The Batman Zombie Episode!
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- Batman has to cure a Gotham City overrun with Zombies. Can the Dark Knight and Robin the Boy Wonder save their city and their friends? The Batman was an animated series which began in 2004, while not as lauded as it's 1990s counterpart Batman TAS it had it's moments. The episode Strange New World offers a strong showing for the series and a Hugo Strange plot that was initially meant to go to another villain. It's a tale of Bruce Wayne, Zombies, the Bat Embargo and more here on Casually Comics!
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Which superhero would you want with you during the zombie apocalypse?
Wolverine or Superman.
Gotta be an android or robot of some sort. Maybe a Superman robot? He's probably got a couple to spare from the Fortress of Solitude. Anyone biological could be infected.
Superman!
Depends on what kind of zombies you mean.
The easy answer would be Swamp Thing as he's plants based wouldn't pose a chance of infection an would probably be able to sense a pending attack an set up the best defense through his power set creating a wall of thorns or something of the like
This is a great episode, and I'm glad it used Hugo Strange instead of Scarecrow. If it was Scarecrow, you'd immediately expect everything to be a fear toxin induced hallucination - with Strange, it being an actual zombie virus seems entirely plausible and your mind doesn't immediately go to "I bet that gas they dosed Batman and Robin with is making them hallucinate".
Loveee the episode
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I am starting to like the old embargos with this multiverse bs.
sad to see Superman and Lois go. That show was really well done on a tv budget. loved it.
this is going to be embarrassing if WB screws it up again. Not James Gunn, WB executives are the problem. Somehow superman is embargoed, but Batman isn't
Well said.
Yes,a nice twist and not predictable. If Scarecrow was mentioned it would have been to obvious.
I feel like this honestly works better as a Hugo Strange plot. If it’s Scarecrow, odds are everyone who knows the character would immediately figure out the twist, that Batman got dosed with some sort of Fear Toxin. Whereas it being Hugo Strange, a guy who would absolutely make some sort of zombie virus to make others under his control, that twist of him dosing Batman and Robin instead of the whole city works a lot better. And he also would want to trick everyone in the city into thinking there was a zombie apocalypse just to study how they react and their behaviours. So it works on both accounts as a plot for his character and the twist doesn’t become immediately obvious to knowledgable viewers.
You said it better than I could have, thanks ^^
And it is a decent escalation of Strange's activities. He had already featured a number of times in the show. Previously a shadowy figure, a doctor at the asylum who seemed more interested in experimenting on the patients than actually curing them, he’s already been causing problems for Batman from the shadows, up until the season 3 finale where his schemes are revealed. So this is his first episode as an outed villain, thus it’s a more overt scheme, but also plays with the same formula from the previous episodes of manipulation from the shadows. Everyone is still dancing to his tune.
You know what, you got a point. Scarecrow would have made the twist too obvious.
To me Strange's power, is to subtly manipulate good people through words and tools without them realising it. Scarecrow isn't subtle at all with his methods, Batman and Robin would have instantly realised that antidote was actually a hallucinogen. And by playing up his mad-scientist-who-has-already-won-before-the-game-even-started image, Strange is able to trick Batman into doing his dirty work and the audience only expects a bigger sense of catharsis at the end.
It's ironic that despite the Scarecrow being the intended villain, Hugo Strange fits just fine especially when you know his earliest History in the comics.
Would you like to elaborate on this?
@@erikbihari3625hugo made the fear toxin before scarecrow was created
@@mcpics4448. Seriously? Kind of random for him.
@@erikbihari3625 I mean, back in the Golden Age, he was one of many mad scientist villains who had no other gimmicks, and was the first to use fear toxin.
@@High-LordHarza. What does he have nowdays?
"operating on high adrenaline, drugs, and no sleep". That sounds like me in my early 20s.
🎶 "No! Sleep! Til! Gotham!" 🎶
...so did most of the people around you seem like zombies? because now that you mention it, thinking back to my own early 20s...
Zombie Alfred’s hair was so unkempt. That should have been Bruce’s first clue.
Imo, this series has the best adaptation of Hugo Strange. He's smart and manipulative. And while is still obsessed with Batman, he doesn't allow it to get in his way. I also love his design. Really emphasis the fact that unlike others, the threat he poses to Batman isn't really physical, but rather mind games that come from his understanding of Batman's phycology. And this is the series where Penguin and Riddler were competent fighters.
