I know this is an old video, but haven’t watched Chris for a while. If you love cars, you can listen to Chris’ lengthy commentaries and enjoy every minute of them. They bring with them much more depth, experience, and professionalism than so many out there.
4:30 cracked me up. "If you're in an M3 or C63 on a B-road, don't even try to stay with an A45, because you will fall off." THAT makes it worth 40 grand!
I've watched this video so many times over the past few years and I keep coming back to watch it now and then, why because these two cars are my dream cars and Chris Harris is a legend.
Josh O'Pray haha I actually own an M135i, I’ve had it for 2 years now. Lol time does fly. An M3 is next in line. Defo get an M140i. Prices are low now because of lockdown so get one in the next few month because prices will go back up.
Chris Harris should do a comparison between all the super hatches. A45 AMG, M135i, Audi RS3, Golf R, Leon Cupra, Focus RS, Civic Type R, Megane RS, Astra VXR. Maybe add the Audi S3 and Golf Gti/Clubsport in there too. Would be great for someone like me who's deciding what to get.
Because historically for whatever reason, Americans haven't bought hatchbacks when they've been for sale in the US. That's why the only Audi S3 available in the US is the Sedan/Saloon version whereas here in Europe we get the hatchback, sportback and saloon versions. You should still be happy though, you get the cars for way cheaper than we do.
I recently spoke to a German who was visiting the US on business and we were working together and we talked about car prices. I was surprised by the prices he told me he paid for his cars. Europe with VAT and other expenses make their car much more expensive so you are right Harpreet06, we should not complain fully about our choice of cars.
This show with Chris is amazing. It is what Top Gear should have been, but it's total clown show right now. Keep up a good work and I hope you can stay here, online!
Usually car review bash one car and praise the other. Chris actually praises BOTH cars in their own different unqiue way instead of bashing one for being faster then the other. I love it
Another amazing video! And it isn't just the Chris Harris part of it either, the camera work is AMAZING and the editing is just phenomenal. I don't know how you guys can pack so much quality into your videos week after week. BRAVO!!!!
Just considering the tires when comparing the lap times isn't thought far enough. Keep in mind that there is a four-wheel-drive-version available on the M135i, too. In terms of grip, 4WD beats RWD, flatout. 2 more tires to get the power on the street beat better tires on the RWD.
Dani Kimbro you've explained it perfectly, I'd say the GTR system is literally amazing, mechanically fascinating as well, porsche as well then the sti/evo systems also drive train alone doesn't matter too much :) I've noticed on sports cars in particular awd doesn't bite in as hard but mid apex and out of the corner awd excels with the massive traction advantage, and rwd is excellent for biting into the corners. so pretty much fast between corners and out of corners if done right and maybe even into the corners if the chassis is balanced like a GTR where they moved the gearbox into the rear to get it close to 50:50
Don't forget that most 4WD systems also induce understeer at the limit, which does kill apex speeds. Around a track like Suzuka, 4WD doesn't seem like a great advantage.
Dani Kimbro yeah the turn in for awd is worse than 2wd.. on track 2wd is generally better but it depends on how the cars are set up tires, chassis, suspension wise, weight distribution also the driver
Brilliant as always! I really look forward to the inevitable comparison with the new Ford RS which is now widely considered the segment benchmark. Must say, Chris is still the undisputed star of these reviews, no question here! This would definitely be epic!
My local track and I see Mr Harris there occasionally. Its amazing how much fun you can fit into a mile and it has all the corner types you need.. For reference Brands Hatch Indy is 1.2 miles long.
I was looking at buying the RS3, but aside from the better noise it makes, marginally quicker acceleration and slightly more lavish interior, the A45 just looks like a much better overall package, better braking, better grip, better handling and it looks way more aggressive. Audi just haven't done enough with the styling in my opinion to make the RS3 stand out from the standard A3 and the Rotors they keep are so dated. The black 19" Merc touring car style wheels on the other hand look damn good.
Get the Audi Rs3, mate... I live in the city where it's made and people still go nuts when they see one, but whenever an A45 comes up, no one gives a damn..
I drove the Rs3 and to spec it the same as my 45 i simply could not have afforded it. The seats, seating postion, steering wheel/feel/weight and brakes are far superior in the Mercedes. With adjustable dampers it rides better too for my taste. The box on the facelift will give downshifts at speed faster than the Audi so you don't have to over brake as much. The Rs3 feels slightly quicker and sound of the engine is better and yes is better built inside and out but is sooo bland. In the UK with all toys your getting near 60k for a hatchback that looks like a s line. The A45 is an event every time you drive it, don't understand why so many people hate on it all the time.
chris harris review just like i thought about the car...a ordinary person that love a automobile world, not a race driver, a journalist....bravo chris..
Two Thoughts Way to go Merc smart move with the EVO being discontinued , cool car hope there a coupe. Drive/ Chris could you do or have you done a review of each awd manufactures system pros and cons beyond each manufactures marketing hype? Thanks
I've got an A45 with the Aero kit and 19" black 19 spoke AMG rim options. Had it almost a year now. It's a go-kart. The amount of grip is sensational & even more incredible in the wet. In Australia they are imported fully spec'ed with performance exhaust, all the gadgets, (comand, linguistic etc) and AMG Recaros (same as the video) for $78,000 on road. The aero kit and wheel upgrade is extra. For the money it's actually good value.
