1UP vs KUAT NV 2.0 | Best Bike Rack? | Tesla Model Y
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- เผยแพร่เมื่อ 2 ก.ค. 2024
- I'd say on the market, the top bike rack that's often discussed as being the best are the 1UP USA and the KUAT NV 2.0 bike rack. I go over my thoughts on the two bike racks and talk about which one is the best.
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0:00 Intro
0:18 Attaching to Hitch
0:51 Loading/Unloading Bike
2:02 Locking & Operation
4:49 Fit, Finish & Form Factor
6:00 Final Thoughts - กีฬา
Good review. I own both, even the same colorway. My Kuat is a 4 tray and the 1Up is two. Kuat definitely looks cleaner it's parts are easier to move around. That said, the 1UP is not cheaply made and it win every time when it comes to transporting multiple MTB. This is solely based on the brilliant product design and engineering of the elevated trays. Not only that, with a rack arm for each wheel, there is a little horizontal adjustments that can be made with bike to help so the bikes fit in without touching. The problem I had with the Kuat and MTB is the because all the trays were on the same plane and all locked in at the same point, I found that I would have to loosen handlebars and rotate them just to fit all the bikes on. I find road bikes work well with the KUAT rack. Lastly, with the 1UP, one doesn't need to push the rack that far into the hitch.
My Thule failed when a plastic part just disintegrated after years of use, not from sun damage. Cost me a wheel and other damage to my bike when it fell between rack and car while driving. I use 1Up now. Takes a minute to get used to loading and unloading but it’s built for long term use.
Great comprehensive review.
Much appreciated
This was really helpful. Get a hitch on our Y and was looking at these two along with the Thule Pro XT.
really well done video! I went with the 1-Up... MYP arriving in the next few days. Looking forward to finally having the option to travel with my e-Bike!
Good review. My riding buddy replaced his Kuat with the 1up. The plastic parts started wearing out from sun and the rattling was unnerving on bumpy fire roads to the trail head. It looks like your 1Up is brand new. After a while you'll notice the 1UP gets easier to use. I also had some of the same complaints about the ratchet mechanism getting stuck. Now, after less than a year of use, it's buttery smooth. Here's a tip, when mounting the bike, leave one of the tire uprights close to where you normally have it, then on the other side open it all the way and you can just roll the bike to secure it. The friction on the tire will hold the bike in place. I have also found the clearance issue when I had it mounted to my Subaru Legacy GT bumper. I pulled the rack out of the receiver just enough to clear it. I leave it mounted all the time. Oh the add-ons were not mentioned but you'll be able to add up to two more bikes to the rack if necessary.
My Thule failed when a plastic part just disintegrated after years of use, not from sun damage. Cost me a wheel and other damage to my bike when it fell between rack and car while driving.
Forgot to add the license plate holder and brake lights accessory for those that want those types of upgrades.
I had my 1up order set to go until I saw your review. Thanks for the insight!
Thanks for this, super helpful info!
Thanks for the info! Please take care of that beautiful Tesla!!
0:25 The 1up has a slit instead of a hole for mounting the hitch. So that allows some flexibility. The 1up handles heavier bikes (ebike usage) and longer wheelbase bikes.
Buying the NV. Thanks!
Thanks. I have a kuat rack and a reservation. For the model Y with the hitch
I just got the 1up superduty rack and love it. Money well spent, this is the best review out chere on both!!! (I did get the release handle as well and that makes all the difference in dropping and raising the rack)
I was look for just this comparison. Since I am going the 4 bike route I think I will be going with kuat. 90% sure 🤷🏼
Very good review, on 2 of the better bike racks out there, own 2 KUATS, and always need a bit of ratchet strapping to keep downhill bikes in place while travelling up service roads after chair lifts shut down, for some late season downhill thrashing. Searching for a rack to eliminate need for strapping. Can't speak for 1up, though customer service at KUAT is 9+ out of 10!
THANKS FOR SHOWING 1UP EXTERNAL LOCK BIKE THEFT IS CRAZY HERE IN NORCALI
I did like your comparison. Felt very practical and honest. Thank you.
