BMW M135i v Audi RS3: Road, Track, Drag-race. - /CHRIS HARRIS ON CARS

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  • @Alex-zi6ym
    @Alex-zi6ym 2 ปีที่แล้ว +76

    This is one of the most iconic pieces of auto journalism ever recorded. It’s truly inspired so many. We thank you Chris Harris

  • @15october91
    @15october91 6 ปีที่แล้ว +458

    Chris Harris is one of the main reasons why I bought my M135i.

  • @torogami2
    @torogami2 10 ปีที่แล้ว +969

    unfortunately, the bmw can't fit a nuclear warhead in the trunk.

    • @chaplin4522
      @chaplin4522 10 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      LOL

    • @mudgatebronn4438
      @mudgatebronn4438 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      whats why Trump is helping bmw to promote this car in North Korea

    • @beamerandthebeast3979
      @beamerandthebeast3979 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      Thats because BMW's are nuclear warheads...

    • @mraaaaaaa
      @mraaaaaaa 5 ปีที่แล้ว +37

      For all you knobheads that was a Top Gear reference

    • @gabrielbilandzija7725
      @gabrielbilandzija7725 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Mel dkmeneT

  • @NotTheMaestro
    @NotTheMaestro 11 ปีที่แล้ว +56

    I bought the M135i after watching this and it's bloody brilliant. It's perfectly capable of driving round town and doing the regular daily commute - something I do each day when I drive into the city to work. It's quiet, comfortable and the steering is very accurate and direct.
    You put your foot down at the lights and it leave all other (normal) cars standing.

  • @akozengna
    @akozengna 8 ปีที่แล้ว +115

    I had an RS3 2012 and I have the M135 with xdrive now (A must have in Sweden). You are so right Mr.Harris! The sound, quality of riding and again the sound, the symphony from 4-7k rpm is the deciding factor when choosing between these hothaches. It is addicting! I managed to get 4,4 to 100km/h (Not relevant I know). And as you say, I dont know what you want more for a car on the road.. It is more quit, more refine and modern than the RS3. Cruising on the highway i managed 8,1L/100km with the eco pro thingy and the gear just coasts as soon as it can reading the GPS information about the road, it is just high tech. The DSG on the Audi is good, but not as smooth in town as the ZF. I drove the M2 and it is mind blowing, but for everyday use the M135 is your car.. And people, stop crying about the 4WD, you can buy it with the xdrive, and it is amazing. And yes you can go sideways!

    • @mrkruger5108
      @mrkruger5108 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ako Zengna How is the xdrive from bmw compared to quattro. Which awd do you prefer?

    • @kylemandt527
      @kylemandt527 8 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Real AWD is always better then Haldex AWD(RS3 has Haldex). I have Haldex and it is good enough but I wish I had real full time AWD like in xDrive, real Quattro, Subies and the such.

    • @akozengna
      @akozengna 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      The xdrive is on another level. both are super stabil, but the xdrive is more fun, real easy to oversteer in snow (Sweden) in sport+. The Audi doesn't really want to oversteer, it just point and accelerate..

    • @GTRuppsala
      @GTRuppsala 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ako Zengna I bought an m135 last week, I'm from Uppsala Sweden, it should be nice talking to you...

    • @TheTranfan
      @TheTranfan 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      This is very good to know. I'm looking to buy one of those 2 cars.

  • @rafaellastracom6411
    @rafaellastracom6411 8 ปีที่แล้ว +66

    Mr. Harris, you are one hell of a driver BUT you are an even better commentator for such reviews. Very enjoyable at all levels. Good on you!

  • @rollintroll
    @rollintroll 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    After having just ordered the last of the M140i's a week before BMW stopped taking build orders, I had to come back and pay homage to this video that started it for many. I am just thankful that in 2019, I am lucky enough to taste this once in a generation gem of a bargain. Cannot wait.

  • @60degreev12
    @60degreev12 11 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    This is what I call a review. Full of *relevant* detail and great no-b.s., to the point delivery. I can watch a review by Chris Harris and mostly feel like I just took advantage of a no-limits, 6 hour test drive. I'm thankful guys like Chris Harris and this show exist. Now if I can be rich enough to first buy all the cars I want (and modify them appropriately) and get them reviewed by this show. :-)

  • @dellorto33
    @dellorto33 9 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    Great review! Good stuff for driving enthusiasts. I'm not a fan of BMWs but I can feel the pleasure he's getting from it as opposed to the 4wd machine. Also addressed the key point for anyone that loves to drive, open diff.

    • @Bmwguy2011
      @Bmwguy2011 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I was an Audi guy but after getting accustomed to bmw’s legendary In-line 6 there was no turning back. The 2 s4’s I had were phenomenal performers with the v6 twin turbo. But every seal, gasket and bushing needed replacing on either at around 130,000. We are talking like $8000 for a $11,000 car. I sold them and went Bmw n52 and frankly have had far less issues.

