Thank you for this breakdown, I've been getting into sim racing but find no one really explains cornering as thoroughly as this. I've been loving learning the theory and seeing it in practice. I've also started watching Motorsports so it gives me a greater appreciation too.
I am a beginner to racing game and I looked so many places for racing guide believe me no one explained like this. This is such a great content and knowledge. Thank you for making my racing game experience even more interesting.
These videos are just what I've been looking for. They answer all of the questions I had previously and in a very clear and concise way. Fantastic stuff
Thank you so much, as a beginner in racing sims I had 0 clue other than "slow down for turns". You have improved me by leagues even though I still have a LOT to learn
Excellent video as always. I would have add a graph with the steering wheel input on vertical axis, showing the phases 1 and 6 there is almost no input, 2 the input increases as the car slow down, the exact inverse of phase 5 as the input decrease as the car goes faster. The graph would have shown a Gaussian curve.
Thanks for watching! Check out the rest of the Driver's Uni series including how to trail brake (bit.ly/2PypIMK) Find out your driver level by taking our scorecard test: bit.ly/2LmYNBA
Just coming back for performance driving school. Your video is a very nice summary of what we were trying to learn the entire day! I wish I watched it before the school!
Amazing information, thank you Driver61. I have found that this to be slightly different in a front wheel drive though especially with regards to the trail braking time(Almost none but this is largely chassis dependent) and the phase when the accelerator starts being applied. I have submitted footage for review & it would be great to get your point of view especially in a tight "Spec" series with no LSD. Thanks again for your content, I am studying it in detail.
More traction = more speed - just looking and carring for traction in high speed! but, (by irony if you have everything under control you dont go fast enought (M.Adretti))
i think my trail braking is what's letting me down. thanks for the videos, i just got my first wheel and assetto corsa is kicking my ass, but the s🅱️in is already not as prevalent as 3 days ago, and at least consistency is already much improved
Hey man. Love these and totally sharing them. My pet peeve here is the diagram and explanation of Phase 1 pedal work. The graph indicates immediate 100% brake pressure, you even SAY lifting off ...and go to the illustration which shows 100% brake pressure as a square wave. which would mean stabbing the brakes. The braking force should be shown to be ramped up ALSO like in your later video about braking (you do explain it there). But this video by itself ILLUSTRATES stabbing of the brakes .....
Hi, yes, fair point - the diagram is probably a little simplistic. When I eventually revisit these we'll have it changed. Thanks for the feedback. Cheers, Scott.
wow this is some great stuff! exactly what i was looking for thanks mate. keep up the good work! Maybe make a video specifically on weight transfer in a kart that would be interesting but anyway you've already made lots of very usefull videos :)
Driver61, the part I struggle with the most is the downshift and braking phase how to get it smooth? Are you coming down the gears and heal toe downshift? (This sometimes slightly upsets the car and hard to maintain consistent brake pressure) Or are you just selecting the gear you want for the corner before the trail braking phase and releasing the clutch slowly? Or is it a rev match blip quickly after the braking phase before turn in?
Thank you very much for your videos. I have a question - what are the implications for fwd racing cars? I am currently racing a BTCC FWD Avensis on a simulator and see that the fastest guys are keeping 20% throttle through phase 2 and 3. Thank you in advance.
Georgi Nedev Phases 2 and 3 are the entry phases and transition, where there is overlap of braking and cornering i.e. trail braking. During phase 2 they are keeping a small amount of throttle on to shift effective brake bias to the rear by using engine drive torque to reduce the effective front brake torque. This sharpens corner entry by reducing understeer and eventually induces some oversteer. At phase 3 the brakes are off but throttle is still partly on because on a FWD car normally understeers under throttle, but in this case throttle is needed to balance the oversteering car.
the question is should we always brake 100% everytime & depend on the corner its either short or long braking. or depend on type of corner you dont need 100% braking everytime?
Hey , thank you! Is this gradually breaking and accelerating also apllyable for outdoor petrol karts with a max. Speed of 70 km/h?. My weight is 101 kg and im 6'4 foot
I was wondering, do you change gear (up or down) during cornering? If you do, does it change the load and therefore grip, stability at all? Also, does this apply to all types of car?
Yo great video man easy to understand and good formatting and presentation. Apologies for braking the 0 dislikes track record. Had to do it cuz of my OCD!
I imagine the torque of the electric engine was way too much and so once the car is straightened you accelerate otherwise youre likely to spin it coming out of the corner.