I disagree but that’s simply because Wagner’s Batman vs the monster men left such a strong impression on me.
Both are great adaptations of Hugo Strange.
Also I love that in his first appearance he was voiced by Frank Gorshin, my mind was blown when I read the credits!!!!
As the plot is, Hugo Strange is certainly the better choice. The twist would practically be staring you in the face if it was Scarecrow. It would be absurd that Batman wouldn't consider fear toxin as an element if it were Scarecrow.
If it was the first episode featuring him it could get around that but otherwise yeah scarecrow wouldn't work if it being fear toxin is supposed to be a secret
Yeah it would be arkham knight all over again.
Although Scarecrow’s design was pretty cool, I’m glad this show used Hugo Strange. He needed the spotlight more and the twist works much better.
Especially if you've read his earliest golden age stories
I think The Batman deserves more credit than it gets. If anything it's one of the few Batman adaptations to make a recurring use of Hugo Strange.
The only other ones I can recall that did it are the Arkhamverse and Gotham
Honestly, Batman the brave and the bold is better. So many characters I know from there,iconic story lines, and one creative Michael Jelenic did super mushrooms! ;)
Hugo Strange was really well handled in the show. I loved Frank Gorshin 's performance and it was unfortunate that he passed when the show was still and it was said that he passed away before the show ended. I enjoyed Richard Green's performance as the character when he replaced Frank Gorshin but I did enjoy Frank's performance more.
I feel like Hugo worked best here. Scarecrow would've made the reveal too obvious. OF COURSE it'd be a hallucination. That's his whole thing. Using Hugo worked out for the mystery element
I loved this episode because even I was fooled by Hugo Strange.
When Batman hesitated and told himself what if he didn't have the cure, I was thinking "How can Batman win, then?"
The idea of Zombies being in this universe may or may not be a stretch, but since the Batman has fought Dracula by this point, zombies are pretty likely.
I mean, this is still a Superhero genre show. The Superhero genre basically encompasses a lot of things, there's really no limitation.
While The Batman started as Batman-centric show, like BTAS before it, it also eventually expanded into a larger but unexplored DC Universe when other heroes started guest starring. Again, like DCAU before it.
The last case of the Bat-Embargo taking place in animation was around Beware the Batman’s production, where the crew was originally working on a Batman/Superman show that was canned because WB didn’t want brand confusion with the then-planned Batman v. Superman.
That's tragic. I would've loved to see whatever show was being cooked up instead of what we got
@@nellewoodruff6337 I have mixed feelings on it. It sounds cool to have a World's Finest show, but apparently they described it as "Batman: Gossip Girl" and were going to have Wonder Woman to create a love triangle. I was more interested in their No Man's Land pitch.
@GamerSlyRatchet1 that stillsounds more interesting than Batman v Superman tbh.that movie was such a let down. Should've just made a World's Finest movie.
God, I hate IP embargoes the more and more I hear on them.
This is my favorite version of Dr. Hugo Strange, I love how subtle and manipulative in earlier seasons he is
Agreed, this and the one in Gotham are amazing
My favorite The Batman epiosde. If the villain was Scarecrow I probably would have called the twist right away instead of when robin got "infected."
Yeah and maybe Spellbinder is a stand in for Scarecrow
@@srstriker6420Maybe that'd be a good question to ask.
It might have been better for its use of Strange.
Not 1 to 1, but the zombies are in the same mad science subcategory as the Monster Men and as stated the twist also tracks with his character history.
If it was Scarecrow, the twist might have been too obvious. Did he really make a toxin that turned everyone in Gotham into horrific ghouls or did he just makes a toxin that makes you hallucinate that every person you see in a horrific ghoul?
Everyone's first bet is gonna be the latter.
I agree using Strange was the right call. So that's 3 Good things caused by the Bat Embargo
1. Ethan Bennett created in place of Harvey Dent.
2. Batgirl debuting before Robin.
3. Hugo Strange used instead of Scarecrow for the Zombie Episode.
The only character the Bat Embargo made any actual sense for was Robin, because The Batman's Robin looks like a younger version of Teen Titan's Robin. Where as the versions of the other embargoed characters look completely different from each other, the two Robins genuinely look like there from the same universe and possibly are. I could see some genuine confusion regarding his use.