  • @adrianbunyard6015
    @adrianbunyard6015 3 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I bought a used high spec 135i because of this review... Its bloody awsome. Very fast, sounds amazing, actually not too awful on fuel and quite comfortable. My only complaint is I wish bmw would of made it look just slightly more special than the standard 1 series. That is the only complaint though. I drove an rs3 and it was really good but the bmw just makes you smile with its straight six screaming away. Just great.

    • @niklasmo-rhe9738
      @niklasmo-rhe9738 ปีที่แล้ว

      But look at the positive site of it looking similar to a regular 1series: you won’t get stopped by the cops too often. At least that’s my experience

  • @snodderz96
    @snodderz96 11 ปีที่แล้ว +62

    That 3 litre straight six sound

  • @alanderson9711
    @alanderson9711 8 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    After a year our BMW 135M conv. Has become the favorite. Streets or freeways, this little rocketship never fails. From ramp speed to 80 with a beautiful growl I'm always amazed at being so invisible. Small and Un-noticed it's like driving around in a Vulcan Bird of Prey in Stealth Mode.

    • @jameswhite1910
      @jameswhite1910 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      "Bird of Prey in Stealth Mode" - That is EXACTLY what it feels like :-D Keep out of sport mode and it is so quiet nobody even sees you... until you pass them.

  • @HondaSkyline369
    @HondaSkyline369 10 ปีที่แล้ว +44

    Great review Chris! It goes to show once again that even if a car looks better on paper, nothing can compare to how it drives, the feeling that all car lovers enjoy, fun. Straight 6 engine up front, RWD, that's the way mother nature intended. Also the BMW sounds excellent.

  • @drdj69
    @drdj69 6 ปีที่แล้ว +166

    sold my RS3 and bought the M140i .. im in love..

    • @audirs142
      @audirs142 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      drdj69 I’m thinking of buying an Rs3 after my S4 what’s the Rs3 like to drive day to day ?

    • @zevlibin8892
      @zevlibin8892 5 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      got mine 3 weeks ago! Still cant believe it

    • @ciprianchirilov1039
      @ciprianchirilov1039 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      I can only assume the m140i is even better than the m135i. Apart from the obvious increase in power they probably sorted out some of the few minuses they had with the 135i

    • @paullockwood7219
      @paullockwood7219 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Top man.

    • @jgelchaarify
      @jgelchaarify 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      What a loss... AWD is soo much better, downpipe headers, exhaust and tune and its overrr

  • @SlowJoe76
    @SlowJoe76 11 ปีที่แล้ว +267

    Why am I not surprised at the BMW is a better driving car

    • @DassRoc
      @DassRoc 6 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      because everyone has a dick up their arse when it comes to rear wheel drive

    • @szymondziedzia4468
      @szymondziedzia4468 6 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      DassRoc because its a proper wheel drive, awd is acceptable also (only the permanent one) but im sorry fwd belongs in shitboxes

    • @pzeus11
      @pzeus11 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Simply accelerate on a small curve without breaking until the very end of the curve, then one understands why a BMW is better than an Audi.
      It does not mean Audi is shit, but here are their limits..

    • @DassRoc
      @DassRoc 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@szymondziedzia4468 hence why BMW has plans for it right? lmao

    • @-daniss-4788
      @-daniss-4788 5 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Jose Audi is the beast

  • @iantownsend5480
    @iantownsend5480 9 ปีที่แล้ว +255

    People are forgetting the Audi is a RS product & the bmw is a sub M

    • @t2097at
      @t2097at 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      +Ian Townsend ...i wonderd if I'am the only one who noticed that. I've compared these cars, before ordering the m135i xdrive. there was a massive difference of ca. 15.000 € in austria. The RS3 is good, but it feels old, heavy, hard...and isn't the right car vor every day use.

    • @OGSiX33
      @OGSiX33 9 ปีที่แล้ว +31

      +Ian Townsend Who's "forgetting" that? Chris explained that in great detail.

    • @t2097at
      @t2097at 9 ปีที่แล้ว +45

      Every Audi owner ;)

    • @deepbluepete1193
      @deepbluepete1193 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      +t2097at Hahahaha...YUP! ;-D

    • @ChromeDonutGaming
      @ChromeDonutGaming 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      t2097at either way the rs3 engine has the head of a lambo

  • @jameswingrove7421
    @jameswingrove7421 8 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    All I'd like to see now, is a review for the new M140i.
    I know there won't be a massive difference, but I'm keen to see what improvements BMW has made.
    Mostly because I'm
    coming to the end of my apprenticeship, and want a nice hot hatch to celebrate, the M140i being at the top of the list.

  • @jimmyhayers
    @jimmyhayers 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I got a 16 plate M135i manual a month ago (replacing a 1.6 diesel Focus), I absolutely love it.

  • @thanasisconstantinou7442
    @thanasisconstantinou7442 10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    well done Mr Harris, a damn good, hot hatch comparison.Audi RS3 has the power but BMW is a real driver's car.

