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LOVE this club but refuse to use it.
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Would you game a chipper?
I Player of 13 and have used the chipper for years it is Brian from 50 to 60 yards out as well as up close
Good on you Paul, if it works why not
Nooooo it’s like you have given up trying, work hard and practice and NEVER put one of these in your bag, unless you over 70
Only if it's forged.
@littlederek37 a chipper and a flipper eh!
you give me a club that guarantees me a perfect strike every time and I don't care if it's pink with unicorns painted on it and shoots glitter every time I swing it. I'll break out my pink unicorn glitter club every damn time.
you had me until the pink glitter.....
Me too! My callaway 37* x-act tank chipper brings out the CONDEMNATION from other golfers. They can't stand it! I think I can beat any 4 handicap or higher golfer from 10 yards in. The chipper is one of a few golf clubs that can change a person's life.
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Rescue clubs and lob wedges were sneered at when they first came out as well; until enough players tried them and shot better scores.
I’ve gotten over the looks I sometimes get when I tee off with a 5 wood instead of driver, use a rescue club for the approach, chip up to the hole with a chipper and 1-putt for par. Then, I go help the others look for their ball.
I should mention that I’m 64 and instead of playing three or four rounds a week like I did years ago I now only have time for a couple rounds a month. Thus, I’ve lost my short game touch, but a chipper helps me effortlessly get the ball decently on the green.
@@kbrown4ou Same here, I am 64. I use the callaway 37* exact tank chipper. It changed my life. It takes lots or practice to learn how to fine tune your use of it. Had 2 chip ins last week and shot 81. People accuse me of using an illegal club. Me and my life long golfing buddies have suffered in our game. The short game is the saving grace at this point.
Andy, I’m member at the CGIM ( Montreal, Canada) two courses …links and parkland. I’m around 87-89 scoring average and 50-60% do greens in regulation either par 4 or 5. It’s when I miss the green that I kill literally my game….cause I’m the worst chipper in the world. Sand is pretty decent but chips where horrible. 3 weeks ago I left my EGO asides and bought a chipper. The smart sole Cleveland. Play as a putter with the torque needed because of the grass or distance to carry. Ridiculously I chopped on an average of 5 strokes per game. I use my new tool most of the time from inside 35 yards positioning the ball in the middle for chip and run or back in the stand for more heights & spin. My 50* Rest In Peace in the stockroom.
I already do... I love my chipper. Cost a tenner from sports direct. Took a while to work out how to use it but it’s deadly from the fringes. No snobbery here. Just use what works.
I just returned from the range with that same club, after 10 minutes I knew this club would be going in the bag.
Absolutely yes. I just picked up a ray cook chipper. It's fun to use and great around the green.
If Callaway TM srixon Mizuno ping made them and smashed the marketing and charged us £125 we would all be buying them 😂😂😂
Callaway and Cleveland do make one Cleveland has the Smart sole and Callaway via its subsid has the Odyssey X-Act th-cam.com/video/j6CWOCGuZcs/w-d-xo.html
@@blacklionengineer3274 True... but they don't aggressively market them, as they do many of their other clubs.
True
Odyssey make the X-act chipper which retails at about 100 quid. It's a fantastic club, and can be used for anything from chips out of the fringe to bump and run, to approach pitches 80 to 100 yards out with a 3/4 swing. It can be punched from back of stance to keep under the wind.
However most golf gear snobs are too busy slicing their £500 driver out of bounds or blading their lob wedge through the green to learn the intricacies of using a chipper to full effect!
Check out the ping chipr, mate
I play of 22 and have a chipper in my bag. It's the most used club other than my driver. Anything from 100 yards in I use it, I just adjust my swing but always keep straight wrist and never break them. The wide, flat sole stops me from chuncking the ball which is a huge problem in my game. During the winter when the bunkers are wet and like concrete I use my chipper, I don't have much distance control but I always get out. It's perfect for high handicappers who accept that they will never be world beaters and just to enjoy their golf.