Exactly. It feels to me like The Batman could work in the same continuity as Teen Titans.
Sasha you and the Watchtower DataBase should collab again to do a deep dive into the Bat Embargo, the history, backlash, legacy and possibly even do a speculation on how things could have played out in both JLU and the Batman if it never existed.
While we are on the subject of zombies - here's an interesting fact I learned not too long ago. Back during the 70's - when the Comics Code Authority began to ever so slightly loosen its bans against horror elements in comics - they still had a ban against zombies. To get around this Marvel instead used the term "zuvembie." Which they took from Robert E. Howard's classic horror story, "Pigeons from Hell."
"Zombie" vs "zuvembie" - obviously two completely different things!
That triggered some old memories of mine. Had to look it up, and yes, they used zuvembie in the Avengers comic with previously dead Wonder Man being a zombie. 😮
Poor alfred?
Imagine all the "told you so!"'s he must have had to endure after calling in the Bat, only to have him and his child soldier coming down in full on Zur-en-arrh mode and going snyderverse on their collective posteriors
FYI...the first ever recurring super villain was Dr. Rodil Mocquino, AKA the Voodoo Master from the Shadow # 97 in 1936, where the Shadow battles Zombies.
I listened to about the first 40 episodes of the shadow radio drama a couple months the ago while working (I drive for a living) man I love the shadow! Such great stories. And wonderful adds for that blue coal that heats your home for a fraction of.the cost!
Another theory ive heard been floating around was that Ra's Al Ghul's intended design for The Batman was reused for Dracula in the Batman vs Dracula movie
I love this episode! It's a really clever take on the classic Hugo Strange story Night of the Monster Men. It's a bummer that they weren't allowed to use Scarecrow in this show, but at least we got this episode and the Spellbinder episode.
The Bat Embargo seems to create more character confusion than it's intended to prevent.
Maybe if Scarecrow had been used the twist wouldn't have been as effective? I mean Scarecrow is known more for mind-affecting gimmicks than mutating his victims. The same could be said for Hugo, but to a lesser extent...especially if (like me) you didn't know he originated the fear powder/fear dust.
I remember loving this episode and I'm glad it got the Casually Comics analytical treatment
Scarecrow is the 1st Culprit when there are Fear context
1:33 The fact that things like the Bat Embargo are still happening 19 years later is so stupid and condescending especially now that the Multiverse is ingrained in the cultural zeitgeist. And alternate versions of different characters outside of comics have been easily distinguishable for decades.
They never connected their cartoons with their movies anyway, so anybody interested in the cartoons would never confuse them with the movie versions. It was always just stupid.
Fun fact sasha, Rino Romano, the guy who played batman in this show, was recently movie mario and luigi's Uncle Tony! Even more funnily enough, terrible trio's episode had Chris Pratt as that bully!
He was also the og dub Tuxedo Mask in Sailor Moon. This show's casting was packing a lot of fire
@@nellewoodruff6337. Didn't know that, but makes sense. Isn't he important still? And thanks for this!
Love the design of this show's Hugo Strange. It totally made me fear a guy who literally seems to spend his entire life eating Pringles in his mother's basement.
I think that fits Cluemaster more lol.
The show's Hugo Strange is a giant.
Jeff Matsuda's art style seems to place a lot of emphasis on realism but in more caricatured capacity!
14:54 I think that if it was scarecrow the episode would have fallen apart instantly because the audience knows from the meta level what scarecrows gimmick is so would have been looking for that twist from the begining
As much as I love the first two seasons of The Batman for how much they stand out from other Batman shows, season 4 might honestly be my favorite season. This one, A Matter of Family, Clayfaces, The Everywhere Man, Riddler's Revenge, Seconds, Artifacts, etc. So many excellent episodes. Just a really great season overall.
True, Season 4 had so many great episodes!
I think it's great to showcase how these paragon characters work when they believe they are doing the right thing, (because drugs, manipulation, bias etc) they are unstoppable.
Im glad the batman has been getting more attention lately. In my opinion while its best stories aren’t as good as btas’ best stories, the batman is the most fun batman series along with brave and the bold
The fact that Superman and Lois is ending because of Superman Legacy gives a tad bit of resentment at the movie, I hope it's worth ending a great show.
