Movies That Don't Age Well III
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I never really watched your content a lot when I was younger, but I think as a young girl, just coming across your channel every once in a while made me happy. It was nice to see another woman who really cared about film. Anyway, years later I've found your channel again and I've subscribed! Love your videos and how your setup has barely changed at all lol
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Maggie is OG TH-cam. One of the originals.
David Bowie was a great actor. Obviously, it was a side project for him, but he brought such a strong charisma and presence to every role that elevates the films he appeared in. He is unrecognizable in The Prestige as Tesla and The Last Temptation of Christ as Pontius Pilate. He’s even great in a strange little movie called The Hunger where he plays a dying vampire.
David Bowie did not have a great reputation as an actor at the time. However, I did not recognise him as Pontius Pilate, and I thought the actor was really good. He was good in The Man Who Fell To Earth.
The Hubger had a fairly original vampire death sequence.
Merry Christmas Mr Lawrence
@@nicholasbarrett3018 Still need to see that
For me, Spielberg's great fault is that he doesn't trust his audience. He never just puts the story in front of you and let's the material work on you in an organic way. He's always got to overdo it, there's always a false note, a closeup held a bit too long, a speech that's a bit too on the nose, a misjudged musical cue. It's like he's always got to wring that last bit of emotion out of you, and the result always crosses over the line into feeling manipulative.
Condescending and manipulative are good ways of putting a lot of his movies from Schindler's List onward, I think (there are some of his earlier movjes I haven't seen, so he might have been guilty of this earlier).
That was the case with Shiledler's list; at times almost mawkish.
Couldn't agree with you more.
That's why I now prefer John Carpenters The Thing over Spielbergs E.T.
@@davidfrost901hen I was kid I thought ET was going to be PETER COYOTE because in the trailers he looked like he was wearing a spacesuit
Found your Channel about a week ago, subscribed and rang the bell and have been binging your videos on walks to work since.
That Spielberg Hollywood sheen doesn't age well. But I do love some of his films. Catch Me If You Can is an underrated banger.
Hook was also one of my first movie going experiences. I still adore it. I think Williams score completely carries the film on its shoulders.
Every time I get on TH-cam there’s a video of your that I haven’t seen 😂 here we go!
Schindler's list teaches us that even if you don't have the power to go and kill Hitler and change a society, you can at least go for meaningful victories and resist.
You’re right, and that is an important concept, but some people are desensitized to subtly of meaning.
Yes!
I saw “Crash” on release and thought it was terrible. I couldn’t get that it won the Oscar. I think it’s viewed now as one of the worst choices for “best picture”.
I totally disagree about Schindler's List. I saw it again when it was re-released a couple of years ago, and it's still powerful. His best film, really.
I'm sorry that you can't see how much of a cinematographic abomination that movie truly is. One of the worst films ever.
@@aldriel8274 Are you a holocaust denier?
@@aldriel8274 You don't see a lot of movies do you?
@@curiositytax9360 Not liking a movie and declaring it one of the worst ever are two different things. Anyone who declares Schindler's List one of the worst films ever is being ridiculous. On a technical level it is incorrect.
@@curiositytax9360 you need therapy
Maggie your almost at 50k subs should be 100k honestly but congrats ✨👌✨💪✨
I’m pretty sure Spielberg disowned Hook somewhat himself, so no harm done there.
Thought you were talking about Cronenberg's Crash! Phew.
Another awesome episode, as always. Your take on movies, the choice of words, the duration are all perfect, really like this channel, keep up the good work, thanks!
She's something
Hook is good. I remember so many details about my first viewing of it in the theatre, the car ride there, etc.
I recently watched Poltergeist with my daughter and i hadnt seen it since I was a kid. I was fully expecting it to not hold up but I was happy to be wrong about it. I had a new appreciation for Jobeth Williams after it was over.
There's a lot of great moments in Hook. I love the baseball scene, Peter finding his happy place, Dustin Hoffman telling Peter he will wake up the same dead beat dad he was as his hook hand grinds and sparks... I could go on. The artifice doesnt bother me cause it almost seems intentional.