I am off 5 and I use one love it
@@ryanmoran425 which one do you use?
@@Jack-xy4fy i play off 8 and i have a chipper too. I practice with it only and the chipper alone is what i think brought be down from a 12 handicap. I have 3. The wilson harmonized. The ray cook extreme aim. And a intech ez roll.
@@adrianmacklin418 I've been using the odyssey x act tank for a few months now, (picked it up heavily used for £50 on ebay) and I think it's amazing... The
@@Jack-xy4fy thats the real power pf a chipper. My buddy is a great chipper with his lob wedge. However at least 5 times per game he will thin it through a green or chunk it 3 feet and have to chip agian. Lol and he talked so much crap about chippers over the years and now uses one of my old ones. I honestly think more people would use them if they play with people like us who can make low scores with them.
I'm new and bought one last week. What's the stigma? People getting pissed off if you beat them with it?🤷♂️
The only stigma is in their brain. I can get closer to the hole than they can. Yes other golfers get pissed at you.
I think it's hilarious that golfers get so pissed at a chipper; as if it's sort of "cheating". Yet, they have no problem using long-ass and crazy looking putters and humongous drivers. It makes absolutely zero sense. Enjoy your new club!
@@mgoodwin56 A chipper is only cheating if it is one of those double faced chippers, those are against the rules. But a single faced one as long as it has a round grip is perfectly legal.
@@songman68 You are correct. If it helps lower your score.. use one and don’t worry about what others may think.
Carry an F8/F9 one length hybrid. Now you have a great hybrid and a chipper too!
I actually game a Square Strike chipped and I love it.
I love using the putter type swing around the green with my Square Strike.
Hi Andy, when I started playing golf I used one of these clubs, I knew it as a jigger, I could bump and run it and even lob it over a bunker, I even played my bunker shots with it. I would use from anywhere from 50-60 yards out to right beside the green and the only reason i stop using it was I broke the shaft on it.
I now play off 7 and if you asked me one I still use most probaly not as I had to learn to chip after I broke the jigger. But definetely worth trying if you are starting out and have trouble chipping.
Just shows they can work
Thank you for doing a review on a chipper. I have had a Cleveland chipper for many years now. Yes, I take it out of my bag for golfing with certain people. However I always realize it should always be in the bag. Sure, I wish I was better and practicing the short game could go a long way. However I also want to have fun on the course and the chipper helps me keep my scores down and that always helps.
My old Adams A12OS set had a matching chipper I just loved. When I upgraded to a different set of clubs, I purchased from Amazon an Orlimar Golf Escape Chipper. I find a chipper invaluable for shots just off the green when the fringe is not uniform and it is much more desirable to chip over the fringe than putt through it. I've also learned how to impart backspin on the ball (and limit the roll out) using the chipper when the flag is close to the edge where you need to chip over the fringe. (I am an 18 handicap and need all the help I can get trying to get up and down because my accuracy to land on the green is not that great. I sometimes only make greens in regulation maybe 3-4 times in a round. The majority of my Pars are one-putts thanks to an accurate chip up.
@The Average Golfer. I started to play golf at 57, with a torn left MCL. Played a season & realized the pain in the Left Knee needed looking into. Had an MCL SCOPE over the Winter & in Spring, I could not only hit a fade, but hit driver straight.
Long story short, on my 2nd outing Post Surgery, I nailed a decent drive with my PING G25. Normally, after a good drive, I fat the second shot. Not this time. I nailed a Mizuno 3 wood to about 60 feet from the pin, dead center in very short cut grass.
I pulled my CLEVELAND SMART SOLE C CHIPPER & launched the Titleist AVX onto the green, slightly right with good tempo.
As the ball rolled closer to the pin, it made a move to the left.
Bottom line is, it rolled in for Eagle. It was like slow motion!
It will possibly be THE ONLY EAGLE I ever score, but I credit that chipper with it's heavy head with giving me the opportunity to get close! The fact it went in... well, that was just plain luck.
