One feature that I think wasn't mentioned is that with the design of the ZV-1F the placement of the head mount where you could attach a selfie stick or tripod is not in the way of the battery compartment like it is in the ZV-1. It's a small detail, but I think it's important to add.
Wow I didn’t know about that I can’t wait to check it out I rented one from Lensrentals so hopefully I’ll be putting out a couple more videos about the F do you have the zv1?
@@thefilmalliance At the moment I do not own either of the camera’s, I actually was searching up videos to figure out which one to get and am currently still deciding.
I don't look at this as a fail at all, it's intended for vloggers or someone just starting a TH-cam channel that wants to upgrade from a smartphone and use the features like product showcase, background blur, slow mo etc.. It's a lot cheaper then the zv1 so it's a good option for a beginner and getting used to Sony's menu system
Yes Absolutely Dan, thank you so much for the insight. That is a very good point. It's great if you are just starting out and you need to learn about how to use cameras. Do you have the Sony ZV-1F?
I don't know if I represent a large segment of the vlogging community, but neither of these cameras comes close to meeting my needs. I was so disappointed in both of them (as I have been with all cameras that are marketed as vlogging cameras). Simply put, the field of view of the lenses isn't nearly wide enough. I was initially excited to learn that the ZV-1F was going to have a 20mm lens. THAT is just barely wide enough to be usable. However, as you pointed out, turning on the Active Stabilization crops in dramatically to make it a 25mm lens. And that is far too tight for filming yourself while walking around. In any event, the stabilization is not nearly good enough anyway. The video you get from these cameras is jittery and shaky when you hold the camera in front of you and walk around. The only way to get usable video is to mount the camera on a gimbal. And that completely negates the whole point of the camera, which was to be small and light enough to carry around on a selfie-stick. On top of the narrow field of view and the poor stabilization, they made the ridiculous decision to remove phase detection autofocus from the 1F. It has been over a decade since vlogging became a thing, and camera companies still don't realize that a vlogging camera requires a simple and basic set of features: 1) a lens with a wide field of view 2) excellent stabilization 3) excellent autofocus 4) microphone jack 5) relatively small and lightweight And that's pretty much it. Just those five things. And not a single camera company has managed to produce a camera like that yet. They all lack one or two of those key features. Sony seems obsessed with audio. They think vloggers only need better built-in microphones and they ignore all the other features. Yet, if they talked to just one of us, they'd realize that we don't care about the built-in mics. We all use external mics anyway. It doesn't matter how good or bad the built-on mics are. We don't use them. And every time one of these big camera companies releases their newest and greatest "vlogging" camera, all they've done is taken an older camera and REMOVED one of the important vlogging features, such as Sony actually removing phase detection autofocus from the 1F. I don't know why they think that removing an important vlogging feature is the way to make a vlogging camera. But they do it every time. Give me ten minutes over a cup of coffee, and I could give you a list of the essential features a vlogging camera requires. Such a camera would take the industry by storm. But all the major companies have had years and years and years to do it, and none of them have come close. Canon had a chance to get it right with the G7X III. With the G7X III, they finally added a microphone jack. But what did they do? They still insisted on using contrast-detect autofocus, AND they made the autofocus in the Mark 3 significantly worse than in the Mark 2. They completely blew it. And Sony was onto something with the RX100 VII. They were so close to making a good vlogging camera with the RX100 VII. But instead of making that camera better, they reversed course and completely blew it with the EV-1 and now the EV-1F. I don't think Sony or any of the big camera manufacturers understand the vlogging market at all.
one important advantage of the new version is easier handling with a gimbal. With the old one, if you zoom it messes with the gimbal balance! On a different topic, I found myself using the built in ND filter a lot. So now I'm having a second thought about the new version
Question for you, if the camera is on the gimbal and you flip the screen out does it mess up the balancing? I would think that it would but I'm not sure
Really great comparison, thank you! I shoot almost all of my vlogs on the ZV-1 and have been hoping for an update offering the ability for a wider shot. Shame about the lack of ND as I think having one built in is a real must. For me, the flexibility of having the ability to zoom and the ND is better - but here's hoping a ZV-2 is on the cards with something like a 16-70mm lens!
Wow, that's awesome. Thanks for sharing. I actually have a video doing photography with the Zv1. Maybe it will help you with your photography. Also, thank you for all of the encouragement. th-cam.com/video/F4e5USiGZUA/w-d-xo.html
Excellent comparison video. The price point for the ZV-1F is perfect for its target demographic. I just sold my A7iv to get the FX30 because I want my camera(s) to be primarily for film and video. But, if I do choose to get a camera for simple vlogging or TH-cam, I think the ZV-1F is more appropriate. I don't do much photography, so the money you save on the ZV-1F is great. Just as I think the FX-30 is a game changer for filmmakers, the ZV-1F is a huge step towards bringing more people to content creation. Sony is making very smart moves with the FX-30 and ZV-1F. Whereas Canon is shooting themselves in the foot by blocking 3rd party lenses from being a choice for their cameras. Great content, as usual.
don't you find the A7iv better in low light than fx30? I have FX30 now in addition to the R6 and I just don't get what the hoopla is. All the advanced features like top handle/xlr audio/tally lights/no overheating, etc? Quality wise I would assume full frame is better...but I just don't get why people are doing what you did.
I bought the zv1 and got it at a deal & I’m glad I did. This looks nice but nothing making me regret the ZV1. For me, having a built in ND filter + raw is more important than a wider lens. And no zoom? That seems like a deal breaker.
Very conflicted.. but i think I'll keep the zv1. The focal length is very tempting, and the lens not extending as far is too. Don't need the zoom. But usb-c... It's the future. On the other hand the nd, raw, and smaller dimensions make me still likely to choose the og.
I really think this is great for 1st time camera users, problem is that they will experience a steep learning curve and after a few months will want to upgrade. Problem is that they have paid 500$ and now will face an upgrade to a $700-$1200 camera. Not sure if you all agree but curious to hear your thoughts
YES Paul, thank you so much. I totally agree with you on that point. It is really great for 1st timers. It is a great way to understand the art of filmmaking. Thank you for the insight. Do you have the ZV-1F?