+toose70, Hi, toose70, would you mind sharing your experience with the A45 as a daily driver (I know that the new facelifted model has the adjustable dampers so it is slightly different)? Main questions; how refined is it in terms of cabin noise when driving in town and do you find it too harsh at low speed? Thanks a lot! gtiz52006
You have to remember the n55 engine is very capable for tuning.. you can get almost 400 horses with only a stage 1. Yes the a45 will get similar numbers... But personally I prefer a 6 cylinder.
I think Chris Harris is the best reviewer of cars I've seen, very insightful, doesn't live by cliches. I DON'T think he'd be suitable for Top gear though, as they don't actually do serious car reviews anymore. They just fuck around. Can you imagine a Top Gear segment being full of information and insights like we saw in this review? I can't
For the most respected magazines the M135i became the benchmark in the compact hot hatches segment, Evo has choosen it in the short list for their car of the year 2012 contest, it even took part in the final short list of the exclusive six cars group (very impresive considering that the winner was the Pagani Huayra) Top Gear journalists has voted the M135i as the sportscar of the year. To the date, I don´t hear anything about the A45....
My cosuin has a M135i and that thing sounds awesome and pulls like hell! Although I massively like the AMG the sound is holding me back from loving it; I'm just not sold on it
Nice job Mr. Harris.. love the short thought pauses during you're dialog. lol makes me think to. Lots of useful info,, I'm starting to come round, keep up the fine work, and above all drive careful. thanx.
I'll be honest, as a Merc fan I wouldn't be disappointed if the BMW won in this test done by Chris Harris. As far as I'm concerned, all the reviewers but him are soo biased by the RWD of the BMW's. So even though he preferred the AMG, I found Chris Harris much more objective than other so called "car reviews".
Most reviewers are car enthusiasts and most enthusiast drivers prefer RWD. As RWD drivetrains become more and more rare - particularly in this class and price bracket - you can understand the natural enthusiasm for the BMW's, last of a dying breed.
Chris Harris is quite possibly the epicentre of the automotive review process. It's difficult for me to image life without his reviews, & even more so to recall my life before. In fact, when time travel is invented, I will strongly consider my access to these videos & my ability to replay them. Beyond that, I never have wanted to travel back further than indoor plumbing. Kinda need that. Perhaps there is a bookend in that statement. Chris Harris is as vital as indoor plumbing, the others? Poop
needraintodrift I just bought the 2017 last month.. my first reaction while my car dealer was driving "damn it's so fast, and why is he pushing my new Mercedes during break in" haha I didn't care about breaking in, I drove like I wanted it to be. Newer cars don't need as much break in as older ones
Randy R yes don't worry so much about breaking the car in but you do need to worry about the car's temperature. Dont floor it while it's still cold, let it run for at least 5 minutes. Congrats on your new car by the way I hope you enjoy it
needraintodrift yes you are right.. I'm more worried about cold temperatures than breaking in... the funny things is I drove my Mazda 3 hard during cold morning... because it gives me extra speed during cold... and it hasn't broken down since 70k miles. Strange
Nice conclusion. "If you can buy the AMG then why not" More people need to be this open minded and not be like "Don't buy this car because it costs X amount more even though it is X amount more expensive! BUY THE CHEAPER ONE!!!!" If you could buy the more expensive and better one then why not?
You mr. Chris are real profesional and i always liked waching you in every car. I think you are one of the little who are trying to do the best in so fun way!!! Funny and very serious about reviewing the cars!! And that skill of driving....omg..
Fun when the AMG lifts an inside rear wheel… that part and the crackling on overrun, reminds me of the handling, stability and immense enjoyment of the superbly suspended Alfasud Ti of the early 1980’s :-)
I am flabbagastered that people spend £42,500 on a hatchback like the A45 AMG. Not just because of the high price, I mean I can totally see why a rich person spends £250,000 on a Rolls Royce or £200,000 on a Ferrari, but why £42K on an A45 AMG.. you can get an Audi A7 for that kind of money... or a Jaguar XF, or a slightly used BMW M3. Same applies to cars like the Renault Megane 275 or Golf R's that cost well over £30,000 I could never justify spending that amount on a hatchback.
As I had a M135i, let me Tell You why: yes you can get bigger and more prestigeous Cars for that Money. But you wont get the Same Level of Performance. I'd Rather have a A45 AMG then a A7 Diesel or a base E-Class. Also a used M3, which i considered as well, will cost you a Fortune to Insurance and Maintainance. The m135i is Rather Cheap in this regard. Also You get very good Deals on new Cars, like Mercedes in Germany Give you a Cover all Insurance for 19,00€ a month with Leasing Right now, for The a45 AMG, Thats insane. A M4 in a very good Insurance Rating is like 250,00€ a month, just to Give u an idea.
