No wonder why we are not seeing any MX4 coming anytime soon, cannot get much better. I am using my MX3 for many years which I upgraded with silent switches from Keith and it still rocks. For the touching coat issue, I also had the issue. I have tried many stuff to clean it, but ended up with using just warm water. That still work to today.
I love my mx master 3s, but the soft touch coating is garbage. It will decay and is just a matter of time. I love functioqnlity and quick scroll, but would much rather have hard plastic
Indeed. I loved my mx master 3s, but it turned to garbage after 2 years of use because of that awful coating. I don't want to buy it again, so I ordered the Keychron one.
Agree. Owned the original MX Master and went to the Master 3 back in 2021. Love the mouse in general but that rubber coating degrades and the mouse looks shoddy after a couple of years - and I keep my hands pretty clean. Really hope they just go to a high quality matte plastic for the Master 4.
@@MarshallFlores I can pretty much guarantee they wont. I suspect this was intentional planned obsolescence... and based on other rumors about logitech suggesting future peripherals could be "subscription based"... I dont know...
I ordered the MX 3s and used it for a couple of weeks and I just could not get around it 100%. My main issues were that, in Mac, the scrolling is horrible. The smooth scroll is, in my opinion, one of the best Mac features and it is definitely underwhelming how bad the logi options software manages it, specially having that wonderful scroll wheel to work with. My second round of headaches came with the Bluetooth connection, it randomly "disconnected" (quotes because mac reported it was connected) and stopped moving, huge pain in the ass while working. I tried the 2.4ghz adapter and got even worst results, doing some internet digging I discovered it was probably related to the USB A hub I have been using, however, this was the only device presenting problems, so I leaved my ugreen 20 USB hub be. My deal breaker in the end was the deplorable polling rate being a lot more notizable in my devices (both with high refresh rates screens). In mac it is baaad, and I mean, bad to the point that, some applications, report movements missed due the polling rate being so low. I was able to live with that, I mean, if you up the DPI you can mitigate a bit the low polling rate and the scrolling gets a lot better using a 3rd party software (in my case shoutout to MacMouseFix) but in windows it is unusable. Bluetooth in windows is shit, and probably will always be, but man, with the receiver and a 140hz display you can see you mouse jumping around a lot. Don''t even dream to game on that mouse, you will get better results aiming with a trackpad than the logi, don't get me wrong, I know this mouse is not marketed as a gaming mouse, but any 20USD mouse is way above that polling rate and for 100USD that polling rate and the downsides it represents is unjustifiable for me. The reason I write this is that I feel like the general opinion on reviews and comparisons is a bit unfair for the M6 because I believe this is not considering the real product space the M6 was designed for: Flexibility. That is the reason I got it, is that I could just not forgive the low polling rate of the XM3S, but I liked many of its features, so, the M6 is a great compromise and a great product having this in mind. I agree with the main criticism, the materials quality feels less premium, however, more durable than logi ones. The polling rate makes it feel *chef kiss* for high refresh rate devices. The ergonomics are not as good as logi, but you can have a lot of playroom with the 50 USD you are saving and can get a good wrist rest or something. Is it uncomfortable? Hell no, way more comfortable than my hero 502. I loved the customization on the logitech, but knowing how to use the Keychron software and Mac Mouse Fix you can get a goddam great productivity mouse on mac and windows, specially because you can set different set of macros per system and carry them in the onboard memory. I believe that, for my specific needs, M6 was great. If you are looking for a great productivity, and can overlook the MX3S details, that is your mouse. But the M6 is ready to fill a ver specific space and is filling it great
I appreciate your reviews a lot, Cameron! I mainly play MMORPGs so I think the Keychron M6 lends itself well here and would enable me to use one mouse for both work and play.
Hard plastic is infinitely more serviceable and easy to clean than Logitech soft touch rubber surface. Try looking up photos of white MX master after 2 years of use. Classic issue with reviewing out of the box products without considering weeks, months and years of use.
Good review, I'd add 2 other considerations. At this price point, the Logitech MX Master 3S not having onboard memory is a massive oversight. I cannot install their software on locked-down work computers and lose out on a lot of capabilities. It's a dream to use on my home setup - specially for Final Cut Pro, Fusion 360 and other applications in the design space which can be individually customized, something that the competitor cannot. I would obviously never consider these for gaming.