Kuat for me ! Nice review!
I have 2 ebikes and purchased 1up double rack in 2017. We use it every weekend and driven from NorCal to SoCal. Our heavy ebikes stayed in tack. Out of the box it was ready to use. No assembly required.
Any recommendations on e-bikes? Looks like it’s been couple years hoping for a long term review @funventure825
I've had my KUAT NV 2.0 since January 2106...8.5 years ago. I have no way to know if it's better than any other rack because it's the only one I've ever owned. It's been on the back of a Toyota Highlander all that time and it's been cross country more than once. Today, minus a few user-inflicted scratches, it looks AND functions as good as the day I bought it. It may weigh a few pounds more than others, but I like it for that. It just feels SOLID. I've never had any quality issues with the rack, but when I have contacted KUAT with questions, or a need for a replacement hitch pin lock (that I failed to engage), someone got back to me in less than a day. Again, I'm sure there are other great racks available, but if I ever need a second one it will be a KUAT. I can't imagine the one I have ever needing replacement. It's that bullet-proof.
Should compare it with the Equip D model
Just FYI - throw the cable through the frame. The way you have it on the kuat someone could take you’re rear wheel off and the cable would slip right off.
Thank you for the great review. I had the Thule in my cart ready to check out and this swayed my decision to the Kuat.
Glad I could help!
Have you tried QuikrStuff Quik Rack mach 2? It looks like an improved version of the 1Up rack. I went with the Quik Rack because of 120lbs capacity for each tray for the 2" hitch size. Ebikes seemed to be getting heavier compared to lighter with each generation.
I love the 1Up, it’s amazing for long MTB road trips but damn it’s quite expensive but can’t complain
About its sturdiness
Biggest complaint after 2 yrs or owning Kuat is you will bottom out if not cautious. I own a Rav4 and probably not a problem in taller car/truck
Good review, I have a model Y and the 1 Up rack. How does the loaded rack effect your range with Model Y?
No one seems to show how to load up a bike with fenders
Great review, if you had to haul 4 bicycles which rack would be best? I realize this review is for 2 bicycles
I have a model Y also the clearance was a good heads up. Maybe look into an extension
Kuat. Customer service is outstanding.
The 1up Rack can handle up to 225 lbs but the Kuat is limited to 120 lbs of bike load. Inexpensive to add hitch extenders which are available in 4, 7, 8, 12, 14, 18 inch lengths. The 1up design allows for adding a third or even a fourth bike mount and not exceed the load capacity of the rack which is not the case with the Kuat unless using it for bike weighing less than 30 lbs as with road bicycles.
Good to know 👍🏻
Wondering if you can back up to a supercharger with 2 bikes on the rack? Also, does the rear camera work ok with bikes or with rack folded up?
What about if you have fenders?
1up works real if you have a fender on the bike. Especially a MTB front fender.
Did you have trouble fitting the locking pin from the Kuat in the Model Y hitch? I couldn’t get it to fit in my model Y because there wasn’t enough room.
I just purchased the kuat nv 2.0. I've seen tons of video on 1up but availability was scarce. The kuat is really simple to use and looks very refined and manufactured with high end tech process. Majority of the material is aluminum but there are certain smaller parts that are made of metal alloy subject to rusting. The best part is that they are replaceable and the parts are very affordable. In contrast, 1up looks like it has been put together in a home shop (just my opinion not saying that it looks bad) and the replacement parts on their website seemed more on the pricier side.
I agree, the more I use the 1Up, the more i miss the Kuat. 1UP is just very mechanical and raw. I'm a little concerned about the long term reliability on the wheel locking arm's teeth. They seem to rub off metal a little every time you open/close the arms.
I still really like how low profile the 1UP is though. It takes so much less space in the garage. Even when it's on my car, I don't have to pull into the garage as much as the Kuat.
@@DCPROJEKT Totally agree. This is my #1 concern with the 1UP. I am hauling 2 e-bikes and 2 regular bikes. The e-bikes are heavy and the long-term reliability on the wheel-locking arm's teeth MUST BE 100% solid. The 1UP did not pass the test for me. At the moment, I am using the Kuat NV2.0 with Add-On. Super happy with it. It's not even an option for me to pick the 1UP given my use case. Thanks!