    • @neil5242
      @neil5242 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Except if you watch the video, the Beemer beats it in a straight line too. Granted, the Audi is quicker to 30, but that's about it.

    • @simonz5002
      @simonz5002 8 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@neil5242go ahead and tune that 5 cylinder and see which one has more power. RS3s are capable of reaching over 1000hp if tuned right. 5 cylinder also sounds a million times better.

  • @kjb8321
    @kjb8321 4 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I first watched this review back in early 2014 and very quickly acquired a build slot on a mineral grey M135i - still got it, longest I've ever owned a car and it still makes me smile even as a daily driver and work tool most of the time. Awesome little car and a great all rounder

    • @dragospahontu
      @dragospahontu 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      Its a cool car but 5cyl is interesting

    • @kjb8321
      @kjb8321 ปีที่แล้ว

      ​@@dragospahontu Agreed; fantastic engine in the RS3 (especially pre-PPF)

  • @9soo
    @9soo 10 ปีที่แล้ว +211

    Audi , the king of understeering.

    • @Markanaldo
      @Markanaldo 6 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      bmw the queen for going sideways looking for grip

    • @szymondziedzia4468
      @szymondziedzia4468 6 ปีที่แล้ว +50

      @@Markanaldo yea thats a lot better than understeering, and a lot more fun

    • @JeromeHattKronen1664
      @JeromeHattKronen1664 5 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      yep, just put a decent set of tyres on the front axle for the audi.

    • @stefanpetrov8
      @stefanpetrov8 5 ปีที่แล้ว +13

      @No you Nope. You can make an oversteery car understeer, but you can't make an understeery car oversteer if your life depended on it. I wonder why racing cars (such as F1 and GT3) use RWD... hmmm, that's a bit of a conundrum eh?

    • @stefanpetrov8
      @stefanpetrov8 5 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      @No you F1 is mid engined you fuckwit. Every other GT3 car apart from the Porsche is either front or mid engined. The AMG GT dominated the Blancpain series a while back. Are you on crack or are you just braindead? Learn the difference between RWD and rear-engined. The fact the engine is the back has nothing to do with them being faster. They're faster because the front wheels don't have to both provide thrust and turn at the same time like they do with FWD cars. Fucking muppet.

  • @xxxreptilianxxx
    @xxxreptilianxxx 11 ปีที่แล้ว +28

    Thing is the wheel-horsepower is probably actually greater for the BMW because of the RWD drivetrain loss vs the AWD drivetrain loss.

  • @johnevans6474
    @johnevans6474 3 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I never tire of watching this road test..........loved my 135i

  • @h1jjy
    @h1jjy ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I don’t think either car is a hot hatch and should be classed as hyper hatches. However after a few years of owning a 135 I think it should be classed as a mini GT car. The thing is phenomenal at covering huge distances quick and easy, when you want it to it will rip your face off, but most of the time commuting to work or having to cover a few hundred motorway it’s so nice to drive.

    • @surgedidit
      @surgedidit 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Very true. Can cruise around comfortably with Performance on tap when needed. Still have and love mine 👌

  • @DjNikGnashers
    @DjNikGnashers 4 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    This was one of the reviews which convinced me the M140i was the one for me.
    I haven't looked back since I bought it, well, only to see the cars I have just gapped.

    • @AndyfromSurrey
      @AndyfromSurrey 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I agree with you 100%. Love my M140i

    • @timkilvert3955
      @timkilvert3955 4 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Me to love my 140 practical, fast and cool

  • @CiscoPhipse
    @CiscoPhipse 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Brilliant Review!! Chris should be on top gear, a REAL enthusiast. Changed my mind completely about the Audi, it just looks nice.

    • @larsveldman2374
      @larsveldman2374 5 ปีที่แล้ว

      Do you regret saying this?

    • @travisfs7526
      @travisfs7526 4 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Luuk Ska he is the best thing to happen to top gear

  • @ONEKristaps
    @ONEKristaps 11 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Hey Chris, I just wanted to say thank You for your work on showing proper car tests. I'm just fan of cars and You rock!

  • @andreoliveirauk
    @andreoliveirauk 10 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    That is why i bought the m135i :) In the corners wohoo! Pure Fun

  • @Oraclemtx
    @Oraclemtx 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Hi Chris,
    A few pointers.. With the RS3 its best to swtich ESP off when engaging on a track, if you do this you will notice the understear you speak off isnt so apparent (im sure its mentioned in the Audi handbook!).
    The next thing is, sadly Audi have put dissapointing tyres on the RS3 which is a contributing factor to your experience. A must change amongst owners is to put Michelin Pilot Super Sport which provides a significant positive effect in handling and cornering.
    Although I love RWD personally, a 4WD car has a edge on A - B Roads.. it simply comes down to physics!

    • @ivorproblem1332
      @ivorproblem1332 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      Mr Harris needs no pointers from you or any of us. He tested the cars as you buy them not what you need to do to improve them.