Ultima893 Yes but both the Audi A7 and Jag XF are in completely different segments. e.g. I'd not put those in the same group as the A45 AMG when buying new. Likewise a lot of people also make the comparison to a used M3, the word being 'used' and not a new one (Which in the USA is some $15k+ more). Also in North America in winter the M3 is about a much use as a chocolate fireguard. An inch of snow and it would struggle. The AWD performance is appealing on the AMG for that reason.
Great review! Chris Harris even recall the test he did in the Audi RS3, that was faster than the BMW 135i but the understeering killed all the fun... In conclusion the A45 AMG is the best of the tree cars. But I would like to ask to Chris Harris, if he read the comments, how he compare the A45AMG against a Mitsubishi EVO X. Thanks!
Finally I manage to drive a A45AMG and I also had drove the EvoX, previous. So... which is best... the A45AMG is better and a bit faster, of course, but not for much (when you are driving it you even notice... but the crono don't lie). But like Chris said in the video, with the EvoX you can over-steer (play with) it easialy and with the A45AMG you have to do the famouse Scandinavian flick. And for the price of the A45AMG, you can buy 2 used EvoX or buy 1 EvoX and tune it to "kill" the A45AMG and you still save a lot of money, for fuel! Or just buy a used Nissan GT-R, is better and simple! But, maybe is my problem... but I didn't felt the torque in A45AMG... I think the BMW M135i should be more brute and urgent torque delivery, that is the next I must drive... But I must say that the A45 AMG is one of the best fast cars that you can drive with tones of confidence one the road! The grip it gets from the road is almost endless! You feel like a professional driver when you are at the wheel and I believe that would be very difficult to pass it in a curvy road!
Alexandre Fernandes And the brakes. Oh my god. It's a heart in the mouth moment if you try an emergency stop :-) It certainly feels like a safe car at speed, even if not the most engaging.
You have to take into account the sort of roads you have available to you and your local weather conditions. For me, living in the UK and on the edge of the Peak District I think the A45 would be the much better car, lots of narrow, twisty lanes where 4wd traction and point-and-squirt torque from a blown motor comes into it's own.
These M-Lites are such a laugh. I've had an M140i for coming up two years now, and it still makes me smile after 27,000 miles. I know it's not as quick as an A45 or an RS3, but it's still more than quick enough to get you locked up, and that "monumental engine wedged in a gawky little body" recipe has just never got boring for me. I normally get bored with cars after six months, but I still look forward to driving this as much as the day I got it. When the four cylinder AWD replacement comes next year, it's undoubtedly going to be more capable, and probably quicker, but it just won't be the same.
Just traded my 2015/16 M135i LCI one of the most underrated BMWs ever it is one of the best cars I have ever owned. The last 10 months I added a BlueSpark tuning module and a K&N air filter for 273KW and 517NM … M2 performance. Only thing missing was X Drive as a bit difficult getting the most out of the power but a lot of fun trying.
He says steering wheel itself at 2:55 not how well the cars steers. At that point in the vid, before the circuit analysis, he wouldn't be going into the steering performance yet. That early in the vid he was just going into the cosmetics.
I've just ordered the 135i with the 8 speed box and some other specs but was advised to avoid the adaptive suspension. Can't wait. It's going to be a long 6 weeks waiting.
The fact you didn't spot the English language not being his native language, says enough about you as well. Back to the point, why would BMW have a half-assed go at something? If they could make a better car they probably would've, Mercedes won the Hot-hatch game, simple as that.
Andrew Kim so BMW isn’t bothered about making a ‘full on’ M1?... so you haven’t seen the 1M that BMW made in limited numbers a couple of years ago then?
@@Gandalf721 ha ha so u think ppl dont buy a car and have posing or bragging rights in their list of tick boxs? Arnt u aware of the whole car modding scene? Car are all about an expression of urself. Car are like bikes and houses. U take pride in what u own. U appreciate what u worked hard for. Thats not showing off. It's sad that u feel that way. Sounds like ur the jealous type.
@@arelaththewhitewolf230 easy to spot? No. Easy to hear? Yes. A stock a45 has next to no visual clues that it's anymore special than a diesel version with amg pack. Same wheels bumpers etc. U need the aero kit for an a45 to stand out and resemble what its capable of. Some ppl like that some ppl dont. But my point is still valid that the a45 still looks almost the same as the diesel brother.
The Merc is just pricing itself a little too highly if I'm honest. I really enjoyed the video so thanks DRIVE for making it. Chris Harris is just a superstar in his reviewing. He really gives it thought and is just so much more precise than what we see on TV. I just feel bad that I don't get to see you guys on the big screen. The Merc needs to come down. Couple of grand makes all the difference.
Mercedes 450 AMG has a 2liter turbo and compressor and vourwheeldrive! It accelerates faster and uses less fuel consumption. Also it has 2 more doors, making it more useable in daily life. And my last personal touch are the better looks of the Mercedes.
The bmw is nicer and more mature inside. The merc looked tacky and boy racer inside. I test drive both recently. The merc is aimed at trust fund boy racers the bmw suits all drivers inside and is less loud looking. It whips most cars on the road.