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I'll never be a great golfer, but I enjoy the game. I have always been weaker from 5 yards off the green than 25 yards off the green (whether with a wedge or a putting stroke with a 7 iron) I tried the chipper not even knowing it had a stigma. It seems to consistently get me in the region of a chance of a one putt...
screw the stigma. If it helps you score better and beat your buddies on Saturday USE IT!!
Used one a lot, and just purchased a new Cleveland Smart Sole 4.0C to fill that role.
Andy, I use a Callaway 25 degree 11 wood for 160-165 yard shot into greens. A low ball hitter, this gives me plenty of height to stop it on the green from that distance and is real easy to hit. My playing partners at first would say “Wow, what club is that???” Then after I told them, all I’d hear was “Oh”. Never another question, golf snobbery.
Isnt that a sad response but I am sure you dont care Ren
Got that right!
Have one. Love the simplicity. Very straight chips. Takes a little getting used to touch for distance.
I have a Cleveland chipper, and I love it.
I use Odyssey X-Act Tank Chipper about a 7 iron loft. So easy to use and after a lot of practicing I’m really confident with it. Very versatile around the green. Great video
Good on you Roger
Bought one for my dad as chipping was killing him...never looked back, saved him so many shots as he wasn't duffing it anymore
I have, and am using a chipper around the greens, where there are no bunkers in front, it is a safe option from errors with Sand Wedge, or Pitching club,,,!!!
Chipper is half putter half iron - a hybrid in fact - so.......what’s the problem ? Using a 5 hybrid instead of a 4 iron is OK and normal but a chipper isn’t ???
In the winter with dead grass and bald tight lies, I still use a Cleveland Niblick for pitches up to 40 yard and chips where I cannot putt. Cleveland renamed the Niblick, it is now called a Smart Sole “C” wedge or chipper. With summer conditions and decent grass, I don’t use the Niblick unless I play a course that has tight lies around the greens or one that is a links type course. Niblick statistics: 42 degree loft, 68 degree lie, D5 swing weight, shaft length 35.5 inches. My Niblick stays in the bag, year around as I like the feel and sometime use it for trouble shots like major side hill/down hill slope, in old divots, and in difficult grass (fescue or St. Augustine). An oversize grip helps you use the putter type stroke on green side chips.
Yes indeed. I've popped one in the bag this week.
My mate, a 9 handy cap (great full swing but terrible chipper)bought a Bronty Lady Chipper whilst in the U.S. To compensate for the shame he also bought a 62 deg wedge to put the bag. Never used the 62 wedge.
I game a Cleveland Smart Sole 3 Chipper. Eliminates guessing which club to use around the green to chip. Use a putter swing and just adjust in your stance to increase or decrease loft. I still use 54 and 58 degree wedge for flop shots.
Use the Odessy X-act - great tool.
I have flirted with a chipper over the years. I know golfers who have become quite adept with one. As with any club, practice is key. If you are used to chipping with a more lofted club, it will take some practice to get used to the run-out, but it will almost always get you onto the green. As to the stigma attached to a chipper, I would remind everyone that there are no style points in golf. If it helps your game, go for it!
Well said!!
They say your worst putt is better than your worst chip. I love my wedges but with a bit of inspiration from your "chipper" video I purchased a Ray Cook Chipper from Amazon for 33 dollars. Its a beautiful piece of equipment and has 37 degrees of loft. The weather has been horrible here in Seattle so haven't had an opportunity to use its magical properties. I think it will become a very accurate tool from just off the green when you might have decided to use your putter. Continue the great content. Its refreshing to have a golfer think outside the box!
Thank you and great first line, very true
Took my chipper out for a test run this afternoon. It was cold, wet and muddy but nevertheless! It was a revelation. Tight groupings of balls from 10,20,30 yards. Golfers were asking what the hell I was using. Balls came crisply off the chipper face and no issue with control. Can't wait to use in warmer conditions. On the way home stopped off at my golf store and had a Winn jumbo putting grip installed. Looking to save 3 or 4 putts next round! Stigma? What stigma?