    • @blackberrypriv3935
      @blackberrypriv3935 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      +Ivor Problem yes but he tested it incorrectly with esp on whilst on the track

    • @ivorproblem1332
      @ivorproblem1332 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      I very much doubt it was on when he was proper giving it some. It may have been on for some of the re takes etc. Why would a driver of his abilities require the esp on as it will hold him back.

  • @Jamo1098
    @Jamo1098 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I watched this video years ago when it came out, and just before I bought my m135i a few weeks ago, I watched it again and if sealed the deal. What a car btw...

  • @MrMrMaran
    @MrMrMaran 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I don't get the audi a3/rs3, is it a hatchback or wagon?

    • @davisdunlap7560
      @davisdunlap7560 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      MrMrMaran They're kinda the same thing, these days. Conventionally, a hatchback has 3 doors and a station wagon has 5, so you can think of a wagon as being based on a sedan and a hatchback as being based on a coupe, both with a hatched truck instead of the tradition trunklid.

  • @niel19861
    @niel19861 9 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    I am a big Audi fan but the RS3 is overrated. I would rather get the S3 or even the normal TFSI and tune it. The new one as it is already matches the straight line performance of the current RS3 so why waste all that money.

    • @77unknow77
      @77unknow77 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      yes you are correct but you get let weight in the front. i got A3 8v 2.0t with IS38, intake, s3 rear brakes suspension done and is a little faster that my friend s3 tune, we got the same mod the only different is the suspension.

    • @SarenaRose
      @SarenaRose 6 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      Agreed.. But the 5 pot sound is so much better than an S3

    • @GarrettGiuffre
      @GarrettGiuffre 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      i just want the 5 cylinder turbo. Forbidden fruit in the U.S market to recently

  • @princepietrom
    @princepietrom 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great review as always Mr. Harris

  • @chrissorreda4982
    @chrissorreda4982 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    3 kinds of enthusiasts: the one who wants to be the fastest, the one who wants to look the best, and the one that loves the drive. The S3 will attract the ones who want to be the fastest in the real world/straight line, M135i for the ones that love the drive, and the one who wants to look the best will go the stance route. Personally, I'm the M135i kind.

  • @WsG7
    @WsG7 11 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    BMW! thank you for listening.

  • @mcq2525
    @mcq2525 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Fast forward 10 years. Both cars are now selling at about the same price (where I live). Which is the better one to get, noting they're both 10 years old now (reliability will be the most important factor) and also a nice engine sound to lighten up the daily commute to work.

    • @Mo_R9
      @Mo_R9 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Wat did u choose then ?

    • @mcq2525
      @mcq2525 10 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Neither . Ended up with a Kia Stinger. 😂

    • @surgedidit
      @surgedidit 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@mcq2525😂

  • @jansch939
    @jansch939 11 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    i don't know whats wrong with you guys ?! Running around with your pink audi glasses..yes audi makes probably the best looking cars and there fast in a straight line...and yes the fast for people who don't know how to really drive, but this dude was a very good race driver. So he knows what he is speaking about. And if you really can drive and want to hit fast laps on a race track and want to have fun with the car bmw are yust the better choice !

  • @mikehudson77
    @mikehudson77 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Great review. Fallen in love with the 1 series

  • @cuckooman1234
    @cuckooman1234 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    This was the video that made me decide to buy an m135i, against a Golf r and an a45 at the time. 10 years later and I still love it!

  • @Markus666661
    @Markus666661 10 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    why do you compare the old model of the audi rs3 with the NEW of the bmw 135i ?!

    • @chriss2246
      @chriss2246 10 ปีที่แล้ว +9

      he has already answered your question in the video!! O.o do you understand what he says? if not, then it would be a pleasure for me to translate it for you...

    • @Markus666661
      @Markus666661 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ok translate pls

    • @karlos0955
      @karlos0955 10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Markus Meier It's clearly stated at the beginning of the video that he is aware that he is comparing an older RS3 to a new BMW but it's because it will be several years until the new model from out comes out in RS3 trim.

    • @Tautusian
      @Tautusian 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      why don't you listen?

    • @ayansheeraz9350
      @ayansheeraz9350 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      butthurt bmw lover thats why

  • @moviebod
    @moviebod 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Such a good review (as ever) I wish you would do a review of the Chrysler 300 SRT which is the other car on my next car list of two (the M135i being the other). Thanks Chris.

  • @rejoicerone3176
    @rejoicerone3176 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    "crickeyy understeering already!" perfectly sums up the RS3... that 5 cylinder engine is brilliant tho... same the chasis is joyless... this 5 cylinder engine plus the bmw rear wheel drive driving dynamics wud be a great package tho!

  • @M3Conv
    @M3Conv 12 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Having owned an S3 previously i know exactly what Chris is saying, the best engine and fourwheel drive system in the world will never make up for the misery that is understeer.
    The whole point of these cars is driver and involvement and having fun, understeer will ruin your experience and there is pretty much nothing which can cure that.

  • @mackdaddy4222
    @mackdaddy4222 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    drag race starts at 16:27

  • @MrRicardo361
    @MrRicardo361 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I love the old planes in the background on these videos. Is that some kind of air museum behind?

