Audi S3 vs BMW M135i | evo TRACK BATTLE

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  • Jethro compares the Audi S3 against the BMW M135i on track at Bedford Autodrome.
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  • @minityper
    @minityper 10 ปีที่แล้ว +29

    That engine in the BMW, its amazing.

  • @IsiahHD
    @IsiahHD 10 ปีที่แล้ว +37

    The Audi quilted leather seats are the best on the market. Audi's may not necessarily be the best cars, but those leather seats are top-notch.

    • @Pablosammy1
      @Pablosammy1 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Fair enough, they are a bit nice! The rest of the car is super dull though

    • @IsiahHD
      @IsiahHD 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      But was it necessary to come into MY comment in all caps to tell me this? As far as I'm concerned, you were acting hostile.

    • @yuntong1995
      @yuntong1995 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ***** still better than bmw seats:)

    • @julienjjj
      @julienjjj 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      I'm just really disapointed that you can't get them with the perforated leather that has cool air blowing throught. My E-class has that and I wont get any other car without them. Nothing like a cool seat on a hot day !

    • @amapolishplummer
      @amapolishplummer 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Those seats are a reason to buy the car in itself....
      JUST LOOK AT THEM!

  • @Aless_Cnz
    @Aless_Cnz 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    I'm actually surprised the Audi got that close despite the power gap, and it surely looked much more fun than Audi usually are

  • @NZsarge1
    @NZsarge1 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    @ Sam King (sorry I for some reason I can't respond to your comment as per usual). Modern tech in these motors does make small turboed engines pretty drivable without out doubt but neither of these companies are lacking on the tech front, power and torque figures may be similar but a 2 litre four will probably never have the 'grunt' of an equally modern 3 litre turbo six, the driver here pointed out that that the Audi's motor struggled against a bigger capacity engine with two more cylinders and I reiterate that the Audi came close with only 2/3 the capacity I think is very good. By the way the state off tune of the Audi is not what I'd call highly strung, the AMG 2 litre four is getting there though..

  • @Dgannt
    @Dgannt 10 ปีที่แล้ว +46

    This S3 is brand new while the M135i is old and will be replaced next year. I think the engine placement in Audi will always hurt them. Every time you open the hood of any Audi car (not R8) you will see almost the entire engine in front of the front axle. And the AWD just magnifies the problem, what he calls the push in the corners.
    Understeer has always been a legendary part of all Audi cars thanks to the faulty engine placement. It's like a reversed 911. I have started to look at cars differently. Any front engine car with the front wheels close to the windshield means big overhang and a lot of the engine in the wrong place, just like Audi. Audi makes great cars but for transport in comfort and luxury, not driving dynamics.

    • @davidmitchell5638
      @davidmitchell5638 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      yeah but go and explain that to Audi fanboy!! btw R8 is pretty much a murcielago with Audi design and $100k less which is good!

    • @ivanmico1
      @ivanmico1 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      David MuscleGuy you meant Gallardo with Audi desgn?

    • @ivanmico1
      @ivanmico1 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      it is not old and not gonna be replaced soon, cos the second gen 1 series started its life only 2 years ago

    • @davidmitchell5638
      @davidmitchell5638 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ivan Mico i think he was talking about 135i hatch back not coupe! and yes it's not old.

    • @parismalaspinas2488
      @parismalaspinas2488 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Actualy the bmw is not that old, it's a 2012 model and they won't replace it next year..if i had to choose id take the bmw hands down..

  • @jermainerobinson7098
    @jermainerobinson7098 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The S3 is more practical and looks better you can’t go sideways in the real world that’s the difference when Carkson dose a review he always goes by living with it in the real world as well as how good it is on the track. The real world is more important.

  • @velhisv5929
    @velhisv5929 10 ปีที่แล้ว +24

    Really surpriced with the driving charasteristics of the S3. Great to see an audi that isn't completely an understeering pig when driving fast. Still, I'd take the M135i over the audi any day. It has character.

  • @yvesx4x
    @yvesx4x 10 ปีที่แล้ว +36

    Everybody saying Audi rs3 should take on BMW M135i is talkin bullshit, if you would compare a rs3 you have to take the new M2 and everybody knows BMW will ruinin the Audi again..

    • @derbigpr500
      @derbigpr500 10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      Let's see the 135i ruin the S3 on a real road that's not perfectly level, flat and dry....e.g. any road in the real world. Not to mention S3 has room for 5 people and a big boot, and a much nicer interior.

    • @royalstevep68
      @royalstevep68 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      derbigpr500
      1st corner and the m135i will be in a hedge

    • @n9athan
      @n9athan 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      sp royals Other way around, you can thank front biased AWD understeer when you find yourself facing the pole you're going to hit.