@@DCPROJEKT I wouldn't worry too much about the teeth. 1Up has a lifetime warranty against defects and breakage under normal use. They definitely stand behind the product. Where as... "The Kuat Warranty does not cover normal wear and tear, scratches, cosmetic oxidation, accidents, illegal
vehicle operation or unauthorized repairs or modifications"
@@benjaminabrahamovich4707 the problem with that is there's a lot of people online who say 1UP tries to make excuses and get out of warranty claims. It sounds like a struggle to get it fixed under warranty.
Which model is your 1UP in this review - Super Duty Double or Equip D Double. Thank you for the review.
Super duty double
i've had the Kuat, and Thule's high end rack. they are great. the problem comes in time. they wear and degrade much faster and with road grime, etc. the smoothness is shortlived and they become sloppy and eventually, need replacement. especially if you live in the north.
Yes I went with 1 up for this same reason my old Yakima creaked and made me super uncomfortable it’s a bike on it went with the 1 up and so far after a while no creaks, feels solid built and honestly wiping it down with a microfiber cloth solves all my problems.
A 2" hitch receiver will have its load capacity reduced by 50% with a 24" extender so it can still support 250 lbs of rack and bike weight. Using a 7" or other extender puts the bikes further away and less chance of the handlebars hitting the back of the vehicle and makes it easier to open the rear hatch without having to remove the bikes and or the rack.
Good advise
Great review. I have a model Y coming. I need to be able to carry 3 bikes and i think the 1up is better as i can add one (instead of two on the kuat which makes the rack huge). Any insight on weight limitation of the tesla hitch?
Kuat has the Piston rack which can be made into 3. But tesla only has a 160lbs limit for self supported hitch loads. So you have to be careful how much your bikes weigh. If the rack weighs 60lbs, your bikes can’t total more than 100 lbs for all 3 bikes combined. Ebikes are a problem at that weight, but high dollar mountain bikes would be fine. Road bikes would be fine as well.
The pin and key lock won't fit on the Model Y hitch because the power box is too close to the hitch. How do you solve for that?
Thank you for the video. How do the racks compare with respect to the visibility out the backup camera - both with bikes loaded and with the racks in the upright position?
I can't speak for the 1up but with the kuat it obscures the vision from my jeep
Can you comment if your hitch is from Tesla or which aftermarket? Have you had any contact issues with the rear bumper and the 1UP USA rack on your Model Y? We are considering this setup due to smaller footprint vs KUAT.
I have an aftermarket hitch. The rack just very slightly touches the bumper when folded up all the way. I never have any issues with the bike touching the car though.
is this the OEM Hitch? It looks like you don't have the electronic parts to the left of it...
Just witnessed a 1UP failure... 4 mountain bikes on the rack at highway speed, one of the swing arms completely released due to a broken rivet in the ratchet mechanism. Luckily the bike that released was between two other bikes and wedged between the others, instead of completely falling off the rack. But that type of failure is pretty concerning, I'll be nervous to put my bike on that rack in the future. Will be interesting to hear what the response from 1UP is about that one. I owned first generation Kuat for a few years and it worked well for the most part, although the materials they used seemed kind of cheap and the chrome plating peeled off... hopefully they have fixed that issue with newer versions. The Kuat never lost a bike though and always worked despite the cosmetics. I now have a Thule Pro XTR which seems to be better than both 1UP and Kuat, but is a fair amount heavier.
Wow, I just got a 1UP, and that is pretty concerning. Did you hear back from 1UP? which rack did you have? Super Duty?
I had the Thule XTR and didn’t like it. It felt cheap in my opinion for the price and not very secure.
Does it work for heavy electric bikes?
did you do anything with parking sensors?
Great video! Do either of the racks block your rear camera when in the up position?
I have the kuat and it does block the camera when up
On my Mazda cx9 no issues with just rack
Can i mount this on a corolla and how do i do that?