+YTNG MTT I actually agree with this maybe not the trust fund thing but I thought it was tacky with the iPad looking thing stuck on the dash just looked odd, don't like the clocks either and the driving position isn't as nice as the bmw. I bought an m135i over the amg even though it's not the quicker car....
Both sic cars, be good if the A45 came in manual tho but then i spose you wouldent get that crazy crack between shifts, does it do that in auto boxs because they shift so fast ????
BMW disagrees. M5 and m3 went AWD as well. I remember when they used to make adverts of animals with huge front legs to mock FWD cars. Then a couple of years later they started making FWD 1 series
Yeah correct! The A 45 is a little bit expensive but I guess you get twice the quality and you know it. The BMW M135 is rather ugly and it almost killed Jeremy Clarkson so a lot of reasons to hate it when it suddenly went side ways in rain conditions. I wouldn't buy one (sorry but it's ugly).
***** Yeah I've seen it too...black with black rims...I really like the side lines....it really is a interesting car.....but then I saw the A 45 AMG black matte with black rims as well and I fell in love immediately.....Once again the M1 can't compete.....
I know this is an old video, but haven’t watched Chris for a while. If you love cars, you can listen to Chris’ lengthy commentaries and enjoy every minute of them. They bring with them much more depth, experience, and professionalism than so many out there.
0:07 and I have alredy decided my favourite
Exactly bro
TWAT and TWAT.
@@Teamlastofus guess you have to rely on AWD due to your lack of driving ability? AWD is made for women and beta males.
Merc for sure
Ik im late af but this comment made me smile😁
4:30 cracked me up. "If you're in an M3 or C63 on a B-road, don't even try to stay with an A45, because you will fall off." THAT makes it worth 40 grand!
I've watched this video so many times over the past few years and I keep coming back to watch it now and then, why because these two cars are my dream cars and Chris Harris is a legend.
A few years on I'm still rewatching this video!
15october91 Let us know if you ever get your dream car mate, I’m hoping to have an m140i or m240i in 2 years time.
Josh O'Pray haha I actually own an M135i, I’ve had it for 2 years now. Lol time does fly. An M3 is next in line. Defo get an M140i. Prices are low now because of lockdown so get one in the next few month because prices will go back up.
15october91 That’s class! Unfortunately I’m a student for the next couple years so that’s why I’m going to need to wait
@@15october91 Whats the difference between an M140I and M135I and is it worth it?
Chris Harris should do a comparison between all the super hatches. A45 AMG, M135i, Audi RS3, Golf R, Leon Cupra, Focus RS, Civic Type R, Megane RS, Astra VXR. Maybe add the Audi S3 and Golf Gti/Clubsport in there too. Would be great for someone like me who's deciding what to get.
Meanwhile, I'm sitting in the US and basically can flip a coin between the Focus RS or Golf R :(
At least we have the RS.......USA and their hatred of host hatches, it is not cool.
Harpreet06 almost all of these aren't in the US. WHY DOES EUROPE THING AMERICANS DON'T LIKE HOT HATCHBACKS!
Because historically for whatever reason, Americans haven't bought hatchbacks when they've been for sale in the US. That's why the only Audi S3 available in the US is the Sedan/Saloon version whereas here in Europe we get the hatchback, sportback and saloon versions. You should still be happy though, you get the cars for way cheaper than we do.
I recently spoke to a German who was visiting the US on business and we were working together and we talked about car prices. I was surprised by the prices he told me he paid for his cars. Europe with VAT and other expenses make their car much more expensive so you are right Harpreet06, we should not complain fully about our choice of cars.
I drive a M135 and love the little beast; Chris does a great entertaining comparison. After this little comparo, I'd love to own both to be honest.
This show with Chris is amazing. It is what Top Gear should have been, but it's total clown show right now.
Keep up a good work and I hope you can stay here, online!
Stfu
Worked out in the end though didn't it 😂
@ryanwainwright8025 still dumbed down way too much.
Usually car review bash one car and praise the other. Chris actually praises BOTH cars in their own different unqiue way instead of bashing one for being faster then the other. I love it
Another amazing video!
And it isn't just the Chris Harris part of it either, the camera work is AMAZING and the editing is just phenomenal. I don't know how you guys can pack so much quality into your videos week after week. BRAVO!!!!
I couldn't have said it better myself! Tiff, Jason and Chris in a "dog fight" around a race track... pure awesomeness!
I love chris Harris
I love how everyone else loves Chris on all of his videos... Seriously awesome person!!
Just considering the tires when comparing the lap times isn't thought far enough. Keep in mind that there is a four-wheel-drive-version available on the M135i, too. In terms of grip, 4WD beats RWD, flatout. 2 more tires to get the power on the street beat better tires on the RWD.
Dani Kimbro you've explained it perfectly, I'd say the GTR system is literally amazing, mechanically fascinating as well, porsche as well then the sti/evo systems
also drive train alone doesn't matter too much :)
I've noticed on sports cars in particular awd doesn't bite in as hard but mid apex and out of the corner awd excels with the massive traction advantage, and rwd is excellent for biting into the corners.
so pretty much fast between corners and out of corners if done right and maybe even into the corners if the chassis is balanced like a GTR where they moved the gearbox into the rear to get it close to 50:50
Don't forget that most 4WD systems also induce understeer at the limit, which does kill apex speeds.
