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- The Makarov has workable grips to begin with, but they aren't the best out there and many American imports have horrid grips. The solution to MANY complaints about the Makarov is the Fab Defense grip made in Israel. They come in left or right-hand configurations and offer improved texture, a palmswell for better grip angle, a relocated magazine release, and a substantial beavertail to stop slide bite and give you a good, high grip. You can get them in Black, Flat Dark Earth, or OD green colors. If you want a set of these grips, search for them on eBay and order them direct from Israel. I have no affiliation with Fab Defense and did not get compensated in any way. These grips were purchased by the owner with his own money. Enjoy!
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Wow, that's a great addition for the Makarov!
Really glad I found it. I think a few other channels reviewed it, but I like to put my personal stamp on it.
That mag release is super clever and great feature!
I thought so to. I was dubious it would work, but it works well. It was mentioned that the release might accidentally actuate, but I didn't immediately sense that would be a problem. It sits higher than where I rest my thumb. It does work positively, though. It's not just a gimmick.
Thank you for making this video. Got it, installed it, and shot it. Fantastic upgrade!
Great to hear. Thanks for watching!
Welcome back. Nice review on those grips.
Thanks. Was hoping nobody knew I was missing, LOL.
I've had one one my Makarov for 2 years now and its great!
Awesome Video I am getting this grip! .. I have the tab pulled up now. I hope you will allow me to use your platform to note some great points. If you can get a good Bulgarian Mak you will love it! 3 years now my EDC is the 9x18 Mak. It feeds Hornady Critical Defense.. over 800 rounds..Flawlessly plus they expand everytime and penetrate deep giving the best of both worlds.. Almost 1800 rounds later with ball ammo had ZERO problems. Also when decocked it locks up the slide, hammer and trigger (SAFE) .. disengage by dropping the safety down (like those of us that love the 1911). I practice double taps long trigger pull D.A. then quick follow up in single action. Mine was manufactured in 1980 I paid less than $100 for it with 2 clips and era holster 3 years ago. watching the torture test made me love this gun again!
Good info, thanks. I have an early East German one and absolutely love it. I don't concealed carry it, though. It's just too pretty.
Perfect! Just received and installed mine! Thank you for the recommendation!
What site did you order your grip from?
How much brother?
Good install vid as nice grip as that changed the whole look and feel of the gun from what I seen as right on....Good stuff...
Thanks, Scott. Great to hear from you as always. I do like the look for the Factory grips on my East German gun, but I don't much care to shoot it with them. I'm installing the Flat Dark Earth grips on my East German when I do the full review on it and hope to have that up soon.
That should be a fun project since it is your firearm....Any new news on your R51 being resolved as I don't remember so well....Good stuff...
Nothing new on the R51. It's keeping my Mauser HSC company on the shelf in the safe; it is just another gun I don't want to sell but I hate to shoot. I did take it apart and polish some of the flashing on MIM parts. That seemed to make it smoother. I will probably take it out and put a box or two of quality factory loads through it, but that might not end up on video. It's not dead... but it's on the back burner. I'll probably wait till Remington officially (quietly) discontinues it and make an "I told you so" video.
Sounds good as thanks for the update and make some more vids for me to enjoy...LOL...Keep up the good work sir....
I hope all is good for you since it has been awhile and Happy New Year and best to you.....Good stuff....
They look very comfortable
Good looking grip.
Thanks for the viewership. Love your channel.
Work great too
Glad to see you back, although it's a bit weird to hear you talking about something that isn't an R51.
I'll talk about it more in an update video, but I did the R51 videos and blew out my shoulder shortly thereafter. I had a few more videos in the can and then the TH-cam Gun Channel and AdPocalypse happened. My revenues dropped 80%. The shoulder is stable now but I have lost most of my ammo money. Thanks for the support. There are other videos in the works, but the heat index is 110. Probably September before I get back into the swing of things again.
Or maybe never. They started demonetizing my videos, beginning with all the ones I was making making money on.
I bought one for my Russian Makarov 380 fit like a glove assembly was easy what a difference it makes
Glad to hear. Yeah, they feel great. Only complaints I hear are from people who don't like the looks or the style. Thanks for watching!