I don’t think that Spielberg played it safe with Munich and Saving Private Ryan. They’re extremely violent.
Maggie, just wanted to say that I really appreciate your time and effort with these videos.
You've basically become my only go-to TH-cam movie reviewer. Even though I disagree with your take every now and then, like the "Mission: Impossible" franchise and Hans Zimmer's music haha.
Yeah I guess Maggie is OK, but she's got some wack puke takes sometimes. Like when she said she wasn't buying "the whale" movie. She said it wasn't convincing enough. I was like WTF maggie that is some real gobshite if you ask me. But she alright sometimes.
My biggest problem with Schindler's List is after learning how much of that history has been falsified
I'm experiencing the opposite effect on certain movies I saw as a young guy and was "meh" about but years later love and consider great films i.e. An Unmarried Woman, Straight Time, True Confessions (weirdly, 2 & 3 same director, Ulu Grosbard). That said thanks for this video. Would love to hear the reversals from - to + someday.
Love your channel!
This channel is underrated AF
No, it’s about right.
Agree, I definitely love Red Letter Media, Brad Jones, and even much of Critical Drinker’s content but this channel is far more cerebral and refreshing
As a new viewer of yours, I must say I've really appreciated and enjoyed your commentary on movies past and present. It's refreshing to hear a critic who is well-viewed, thoughtful, and articulate, as I myself try to be. Not sure if you're looking for future topics, but I have one you might consider that might require a bit of thought: What year in movie history, recent or years old, would you consider a true benchmark, which contains several of your favorites? 1939 is the popular choice, but I hope you have an even more creative selection. Keep up the good work!
Thank you so much. Excellent topic discussion. I'll add it to my list to get to.
That is a most thought-provoking and interesting topic for discussion.
Why is 39 a popular choice? Is that the year Wizard of Oz came out?
@@stopthephilosophicalzombie9017 Yes, and also ''Gone with the wind''
Good video. As someone who gets tired of hearing about things "not aging well" (PC connotation) y'all are nailing the TRUE "not aging well".
“Precious” for me… I remember being absolutely shocked by it when it first came out and now I just see it as misery porn for the sake of misery!
I felt that way about that movie upon its release. It’s so over the top it’s comical. Even Monique is ridiculous over the top. She’s good at the quieter scenes like the final scene, but the constant screaming, the arm flailing like a tube man and even tossing a fucking TV at her daughter just became hilarious by the end.
I always thought it was trying too hard to be Oscar bait and it's really just a lifetime movie with a little more of a budget.
Thankfully, anyone who has ever suffered sexual abuse, knows you're a moron.
When she grabbed that chicken. Wow!
Wow your almost at 50k?!!!!
I can agree with certain criticisms around the ‘Hollywood’ feel of Schindler’s List, but once the argument starts to flirt with “Spielberg should have made a different Holocaust film”, I can’t agree. He’s well aware of the horror of the Holocaust, but elected to use a tiny slice of that monstrous era of history to find the way ‘humanity’ survived amidst the suffering.
Sure, you could just adapt ‘Night’ into a film and show us as harrowing a depiction of the camps as possible, but I don’t think that’s any more valid than crafting an elegy for the victims and survivors in the way Spielberg did with Schindler’s List.
The movies tackle significant historical events they make the huge into something small.
Ethan Hunt is NOT James Bond. He's a moral hero.
Not sure why Misson impossible franchise made it into this discussion as I thought fallout was a great modern action film that for its genre, it offers great acting, set pieces, decent plot and of course action and delivered with heart and passion! These films have grown in quality and I'm really looking forward to Dead Reckoning 1 and 2! I'm also a fan of the Craig era Bond films ie. Casino Royal, Skyfall and No time to die. These six films make for two great trilogies on physical media in the modern action genre along with a variety of classic films and genres ie. musicals, westerns, horror, film noir and sci-fi modern and classics! Anyway, great channel and content, always enjoyable!!!
What is Fallout?