@@thefilmalliance Nope have the ZV-1 and see no reason to buy the F. I really believe that companies should stop branding cameras as "vlogging" as most of them disappoint in terms of walking talking heads. In terms of videography features they pack a lot of punch
@@TommyOhmalley the Sony zv 1 is not the best for vlogging but has 24-70 fixed lens and is great for all round video. Sony ZE-10 comes with an interchangeable mount it allows primes and zoom lenses to be mounted. But if you really want to vlog on the go. DJI Pocket 2, DJI Action 1 or GoPro 11 or Insta360 X3 are great alternatives in the price range. I feel for vlogging action cams have won the battle
@@PaulTakesPhotos I appreciate your insight. Thank you. I actually just starting researching the ZV-E10. More affirmation is reassuring. I won’t be on the go much but I will have to consider a GoPro for some of my ideas. Time will tell!
Hmm was thinking about upgrading from zv1 to zv1f but then after watching your review it doesn't really seem like an upgrade especially if I do some photography.
Just pulled the trigger on a ZV1F yesterday. The biggest factors for me turned out to be the 20mm focal length, and the tri pod mount swung me over. I use the shooting grip and being able to access battery and SD card without removing was huge. I had been trying to vlog with my A6400, but even using the kit lens was way too heavy. Hoping the stabilization on this new o e decent, because I kept reaching for the iPhone to shoot video.
It should be mentioned that the ZV-1F has contrast detect only while the ZV-1 has a hybrid system for AF. Since I have a ZV-1 already I probably won't grab a ZV-1F, but it is tempting cause a fixed lens is easier on a gimbal.
Thank you, for mentioning that. That sounds like you got it figured out. I’ll be picking up the FX30 for sure. Yes this camera seems like it would be easier to balance on a gimbal
Yes both cameras would be good for both photography in Vlogging, however I would recommend getting the zV one because then you will have more creative options as you grow in this craft. Have you made a decision on which one you want?
@@thefilmalliance Thank you for your reply. I am considering the Sony - AZV-E10 as well as the Sony - A7 IV. I would like to use the camera for indoor TH-cam product reviews, shopping vlogging, and good quality photography for travel, sightseeing, and nature. With that said, I am entry level, so point and shoot is probably what I should do, but I don't want to sacrifice picture quality. I am willing to dive-in and learn how to customize settings. Which of your videos do you recommend I watch to learn about a camera that suits my needs?
Thank you so much for this review!! I am going to get the ZV-1F because my focus is on interesting verbal or action content rather than looking good and capturing cinematic things. Thanks heaps!! :)
I like this guy.the way he is talking is superb and clear..also want to know which camera ur using for this video and I can’t see any mic.can u explain about ur setup please ❤
Great video! I bought the ZV1 about a year ago and haven't even used it yet because the settings are too overwhelming. Lol! I'm NOT a tech guy and struggle with stuff like that. I wish that there was a course on just how to use the camera.
One of my go-to’s is to just dive into this stuff, figure it out, and then share it with you, so I totally understand that feeling. The settings are hard to deal with. Maybe I could make a course like that:)
Which one would be a better choice for studio beauty content creation? Also which one of these id suitable for studio setups and travel vlogging both? Thank you for great insights.
@thefilmalliance I did, and it's all sooo confusing. I've been doing a lot of research lately. I want to add 2 cameras in my setup. Ideally, one, but I think no one camera would be good for vlogging and sit down beauty content filming. I have finalized Insta360 GO3 for vlogging and Sony ZV-1F for beauty content shoot. I'm yet to hit the 'place an order' button, but I do want to place it by this weekend. I was highly inclined towards buying a Canon Powershot V10 to be honest for the ease of use. I have 0 to negligible knowledge of cameras and I wanted something supremely easy to use. However, after going through so many negative reviews, I've finalized these two. What would you suggest here? Can Pocket3 be used for both vlogging and beauty content creation? I do need the beauty content to be zoomed in and super crisp quality.
Pretty much a downgrade from zv1. I understand the logic of covering all price range but in my case that is a disappointment. Especially because zv1 is hardly more expensive when on sale. Odd. 😅
@@thefilmalliance It could be a great Bcam when price gap between ZV1 and ZV1F will be greater I reckon. And that should happen so wait and see. I find FX30 to be an interesting product but it has the opposite flaw. A bit of an overkill for my specific need and a price I am not ready to pay... yet. So in the meantime I am in technological watch mode thx to your channel!
Thanks for the video! Which camera do you recommend between the Sony ZV1 and the Sony ZV 1F for videos on TH-cam where I play the guitar and for some holiday photos?
This is a very interesting camera. I rarely use my ZV-1, because the 24mm is a little too tight, and I usually use wide shots. The ZV-1F might be a better option, and I wouldn't be surprised if the Ulanzi lens works with this. Unfortunately, the lack of an internal ND filter is something that puts me off from this camera. So, the real question is, what is a better option? Wider shot, or ND filter. Did you mention the battery size?
If you get yourself a gorillapod or even the Sony tripod work if you bend it more away from you. I would keep the ZV-1, because the ZV-1F looks pretty jittery and the nd filter is a must have, because in situations with much light it's always over exposed.
I really love your review. Which one would you recommend for beauty videos beside vlogging? I just purchased the zv1f and I hope didn’t make a mistake? Please help. Thank you 😊
Thats hard to say. It depends on what you’re using them for. I created a camera quiz to help you figure out which camera is best for you Have you taken it yet?
@@thefilmalliance I’m going to check it out now. Thank you so much for the quick response Update: I took the quiz and the answer I got was the DJI Osmo Pocket 3 which I already have. I took a second quiz and it recommended the Sony ZV1 F which is exactly what I purchased. I can’t wait to try it out. I’m super excited 😆
I’ve been conflicted between these 2 cameras and I’m still unsure but this video definitely helped me understand a lot better what similarities and differences they have ❤ thank you for the video!
Great video! I use my ZV-1 for top down shots, but not for vlogging because 24mm isn't wide enough. I'd love to switch to this for the 20mm lens, but digital zoom doesn't look good from what i've seen so far, so I don't think itll be good for top down (I have to zoom a little bit and since the ZV-1f is wider, ill have to zoom more than usual for framing). Do you think the digital zoom looks bad? Can't decide what to do haha
Digital zoom doesn't really look bad unless the OG footage isn't stabilized, or you set the key frames too close or far apart. This results in a zoom that happens to quick or too slow, and looks unnatural. As far as 24 mm goes for a wide angle. I agree with you. I shoot top down whenever I record myself painting, and 24 mm has never given me enough. If I was to mount a camera to my ceiling, it would be wide enough, but that's not practical. I highly suggest looking into the Gopro 11. I know it doesn't have zoom or a flip screen, but you can't beat it for vlogging in a tight space. The only thing that has even come close for me, is using a Samyang 14mm on my full frame Canon 5D. Looks amazing, but hard to set up for a top down view due to weight.