Welcome back. My thought is the beavertail makes it harder to conceal the pistol, but otherwise that looks like a nice grip for the pistol.
Thanks for noticing I was gone. Yes, the beavertail does extend the length of the gun a bit, however length is third in priority for concealed carry. The two dimensions that matter most are height first and then width. It's the reason that Springfield Armory felt compelled to introduce 4" versions of their XDs compact single-stacks.
There are times when overall length is important. If you watch my everyday carry video, you'll note that I carried a 7.5" Super Blackhawk when I lived in Alaska. It rode in a vertical Shoulder rig. The problem I had was that when I was hunting and took a knee or squatted to glass for game, the hip holster would nose-dive into the ground. I also carried a 12-gauge pistol grip in a back scabbard while fishing and had the opposite problem. I'm already 6'3" tall and going through brush, the stock would catch on everything OR the barrel would hit the ground when I sat down. I feel like if I could get the Glock 34 with a Glock 26 height frame, I would have no problem concealing it.
RyeOnHam i like the Radom P64 more than the Makarov. Stuck a fiber optiv front sight on it. Weaker hammer spring, extended magazine relief, wood grips on order. Fir woods either a CA bulldog, a 5 shot Ruger 44 (gp 101) or a S&W m25-5. Varies on mood. Glock 17 or a 1911 for when problems are likely.
I cannot shoot the P64. The slide rides too low. It's a decent design, though.
These little pistols are so heavy by modern polymer standards. I suspect the KGB didn't really need full concealment. By the time you saw the first one - his partner had already 're-educated' you.
wish it had a star on it then it would be epic and i would buy one
You mean a Star of David because it is made in Israel or do you mean the communist star because it's intended for a Russian-designed gun?
@@RyeOnHam Either one would be cool, but I'd rather have sharp stippling, for better grip. I may buy a couple of extras, just to stipple.
@@fortj3 I did the swap. Try it out for yourself to see if you feel it needs more of a Talon grip feel. I'm really happy with how much nicer the Fab grib feels. Still got that Makarov sharpness to it, but far more comfortable to shoot for extended periods.
I had to use a washer for the screw cause the screw was getting in the way for the mag to go in. But with a washer you can go extra tight on the screw. They should've include one with the grip . It's a excellent grip btw. A must have for makarov.
Interesting. What model do you have? Russian? Chinese? East German?
@@RyeOnHam I have the Russian Baikal .380 version.
Same here on the Bulgarian
Same for my Russian
That is a sweet grip
That is Sweet !!
Let us know if your thumb accidentally releases the magazine while firing the gun. It looks like it's right in the thumbs way. And secondly, is that thumb safety also a decocker? As always , thanks for another good video.
Yes, the thumb safety on the Makarov works as a decocker, like the S&W autos and Beretta M9. I will report back on the mag release activating on firing, however I did not notice other people having that problem. I did note in the video that your thumb sits lower on the gun compared to the old grip. I have a full review on the East German PM Makarov you see in this video coming up. I already filmed the 'before' shooting sequence. Will do the tabletop and 'after' shooting sessions and I'll make sure to highlight that point. Thanks for your continued support. Always great to hear from you.
I have them on two Mak's never had an accidental mag release.
Same here. Got the left handed version of this nice grip and have zero issues with accidental mag drops.
Looks like a Walther grip framp now like my p99 very similar palm swell
Very comfortable. Not a familiar feeling grip to me, but I don't own a P99.
That grip makes me want to buy a Makarov
Yeah, worlds better. Turns a safe queen into a workable gun. Looks weird, but feels great.
cool
i added a fab grip to my russian ij70 380acp. results are awesome, best $45 i have spent on a gun. ij70 eats any ammo, especially cheap russian steel case rounds, naturally. with the fab grip it is a soft easy shooter.
Glad it helped you. I got used to the thumb-forward mag release really quick and love mine. Thanks for watching!
the handle kinda reminds me of a Sig
I do not believe so. I sold my double-stack about 20 years ago.
You are godlike.
If I do say so myself.