  • @RepsolHonda26
    @RepsolHonda26 10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The audi looks better than the bmw but by the sounds of it and how good this review is you are paying £40,000 for something that doesn't work properly... Sorry audi but I'd rather pay £29,995 for a bmw that looks okay sounds incredible (I don't care about it being fake) and works like a dream on the road, not hating on audi just my opinion, I'd rather have the m135i and save £10,000, who's with me on this?

  • @passe719
    @passe719 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    Have you used the launch control in the M135i at the start of the drag race? I could not identify it in the video

    • @redarmy1778
      @redarmy1778 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      not sure if this m135i has launch control, m135i dint get LC till summer 2013 and the improved n55 with 322 bhp, the m135i in this video is the 315 bhp engine

  • @Gk-kr5bi
    @Gk-kr5bi 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    BMW always wins in mid-range gears. BM4Life!

  • @brunotravelchannel
    @brunotravelchannel 11 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    so unbiased

  • @donbrashsux
    @donbrashsux 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Are the Bmws tail lights off a Morris Marina or similar..very stylish...

  • @markb3480
    @markb3480 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Personally felt frustrated when I first got the 8p rs3 on castle Combe circuit to compare it against a 8v s3 and a modified golf r All were making the same power to weight ratio and the only thing I could say about the rs3 in a positive way is that it can launch very well. And that’s it. The s3 is a similar feel to the rs3 but it’s not as frustrating to drive fast and the golf r is a much better car in every way.
    But if I was in the market for a fast capable car of this kind I’d get the m135i all day long. In fact I have had 3 of them myself

  • @LYNXHQ
    @LYNXHQ 8 ปีที่แล้ว +43

    When the rear of the Audi squats while launching..... Looks mental, great launch control but the BMW is the better car for me. #FiestaST #DicksOutForHarambe

  • @antyNLV
    @antyNLV 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    Chris, answer this if possible - I am getting a car in 6 months, and I am looking at the BMW 123d Coupe and the Toyota GT 86. I have been driving for some time now on a track, I was a cart racer, so I want my car to be very good on track and quite practical. I want to know what you think, is the 1 series back wobbly, and can it drift controllably without a limited slip diff, with DSC off? I know the GT86 is impressive, I drove 1, but its back seats are unusable and its too low. What do U suggest

  • @eeThial5
    @eeThial5 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Wow, that was a really great review! Thanks. :)

  • @Dgannt
    @Dgannt 10 ปีที่แล้ว +12

    The ultimate driving machine vs the ultimate transport machine.
    One is for people looking for driving pleasure the other for people looking for safe transports.

  • @neil5242
    @neil5242 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    This should be the go-to video for any Audi RS and S driver. Yes, yes- they're quick off the line, but after that, there's not much else they bring to the party; and a professional racing driver has just attested to this.
    Weirdly, I'm often told that fast BMWs can't handle- by fast Audi drivers. This video puts to bed the Audi RS v BMW M debate once and for all. All that power under the Audi's bonnet is useless if, every time you want to take a corner quickly, it understeers you towards the nearest wall/ hedge. Fast BMWs will, and always have been, for the drivers amongst us. If anyone wishes to disagree, get hold of both, go to the Llanberis Pass in North Wales, and report to me which is better. There is simply no contest. Fast Audis are for traffic light jockeys as that's the only place they retain the upper hand (although I suspect a similarly powered M3 Comp in 4wd would do a better job). I will never EVER sell my BMW M.

    • @neil5242
      @neil5242 ปีที่แล้ว

      Spot on. A big engine doesn't negate Audisteer.

  • @oki_m135i
    @oki_m135i ปีที่แล้ว +3

    As you stated for the car guys, the n54 and n55 will hold upwards of 600hp on stock turbos (n54) turbo (n55). In stock form BMW ticks the most boxes, now modify them then you'll see that they both are phenomenal 😉.
    I will say the audi exterior wise looks better but with a few m parts on the m135 the tables could change 😊
    Thansk for the video 📹

  • @GlossaME
    @GlossaME 10 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    BMW all the way! And, it doesn't matter what i think, or others like many bellow think, this is his feedback on the two cars. Hate it or love it, respect his opinion!

    • @JD-yh2yz
      @JD-yh2yz 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Yep. Guys lets all be honest, he knows more about cars than probably all of us, so he is the proper man to go to if you want all the car answers ;)

  • @Todd.T
    @Todd.T 5 ปีที่แล้ว

    Is Chris sitting on the microphone when he is in the BMW or is that how much racket the car makes causing the mic to mute?

  • @bobbyreamer
    @bobbyreamer 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Great review!

