How to Drive the Limit on Track (Definitive Guide)

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  • @abccanada6248
    @abccanada6248 4 ปีที่แล้ว +187

    This is perfect for the next time I'm renting a base model Altima from Hertz in Seattle

    • @utoobia
      @utoobia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      What could go wrong?

    • @thaddeusbradley5986
      @thaddeusbradley5986 3 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      pro trick : watch series at Flixzone. I've been using it for watching all kinds of movies during the lockdown.

    • @marcushezekiah6627
      @marcushezekiah6627 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @Thaddeus Bradley Yea, I have been watching on flixzone for since november myself =)

    • @santanamayson2872
      @santanamayson2872 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @Thaddeus Bradley yup, I have been using flixzone for years myself :)

    • @utoobia
      @utoobia 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@thaddeusbradley5986 ...Flixzone is a SCAM. Avoid!

  • @hammer86_
    @hammer86_ 7 ปีที่แล้ว +54

    Thank you for making these tutorials. This is my 2nd year on track and I'm hoping to get the car sliding this year. This will help.

    • @Driver61
      @Driver61  7 ปีที่แล้ว +24

      Hi, no problem, I'm glad you're enjoying them. Try getting some good quality coaching to speed up your learning. Cheers, Scott.

    • @chadconnolly1138
      @chadconnolly1138 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      I'm here so I stop sliding!

    • @loganm2766
      @loganm2766 ปีที่แล้ว

      Little slide is good :)

  • @thegreatc8137
    @thegreatc8137 7 ปีที่แล้ว +55

    I love these tutorials. I'm only applying the lessons to sim racing but it's helping me a lot. The trail braking video brought my lap times down significantly, and I still need a lot of practice. I'm hoping to get into LeMons racing soon, or at least get a car for track days. Thanks for the great insights. Keep up the great work!

    • @davidsegalle563
      @davidsegalle563 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      TheGreatC81 by how much? In pc2 i get around 0.5 secs trying to trail brake to the limit rather than being safe. Being smooth os what really helps (ive reduced arouns 1.5 secs a lap of spa in AC (before pc2 came out)

    • @clangswordsman4968
      @clangswordsman4968 4 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@davidsegalle563 It really depend what track, trail braking at Brands Hatch is essential and can shave seconds of a lap whereas some tracks with more basic or sharp turns you would focus on straight line stopping power.

    • @LBC_squared
      @LBC_squared 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Miataaaaaaa

  • @olivermartin2459
    @olivermartin2459 7 ปีที่แล้ว +67

    Just discovered your channel. Really amazing content and exactly what I've been looking for. Thank you!

  • @MiguelBaptista1981
    @MiguelBaptista1981 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great video.
    Here's my shortlist for AC:
    1. Carefully watch and study the top player in the replay of your online race
    2. Practice those racing lines, breaking points, etc till you know them by heart.
    3. Memorized? Good. Now practice 1000 times more.
    4. Done.

  • @griffingaming1450
    @griffingaming1450 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I signed up to VRS and my first race I went over the fastest lap in great depth I watched the video of the lap about 5 times with rewinds as well to get as much information as possible and in my first qualification lap I notice a 2 second lap difference and also a I felt more confidant, it really helped with my consistency as well always having lap times within 200ths of a second between my lap times and was able to always be in top 5, I also won my first race with the help from VRS, even when I got hit or someone spun me and I lost a bunch of positions I always had the confidence to make the time I had lost and confidant in overtaking, wanted to thank you for the hard work you and you're team put into making drivers and virtual drivers much better and improve, really helped me out a lot and would definitely recommend VRS.

  • @jerryawesom5928
    @jerryawesom5928 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The A to D progression of driving is very accurate. I'm in my 6th year and a solid D. I've got about 120 track days under my belt with about half being time attack competitions.

  • @iceangel9006
    @iceangel9006 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Man last 2 years i try to take as much info in the warm up laps (amateur kart racing) and that gives you a HUGE advantage in the first 2 laps!! These info are gold!