Most of the mission impossibles are very dated and feel very much like the decade they were made, goofy crashes, silly slo-mo etc. Fallout is modern and refined
Fallout is one of the best pure action movies of all time in my opinion. So many jaw dropping set pieces by true masters of their craft
@@Brantlins I find that the Bourne movies haven't aged very well either. They seem super silly nowadays, with the clichéd amnesia plot really seeming stupid especially. The only part that seems to hold up is the car chases. Oh and the shaky cam is still as annoying as it ever was.
@TheJackTheSnake you are talking purely about the 2nd one and parts of the 3rd. The 4th, 5th and 6th ones are all great
Great channel. Munich is for me Spielberg’s best…it strangely doesn’t seem to have much of his normal imprint on it.
Completely off topic but that hoodie looks so comfie
"Stripes" humor hasn't aged well.
Thx for all the great Content🤩There's an interesting interview with Michael Haneke on YT, were he criticizes Schindlers List and Spielberg... Especially the Suspense-Shower-Scene...
That sweater looks comfortable by the way.
She looks like she did coke all night, rolled out of bed, and recorded this video.
I think it would be interesting to start a convo about Films You Couldn’t Make Now.
Blue Velvet
Clockwork Orange
Never On Sunday
Five Easy Pieces
are a few that come to mind..
The second text box's corner being right at her mouth was funny.
Spielberg actually hates Hook himself. He's said he'll sometimes rewatch it hoping to find something he likes in it but he never does.
That's probably why he throws so much shit at the wall. He likely felt the film getting away from him and is trying to get something to work.
@@spanishprisoner No lies. Search on youtube "Steven Spielberg interviewed by Kermode & Mayo". Try the 10 yr old video with a closeup thumbnail of his face in black and white.
@@spanishprisoner this is the interview he did with Simon Mayoth-cam.com/video/cnwQDgssrwk/w-d-xo.html
@@spanishprisoner I've heard in the past that he doesn't like Hook.
I disagree 100% with Hook and Schindler’s List. Those are both really great films.
Good list. I still think Schindlers List is a good and important movie, but not an all-time great and not even Spielberg’s best. I have a soft spot for Hook, because it really showed me how much great music can affect a so-so film. MI Ghost Protocol is my fave as well, I think because Brad Bird balanced the drama and outrageous so well.
One for me that hasn’t aged well is Braveheart.
Now THAT would be a good crossover movie: Peter Pan and The Lost Boys.
Peter Pan’s crew are called the list boys. It is not a reference to the vampire film.
Jackson Littlewood's comment on Schindler's List echoes what Terry Gilliam said about it, s. "Terry Gilliam criticizes Spielberg and Schindler's List"
DFL is my favorite movie critic!
a cricket landing and it starts singing if you wish upon a star Im tripping right
Spielberg’s Saving Private Ryan and Schindler’s list are GREAT historical referenced movies. Get with it girlfriend. Keeping history alive is important.
Hook is meant to have a childlike wonder to it that many adult critics don't get, with its stageplay theme park look.
Agreed. I’m wondering why it’s on this list. It was never a classic or even a very good adult flick. It’s cool fun for kids, which is its point.
I remember them making a big deal about Hook 🪝 that the film was shot on the same studio lot as wizard of Oz . 😮 Years Peter I’m like sooooo what 😂!!
I still love hook. It's a solid rendition of peter pan, well paced and John Williams score makes certain scenes slap. 😅
David here from Sebring Florida, I been a movie buff for over fifty years and I don’t think you understood the movie Hook 🪝. I just watched it again in 2023 and I thought it was very good movie! Not perfect but very good! I thought it was very well done. I will say that there was what I would call a lot of filler in it, do you know what I mean? There was some very old bits in it, as old as movies are, like the food fight. It all most felt like it was for adults not kids, so many grown up issues. The movie had some great lessons in it. Family should come first! 😊 I had tears in my eyes at the end and I think that’s what Mr Spielberg wanted. I hope you give it another try. See you at the movies 🍿
Completely agree. Hook displays the types of awesome fantasy backyard treehouse set pieces we all WISHED we could play on as kids.