Around a track like Suzuka, 4WD doesn't seem like a great advantage.
Dani Kimbro yeah the turn in for awd is worse than 2wd..
on track 2wd is generally better but it depends on how the cars are set up tires, chassis, suspension wise, weight distribution also the driver
@@tsujimasen maybe for hotlaps, but an awd will have an easier time in the race
I see so many people testing and comparing cars, but this test was one of the few good ones. Keep doing it this way, your reviews are good ;-)
Brilliant as always! I really look forward to the inevitable comparison with the new Ford RS which is now widely considered the segment benchmark. Must say, Chris is still the undisputed star of these reviews, no question here! This would definitely be epic!
Love Chris Harris' sense of humor! True car guy!
I'd take the M135i, for the price of the Merc you can have an almighty spec in the BMW and IMO it has a better engine and gearbox.
My local track and I see Mr Harris there occasionally. Its amazing how much fun you can fit into a mile and it has all the corner types you need.. For reference Brands Hatch Indy is 1.2 miles long.
I was looking at buying the RS3, but aside from the better noise it makes, marginally quicker acceleration and slightly more lavish interior, the A45 just looks like a much better overall package, better braking, better grip, better handling and it looks way more aggressive.
Audi just haven't done enough with the styling in my opinion to make the RS3 stand out from the standard A3 and the Rotors they keep are so dated. The black 19" Merc touring car style wheels on the other hand look damn good.
Get the Audi Rs3, mate... I live in the city where it's made and people still go nuts when they see one, but whenever an A45 comes up, no one gives a damn..
++Mugambe++ i prefer cla45 amg then a45 amg its mach better and faster because it has only 0.23 drag coficient, sorry for bad english
I drove the Rs3 and to spec it the same as my 45 i simply could not have afforded it. The seats, seating postion, steering wheel/feel/weight and brakes are far superior in the Mercedes. With adjustable dampers it rides better too for my taste. The box on the facelift will give downshifts at speed faster than the Audi so you don't have to over brake as much. The Rs3 feels slightly quicker and sound of the engine is better and yes is better built inside and out but is sooo bland. In the UK with all toys your getting near 60k for a hatchback that looks like a s line. The A45 is an event every time you drive it, don't understand why so many people hate on it all the time.
chris harris review just like i thought about the car...a ordinary person that love a automobile world, not a race driver, a journalist....bravo chris..
Two Thoughts
Way to go Merc smart move with the EVO being discontinued , cool car hope there a coupe.
Drive/ Chris could you do or have you done a review of each awd manufactures system pros and cons beyond each manufactures marketing hype?
Thanks
I've got an A45 with the Aero kit and 19" black 19 spoke AMG rim options. Had it almost a year now. It's a go-kart. The amount of grip is sensational & even more incredible in the wet. In Australia they are imported fully spec'ed with performance exhaust, all the gadgets, (comand, linguistic etc) and AMG Recaros (same as the video) for $78,000 on road. The aero kit and wheel upgrade is extra. For the money it's actually good value.
+toose70, Hi, toose70, would you mind sharing your experience with the A45 as a daily driver (I know that the new facelifted model has the adjustable dampers so it is slightly different)? Main questions; how refined is it in terms of cabin noise when driving in town and do you find it too harsh at low speed? Thanks a lot! gtiz52006
You have to remember the n55 engine is very capable for tuning.. you can get almost 400 horses with only a stage 1. Yes the a45 will get similar numbers... But personally I prefer a 6 cylinder.
Nope, wrong. Amg all the way.
@@Teamlastofuslmao denial pos
I think Chris Harris is the best reviewer of cars I've seen, very insightful, doesn't live by cliches. I DON'T think he'd be suitable for Top gear though, as they don't actually do serious car reviews anymore. They just fuck around. Can you imagine a Top Gear segment being full of information and insights like we saw in this review? I can't
For the most respected magazines the M135i became the benchmark in the compact hot hatches segment, Evo has choosen it in the short list for their car of the year 2012 contest, it even took part in the final short list of the exclusive six cars group (very impresive considering that the winner was the Pagani Huayra) Top Gear journalists has voted the M135i as the sportscar of the year. To the date, I don´t hear anything about the A45....
I hit the like button before the video even started. If Chris Harris is the host, its automatically Awesome!
A45 versus a well configured Golf R?
This man know how to do a remarkable review. Thanks man!
My cosuin has a M135i and that thing sounds awesome and pulls like hell! Although I massively like the AMG the sound is holding me back from loving it; I'm just not sold on it
DEar Chris and the team , what kind of cameras you use on board the cars ? is it the GOPRO HERO 3?
" You will say fuck me, thats a fast car" LMFAO
Nice job Mr. Harris.. love the short thought pauses during you're dialog. lol makes me think to. Lots of useful info,, I'm starting to come round, keep up the fine work, and above all drive careful. thanx.