Did you ever switch over from your ZV-1? I’m looking to pick one up specifically for top down shots and can’t find any good reviews for that specific purpose
@@hannahdanana I did end up switching but i'm not sure which of my top down videos were filmed with it so I can't point you to one of my specific videos. unless your top down camera mount is really low and you need the wider lens to fit everything in, i think the ZV-1 is the way to go. I switched because I wanted to also vlog with the ZV1F. I would rather use the ZV1 for top down though. Hope that helps!
Thx you...I think I will stick to the zv1 and if I will buy another camera for my wife..it will be ZV1 white stormtrooper colour...but the zv1 F might help encourage more people to get into TH-cam...so that would be nice due to its lesser price tag...
Thank you for the comparison video! What are your thoughts of using either ZV1's vs Gopro for vlogging? I've been using a mix of both A6500 and Gopro for the time being but wanted to use one for B-Cam.
Awesome comparo! The threaded barrel is great, mic in is a must. But I think this camera would be a bigger hit if it was $75 less, or included the shooting grip commander for the price.
I just wanted these as ZV-1 owner. 1:type-C 2:point-shoot(more wide) 3:change power-button position (always it’s covered by dead-cat) That’s all. It’s too much downgrade points….
I have the zv1 and there aren’t huge comparisons so I Will keep it until they release something better. I also haven’t gotten much use out of into besides testing it out. This was a great video.
Great video for the comparison. I am just doing an impulse by on a camera that I should look good while taking photos and Not use my phone all the time which drains battery and fills up my memory
The zv-1f has a max exposure of 1/4s where as the zv-1 goes to 30. That made the difference for me. Already have the zv-2 but that one is also 1/4 max which is a downgrade from previous model.. I didn't see that before I bought the -2 and was pretty disappointed. It's great for TH-cam filming but wanted to take occasional tripod night shots with the same camera.
The first price indication for the ZV-1F is EURO 649 at Amazon Germany, which is Euro 20 cheaper than the ZV-1. In the USA, the difference seems to be USD 200. What I can't stand on compact cameras are lens caps. The horizontal angle of view for the ZV-1 is 24mm in photo mode, about 27mm for 4k, and about 35mm when using Active Steady Mode. If these values are applied to the 20 mm lens of the ZV-1F, an angle of view of 28 mm in Active Steady Mode can be expected.
Quick question I’m hoping you see this but what would you recommend for someone who has a streetwear clothing brand and wants to take photos and shoot promo videos
Great info, do you think this camera would be good for “how to” videos? I build on a work table and video close up of things I put together. Im looking for a good camera and a mic option as an upgrade to using my iphone. I dont do many headshots, mostly hands working with tools and such. Thanks.
thanks for this review, it's super helpful. How would you compare those 2 Sony cameras to the GH5? GH5s can be had now at a decent price, it's an older camera but vloggers used it for years and swore by it. Thoughts?
I was interested in this “successor” until I heard 20mm prime. With an ILCE I am good using prime lenses, as I can change lenses. The new fully functional touchscreen is nice, but no reason to jump ship from my ZV-1.
Hey mate, when you uploaded the film you made with the Sony zv1, did you use a computer with a special graphics card or did you use a computer with an average low performance graphics card?
Hey! New subscriber here 👋 Thank you for being so detailed about these Sony models. I do have a question regarding audio input, specifically what you described around 8:30 mark; Since there is no available audio interference playback compatibility, I'm thinking of buying a secondary microphone in order to achieve that capability. And perhaps when editing content I can just stack the audio from the external microphone over the visuals. Because as you said, nobody wants to film amazing footage to come home and find out there is no audio whatsoever. I would love a recommendation or perhaps a link to one of your vids that go over that topic if you have any. I am a huge audio head, I do music production at the moment and use the Scarlett 2i2 audio interface with my computer. Would like to have the same, or relatively close, quality as that while filming on the ZV-1F whether it is the attachable Sony boom mic or a stand alone microphone. To summarize, I want to hear the audio as I am filming. Thank you!!
I got really sad an hour ago when I got an email the next version is out and I still don't have any content live that I made with my ZV-1.. Happy to know it's not an upgrade. I still need a DJI mic or something tho..
Why Sony removed from this new model the effective stabilization of the Zv-1 and why it removed phase detection, opting only for contrast detection, and finally, why Sony betting on a 20mm fixed lens, got worse your aperture, from f/1.8 that the Zv-1 had to f/2 this Zv-1 F ? Why didn't they set it to an aperture of f/1.4 since it's now a fixed focal length?
About to purchase a Sony camera for TH-cam content creation mainly. For outdoor shots I'll just use the iPhone 13 Pro Max which is good and have it paired with the DJI OM5. For indoor I'm looking at the ZV-1 and the ZV-E10. From reading the responses by people here I don't think the ZV-1F will be an option. I will be spending most time shooting videos in a 3x4 room and a wide angle camera would be the best. When it comes to price I'm looking more towards depreciation than purchasing price. So I intend to use the camera for let's say 2-3 years and calculate the monthly price then. If I can cover those monthly costs from the content I create the investment is worth it. I like to be ready from day 1 for a period of a few years. Would the ZV-E10 be the better way to go in this case?
I can always count on you! You help me so much❤️ when I buy myself a new camera 📸 I want to make video’s just as good as yours 🤩😇 YOU ARE AWSOME 🙏 never change
Going for the zv-1 or zv-e10 (depending of the price in my country, they have fluctuated a lot recently) reason being: I wanna be able to use the hot mount, want to a abel to zoom without digital zoom and bc I’ve seen so reviews where the auto focus is not as perfect on the new zv-1f.
OK so I have some issues with this camera. I got mine and did some test, and for me, it just is not good enough. I use my iPhone 13 Pro and the quality is much better, it's easier to use and the grading I am doing works fine. I would say for a beginning vlogger this might work but I would be very careful under what conditions you use it. There are better choices out there. Just my take on this camera.