I bought a Intech EZ-Roll chipper from Amazon for $25 last summer and I love it. lol I think mine is the same loft as a 7 iron at 35'. I think it would help a lot of golfers.
I agree Alan
I have found one at a thrift store a couple days ago and cannot wait to try it on the course. I've used it on the putting green and chipping trainer in my house and it's amazing. I get why it's frowned upon but if they are using technology to make drivers hit farther, why can't this be accepted?
Hey Enrique... I agree. The same people who frown upon these chippers are the same people using 460cc drivers, cavity back irons, graphite shafts, range finders, 35 compression balls, etc, etc.
If they're so worried about playing "real" golf... let's go back to using REAL woods with wood shafts, wound golf balls, blade irons, etc, etc.
I laugh at people who laugh at chippers, lol.
Hope you're playing well my friend.
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I have been playing one, and reviewing it for over a full Season in Canada. The shots I've been able to make out of brutal lies is incredible. What most people fail to consider is how great the Putting stroke and lie angle can be in awkward situations. I've been able to hit shots you could never hit with a Wedge because of the reduced swing radius. My friends used to poke fun at it, but they've seen me make so many incredible shots they have stopped.
Good on ya, sounds like a real success
The thing is.. for me personally i'd be happy using this club. I only get to play maybe... maybe once per month. I dont have time to practice regularly my chipping. So I would use it. And if it annoys the golfers who don't like it then that's a bonus too.
Starter Box Set came with 9 clubs. PW is tasked with alot of heavy lifting so bought a chipper for a 10th and it’s helpful. SW is the next addition.
Like anything else, I would think this kind of club is something you’d have to work with and get used to. The value I see would be in the fringe area where you might want to get something running from one side of the green to the other side where the pin is located. I don’t think I’d want to use it from from further than 10 yards away from the edge of a green. I’ve certainly considered the possibility of getting one for winter golf when it is especially wet around the greens.
My short game always been the strongest part of my game, if it wasn't absolutely, why struggle, good addition to bag on links courses
I thought after filming that it was more beneficial/usable on a links course
My golf partner has one, its his go to club around the greens especially when his lofted clubs are misbehaving oh and he's old
Yup! I bought one from Wilson this year and have had great success with it! I had to take some grief from my friends, but they shut up pretty quickly when they saw how effective it is. The key is to use a putting stroke without the wrists for a nice roll-out.. You can "pop" it over slight barriers with more wrist action. I don't use it outside 30 yards or over bunkers unless the bunker is narrow and close to me.
good on you Mark
It's the same if you use a putting stroke with a hybrid - it's almost equally easy as, saves you money and another club in the bag.
Yeah, but a putting stroke with a hybrid is awkward due to the lie. Most of these are designed to lie like a putter and be a shorter length like a putter as well.
I bought one years ago for about £25 put it in the bag but never used it, then 1 day I just pulled it out of the bag and now wouldn't put it back, great from 80 yards (can be longer) in, over the bunkers with a run and any where around the green with great accuracy, my mates keep complaining and say it's not legal but it is as long as it's got a round grip, shorter than a 7 iron with a single face, don't be embarrassed give it a go it's just a golf club like any other you may use 😎
I would never cave for a perceived stigma. Instead If it work, I would brag about it and be proud of my ability to withstand other people´s social construction of what the "right" type of golf clubs really is!
However, I don´t need that type of help. Chipping is pretty easy if you learn to have the same speed with the center of your body and the club shaft.
Great comment
Great vid Andy. I'm tempted to test one out. This Ram has 37* loft, so this is close to my 7i. I only carry 13 clubs at the moment too.....
