When I was younger and I bought Half-Life 2 for PC way back when, I was incredibly upset trying to install it on my computer, only to apparently require internet access to download Steam. Nowhere on the box did it say it required internet access (and believe me, I looked everywhere), but as Steam was a requirement, I couldn't play my game. That was my first bad experience with Steam. Later on I read about it and it seemed like a cheap-ass DRM that holds games back and prevents me from playing how I always loved playing games. Buying and installing them on my computer. But, eventually, I downloaded Steam. I can't remember why, I think it was because I saw a Steam sale or something and wanted a game. I still kinda think Steam's offline mode is a little annoying, but the benefits of Steam far outweighs the cons. Just make sure Steam is on and running and you can go to offline mode and you're good. Even if you're no longer online, just make sure it hasn't been closed. I have over 110 games in my Steam library, I think, now. It's only getting bigger every day. HumbleBundle, Indiegala, BundleStars, G2A and Steam Sales all allow me to get whatever game I want for the best price. I'm done with consoles and their "sales."
Gabe's such a great guy. Knows his customers very well. I would never even consider pirating a Valve game. The Source engine is still going strong, the advancements since HL2 and Vampires Bloodlines are crazy.
I bought 3 games for $15 this summer sale. I also had enough afterwards to buy about 5 sets of trading cards on the market and put myself up to level 11.
after watching this two part series, I can now see why Valve has become one of the top PC developers of all time. WIth the thought process of someone like Gabe Newell, how could any company go wrong? This guy has his thinking straight.
The SEGA Saturn analagy with the PS3. I've been saying that for years. The Saturn COULD do decent 3D, and had powerful hardware at its disposal, but getting results from it was HARD and costly in terms of time. A little like the PS3, eh?
Gabe's not saying the PS3 is bad, he is saying its hard to code for (with 7 sub-processors and one main processor in the cell architecture), but now Valve has a PS3 Team to specifically code for the PS3 (and as it seems, cross-platform) i think we can see some very good things coming out of Valve and the PS3 in the near future.
I listened to this while leveling my Disc Priest in Icecrown. But to Gabe's Credit, I spent most of that time thinking about when I was gonna replay Half Life 2.
My co-worker, the friend of mine, bought newest Wolfenstein and he is unable to play it neither in hi-res nor in low-res with his mid-end 1.4 DualCore. But he plays CS a lot. So what are you talking about? What are you going to proove me? I already have an experience of frequent upgrades for PC in order to play games(Virge, Riva128, Trio3D, GeForce2MX400, how long will it happen?). May be you just need to buy this mid-end PC and start play games on it? Maybe after that you will change your mind.
@Elbottoo you can actually hook a computer up to an HD tv mind you. they did that in school and it's pretty easy to learn how to do. and not really smashed and owned, I'm just enjoying a debate with someone who likes to use owned a lot apparently. and i don't get those errors and I'm patient to wait for the install to go through.
If you want to run a new release on a 360 like Crysis, then the downside is the graphics just aren't going to be as good. The textures will have to be reduced, the geometry will have to be reduced, and the overall activity on the screen will be limited, but there are also many tricks on 360s that you can't do with PCs simply because you are granted much more control over the resources. You can kind of bypass the "OS" of the console and use which ever resources you want.
I hardly could count at least one person who really needs this power as you have described. No one of my friends perform his work at home for purpose other then games, internet surfing, reading books. Those who really work at home use cheap hardware for web programming. mid-class laptop for under 700$ is good enough for home video editing. I still don't know anyone who makes 3d modeling at home. You are right about plug-and-play. It really amazed me. I'm still wondering this simplicity.
@icanfly303 I don't think they'll only port it as they now can code/script correctly, or whatever it was. They now know more about PS3 than they did before.
It's interesting hearing him talk about world of Warcraft before tf2 . It was his grand plan to make something like it with recurring sales. It seems his dream came true with the Mann co store.
Not necessarily. With PCs you have a lot of different hardware, so it can get tricky at times. One of the neat things about consoles is that it's the same console to console. A developer can develop something on his own console and he knows it will work on every other console across the world, so that greatly narrows time spent on optimization and general infrastructure.