  • @lewispark4838
    @lewispark4838 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    To Audi enthusiasts in this comment session. You haven't driven both of them. Yes, i have driven it, BMW worked better for me. Yes, as you assumed i'm kind a BMW guy, but, still, BMW was much better. It has fun which audi doesn't, and Audi understeers so much. It would be great in motorway, but does it really gonna work on track or winding road? I doubt that. They could much better on this car. (I like rs6 more than m5. It sounds like angry tiger of something. And, m5 mad me disappointed. V8? I can deal with it, but it so much slower than amg or rs6. And it sounds giod but campare to amg or rs6, it not that good.) And now, recently audi put out brand new rs3. I haven't driven yet, and i'm looking forward to drive it and find out what they done.

    • @lewispark4838
      @lewispark4838 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sry bout grammar mistakes. I wrote this comment with my phine, i'm not get used to it yet.

  • @achosenman9376
    @achosenman9376 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love these comments re which is better. I've got a brand new RS3 sitting on the drive. I can buy what I want within reason. I stopped buying BMW's years ago. I don't drive on the track, I drive on the road. I don't have delusions of being a racing driver. The RS3 is my everyday car. It's far easier to live with than any track tool. The same goes with bikes. Track tools are fun for an hour, but after a day in the saddle with your wrists killing you, the fun wears off fast.

  • @systemfailure101
    @systemfailure101 10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    I am not an expert on cars, like Chris, but i think he is a bit biased on the m135i. And i don't really buy the drug race. I think it's a set up. I maybe wrong of course, but i have heard ssooo many times chris praising the bmw, that he is either on the money, or, it's suspicious.

    • @IraklisAvramakis
      @IraklisAvramakis 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Why dou think that drag race was suspicious?

    • @TheFlyingClutchman
      @TheFlyingClutchman 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Or maybe hes praising the BMW because it's actually better

  • @mczaf
    @mczaf 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    love to see the 2015 rs3 vs 135

  • @6noughts
    @6noughts 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Great review Chris. Look forward to seeing you on Top Gear again!

  • @drumnbass8
    @drumnbass8 3 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I have a m135i and occasionally just come back to this video, and then pull a Jeremy Clarkson smug face

  • @bwilliamblock
    @bwilliamblock 10 ปีที่แล้ว +34

    The bmw sounds proper!

  • @csopr
    @csopr 7 ปีที่แล้ว

    Bang on Chris. The new RS3 is unstoppable, but I love the way those 1 series Mcars drift.

  • @kaiwenli3432
    @kaiwenli3432 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Understeer Since 1987? Was it 1987...I dont remember. But be fair..I like the BMW more
    just the fact that BMW is RWD. But if I lived in like snow condition I would like the AWD version. I mean as a Jag owner either of the interior can be count as nice..so.....same to me. only thing if matters is the condition.
    on the other hand..M1 is the rival for RS3, not the M135i..imagine what is that gonna be

    • @dlevi67
      @dlevi67 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      The M1 does not exist... unless you refer to the 1981 M1, which is a bit of a different thing from an RS3 (or an M135i, for that matter)

    • @kaiwenli3432
      @kaiwenli3432 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      dlevi67 well..it does , but it is not out yet. In the shithole USA, the 1 series is the 2 series and we dont get the hatch back but its bascially the same. so 135i is 235i ..and the M2 is coming out next year. which is going to be the M1 in Europe I suppose.

    • @MrColincas
      @MrColincas 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kevin Li
      Kevin my friend. If this car understeers on tarmac road, then it sure as hell is going to understeer on snow too. Unless you are going to drive it in a straight line ONLY there is no point of ever wasting money on ANY Audi! You need a AWD car then you will be astonished what SUBARU IMPREZA WRX STI or MITSUBISHI LANCER EVO IX can do for just about the same amount of money as the M135i and you are actually going to drive them with a smile on your face. And you are right. The new M2 (2016) is the proper competitor for the RS3 .....not this 135i. And as far as i know it's going to have the same engine 3.0l 6cyl.Turbo pushing 380hp. so the RS3 would have to shut down production to save themselves the embarrassment. lol

    • @kaiwenli3432
      @kaiwenli3432 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Colin Cas oh ..NO NO NO ..But only if u pushed too hard on snow..On snow I'll just drive slowly. Although RWD can be use on snow but you have to be extra careful. AWD is gonna be more relaxed on the snow. and you r right...I'll use my money to buy a EVO X or Subaru and use the rest to tune it.

    • @kaiwenli3432
      @kaiwenli3432 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Colin Cas and be fair I dont like BMW that much its just ...TOO BMW...and I got a Mercedes C63 with Black Series body kit.lol..100% not for snow..

  • @tyhutson6558
    @tyhutson6558 9 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    I just wish the rs3 sportback was available in the U.S. :(

    • @mofine23
      @mofine23 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      +Ty Hutson just import it

    • @SparkySlow
      @SparkySlow 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      and expect to pay 10k more because UE you lucky bastards have cheap cars

    • @mofine23
      @mofine23 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      with respect Europe makes the best cars. bragging and pride aside

    • @ninobrown3221
      @ninobrown3221 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm a german and for me the sedan is looking much better. Krazy

  • @Xzizia92
    @Xzizia92 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can someone please tell me why the lights on the cars (the audi at 12:09) are blinking?