Thanks for the info....glad you did some research! Love to know how you get on Ian
As far as popping a chip over a bunker or other obstacle goes, remember that different chippers come in different lofts. The "Square Strike" (and Mazel's clone that's the exact club but at a lower price) come in lofts from the 30's like this one all the way up to 60 degrees. Lots of more traditional looking chippers come in at 47 degrees or so, similar to lots of pitching wedges.
I have an accusite chipper and I can get really good loft off of it. good solid 20 ft high when im really trying to get under it. If im further out I can get it about 10 foot high and carry a good 30-40 yards. I use it when I am close to the green because when I hit fat the grass explodes and I cant even patch in my hole and and that could ruin someone elses golf game and it's extra work for the club employees because there are chunks missing close to the putting green
I have one which has 37 degree loft. Because it has a short shaft like a putter, I feel very confident around the greens. Consequently even if I don't reach the green in regulation, I have a pretty good chance of a par, or bogey. It will easily get over most bunkers from close up, as I know the ball will lift to just over waist height. Great out of rough too. But then...I'm a 21 handicap....
Had one when I started playing golf 15years ago great little thing to build confidence and then when you get better move to the wedges, a mate of mine had one when he started and used to hit it 140 yards , he now hits a gap wedge . Nice vid Andy
It is a good training aid
More golfers need to be realistic with their ability and skill level. I have one in my bag, a Cleveland C-wedge with the smart sole 3.0 design. They are not made to fly over bunkers. I still carry a 50-degree gap wedge, a 54 sand wedge, and a 60 lob wedge. There is space in the bag for one of these! I have Driver, 4w, 3H, and 5-PW plus a putter. I realized that I was chipping with a 7 or 8 iron probably 3-4 times per round, the famous chip and run shots (depending on the course), that's more than I hit my hybrid or lob wedge. These are way easier to use if you get a well-designed one (Cleveland) because they have a ton of bounce so you won't hit fat shots, they also have the upright lie angle like a putter so you can stand close to it. My Cleveland is 42 degrees of loft, right between my 9 iron and PW and it's 34" in length, the same as an average putter. Learn how to use this properly and I'm sure nobody will be laughing at you when you are sinking chips and giving yourself gimmie putts. This is the one I have, you should check it out, it's very well designed by Cleveland's wedge designers and been in there lineup for a while now. www.amazon.com/Cleveland-Golf-Smart-Wedge-Degree/dp/B0721GS7VL/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=cleveland+chipper&qid=1575576989&sr=8-1
Yes I have seen these wedges but not for sale in UK
@@TheAverageGolfer You sure? www.amazon.co.uk/Cleveland-11045017-Smart-Wedge-Green/dp/B0721GS7VL/ref=sr_1_1?dchild=1&keywords=cleveland+chipper&qid=1575577595&sr=8-1
@@TheAverageGolfer I see it on Amazon.uk for 95 pounds, I think you should review this one because it's a serious design.
Interesting video. I'm so inconsistent with my wedges, I put an Orlimar chipper in my bag and it definitely helps. I was only using my lob wedge maybe once per round, but I use the chipper several times each round since I substituted it. I don't care about the stigma, since the chipper really does help my scoring.
I grew up using a "Jigger" in the 70s. Much easier within 20yds of the green for amateurs who shoot, say, above 85 than trying to master multiple wedge clubs. Say goodbye to chili-dips, blading it 30 yards over the green, shanks, etc. Maybe I just have no pride - ha - but OF COURSE I would use it if it is legal and it helps my game!
I have never used a chipper and would be reluctant to put one in my bag. The reason for this is because if I ever wanted to play a chip shot I would always use one of my irons or wood.
no need by the sounds of it
Played with a couple of fellas years ago when I was a junior who used chippers. Work great if you struggle with other clubs but ultimately it does not take too much practice to become equally proficient with various wedges, 8iron; 7iron or 23* Hybrid which subject to conditions will also do a similar job.
I had a chipper years ago. Didn't like it for chipping but it was great as an alternative short iron - went as straight as a die.