I'll be honest, as a Merc fan I wouldn't be disappointed if the BMW won in this test done by Chris Harris. As far as I'm concerned, all the reviewers but him are soo biased by the RWD of the BMW's. So even though he preferred the AMG, I found Chris Harris much more objective than other so called "car reviews".
Most reviewers are car enthusiasts and most enthusiast drivers prefer RWD. As RWD drivetrains become more and more rare - particularly in this class and price bracket - you can understand the natural enthusiasm for the BMW's, last of a dying breed.
RWD behaves better at the limit. (regardless of brand)
where was the road section of video filmed? looked like a military range area, but looked a lot of fun to drive on!
Chris Harris for Top Gear?
lupinearsenalALT yup
Fucking regretting it now
Chris Does the best most informative video and you know he knows his stuff when you witness his driving skills!
"above testicle hight!"
Chris Harris is quite possibly the epicentre of the automotive review process. It's difficult for me to image life without his reviews, & even more so to recall my life before. In fact, when time travel is invented, I will strongly consider my access to these videos & my ability to replay them. Beyond that, I never have wanted to travel back further than indoor plumbing. Kinda need that. Perhaps there is a bookend in that statement. Chris Harris is as vital as indoor plumbing, the others? Poop
You need to make a new comparison of a45 and m140i made even xdrive)
This chap is brilliant at testing cars, top driver and explains it real well.
i had a ride in a cla45! he is right ''fuck me thats a fast car!!'' was my reaction
+needraintodrift I own the A45 and yes they are super super fast
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needraintodrift I just bought the 2017 last month.. my first reaction while my car dealer was driving "damn it's so fast, and why is he pushing my new Mercedes during break in" haha I didn't care about breaking in, I drove like I wanted it to be. Newer cars don't need as much break in as older ones
Randy R yes don't worry so much about breaking the car in but you do need to worry about the car's temperature. Dont floor it while it's still cold, let it run for at least 5 minutes. Congrats on your new car by the way I hope you enjoy it
needraintodrift yes you are right.. I'm more worried about cold temperatures than breaking in... the funny things is I drove my Mazda 3 hard during cold morning... because it gives me extra speed during cold... and it hasn't broken down since 70k miles. Strange
Chris a
Harris at his finest - eloquent & economical in delivery - superb
Nice conclusion.
"If you can buy the AMG then why not"
More people need to be this open minded and not be like "Don't buy this car because it costs X amount more even though it is X amount more expensive! BUY THE CHEAPER ONE!!!!"
If you could buy the more expensive and better one then why not?
I have no interest in these cars but still watched it because of Chris Harris
This is one of the videos that made me buy my M135i.
You mr. Chris are real profesional and i always liked waching you in every car. I think you are one of the little who are trying to do the best in so fun way!!! Funny and very serious about reviewing the cars!! And that skill of driving....omg..
Save the 7k and get an LSD and a JB4 on the M135 and you'll kill anything on the road
What's a JB4?
@@HadrienATF A scabby plug in remap box people buy when they get their car on finance and can't risk getting the car properly tuned.....imo ofc ;)
@@Ne1170 okay let's just stick with the LSD then lol
Awesome test as always!.. Chris Harris is the best.
I would pick the Mercedes, it looks better, more refined than the BMW
Fun when the AMG lifts an inside rear wheel… that part and the crackling on overrun, reminds me of the handling, stability and immense enjoyment of the superbly suspended Alfasud Ti of the early 1980’s :-)
I am flabbagastered that people spend £42,500 on a hatchback like the A45 AMG. Not just because of the high price, I mean I can totally see why a rich person spends £250,000 on a Rolls Royce or £200,000 on a Ferrari, but why £42K on an A45 AMG.. you can get an Audi A7 for that kind of money... or a Jaguar XF, or a slightly used BMW M3. Same applies to cars like the Renault Megane 275 or Golf R's that cost well over £30,000 I could never justify spending that amount on a hatchback.
As I had a M135i, let me Tell You why: yes you can get bigger and more prestigeous Cars for that Money. But you wont get the Same Level of Performance. I'd Rather have a A45 AMG then a A7 Diesel or a base E-Class. Also a used M3, which i considered as well, will cost you a Fortune to Insurance and Maintainance. The m135i is Rather Cheap in this regard.
Also You get very good Deals on new Cars, like Mercedes in Germany Give you a Cover all Insurance for 19,00€ a month with Leasing Right now, for The a45 AMG, Thats insane. A M4 in a very good Insurance Rating is like 250,00€ a month, just to Give u an idea.
Ultima893 Yes but both the Audi A7 and Jag XF are in completely different segments. e.g. I'd not put those in the same group as the A45 AMG when buying new. Likewise a lot of people also make the comparison to a used M3, the word being 'used' and not a new one (Which in the USA is some $15k+ more). Also in North America in winter the M3 is about a much use as a chocolate fireguard. An inch of snow and it would struggle. The AWD performance is appealing on the AMG for that reason.
Well done Cadillac for putting your commercials before practically every german-car reviewed video Chris Harris puts up.
Great review, be good to see the Golf R in the mix with them.