3. I used to hook up my PC when it first was based with TV out(NVIDIA Riva 128). It is not convenient to navigate windows through TV. And it is also not convenient to move it from my desk to TV and vice-versa. I even don't want to mention how it is not convenient to play near TV using kb+mouse while laying on the floor.
Wow this is from 2006 and he is talking about the automatic driver updates!This is a pretty awesome semi new feature in steam now(currently only for ati users)
Amazing interview. As a programmer, very insightful for me. What makes World of Warcraft so great is THE CHARACTER. Developing your character, getting achievements, getting gear all in a beautiful shared world with thousands of other people all in real time. And there is the team collaborative concept and guilds. If halflife can become that, it would conquer the world.
@Cili1000XL Also unless you've developed specifically for the PS3 porting it over is more difficult. Lots of people including developers have already discussed this.
No, just PS2 used MIPS processor while CELL has PowerPC main core. Just different opcodes and formats, but also there's different micro OSes not compatible to each other.
> is a bumpier road and needs to be allowed to catch up. it seems to me that if the design of the experience is not understood, the advancements technology allows cant be properly taken advantage of
2. Windows 7 RC will not be available since irs trades launch and I will have to buy it(Usually I don't midn to buy windows since I used to try Red Hat, FreeBSD, Slackware which are honestly a crap in comparison to 1st one). Oh, at least the cost for home distro of win is about 150 USD for Vista and about 200 USD for Win7.
This was interview was taken before the system even came out 5 years ago, a lot can change in 5 years, like learn how to properly and efficiently write new code.. as we see Gabe giving away a free PC version of Portal 2 when you buy it on the PS3.
i can get that. I think there are different facets to a great game, and while tech is DEFINITELY important, i think lately good game design, and the design of the experience (story, immersion, world, etc) are clearly more needed. If i trusted that the majority of game developers were interested in really shaping a great, original, memorable experience - before their desire to make money at any cost- then id be fully with ya on technology. but that aint the case :/
i remember john carmack talking about how when rage came out they had to make deals with microsoft and sony about how they could better utilize the data on the dvd and the hardrive to optimize performance, but for that to happen you had a 30 gig download. i think the problem isn't with the technology of the consoles, but the conditions in which you can use the data set by the company. i mean, aren't pcs today running multi threaded games? thats why consoles will never surpass the pcs flexibility
This is an issue with consoles in general. The newest generation (XB1,PS4,WIIU) each has its own share of problems on the hardware and software side. The PS4 and XB1 specifically have had massive launch problems these past few months, maybe even years if you count Battlefield 4 and before then.
But now there are far less excuses because both PS4 and XB1 are both x86 consoles so the differentiation is only in the graphics API. One only needs only to look at AC Unity to see how lazy and near sighted these companies have gotten, in an age where the core game code can be nearly identical. To rub salt in the wound Sony uses OpenGL on top of its x86 architecture which is clearly limited in comparison to DX12 but it's an open api that thousands of people can dissect and improve for the simple joy of challenge and DX12's core is a guarded IP.
Oh and MAG cant be done on 360 because of its processor, 1) its a very demanding game that the 360s processor cant handle very well 2) the processor needs to be kept at a certain temperature but 360s would overheat. Also either way Epic even stated that they love developing for the ps3 when they made ut3 for it. Like I said before its not hard at all, just something new.
@skinnynerd03 I feel the same and I hope L4D hits PS3 soon. From a marketing standpoint, I feel they would be wise to put L4D 1&2 on the same blu-ray disc and sell it for full retail price like that.
BTW I used to build cheap PCs for under 600 USD. Now I consider these ones as an office-only machines. To play PC games you need to own a high-end one. It is prooved by years of upgrades since 1997.
1. if your not counting the TV, in the price you pay for consoles than you may as well not count the monitor you pay for PC. 2. you can use Windows 7 RC and build your own pc engine for 500$ and still get much more power than a ps3 or 360. 3. you can hook your PC up to a TV using a 5$ wire. 4. games on PC are 10$ cheaper. plus steam savings (LFD 20$, orange box 10$ ETC)
@Elbottoo than your using bad emulators, i can do most ps2 games on my computer with no problems whatsoever, and again id love to see your PS3 work programs like photoshop, blender, source sdk, and run dedicated servers for tf2/counterstrike/l4d2 or any other online fps game, the computer has utility when the ps3 has only one specialty, playing games. i do admit ps3 games graphics quality is better but it does not make gameplay, and it does not run the programs i need to run.