💯 am using it......who cares if its frowned apon.....far 2 much old snobbery at some clubs so use it and get it right up them.....👍
My mate at Ashton under lyne golf club plays with one all the time he loves it. It stops him shanking it
and thats the point, its a massive help for some golfers
The chipper is not made to be used from 50+ yards. Its just off the green use only where many cannot use a wedge. I would have no use for a chipper. My wedges are the bet clubs in my bag.
Have a Cleveland Smart Sole 3 C wedge in my bag currently. Very similar to this Ram chipper. Have it a bit longer than standard. It is my club from 100 yards and in, every shot. It is a club that I got read of and then went back to as it is the club that gets me that best results from 100 yards and in.
A lot of people like these Jeremy, not for sale in UK though
I think it is funny how some people are thinking. They are fine with fitting for different shafts and heads to get as good results as possible, but they refuse to use a directional weapon like a MacGregor MachTech X chipper. I never come as close to hole a chip-in as when I am using my chipper. A chipper-shot a low risk shot compared to a 60, and golf is all about risk-management.
I game a Ben Sayer & use it from up to 30 yds out from fringe. Took a purple of dozen practice shots before taking it out for serious play
Slazenger have a similar (maybe not the finish quality) chipper for tuppence.
Everyone's raving about the "miracle club".
It helps if you know how to use them, with the shots over the bunker you should open the face and hit down on the ball.
I only play golf once or twice a year. Care not to practice. I use to play a lot when I was young. Still can hit from tee. My jigger is perfect I don’t chunk shots. It fits the bill. Thx for reviewing.
You were correct in your initial comments; I would NEVER play a chipper for any of the types of shots that were demonstrated in this video. In fact, I would NEVER play a chipper, or purchase a chipper at all! There are golf clubs and shot techniques that are appropriate for all of those shots, and in my opinion a chipper is not one of those clubs. The chips from the fringe would be played with a putter by me; the shots from the rough would call for my 54* or 58* wedge, as would the pitch shots over the bunker. As for the 50-yard shot into the green, unless I need to carry the ball over a hazard, I would probably hit a low runner with an 8 or 9 iron (possibly even a 7-iron).
Over the years I've perfected the 7/8 iron bump and run so that it's one of my go to shots. Using a chipper may well limit someone's development but each to their own.
It might but maybe helps with confidence
Perfected, yeah right Faldo 🤣🤣🤣🤣
Here we are in 2022 and from your videos I see you have softened your opinion a bit from this video. There are those golfers who seem to think you are not playing real golf unless you use the most difficult clubs there are to hit. I would suggest to them perhaps garden implements would be an appropriate choice.
Thanks for doing this Andy. Have wondered about a chipper at times and you have now finally answered the question for me.
It is a luxury club in terms of being one dimensional
Seems like it’s just a bump and run club. Just use an mid iron and you can do the same and have space for another wedge or wood/hybrid
dont be so shure this chipper as well as chip and run will hit 100 yds from under a tree when you couldn't swing anything else
Got one and good for me around the Greens .Dont be a fool use one its golf snobbery all day.
I have a Cleveland Smart Sole C, which stands for chipper. It's an awesome idea, I should have bought one YEARS ago!!
I am a new golfer and I game an Odyssey X-ACT chipper - why ? Because it made it where I m not having to learn another stroke with my wedges/irons right now... sure, I likely won't need it in the future - but for now, it seems like I walk up to every green with my Odyssey White Hot Pro and X-ACT in hand to finish the hole. They swing similar, both have the same type of insert, and I'm getting better with consistency thanks to the similarities with the pair.
Otherwise known as a “Jigger”. I’ve got an old one for certain courses. Might get played once every 10 rounds but not something to keep in the bag regularly. An 8 iron from up to 25/30yds out is far better with the same putting style swing
I’m happy to use what gives me confidence and is more consistent.
When I was single digit no way I would have used a chipper. Now after putting career first and a 12 I use one because it helps my game.