Thank you so much for your insight. I completely understand what you are saying. I think that it would work for a vlogger, like you said but you definitely have to be careful under certain conditions. Thank you. Did you return yours?
@@thefilmalliance Yes I did return it. The vlogging I am doing is static and more point and shoot type vlogging...of me working on a project from one angle or another with NO movement, so my iPhone woks excellent for that. and the quality is fine for what I am doing.
That's awesome. The zv1f is definitely a great camera and you will not regret your decision. Thanks for this comment. Are there any Zv1f video suggestions that you have?
@@thefilmalliance I have appreciated your video blogging on the Zv-1 and have used that camera on occasion in shooting a wide variety of non-blogging projects. I think Sony's 1" Exmor RS sensor and BIONZ X processor are amazing in all the important ways. I own a full line of Sony cameras that use this sensor/processor combo: RX0M2; ZV-1; X700; NX80; Z90; and I just ordered the ZV-1F based on your review. One of the great things about this line is they all match very well in color when using multiple cameras. In addition they all have low noise even at moderate ISOs up to 4000, sharp lenses, low power, small size/light weight; similar Picture Profiles; and the same highly efficient XAVC S file format, except the Z90 which includes 24-bit audio. With a camera family that big I can always find the right combo of lenses and features to meet my needs and know color matching with be a breeze. The only area that Sony hasn't address yet is 10-bit color, and you can only get 4:2:2 recording, in camera, on the Z90. The ZV-1F introduced the widest lens yet at 20mm (full frame equivalent) taking the camera family range from 20-348mm.
Am looking at this camera for my TH-cam videos, as I am an Astrophotographer, i have a few very expensive cameras for taking pictures of the deep night sky, but ATM just use a GoPro for my Chanel videos….
Which two cameras would you like to see compared next?
One feature that I think wasn't mentioned is that with the design of the ZV-1F the placement of the head mount where you could attach a selfie stick or tripod is not in the way of the battery compartment like it is in the ZV-1. It's a small detail, but I think it's important to add.
Wow I didn’t know about that I can’t wait to check it out I rented one from Lensrentals so hopefully I’ll be putting out a couple more videos about the F do you have the zv1?
@@thefilmalliance At the moment I do not own either of the camera’s, I actually was searching up videos to figure out which one to get and am currently still deciding.
@@cyreatomu which one did you end up purchasing?
@@g0ddessleslie which one did you end up deciding on
@@cyreatomu same
I don't look at this as a fail at all, it's intended for vloggers or someone just starting a TH-cam channel that wants to upgrade from a smartphone and use the features like product showcase, background blur, slow mo etc.. It's a lot cheaper then the zv1 so it's a good option for a beginner and getting used to Sony's menu system
Yes Absolutely Dan, thank you so much for the insight. That is a very good point. It's great if you are just starting out and you need to learn about how to use cameras. Do you have the Sony ZV-1F?
I don't know if I represent a large segment of the vlogging community, but neither of these cameras comes close to meeting my needs. I was so disappointed in both of them (as I have been with all cameras that are marketed as vlogging cameras).
Simply put, the field of view of the lenses isn't nearly wide enough. I was initially excited to learn that the ZV-1F was going to have a 20mm lens. THAT is just barely wide enough to be usable. However, as you pointed out, turning on the Active Stabilization crops in dramatically to make it a 25mm lens. And that is far too tight for filming yourself while walking around.
In any event, the stabilization is not nearly good enough anyway. The video you get from these cameras is jittery and shaky when you hold the camera in front of you and walk around. The only way to get usable video is to mount the camera on a gimbal. And that completely negates the whole point of the camera, which was to be small and light enough to carry around on a selfie-stick.
On top of the narrow field of view and the poor stabilization, they made the ridiculous decision to remove phase detection autofocus from the 1F.
It has been over a decade since vlogging became a thing, and camera companies still don't realize that a vlogging camera requires a simple and basic set of features:
1) a lens with a wide field of view
2) excellent stabilization
3) excellent autofocus
4) microphone jack
5) relatively small and lightweight
And that's pretty much it. Just those five things. And not a single camera company has managed to produce a camera like that yet. They all lack one or two of those key features.
Sony seems obsessed with audio. They think vloggers only need better built-in microphones and they ignore all the other features. Yet, if they talked to just one of us, they'd realize that we don't care about the built-in mics. We all use external mics anyway. It doesn't matter how good or bad the built-on mics are. We don't use them.
And every time one of these big camera companies releases their newest and greatest "vlogging" camera, all they've done is taken an older camera and REMOVED one of the important vlogging features, such as Sony actually removing phase detection autofocus from the 1F. I don't know why they think that removing an important vlogging feature is the way to make a vlogging camera. But they do it every time.
Give me ten minutes over a cup of coffee, and I could give you a list of the essential features a vlogging camera requires. Such a camera would take the industry by storm. But all the major companies have had years and years and years to do it, and none of them have come close.
Canon had a chance to get it right with the G7X III. With the G7X III, they finally added a microphone jack. But what did they do? They still insisted on using contrast-detect autofocus, AND they made the autofocus in the Mark 3 significantly worse than in the Mark 2. They completely blew it.
And Sony was onto something with the RX100 VII. They were so close to making a good vlogging camera with the RX100 VII. But instead of making that camera better, they reversed course and completely blew it with the EV-1 and now the EV-1F. I don't think Sony or any of the big camera manufacturers understand the vlogging market at all.
Go pro 11 is the best option. Companies do this on purpose. If they make 1 camera that works, they'd stop making money.
So what is your current favorite?
anything that comes close enough?
Just got my zv1 a few days ago and was kind of scared that I might regret getting it now😂 glad I got the zv1 tho, thanks for the review!
one important advantage of the new version is easier handling with a gimbal. With the old one, if you zoom it messes with the gimbal balance! On a different topic, I found myself using the built in ND filter a lot. So now I'm having a second thought about the new version
I think there are some new options on how to put a nd filter on the ZV-1F
Question for you, if the camera is on the gimbal and you flip the screen out does it mess up the balancing?
I would think that it would but I'm not sure
@@johnrsherwood I had a cheap one and it was very sensitive! But depending on the gimbal they can tolerate to some extent
Really great comparison, thank you! I shoot almost all of my vlogs on the ZV-1 and have been hoping for an update offering the ability for a wider shot. Shame about the lack of ND as I think having one built in is a real must. For me, the flexibility of having the ability to zoom and the ND is better - but here's hoping a ZV-2 is on the cards with something like a 16-70mm lens!