    • @yvesx4x
      @yvesx4x 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      derbigpr500 If you just need a big boot and room for 5 people why would you than consider to buy an S3, just buy an A3 its why cheaper and same dumb car. Isn't the point of these sportive hatchbacks to have fun? Just by watchin' the video you can see the fun and drivin' part is much beter in the BMW.

    • @roozbehbey
      @roozbehbey 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      sp royals You won't even be able to see the bmw when it rains , and if you wanna have a comparison the A1 QUATTRO will murder this overrated ugly piece of junk.

  • @syedomarnorth2561
    @syedomarnorth2561 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Fuck the M135i,I know its RWD and has a beautiful inline 6 engine.But you can't resist the S3 excellent engineering,wonderful styling and now that it has a proper sense of humour with its Lift of oversteer.Well done Audi👏 do the same with the RS3 and it'll wipe blood of the Beamers eyes haha.

  • @SPMNDK89
    @SPMNDK89 10 ปีที่แล้ว +16

    Why does Europe have a smarter customer base? Where there is demand, there will be supply. So the fact that there is no supply of M135i in USA means not enough American demand. Which is a pity, because I fancy this little sweetheart of a hatchback more than the M235i coupe. The M235i may be more stylish but it's hardly cooler.

    • @Dgannt
      @Dgannt 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Would these small cars have a big enough market in US? Most of the time I hear the hot hatchbacks are too small and expensive for what they offer, that you could get a Mustang, Camaro or many other US cars for less and more hp.

    • @davidmitchell5638
      @davidmitchell5638 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      all of you are wrong, no a lot of people want to buy hot hatches in the US the reason they're not for sale is the price to compete with and yes Europe buy these cars cause of their tiny roads for easy parking or so...yes if you want one so badly you can find some way how to bring one here but i see no point since 70% of cars in Europe are hatch back??? not to mention we have so many hot hatches in here like Fiesta ST...it's the same thing there do you see big pickup trucks? or muscle cars that everyone goes crazy when they see one!!

    • @Dgannt
      @Dgannt 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      David MuscleGuy
      It's not so much the tiny roads as the smaller engines and better handling. The average engine in a truck or muscle car has so far been around 5L or bigger. The new once have smaller engines since they are going to be soled globally. The big engines makes them very expensive in Europe since taxes also depends on engine size. US cars that are much cheaper than their European counter parts in US cost often the same or very close here in Europe. No most bang for your buck here, no sir.

    • @dreray4077
      @dreray4077 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      bezor Ta Who are you kidding? A C7 Stingray here in Germany fully loaded is as much as a bog standard Cayman S, A fully C6 ZO6 was less then a base Carrera Non S, A GT500 was always less then an M3,, To say there no bang for the buck in Europe, Is completely wrong, They may not be AS much, But you simply cannot get better performance and Power for the price of an American car in any European country, To even get colse, You would need a GTR. Well atleast not the most well known.

    • @kraenk12
      @kraenk12 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Drake Switzer That's true...Still noone would buy a Corvette for that money since only pimps drive them and they look way to immature.

  • @ACOUPER100
    @ACOUPER100 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    A lot of comments suggesting a test between the RS3 and the M135i. Chris harris tested the old RS3 against an M135i which makes for a useful comparison. The RS3 appears to be significantly beaten in that video. A good test for the future would be the new RS3 against an LSD equipped M135i. The BMW might not be the best looker but it has really broken the mould by producing a dynamically sound and powerful RWD hot hatch.

  • @clivereid
    @clivereid 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If the M135i can do this without the proper LSD, imagine it with one!
    Kudos to Audi for making an effort with the handling though!

  • @cben86
    @cben86 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    track fun > track time. Great review though. Jethro knows his stuff.

  • @lucazanoni9168
    @lucazanoni9168 10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Where the hell Tiff Needel is??? In any case good job Jethro

  • @davecom3
    @davecom3 10 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    "The Audi's got more than composure on its side..." *Audi under steers out of shot.

    • @mikemayers9353
      @mikemayers9353 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Under steering is easier to manage and predict than over steer so he was right

    • @DavidMassieux
      @DavidMassieux 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@mikemayers9353 especially when the road gets tighter, as most roads are one lane only and quite narrow in Europe. Oversteer would make the car far less trustworthy, whereas understeer can be dulled down with earlier braking.

    • @mikemayers9353
      @mikemayers9353 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@DavidMassieux i like rwd but i would not daily it if i were heavy on the foot . Ive seen morons in the mountains quite literally hit the damn mountain overtaking and the turbo comming on boost when they flicked the car so it went bye bye . And i have seen idiots plowing straight off the road with a renault because they forgot that it had 3 pedals

    • @1993j
      @1993j 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@DavidMassieux So you're saying taking your foot from the accelerator and bringing the back end in controllably is more dangerous than a FWD bias S3 gunning it into a corner, turning the wheels and just sliding straight forward with no control? 🥴 That is what happens when you push a car that is powered mostly by it's turning wheels.