Andy it's all about the # of clubs that we chose to carry, not how well the club works, i could easily carry 20+ clubs and solve all of my golf problems.
What a beautiful golf course. In Arizona golf courses start out surrounded by desert but then they build a subdivision around it and poof... no more scenery.
You are right... I refuse to use a chipper like this even though it would probably help me. I guess when i reach 65 i will swallow my pride and will play this thing along with hitting from the silver tees.
Its a great links Andy
I bought from SD a few years ago for £9.99. It was then called a Ram Tiger. It’s about 45degrees quite a heavy head and practicing over shoes on carpet upto about twenty feet one can do anything with it. Backspins like crazy and my partner and I have a lot of fun with it indoors. We would never game it because it would rarely be used. The reasons being it doesn’t work in the wet, your ball striking has to be perfect or you will constantly thin it and the loft is variable. Give me two yards off the green with a perfect lie (not bare) and a fifteen foot run out and I will leave it stone dead every time. Other than that it will be all over the place. Good fun indoors though.
My mate plays one it’s a bloody cheat stick. He is so good with it in the right situations can’t be beat, the good thing is he uses it in the wrong ones when short sided with danger in front. Tends to level things out.
it is one dimensional
When I started playing (1970) a jigger was a fairly common club, basically a blade putter with about a 7 iron loft on the face! I was even given one and still have it although the rubber grip is knackered! I used it for a while but as I got better, I needed the space for another club! They kind of just dropped out of fashion and your one is just the jigger updated!
Yes very true
Shot the best round of the season today, and the chipper saved me at least 3 strokes. The putter? I have to have a talk with my putter.
I own one, had it since day one when I knew nothing about golf ( or should I say golf stigma ) and I love it , Great club for anyone who just enjoys playing. Very versatile and super easy to use . Be brave and buy one .
Have used one on/off for years. Just bought a new one from Tour Edge - 49 degrees. Get hassled about it all the time, but from up to about 10 yards off the green (fringe, not up and over a bunker) it is deadly. Chip up and take your gimme! I have heard too many times how I just need to practice and learn to use a sand wedge, 8 iron, etc. Save your breath, I can spend that time working on mid-irons because bump and run is covered. I have yet to play any mid handicapper that chips so much better than I to cause me to want to change.
Good on you Butch
Had an old macgregor 36 deg in the bag for about a year, sunk dozens of balls from 2 foot off the green, then had to make way for another club but my 8 was the same loft. Not quite the same but getting there.
I can see how this could be dangerous!
This is a club I see a lot of senior golfers use & they usually have deadly short games. Good up to 30 yards from the green. Only downside is that they are a 1-trick pony, good for a bump & run shot but not much else.
Would I play a chipper? No, maybe pride but generally I do not struggle with chipping and all too often I see golfers using a chipper when the putter would do the job just as well
I can see how if used for years this could be a deadly weapon!
Awesome! Met one of your team at the shop in Hellingly today. You're doing great job guys!!
Your reaction will probably mirror most of your respondents. I remember when Cleveland came out with the Niblick. An array of golfers tested it; it routinely performed better than their wedge of choice (the exception being low handicap golfers), yet most said they wouldn't bag one. Go figure. I guess most mid-to-high handicappers would rather look like 'real golfers' than score better. I use the Wilson version and usually have the last laugh around the green. My wife uses the Odyssey version and is deadly with it from 25 yards in. Suffice it to say, I can always save more strokes with my chipper than I ever could with a three or four iron--or lob wedge, for that matter. Make fun, if you like.
I currently carry 3 Cleveland Niblick II's: 43, 49 and 56 degrees loft. The 56 is the least useful, and will likely lose its spot by next season. But they are much easier to use (partly due to upright lie, partly due to heavy heads) than traditional wedges __for Me__.