The downside is that if you want to upgrade the graphics on some of your older titles that they have to be released on completely new hardware. However, for a developer, a console isn't that much to buy when you have a 10 million dollar budget. You'll lose more money trying to get your game to work on all this different hardware than just buying one console. However, the point is that it is easier to develop games on consoles (if it's an AAA game and not just indie platformer).
actually here - Sales figures for Steam have not been released by Valve. However, Stardock, the previous owner of competing platform Impulse, estimated that, as of 2009, Steam had a 70% share of the digital distribution market for video games.[67] In early 2011, Forbes reported that Steam sales constituted 50 to 70% of the $4 billion market for downloaded PC games and that Steam offered game producers gross margins of 70% of purchase price, compared with 30% at retail.
1. The TV is not being used only for gaming. You are still able to use it by design - to wat-ch TV programs. And you are not considering the fact that TV is becoming digital nowadays. Look at the store. You will find there almost only HDTV LCD or plasma products. There is less ERT-based ones available.
I understood your point. Indeed it doesn't bother me. You are right. I only wanted you to understand our point of view. It is your choice whether to play PC, console ot whatever you prefer. The rest about games is kind of particular platform services and/or support offered.
i like steam and everything,but i wish they would make a game on the wii,because really,the wii isnt a baby console,nintendo just advertises it for casual audiances,however,there is many good shooters on it like COD and 007
The PS2 was hard to program as well in its time, but everything turned out ok. I will not bash Sony for trying to do something diferent in each generation instead of the same but just bigger. Thats what makes Sony Sony. Sure its risky but they have a pretty big 1st party/2nd party support to make it success and in the end the results are always great for gamers.
@Cili1000XL thats probably why he is making the effort to put more stuff in the ps3 version of portal 2, lets hope he also makes it awesome for pc i want mah pc xd
same goes for heavy rain, name me another game that has a VERY deep story not about violence, but about love, and guilt. About a very sad story, a game that has 4 main characters, each fates you can control and each action has a consequence. Each action changes the ending. IT can be sad, or happy based on what you do. Many choices difficult ones, implying the quote how far will you go to save someone you love that is used allot when talking about the game. In fact thats the main question.
you don't need a high end Pc to play games you can use a mid-end one. Include the monitor in the price of a console and the price is almost the same. If you CHOOSE not to include the TV than you may as well not include the monitor. And you can build a 550$ mid-level Pc. and max out most games (with vista)
The only thing different is the coding process for the systems, there is no piece of hardware or software in the PS3 that pushes it ahead of the 360. Saw a Killzone 2 article stating that it can't be done on 360, BUT the people claiming it was not only the people who worked at Sony but the people who developed the game. The only reason given where that it had Blu-ray and Six-axis wtf, and said that it was important for THEIR needs, Killzone 2 is more then possible on another system.
Hmm. Ok. Let me see. I have a dual-core 1.4 GHz laptop with ATI integrated graphics. How can I use it for gaming? HL2, CSS? Bioshock may be? CoD4? I used to try it on such a mid-level PC. Mid-level is about 550USD which is more expensive then PS3 and worse in quality. In order to compare consoles with PC you need to build such a PC which runs all games w/o lags, low fps's. Imagine how expensive it is. I do know that I can buy cheaper GPU and lover resolution and lower effects and etc and etc.
@pnroyal No they don't. It is difficult writing for 7 SPEs and a PPE. You have to break up your work into nuggets of code and individually compile for each of those microprocessors. Then there's the whole issue of optimization. Naughty Dog does not differ on how hard it is to write for the PS3. No one that is human differs.
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Thy majesty GabeN was worried that people wouldn't like steam. Only a God can be this humble.
People absolutely hated Steam for the first few years, especially when HL2 launched.
Nick Shomos True, I hated the guts of Steam. Now it is the source of all my games.
When I was younger and I bought Half-Life 2 for PC way back when, I was incredibly upset trying to install it on my computer, only to apparently require internet access to download Steam.
Nowhere on the box did it say it required internet access (and believe me, I looked everywhere), but as Steam was a requirement, I couldn't play my game.
That was my first bad experience with Steam.
