Sustainiac on a WHAMMY BAR BASS??? | DEMO

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  • Here's a demo & review of a 7-string Sustainiac mod! Keep in mind, this is a temporary setup for testing. I'm enjoying the Sustainiac, so expect a full installation video later this year.
    EDIT
    The battery problem has been solved; I simply had the wrong batteries. Thanks for all the suggestions!
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  • @KahlerUSATrems
    @KahlerUSATrems หลายเดือนก่อน +7

    Wow, that really works well with our bass whammy!

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks so much! Another video like this coming soon.

    • @KahlerUSATrems
      @KahlerUSATrems หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jakekiernan33 got any that highlight our bridge?

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  หลายเดือนก่อน

      Filming that as we speak! Coming soon.

  • @k3r5t1n2
    @k3r5t1n2 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +62

    Peter Steele from Type O Negative used sustainiacs on his basses!

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      I heard! I didn't know until yesterday.

    • @idiotburns
      @idiotburns 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      was going to say, idol of a bass player

    • @themodernguitarist
      @themodernguitarist 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +7

      @@jakekiernan33 Watch their performances at BIzzare Festival 1999 or Tuska 2003, he's definitey using Sustainer-loaded basses there.

    • @Greenlantern115
      @Greenlantern115 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      It was a prototype Fernandez sustainer.

    • @k3r5t1n2
      @k3r5t1n2 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@Greenlantern115 Yes sorry I meant sustainer not sustainiac

  • @daleonov
    @daleonov 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +24

    The suction cup mount is genious! Really cool way to try stuff out

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you so much!

  • @richsackett3423
    @richsackett3423 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    What kind of maniac? A sustainiac.

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Lmao!!

    • @richsackett3423
      @richsackett3423 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jakekiernan33 Love the ambient bass guitar much more than I expected. Maybe do a whole channel of it called "Chords of Sagittarius". Just thinking out loud here...

  • @patrickhunter
    @patrickhunter 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +17

    Dude this is fantastic!!! Can't wait to see more of it and your videos!

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you so much! Glad you enjoy

  • @verticalsleap
    @verticalsleap 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +23

    That temporary mounting solution is really smart. Thanks for sharing!

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you so much! I'm glad you think so.

    • @VarionJimmy
      @VarionJimmy 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

      Agree. That was a real “oh, why haven’t I thought about that!” 😊

  • @davidstone4937
    @davidstone4937 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +40

    I love musicians who go to great lengths for a new sound. Way to go Jake!
    If you want a clean sound, (Less squeak from fingers sliding) consider sacrificing a little top-end tone and try Flat Wound strings. It should produce a very smooth sound and you might even find it preferable as the Sustaniac does tend to amplify only the higher frequency range.

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +6

      Thanks so much! I know what you mean, I'm learning how to keep string noise under control. As for flat wound strings, I've tried them and I greatly dislike them. I might have better examples of less strong noise in my TH-cam shorts section if you're curious.

    • @mjmason75
      @mjmason75 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      @@jakekiernan33 I agree. I can't stand flat wounds for my style of playing, but I can understand why some guys like them for a certain purpose. So yeah, I would just cut the top end a bit myself to reduce the string noise.

    • @DaveyMulholland
      @DaveyMulholland 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      You can get strings between flat wound and normal ones. Called half wound I think.

  • @Shortybeard
    @Shortybeard 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +9

    Something like a USB C Battery Bank could work - modify it to fit in the wiring cavity, you would likely need another small circuit to convert voltage from what the battery supplies to the 9V DC the pickup is looking for. but if you can do something like that, then you could have it all inside, and just a single usb c port for recharging.
    Sounds super cool on the bass as well.
    P.S. - you could just use a small power distribution board to supply both the original pickups and the sustainiac. then one battery bank could serve the whole bass.

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The cavity is really full at the moment, but I'll look into that! Thanks for the suggestion.

  • @Sneaky-Snek
    @Sneaky-Snek 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +11

    that sustain/slight distortion is one of the coolest sounds i've ever heard from a guitar period....

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks so much! It's like a secret weapon...

  • @yakopp7468
    @yakopp7468 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    This is by far the coolest thing I've seen today.

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I appreciate that!!

  • @markfoster_mkfbass
    @markfoster_mkfbass 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Man, this is soooo much better than an e-bow; the e-bow is clunky and hard to keep in the right position over the strings. This was a fascinating video to watch/listen to; wishing you continued inspiration and success!

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you so much! I agree with you

  • @kenjincapers
    @kenjincapers 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +12

    That does sound really pretty on a bass

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks, I agree! I'm glad you think so.