No way not to respect your take on Schindler's List... but, man, did we see different films in that one, and I think it is one of his four or five best to this day. Vital, beautifully structured, immediate in how it presents the terror, pain, and joy of its subject. it brings us in beautifully paced steps from the outskirts of this time right up to being face-to-face with the places of death, and then lets us back out, as it must. But it leaves a strong mark. I saw it three consecutive weekends when it was released in 1993, and was absorbed each time. I was equally absorbed watching it on blu-ray three months ago. To each their own, I suppose. But one thing I can never agree Schindler's List is is at a remove. It puts the banal evil right in your lap.
On the subject of films I liked a lot more as a kid: The Cat from outer Space :)
Yeah it's trendy to dismiss it now. It's a brilliant film and much more complex than she let on.
@@DanLyndon you can say that about any commercial film based on a real life calamity. SL is a literate, intelligent, brilliantly crafted narrative film. Is it flawless? No. Is it great American filmmaking? Yes.
Hating Schindler's List has become the trend for whatever reason, I wouldn't put it on the same level as The Godfather 2 or Jaws but I still think it's a really good movie.
@Steven Watchorn completely agree.
Call me a simple man, bit I have seen it twice and both times it made me cry so in my view it is perfectly good movie.
The only critic I have ever heard that makes a lick of s sense was Kubrick's who was working on his own film that he abounded after he found out his friend was working on one.
He said that the Holocaust was about losing while Schindler's List about winning.
Been going through Spielberg's catalogue with the release of the fablemans' & couldn't make it through 15mins of hook (I went to see it on its release in my younger days) and I think it's the right film for him but the wrong time it probably would have faired better between his tin tin & the bfg films as the graphics would help fix some of the issues.
Hook was always terrible. I’m surprised it was a childhood favorite for anyone. It was panned at the time.
@@Tolstoy111 I remember going to seeing it and kind of enjoying it but even at that age recognizing I was watching something that wasn't as good as it was built up to be and remember heading home trying to figure out why I hadn't enjoyed it as much as everyone else, their are ingredients that work in the film robin Williams was huge star at the time and force of nature, Hoffman is still probably the best thing in it and bob Hopkins is solid as usual and even if he makes a bad film it's still going to have a little bit of that Spielberg magic but non of it was enough to save the film, I kind of knew it probably wouldnt have aged Any better since I'd last seen it but didn't expect it to be as bad as it was.
Always hated that term cause it completely discredits films that was the product for there time and is not a fair assessment to have that kind of negative mindset.
What Hollywood film before Schindler's List had that look and feel? It sounds like you just don't like Classical Hollywood technique. The objective quality of his films is no less valid than the "immersive" (and tedious and simple minded) approach of "Come and See". People don't go to see his latter films because films aimed at adults do not draw audiences to theaters anymore. He should be praised for not chasing the Marvel zeitgeist. Since you talk about SL so often you should finally just screen it again and really review it with an open mind,
I think Hook is solid until he finds out he’s Peter Pan. Just found you’re channel and subscribed by the way.
"Macy's Day Parade"? Yeah, you're a new yorker. 🙂
I was 5 years old on the January day that mom and dad bundled up my sister and I and took us form our north NJ suburb to Rockefeller Plaza to go ice skating. 🙂
New Yorker? She's a Hispanic woman from Texas dude...
Any plans to review Aftersun? I found that film extremely moving and captures memory really effectively
why don't you review it then?
Agreed with most of these... But not with _Labyrinth._ Adore it. Not everything about it but most everything.
The Schindlers list critique is wild to me. Post-modern criticism for a renaissance story… why use modern critique for antique notions?
I disagree about Schindler’s List. It’s an incredible film. However, I agree Spielberg hasn’t made anything interesting in a long time. And he plays things way too safe. Maybe the last movie of his I appreciated was Munich. And that’s almost 20 years ago!!
That's why i wish Kubrick had made the Aryan Papers..
Come and See is both brilliant and utterly bleak..The director's wife,Larisa Shepitko made another brilliant WWII film,The Ascent,eight years before Come and See
I would also add The Cranes Are Flying to that list
Schindler's List is awesome and I also loved the Fabelman.