Later on I read about it and it seemed like a cheap-ass DRM that holds games back and prevents me from playing how I always loved playing games. Buying and installing them on my computer.
But, eventually, I downloaded Steam. I can't remember why, I think it was because I saw a Steam sale or something and wanted a game.
I still kinda think Steam's offline mode is a little annoying, but the benefits of Steam far outweighs the cons. Just make sure Steam is on and running and you can go to offline mode and you're good. Even if you're no longer online, just make sure it hasn't been closed.
I have over 110 games in my Steam library, I think, now. It's only getting bigger every day.
HumbleBundle, Indiegala, BundleStars, G2A and Steam Sales all allow me to get whatever game I want for the best price. I'm done with consoles and their "sales."
LunarD3A7H Amen brother
The only thing I do not like is that there are more programs you have to install now for some games like Uplay.
STEAM IS THE FUTURE
100 milion active users agree lord gaben.
10 million actualy..(thats active users).
Y U NO LAUGH??
10 million ONLINE AT THE SAME TIME. If I launch Steam once a week only to play Skyrim that doesn't mean i'm not an active user.
Game James What about those phishing bots?
+TheNeXusCore9032 Bots are people too!
@Bold One consoles are cheaper and more socially acceptable/ more accessible than pc’s
For the people that didnt know: Longhorn was the codename for windows vista.
this is before he developed his fear of the number 3
LOLLLL
The uploader needs to find the meaning of "trash talking" and rename the video when they realize they have no idea what "trash talking" is.
Gabe's such a great guy. Knows his customers very well. I would never even consider pirating a Valve game.
The Source engine is still going strong, the advancements since HL2 and Vampires Bloodlines are crazy.
At first I hated Steam,but its just so damn useful for updating and stuff. Also,weekend madness and summersale. :-)
I bought 3 games for $15 this summer sale. I also had enough afterwards to buy about 5 sets of trading cards on the market and put myself up to level 11.
Steam cloud, as well. A handy feature if ever I saw one.
For context, Windows Longhorn is the codename for Vista. They were talking about Windows Vista at 1:00.
after watching this two part series, I can now see why Valve has become one of the top PC developers of all time. WIth the thought process of someone like Gabe Newell, how could any company go wrong? This guy has his thinking straight.
The SEGA Saturn analagy with the PS3. I've been saying that for years. The Saturn COULD do decent 3D, and had powerful hardware at its disposal, but getting results from it was HARD and costly in terms of time.
A little like the PS3, eh?
3:06 here were gaben talks about cell/ps3
When Gabe Newell is talking everybody should listen.
No Part 3? This is bad...
+TheForgery And you've got 3 likes, too. Lololol
On the bright side, there won't be an XBOX Three. Hehehehehe Avion A'ris
+TheForgery Gabe never does 3.
Valentin Rafael
For sure.
My entire opinion of this man has changed. An incredibly versed man, quite deserving to where he currently is.
Dude can't count to 3. How does He get to say Playststion 3.
hurhurhurhurhurhur hilarious
He can say three, but not count from one to it.
0:43 jesus christ what a throwback!
Gabe's not saying the PS3 is bad, he is saying its hard to code for (with 7 sub-processors and one main processor in the cell architecture), but now Valve has a PS3 Team to specifically code for the PS3 (and as it seems, cross-platform) i think we can see some very good things coming out of Valve and the PS3 in the near future.
also, what prototype demo? there never was a demo released for the game.
He has *spoken*
I listened to this while leveling my Disc Priest in Icecrown. But to Gabe's Credit, I spent most of that time thinking about when I was gonna replay Half Life 2.
I love how he talk about windows vista too (windows longhorn)
My co-worker, the friend of mine, bought newest Wolfenstein and he is unable to play it neither in hi-res nor in low-res with his mid-end 1.4 DualCore. But he plays CS a lot. So what are you talking about? What are you going to proove me? I already have an experience of frequent upgrades for PC in order to play games(Virge, Riva128, Trio3D, GeForce2MX400, how long will it happen?). May be you just need to buy this mid-end PC and start play games on it? Maybe after that you will change your mind.