Great video, but it would have been nice if you would have compared the two designs side by side from the rear point of view. The review only seem to focus on appearance and sides not the front to rear and rear to front people only talk about them. Good looking grip.
Which two designs, the East German grip with the new Beavertail grip? I'll make sure I get a good shot if I do the follow-up video. If you check around 8:18 you can see a good shot of the back of the grip. Also, pausing it at right about 9:51 gives you an excellent view. Since TH-cam's adpocalypse, these videos do not make me any money and new videos get demonetized instantly, so it's back to just a hobby. I have walls to paint, grass to mow, and other stuff that takes priority now. The grip seems to bulge at the palm and feels wider in the hand than the originals. Again, I'll endeavor to give you a good view on the follow-up video, maybe take before and after shots as I only own one Makarov. If you have a Makarov, I would definitely recommend these. You won't be disappointed.
I did notice these two views you pointed out, but just a suggestion would have been a side by side comparison off the pistol is sufficient. I know have two Makarovs one is parkerized and the other is not, but does have the Pearce grips which are excellent in their own right, but like the FAB defense ones, for the Parkerized model I just purchased. Just to have a different look all together with no lanyard loop. Thanks for the upload, and yes it'sbad that youtube stopped the monetization.
If you didn't catch it in the video, the one I put the new grip on belongs to a friend so a side-by-side requires some editing. I absolutely hate the Pearce grips, but I do understand some people like them. It's all in your hand shape, I suppose. I do not have a whole lot to complain about with the East German grips, but they are certainly old-school. I found that when shooting Gloved, the Makarov would sit too low in my hand and I would have to adjust my grip so that the slide did not clip the glove.
Hello Sir, I know this video was put up in 2017 and you may not be able to answer this question.. Maybe someone else can.. Why does the trigger fire when it is cocked and the safety is switched on ?? When I pull the slide back to chamber a round and I, then, rotate the safety to the on position, the hammer flies forward and will actually fire.. Is this a known issue with the Makarov IJ-70, or is something wrong with mine ??
The manual safety is not firing the pistol in normal operation. A more appropriate term for what it is designed to do would be 'releasing' the hammer. In fact, it does this the same way the trigger does, by tripping the sear. When you use the manual safety, the hammer falls against a block, rather than striking the firing pin. This block remains in the way of the firing pin until you take the safety off.
If you first make sure you gun is unloaded and the magazine is out, look at the rear of the slide. There is a slot there that the hammer falls into. On the left side of the slot, there is a small protrusion of metal. This is part of the safety that sticks out into the notch. Assuming your safety is off, this should match up with a recess in the face of the hammer, allowing the hammer to fall all the way and hit the firing pin. When you put your safety on, it should cam this piece of metal up and in the way of the hammer while, at the same time, it trips the sear and allows the hammer to fall safely on the hammer block.
If this is not happening, there is something wrong with either your safety or your hammer.
I do like that!
It's kind of a dream to shoot compared to the grip that WAS on there.
Why haven't you made any new videos? I used to watch all your reviews.
Thanks for your loyalty. I do have several videos partially done. TH-cam instantly demonetized this and other previous videos. It takes me anywhere from 4-8 hours to prep and film my tabletop reviews, like this, and about twice as long to do the range reviews. Then it takes about 3-4 hours of editing and about 12 hours of rendering. After all that, I don't get paid a cent for doing this. After gas, ammo, etc. I was paying to post videos.
At about the same time I was filmight the editing the Makarov video, I tore the labrum tendon in my left shoulder and was out for about three months. I just haven't gotten into making the videos anymore. Those and the Adpocalypse make it too costly to do videos on a regular basis. As a hint, I have something 100 years old that I am doing a video on this fall.
Funny thing, though, I watch beekeeping videos to relax. I subscribe to JP the Bee Man, 628 Dirt Rooster, Jeff Horchoff, and a couple of local channels. Again, thanks for watching and there will be more, God willing, in the near future.
Good...👍👍👍
Sir can you tell me what that grip is how much it cost most of all where and how to order it
You will have to do a web search with the info I provide in the description above. I cannot sell anything here and listing prices and a web site could get me in trouble with the Googlestapo.
