When I was graduating from high school in 2003, I was just beginning my obsession with distance running. I chose to do my senior project on Steve Prefontaine and I must have watched this movie, as well as a lot of documentaries and the movie “Prefontaine”, at least ten times. I also read the book “Pre” twice in a row. When I presented my project to my school principal, he was blown away by the biographical information that I had compiled and the running statistical analysis that I had provided projecting what Pre could have done had he not tragically died.
"...and we stopped the clock at 12 minutes and 36 seconds, a world record time. With which Steve Prefontaine would have been well satisfied." Bill Bowerman, Without Limits.
shangrila73eldorado The man held every American record between 1500m and 10000m when he was alive. Obviously people have run faster since then, but back in the 70s, Pre was undoubtedly the greatest runner of his generation.
Maybe in America, but ever? Not even close. No world records, no medals. Compared with legends like Bekele, Viren, Zatopek, Gebrselassie and so forth, that's laughable. Even in America, there were guys like Bob Schul and Billy Mills who won Olympic Gold in the 60's.
Billy Crudup's performance is full of great little moments of acting technique. Even entering or leaving through a doorway or getting dressed in his trailer. A great performance and one of my all time favourites 😀.
@jayaybe1 As good as Billy's was, Jared Letos as Pre was method acting at its finest for the future Oscar winner. So great in fact, when Pre's sister Linda visited the set, she was moved to tears seeing Jared transform into her late brother...
@@hawaiisown5064 Lol, thanks for your POV. I hardly think the sister thing is indication of anything. To have a fair comparison, she would have to visit both sets, see both actors in character and then compare.
i think "without limits" is more for people who know about running, more authentic...and better than the jared leto one, so called "prefontaine"...i should have known when i saw that dude from married without children in "prefontaine"
Will easier said than done.. mapping out a race on paper is like trying to beat the clock..this is not the way it works ....its about crossing the line first . Ask viren the strategy behind the race in the moment of the battle field not the WAR where the clock waits...lol.. although at best a world record if a chsen one.
+meksy He did listen and even asked to change his strategy before the olympic final but he didnt. I really believe if he hadnt followed Bowermans advice he would of won in 1972.
Paul Klinger bowermans strategy was near perfect going into it, but since key runners that the strategy was based around didn’t race as expected, the strategy fell apart. Should’ve had multiple strategy’s tho if certain things didn’t happen like they did in that 5000
"Listen?" See "Prefontaine" - he LISTENED to Bill Bowerman AND Bill Dellinger - "Bedford's going to go out and you stay right on his butt. Then the last 4 last laps you're going to take over - put the crap in all the kickers legs." Bedford didn't go out and the pace was a crawl for 2 miles - the last mile 3 kickers had tons left in the last lap to overtake Pre.
As much as love Jared Leto, this is the best movie about Steve.
agreed
Agreed. This one was much more accurate about the real Steve, even tho Jared is a very charming actor and did a good job in his own film.
I agree but also this movie was better funded
Str8up. To run any other way is just chicken shit. If its a pure guts race, no on can beat me. They can beat me, but they will have to bleed to do it.
@@xxwhispersxx2856 Jared is a great method actor - so much so that Pre's sister Linda was brought to tears upon seeing the transformation on the set.
When I was graduating from high school in 2003, I was just beginning my obsession with distance running. I chose to do my senior project on Steve Prefontaine and I must have watched this movie, as well as a lot of documentaries and the movie “Prefontaine”, at least ten times. I also read the book “Pre” twice in a row. When I presented my project to my school principal, he was blown away by the biographical information that I had compiled and the running statistical analysis that I had provided projecting what Pre could have done had he not tragically died.
Get... A... LIFE!!!
I also did my sports dissertation on him. I loved him.
What did your statistics suggest he could have done?
"...and we stopped the clock at 12 minutes and 36 seconds, a world record time. With which Steve Prefontaine would have been well satisfied." Bill Bowerman, Without Limits.