Thank you so much for the insight and encouragement. I really appreciate that, Loz.
Why dont buy a ZV E10? All your need is covered!
@@moritz-zee cause kit lens is bad and other lenses cost so much
Which do you prefer?
Very cool, but I think the f/1.8 and the built-in ND will keep me faithful to ZV-1.
I got the Sony zv 1 and ever since I been binge watching all your content for this cam and even considering actually doing some photography 😅
Wow, that's awesome. Thanks for sharing. I actually have a video doing photography with the Zv1. Maybe it will help you with your photography. Also, thank you for all of the encouragement. th-cam.com/video/F4e5USiGZUA/w-d-xo.html
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Excellent comparison video. The price point for the ZV-1F is perfect for its target demographic. I just sold my A7iv to get the FX30 because I want my camera(s) to be primarily for film and video. But, if I do choose to get a camera for simple vlogging or TH-cam, I think the ZV-1F is more appropriate. I don't do much photography, so the money you save on the ZV-1F is great. Just as I think the FX-30 is a game changer for filmmakers, the ZV-1F is a huge step towards bringing more people to content creation. Sony is making very smart moves with the FX-30 and ZV-1F. Whereas Canon is shooting themselves in the foot by blocking 3rd party lenses from being a choice for their cameras. Great content, as usual.
don't you find the A7iv better in low light than fx30? I have FX30 now in addition to the R6 and I just don't get what the hoopla is. All the advanced features like top handle/xlr audio/tally lights/no overheating, etc? Quality wise I would assume full frame is better...but I just don't get why people are doing what you did.
Is the zv1f a good camera for workout videos?
I bought the zv1 and got it at a deal & I’m glad I did. This looks nice but nothing making me regret the ZV1. For me, having a built in ND filter + raw is more important than a wider lens. And no zoom? That seems like a deal breaker.
Very conflicted.. but i think I'll keep the zv1. The focal length is very tempting, and the lens not extending as far is too. Don't need the zoom. But usb-c... It's the future. On the other hand the nd, raw, and smaller dimensions make me still likely to choose the og.
Hey Phil, yes I agree. It is a tough one. They nailed the price which is exactly what they were trying to do
No raw photos no deal. The ZV-1 actually has really good dynamic range.
absolutely, no raw is too bad as current smartphones have this.
Thanks a lot for clearing doubts in my mind! Just got my zv1f from Australia, and now I can use it confidently!
Glad that it helped you. I also appreciate you taking the time to comment and let me know. How are you enjoying your camera so far?
I can't believe you liked the old menu system. It was universally panned, and it was the main reason I didn't keep my ZV1
Hi! Is SONY ZV-1F good for beauty videos?
Nice comparison. Wish they had kept the internal ND and same focus system but so far I’m enjoying the zv1F for vlogging.
I really think this is great for 1st time camera users, problem is that they will experience a steep learning curve and after a few months will want to upgrade. Problem is that they have paid 500$ and now will face an upgrade to a $700-$1200 camera. Not sure if you all agree but curious to hear your thoughts
YES Paul, thank you so much. I totally agree with you on that point. It is really great for 1st timers. It is a great way to understand the art of filmmaking. Thank you for the insight. Do you have the ZV-1F?
@@thefilmalliance Nope have the ZV-1 and see no reason to buy the F. I really believe that companies should stop branding cameras as "vlogging" as most of them disappoint in terms of walking talking heads. In terms of videography features they pack a lot of punch
What Camera do you suggest?
@@TommyOhmalley the Sony zv 1 is not the best for vlogging but has 24-70 fixed lens and is great for all round video. Sony ZE-10 comes with an interchangeable mount it allows primes and zoom lenses to be mounted.
But if you really want to vlog on the go. DJI Pocket 2, DJI Action 1 or GoPro 11 or Insta360 X3 are great alternatives in the price range. I feel for vlogging action cams have won the battle
@@PaulTakesPhotos I appreciate your insight. Thank you. I actually just starting researching the ZV-E10. More affirmation is reassuring. I won’t be on the go much but I will have to consider a GoPro for some of my ideas. Time will tell!
Great to see Sony sent you a new camera model for review!! That means you are under Sony’s radar! Congrats!!!
Im not there yet, hopefully soon though. I just went off of everything I've researched about this new camera. Will you be picking one up?
Hmm was thinking about upgrading from zv1 to zv1f but then after watching your review it doesn't really seem like an upgrade especially if I do some photography.
Thanks for this. Was skeptical about zv1f because I do travel vlogging, but you have given me much to think about.
Thank you, I am glad you are getting value from my videos. What are your thoughts?
Just pulled the trigger on a ZV1F yesterday. The biggest factors for me turned out to be the 20mm focal length, and the tri pod mount swung me over. I use the shooting grip and being able to access battery and SD card without removing was huge. I had been trying to vlog with my A6400, but even using the kit lens was way too heavy. Hoping the stabilization on this new o e decent, because I kept reaching for the iPhone to shoot video.
Your talking head shot is so clean! Great job
It should be mentioned that the ZV-1F has contrast detect only while the ZV-1 has a hybrid system for AF.
Since I have a ZV-1 already I probably won't grab a ZV-1F, but it is tempting cause a fixed lens is easier on a gimbal.
Thank you, for mentioning that. That sounds like you got it figured out. I’ll be picking up the FX30 for sure. Yes this camera seems like it would be easier to balance on a gimbal
Your quality is so good looks like a movie. Great video!
Thank you I really appreciate that
I use the zv1 with an attachment lens at it slaps. plus the built in ND filter.. I think the zv1 still takes the cake.
Oh cool Aaron, thanks for letting me know. Yes, I think the Zv1 def takes the cake.
We are podcaster, mostly setting will be still and on a setup settings sessions. What would you recommend us? Zv1 or zv1f?
ZV-1f
Wonderful review... Does the ZV-1 have a good Active Tracker so it tracks you where you go? thanks.
Thank you. Do you mean focus tracking? If so, then us it does. Hope that helps
Thanks for this! Are these cameras good for both photography and vlogging? Or is it recommended that I purchase two separate cameras?
Yes both cameras would be good for both photography in Vlogging, however I would recommend getting the zV one because then you will have more creative options as you grow in this craft. Have you made a decision on which one you want?