I have the 1Up Super Duty double rack and it does not provide adequate restrain to prevent forward and aft movement of the bike. It also does not support a 70 lb bike as this weight causes even more movement of the bike. For tires wider than 3.0 inches the 1up rack is not a good choice and their ramp is too narrow to support the weight and blocks their license plate holder.
If you have the 1up set up for just 1 bike, would that let the Tesla hatch open up with the rack in the folded up position?
Ooo, based on this video, looks like you can leave the 1 bike rack on and not need to fold it up or down for trunk access if no bikes are loaded. That is a big plus. th-cam.com/video/u8h8zQzGZ8Q/w-d-xo.html
It’s interesting to me that we are at a point where someone views the 1up as cheaply built and having thin paint, scratching easy etc. ignoring the fact that it is actually anodized, made of all aluminum and metal parts, etc. while the Kuat has a ton of plastic that is going to fade, get brittle in the sun and wear over time. There is a reason you see so many 1ups around. My bro had the Kuat and then started to have issues with all the plastic and then was going to get a 1up but doing more research, ended up getting the quickerStuff rack. Now everyone seems to be copying this design since the 1up patent ran out.
Any tips for lowering the 1up rack with bikes on it, like you show with the Kuat at 3:57? I have not found an ergonomic way to do this
1up makes an extended handle called EZ pull for 2-4 slot racks, which moves the tilt bar to the front of the rack for easier access. But it is an $80 accessory that really should come standard with the rack imo
@@andreww.3208 It's not the tilt bar I have an issue with (I only have a 2 bike rack), it's lowering the rack with a bike on it that I find difficult...
@@alexneal2642 oh gotcha. I have the single rack version and pull the tilt bar with 1 hand and simultaneously pull the bike handlebar down with my other hand, which is the easiest technique I've found. Not sure how well that would work for the 2 rack version though since you'd have to reach further back for the tilt bar
Thanks for a great video. I just bought Kuat NV 2.0 and it looks amazing. I have faced one problem though, I have similar Tesla Model Y and the hitch lock isn't working due to narrow space between hitch and 7-pin wire connector. How are you able to secure it? Thanks.
Did you ever get this figured out? I have the same problem with my model y.
@@Matt.Bogosian yes, I called Kuat's customer service and they sent me another pin and lock, which worked great.
@@sohmal3 nice! I’m going to call them tomorrow.
One very important detail missing is that this review is with afteremarket hitch. With factory hitch there is a trailer connector on the left of the hitch that makes it pretty much impossible to lock the hitch. Has anyine solved this ?
Yes. Call Kuat and let them know what the issue is. They will send you the older pin and lock combo that, while still a tight fit, will work since it's a front facing lock mechanism.
1Up sells a "Side entry model Y lock" that works to lock the hitch pin. It's free if you bought your rack within the past year.
FYI - A friend has the KUAT rack - the plastic parts start to break down after a year - he’s had to replace them twice already.... I’ve had the 1Up on my car for over 5 years works as good as when it was new - 98% metal parts... Friend is tired of replacing plastic parts he is buying a 1Up....
1Up for the win! I've only ever owned a 1Up rack!
Just replaced my Kuat with a 1Up. Jury is still out but the Kuat was slowly falling apart and I couldn't trust it anymore.
I've not had this experience at all. I'm on my second NV 2.0, and I'm very happy with it. I sold my last one after having it for maybe a year or two (who can measure time in the age of COVID?) because I no longer have a 1.25" receiver.
It holds up over time, is extremely solid on the car, and I bought the wall mount so I can slide it into a hitch-like spot on my garage wall to keep it out of the way.
Incidentally, I was super tired last week and ran through a car wash with it on the back of the truck not realizing it was on there. It stopped the entire machine, and the wheel trough broke off of the inside bike mount. The long bolts also bent for that part of the rack. Everything else was perfectly fine, so, for $50, I was able to buy replacement parts and get it back on the road instead of having to buy a new rack.