I like the grip except for the hideous beaver tail part. That would require some attention from the Dermel tools and sandpaper.
You miss the point of the grip. The beavertail is the point. Many, myself included, get hammer bite from the Makarov and this completely solves it. There are some fair options without the beavertail out there, but you buy this grip FOR the beavertail. Not all hands are alike, of course, and many people have no problem with the stock grips.
RyeOnHam I can see where that could be a problem for some people. But I've never experienced slide bite with my Mak. Once or twice with the Hi Point but never with my Mak.
Yeah, our hands and grip styles are probably different. The Israeli technique for shooting a pistol is the same as mine. You cinch up your grip so the web of the hand is firmly against the beavertail. This results in a more repeatable grip and grip angle and point shooting is enhanced. This technique is not new. It was taught as far back as WWII for point-shooting the 1911. My father learned it in the Army and fought in the Korean War. He taught me to shoot the same way.
If you look at purely Israeli guns, all the modern ones have a beavertail. If you do a google search for "Israeli Pistols" you'll see what I mean. The Desert Eagle is one example. If you look at their CZ-75 based guns, you see they took a gun that already had a beavertail on it and made that beavertail bigger.
RyeOnHam I can believe that. One example I recall of the oversized beaver tail in an Israeli pistol is the Kareen which a Hi Power clone. And if you do it right you can't go wrong copying the Hi Power. I've owned two from FEG made in Hungary.
I've watch a few videos and read articles over the years about the Israeli and Mossad ( spell check please) and it's very effective in most situations. I must admit that as far as this grip is concerned my gripes with it are mainly based on looks. And I know that's far less important. But I only have one Mak at this time and it's not a daily carry. So I'm guilty of being shallow and not tactical.
Form does follow function, after all. I absolutely love the grip shape, but then I'm biased towards a good beavertail.
Alas these superb stuff is not available in Pakistan, can you send it any how ?
No, I do not sell them, I just bought one.
When I look at Makarov with this grip, I love the Glock pistol.
If you close your eyes it looks better, lol.
@@RyeOnHam Then the risk of closing eyes forever during self-defense would increase.
where do I order after market grips and mags for my married 380
Married 380? If you mean "Makarov", then you'll have to do a google search. The grips in this video are for the single-stack Makarov and were made by Fab Defense. As for magazines, you can Google Gun Mag Warehouse. I don't sell anything here nor can I provide links.
I do not care for the extended beaver tail. Extending past the frame and slide makes it look as if it was
not made for the Makarov. I have small hands so I have never had a problem with slide pinch from my M-1911A1 or my Detonics Combat Master or any other semi auto I have fired.
Having small hands does not disqualify you from owning one of these. True, I have orangutan hands and need the beavertail, but the magazine release relocation is also a good idea. In truth, the Makarov is a great gun for about 80% of people. The other 20% absolutely need the beavertail. While it may not look like it's designed for the gun, the gun was designed for smaller people. The pistol had been sitting in my safe so long that it REALLY needed this to get some love. I envy you and your normal hands. Thanks for watching!
I removed some of the beavertail from mine.
Jiawei
7 分鐘前
THIS THING CAN USE FOR DOUBLE STACK makarov (MP654K/PMM) ?
No. Just the single stacks.
@@RyeOnHam THANKS BRO , SAD
Does it fit to baikal 442 12 shot makarov ?
No
@@RyeOnHam
Ok thank you
I have a 380 mak and hate the rear sight on it. Where can I find one like yours and how do you like it?
This rear sight was a factory-installed one from Russia for the American import market only. You cannot, to my knowledge, retrofit it to a gun that is not already so-equipped. The only real advantage is the ability to adjust for elevation for different loads, which is arguably only REALLY applicable to the .380 model. Windage could already be drift adjusted. All things being equal, I ALWAYS prefer fixed sights.
I know in one of your videos you replaced the adjustable rear sight thought right? Cause the one on my Mak is annoying
Only thing I've ever done with Makarov sights is drift them for windage.
gunpartswarehouse.com/pistol-parts/makarov-pistol/ij-70-fixed-rear-sight.html
Does it fit the double-stack Makarov?