S&L had a great run, though
I remember watching this as a kid (Like 3-4 years old), it being terrifying, and then thinking I'd imagined the whole thing years later or confused it with the Dracula movie.
Now I know I wasn't insane.
Nah, you're still insane lol
This and the Spellbinder of this series will be the closest thing to Scarecrow
I wouldn't say so, more like an extremely different but still loyal take(beyond).
This just reminds me of the Batman vs Dracula special features where Batman talks to you about rabies. Good stuff honestly.
The fear toxin works with Strange, but also the "human monster" concept of the Zombie plague as Hugo 😅created monstrosities in his earliest adventures.
While using Hugo Strange was the right call. It is a shame the Scarecrow never appeared not even in the Batman Strikes tie in comics.
I believe on one of the DVD cases it actually says that this is set in the Dark Knight universe, so technically a version what happened in the films did happen in this world.
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp I feel that was more to get people to buy the DVDs since the Nolanverse was popular back then. This cartoon is in no way connected to the Nolanverse, especially since its Joker actually acts like Joker and not Anarky.
@Ability-King-KK Well yeah, but the reason Scarecrow and Ra's didn't appear was because they were appearing in the movies. It kind of lines up. Joker was always going to appear because he's Batman's greatest foe. He's different because the show has it's own style.
@@DavidMartinez-ce3lp The Bat-Embargo also effected the Justice League cartoon, which is why they had to use Batman villains like Copperhead, Blockbuster, and KGBeast. They got lucky into being able to use Joker for a few episodes as Joker's inclusion in JL is similar to Robin's inclusion in The Batman (2004). At the end of the day, though, The Batman (2004) has absolutely no connection to the Nolanverse.
@@Ability-King-KKIs like the Animated Movie which had Deadshot
Love watching this episode around Halloween, such a creepy episode with a brilliant twist!
Genuinely love this episode, solid pacing, great horror and that twist is still pretty smart.
It's sad mad hatter never appeared he's one of my favorites
Never watched this show but your reviews of it have intrigued me. I did start to suspect the twist when you described Alfred as being infected in the Batcave and was confident about my suspicions when Barbera and Dick recoiled from the ‘cure’
Watch it, it's great. Especially the animated movie
I honestly preferred it with Hugo Strange. It goes a long way to establishing him as the big bad of the series, one of the many things that make The Batman feel unique and different from Batman: TAS.
I always wish they would've done a follow-up to this episode showing things from Batgirl's POV. How she figured out what was going on, coordinating with the Police and other emergency services, game planning how to stop Batman, etc. It would've been a good character growing piece for her.
This legit is one of my favourite episode of that show. The twist was brillant yet it's a case where they organically implanted the seeds early on so when you find out about it, it makes *sense* . Clearly a lot of effort went into crafting this plot.
This episode SCARRED me. I was so confused and traumatized but it was fuckin awesome
Do you know what gave me PTSD one of the episodes of Young Justice felt like Blackhawk down spec ops the line miss martian, back in season, one using her powers and basically gave them all Vietnam flashbacks.
I agree. This definitely was one of the best looking back. Also who knew Joker was a great writer?
Whoo! More "The Batman" videos! Also I was wondering if a video about new 52 Superman would be interesting to you Sasha? Whether it's about his missed potential, his possible evolution into a more classic superman, or his relationship with wonder woman is up to you.
Great episode, it’s stuck with me since I first saw it. Thanks for continuing to cover this underrated show Sasha!
I honestly forgot about this episode, and it honestly fits Hugo Strange, because he tries to break Batman mentally all the time, and even if fits Scarecrow, but allows it to be not obvious... Oh yeah, if this was like The Batman Vs Dracula movie's tone... SO MANY deaths would be on Batman's hands
1:58 And the moment he saw that he was wrong, he should have lifted it ASAP. Well he should have realized his rationale held no weight beforehand but still
Arms! Glorious arms! They're back! The framing you used looks perfect, and the mic doesn't obtrude or distract. I haven't seen this series, but I'm here for Dick as Robin (set in an earlier time so he can still grow into Nightwing). Also love the Alfred moment. Joy!
I'm honestly curious on your thoughts on "Artifacts" since it gives a look at the future of The Batman and since nothing contradicts it it seems to imply that it is the canon future of the series.