@@thefilmalliance Thank you for your reply. I am considering the Sony - AZV-E10 as well as the Sony - A7 IV. I would like to use the camera for indoor TH-cam product reviews, shopping vlogging, and good quality photography for travel, sightseeing, and nature. With that said, I am entry level, so point and shoot is probably what I should do, but I don't want to sacrifice picture quality. I am willing to dive-in and learn how to customize settings. Which of your videos do you recommend I watch to learn about a camera that suits my needs?
Thank you so much for this review!! I am going to get the ZV-1F because my focus is on interesting verbal or action content rather than looking good and capturing cinematic things. Thanks heaps!! :)
No problem, glad that you know what you are looking for. Please tell what you think about it when you get it.
How is it going?
I liked the zv-1f at a first look, for the pancake lens, but not having raw photo is a deal breaker.
I like this guy.the way he is talking is superb and clear..also want to know which camera ur using for this video and I can’t see any mic.can u explain about ur setup please ❤
Great video! I bought the ZV1 about a year ago and haven't even used it yet because the settings are too overwhelming. Lol! I'm NOT a tech guy and struggle with stuff like that. I wish that there was a course on just how to use the camera.
One of my go-to’s is to just dive into this stuff, figure it out, and then share it with you, so I totally understand that feeling. The settings are hard to deal with. Maybe I could make a course like that:)
@@thefilmalliance a course would be awesome!!
Thank you for your response!
Which one would be a better choice for studio beauty content creation? Also which one of these id suitable for studio setups and travel vlogging both? Thank you for great insights.
Every camera has its different use for different applications. Have you tried taking my camera quiz? This may get you in the right direction.
@thefilmalliance I did, and it's all sooo confusing. I've been doing a lot of research lately. I want to add 2 cameras in my setup. Ideally, one, but I think no one camera would be good for vlogging and sit down beauty content filming. I have finalized Insta360 GO3 for vlogging and Sony ZV-1F for beauty content shoot. I'm yet to hit the 'place an order' button, but I do want to place it by this weekend. I was highly inclined towards buying a Canon Powershot V10 to be honest for the ease of use. I have 0 to negligible knowledge of cameras and I wanted something supremely easy to use. However, after going through so many negative reviews, I've finalized these two. What would you suggest here? Can Pocket3 be used for both vlogging and beauty content creation? I do need the beauty content to be zoomed in and super crisp quality.
Pretty much a downgrade from zv1. I understand the logic of covering all price range but in my case that is a disappointment. Especially because zv1 is hardly more expensive when on sale. Odd. 😅
Hey there, it could act as a great Bcam for your ZV-1. Will you be picking up the FX30?
@@thefilmalliance It could be a great Bcam when price gap between ZV1 and ZV1F will be greater I reckon. And that should happen so wait and see. I find FX30 to be an interesting product but it has the opposite flaw. A bit of an overkill for my specific need and a price I am not ready to pay... yet. So in the meantime I am in technological watch mode thx to your channel!
Great comparison.
In between both of them which you recommend for cooking videos
I would recommend the Zv1, just because it is a better overall camera.
Did you ever buy a camera? If not, then I can sell you my ZV-1 like new at a good price!
Thanks for the video! Which camera do you recommend between the Sony ZV1 and the Sony ZV 1F for videos on TH-cam where I play the guitar and for some holiday photos?
ZV-1 F is my recommendation
Thanks so much!!@@thefilmalliance
Thank you for this video, would you mind telling me what camera did you use for this content ?
Thank you for the comment, I used the A7S3. Which camera of the two do you prefer?
Which one should I buy
Zv1 or zv1f
For my travel vlog
9:13 That's legit the entrance to my house haha What are the chances.
Hey, imma come with beer, cool, cya soon friend!!
I used to watch you with my older brother back in grade school, much love brozki 🖤
Congratulations on a great channel and great videos. You do a very nice job reviewing and comparing.
I was waiting for the upgraded zv1 but sony chose to release a downgrade after 2 years. Just pre ordered the FX30.
Maybe that was their motive. Release a downgraded version of the ZV-1 and force our hand to buy the FX30?
Contemplating the same move. 😂
This is a very interesting camera. I rarely use my ZV-1, because the 24mm is a little too tight, and I usually use wide shots. The ZV-1F might be a better option, and I wouldn't be surprised if the Ulanzi lens works with this. Unfortunately, the lack of an internal ND filter is something that puts me off from this camera. So, the real question is, what is a better option? Wider shot, or ND filter. Did you mention the battery size?
If you get yourself a gorillapod or even the Sony tripod work if you bend it more away from you. I would keep the ZV-1, because the ZV-1F looks pretty jittery and the nd filter is a must have, because in situations with much light it's always over exposed.
I think there are some new options on how to put a nd filter on the ZV-1F
You can buy the ulanzi wide angle for zv1.
I really love your review. Which one would you recommend for beauty videos beside vlogging? I just purchased the zv1f and I hope didn’t make a mistake? Please help. Thank you 😊
Thats hard to say. It depends on what you’re using them for. I created a camera quiz to help you figure out which camera is best for you Have you taken it yet?
@@thefilmalliance I’m going to check it out now. Thank you so much for the quick response
Update: I took the quiz and the answer I got was the DJI Osmo Pocket 3 which I already have. I took a second quiz and it recommended the Sony ZV1 F which is exactly what I purchased. I can’t wait to try it out. I’m super excited 😆
Love to hear that! Sounds like you made the right choice then!
I love my small ZV1 especially for holidays 😍 it is a perfect bts cam for FX6 filming
Thank you for the straight to the point comparison between the 2 camera models. It really helped. Just subscribed. Thanks mate!
Thanks Carmela. Do you have either of these?
What was this video shot on?
This is gonna hit the clearance rack by the holidays
Haha that’s funny, I don’t know, watch it be a hit
@@thefilmalliance maybe maybe
The audio straight out of the camera is probably the best on-board mic I've used. It also works well with my Sony radio mic and lav
I have to agree with you. Which camera did you end up going with?
I’ve been conflicted between these 2 cameras and I’m still unsure but this video definitely helped me understand a lot better what similarities and differences they have ❤ thank you for the video!