Great video, but why you didnt compare to the m135 xdrive or even mentioned it ?
Great review!
Chris Harris even recall the test he did in the Audi RS3, that was faster than the BMW 135i but the understeering killed all the fun...
In conclusion the A45 AMG is the best of the tree cars.
But I would like to ask to Chris Harris, if he read the comments, how he compare the A45AMG against a Mitsubishi EVO X.
Thanks!
Finally I manage to drive a A45AMG and I also had drove the EvoX, previous.
So... which is best... the A45AMG is better and a bit faster, of course, but not for much (when you are driving it you even notice... but the crono don't lie). But like Chris said in the video, with the EvoX you can over-steer (play with) it easialy and with the A45AMG you have to do the famouse Scandinavian flick. And for the price of the A45AMG, you can buy 2 used EvoX or buy 1 EvoX and tune it to "kill" the A45AMG and you still save a lot of money, for fuel! Or just buy a used Nissan GT-R, is better and simple!
But, maybe is my problem... but I didn't felt the torque in A45AMG... I think the BMW M135i should be more brute and urgent torque delivery, that is the next I must drive...
But I must say that the A45 AMG is one of the best fast cars that you can drive with tones of confidence one the road! The grip it gets from the road is almost endless! You feel like a professional driver when you are at the wheel and I believe that would be very difficult to pass it in a curvy road!
Alexandre Fernandes And the brakes. Oh my god. It's a heart in the mouth moment if you try an emergency stop :-) It certainly feels like a safe car at speed, even if not the most engaging.
Peter Cooper
The brakes are awesome! I had to break in a tight bend at 160Km/h and it stopped like a train in rails!
Alexandre Fernandes trains take ages to stop
Richard Hurr You miss the point... (rails)
Did you test the 135i xDrive ? maybe it can be a better comparaision to the AMG ?
You have to take into account the sort of roads you have available to you and your local weather conditions. For me, living in the UK and on the edge of the Peak District I think the A45 would be the much better car, lots of narrow, twisty lanes where 4wd traction and point-and-squirt torque from a blown motor comes into it's own.
refreshing review without the ego.Much better than top gear drivel.
I want that a45 amg engine in my 190e 2.3 16 body !!!
would love to have a few lines of chris comparing the a45 with the m135i xdrive. which 4wheel package is more fun in a daily driver?
All the comments are
'i'd choose the A45. It looks better'
It really shows why people buy cars nowadays.
the point is that I only wanna have fun, so... rwd all the way!
These M-Lites are such a laugh. I've had an M140i for coming up two years now, and it still makes me smile after 27,000 miles. I know it's not as quick as an A45 or an RS3, but it's still more than quick enough to get you locked up, and that "monumental engine wedged in a gawky little body" recipe has just never got boring for me. I normally get bored with cars after six months, but I still look forward to driving this as much as the day I got it. When the four cylinder AWD replacement comes next year, it's undoubtedly going to be more capable, and probably quicker, but it just won't be the same.
Brilliant review mate, spot on.
I think the A45 is a beauty, but 60.000 euros, sixty fucking thousand euros! Really?
just buy a normal a200 with amg bodykit, says cheapos..
or just get 370z because it's cheap to maintain
You can buy an used Nissan GT-R...
tavi is the good car men, understand?
It cost 173,000 euros from where im from. So yeah, sucks for me more.
this guy as the best job on earth. And I have to say, his videos are awesome
THUMBS UP FOR THE SLAYER SHIRT
Just traded my 2015/16 M135i LCI one of the most underrated BMWs ever it is one of the best cars I have ever owned. The last 10 months I added a BlueSpark tuning module and a K&N air filter for 273KW and 517NM … M2 performance. Only thing missing was X Drive as a bit difficult getting the most out of the power but a lot of fun trying.
2.55 he says the AMG steering is lifeless and rubbish, 13.18 he says it's weighty and he loves it. EH?!? Which is then?
one is on road, one is on a racetrack.
And what percentage of time will be spent on racetrack I wonder, among owners
domzbu If i were to have one, i would make weekly trips to the nürburgring ;) but, for the average driver, indeed not so much.
He says steering wheel itself at 2:55 not how well the cars steers. At that point in the vid, before the circuit analysis, he wouldn't be going into the steering performance yet. That early in the vid he was just going into the cosmetics.
Yet another wonderful review..
The way you review and deliver information, you should really be auditioning for top gear uk once the old chaps decide to retire. Superb reviewer.
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@@joshuaelliot2020!!
@@FK2VtecTurbo He got the Top Gear job 😉
very well expressed and you perfectly pointed out their character..was like an own test drive;)
please never stop making videos!!
Both two are good, but BMW has something that AMG will never have: BMW sound and power
You know that A45 nas 380hp, right?
His stupid. A45 is louder and more powerful
Impressive review of impressive cars. Both of them are lovely and so desirable...
Chris Harris, your comments and crits are just perfect.
Bmw all the way.
I've just ordered the 135i with the 8 speed box and some other specs but was advised to avoid the adaptive suspension. Can't wait. It's going to be a long 6 weeks waiting.