It would be so interesting if you could break down the line and brake/ accel trace of famous corners in the world.... in GT or road cars. Basically, more of you talking 😅
You don’t know what the heck your talking about. Haha. I’ll down shift wherever the hell I want and Dale sr still wont get close enough to spin me. Nah you get it. In short when one feels he’s on it he/she probably. That is if they understand getting on and they a driver cause they don’t like to be beat. Real talk especially when it comes to a formula 1 car. Just like playing an intense awesome piece of music on guitar. You zip through it do this do that with timing and rhythm both crucial for the preformce
My six phases of a corner:
Surprise
Confusion
Anger
Braking
Collision
Sadness
😂😂
No improvement might mean hand over the keys...🙄😁
Hilarious lol I may share some of the phases guess why I WAS watching this video
This is like a love child between racing and Engineering Explained! I love it
Racing is but the practical side engineering id think.
@@maydaygaming3953 theres a practical engineering channel too lol
Thank you for this breakdown, I've been getting into sim racing but find no one really explains cornering as thoroughly as this. I've been loving learning the theory and seeing it in practice.
I've also started watching Motorsports so it gives me a greater appreciation too.
I am a beginner to racing game and I looked so many places for racing guide believe me no one explained like this.
This is such a great content and knowledge.
Thank you for making my racing game experience even more interesting.
I mean the only reason you would be here i guess is if you racing in real life or in a game .
These videos are just what I've been looking for. They answer all of the questions I had previously and in a very clear and concise way. Fantastic stuff
Thanks for the great feedback, please subscribe. Cheers, Scott.
Street Racers UK This is brilliant! ! I want to get down our Go-kart circuit right now. Bye!!!!
The lesson is fabulous! My time for silver stone improved for 4 seconds straight away!!!! Big thanks
Key to the video: spinning isn't winning! Good video mate
this is excellent, just what I needed to know as a beginner. Now I have something to practice, along with left foot braking
Thank you so much, as a beginner in racing sims I had 0 clue other than "slow down for turns". You have improved me by leagues even though I still have a LOT to learn
Fabulous video. As a driver just getting into karting this was invaluable. I wish there were more videos in this series.
I wish I found these videos before I picked up so many bad habits in sim racing. Nice work
Excellent video as always. I would have add a graph with the steering wheel input on vertical axis, showing the phases 1 and 6 there is almost no input, 2 the input increases as the car slow down, the exact inverse of phase 5 as the input decrease as the car goes faster. The graph would have shown a Gaussian curve.
Thanks for watching! Check out the rest of the Driver's Uni series including how to trail brake (bit.ly/2PypIMK)
Find out your driver level by taking our scorecard test: bit.ly/2LmYNBA
hey Driver61!
thanks for your amazing material.
the link of "how to trail brake" is broken... could you please send it again?
thanks!
Just coming back for performance driving school. Your video is a very nice summary of what we were trying to learn the entire day! I wish I watched it before the school!
I've watched this video at least 6 times. And I'm learning every single time
This whole channel is incredible, thanks so much!
Great series!!! You mention cheat sheets, where can these be found??? I looked all over your site.
5:56... ME!!... hahaha.. Thank you for taking the time to make all of these tutorials, I really appreciate it.
Best content I have seen so far on the subject, keep up the good work...
A very clear and concise explanation - fantastic content.
These videos are amazing! thank you for sharing your knowledge, now off to the track!
Amazing information, thank you Driver61.
I have found that this to be slightly different in a front wheel drive though especially with regards to the trail braking time(Almost none but this is largely chassis dependent) and the phase when the accelerator starts being applied.
I have submitted footage for review & it would be great to get your point of view especially in a tight "Spec" series with no LSD.
Thanks again for your content, I am studying it in detail.
Very helpful with motorcycle cornering as well. Thanks
Underrated channel ever
These are the best videos ever
More traction = more speed - just looking and carring for traction in high speed! but, (by irony if you have everything under control you dont go fast enought (M.Adretti))
thanks a lot for the series its awesome 👌
Cheers for these maaaaate
Thanks so much for doing these!
my goodness this content is amazing bro! thanks a lot ! I will use these techniques on Gran Turismo :) haha
i think my trail braking is what's letting me down. thanks for the videos, i just got my first wheel and assetto corsa is kicking my ass, but the s🅱️in is already not as prevalent as 3 days ago, and at least consistency is already much improved
Hey man. Love these and totally sharing them. My pet peeve here is the diagram and explanation of Phase 1 pedal work. The graph indicates immediate 100% brake pressure, you even SAY lifting off ...and go to the illustration which shows 100% brake pressure as a square wave. which would mean stabbing the brakes. The braking force should be shown to be ramped up ALSO like in your later video about braking (you do explain it there). But this video by itself ILLUSTRATES stabbing of the brakes .....
Hi, yes, fair point - the diagram is probably a little simplistic. When I eventually revisit these we'll have it changed. Thanks for the feedback. Cheers, Scott.
wow this is some great stuff! exactly what i was looking for thanks mate.
keep up the good work!