Great video! I use my ZV-1 for top down shots, but not for vlogging because 24mm isn't wide enough. I'd love to switch to this for the 20mm lens, but digital zoom doesn't look good from what i've seen so far, so I don't think itll be good for top down (I have to zoom a little bit and since the ZV-1f is wider, ill have to zoom more than usual for framing). Do you think the digital zoom looks bad? Can't decide what to do haha
Digital zoom doesn't really look bad unless the OG footage isn't stabilized, or you set the key frames too close or far apart. This results in a zoom that happens to quick or too slow, and looks unnatural. As far as 24 mm goes for a wide angle. I agree with you. I shoot top down whenever I record myself painting, and 24 mm has never given me enough. If I was to mount a camera to my ceiling, it would be wide enough, but that's not practical. I highly suggest looking into the Gopro 11. I know it doesn't have zoom or a flip screen, but you can't beat it for vlogging in a tight space. The only thing that has even come close for me, is using a Samyang 14mm on my full frame Canon 5D. Looks amazing, but hard to set up for a top down view due to weight.
Did you ever switch over from your ZV-1? I’m looking to pick one up specifically for top down shots and can’t find any good reviews for that specific purpose
@@hannahdanana I did end up switching but i'm not sure which of my top down videos were filmed with it so I can't point you to one of my specific videos.
unless your top down camera mount is really low and you need the wider lens to fit everything in, i think the ZV-1 is the way to go. I switched because I wanted to also vlog with the ZV1F. I would rather use the ZV1 for top down though. Hope that helps!
I have hoped to see a comparison (footage side by side).
thanks for the update. im just bought my zv1 about 4 months. im happy with it. if im upgrade i will go for zv-e10.😍😍
I really appreciate this video
Can you please specify which camera you used for this video recording 🙏
Thx you...I think I will stick to the zv1 and if I will buy another camera for my wife..it will be ZV1 white stormtrooper colour...but the zv1 F might help encourage more people to get into TH-cam...so that would be nice due to its lesser price tag...
I am just planning on using the camera to take photos and not much vlogging. Which camera do you recommend for that?
I like the quiz. Very professional! It says Canon PowerShot G7X Mark III. I have no idea what to choose 🤷
Thank you for the comparison video! What are your thoughts of using either ZV1's vs Gopro for vlogging? I've been using a mix of both A6500 and Gopro for the time being but wanted to use one for B-Cam.
Avoid the GoPro if you want to record for longer, or in warmer environments.
Gopro is great for vlogging. Press and go!
Awesome comparo! The threaded barrel is great, mic in is a must. But I think this camera would be a bigger hit if it was $75 less, or included the shooting grip commander for the price.
@Luke Venus Sony UK site says that the £550.00 price does not include the grip, “…the GP-VPT2BT Shooting Grip…sold separately“ ☹️
I just wanted these as ZV-1 owner.
1:type-C
2:point-shoot(more wide)
3:change power-button position (always it’s covered by dead-cat)
That’s all.
It’s too much downgrade points….
I have the zv1 and there aren’t huge comparisons so I Will keep it until they release something better. I also haven’t gotten much use out of into besides testing it out. This was a great video.
Hey there, thank you for sharing with us. Also thank you for the positive feedback. I really appreciate it.
Great video for the comparison. I am just doing an impulse by on a camera that I should look good while taking photos and Not use my phone all the time which drains battery and fills up my memory
The only thing that ZVF MIGHT be better is the stabilization.
Ulanzi got a fix for width of the lens and macro as Bonus.
So... ZV1.
The ZV1 has better stabilization and better AF
The zv-1f has a max exposure of 1/4s where as the zv-1 goes to 30. That made the difference for me. Already have the zv-2 but that one is also 1/4 max which is a downgrade from previous model.. I didn't see that before I bought the -2 and was pretty disappointed. It's great for TH-cam filming but wanted to take occasional tripod night shots with the same camera.
I have a question are either one of these cameras going for taking pictures? Just because I would probably use it for that more than for videos😅.
Vlogger newbie here, Did you say the ZV-1F may be better for outside? If I want to Pan out?
I'm going for the zv1f because of the price,seam to me the features are better than the zv1f.
for vlogging which one would you prefer for a beginner?
I would recommend the Zv1. It has much better quality than the Zv1f.
Did you ever buy a camera? If not, then I can sell you my ZV-1 like new at a good price!
Sticking with the ZV-1
In your opinion either one of these cameras would work for video recording billiards/ pool practice sessions or matches?
ZV-1 I believe
The first price indication for the ZV-1F is EURO 649 at Amazon Germany, which is Euro 20 cheaper than the ZV-1. In the USA, the difference seems to be USD 200.
What I can't stand on compact cameras are lens caps.
The horizontal angle of view for the ZV-1 is 24mm in photo mode, about 27mm for 4k, and about 35mm when using Active Steady Mode.
If these values are applied to the 20 mm lens of the ZV-1F, an angle of view of 28 mm in Active Steady Mode can be expected.
Quick question I’m hoping you see this but what would you recommend for someone who has a streetwear clothing brand and wants to take photos and shoot promo videos
Great info, do you think this camera would be good for “how to” videos? I build on a work table and video close up of things I put together. Im looking for a good camera and a mic option as an upgrade to using my iphone. I dont do many headshots, mostly hands working with tools and such. Thanks.
thanks for the complete info, I was going crazy to buy the zv-1f but thanks to this video I wait for de zv-1
Which one would be better for long video recordings of painting sessions? Please explain why if possible as well.
It all depends on what you are shooting. Are you a vlogger or just trying to get some cinematic-type Broll with the paintings?
Sony could have worked on a ulanzi type wide angle adapter lens for ZV1....
thanks for this review, it's super helpful. How would you compare those 2 Sony cameras to the GH5? GH5s can be had now at a decent price, it's an older camera but vloggers used it for years and swore by it. Thoughts?
I was interested in this “successor” until I heard 20mm prime. With an ILCE I am good using prime lenses, as I can change lenses.
The new fully functional touchscreen is nice, but no reason to jump ship from my ZV-1.
I'm still very happy with my zv-1 after 2 years. Maybe if I ever get the money I will buy the zv-1f for a 2nd cam. Thanks for the review!
Hey Greg, thats awesome. I'm glad that still you like the Zv1, it is a very well made cam.
So helpful, thank you. And I’ll also be subscribing!
Hey mate, when you uploaded the film you made with the Sony zv1, did you use a computer with a special graphics card or did you use a computer with an average low performance graphics card?