Its not a hatch but m235 won me!
I love that the Chris Harris has been getting longer videos!!
135i is my reasonable dream car
Just get the 140
Brilliant review well done Chris Harris
The M135i isn't even a full M car and it's almost as good as the full AMG 😂
asif naseri there isnt a "full" M car of the 1 series. so your point is?
Sinds when whant’s BMW no better car then Merc. So if they could they will do it. But its stops here for the
Jeffrey Tankink your spelling and grammar is all I need to know your opinions don't matter.
The fact you didn't spot the English language not being his native language, says enough about you as well. Back to the point, why would BMW have a half-assed go at something? If they could make a better car they probably would've, Mercedes won the Hot-hatch game, simple as that.
Andrew Kim so BMW isn’t bothered about making a ‘full on’ M1?... so you haven’t seen the 1M that BMW made in limited numbers a couple of years ago then?
BMW M135i ///M Power (Performance) is a MasterPiece
A REAL Engine 6 Cyl 320 Ch a beast ❤💘
Young can't compare these cars.
The Amg is a real amg, but the BMW isn't a real M.
Compare the M1 Coupé to the Amg45
Then it would be more like the 1 series M Coupe vs. the CLA45...
4:27 to 4:40
can someone explain what he meant about covering ground and that stuff ? i didnt get it
I am the BMW driver, but here I like the AMG more.
Bloody mad is Chris Harris at the wheel, bloody good too, just bloody.
I liked the amg merc but after a while i seen so many on the road that are just tdi with amg kit that the real deal amg just blends in too much now.
markmcc21 it should be easy to spot a real AMG... don't think they can copy the sound from the CLA45 to 250 ones
markmcc21 my 2017 has wings at the front, exclusively for the AMG
@@Gandalf721 ha ha so u think ppl dont buy a car and have posing or bragging rights in their list of tick boxs? Arnt u aware of the whole car modding scene? Car are all about an expression of urself. Car are like bikes and houses. U take pride in what u own. U appreciate what u worked hard for. Thats not showing off. It's sad that u feel that way. Sounds like ur the jealous type.
@@arelaththewhitewolf230 easy to spot? No. Easy to hear? Yes. A stock a45 has next to no visual clues that it's anymore special than a diesel version with amg pack. Same wheels bumpers etc. U need the aero kit for an a45 to stand out and resemble what its capable of. Some ppl like that some ppl dont. But my point is still valid that the a45 still looks almost the same as the diesel brother.
The Merc is just pricing itself a little too highly if I'm honest. I really enjoyed the video so thanks DRIVE for making it. Chris Harris is just a superstar in his reviewing. He really gives it thought and is just so much more precise than what we see on TV. I just feel bad that I don't get to see you guys on the big screen.
The Merc needs to come down. Couple of grand makes all the difference.
Mercedes 450 AMG has a 2liter turbo and compressor and vourwheeldrive! It accelerates faster and uses less fuel consumption. Also it has 2 more doors, making it more useable in daily life. And my last personal touch are the better looks of the Mercedes.
Why the video doesn't appear on the "Chris Harris on cars" playlist?
The bmw is nicer and more mature inside. The merc looked tacky and boy racer inside. I test drive both recently. The merc is aimed at trust fund boy racers the bmw suits all drivers inside and is less loud looking. It whips most cars on the road.
You have no clue at all
+YTNG MTT I actually agree with this maybe not the trust fund thing but I thought it was tacky with the iPad looking thing stuck on the dash just looked odd, don't like the clocks either and the driving position isn't as nice as the bmw. I bought an m135i over the amg even though it's not the quicker car....
Both sic cars, be good if the A45 came in manual tho but then i spose you wouldent get that crazy crack between shifts, does it do that in auto boxs because they shift so fast ????
Hit that like button by 1min 20.
Totally unbiased and great review. I personally think the Merc should start from £35000.
4:31-4:40 !lmfao! ggwp
CHRIS HARRIS FOR THE NEXT GENERATION OF TOP GEAR PRESENTERS!!!!!
RWD 4 life
BMW disagrees. M5 and m3 went AWD as well.
I remember when they used to make adverts of animals with huge front legs to mock FWD cars. Then a couple of years later they started making FWD 1 series
Thanks Chris..great cars and video..
Yeah correct! The A 45 is a little bit expensive but I guess you get twice the quality and you know it. The BMW M135 is rather ugly and it almost killed Jeremy Clarkson so a lot of reasons to hate it when it suddenly went side ways in rain conditions. I wouldn't buy one (sorry but it's ugly).
Yeah I don't like the look of the M135... don't worry you're not alone.
The BMW almost killed Jeremy Clarkson? You say that like it's a bad thing.....
***** Yeah I've seen it too...black with black rims...I really like the side lines....it really is a interesting car.....but then I saw the A 45 AMG black matte with black rims as well and I fell in love immediately.....Once again the M1 can't compete.....
***** perhaps.....
***** ammm I don't care
Thank you for this excellent video. I just wanna cry!
Oh to have the life where "being smug about having so much, for so little" where so little is £34k :(
Are either of these coming to America?