  • @ziggyfreud5357
    @ziggyfreud5357 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Just excellent. I'm working my way thru these tutorials and when I've finished I'll repeat and repeat and repeat.
    I've been tracking my car for about 6 months and now with these tutorials I know where many of the errors are and how to work on getting rid of them. It's so important to know the principles before trying to put them into practice. Saves mega time that would otherwise be wasted on the track. Much thanks for the effort you've put into this channel.

    • @magikmastr
      @magikmastr 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Really effective way to word your appreciation. I agree!! Great content and detail

    • @ziggyfreud5357
      @ziggyfreud5357 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@magikmastr Wow JG, I forgot about making this comment. When I first wrote the comment my times around my home track were approx 2:20. Just kept on dropping with revision and practice. My PB now is 2:03.7 which is 1.5 sec slower than the pro drivers do it consistently :) This is a great learning series. I still go back to it ;-) I'm aiming for a 2:02 but don't know if it's within my ability but I just love tracking my car. Cheers - be safe

  • @ThingsAppended
    @ThingsAppended 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    You don't have nearly enough likes on this video for the amount of knowledge you're putting out to the world!

  • @MrOldMiguel
    @MrOldMiguel 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    I must say, listening to this I really get a whole new level respect for the guys who race and win at the Nürnburgring. They have to have 70+ corners perfectly optimized, always driving at the limit. The sheer length of the track and number of corners makes it a completely daunting task to drive perfectly at this crazy track.

  • @wwjnz9263
    @wwjnz9263 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is what I am missing! I never knew what to think about when sim racing. I only thought about where to brake, when to roll on to the throttle, and when to power out of a turn. This is going to get my mental eye looking further ahead.

  • @Dysert91
    @Dysert91 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Your tutorials are incredible! Thank you so much for making them free! I watched the first 3 in the series, let them soak in and got on iracing. Even with my pos G29 wheel and pedals I made huge improvements while testing tracks! I will most definitely be watching the entire series!

  • @Rantsula
    @Rantsula 4 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Thank you for a really interesting tutorial! I'm a sunday race driver, and also these instructions apply for car sim games also.

  • @dergrunepunkt
    @dergrunepunkt 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Great, just great video, perhaps one of the best you produced. I'm not a Real-life driver, just a Sim-driver and I can tell you that this concepts are great for me, I found this very useful to find a the limit on Paul Richard C3 which I knew that I wasn't at the limit but I couldn't get the time any lower, started to use this techniques and 10 laps later I lowered around a second. Cheers mate.

  • @AGHunter1992
    @AGHunter1992 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Really help frame my mind on what phases I should try to induce slip. Mainly optimum braking, getting on power, and entry speed. Thanks

  • @paolunna
    @paolunna 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow boys! 21 minutes non stop!! Thanks very much!!

  • @lydiagould3090
    @lydiagould3090 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Excellent tutorials! Thankyou for putting these up here.I`m in 1st year of track driving ,and doing Caterham Academy race series in 2019.You explain things clearly ,and the diagrams are easy to read.Struggling with Tower bend at Croft, when I got home I tuned in and found your tutorial on the 3 things I got wrong!!!Big improvement the following week.Keep them coming!

  • @gregorix1445
    @gregorix1445 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    i watched 10 minutes of this video, went into a league race on assetto corsa, mx5 cup on Laguna Seca aand i started gaining 0.3 seconds just in the 1st 2 corners
    I'll have my POV on my channel soon, title: "An absolute rollercoaster of a race"
    i started sim-racing about 3 months ago so i guess that 's the time i should start seeing improvement
    And these videos help out quite a lot
    I still don't trail brake because that takes a lot out of me to focus on.
    Of course i'm going to finish watching this video, there's some serious knowledge over here. :D

  • @joeygu5550
    @joeygu5550 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi Scott, I just followed you recently, was impressed by all tutorials you posted and your narrative which is easy for none native speaker like me. After watched all your track tutorials, I couldn't find any one which could provide an in-depth explanation of the difference between power-train, FWD, RWD and especially 4WD hot hatch I owned. Appreciated if you could do something on this topic.

  • @wobblyrampack9655
    @wobblyrampack9655 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    A real goldmine of info. Thanks very much.

  • @Obscurity202
    @Obscurity202 3 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Would love to hear you talk about how to stop over-driving as a beginner. Find it really hard to tone it down a notch.