    • @DavidMassieux
      @DavidMassieux 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@1993j i did not say that, you're inventing parameters that suit your narrative. Have fun with that.

  • @sveeny
    @sveeny 7 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    The level of hate and fanboyism in this comment section is astounding. I think both cars are cool and both have their right to exist. It's great to have a choice.

    • @lewisratford2908
      @lewisratford2908 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      I owned a m135i and it was brilliant for the cash. I now have an S3 ( hence why I’m looking at old videos ) and it’s just brilliant too. Both Different but equally great. Fan boy Car culture is just so dumb.

    • @sveeny
      @sveeny 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@lewisratford2908 Actually, three years after this comment I own both of these cars :-D Well, at least close. I have a tuned S3 8V with approx 400hp and I have a BMW M2 with manual gearbox. Both are great cars in their own right. The S3 is a superb everyday car and the M2 just gets me emotional each and every time I drive it.

    • @lewisratford2908
      @lewisratford2908 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sveeny That’s a pretty good garage you have there. I drove an M2 comp for 10 laps on a track day at Bedford and loved it. I really wanted one, but alas was out of my price range. I think you’ve summed up the cars perfectly. I also find the S3 in the damp and cold an absolute weapon compared to all my other 2 wheel drive purchases over the years. I guess it’s a great all rounder but you can’t have everything - meaning a fully exciting car in the dry. All these cars have their strengths. Will keep the S3 standard for now. 400 bhp though sounds brilliant.

    • @sveeny
      @sveeny 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@lewisratford2908 Thanks mate :-) Yeah, the S3 is pretty quick. It does 3.67 from 0-100 measured with GPS. The BMW feels comparably powerful although being not as quick due to RWD and manual gearbox. But I don't really care. The experience of driving this RWD/manual car combined with the noise it makes with the old N55 engine and an almost straight pipe exhaust system is absolutely brilliant. Have never craved for more power at all. I could do a tune but I don't really feel like it. So maybe at some point you could consider the regular M2 if that fits your budget a little better. In my opinion it's absolutely brilliant and it even works as an everyday car. I have used it even in winter on snow and ice before I bought the S3. Works tip top (not as good as the Audi, admittedly :-)

    • @lewisratford2908
      @lewisratford2908 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@sveeny Awesome 😎 amazing how fast we can get these cars now. I used to crave an escort cosworth when I was 18, but can get that performance now in a fiesta or bmw diesel. Shame that the roads now are so bloody crowded.

  • @carsaregood911
    @carsaregood911 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    JETHRO!! Finally!

  • @GethinJames
    @GethinJames 10 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    The Audi is so much nicer looking. The interior is just gorgeous! Look at those seats!

  • @IAmSkip94
    @IAmSkip94 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    This comparison reminds me of last weeks Top Gear episode.

  • @danielgeesealves
    @danielgeesealves 4 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    BMW M135i F20 is a Munich "MasterPiece"
    😍😎

    • @shiv135
      @shiv135 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      It's mental mate, very underrated definitely makes more than 316hp as well

  • @9ogt
    @9ogt 10 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Just love the way that M135i sounds. Looking forward to the M235i with an LSD!

  • @Mr-RP
    @Mr-RP 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Jethro, nice review. Potentially looking at shifting my beloved 2007 manual S5 for one of these. I've test drove both cars in 5 door and both automatic. Both cars felt equally as fast if not faster than my S5! The Audi has a more upright seating position and it felt posh inside with the pop up 'ipad' in the dashboard and the usual Audi trendy interior. The transmission was incredible as well along with the 'farting' changing gear noise (sounds better in real life). I feel the S3 will be more useful and practical for me in Scotland with the weather. However, there is no getting away from it... the BMW is by far the funner car for the back roads! You should of seen the girlfriends face on the test drive in that! haha! Incredible performance and felt faster than the S3 and sounded insanely good! Fantastic ergonomics in the cabin and I seriously feel BMW has won me over this time round. The BMW certainly won my heart but I reckon the S3 may be the wise, best, boring decision for me...?However, my 2007 S5 is the better looking car than both of these and has the V8 drama for the B road blasts up in the Scottish mountains. It's seriously a 50/50 of which one i will choose. Automatic has won me over now as well as the manual would just slow even the best drivers in the world down! too much going on! Plus the auto's are more economic in these 2 amazing cars which is an excuse to convince your mates that its worthy....? Thanks.

