are abandoned in place rail and sometimes full trains still ( with steam locomotives sometimes) just rusting away :(
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I installed the foot bridge and stairs there.
when do they clip in the balance of the rail securing thingy mabobs along the rail; it seems they only do every 4th or 5th one?
They don't clip the rails down fully until the rails have been welded together and temperature stressed, they only temporally clipped together at this stage. The trains are only moving a low speed so it not a problem. After ballasting between the sleepers the ballast is them tamped and its position and cant (super elevation) of the track adjusted, its need to be unclipped for some of this.
Albeit no narration, the filming details the mechanics of laying new rail.
loved the guy on the left just getting out and having a piss
Laying of LWR (Long Welded Rail) without auxiliary track (as done by PQRS - Plasser Quick Relay System). This saves half of time and cost. Method is efficient but Track Laying Machine is more efficient and cost more. Man power required for various jobs of track fastening etc. -Pune. India.
I saw on an the name "Hoosier State"'' which would refer to Indiana in USA. I also thought there were a lot of people who did nothing. Still, iteresting :)
how many miles of track can they lay in one work day? building a rail road has came a long way in the last 100 years; wonder what it will be in another 100 years that is if they even have rail lines then? Thanks for a very educational video.
They did 1300metres per day, which I think was the amount of rails they could get on the train. The line is 50km long 65km single track equivalent so it would have taken 10 weaks (Mon-Fri) had they not had to pause due to an unrelated accident that occured on the project. The bottom ballast, sleepers and other preperation work were done in advance. Most of the railway was built on the route of the old line that closed in 1969 so alot of the civil enginerring structures are not new but were refurbished to modern standards. It cost £11,000,000 per mile alot of the cost was expensive new structures to replace missing strucutres and to accomodate new roads built since 1969.
In the US, the record for many years was 10 miles per day during the building of the transcontinental railroad in the late 1860's.
An impressive achievement, however I don't think they were in that much of a hurry . Having the capacity to build 10 miles a day is probably not going to be required in the UK any time soon. if it was we could undo Dr Beeching in a couple of years. The current rate of reopening is more like 10 miles year.
You gotta wonder how much financial risk is undertaken by whomever hires Crew X over Crew Y. And how do you determine the 'sweet spot' in the trade-offs: machine maintenance levels, fuel economy, labour costs, and deadlines. All the math and computer modelling in the world looks good until it fails ya. Just saying.
Is this a new railway, or rebuilding an existing one? Or is it reopening a closed line?
+AustNRail This is re opening the part of the Waverly line which closed in 1969 for Edinburgh to Galashiels (Tweedbank). It is now open. See more recent videos
Can anyone explain to me why the rail sections are so short compared to Mainland Europe and the USA/Canada. Perhaps the riders demand the Clickity Clack or rail joints to fall asleep.
The get welded togther after they are laid there by forming continuously welded track
What's the name , make and model
and machine of the rail feeder machine ?
Sorry I don't know I read somewhere it was a Norwegian system. The contractor was BAM Nuttall
@@WaverleyWanderer thanks for replying . Its similar to the Giesmar STR , I like the Rail Threader on the Cat Tracks set up .
@@nickbenjamin9919 My main interest in this sort of thing was when they were building the Borders Railway. The channel was to show people what was happening at the time. With an extensions mooted the channel may come back to life.
Seems to be a very wide gauge?
No its standard gauge. There may be some distortion of the video
Can someone please give me the grid reference on Google Earth for this. Thx.
www.google.co.uk/maps/@55.6923137,-2.8671215,20.1z
Watched the French railways building a new line ,3km a day !!! these guys need a rocket up their bottoms
They were laying 1.2km per day which is all they needed to do given the local conditions. Doing things quickly is not required when they could only go as fast as the things were prepared in front. The will have assessed what they needed to do to complete the line on time and on Budget and put the resources and equipment in place to achieve that.
There's a video on TH-cam showing tracks being laid I think in India, the machine doing it must have cost a fortune, probably paid for by us, BUT the track goes down automatically in one piece followed by the Ballast and the workers are all wearing the latest flip flops, no hats.
+Arnold Robert Lee This method was chosen for practical reason it contrasts the Airdrie Bathgate line where the rail were put in place and welded then sleepers were added by a machine
th-cam.com/video/LhVu7jQZXy0/w-d-xo.html
Focus!
Sorry crap camera and probably uploaded at wrong resolution or soemthing
I think to get a job with Network Rail you need some "Inside help" i.e. your father, brother, uncle etc. work there, None of them seem to be overworked , the hardest part is the bad weather conditions they have to work in, Job for life if you can get in there.