@Elbottoo you can actually hook a computer up to an HD tv mind you. they did that in school and it's pretty easy to learn how to do. and not really smashed and owned, I'm just enjoying a debate with someone who likes to use owned a lot apparently. and i don't get those errors and I'm patient to wait for the install to go through.
If you want to run a new release on a 360 like Crysis, then the downside is the graphics just aren't going to be as good. The textures will have to be reduced, the geometry will have to be reduced, and the overall activity on the screen will be limited, but there are also many tricks on 360s that you can't do with PCs simply because you are granted much more control over the resources. You can kind of bypass the "OS" of the console and use which ever resources you want.
I hardly could count at least one person who really needs this power as you have described. No one of my friends perform his work at home for purpose other then games, internet surfing, reading books. Those who really work at home use cheap hardware for web programming. mid-class laptop for under 700$ is good enough for home video editing. I still don't know anyone who makes 3d modeling at home. You are right about plug-and-play. It really amazed me. I'm still wondering this simplicity.
6:17 is he talking about sega saturn? why was that one a problem?
@icanfly303 I don't think they'll only port it as they now can code/script correctly, or whatever it was. They now know more about PS3 than they did before.
It's interesting hearing him talk about world of Warcraft before tf2 . It was his grand plan to make something like it with recurring sales. It seems his dream came true with the Mann co store.
Not necessarily. With PCs you have a lot of different hardware, so it can get tricky at times. One of the neat things about consoles is that it's the same console to console. A developer can develop something on his own console and he knows it will work on every other console across the world, so that greatly narrows time spent on optimization and general infrastructure.
3. I used to hook up my PC when it first was based with TV out(NVIDIA Riva 128). It is not convenient to navigate windows through TV. And it is also not convenient to move it from my desk to TV and vice-versa. I even don't want to mention how it is not convenient to play near TV using kb+mouse while laying on the floor.
you can use a lamptop as a monitor. and connect it to your TV using a gamepad, and an s-video.
Wow this is from 2006 and he is talking about the automatic driver updates!This is a pretty awesome semi new feature in steam now(currently only for ati users)
true! the longer we wait. the better the quality!
@hadeys1 im a ps3 owner but i got lfd on pc so....you lose? i win?
what is longhorn?
Amazing interview. As a programmer, very insightful for me. What makes World of Warcraft so great is THE CHARACTER. Developing your character, getting achievements, getting gear all in a beautiful shared world with thousands of other people all in real time. And there is the team collaborative concept and guilds. If halflife can become that, it would conquer the world.
Getting gear and having a paper doll character, maybe that's why they added a lot of cosmetics and unlockable weapons to TF2 over time
@Cili1000XL Also unless you've developed specifically for the PS3 porting it over is more difficult. Lots of people including developers have already discussed this.
@jpandaaron He said that four years ago. How many people had quad cores four years ago? Source has been multithreaded for a couple years now.
0:47 For a second I thought he was gonna go full Jackie Gleason on us... hamana hamana hamana
No, just PS2 used MIPS processor while CELL has PowerPC main core. Just different opcodes and formats, but also there's different micro OSes not compatible to each other.
@Cili1000XL Orange box is also on ps3.
Yay, we do have display driver update!
> is a bumpier road and needs to be allowed to catch up. it seems to me that if the design of the experience is not understood, the advancements technology allows cant be properly taken advantage of
Totally agree. PCs also multicored. So isn't it hard to code for PC? It also requires multithreading skills.
Watch the first part. He does talk about it.
2. Windows 7 RC will not be available since irs trades launch and I will have to buy it(Usually I don't midn to buy windows since I used to try Red Hat, FreeBSD, Slackware which are honestly a crap in comparison to 1st one). Oh, at least the cost for home distro of win is about 150 USD for Vista and about 200 USD for Win7.
This was interview was taken before the system even came out 5 years ago, a lot can change in 5 years, like learn how to properly and efficiently write new code.. as we see Gabe giving away a free PC version of Portal 2 when you buy it on the PS3.
i can get that. I think there are different facets to a great game, and while tech is DEFINITELY important, i think lately good game design, and the design of the experience (story, immersion, world, etc) are clearly more needed.