  • @Sean-ek8wc
    @Sean-ek8wc 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Cheaper sounds better , faster round a track more fun , insane power gains from a few modifications , what else could you want

  • @peterdonoghue8161
    @peterdonoghue8161 3 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    7 years on and I've just chopped my s3 in for an m135i, here goes...

  • @simonhutton4430
    @simonhutton4430 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wicked review Evo. Quality quality quality. I'd watch any Evo feature. Great Journalist.

  • @rogefedwon
    @rogefedwon 10 ปีที่แล้ว +19

    He keeps complaining about the 'lack of power' in the Audi. It's only 16 horsepower down for god sake man..

    • @Tommy-BB
      @Tommy-BB 6 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      You don’t understand engines at all really do you?

    • @nikeelm
      @nikeelm 5 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      power delivery and the differences between RWD and Quattro can be very different ... more different than 16 hp . but i still love the way the s3 looks and feels on the road.

    • @shiv135
      @shiv135 4 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@nikeelm Good point, the M135i actually makes close to 330hp stock that's why the power gap is large

  • @yourfast07
    @yourfast07 10 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Both are great cars no question there, and both are in 40k range and that means I can only have one, or should I say most of us, and my next car will be S3 just because i can live with it no matter what nature throws at me, (unless it's a tsunami ) exterior and interior on S3 looks a lot better then bmw, yes it's only 2.0t but with simple ecu tune this car can get 0-60 in 3.7 second and 1/4 in 12.1 . But even stock it's just more then enough for everyday machine that will put smile on your face every time you drive it.

    • @Fishphers
      @Fishphers 9 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      I mean I love the BMW and all.... but the S3 really is the car that I could stand living with.

    • @1061shrink1061
      @1061shrink1061 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      yourfast07 for me it would be the golf R over the S3. It's (IMHO) better looking, and has a more luxurious feeling interior. It's set up almost identically to the S3, but comes with much much more standard kit, for less money. You don't even get cruise control on a standard S3, the Golf comes with radar adaptive cruise for free!

  • @calvin9999999999
    @calvin9999999999 9 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    But the M135i has a much big engine in comparison to the S3. M135i has a straight six, 3,000cc turbo engine. S3 has a V4 2,000cc turbo. So the M135i has a 1,000cc more and two extra cylinders. M135i also comes with xDrive (4wd) now.
    Pit it against the RS3 and it would be a different story.

    • @Bowhuntingskills
      @Bowhuntingskills 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      But they are roughly equivalent in price which is the crucial thing. Plus it's only 20hp up so who gives two shits what the engine size is?

    • @timothymountain7868
      @timothymountain7868 8 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      pit the rs3 against the 2m lol

    • @lukemilla9359
      @lukemilla9359 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      The rs3 would wet on the bm and still has a smaller engine 😆

    • @jordandavies6847
      @jordandavies6847 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      seriously dude, I'm biased to no car I love my bmw and audi all the same but a golf R does not touch an rs3 in any single way at all, if you believe it does you don't know cars or you are biased to golf which probably means you love taking the D

  • @ThisIsMTH
    @ThisIsMTH 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Really fancy the S3, you know. M235i is a gem though!

  • @TheAquarpio
    @TheAquarpio 10 ปีที่แล้ว +32

    a bit not fair to S3 , M135 against to A45AMG and S3 is a level lower , slightly. wait for the RS3 and have anther the battle again

    • @loomx63
      @loomx63 10 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      Its the exact right competitor S = M-Performance Range, RS = M. A3 = 1 Series.

    • @weed46
      @weed46 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      We wait for the RS3, you wait for the M2

    • @BradMarchandtheSlewFooter
      @BradMarchandtheSlewFooter 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Jonny Oliveira RS3 concept 0-60= 3.5 seconds 😏

    • @weed46
      @weed46 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      ***** Enjoy the drag strip... I live in Europe, i have something called "CONERS"... pretty fun

    • @seandavidson1969
      @seandavidson1969 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      matthew deng Chris Harris tested M135i and RS3, bmw was faster.

  • @timol125
    @timol125 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why don't we just all like cars, buy the ones that we like best and stop arguing like 5 year old's? Both cars are good, to each his own.

  • @joetidman565
    @joetidman565 10 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Now do it again in the wet, in drizzle, in the cold or on crappy roads and we'll see that 1 sec advantage reversed...

  • @DjNikGnashers
    @DjNikGnashers 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    6 years later, watching this after just coming back from a hoon in my remapped M140i, which pulls away from RS3's :-))

    • @henrikmagnussen1658
      @henrikmagnussen1658 3 ปีที่แล้ว

      Just bought a M135i myself with a manual box, and still managed to take an RS3 to gapplebees.