  • @321-Gone
    @321-Gone 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Interesting to think of this while trail braking. UR a legend.

  • @bartolomehus
    @bartolomehus ปีที่แล้ว

    Scott, many Thanks for this series, I just got back to this one after 3 years and realize it’s absolutely true. I did went through the A-D route. Could you do some more in depth? especially about suspension and aero set up and how to change it depending on track conditions or track type (low speed, high speed circuit)

  • @markflowers4487
    @markflowers4487 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am an Iracing driver. These are the best tutorials I have seen. Very helpful.

  • @p.c.h.6721
    @p.c.h.6721 5 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    If you are not driving at the limit, someone else will.

  • @autotempest
    @autotempest 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great info here! One thing I've been wondering about is, in a car with ABS, how can you tell which wheel would be locking up? It feels pretty similar regardless of which wheel is locking, since the ABS keeps it rolling, and you feel the same pulsing regardless.

    • @user-zp3xc4to1t
      @user-zp3xc4to1t 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      You might guess it actually. On a straight line both tyres would be locked up in most cases. If you lock up when turning, it is probably the inside tyre. (If rears lock up i guess you can easily feel it)

  • @iceangel9006
    @iceangel9006 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    I do some of these and they really work, especially on the opening laps,which are crucial

  • @cyrusyn
    @cyrusyn 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Hi Scott, great video! I got some questions while watching this video. 1. Sliding my car out of a corner seems to be easier than entering one. How do I slide into a turn. Sliding into a turn very easily becomes a drift. 2. How much slip angle on both front and rear are we talking about here when sliding thru a corner? 3. What are the indications that my car is sliding into a corner without drifting into it?

  • @jzyyz
    @jzyyz 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    We all know Scott is a good driver, but not enough is said about how good his point form note making is. That shit's proper academic.

  • @ueokatsuhiro
    @ueokatsuhiro 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Watching this in lockdown mode 🚧

  • @Brooker0013
    @Brooker0013 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks. Although I think I kniw what I should be doing this definitely helps. I feel like I've lost between .5 - 1sec over the last 6 months. I'm not sure if this is because of injury, confident or what but I was already 1second off the top guys in gran turismo sport. I'm not very consistent but I hope I can start gaining time again. Take care dude👍🏼✌🏼

  • @RS5PoisonClan
    @RS5PoisonClan 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    These are incredible. Going to have a very educational off season!

  • @valentinnechita9389
    @valentinnechita9389 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Hello. First of all, thank you very much for making this technical info available to the public! I have a question about finding the limits of the car, and specifically, always remembering where those limits are: Do you suggest keeping an eye out on the speedometer and remember the exact entry speed for each corner, or always go with how the car feels, and how much grip there is available at the moment?

    • @flakey7832
      @flakey7832 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      i'm no expert, but no racing driver looks at the speedo, they look at the track

    • @valentinnechita9389
      @valentinnechita9389 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@flakey7832 and how do they know when they’re at the proper entry speed?

    • @ekaimin8451
      @ekaimin8451 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@valentinnechita9389 feel

    • @ekaimin8451
      @ekaimin8451 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Since conditions are constantly changing its useless to use the speedo

  • @1carmensworld
    @1carmensworld 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you very much. This was super helpful, plus you are easy on the eyes.

  • @Aznprada
    @Aznprada ปีที่แล้ว

    You could accelerate all this by driving on ice or snow as well. Work your way up through the tires, into the suspension system, and finally steering and brake lock to understand the "limits" of your car. CoF is the name of the game here! Because it's not the speed that kills ya, it's the suddenly stopping that does.

  • @carls-95
    @carls-95 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Could you do a tutorial specifically tailored to karting at some point? That would be awesome!

  • @ozanbaskan5524
    @ozanbaskan5524 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thank you Scott as always.

  • @Dave4291
    @Dave4291 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is very well thought through and presented

  • @1xRacer
    @1xRacer 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love this channel, freaking awesome, thank you

    • @Driver61
      @Driver61  7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Mymultisportlife thanks! Please help us and share when you can! Cheers Scott.

  • @waynebynoe99
    @waynebynoe99 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    HEY! YOU MENTION A LOT ABOUT THINKING!!! BUT NOTHING ABOUT FEEL!!! A DRIVERS MOST IMPORTANT ASSET! PERIOD!

