I would have loved to listen to this but the audio was a bit rough. I believe there are AI tools out now that can smooth audio . Thanks for producing it!
Hi, thanks for the comment, sorry to hear that. It’s actually an edit of Fahim’s video, so it might be that it’s better audio on his channel? If you want to take a look, the link to the original video is at: th-cam.com/video/dj60syieSc4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=XZPb0HGfubLARB-K
How do you see the landscape of counselling with the increased popularity of coaching in the past few years? Do you think it would become more difficult for counsellors to attract clients?
Thanks, great question, I don’t know a huge amount about how the coaching world is doing compared to therapy, because I think pretty every one I know is a therapist, with just a few combining it with coaching. What came to mind for me though is that I’ve seen a significant rise in the profile of therapy culturally and in the media, rather than coaching. I think that’s because lots more people are actually needing to go to therapy, rather than ‘just’ wanting to go and, because they’re struggling quite a lot. I don’t think the perception (or reality) is that coaching would be sufficient to help them through their issues. My sense would therefore be that coaching isn’t actually a direct ‘threat’, so to speak, to therapists. Personally, I think that’s coming from the cheaper online therapy platforms that advertise really heavily on social media, often to younger people. What are your thoughts? Anything you’ve noticed particularly?
@@JohnPaulDaviesTTP Thanks for your response. I value your observation about rise in the profile of therapy culturally. I know from insurance perspective there is a significant increase for claims related to mental health issues since COVID and that aligns well with your observation regarding more people “needing” to get help. I don’t have enough data to be able to make a thorough conclusion at this point but based on my observations I think coaching is becoming popular, and it is taking some “market share” away from therapy for various reasons. However, on the flip side it is providing more publicity and awareness for the value of mental health so it might increase the “market size” in general by bringing more awareness to the importance of paying attention to mental health (that would compensate to some extent for the reduced market share). I think due to lack of regulation for coaching there are more incompetent coaches than therapists, but I also strongly believe traditional education by itself does not necessarily make good therapists (or coaches). I am hoping in the future the awareness between distinctions of coaching vs. therapy become clearer for the public and overall, I am glad to see more people are becoming open to “getting help” one way or another. I also wanted to thank you for your genuine content, especially those around career change to therapy as it is something I am considering myself.
Thanks for your observations and comments, I agree with all of your points, it's an interesting subject isn't it. I have a friend who I trained with who was originally a coach and then trained to be a therapist and she now actually combines the two. She has a team of people who also work for her who are similarly 'dual' trained, so I think the two can actually be combined and work quite well together. It probably makes it easier for people to ask for help sometimes if they're able to say it's coaching rather than therapy too. I asked her to come on and talk about the relationship on this channel by the way, but it just hasn't worked out yet timing-wise unfortunately. On the training issue, yes it's worrying how little training someone might to have to call themselves a coach because there's always likely to be a mental health component to the relationship. Of course therapist is not a 'protected' title either, although I suspect that's all going to be changing with SCoPEd in the UK. Thanks for what you say about the content, it's great to hear and I appreciate it. Let me know how it all goes if you move forward with the change.
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Great speaking with you John-Paul! All the best.
Thanks Fahim, you too, think it worked out really well
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I would have loved to listen to this but the audio was a bit rough. I believe there are AI tools out now that can smooth audio . Thanks for producing it!
Hi, thanks for the comment, sorry to hear that. It’s actually an edit of Fahim’s video, so it might be that it’s better audio on his channel? If you want to take a look, the link to the original video is at: th-cam.com/video/dj60syieSc4/w-d-xo.htmlsi=XZPb0HGfubLARB-K
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How do you see the landscape of counselling with the increased popularity of coaching in the past few years? Do you think it would become more difficult for counsellors to attract clients?
Thanks, great question, I don’t know a huge amount about how the coaching world is doing compared to therapy, because I think pretty every one I know is a therapist, with just a few combining it with coaching.
What came to mind for me though is that I’ve seen a significant rise in the profile of therapy culturally and in the media, rather than coaching. I think that’s because lots more people are actually needing to go to therapy, rather than ‘just’ wanting to go and, because they’re struggling quite a lot. I don’t think the perception (or reality) is that coaching would be sufficient to help them through their issues.
My sense would therefore be that coaching isn’t actually a direct ‘threat’, so to speak, to therapists. Personally, I think that’s coming from the cheaper online therapy platforms that advertise really heavily on social media, often to younger people.
What are your thoughts? Anything you’ve noticed particularly?
@@JohnPaulDaviesTTP Thanks for your response. I value your observation about rise in the profile of therapy culturally. I know from insurance perspective there is a significant increase for claims related to mental health issues since COVID and that aligns well with your observation regarding more people “needing” to get help.
I don’t have enough data to be able to make a thorough conclusion at this point but based on my observations I think coaching is becoming popular, and it is taking some “market share” away from therapy for various reasons. However, on the flip side it is providing more publicity and awareness for the value of mental health so it might increase the “market size” in general by bringing more awareness to the importance of paying attention to mental health (that would compensate to some extent for the reduced market share).
I think due to lack of regulation for coaching there are more incompetent coaches than therapists, but I also strongly believe traditional education by itself does not necessarily make good therapists (or coaches). I am hoping in the future the awareness between distinctions of coaching vs. therapy become clearer for the public and overall, I am glad to see more people are becoming open to “getting help” one way or another.
I also wanted to thank you for your genuine content, especially those around career change to therapy as it is something I am considering myself.
Thanks for your observations and comments, I agree with all of your points, it's an interesting subject isn't it. I have a friend who I trained with who was originally a coach and then trained to be a therapist and she now actually combines the two. She has a team of people who also work for her who are similarly 'dual' trained, so I think the two can actually be combined and work quite well together. It probably makes it easier for people to ask for help sometimes if they're able to say it's coaching rather than therapy too. I asked her to come on and talk about the relationship on this channel by the way, but it just hasn't worked out yet timing-wise unfortunately.
On the training issue, yes it's worrying how little training someone might to have to call themselves a coach because there's always likely to be a mental health component to the relationship. Of course therapist is not a 'protected' title either, although I suspect that's all going to be changing with SCoPEd in the UK.
Thanks for what you say about the content, it's great to hear and I appreciate it. Let me know how it all goes if you move forward with the change.