  • @marcbentel4129
    @marcbentel4129 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Id say the Audi does pretty well considering the power and toque differences

  • @etonthompson5175
    @etonthompson5175 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Disappointing that the Audi was slower than 1.1 sec. But I agree. The S3 and Golf GTi are essentially the same car. However Audis add luxury and tecnology to the driving experience.

    • @manisbho
      @manisbho 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      The Golf GTI has 230/240 bhp and the S3 300?? They certainly arent the same car especially seeing as everyone here seems to be quipping about 16bhp difference between the 1 series and the S3 per the video above!

  • @MANTRAKKK
    @MANTRAKKK 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    this bmw was in the top gear show last week

  • @zhanglin317
    @zhanglin317 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    LOve the "BM"s exhaust note.

  • @iantownsend5480
    @iantownsend5480 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Watching the S3 go round the track there is your new Golf R, just a different badge & cheaper & better

  • @NICKFOXTV
    @NICKFOXTV 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Love the S3, took a video of mine against an Impreza wrx on my channel!

  • @KopaszJack
    @KopaszJack 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The answer is always Miata/MX-5

  • @15october91
    @15october91 6 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The M135i is an amazing car!

  • @sissach1
    @sissach1 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    The reviewer went automatic in the Beemer and Manual in the S3. I demand a re-race with cross over (i.e. manual mode in Beemer and Auto in S3) to eliminate any bias :-D

  • @_dan_here_
    @_dan_here_ 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The S3 used to be an icon of a car. From the outside it looks like a TDI with some extra bits added on. Ok, the RS3 might now do what the S3 did but such a shame it has been shuffled down in looks and performance.

    • @costellobf
      @costellobf 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Shuffled down in performance? 0 to 60 in 4.8 says quick to me. You're a Porsche driver I take it?

    • @_dan_here_
      @_dan_here_ 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      I drive an Audi S3 actually. I was hoping to purchase the next S3 in the line up but not keen on the styling - looks no different to a TDI with a kit. The performance box is ticked just fine, looks need to improve

  • @djtripd
    @djtripd 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    First off the BMW was driven in automatic mode and the Audi's lap was done by the presenter using the paddles. Who's to say he was taking advantage of the best gears? So already the comparison is not fair.
    Second, if your going to review two different cars don't go on about the BMW for more then half the video and then crap on the other car for a minute and run the lap. I knew the BMW was going to win from the start cause the presenter would shut up about the M135i.

  • @steventhoseby
    @steventhoseby 9 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    I don't care if the BMW is quicker, it has looks only a mother could love, is made with what looks like very cheap plastic inside and will not be confidence inspiring in the winter. For me, Audi every time!

  • @MrWindmad
    @MrWindmad 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Brilliant review. Jethro is fantastic.

  • @M4rkmcc21
    @M4rkmcc21 8 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    Make that track slightly damp or wet and we will have a totally different story. In the UK esp up north its pretty much 75% we gona have rain!

    • @jordyhunting3977
      @jordyhunting3977 7 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Get xdrive, if it is available in your country

  • @mcdick
    @mcdick 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I think Audi has gone a bit wrong way with the overall styling.
    When A3 first came in '03 it was striking and different. Now they've copied the same look to every model (except R8) and it's not fresh anymore. Freshness has turned into ikea-like feel. Something is wrong if car enthusiast cannot detect model from any front quater. Worst is the TT. It used to be really different, but now it just looks boring.
    BMW is gone from dynamically great to mediocre. Especially steering in the 1 series is atrocity. It has virtually no real feel (especially on ice) and the it has weird rubbery quality. 3-series much better, but still not very good in that matter. Something is gone seriously wrong if X1 seems to have best steering feel in the sub 60k€ BMW cathegory.

  • @3enl0
    @3enl0 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Jethro you LENEND!! Great review.

  • @royalstevep68
    @royalstevep68 10 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    Driving sideways on a uk road = death, not fun

  • @eddiejones1728
    @eddiejones1728 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Why don't they use the m135 xdrive all BMW s can now come as 4wheel drive would make a great review

    • @charskin
      @charskin 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Not available in the UK.

  • @mohammedsamara1753
    @mohammedsamara1753 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    the bmw m135i is better than rs3 what do u expect the m135i vs S3 u answer !?

    • @Fishphers
      @Fishphers 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      m135i better than rs3?
      LOL

  • @R13AAD
    @R13AAD 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Does the s3 not cut off the boost for a few seconds when left foot braking?