What do you think he would have accomplished?
Personally my favorite has always been the scene with the two of them at the back of the bar.
Prefontaines enemy was the clock he wanted a world record.
and himself!
This was a great movie
0:49 Prefontaine puts elbows on table, 0:50 his arms are under the table.
He was that fast
@@cousinleigh1470 The table must have been full of chicken shit.
Consistency is key
The G.O.A.T
You must be billy !
“It doesn’t matter if you win by an inch or a mile, winning is winning.”-Dom Fast and Furious
That’s a fiction movie idiot come back down we’re in reality here
@yolodancers Pre was just granny shifting lmao
He was best distance runner ever
how can you say that when his times are clearly not the best?
shangrila73eldorado The man held every American record between 1500m and 10000m when he was alive. Obviously people have run faster since then, but back in the 70s, Pre was undoubtedly the greatest runner of his generation.
You mean middle distance.
Maybe in America, but ever? Not even close. No world records, no medals. Compared with legends like Bekele, Viren, Zatopek, Gebrselassie and so forth, that's laughable.
Even in America, there were guys like Bob Schul and Billy Mills who won Olympic Gold in the 60's.
@@MrPjw5 In America sure, but not globally.
That's a hell of a view to have.
If pre could he would have sprinted to the whole thing all out and not let up
Billy looks nothing like Pre and yet he pulled Pre off so well.
Better than Jared Leto...and I think he does look a lot like him.
Ugh 2 more seconds you missed the BENCH SLAM!
Billy Crudup's performance is full of great little moments of acting technique. Even entering or leaving through a doorway or getting dressed in his trailer. A great performance and one of my all time favourites 😀.
@jayaybe1 As good as Billy's was, Jared Letos as Pre was method acting at its finest for the future Oscar winner. So great in fact, when Pre's sister Linda visited the set, she was moved to tears seeing Jared transform into her late brother...
@@hawaiisown5064 Lol, thanks for your POV. I hardly think the sister thing is indication of anything. To have a fair comparison, she would have to visit both sets, see both actors in character and then compare.
i think "without limits" is more for people who know about running, more authentic...and better than the jared leto one, so called "prefontaine"...i should have known when i saw that dude from married without children in "prefontaine"
Ed O'Neill is a fine actor.
@Richard Milliken That's Ed O'Neil, not Ed O'Neill. Although O'Neill was with the Pittsburgh Steelers for, as he puts it, "about a minute".
True, but the "It's raining in Oregon so leave your shoes in car" bit was cringe-worthy!
@@MrMZaccone and a top notch shoe salesman also.
And that's why he was just 4th in the Olympics.
Will easier said than done.. mapping out a race on paper is like trying to beat the clock..this is not the way it works ....its about crossing the line first . Ask viren the strategy behind the race in the moment of the battle field not the WAR where the clock waits...lol.. although at best a world record if a chsen one.
Anyway to download this? Am interviewing Crudup and would love to share this clip
+Catie Lazarus www.mediafire.com/download/mfj6e355gvi8vst/Best+Part+on+Without+Limits.mp4
"Okay"
He could have won. But he didnt listen.. At all
+meksy He did listen and even asked to change his strategy before the olympic final but he didnt. I really believe if he hadnt followed Bowermans advice he would of won in 1972.
Paul Klinger bowermans strategy was near perfect going into it, but since key runners that the strategy was based around didn’t race as expected, the strategy fell apart. Should’ve had multiple strategy’s tho if certain things didn’t happen like they did in that 5000
"Listen?" See "Prefontaine" - he LISTENED to Bill Bowerman AND Bill Dellinger - "Bedford's going to go out and you stay right on his butt. Then the last 4 last laps you're going to take over - put the crap in all the kickers legs." Bedford didn't go out and the pace was a crawl for 2 miles - the last mile 3 kickers had tons left in the last lap to overtake Pre.
Yup got that right
@@paulklinger6437 Viren was said to be blood doping.