One comment - I cannot agree fully with your comment on that M6 is not gaming mouse. In fact it has some features that are associated with such type of mices - 2.4ghz and wired connectivity and 1kkz or 4kz polling (there 2 versions). So it can be more versatile than MXMs - I belive that Logitech doesn't want to have internal competition between various segments. If you want to game buy our G-series mouse or one of our gamepads. As I am gonna work more from office than at home I started to consider M6 as a great option. My MxM 2s will go to my office and M6 will be great for some home stuff. There is also one feature that prevented me from buying gaming mouse from Logi - They don't have switch between different PCs/systems. I like having my mouse supporting my PC with Linux and Windows on dual boot and business Macbook. M6 covers that as well.
I'm wondering how stable/reliable the bluetooth connection is on the Keychron mouse. Because with Keychron keyboards, they are known to have very poor reliability with their bluetooth, especially in comparison to Logitech which are known to have the best and most reliable bluetooth connections in the business.
Good question. I never ran into an issue with bluetooth connectivity when testing the M6. I also reviewed Keychron's smaller M4 mouse and didn't have any issues with bluetooth on that one either. But definitely agree that they don't have the best reputation when it comes to reliable bluetooth.
Never had issues with my K8 keyboard, some bemoan the wake up being slow but honestly it's not that bad. The bluetooth has always been brilliant and with this mouse I've not noticed there is a sleep function even though there is; it's just that quick. You can also use it with the dongle which allows for faster polling rates. They give two different dongles as well and the amount of extras it comes with is really nice.
I got 2 keyboards from Keychron. THe first one was low-profile and it got its issues as you said. There were problems with bluetooth and infamous clicking registering. So it could give you multiple or none letters after 1 click. After that I gave them another chance with K2 and it's great. Looks great, feels great, works great.
No wonder why we are not seeing any MX4 coming anytime soon, cannot get much better.
I am using my MX3 for many years which I upgraded with silent switches from Keith and it still rocks.
For the touching coat issue, I also had the issue. I have tried many stuff to clean it, but ended up with using just warm water. That still work to today.
I love my mx master 3s, but the soft touch coating is garbage. It will decay and is just a matter of time. I love functioqnlity and quick scroll, but would much rather have hard plastic
That rubber coating is the whole reason I opened this video. It’s gross.
Indeed. I loved my mx master 3s, but it turned to garbage after 2 years of use because of that awful coating. I don't want to buy it again, so I ordered the Keychron one.
Agree. Owned the original MX Master and went to the Master 3 back in 2021. Love the mouse in general but that rubber coating degrades and the mouse looks shoddy after a couple of years - and I keep my hands pretty clean. Really hope they just go to a high quality matte plastic for the Master 4.
@@MarshallFlores I can pretty much guarantee they wont. I suspect this was intentional planned obsolescence... and based on other rumors about logitech suggesting future peripherals could be "subscription based"... I dont know...
Wild. I've been using 2 MX Master 3 (not S) mice for almost 4 years, daily and the coating is still intact and in excellent condition.
I ordered the MX 3s and used it for a couple of weeks and I just could not get around it 100%. My main issues were that, in Mac, the scrolling is horrible. The smooth scroll is, in my opinion, one of the best Mac features and it is definitely underwhelming how bad the logi options software manages it, specially having that wonderful scroll wheel to work with. My second round of headaches came with the Bluetooth connection, it randomly "disconnected" (quotes because mac reported it was connected) and stopped moving, huge pain in the ass while working. I tried the 2.4ghz adapter and got even worst results, doing some internet digging I discovered it was probably related to the USB A hub I have been using, however, this was the only device presenting problems, so I leaved my ugreen 20 USB hub be. My deal breaker in the end was the deplorable polling rate being a lot more notizable in my devices (both with high refresh rates screens). In mac it is baaad, and I mean, bad to the point that, some applications, report movements missed due the polling rate being so low. I was able to live with that, I mean, if you up the DPI you can mitigate a bit the low polling rate and the scrolling gets a lot better using a 3rd party software (in my case shoutout to MacMouseFix) but in windows it is unusable. Bluetooth in windows is shit, and probably will always be, but man, with the receiver and a 140hz display you can see you mouse jumping around a lot. Don''t even dream to game on that mouse, you will get better results aiming with a trackpad than the logi, don't get me wrong, I know this mouse is not marketed as a gaming mouse, but any 20USD mouse is way above that polling rate and for 100USD that polling rate and the downsides it represents is unjustifiable for me.