Maybe make a video specifically on weight transfer in a kart that would be interesting but anyway you've already made lots of very usefull videos :)
Thanks for these. I think a larger part of racing is intuitive though.
Excellent presentation!!! Can you make a video for new drivers. I am sure we have been all in cars with drivers who brake and excellerate abruptly
I was not planning on playing forza tonight but I guess I have to try this out!
excellent tutorial.
Just what I needed for the start of my sim racing experience. I kept spinning out when I tried to shift down while turning
You should do an episode on how to do a corner like the parabolica in italy
Driver61, the part I struggle with the most is the downshift and braking phase how to get it smooth? Are you coming down the gears and heal toe downshift? (This sometimes slightly upsets the car and hard to maintain consistent brake pressure) Or are you just selecting the gear you want for the corner before the trail braking phase and releasing the clutch slowly? Or is it a rev match blip quickly after the braking phase before turn in?
Thank you very much for your videos. I have a question - what are the implications for fwd racing cars? I am currently racing a BTCC FWD Avensis on a simulator and see that the fastest guys are keeping 20% throttle through phase 2 and 3.
Thank you in advance.
Georgi Nedev
Phases 2 and 3 are the entry phases and transition, where there is overlap of braking and cornering i.e. trail braking. During phase 2 they are keeping a small amount of throttle on to shift effective brake bias to the rear by using engine drive torque to reduce the effective front brake torque. This sharpens corner entry by reducing understeer and eventually induces some oversteer. At phase 3 the brakes are off but throttle is still partly on because on a FWD car normally understeers under throttle, but in this case throttle is needed to balance the oversteering car.
thx man!!!!Good job
thanks you so match mate. yo are great
A very good video im curious if this is applicable for karting?
Great video! One question: will these 6 phases change if it's uphill or downhill?
Not so much the phases change, just turning and braking zones change slightly. More ot less because of weight transfer shifting
Still looking or the cheat sheets
Dope vids bruv! Helpful af
@Driver61 i hope that thx to u ill be an f1 champ one day! Love from poland aye
the question is should we always brake 100% everytime & depend on the corner its either short or long braking. or depend on type of corner you dont need 100% braking everytime?
Hey , thank you!
Is this gradually breaking and accelerating also apllyable for outdoor petrol karts with a max. Speed of 70 km/h?. My weight is 101 kg and im 6'4 foot
I was wondering, do you change gear (up or down) during cornering? If you do, does it change the load and therefore grip, stability at all? Also, does this apply to all types of car?
If you have a car with a turbo, shouldn't you get on full throttle earlier as you need time for the turbo to spool up?
When you say “slow corner” and “fast corner” do you simply mean a corner closer to 180 degrees is slower than a corner closer to 0 degrees?
Is it during stage 4 where we’re either coasting or on the throttle, right before the Apex?
What would be different for a fwd vs rwd or awd?
Yo great video man easy to understand and good formatting and presentation.
Apologies for braking the 0 dislikes track record. Had to do it cuz of my OCD!
Hello, I'm a RC Driver at beginner level... How to handle the corners with an electric engine?
I imagine the torque of the electric engine was way too much and so once the car is straightened you accelerate otherwise youre likely to spin it coming out of the corner.
This was the one that took me from a befuddled idiot facing the wrong way in the grass to actually figuring out corners
Wont you lock up if you use 100% brake pressure?
1:28 unless your are at the Nurburgring....
Is it better to break hard right before a turn, it is it better to break lightly farther before a turn?
One u loose traction, and one you lose speed
Is it me or is there is almost another phase to braking though, where the weight of the car hasn't transferred and you can't use full braking force?
But if you hit 100% brake pressure wouldn’t you lock up?
what about left foot braking here?
Wait a minute I thought u were supposed to use the down force of the nose once getting in brake and trail it through diagram 1.2.3
It would be so interesting if you could break down the line and brake/ accel trace of famous corners in the world.... in GT or road cars.
Basically, more of you talking 😅
100% braking without abs????
Imagine dropping school for to be a racer.
Scott is such a nice guy considering his dad is an ass 😂! That said i do have epic respect for nigal
No relation between Scott and Nigel Mansell
You don’t know what the heck your talking about. Haha. I’ll down shift wherever the hell I want and Dale sr still wont get close enough to spin me. Nah you get it. In short when one feels he’s on it he/she probably. That is if they understand getting on and they a driver cause they don’t like to be beat. Real talk especially when it comes to a formula 1 car. Just like playing an intense awesome piece of music on guitar. You zip through it do this do that with timing and rhythm both crucial for the preformce