If i trusted that the majority of game developers were interested in really shaping a great, original, memorable experience - before their desire to make money at any cost- then id be fully with ya on technology. but that aint the case :/
Man, Gabe is a very intelligent guy.
episode 3 pleasessssssss :'(
@Shinzu92 portal 2 appears to and numerous previously released games have as well.
of course it is, how many times have u played a game thats been developed on an xbox?
i remember john carmack talking about how when rage came out they had to make deals with microsoft and sony about how they could better utilize the data on the dvd and the hardrive to optimize performance, but for that to happen you had a 30 gig download. i think the problem isn't with the technology of the consoles, but the conditions in which you can use the data set by the company. i mean, aren't pcs today running multi threaded games? thats why consoles will never surpass the pcs flexibility
@JSGfilms Microsoft doesn't make PCs only the OS.
This is an issue with consoles in general. The newest generation (XB1,PS4,WIIU) each has its own share of problems on the hardware and software side. The PS4 and XB1 specifically have had massive launch problems these past few months, maybe even years if you count Battlefield 4 and before then.
But now there are far less excuses because both PS4 and XB1 are both x86 consoles so the differentiation is only in the graphics API. One only needs only to look at AC Unity to see how lazy and near sighted these companies have gotten, in an age where the core game code can be nearly identical. To rub salt in the wound Sony uses OpenGL on top of its x86 architecture which is clearly limited in comparison to DX12 but it's an open api that thousands of people can dissect and improve for the simple joy of challenge and DX12's core is a guarded IP.
I do agree that there are some advantages,the mouse and keyboard simply allows a gamer to do more. Plus,we're talking pinpoint accuracy via a mouse.
Oh and MAG cant be done on 360 because of its processor, 1) its a very demanding game that the 360s processor cant handle very well 2) the processor needs to be kept at a certain temperature but 360s would overheat. Also either way Epic even stated that they love developing for the ps3 when they made ut3 for it. Like I said before its not hard at all, just something new.
@kahunakao After seeing this interview, I thought so too - then I remembered his release schedule.
@skinnynerd03 I feel the same and I hope L4D hits PS3 soon. From a marketing standpoint, I feel they would be wise to put L4D 1&2 on the same blu-ray disc and sell it for full retail price like that.
BTW I used to build cheap PCs for under 600 USD. Now I consider these ones as an office-only machines. To play PC games you need to own a high-end one. It is prooved by years of upgrades since 1997.
Except for platformers and console games that were ported over to the pc such as Gears of War or Halo
1. if your not counting the TV, in the price you pay for consoles than you may as well not count the monitor you pay for PC.
2. you can use Windows 7 RC and build your own pc engine for 500$ and still get much more power than a ps3 or 360.
3. you can hook your PC up to a TV using a 5$ wire.
4. games on PC are 10$ cheaper. plus steam savings (LFD 20$, orange box 10$ ETC)
@HelderP1337 Agreed. But I'm glad I watched it anyway..
@risseer Didn't you watch E3?? Gabe Newell annonced Portal 2 for PS3 and said it would be the best console version xD
@Burgerboy58 Yea, I'm not a ps3 owner, but I'm still a bit upset about that.
Interesting to hear about the industry, and the thinking behind the scenes...now...WHERE'S HL2:EP3?!
@Elbottoo than your using bad emulators, i can do most ps2 games on my computer with no problems whatsoever, and again id love to see your PS3 work programs like photoshop, blender, source sdk, and run dedicated servers for tf2/counterstrike/l4d2 or any other online fps game, the computer has utility when the ps3 has only one specialty, playing games. i do admit ps3 games graphics quality is better but it does not make gameplay, and it does not run the programs i need to run.
The downside is that if you want to upgrade the graphics on some of your older titles that they have to be released on completely new hardware. However, for a developer, a console isn't that much to buy when you have a 10 million dollar budget. You'll lose more money trying to get your game to work on all this different hardware than just buying one console. However, the point is that it is easier to develop games on consoles (if it's an AAA game and not just indie platformer).
actually here - Sales figures for Steam have not been released by Valve. However, Stardock, the previous owner of competing platform Impulse, estimated that, as of 2009, Steam had a 70% share of the digital distribution market for video games.[67] In early 2011, Forbes reported that Steam sales constituted 50 to 70% of the $4 billion market for downloaded PC games and that Steam offered game producers gross margins of 70% of purchase price, compared with 30% at retail.
guild wars 1 had only been out for a year or so in 2006
1. The TV is not being used only for gaming. You are still able to use it by design - to wat-ch TV programs. And you are not considering the fact that TV is becoming digital nowadays. Look at the store. You will find there almost only HDTV LCD or plasma products. There is less ERT-based ones available.