    • @gokselxgoksel
      @gokselxgoksel 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      They arent blinking but when u record led lights with a camera it looks like it does.

  • @jacobwarren3023
    @jacobwarren3023 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    although he beamer is ugly, i wouldn't say the rs3 is beautiful. the rs3 is a bit faster but for 10k less you can have a much better drivers car

  • @BFD15i
    @BFD15i 9 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    The most important sentence of the whole video is the last one:
    You buy the Audi for the looks but if you like driving, go and buy the BMW.
    From what I can see here in Germany, that's the (bitter?) truth.

  • @TheIrocboy
    @TheIrocboy 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    sounds great. mine comes with leather and xenons as standard, could not go back to a non xenon car. do you feel like you need to floor it every time you drive it? i have had no points on my license for the 11 years i have been driving, but i can see that changing! ha ha

  • @Bazgti250
    @Bazgti250 4 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Interesting, I have an RS3 8p and my neighbour has the 135i. I use mine every day, in all weathers and is just a nice car to drive and be stuck in on my daily commute. He uses his when he can get it off our very hilly housing estate and there's no ice or snow (In northern England, theres always a chance) The 135 is better when you want to drive like a bellend, the RS, i think is better for every day. Ive put a stage 1 APR remap and a 034 motorsport rear anti roll bar and PS4S's on mine. Eradicates most of the issues mentioned here with handling. I had a Mk6 Golf R previously, which i preferred to drive with DCC suspension pack but the engine and sound of that 5 pot is spectacular and a work of art. Each to their own, would never want to own a 135 personally and prefer Audi as a brand over BMW every day of the week.

  • @Osprey1994
    @Osprey1994 11 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I love a nice hot hatch and the M135i is now runner up to replace my GTI in the future

    • @etma01
      @etma01 11 ปีที่แล้ว

      Whats in first place? Having a nightmare making this decision myself!!

    • @hocly22
      @hocly22 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jan Aike 135? 135i BMW? ofc the GTI looks better than those, not an M135i though.

    • @Osprey1994
      @Osprey1994 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Golf R is currently in first place for replacing my GTI

  • @bastian9653
    @bastian9653 7 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    it would have be interesting to compare xdrive 135 with rs3

  • @DEVANC4VETTE
    @DEVANC4VETTE 11 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Just watching your re-runs Chris because you aren't on /Drive this week. Re-runs better than no runs.

  • @Xboxlove1
    @Xboxlove1 11 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    ill take both please

  • @TheIrocboy
    @TheIrocboy 11 ปีที่แล้ว

    all i went for was the adaptive m suspension, sat nav and auto gearbox. what did you have on yours? i have a lease car at the moment so i have to wait until march as the lease is not up until then. the good thing is that i will be on a uk "14" plate. how many miles do you get out of a tank? lol

  • @rafaellastracom6411
    @rafaellastracom6411 8 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    LSD differential is a must at that price. Nevertheless, the BMW looks good.

    • @saucysimpson259
      @saucysimpson259 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      Doesnt need one at all

    • @hellobooom
      @hellobooom 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it does, but it's not that expensive to install.

    • @paulmistro94
      @paulmistro94 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      looks good:/
      this is the ugliest
      yet best hatch back on the road

  • @aethelsteadtheunsteady450
    @aethelsteadtheunsteady450 6 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The launch on Quattoro Audis is pretty damn impressive though!

  • @Bryannevillemusic
    @Bryannevillemusic 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I'll take the better handling car any day over one with a little more power... #bmw ;)

  • @dsal9640
    @dsal9640 8 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    im slowly becoming less of an audi fan because of how boring/soul-less, heavy, understeery they are.. bmw m2 has completely won me over

  • @all_that_gazz
    @all_that_gazz 11 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thanks for such a cracking review. Considering I was looking at the S3 (not RS3) vs the M135i (mainly due to cost) it has become a no brainer now.

  • @Wojciech940
    @Wojciech940 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    People don`t like Audi`s as they are in VAG group and most likely that car shares some parts with Skoda or Golf. If we were talking about a car for a reason price, it`s okay, but those cars are crazy-ass hothatches.
    On top of that, Audi is more expensive than BMW. INSANE.
    If it would be me to choose 2 cars, I will go for BMW. Twice.

    • @markking0692
      @markking0692 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      but then lamborgini are apart of the vw group aswell because audi bought lamborgini so audi and lamborgini also share parts

  • @nathantag1
    @nathantag1 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    I was going to go test drive a 128i....than I decided to get a real car. The 135i is a beast of a little car.

  • @grahamek86
    @grahamek86 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Haven't been through all the comments, so this might not be new. You started off talking about 6 piston front brakes, then ended on how the 4 piston front brakes work. What was it to be ?

  • @jashsdn
    @jashsdn 6 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This guy could actually relaunch top gear and turn it into something watchable again (my opinion).