I have to respectfully disagree on Schindler’s List.
It still delivers that gut wrenching punch 30+ years later, especially the scene with the girl in the red coat; I am sorry, it is nothing but gimmicky and with Williams extraordinary score makes you tear up every single time. Ok if you expect to see artistic take in the vibe levels of Kubrick, Angelopoulos, Tarkovsky or Ozu then you will be severely dissatisfied with the result. Having said that you cannot call it with a serious face “too Hollywood” either. The filmmaking pallet used is so totally different to Hollywood blockbuster style. You can tell by the way Spielberg has completely changed his whole shooting style (no fancy crane shots, zoom ins, dollys, fast edits etc). Kaminsky’s lighting and photography is absolutely masterful and totally different to what Spielberg had done before.
As far as Kubrick’s comment on the film, Christiane herself (Kubrick’s wife) has debunked that statement. Kubrick actually loved Schindler’s List (despite the fact he was working on his own Holocaust film) and did talk to Spielberg about it afterwards.
That particular argument came from Terry Gillian’s infamous video on the topic of Spielberg being a comforting director and that the end of Schindler’s List traumatic and sad as it was yet Spielberg managed to wrap a hopeful story around it - Schindler’s successful attempt of saving some Jewish people - and therefore wink “hope” to the viewer at the end. And somehow that was a comforting ending. No I am sorry but it wasn’t. I and most of the people I know that came out of that theater were an emotional wreck ‘cause the final taste we got from the movie was not Schindler’s good action but the tragedy and horrors of the Holocaust and what those people went through. That message was far more overpowering and loud than Schindler’s story that was used as a core guidance for what was wrapped around it. So at the end of the day I’d say the message was received with a sledge hammer to the stomach. You don’t have to go completely cynic to drive your point.
And that applies to other serious films Spielberg has done. Some have hopeful endings (Saving Private Ryan, Lincoln) other have cynic ones (Munich) but all have a artistic taste (especially Munich) that very few filmmakers can bring to the celluloid.
It’s also hard to believe that the blockbuster guy who made JP the same year delivered something so different and has continued to do so on so many other occasions. That alone speaks for Spielberg’s ability as a filmmaker and guts to move outside his comfort zone. Cause as much as I love Kubrick, Bergman or Polanski they wouldn’t be able to pull of JP, Jaws, Close Encounters or Indiana Jones.
Does Spielberg always get it right? Of course not, many examples to go by. But Schindler’s List was one of those cases that he absolutely nailed it (Munich and SPR the other two) hence why its place as a timeless classic on the AFI has been rightly solidified and to this day is considered, along with The Pianist, the most truthful and horrific accounts on the topic.
PS: Come and See is a great film but not as masterful as they’re trying to make it. I can easily mention 3-4 other war films way better. Das Boot, Stalingrad, AQOTWF, Apocalypse Now, Ran, BOB, SPR, Platoon.
Hook is not Spielberg's worst that has to be 1941. Crash's Best Picture is perfectly easy to understand. It is all about Los Angeles where nearly all the Academy voters live. No mystery.
Mission Impossible's last several film are the New Bond films for our present time doing what Bond did in the 60s and 70s. Bond franchise has forgotten how to be entertaining and nearly all of Daniel Craig's films have been duds or unBond like with the exception of Casino Royale.
Movies don't age. The art doesn't change with time; the scenes stay the same over the years. It's the audience who age and change.
Yep, that's the conclusion I've come to as well.
Bingo
Excellent point
This is just semantics. When people say a movie doesn't age well, they mean it no longer has the same effect it once had.
Yes they do, like everything does. A big percentage become obsolete and senseless, completely ridiculous and pointless, others just endure because their level of importance or quality content gives them the power to go across all eras like moving beacons for humanity. Also known as masterpieces, also known as mainstream cheesy dumb popcorn bullshit for the mind controlled sheep especially in the US.
i saw Schindler's List for the first time pretty recently and i definitely appreciated parts but overall i was disappointed for the reasons you said. plus i didn't like the idea of focusing on a "good nazi"
I think conventions change. Bond used to hit women but nowadays only a villain can hit a woman, never a hero character. Political films don’t age well either because world events change. Films about human nature and human psychology age the best.