No.
The magazine release doesn't work very well in my makarov
With this grip installed or in general? In what way does it not work well. Is it too stiff? Too light? Mags dropping free too easily or not without great effort?
You may have installed the grip wrong or the grip is defective. They work really well to release the magazine, I changed out my grips also. No problems.
Any chance where I can find those iron sights ?
Those are standard on many Russian imports. They aren't aftermarket.
wonder if it works with a cz82
No, it does not. The CZ82 has a pretty decent, if abnormally wide, grip. I have one. May end up in a video in the future, but there are lots of vids out there. It would have to be some new and different info to make it worth my time, I believe.
where can this be brought
Google "fab defense makarov grip"
Personally I prefer the Russian pm dozer grip way prettier and easier to install you should check it out if you haven’t already
Yeah, not my cup of tea. I have to have the beavertail. Don't really care what it looks like, but form follows function somewhat. If it looks comfortable, it will generally be. The Fab Defense one is.
@@RyeOnHam i can understand that I’m just a traditional type of guy to each their own
@@stalecoffee9649 If it makes you feel any better, the East German Makarov in the video is still original. Can't say as much about my Bulgarian, though.
Would the pm g fit a double stack Makarov 380?
No, the double-stack gun takes completely different grips.
RyeOnHam thanks for the quick reply.Does fab defense make a double stack version ?
@@kanakakealoha2425 no it just seems to be for the single stack only
How hard is it to take off once you install it?
I haven't done so yet. Probably easier than installing one.
Where can this be bought
Just google Fab Defense Makarov Grip.
I want in Pakistan anyone help me
Очень забавно смотреть подробный обзор американца на замену комплектующих отечественного пистолета :) в то же время, учитывая факт того, что короткоствол для российского населения у нас запрещен :)
Мне нравятся все пистолеты. Русский или американский. Машина не волнует.
Very cool! You are a great video maker. I have followed your videos on the fucking piece of shit Remington clown pistol R51 bullshit joke of a firearm. I have several Bulgarian Makarovs, and would trust my life with them LONG before I'd EVER stick a R51 in my pocket for defense!
Thanks for the support. Yeah, the Makarov is a solid performer. I have never owned a Bulgarian, just my East German and several Russian. REALLY hard to like any other after you've owned the East German one, though. I'll have a full review of that one up eventually along with some shooting with this grip on that gun.
will it fit on a CZ-82 ?
No, it is for versions of the Makarov. The CZ-82 does have some good grips available.
I am an American but not a human being.
Well, you may not enjoy the feel of this grip then, but congrats on your English and grammar skills. May I ask what species you are?
good... i am the 666 liker
U are wrong bro, it wasn’t build in the russia or in russian federation , it was build in USSR / Soviet Union. Soviet Union included 15 soviet republics . That’s why USSR.
It’s huge difference, you have to know it.
YOU are wrong, bro. It was manufactured in the Russian Soviet Federative Socialist Republic. You are wrong to assume that I don't know. If we're going to get that technical, I would start sounding like a robot. It's Russia, Dude. No need for pedantry.
lop off that beaver tail and it'd look fine. Looks awful with it
If you'll pay for the plastic surgeon to alter my hands so the original gun does not bite me, fine. Form follows function. Congratulations on having better shaped hands than I.
That grip looks like hell & ruins the nice lines of the Mak.
Okay, but did you see the gun before? Also, did you shoot the gun before? With my hands? Do you prefer the old rubber crappy import grip or this one? You know this is an import, commercial gun, not a Russian military gun, right? I cannot shoot the gun comfortably and avoid it biting me without this grip. So, a gun I can shoot or a gun that looks sorta original (but not because it's not). I think I made the right choice.
Also, that's to your eyes. I think it looks good.
The ugliest grips I have ever seen.
Yeah, but they feel nice, are good quality, and they add functionality the original grips did not have. It's also a matter of taste. Do you want your gun to look good or do you want it to function? Form follows function. The Glock is a perfect example.
Ugliest grip EVER!
Most comfortable Makarov grip ever, so it's a compromise.
The ugliest grip ever!
Feels great, though.