    • @waynebynoe99
      @waynebynoe99 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@pete3816 HEY! LOOK LETS NOT APPLY THE BABY BATH WATER SYNDROME! IN HASTE TO CONSOLIDATE YOUR POSITION!! AN OBSERVANTCY OF ANY KIND! WILL ALWAYS BE ATTRACTED MORESO! BY THE DYNAMIC OF FEEL! A SENSORY PERCEPTION! THEN WE APPLY THE PHYSICS OF REASON! YOU DON'T JUST DRIVE A CAR!! YOU WEAR IT!! ALSO! SO IT HAS TO FEEL RIGHT!

    • @waynebynoe99
      @waynebynoe99 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      HEY! SO U DON'T BELIEVE A CAR EXPRESES FEELINGS!? IN THE FORM OF AN ALGORITHMIC DATA! STREAM!?

    • @waynebynoe99
      @waynebynoe99 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      HEY! U DO KNOW THE INTERNAL COMBUSTION! ENGINE!! DUPLICATES THE PATTERN OF HUMAN BIOFUNCTIONS!?

  • @arthurlee8956
    @arthurlee8956 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very very good tutorial !

  • @greerm5
    @greerm5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Very well done video.

  • @jivincent5190
    @jivincent5190 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hi, I found your videos very informative, thanks for making them. Can you please make a video on Traction control/ traction optimise system for a race car? Thanks

  • @tubzvermeulen
    @tubzvermeulen 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks for the video

  • @Lateralgrip
    @Lateralgrip 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fantastic channel!!!!

  • @leonardolinonbike
    @leonardolinonbike 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Great content, keep it up !

  • @benji928
    @benji928 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Amazing content dude, has helped a lot with my sim racing and finding improvements to my driving even after years of racing. Note: not real racing, couldn't possibly afford lol

  • @nathan32121
    @nathan32121 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Love your work

  • @anthonyboyne2386
    @anthonyboyne2386 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    thanks Scott !

  • @jimdeadguyvincent4026
    @jimdeadguyvincent4026 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    his info is price-less
    Thank you for all of the videos

  • @groomlake51
    @groomlake51 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    Thanks Scott💪🏼😎

  • @CentralSuperCars
    @CentralSuperCars 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can you do a video on how sponsorship works and how to get a drive with a race team please.

    • @georgerosebush9754
      @georgerosebush9754 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      I don't really know but it's probably a case of "be so good they can't ignore you", the only problem is that everyone else also wants to do the same thing.

    • @handre8969
      @handre8969 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      th-cam.com/video/IDQand2qvtA/w-d-xo.html my personal favorite video on sponsorship

  • @Bes1997_
    @Bes1997_ 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    “The limit is when you have a little bit of opposite lock or little bit of understeer. The driver finds the limit and pushes it a little bit higher.”
    No one explained this as clear as you. 5:49

  • @opmike343
    @opmike343 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is something I really struggle with. I can do an at (my) limit push for about 2-3 laps, but then I eventually kind of regress to a slower pace that I can do consistently. Charles Leclerc mentioned at one of the previous grand prix this year that he was doing "qualy lap after qualy lap" in the last phase of the race. I'm really want to get to the point where I can switch that kind of thing on when needed. Fundamentally, I want to be able to do my qualy lap pace for more than a short stint without feeling mentally exhausted.
    It's crazy how there's roads everywhere yet so few to practice and train this kind of stuff. Cars are involved with a crazy amount of deaths, but no nation puts a serious level of effort into initial and continued driver training.

  • @iceangel9006
    @iceangel9006 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Great info,thanks man

  • @CWCollective
    @CWCollective 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i drive over speed limit all the time

  • @zdravost
    @zdravost 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    How would one check the grip when on a motorcycle?

  • @BenTrem42
    @BenTrem42 ปีที่แล้ว

    I'm still _flumoxed_ by how some drivers do fine with understeer. How to compensate if you're sliding wide?! My instincts tell me what to do with oversteer, but ... I'm lost with this!
    *_"Catch the understeer"_* ... ease off the gas and add a bit of brake to load the front end?