I will like to see Shindler list by Ingmar Bergman writing and directing or Kubrick with same budget
That is funny about hook and labyrinth ... also shindlers list is very uninteresting ... I went to see hook at the cinema when I was in primary school ...
I watched Bubba Ho-Tep recently, and this time it felt like a cheap Goosebumps episode.
😂. Is that movie meant to age well? Lol.
@@matg5760 LOL you are right but I remember been so much better
As much as I loved it the first couple of times I saw it, it really doesn't stand up.
@@matg5760 What's that supposed to mean?
@@HOTD108_ the movie is so ridiculous that i never thought of it as aging or not aging well. At least not compared to what was discussed in the video.
I never fell for the “Crash” hoopla…but I was in my 30’s when I saw it. I turned it off halfway through.
"Ladyhawke" (1985) was great at the time, but the 80's synthesizer background music is quite jarring nowadays.
Comparing Mission Impossible to Bond is like conidering buying those off-brand lego-clones.
They’re the same thing, right?
Think your take on Spielberg is dead on. He started his career doing edgy work and making some truly great films ("Sugarland Express," "Jaws," "Close Encounters," "Raiders," "E.T.") but he wasn't winning those Best Director and Best Picture Oscars. When I saw "Schindler's List" I thought moments like the little girl in red were screaming "Give me the Oscar!" and I wasn't surprised it worked for him. I am a child of the 70's and 80's, and Speilberg will always be a hero to me based on so many thrilling moments he provided me growing up at the movies (a couple favorite memories: being at a kiddie matinee for "Jaws" and jumping out of my seat as a theater full of tykes screamed bloody murder when the head rolled out of the boat bottom, only to subside when an older kid yelled for everyone to "Shut up!!," and seeing "Raiders" at a preview screening way up in Northern California, wherein we rarely were given a chance to do this, and no one had a clue about the movie- I thought it was going to be a boring Western and was awestruck). He certainy warrants an ample armfull of Oscars; I just wish the bias against the genres (Adventure, Sci-Fi, Suspense) he so wonderfully toiled in early on hadn't prevented him from winning Academy Awards for his greatest works.
Just curious where you place the Color Purple? Good Stevan or bad Stevan?
@@homerjs225 I enjoyed it when it came out (haven't seen it since, but it would be worth another look), but also thought it was more Oscar-baity than the previous Speilberg output and was annoyed that "Oh sure, now they're talking Academy Awards, with him directing a serious drama" when I thought he should have had several in the bag by that point for superior films.
Schindler's List has held up beautifully though. It did not look like any Hollywood film ever made before. It's much more complex than people let on.
@@Tolstoy111 The Academy completely agrees with you.
@@slc2466 Not sure if that was meant to be negative. I don't really care what AMPAS thinks. In this case our tastes aligned.
I like it and has a lot of nostalgia but 1976 King Kong.
Hook isn't perfect and has some dumb moments but still is one of my favorites too.
The following articles may be of interest:
- "10 Classic Sci-Fi Movies That Haven’t Aged Well"
- "10 Things From Blade Runner That Haven't Aged Well"
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Disagree with Schneider's list. Being "too Hollywood" is what makes it good years later. I just finished watching come and see because of this video and that movie is the one that didn't age well. It's pretty much unwatchable.
Mmmm We are going to have to have a friendly debate about the recent mission impossible films
I appreciate your point of view, but it is so wrong
LOL, I agree with you, the first two movies are easily the weakest and this is one of the few franchises that got better later on. Also, most Bond movies are pretty boring and forgettable. Craig only has one great movie under his belt as Bond which was Casino Royale.
None of those films I cared for all that much the first time I saw them, except Labyrinth which I still rather like.