Hey! New subscriber here 👋 Thank you for being so detailed about these Sony models. I do have a question regarding audio input, specifically what you described around 8:30 mark;
Since there is no available audio interference playback compatibility, I'm thinking of buying a secondary microphone in order to achieve that capability. And perhaps when editing content I can just stack the audio from the external microphone over the visuals. Because as you said, nobody wants to film amazing footage to come home and find out there is no audio whatsoever.
I would love a recommendation or perhaps a link to one of your vids that go over that topic if you have any.
I am a huge audio head, I do music production at the moment and use the Scarlett 2i2 audio interface with my computer. Would like to have the same, or relatively close, quality as that while filming on the ZV-1F whether it is the attachable Sony boom mic or a stand alone microphone.
To summarize, I want to hear the audio as I am filming.
Thank you!!
I got really sad an hour ago when I got an email the next version is out and I still don't have any content live that I made with my ZV-1.. Happy to know it's not an upgrade. I still need a DJI mic or something tho..
Yay! I get to keep my (still within return period) White ZV1 that I only paid $650 for! Not being to zoom in is a deal breaker!
What camera did you use for this video?
Why Sony removed from this new model the effective stabilization of the Zv-1 and why it removed phase detection, opting only for contrast detection, and finally, why Sony betting on a 20mm fixed lens, got worse your aperture, from f/1.8 that the Zv-1 had to f/2 this Zv-1 F ? Why didn't they set it to an aperture of f/1.4 since it's now a fixed focal length?
Surprised you did not mention the HFR on the ZV1 that is not on the 1F
About to purchase a Sony camera for TH-cam content creation mainly. For outdoor shots I'll just use the iPhone 13 Pro Max which is good and have it paired with the DJI OM5.
For indoor I'm looking at the ZV-1 and the ZV-E10. From reading the responses by people here I don't think the ZV-1F will be an option. I will be spending most time shooting videos in a 3x4 room and a wide angle camera would be the best.
When it comes to price I'm looking more towards depreciation than purchasing price. So I intend to use the camera for let's say 2-3 years and calculate the monthly price then. If I can cover those monthly costs from the content I create the investment is worth it.
I like to be ready from day 1 for a period of a few years. Would the ZV-E10 be the better way to go in this case?
So I think the first question we have to ask is, what are you primarily shooting?
I can always count on you! You help me so much❤️ when I buy myself a new camera 📸 I want to make video’s just as good as yours 🤩😇 YOU ARE AWSOME 🙏 never change
Thanks Brian, that was super nice of you. Will you be picking one up? and if so, for what? vlogging?
Going for the zv-1 or zv-e10 (depending of the price in my country, they have fluctuated a lot recently) reason being: I wanna be able to use the hot mount, want to a abel to zoom without digital zoom and bc I’ve seen so reviews where the auto focus is not as perfect on the new zv-1f.
Using it mainly for sitdown video’s and some vlogging
Now we just need an upgraded zv1 w/ touch screen menu system. It's 2022 for cryin' out loud!!
Yep, you are absolutely right. 2023 very soon too:)
OK so I have some issues with this camera. I got mine and did some test, and for me, it just is not good enough. I use my iPhone 13 Pro and the quality is much better, it's easier to use and the grading I am doing works fine. I would say for a beginning vlogger this might work but I would be very careful under what conditions you use it. There are better choices out there. Just my take on this camera.
Thank you so much for your insight. I completely understand what you are saying. I think that it would work for a vlogger, like you said but you definitely have to be careful under certain conditions. Thank you. Did you return yours?
@@thefilmalliance Yes I did return it. The vlogging I am doing is static and more point and shoot type vlogging...of me working on a project from one angle or another with NO movement, so my iPhone woks excellent for that. and the quality is fine for what I am doing.
I was anxious that the ZV 1F will be so much better than my ZV1 that i will want to buy it. But no, ZV1 remains the perfect camera for me
I own zv-1, and gopro8, I think I'll change go pro 8 to zv-1f.
@@novikovgarage_SPB will zv 1f give you stability like the GoPro? Or the fact that you can mount it anywhere?
Thanks for this great, informative video. Im a beginner and willstick with my zv-1f. :)
That's awesome. The zv1f is definitely a great camera and you will not regret your decision. Thanks for this comment. Are there any Zv1f video suggestions that you have?
Which of the two cameras did you use to film this video?
hi i just want a camera just for nice photo that’s all when i go out, im not a photographer or a blogger do you recommend the zv-1f?
Would you recommend the zv1f over an iPhone for video?
No. I think the iPhone outdoes the ZV1f
The way I look at it, the ZV-1F is a cheap 20mm lens that happens to record video as well. I will try it in my workflow.
Haha that's so funny. Yes, I agree. What a perfect way to describe it. I should have called this ZV-1 vs 20mm lens that records video
@@thefilmalliance I have appreciated your video blogging on the Zv-1 and have used that camera on occasion in shooting a wide variety of non-blogging projects. I think Sony's 1" Exmor RS sensor and BIONZ X processor are amazing in all the important ways. I own a full line of Sony cameras that use this sensor/processor combo: RX0M2; ZV-1; X700; NX80; Z90; and I just ordered the ZV-1F based on your review. One of the great things about this line is they all match very well in color when using multiple cameras. In addition they all have low noise even at moderate ISOs up to 4000, sharp lenses, low power, small size/light weight; similar Picture Profiles; and the same highly efficient XAVC S file format, except the Z90 which includes 24-bit audio. With a camera family that big I can always find the right combo of lenses and features to meet my needs and know color matching with be a breeze. The only area that Sony hasn't address yet is 10-bit color, and you can only get 4:2:2 recording, in camera, on the Z90. The ZV-1F introduced the widest lens yet at 20mm (full frame equivalent) taking the camera family range from 20-348mm.
Am looking at this camera for my TH-cam videos, as I am an Astrophotographer, i have a few very expensive cameras for taking pictures of the deep night sky, but ATM just use a GoPro for my Chanel videos….
Which camera would you recommend to record your desk? Overhead shot of an iPad?
Well what would the lighting and area situation be?
@@thefilmalliance Elgato lights to the right and left corners of the desk.
Nice info coach. But I’ll stick to the ZV-1 because it does everything I needed to. Plus I read one of The comments saying there is rolling shutter
Hey Tone, yes the ZV1 is perfect for you, I agree