@vapour80 Oh I never thought of that. Thanks a lot for the info!
I understood your point. Indeed it doesn't bother me. You are right. I only wanted you to understand our point of view. It is your choice whether to play PC, console ot whatever you prefer. The rest about games is kind of particular platform services and/or support offered.
we need more hats
you can use a 360 gamepad. or in some games a ps3 controller.
PC works great if you have a good graphics card to hook it up you your TV.
@ElijahGreenThumb >Implying they themselves don't have steam
@Jackinleeds01 He did say the PS3 was another Sega Saturn XD
I like how portal 2 is now on ps3 and he said that the ps3 version would be the best version at the 2010 E3.
i like steam and everything,but i wish they would make a game on the wii,because really,the wii isnt a baby console,nintendo just advertises it for casual audiances,however,there is many good shooters on it like COD and 007
The PS2 was hard to program as well in its time, but everything turned out ok. I will not bash Sony for trying to do something diferent in each generation instead of the same but just bigger. Thats what makes Sony Sony. Sure its risky but they have a pretty big 1st party/2nd party support to make it success and in the end the results are always great for gamers.
@HookakidLLC >>November 17, 2006
Well buddy, again like I said.
Last time I went to the computer store to get something decent, they didn't have 15 dollar cases, nor 20$ 2GB sticks.
Press and hold "start" button on PS3 and it will quicksave your game - it works, I've checked it out.
@Cili1000XL thats probably why he is making the effort to put more stuff in the ps3 version of portal 2, lets hope he also makes it awesome for pc i want mah pc xd
@hadeys1 Then why bring up L4D 1&2? A little spite maybe?
@HookakidLLC this was after ps3 was released. that's why hes talking about the ps3
LOL, that think he has on the table near the phone is the same they use in The Rock when in Pentagon.
same goes for heavy rain, name me another game that has a VERY deep story not about violence, but about love, and guilt. About a very sad story, a game that has 4 main characters, each fates you can control and each action has a consequence. Each action changes the ending. IT can be sad, or happy based on what you do. Many choices difficult ones, implying the quote how far will you go to save someone you love that is used allot when talking about the game. In fact thats the main question.
the ps2 was like that and it turn out good.
you don't need a high end Pc to play games you can use a mid-end one.
Include the monitor in the price of a console and the price is almost the same. If you CHOOSE not to include the TV than you may as well not include the monitor. And you can build a 550$ mid-level Pc. and max out most games (with vista)
The only thing different is the coding process for the systems, there is no piece of hardware or software in the PS3 that pushes it ahead of the 360.
Saw a Killzone 2 article stating that it can't be done on 360, BUT the people claiming it was not only the people who worked at Sony but the people who developed the game. The only reason given where that it had Blu-ray and Six-axis wtf, and said that it was important for THEIR needs, Killzone 2 is more then possible on another system.
i agree, i think that only shows how advanced the ps3 is,
Can't wait to build a PC.
Hmm. Ok. Let me see. I have a dual-core 1.4 GHz laptop with ATI integrated graphics. How can I use it for gaming? HL2, CSS? Bioshock may be? CoD4? I used to try it on such a mid-level PC. Mid-level is about 550USD which is more expensive then PS3 and worse in quality. In order to compare consoles with PC you need to build such a PC which runs all games w/o lags, low fps's. Imagine how expensive it is. I do know that I can buy cheaper GPU and lover resolution and lower effects and etc and etc.
Ever tried to code mutlithread? It's hard. Yes it can be perfected but it's still hard.
Also Valve is making half-life2 games, Left for dead, team fortress games, Portal games and many other more great games.
I could listen to Gabe talk for hours
@pnroyal
No they don't. It is difficult writing for 7 SPEs and a PPE. You have to break up your work into nuggets of code and individually compile for each of those microprocessors. Then there's the whole issue of optimization.
Naughty Dog does not differ on how hard it is to write for the PS3. No one that is human differs.
Gabe is living legend .
@Olanov Because steam is on PC and steam is theyr main thing anyway!