  • @rubbertoedesigns6134
    @rubbertoedesigns6134 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dude this is awesome! Love me a good frankentein’d set up.
    Sounds so cool! Great work

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks so much! I can relate lol.

  • @Ugfromumantman
    @Ugfromumantman 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Strong flute vibes with this little gadget. I dig. Great job

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I agree, thanks so much! I have some shorter videos showcasing better tones too.

  • @leonardosilva-xu2lu
    @leonardosilva-xu2lu 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    your tone is amazing!

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you so much!

  • @lukegarcia684
    @lukegarcia684 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    AWESOME DUDE!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @groovefretboard
    @groovefretboard 2 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I like the tone on those sustained notes with the whammy. Very ambient sounding. Keep at it!
    Speaking of drilling into your bass ha check my patented fretboard mod. Added vertical scallops to allow new bends and pulloffs. The edge of the fretcorner plucks the string to add extra notes to pulloffs / alternate vibrato and more. If you wanna demo 1 I’ll send you a bass. It’s good to try new styles and build skill in new ways.
    As far as your Vai example he actually bends off the fretwire on Blue Powder which gives the technique history.

  • @chuckthomas3479
    @chuckthomas3479 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    For the battery drain issue id take a 9 volt power supply from a cheap pedal and wire it in and use a one spot power supply to plug it in and power it straight off my pedalboard or whatever you may need to set up to use it live. Just put the imput by the imput jack on the side somewhere and or possibly on the back somewhere maybe notched or recessed.

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's true, it could work! The only issue I have with that is I want to be able to play the bass with the sustainiac wirelessly too. Just a preference thing.

  • @richsackett3423
    @richsackett3423 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    You know, you might wire it up with a balanced XLR output and use the +48V to power the gadgets.

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'll look into that!

  • @tommygalusha
    @tommygalusha 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I’ve always wanted to put a whammy bar on my 4 or 5 string and experiment with other bass mods, but those whammy bars are expensive! Anyway, this is really inspiring man, subbed and can’t wait for more of your content

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you so much! I agree, the tremolos can be expensive but I'd say they're worth it.

  • @eightfifty2309
    @eightfifty2309 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Thats so clever to mount a temporary pickup on it like that without routing or drilling. You might need to patent that!

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I appreciate that! Soon I'll get the proper tools to install it for real, wish me luck.

  • @alexskibicki2262
    @alexskibicki2262 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Awesome mod, Jake 😎🤘🏻🎸 it’s fascinating on how you make your bass produce unique sounds with a sustaniac pickup and a whammy bar. Kinda sounds like Peter Steele meets Steve vai.

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you so much! I'm glad you enjoy seeing my experiments💙🔥

  • @pedroleal7118
    @pedroleal7118 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Sounds nice, and it's always interesting to see experiments. Fter years of trying to convince him, a friend of mine had a bass made by a luthier, with a tremolo, he never used it! Your sustainiac sounds like a E-bow (I used it too with my bass.)

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

      Thank you! Convince your friend to lend you that bass so that tremolo can get some use!

    • @pedroleal7118
      @pedroleal7118 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jakekiernan33 I tried for long, and told him it was shame that he didn't used it for anything constructive, except to brag about it occasionly. Since, I have acquired the 'Bigsby' by Game changer (so he can keep it collecting dust. Keep up the good work!

  • @ButBigger42
    @ButBigger42 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Awesome. I remember when I first heard about the Fernandez sustainer and I wanted it so bad.
    I now have a schecter 7 with sustainiac and I love it so much. I want to retrofit all my guitars with one.
    I absolutely love seeing a bass with a tremolo and sustainer.

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks so much! I tried to get a hold of a Fernandes sustainer but they were hard to find for some reason, almost like they went out of business but I'm not sure. I agree, sustainers are amazing!

  • @Marta1Buck
    @Marta1Buck 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Keep experimenting, brother.😂
    I've read the comments and the suggestions are pretty interesting

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks! I agree, lots of ideas down here.

  • @brCharlieNagy
    @brCharlieNagy 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    you're awesome, bro ! :D

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I appreciate it!!