Y'know, I don't see Spielberg's historical movies that way. These aren't Brit/Mirimax productions, they've moved from subject to subject and created movies about subjects in history and science which always flummox everybody else who tries. Virtually the whole movie world agrees that moviemakers need to engage more with the world, so here's the world's #1 director of escapist fare putting the world in touch with issues that matter, and a lot of people resent him for it. His historical movies aren't 'issue movies' like Aaron Sorkin's or Stanley Kramer's. The historical movies just get us inside the heads of the people to whom all these issues matter most. Put them together, they form a kind of primer on what it means to be American in our era, and I think there's very serious value in that.
The fact alone that the most successful popcorn/blockbuster director will go out of his comfort zone to take on subjects such as the Holocaust, D-Day, 70s terrorism in Europe, American Civil War politics etc and tackle them with such a fine artistic panache and maturity is a remarkable feat in itself. Is he Kubrick, Tarkovsky, Bresson, Goddard or Fellini? Of course not, those are artists of the highest calibre and form in their cerebral/artistic aspect of filmmaking. And I am sure even Spielberg himself would admit he is nowhere near their vicinity. But hell if he didn’t do a remarkable job with Schindler’s List, Munich, SPR, Empire Of The Sun. His artistry and transformation of another side of himself showed vividly in these projects and dare I say touched artistic elements taken from directors such as the ones I mentioned and executed extremely well.
Now let’s see Goddard, Coppola, Polanski, Tarkovsky etc pull of Jaws or Close Encounters, Indiana Jones or Jurassic Park?
Tarkovsky tried to put out his own version of 2001 (after Kubrick’s masterpiece) and failed IMHO. Solaris is awful and dull, especially the 1st half. And that comes from someone who adores Stalker, Mirror, Andrei Rublev and Ivan’s Childhood.
How is it compared to the Pianist?
I love david lynch work.
Touch of Evil aged well. The opening shot was so elaborate, might've been the earliest I saw that kind of gritty camera work & it seemed about 20 years ahead of it's time. Only 1 actor in it was too dated & silly (the employee at the hotel). that's a well made classic that aged pretty well though. it's hard to think of movies that didn't. Sunset Blvd seemed ahead of it's time too. I'd recommend those 2 to anyone who's just starting with the classics. If you like dialogue, The Maltese Falcon. I got a kick out of the old slang in that one.
What about that they got a white guy to play a Mexican?
@@miz4535 I never thought about that. He wasn't my favorite part of the movie, but it was also a long time ago so things change. That's what acting is though. You play characters that may be different from the actors' actual personality (or traits). It requires a suspension of disbelief, which requires a great actor. People who claim to want diversity, even though they may be well-intentioned, unfortunately they're taking part in the same worldview they criticize. Keannu Reeves isn't really a trained assassin. But people like him as John Wick. No one would suggest that only a trained killer should have been hired for the role. Dustin Hoffman played a woman in Tootsie & an autistic man in Rain Man. He's neither, but it doesn't matter bc the only goal should be to hire the best person for the job. Otherwise you'd be discriminating against the hardest-working & the most talented people. No matter which way you spin it somebody's going to be left out (or discriminated against - sans connotations). So while I admire the intent behind the ambition of wanting racial purity in casting, the irony is its equally discriminatory. Whether you hire a person because of race, or whether you won't hire them because of their race, both mindsets are focused on the wrong thing (I.e., the color of their skin instead of the core of their humanity). We shouldn't judge people by the color of their skin. Just their merit as humans, or in this case actors. Anything other than meritocracy is regression not progress. This is 2023. We should be 50 years past thinking in those terms. Even the whites who claim that they want diversity to provide opportunities for different ethnicities, I don't think they realize how condescending that is. It's pandering. People want to be recognized for their character and who they are, not simply what they look like. Like I said, it's well-intentioned but more condescending than they realize. My hope is that in my lifetime we'll move past race. It shouldn't even be a consideration
@@scoutwithoutclout Ok if adults played children and vice versa, and women played men and vice versa, you have no issue? But really in older films it was always white people playing other races, not the other way round. So that's the problem. You comparison to their job is ridiculous.