My favorite geek girl strikes again. Your willingness to dive into obscure lore with enthusiasm and without sarcasm makes everything fun again. Thank you. ❤️
Im so happy you're giving The Batman the attention it deserves, and I hope you cover Gothams Ultimate Criminal Mastermind soon
I totally agree with you.
The Batman was a great series and that episode was always one of my favorites.
I have to say, I love seeing you cover The Batman episodes, it is such an underrated gem! They really made bold choices, and probably gave us one of the best modern Riddler depictions, at least in my opinion.
Would love to see you cover the episode where Joker, Penquin, and Riddler all compete on who is Batman's greatest enemy.
Joker: "Are you stealing my schtick?"
Riddles: "I use riddles. I 'don't' tell jokes."
They had to change Batman's chin because he kept accidentally killing anyone who headbutted him in the jaw.
Frank Gorshin also played the villain of the week in an episode of Wonder Woman called The Deadly Toys.
I didn't know that. You learn something new every day.
One of the coolest plot twists. I love this episode!
The whole Embargo thing confuses me. Did they really think viewers were _that_ stupid?
Well F*** you too, DC.
Still, at least The Batman made it work...
Yes and they still do, that or there'd scared of a little friendly competition.
@@jturner2577 the whole "we're cancelling Superman and Lois to avoid any confusion with James Gunn's Superman movie" thing?
@@uncannydcmarvelous5732That's a perfect example. Honestly I think this decision will turn more people against the movie.
...Once again, f*** you, DC.
Thank you for recommending The Batman. I've been watching it since your first video, and I've been really impressed. The tone shift from Season 2 to Season 3 was quite a big one though! I'm glad that the more serious stories continue, because the first two episodes were giving me major Adam West Batman tones, which is just a very different (often fun) vibe.
It's more like a bridge between the arkham games and b.t.a.s., for true adam west like Batman experience, check brave and the bold. Silly villains and sarcasm galore!
Even as a kid, I thought this role would’ve made more sense for scarecrow. So it’s nice to know my suspicions were justified.
This episode was one of my favorite episodes cause it seemed like no matter what Batman did, he kept failing and nobody knew that Batman failing was the only thing keeping Gotham from being destroyed. That was such a great twist
This is one of my favorite Batman stories ever. It's legitimately scary but still kid friendly enough that it would traumatize kids, it has a great overall narrative, and the twist is fucking superb. This and Arkham City have made Hugo Strange one of my favorite Batman villains and I wish he'd be used in a movie.
Just checked out some of those unused/prototype designs -- Seeing Riddler explains how Cluemaster came about. I can see that episode being written for Riddler and being changed for the embargo... Only for Riddler to appear in Season 2!
Penguin is a VERY different look, and I wish they'd gone with that.
This really was an underrated show.
Us poor little smol brains are always getting so confused. I'm so glad we have caretakers to protect us.
I feel if they did have Scarecrow instead of Hugo Strange, viewers probably would have caught on that Batman was infected and it was just a hallucination. Because it wasn’t a villain know for using hallucinations against Batman, I didn’t think Batman was being tricked but, I did think that he didn’t really think Hugo have him the antidote either.
Don't get the protein pancakes at IHOP. I shit my pants on the drive home.
The white knight part about questioning Batman's work made me think.
He stops the main baddies but they always come back. And he also beats small crooks into fear so they don't do crime. But they still wanna make it big. So for safety out of desperation, they align themselves with the big baddies. Expanding their power and influence and allowing them to commit even bigger daring crimes and chaos.
So by dealing with the small fry, he makes the big bads even bigger as a consequence.
Never seen this episode, but it sounds fun. Zombies are always a fun scenario, and the twist makes it even better. It shows Batman is not always in the right. He does not always know EVERYTHING right away.
I like Sasha's cam view. The mic in the shot works for me. The wider view brings me more into the conversation. Like i am across the table with Sasha.
For Batman and Superman vids I feel like a olde timey styled mic is appropriate to be in the shot, like when they would show radio announcers in movies taking place in the past (like in Dick Tracy), but then that's adding even more audio setting and that would be a tedious nightmare that I wouldn't wish upon anyone
"He's got Bat Stubble, you know its serious"
Yay! Thanks for looking into this episode Sasha, it's definitely my favorite story from The Batman tv show. As someone who only discovered this series in the last couple of months I agree that it is largely underrated in the fandom.