Awesome comparison, I saw there’s the Kuat Sherpa 2.0, but it has a lower rated weight capacity for 40 lbs and I want to get maybe a RAD City EV bike, which is about 50 lbs. I do have a tandem garage, but the build of the Kuat and features are awesome, regardless of size. On another note, if I wanted to add another lock to the rack for more security, you don’t think there’s space for one? Getting my Model Y next Wednesday, so excited to get a bike rack, since I got the tow hitch.
It's pretty hard to find a locking point on the Kuat. I tried to make something myself and add it into one of the bolts, but it just didn't feel secure. This is kinda what triggered me into getting the 1UP.
Congrats on your Model Y! It's an awesome vehicle minus the build quality. I hear it's improving though.
@@DCPROJEKT Thanks broski! Sold my Model 3 and I know what you mean about build quality, constant improvements lol
1UP for me!
The 1up look like the stuff you buy from harbor freight. I can’t comment on the actual usage, that saids, I pulled the trigger on the Kuat. Thanks for the comparison.
Can’t you install the 1up a bit farther back so it doesn’t his the bumper?
Yes, it has a slot in the hitch that allows you to slide it in or out a bit, shouldn't be an issue with the bumper.
@@nigelh2o For the 1Up super duty rack, instructions say you need to insert the rack so the ball is inserted 2” into the receiver. When I do that the swing arms are only about 5 mm from the back bumper when the rack is in the storage position. How much experience do you have using less than 2" insertion?
Have you noticed if the 1Up is contacting your rear bumper/scratching it? I know its subjective to the car...but that would be a deal-breaker for me...
If it’s close to the bumper, just don’t put it in the hitch receiver so far. It’s very flexible on how far you need to put it in.
Definitely get the stopping collar.
I have mine set so I can use the locking pin if I like without thinking about it or adjusting it.
@@TedKidd Are you talking about the 1Up Hitch Bar Stop? How does this help?
Kuat has new better rack cmg out in March 2022 called Piston - pretty pricey though.
Would be nice to know how much they each weigh. Can & will look it up, thx.
Seems pretty sold and has some nice upgrades from the 1up unfortunately the price point for 1 Mach 2 Bike rack plus 3 additional trays plus international shipping to a U.S. territory like Puerto Rico and
it's wunderfull Cordillera Central Central Mountain Range would make the cost range
soar above $2500.00 Labor dollars where in comparision a
1up Super duty
Double with 2 add ons and 4 security locks comes in at a cost of
$1788.00 Labor dollars
3:23 Did you say "detergent"? 😄
I just got the 1up rack. How did you get the cross pin in with the lock?
Love my 1up. You do have to learn how to use it best, and it is a good idea to buy a bunch of those locks at the same time so you can get them all keyed the same.
Also, I would get the extension for pulling the release bar. Without it it's really hard to operate as this video shows.
I also have a stop collar which allows me to position it perfectly for the hitch pin.
I got all fat bike trays so I can use it for any of my bikes.
Gave my Kuat to my brother in law.
I take the rack off when not in use so I think the one up is better for that. If I left the rack on all the time would the cuat be better? IDK. I don't really like the ratchet strap approach to securing the rear wheel.
Good tips! I did forget to mention the locks. I also purchased the locks together so that it all comes with the same key.
Why do you mention Tesla Model Y? The Tesla hitch is totally different from your aftermarket hitch.
The Kuat has some great convenience features. But the 1-Up is a lifetime purchase. Its made entirely out of anodized aluminum and stainless hardware. (Other than the receiver mount). The difference in quality isn't even close. Also, 1-Up is US made. Kuat is made of Chinesium.
Nice review i own the 1 up in a 2 inch hitch. Can the Tesla use a 2 or 1.25?
You failed to mention a few VERY key points.
First is weight. The 1up is much lighter. And if you get the single ( can add up to 2 more trays) it’s only 26lbs. Much easier to just throw in the trunk or hatch.
Second is materials. Do you see plastic on the 1up? Only a tiny bit where the trays pivot. Kuat has so much plastic to degrade in the sun. And since it’s so huge and cumbersome you’ll be leaving it on the vehicle longer causing even more sun exposure.