  • @markrhoden68
    @markrhoden68 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Is this helpful to those who wish to purchase these cars, what I mean is are any of us ever going to take these cars anywhere near their limits?
    So I wonder what's the relevance of these video's

  • @marcosconejero3691
    @marcosconejero3691 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's the BMW rwd?
    I think that one its 4wd.
    I was driving that one in Spain in one Michelin day it was amazing car traction controllers off amazing sensations.

  • @Cur8or88
    @Cur8or88 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Isn't there a 3 door S3?

  • @TSracer1
    @TSracer1 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    M135I beats new S3. (this review)
    M135I beats old RS3 (Chris Harris review)
    M2 vs new RS3 should be the next comparison. I know where Im putting my money.
    But you gotta wonder. How would the "old" M135I do vs the upcoming RS3. :p

  • @SilverWave64
    @SilverWave64 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    BMW!

  • @HeavyLikesSandwich
    @HeavyLikesSandwich 10 ปีที่แล้ว +70

    The Audi looks so much more better than the BMW. It's just beautiful.

    • @Pablosammy1
      @Pablosammy1 10 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      It looks like the plain frumpy girl from school, with a massive spot on its chin... how is it beautiful?

    • @kraenk12
      @kraenk12 10 ปีที่แล้ว +18

      Sam King actually everything looks beautiful compared to the 1 series.

    • @jbjbjfjefhefefhiehi1
      @jbjbjfjefhefefhiehi1 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      kraenk12 How dare you sir, BMW is beautiful, each car audi makes has looked exactly the same for the past 10 years, BMW puts in a lot more work when they're designing their cars

    • @roozbehbey
      @roozbehbey 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Kushi son that BMW is absolutely disgusting to look at , did i hurt your feelings son? get yourself a tissue and cry on.

    • @kraenk12
      @kraenk12 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      Kushi son You clearly have no idea about the real efforts which are put in good design.

  • @Alindegaard
    @Alindegaard 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could be fun to compare the 135 against a 135 xdrive 2 wd vs4 wd

  • @meady200
    @meady200 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Excellent vid more like this please!

  • @ivarmarkusson382
    @ivarmarkusson382 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    he is not copy-ing chris harris, they did videos together under the name drivers republic, this in one of the few that is actually as good as chris harris.

  • @jacoblee4451
    @jacoblee4451 10 ปีที่แล้ว +27

    That BMW is a fucking eyesore

  • @richard1717
    @richard1717 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Why not the RS3?

    • @Pablosammy1
      @Pablosammy1 10 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Because the RS3 costs £40k. The S3 is the M135i's competitor. The M2 will be the RS3's rival.

    • @tonicdb
      @tonicdb 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Sam King
      we've got the same name!

    • @jamoy666
      @jamoy666 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      RS3 is no longer in production

    • @JoeAchilles1
      @JoeAchilles1 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The old wobbly RS3 went out of production a while ago… New one due next year!

  • @andreacaucino927
    @andreacaucino927 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I think that for a perfect valutation was taken the S3 3doors vs a m135 3doors. S3 Sportback is more heavier and therefore considered hp gap not so fair for a duel.

  • @LongbranchOlivetti
    @LongbranchOlivetti 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Isn't the RS3 more comparable to the M135i?

    • @Wositsch
      @Wositsch 10 ปีที่แล้ว +19

      Audi RS = BMW M
      Audi S (S3) = BMW M performance (M135i)

  • @zhbroder
    @zhbroder 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    every linked video at the end goes to the same URL.. all to the same video

  • @Kenyon712
    @Kenyon712 10 ปีที่แล้ว +53

    If you like the Audi, why not just get a VW Golf, GTI? Why pay premium for a VW? A BMW is a BMW.

    • @Bleeding_Titanium
      @Bleeding_Titanium 10 ปีที่แล้ว +35

      What a stupid comment !!! then why people buy Lamborghini, Bugatti, Porsche, Bentley or any damn car that VW owns ?! you are such a blind fan boy, I'm an Audi fan and I like BMW but you are totally lost it man. Ferrari owned by Fiat that makes Ferrari a Fiat ? and if tomorrow some company bought BMW you'll start hating BMW ? why so many stupid people here on TH-cam are acting like they are in a fucking war ? but I think bmw fans are getting more and more stupid day after day.

    • @Kenyon712
      @Kenyon712 10 ปีที่แล้ว +11

      VW purchased those established brands. Audis are created from Jettas, Passats, Golfs, Polos, Touregs, and Tiguans. Buy the VW and use the savings to visit BMW headquarters and museum in Germany. You won't regret it.

    • @Augustus222
      @Augustus222 10 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Kenyon Guillory
      They share technology but are definitely not created from them.

    • @rage12345678
      @rage12345678 10 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      Kenyon Guillory Apart from the TT, Audis haven't shared a VW platform in over 10 years now.