  • @zakiranderson722
    @zakiranderson722 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    14:35 if its waining er raining. Made me chuckle.

    • @gpajic1987
      @gpajic1987 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      It's how my pup Boston Terrier says it

  • @vanderspaced
    @vanderspaced 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    17:05 @Max Verstappen 😛

  • @LBC_squared
    @LBC_squared 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I just get so excited that at the beginning of the track day I'm a C then I'm like... Time to get fast and I become a D

  • @ES-REDROT
    @ES-REDROT 11 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Man I need your assistance .. how can we start a coaching session?

  • @lodiped
    @lodiped 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    What's potentially wrong when the car understeers overall but in some corners, right after the apex and adding a bit of throttle, it oversteers? This happens a lot to me in formula cars, it's really rare in closed wheel cars. (Everything in simulators, of course)

    • @lodiped
      @lodiped 7 ปีที่แล้ว

      I already have a pretty soft rear anti-roll bar btw

    • @FezzantPlucka
      @FezzantPlucka 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      It may be because you have too much understeer in the setup. The reason it snaps on exit is because you are trying to compensate for the understeer on corner entry. The first thing to try is to soften the front 'springs' (tortion bars in an F1 car).

    • @AJDerzie
      @AJDerzie 7 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      This is the typical understeer behavior that fools people into thinking they have an oversteer problem. First ask yourself if it is understeering in the low speed or high speed corners. In low speed corners, soften the springs and then possibly the roll bars in the front. If the problem is high speed corners, then its an aero issue. Increase the front downforce relative to the rear. Adding a little rake can affect the aero balance and also help with low speed turn in if you feel like adding to the confusion. Hope that helps!

    • @AJDerzie
      @AJDerzie 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Soft rear roll bar may be your issue. soft in rear will increase rear grip and decrease front grip (i.e. cause understeer)

    • @lodiped
      @lodiped 7 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      derzie01 Thanks for the tips. I'll test it when I get my computer back and then post the results.

  • @GBiv78
    @GBiv78 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    So basically Days of Thunder is a movie about a driver going from "Driver C" to "Driver D"

  • @billyhamilton3669
    @billyhamilton3669 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I find when I drive on the limit sliding very slightly with no opposite lock or very minimal opposite lock, I find I can only keep this pace for about 2 laps before the tyers start to loose grip and I have to back off to prevent it from over sliding too much. Is there something I can do to set up like tyre pressure to help increase how long I can push the limit with max grip for a longer period of time? Or do i simply have to slightly reduce how long i push the limit? Also it's all tyers that start to loose grip, I drive very balanced/even and I now like to set up to have very even/balanced

  • @doctor_who1
    @doctor_who1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    i get it. so driver A me in car, driver B Bottas, Driver C Lewis Hamilton, Driver D Sebastien Loeb

  • @Driver61
    @Driver61  6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thanks for watching! Check out the rest of the Driver's Uni series including how to trail brake (bit.ly/2PypIMK)
    Find out your driver level by taking our scorecard test: bit.ly/2LmYNBA

  • @cheesebusiness
    @cheesebusiness 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Driving on the limit means that you have no room for a mistake. Only luck can help driving on the limit during the whole race.

  • @breakawaymotorsports
    @breakawaymotorsports 4 ปีที่แล้ว

    This is why drifting is NOT the fast way around a corner. Just a faster way to wear down tires

  • @salman534
    @salman534 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    👍

  • @danieldorn9989
    @danieldorn9989 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seems that I only make mistakes while driving

  • @elijahschool2725
    @elijahschool2725 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    ready to send my pajero on my l's

  • @creekboi7
    @creekboi7 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Guilty Driver C

  • @Chimera6297
    @Chimera6297 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've accidentally found the limits of my last car on public roads, my fuckin fwd car lost traction and rotated right to the direction I wanted to go. I shit a fuckin brick as I did not expect to lose traction going 90 around an easy left. Totally smoked the guy trying to race me tho
    I'll admit traction control probably saved my ass that time, not skill

  • @Draax1
    @Draax1 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Im driver C 😅

  • @LuN4t1CDJ
    @LuN4t1CDJ 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Videos would improve a lot if audio was better. Sounds like you are using the camera's build-in microphone.