Third ( and perhaps most important) is how the racks touch the bike. Kuat touches the fork area and can damage things sometimes. 1up touches NOTHING but rubber. That means zero chance of frame damage. I’ve seen it-not pretty.
Fourth: construction. Yes the 1up is basic and functional. But it’s also modular and has easily replaceable parts. I’ve damaged my 1up (totally my fault) and they happily replaced the bent parts. FREE! Nobody else does that these days.
I’ve had everything from trunk racks to La Prealpina to Thule. NOTHING beats 1up. And I have no ties to the company other than being a very satisfied customer.
1. Weight is the almost the same. 10 pounds
2. I actually take off my kuat rack more because it’s so much easier without having to use another tool. Yes agreed, there are some plastics.
3. I rarely had issues with it touching the forks. I’ve noticed I only had this problem on long trips and destinations with twisty roads. Wasn’t that big of a deal
4. Construction is litterly the worst part of this rack. Anything can be replaced with the kuat as well.. how are you gonna charge $700 for such a mechanical product. I can’t even fluidly unlatch the arms because it’s constantly getting caught in the grooves. I just came back from a $1500 mile road trip and the rack has suffered lots of paint scratches and dings. Because the rack is basically super thinly painted. The kuat actually has professional paint with a thick clear coat
Like I said, each rack has their pros and cons. Everybody will have to chose what they think is best for their needs. To me, 1up isn’t the best rack nor is the kuat. They are the top racks, imo.
Narrator constantly swtches between 1up and Kuat, so it's hsrd to tell which rack he's talking about.
You know the hitch on a Model Y is rated for like, 9 lbs tongue weight, right?
I was very nervous putting my brand new beach cruiser on this rack. th-cam.com/users/postUgkxG6JIgwJhur8_Rg8UeQ3EmePzi_wSncL8 But after reading many reviews I decided to get this one and take a chance. When arrived it was very simple to adjust and put together. I also added spike tape over the metal hooks before securing and tightening the straps, and no scratches. I also purchased the top bar made by the same company so that my cruiser sits straight on the rack without having to turn upside down. Extra bungee cords are used to secure the front wheel from flapping and even piece of mind knowing your bike is secure. Definitely recommend...
KUAT bike rack cost more than the bikes it hauls...lol
the oneUp looks blocky and under engineered. it looks like something i could make in my machine shop. i just purchased the kuat nv2.0 and this video makes me confident in my decision. thanks for the video.
That's a plus for the 1Up for me. I want something designed by an engineer and an enthusiast, not a marketing department.
1up heavy duty all day, ebike approved 👍
Facts
thats a valid point. but the difference is 15 lbs between 1Ups super duty model vs Kuats v2.0. and im not sure this is 1ups superduty model which drops the weight down to 50lbs to kuats 60 lbs. but its still something worth considering.
1UP holds a lot more weight and works better on a real SUV lol
I just used my new super duty 2" hitch rack. IT REALLY NEEDS A BETTER WAY TO UNLOCK AND SWIVEL. 1up wants you to spend $90 more, on top of the $665-$715, for their extremely poor implementation of a latch and positioning thereof, that allows swinging rack up and down!
Seriously. That crap needs to be standard when spending that much money.
You forgot to mention something very important to some of us...The KUAT is HEAVY! Almost double the weight.
It's definitely heavier, but not double the weight. 10 pounds.
@@DCPROJEKT I stand corrected- I was comparing my two place KUAT to the single 1Up. Your vid is very informative. Thanks.
#ireallyamspainard
Ive been waiting for 1 up...but christ they are on back order for months and months
I only used this for a couple weeks before I sold that bike so I don't have any longer term use review - Vy
Detergent lol
at 3:26 lol. had to back up the video to make sure i got that one right
Cheaply made
1 Up and Saris all day
A sorry review!
None of them , they are both overpriced.
Kuat is made in China.
So is your iphone!
I always try to avoid purchasing Chinese products if there is an option for American. Really difficult to buy a phone not made in Asia
KUAC IS TWICE THE PRICE BUT OBVIOUSLY BETTER MADE. SO THERE STATEMENT OF SIMILAR PRICE. NO WAY