    • @jamsbong
      @jamsbong 10 ปีที่แล้ว +7

      GTi = FWD. Audi S3 = AWD. Facepalm! Can't believe you made that comment.

  • @jennyfromjapan
    @jennyfromjapan 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    @MikeRelvasR8 so what will audi face off against bmw's 1m or m2?? you guys are talking as tho the rs4 should battle the 335i's and not the m3's???

  • @HesteBremse
    @HesteBremse 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I like both BMW and AUDI - But should the S3 not have been a 2 door version against the M135 ?. Secondary I am rather surprised about the AUDI being lighter than the BMW while it has 4WD - thats quite some progression in lightweight for AUDI or lack off the same for BMW (is it the 6 liner that adds weight to the Bimmer? Anybody). In my life right now I would take the BMW, but if I had kids I would take the AUDI.

  • @Neil100
    @Neil100 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    How many people will be taking their cars to the track in the next year?.............

  • @Mystyfication
    @Mystyfication 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Don't like the way last BMWs look from the outside... Interiors used to have some better times too in the past, however they do go fast, and faster then the rivals, I have to admit

  • @hawaraceworld
    @hawaraceworld 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    3liter 6 cylinder twin turbo vs 2liters 4 cylinder single turbo. you should campare bmw m1 vs rs3 or compare how much gas it spent for this distance on track.

  • @sjonhigh
    @sjonhigh 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Never get that 1 lap comparison thing. Drive 10 laps in a row per car. Tke the average time and the quickest time. Then it will show more of the cars potential. But also the drivers potential, because when the laptimes in the same car differ too much (and normally it will, only pro's drive the exact same laptime over and over again) you might be aware that 1 lap comparison is load of horses**t. And no, not an Audi fan, BMW in every single vain.

  • @laweezemorton8884
    @laweezemorton8884 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have to take a BM.. I hope it's this fun

  • @timszeto297
    @timszeto297 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Proof of an exciting future M2 from BMW

  • @Ysatt
    @Ysatt 10 ปีที่แล้ว +20

    M135i:
    comfort, originality style, clear steer, balance, fun, 6 inline pure sound, seat & saloon ergonomics
    audi s3:
    not comfort, vw, not clear steer, not balance. not fun, sound from dinamics amplifier,
    featureless design

    • @Fishphers
      @Fishphers 9 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      You sound like a fanboy

  • @bricksbybrothers6967
    @bricksbybrothers6967 5 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Would have bought a M135 if it wasn’t so ugly! Loving my S3. Style and performance. Golf’s are for boy racers....

    • @pgr3290
      @pgr3290 3 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      The S3 is incredibly dull without a single interesting feature. The BMW has a world class six cylinder powerplant that sounds like music. In 10 years the S3 will be another old Audi, but the BMW will be an eternal hot hatch classic because of the engine alone.

  • @ricklyon2833
    @ricklyon2833 10 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    So with 30hp more, and more appropriately matched against the RS3, the M135i only won by 1.1sec? Not bad S3.

  • @rejoicerone3176
    @rejoicerone3176 6 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    So basically buy the M135i and fit an LSD and job done!

  • @eicjc
    @eicjc 10 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    More Bov is only a good thing!

  • @charlesoakman7949
    @charlesoakman7949 9 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    3dr M135i vs S3 sportback (5dr - heavier than 3 dr)..... Fair test. Naaawwwt 👎🏻

    • @seandavidson1969
      @seandavidson1969 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Charles Oakman Audi has 4WD Bmw only has RWD

  • @plopperator
    @plopperator 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    shouldn't they be using an rs3?

    • @scotttopo
      @scotttopo 8 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      no m135i and s3 are same price range

    • @scotttopo
      @scotttopo 8 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      no m135i and s3 are same price range

  • @TietjenIsLegend
    @TietjenIsLegend 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Best British name I've ever heard in my life

  • @jmmpdfdg
    @jmmpdfdg 7 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    Why are all review's of this M135i against 4wheel drive cars... You reviewer's do know that you can get the M135i in xDrive right? Why not compare the M135i xDrive agains all of these all wheel drive cars?
    I just cant get it .. :/

  • @oddities-whatnot
    @oddities-whatnot 9 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    4 wheel drive anyday.

    • @mudgatebronn4438
      @mudgatebronn4438 6 ปีที่แล้ว

      Ernie Flannel me too. Which is why I'd get the M135 with xdrive

  • @CarlosOrtiz-oo7kq
    @CarlosOrtiz-oo7kq 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Those guys that prefer Audi S3 Vs BMWM135i don't know about high performance sports cars.
    Audi is an inexpensive fast ligth body with not weight balanced car but far to be compared to a monster like M135i.