I loved the batwave. I even had it as my text tone for years lol I also really love this episode. I totally didn't see the big twist coming. At least not until the roof top fight. I was genuinely le gasped lol
I think getting a notification on your phone is a lot more realistic than a spotlight.
It would actually be super encouraging for Gordon to know that batman stopped himself in the end.
This is a very interesting take on the zombie plot. It's not entirely original but you can see how the framing device allows for some really good character exploration.
I think this is really cool as a concept, I love a character having to readjust their perspective to see clearly and it’s really fun to see it happen to Bruce. Most of the time he’s presented like the most objective guy in the room and his perfection can push him into being less relatable in some things but when you can show his him slipping up (in a non d-bag way) it’s refreshing
Great episode. An important reminder of why Batman has a no kill rule. At any moment his mind could be augmented and he could be killing innocent people.
Only just finished this show recently and.:that in particular was an enjoyable episode. I didn’t see the twist coming myself without the familiarity to old Strange, but it worked so well.
Sidebar on the Batwave vs Signal..idk if it’s just how my brain processed it, but once the signal got introduced, it felt like the batwave was more the “alert: crime in progress!” And the signal was “Batman, it’s Gordon. We need to talk.”
Hugo Strange was originally going to be the one who interrogates Question but he was never used
Because of the Bat Embargo.
Awesomeness!!! Absolutely love your The Batman deep dives!!!
Yayyyy!!!!🤩🤩🤩
Same here. 😊
Embargo and branding overlap, don't they realize if it exists, people will watch. Even just to hate watch.
Apparently not, even after a slew of high budgeted major multiverse and Elseworlds projects. There still short sighted. Either that or there just selfish cowards afraid of a little friendly competition.
@jturner2577 there's something to be said about the ones behind superhero movies. Using their power to force their view on the world.
Over The Edge had a sad ironic unwitting flaw: Suddenly, the GCPD, which often can't get cats out of trees without Batman, is insanely effective at taking him down, and in a lesser remove, Montoya and Bullock never try to talk the crazed Gordon down - also most of the villains on that talk show had to have outstanding warrants. I also think 'SNW' works somewhat better in that Strange is as known for creating monsters as he is for mind games, while with Scarecrow, you'd know he did a whammy on Bruce's perceptions.
I love this episode, it was well directed and it was like a gotcha twist. Next to BTAS , I love The Batman series too.
Bats being tricked so close to the edge really makes this episode stand out. How many villains can say they tricked him this hard?
I love The Batwave, when Google made Chrome Cast I felt like Batman having all my devices connected to one wireless system.
This is one of my favorite episodes of this show, probably because I was a huge zombie fan as a kid
This version of The Batman 2004 is my 3rd favorite Batman series.
to that first clip, knowing the missing variable, understandable as to why they wouldn't look at it like that
I love that you are covering this series. It is such a great series! Great episode!
I find The Batman show to be quite refreshing on the style of characters. They had a unique and interesting look to them, but still similar enough to the original designs so you could tell them apart, by their designs and behaviour.
Another never reviewed animated film is the Batman vs Dracula. Straight to DVD. It is awesomeness!!!
Loved this episode. Easily in my top 5 for The Batman. The zombie scenario and strange mind games were refreshing twists. This show does the Batman legacy proud... At least until the 5th season lol
This is the episode that made me truly appreciate The Batman as a great series. This series had a lot of great stories, dare I say even has a better more tragic story of Clayface than BTAS.
I love seeing you talk about this series, it is so underrated and is my personal second favorite batman series (we all know what number one is). When I decide that I want to watch The Batman, this is the episode that always drives me to rewatch it, it is my favorite episode from the entire series. Also, Scarecrow is my favorite Batman villain and I would have absolutely LOVED to see him in replace of Strange. I feel like Scarecrow is just absolutely underutilized and is never used to his fullest potential, I would have loved it if they could have used him in this episode, such missed potential, but I love it just the same.
This might be my favorite episode of this show. It's the one I show to people most often. This is also my favorite Batman cartoon followed by Batman Beyond and Brave and the Bold
I remember when I watched this back when it premiered, thinking that the art style really lent itself to the zombie theme.