@@pat5873 Although the Wilson chipper is currently in the bag, whenever I take out my single-length irons set (which only goes down to the gap wedge), I'll take along my Niblick 42* and 56*. I use the 42* from everywhere. The 56* I only use in the infamous 'dirt' bunkers of Tucson City Golf, where it's an automatic 'out' using a basic chipping stroke. Wish I could find the 49*.
No one making fun Sean, if it works then I am all for it
Do they still sell these?
@@TheAverageGolfer Cleveland marketed the Niblick, then the Niblick II (conforming grooves). The latest iterations were the Smartsole I, II, and III. The design principle's the same, but the design has been refined. I played the Niblick IIs. As far as I know, Wilson still sells the Harmonized Chipper.
i been thinking of this around the greens with a kotahi grip would be one of the best scorer ever to me..cause best short game player of all time many many years ago taught to grip it with 45 degree hands an no one will ever beat you around the greens
I use a chipper all the time cheap one £20.00 use around the green with great affect changed the grip on it like a putter shot saving club .
good on you Andrew
I used one for a couple years when I first started and loved it. Got rid of it as I got just as good with my 7 iron and so replaced it with a wedge.
do yo u miss it?
Not really. My scores have lowered since I took it out. Attribute that to having more options with wedges. But realistically I’m sure the lower scores are due more with the practice I put in versus the club
My chipper is stroke-saver (Paragon $35). Good to 80 yds. It's a 7 iron loft. I wish I could find one with a PW loft. I tried the Square Strike wedge and couldn't make it work, as it doesn't glide over the ground like a chipper.
I actually own four different chippers, some are very helpful, and some are really "catchy" designs. Two of mine are interchangeably useful ( both work) better than any of my wedges with my ability inside 20-30 yards. Since so many "golf pros" have me carrying four wedges, I don't mind replacing one of them. When hit properly, the wedges work, but I rarely hit them properly. Which makes you the proudest, a proper set of wedges, or a easy lofted putt to within a foot??
great comment Darrel
Been playing a chipper this year and it has improved my chips off the green and bump and runs. The face is square and easier to aim than manufacturing a Ruyan putt-chip. The weight is greater and toe biased, so it works better out of the thicker stuff. I’ve found it to be 3 to 5 yards closer on average, and that’s often the difference of a stroke. It’s nearly impossible to stub one. I’m a good putter, and we’ve all heard putt when you can. Why not chip with a club that has a putter lie angle? Also short game touch is first to go when not playing enough, and this is just as reliable as my putter after a week or two off. My biggest problem has been figuring out which club it replaces, currently my 52°. PS: Nobody has said a word.
Here’s the thing - you drive with a driver and put with a putter so what’s the stigma with having a chipper to chip with?
Couple of old boys at our place use them and love them. I'd never use one as it's not versatile enough. A wedge can be used for much longer shots, chip and runs etc so is more usable.
You could hit one of these 250yds I reckon Jay
@@TheAverageGolfer 😂 😂 😂 😂 😂 not if its anything like my putting! Couldn't get it on line! 🙈
I’ve just got my hands on a Cleveland Smart Sole chipper from the states and played with it today. I’m playing off 21.3 and wow I played the round off my life tonight. Can’t remember hitting so many pars and a few birdies . Don’t get caught up with the stigma surrounding these clubs , if it helps you score then who cares as there’s no pictures on a score card . My Smart sole is going for £176-185 on eBay when you can buy direct from American for £149 for the club , postage and tax . It’s an absolute no brainier.
I'm 72 and use one all the time...As a result, I have a lot more 1 putts... Don't knock it until you've tried it...After you did, you didn't.
Put it in the bag Andy - but only if it is legal in comps...Some are v dodgy re groove width/depth etc.
My issue would be that I carry 3 wedges 52,56,60 plus pitching wedge, I also carry a hybrid so I would have to give up either the 52 degree wedge or the hybrid and I use them a lot... I wouldn’t have an issue being embarrassed with the chipper if it fit my game I would use it but I don’t see that happening