  • @SurfMatt999
    @SurfMatt999 10 ปีที่แล้ว +11

    Nicer seats, looks "better?" Do any of you actually drive or are you all 15? An M135i spanks the S3 in all the important areas, the main one being a far better engine (or don't engines matter?). 10k miles in ours and couldn't be happier.

    • @SurfMatt999
      @SurfMatt999 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Sorry but the M135i is amazing on fuel; mid 35mpg on a fast 300 mile trip, 30 across Europe going very fast.
      You can also tune an M135i easily...
      So a better engine, better build quality (recent VAG quality is poor; we have a very troublesome VW California too), more fun RWD and a much better ride quality.

    • @SurfMatt999
      @SurfMatt999 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Sorry but the M135i is amazing on fuel; mid 35mpg on a fast 300 mile trip, 30 across Europe going very fast.
      You can also tune an M135i easily...
      So a better engine, better build quality (recent VAG quality is poor; we have a very troublesome VW California too), more fun RWD and a much better ride quality.

    • @SurfMatt999
      @SurfMatt999 9 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      Blimey do I need to spell out why a six pot is better? Here you go then. Peak torque comes in at 1300rpm, way lower than any four pot. The engine IS better on fuel in the real World, it sounds FAR better, it revs higher. A tuning box will get 360+bhp if that's your idea of fun but standard the M135i is a proper, fast mini GT, the S3 and R are just hotted up hatches with nothing to distinguish them from the lower models. Four pot engines are dull, even when tuned to death. They are only allowed in mad lightweight cars like Caterhams.

    • @SurfMatt999
      @SurfMatt999 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I OWN the car in question.You simply READ about them. My work is done, goodbye.

    • @350gtrs
      @350gtrs 9 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      BMW's suck son n I've driven both your ugly crap handling car and the new S3 n the new Audi is far beyond better looking handed a lot better n it's by far reliable, I went on 3 Rally's in my friends S3 all three were in far cities m never gave up. Now with 22k miles n honestly no issues, wait till you drive your Broke Mans Wish (BMW) a little longer n it start to have issues. That's 100% common for BMW's enjoy it.,

  • @cienzod
    @cienzod 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Left foot braking in an Audi??? They're notorious for cutting the fuel the moment you touch the brakes...have they had a rethink then??

  • @Formulozza1
    @Formulozza1 8 ปีที่แล้ว

    should've been RS3 vs M135i, this isn't a fair comparison at all. Testament to the S3 it kept up.

  • @LeontariF1
    @LeontariF1 3 ปีที่แล้ว

    Audi has better handling in wet climates and snow and BMW on dry

  • @markmahood2019
    @markmahood2019 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    not sure why people say the bm is ugly. The Audi is just disgusting. Second hand values of the m135i are below £25k now. next year should be sub £20k, then they become a superb bargain. 0-60 in 4.9 seconds! yes please.
    Golf GTI looks better than the Audi.

    • @Fishphers
      @Fishphers 9 ปีที่แล้ว

      Too bad the m135i doesn't exist over here in the states :/

  • @FredrikRengren
    @FredrikRengren 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    Could not get your hands on a xdrive??

  • @jennyfromjapan
    @jennyfromjapan 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    @idh0530 i personally hate the quilted seats...either reminds me of the 70's or toilet paper

  • @jbjbjfjefhefefhiehi1
    @jbjbjfjefhefefhiehi1 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    what test track or airport runway is this?

    • @jamesdmiller
      @jamesdmiller 10 ปีที่แล้ว

      It tells you in the description......

  • @Goncalopb
    @Goncalopb 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    the bm is ugly as hell and the S3's only sporty looking thing is the exhausts. i'd have the a45 amg in a heartbeat or the m235i

  • @brucec43
    @brucec43 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    "doesn't have the urgency of the BM" ROFL

  • @edge160
    @edge160 10 ปีที่แล้ว

    No demand in America because we like to sit taller in our huge suvs/trucks.

  • @teonesterov9141
    @teonesterov9141 10 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    135i is very good but I think it is the ugliest BMW after that 2002 7-series.

  • @TRHamza
    @TRHamza 8 ปีที่แล้ว +18

    The fact he's smiling more in the S3 says it all really

    • @PilotSuperSport
      @PilotSuperSport 8 ปีที่แล้ว +20

      Which is weird because the S3 is utterly boring to drive. Nobody buys an Audi because their fun to drive, the M135i is much more exciting to drive.

    • @PilotSuperSport
      @PilotSuperSport 8 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      +Handsome it's a great car, no doubt.

    • @gianton33
      @gianton33 6 ปีที่แล้ว +6

      Nice! Such a good deal for the other guy :)

    • @kingchooet9966
      @kingchooet9966 6 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Handsome you didn't.