+48firefox I think you will find each man has a specific job and does it avoiding getting in each others way and thereby avoiding accidents. There is inevitable a lot of standing around waiting on each other and the machine to do its work. They needed to get the job done on time with fewer people delays might occur that could cost more than the wages saved. They managed to lay over 1km of track per day by this method that all that the train could be loaded with. My grandfather worked on the rail as did his father and grandfather it was a job for life then. The railway in the borders closed when I was 3 years old, I am too old to get a job on the railway.
Thanks for making your videos, they all add to the sum of human knowledge be it local history, technology or working practices. Curiosity prompted me to view, the TH-cam algorithms having predicted my possible interest! At first I thought that I was watching a group of steam preservation enthusiasts with a strong health & safety ethic relaying track on a Sunday afternoon. That size of gang was required for handling the old 60ft rails but in this video the only repetitive grunt required is the 2-man positioning of the rollers, and (3-man?) lifting of the clip securing machines. Even having studied the work process closely and read all the comments it is hard for this layman not to conclude that the gang is overmanned. It would be too easy to blame the unions, and hopefully incorrect. Could it be that the contractor here needs to keep a skilled core workforce employed between the intense periods of weekend and holiday work on major upgrades where not having the right people safely in the right place at the right time can lead to huge national cost and inconvenience for rail users.The comparatively short distance of this railway probably justifies the lower tech labour intensive track laying method. The next time I wince at the cost of a rail ticket I will remember this video !
While it maybe true Network Rail has a sizable workforce for line maintenance and inspection, I would hazard to bet it contracts out most of its major infrastructure work - new line, bridge and facilities construction, etc. - to the private sector.
Just think, the THOUSANDS of miles of track laid in the UK is on cutting, flat, embankments, viaducts and through tunnels ALL originally dug, shovelled, cut, cleared and laid by mainly Irish workers and ALL done BY HAND!
Gawds, I hadn't thought o' that, Paddy !!!
In North America (Canada & the US) it would have been European immigrant, African-American and Asian labourers, with the latter two being paid 1/2 the wage (or less) than a European labourer.
Too many chickens not enough eggs
A lot of guys watching...
+Maurice Ryton see previous comment
Interesting the the camera operator kept the guy peeing on the left side of the image in the frame.
Ooops I never noticed this.
Wtf there flexible?
Steel is not as rigid as you might think. In short lengths, yes. But in long lengths, you'd be surprised at how easily it bends.
Then, as it seems you are trying to show an overstaffing issue, then indicate that and don't waste our time.
The video shows the railway returning to the Scottish Borders after 48 years of closure as to all the other videos I have up loaded. It you are not interested in that don't watch them. Sorry that this is not clear if you look at the channel you may get the point. Don't waste your time on them if you are not interested in this. I honestly don't know why this video has had ten times as many views as the others.
_"I honestly don't know why this video has had ten times as many views as the others."_
It's likely because at some viewership threshold, YT places the more viewed videos of a channel ahead of others in peoples feeds which draws more to watch it before the others, even as in this case, there are previous videos in the series showing the progress of work.
It would also be helpful to plan ahead by labelling your videos in sequence accordingly (i.e. "part 2" or "2nd of 4" or something similar) and add links to your other videos in the series either in the description or as popup tags over the current video.
Looks like their using fake wood now, must be some ultra high tech stuff..
Seem to be a lot of guys standing around not doing anything. Government employees>
David Quin I think its the case that each man had a specific job to do during the process and had to wait their turn to do there bit. This avoid the risk of people getting in each other way there is also a need to stand clear when the train is moving . This work is more dangerous than it appears is some gets several tonnes of rail landing on them.
union reps, health and safety inspectors, forman and managers just there to make sure everything goes ok lol. Have to keep a close eye on the workers or they will stop for a tea break every half hr lol. The union rep is to make sure the workers dont work to hard and to make sure they dont work too fast so they get paid more for taking longer than they should. health and safety to make sure no one is in danger of getting hurt. forman just to make sure everyone else is doing their job right and the manager to make them go faster lol. typical british system. more bosses than workers.
Several places i worked there was 1 manager 1 forman 1 union rep for every 3 workers. Its why it costs so much to get anything built.
NHS has the same prob. too many non medicaly trained staff in the back room deciding what treatment doctors can give and what they cant do. To pay for those staff they have to cut the amount of doctors and nurses on the front line. Its what they call Quangos. ppl that r not needed but get paid more than the ones actualy doing a real job.
David Quin Not a lot they can do while the train passes! Think about it !!!
Totally boring.
Ok it is a special interest video that was newsworthy at the time.