  • @Disinf3ctant
    @Disinf3ctant 9 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    Audis are driven by ostentatious college grads with a bit of money and no real knowledge of cars. At least thats the case in Australia.

    • @sirwilliam0722
      @sirwilliam0722 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      That's not the case. Think about it, college grads with a 'bit' of money? A bit? Can this 'bit' of money get a similar bmw? And if your case is the case, they must be from wealthy family and very likely to have or had many cars before they buy Audi.

    • @Disinf3ctant
      @Disinf3ctant 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Ziyao Wen The pay is good here. Most people can save $60k from a normal job. Makes it all the more easier with a degree and your first office job.

    • @Disinf3ctant
      @Disinf3ctant 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ***** All living costs adjusted for you still get more money here than you would in the states. Theres still so much money left over after paying bills, of course theres traps like the $5 coffees, $30 T shirts and $25 cocktails designed to take that spare cash away from you but if you stay your impulses you could have an Audi TT with a small loan in no time.

    • @thesh1ttygamer960
      @thesh1ttygamer960 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      +Disinf3ctant $60k from a normal job? Seriously? I work about 60hrs a week and went home with a tad over 50k after tax. Snap out of it.

    • @Disinf3ctant
      @Disinf3ctant 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      IDriveAHeap OfSH1T No no no no, I didn't say ear 60k, I said save. You can afford this car.

  • @staggabob
    @staggabob 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    Can any M135i owners explain how he's adjusting those settings @7:12? Because in 2 years I've never found those options. Yes, I have adaptive!
    (I'm just reading a forum thread about it- it seems odd that it's so well hidden)

  • @AndyDoubleU
    @AndyDoubleU 10 ปีที่แล้ว +123

    The presenter is clearly a BMW lover and probably driver...

    • @dln.sweeney
      @dln.sweeney 10 ปีที่แล้ว +79

      He actually owns an RS6 and an E30 rally car.

    • @Pablosammy1
      @Pablosammy1 10 ปีที่แล้ว +150

      And you're clearly an Audi fanboy who can't face the truth...

    • @AndyDoubleU
      @AndyDoubleU 10 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Sam King Oh wow, rage much? Was just an observation... Grow up.

    • @Pablosammy1
      @Pablosammy1 10 ปีที่แล้ว +49

      Entertainment4U Hang on, you're the one who posted the first provocative comment, I merely responded. Still feeling sensitive from the bad verdict for the RS3?

    • @AndyDoubleU
      @AndyDoubleU 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sam King How can that be provocative? You're the one taking the time to answer me back... I have my own verdict because I've driven both of those cars.

  • @teunisswart8236
    @teunisswart8236 9 ปีที่แล้ว +15

    A VW Golf R handles better than the Audi RS3 around a track. The Golf has better handling and steering.

    • @Irishluckily
      @Irishluckily 8 ปีที่แล้ว

      same parts ..

    • @saucysimpson259
      @saucysimpson259 8 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      +Anthony Rs Yeah but the golf has a shorter wheelbase and a much more forgiving chassis

    • @donbrashsux
      @donbrashsux 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The Golf R is a hidden little monster which thrives on tight to open mountainous roads...in the wet it just waves good bye..

  • @djfld2394
    @djfld2394 6 ปีที่แล้ว

    The only thing that lets the 135i down for me is no xdrive. Was it even available on UK cars? With xdrive that would of beaten the RS3's 0-60 time. I have an A3 Quattro and looking to get an xdrive 1 series because the Haldex Quattro is disappointing. It understeers a lot and can only shift up to 50% of the power to the rear axle and is 95% fwd bias

  • @1SuperTempest
    @1SuperTempest 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    Of course you caught the Audi when you hit 160, it's limited to 155 and you failed to mention that! I'm so confused by the comparisons in this video for the following reasons:
    There is no mention of the horrid cabin noise coming from the BMW, and you say the Audi doesn't win in any category except all weather. From what you say earlier though it seems like you love the Audi transmission and engine much more.
    My personal reason for liking the Audi more is purely perception. The lower line BMW's just seem juvenile to me and they don't make me feel special.

  • @bigboigruff4570
    @bigboigruff4570 11 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Even if the Bimmer was as expensive as that crap id choose the Bimmer, and i am sure Chris would too.

    • @RepairDotcom
      @RepairDotcom 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      bmw for life... :)

  • @gunnarelisigurjonsson2587
    @gunnarelisigurjonsson2587 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That chicane said it all.
    But was always worried about the bmw in snow

  • @ImGugzHD
    @ImGugzHD 10 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    M135i is not a Proper M car that world be the 1M... but its as good as ;)
    M135i - Audi S3
    M1 - Audi RS3

  • @sterlo53ify
    @sterlo53ify 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    good on you Harris you just prove audi are shit track racing car. you prove bmw is more fun to drive and beats audi rs3 at top end

  • @biib248
    @biib248 9 ปีที่แล้ว

    If on 17:05 was the scene of overtaking rs3 from it you can see RPM slow down not shifted in higher gear....