The films may not have aged well but I'm sure of something that did.
I have a soft spot for toxic avenger
Can not disagree more on this Schindler’s List take.
I agree. Having talked to people who’s family lived it, a lot of folks during the timeframe seemed to appreciate its work. *shrug*
@@mypersonalopinionhat’s nice and all but what she’s saying in the video is due to her frustrations with spielbergs transition from more daring and expressionistic films he used to make to these ones that are very tropey and oscar baity. i like schindlers list but i agree w her, it’s very hollywood and full of tropey scenes that felt really odd. like adding suspense to whether showers are gasoline or water. or the nail scene. the topic of the holocaust isn’t the problem, the pathos and every detail in its filmmaking can appear really gimmicky and very safe for a period that was horrifying.
@@tacosarethebest7377 we shall agree to disagree. Have a good day.
@@mypersonalopinion you as well 👍🏻
Crash was highly criticized at the time - it is terrible. A lot of people were shocked at the time Oscar win.
Billy Jack. I saw it in the 70's and thought it was great. Now? What a crapper. 😊
All I could come up with was The Porky's franchise.
I mean…so, so, so much in cinema has been aped from Schindler’s List. I think looking at it through the lens of modernity is maybe a blurry lens.
It’s just about maturing. I remember thinking Rambo, and the Christopher Reeve Super Man were the best. Now I can’t understand why anyone liked them. They are cartoonishly bad.
You are henceforth banished to The Bog of Eternal Stench 😅
On Hook - man, he also did Rufio dirty, din't he?
Please review Aftersun
You may like it or not, but Schindler List hasn’t age a bit!
Please could anyone expand for me the criticism of Schindler’s List? I agree that there’s something off about it but I can’t put my finger on it.
It’s silly criticism. The idea that it should have been about something else is bad critical theory. The idea that a “subjective” approach is inherently superior to the relatively objective POV in Schindler’s list is merely an aesthetic preference.
I am not trying to sound mean. I just feel like this video is like those kids with the fake bubblegum cigars trying to sound sophisticated. Man, just enjoy the films. Not everything has to be Oscar material or “Preachytainment”. Hook was fun. It had Robin Williams. Labyrinth was weird, and Bowie’s music is connected to the weirdness of the film. I’ll take Goonies or Dark Crystal anytime over a lot of the noise produced today. And Schindler’s List told a story no one else really knew at the time. Who knows where this is all going. With AI taking over, Disney imploding, and Hollywood drowning in its own confusion, I am just hoping the next Ghostbusters makes it out of strike hell. And now everything is just a remake or a reboot or a resomething. Wait until your next film was written by ChatGPT, Midjourney, Deep Fakes, and Dall-E. As an OCD sufferer who has been in tech for over 3 decades, we might be grateful for those old movies. At least they weren’t simply a video data file a server puked out that was completely created through automation and was entirely constructed through trend metrics that Google data mined. *shrug*
Just to add perspective, I am in tech. We always seem to sound like bubblegum smoking, sophisticants…. Thats why we are littered with acronyms everywhere.
Braveheart. The fact that the majority of it is completely made up takes away a lot of the gravitas of the movie. Was once a top 10 in my list but now its a tough watch.
Speilberg replaced the guns in ET with walkie talkies, I don't feel like I need to add to that.
I do think Hook has aged well, I don't think it was a good movie when it came out, but a sound stage film looks good now in the digital age. I don't mind films like Muppets or Ninja Turtles, with an extremely artificial appearance. I don't mind when films don't even try to look real and just acknowledge it's make believe.
The guns being replaced with walkie talkies hasn't been the case since the mid-2000s. Spielberg undid that mistake almost immediately.
@@HOTD108_ some sins are not to be forgiven ;)
Both him and George Lucas making some of the most bizarre and highly unnescessary changes in the 2000's.
early marvel/phase whatever. those theatrical toy advertisements are the modern day batman '66 the movie.
thank goodness Encino Man and Son In Law didn't made it onto your list and incidentally both movies has Pauly Shore.
hook is worth for Dustin Hoffman alone