The reason I write this is that I feel like the general opinion on reviews and comparisons is a bit unfair for the M6 because I believe this is not considering the real product space the M6 was designed for: Flexibility. That is the reason I got it, is that I could just not forgive the low polling rate of the XM3S, but I liked many of its features, so, the M6 is a great compromise and a great product having this in mind. I agree with the main criticism, the materials quality feels less premium, however, more durable than logi ones. The polling rate makes it feel *chef kiss* for high refresh rate devices. The ergonomics are not as good as logi, but you can have a lot of playroom with the 50 USD you are saving and can get a good wrist rest or something. Is it uncomfortable? Hell no, way more comfortable than my hero 502. I loved the customization on the logitech, but knowing how to use the Keychron software and Mac Mouse Fix you can get a goddam great productivity mouse on mac and windows, specially because you can set different set of macros per system and carry them in the onboard memory. I believe that, for my specific needs, M6 was great. If you are looking for a great productivity, and can overlook the MX3S details, that is your mouse. But the M6 is ready to fill a ver specific space and is filling it great
I appreciate your reviews a lot, Cameron! I mainly play MMORPGs so I think the Keychron M6 lends itself well here and would enable me to use one mouse for both work and play.
The polling rate in M6 is 1000hz in spite of Logitech and it is very important for me.
These videos are great - appreciate the thorough approach to these reviews
Thanks for watching!
What we really need to know is build quality. How long does it last, especially that left click
My left click on the MX master 3s gave out after two years. Looking for a new mouse right now.
@@timoose3960lol all you need to know about top $100 mouse brand in 2025
Hard plastic is infinitely more serviceable and easy to clean than Logitech soft touch rubber surface.
Try looking up photos of white MX master after 2 years of use.
Classic issue with reviewing out of the box products without considering weeks, months and years of use.
Good review, I'd add 2 other considerations. At this price point, the Logitech MX Master 3S not having onboard memory is a massive oversight. I cannot install their software on locked-down work computers and lose out on a lot of capabilities. It's a dream to use on my home setup - specially for Final Cut Pro, Fusion 360 and other applications in the design space which can be individually customized, something that the competitor cannot. I would obviously never consider these for gaming.
It’s high time Logitech should upgrade their polling rate and DPI even if they don’t provide wired connection option and USB A.
One comment - I cannot agree fully with your comment on that M6 is not gaming mouse. In fact it has some features that are associated with such type of mices - 2.4ghz and wired connectivity and 1kkz or 4kz polling (there 2 versions). So it can be more versatile than MXMs - I belive that Logitech doesn't want to have internal competition between various segments. If you want to game buy our G-series mouse or one of our gamepads.
As I am gonna work more from office than at home I started to consider M6 as a great option. My MxM 2s will go to my office and M6 will be great for some home stuff.
There is also one feature that prevented me from buying gaming mouse from Logi - They don't have switch between different PCs/systems. I like having my mouse supporting my PC with Linux and Windows on dual boot and business Macbook. M6 covers that as well.
Please, which deskmat do you use?
I'm wondering how stable/reliable the bluetooth connection is on the Keychron mouse. Because with Keychron keyboards, they are known to have very poor reliability with their bluetooth, especially in comparison to Logitech which are known to have the best and most reliable bluetooth connections in the business.
Good question. I never ran into an issue with bluetooth connectivity when testing the M6. I also reviewed Keychron's smaller M4 mouse and didn't have any issues with bluetooth on that one either. But definitely agree that they don't have the best reputation when it comes to reliable bluetooth.
Never had issues with my K8 keyboard, some bemoan the wake up being slow but honestly it's not that bad. The bluetooth has always been brilliant and with this mouse I've not noticed there is a sleep function even though there is; it's just that quick. You can also use it with the dongle which allows for faster polling rates. They give two different dongles as well and the amount of extras it comes with is really nice.
I got 2 keyboards from Keychron. THe first one was low-profile and it got its issues as you said. There were problems with bluetooth and infamous clicking registering. So it could give you multiple or none letters after 1 click. After that I gave them another chance with K2 and it's great. Looks great, feels great, works great.
Update your BT firmware on the keyboard, it works flawlessly
It wouldn't be a competition if Logitech just up their polling rate.. seriously, how expensive is it to just make it 1000hz
Why do you need it?
Good video, but you should also compare software, Logitech Flow is a very nice feature for power users with multiple PCs
Great suggestion. Adding that to my list for next time, thanks!