  • @nram3930
    @nram3930 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    This is sick. I might have to get one myself... Though I would probably use it with the added active pickup option - would be interesting to here the pickup by itself.
    As for the power draw, there's a pretty unique solution involving making a "power injector" pedal.
    Basically, you make a pedal with a stereo input where the second channel is 9v (you can get 9 or even 18 volts from any pedalboard power supply).
    With very little rewiring of the bass you can power everything on the bass through the TRS cable, only caveat is that you would have to take this power injector with you - but you can always add switch to turn this feature off.
    If you always play through a pedalboard, or use a specific amp/di setup, this is a killer option.
    Haven't done it yet myself, but if I actually go ahead with this sustaniac thing (I play mostly passive on my Cravin SB5000, if I already add active pickups I'll probably redo the electronics to be fully active as well) I would 100% go for this. There's a few guys that do this and it's reportedly very reliable.

  • @AndreyOrochi
    @AndreyOrochi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That FM Bass in the background shows me you're a man of culture❤

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks! I'm not the average bass player lol

    • @AndreyOrochi
      @AndreyOrochi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jakekiernan33 I can see that 🔥🔥🔥 keep doing the great work!

  • @intehelt8606
    @intehelt8606 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Suggestion about the battery. Install a regular power input for a power source. For power source, use a regular 9V adapter. To make things convenient, attach a power chord along your regular signal cord. The adapter can easily be put nearby the amp. I don't know if interference would be a problem, but since it's DC I don't think it will. And if it does, then you know what your next video is about. :)

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I've thought about this! It should work, but I'd much prefer wireless playing. If I can, I'd like to just pick up the bass and play with the sustainiac like magic, as it is right now. Looking for longer lasting batteries atm.

    • @intehelt8606
      @intehelt8606 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jakekiernan33 I'm old school and didn't even think about wireless :D
      But I guess you could route out a big cavity to be able to put a much larger battery there. Extra plus if you include a usb charger.
      Another thought is buying two usb power banks and connect them in series, which would yield 10V.

  • @MrDanostar
    @MrDanostar 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Great job 👍 very interesting..

  • @richnorris1061
    @richnorris1061 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    I tried it on my Hohner fret less in the 90’s , 1 watt amp feeding the bridge pick-up from the bridge pick-up through a square wave generator, very interesting effect , also we were trying to play a record with a laser and these chaps came with a laser doplometer ( forgive spelling ) that looked at the reflected light and gave an output , soo we pointed it my bass and it came out of my bass stack :-) very cool 😎
    Some years later at the beginning of a certain Bond movie , he had one mounted to his gun linked to his earpiece so it was a listening device , exactly what this device could do :-)

  • @DaisyHead666
    @DaisyHead666 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Peter steele did this to his basses. Sounded incredible!.

  • @leonardosganga3993
    @leonardosganga3993 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I moded a bass to work with an external ac/dc converter trough a xlr cable like a phantom power

  • @jaysantiago9673
    @jaysantiago9673 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That Vai snippet was from Whispering a Prayer right? I never thought of a sustainiac on a bass, great idea man!!!!

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Yes it is! Thank you, another Sustainiac video coming soon!

  • @georgevillanueva6926
    @georgevillanueva6926 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Best sounding base in the game right now brother Noiice influence leads to actual success 😂

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you, that means the world to me!!

  • @j7a1k1e
    @j7a1k1e 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Could you do a LiPo battery mod on the current battery compartment that would provide the output for both the sustainiac and the preamp? If you used a USB C charger board you could presumably use a decent sized battery bank to keep the juice going during longer sessions. USB power delivery is absolutely crazy these days.

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'll look into that! Thanks for the suggestion.

  • @18JR78
    @18JR78 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +4

    Digitech FREQOUT +
    EHX Deep Freeze =
    Similar setup in pedal form?
    I need someone trying this.

  • @nj1255
    @nj1255 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You could try using something like the EMG ES-918 external power supply to power both the pre-amp and sustainiac.

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I could! I'd like to be able to play wirelessly however, but good idea!

  • @houseofsolomon2440
    @houseofsolomon2440 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    That's a good idea. Take em for a test ride before router comes out

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thank you, I agree!

  • @jameslewis2635
    @jameslewis2635 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Instead of a PP3 9 volt battery, why not try using rechargeable battery packs. Another way is to use rechargeable PP3's in parallel which would increase the amount of storage capacity without increasing the voltage, essentially making the increase of power only in terms of their storage capacity. If you are looking to make up a battery pack remember adding in series adds up the voltage and in parallel increases the amp hours.

  • @duncan-rmi
    @duncan-rmi 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    you could run nine volts up a stereo cable, on the ring connection; my old variax does something like that if you don't want to risk running it on batteries.

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's true, I could do that!

  • @GillamtheGreatest
    @GillamtheGreatest 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    could always build a battery pack to put on your strap made of lithium ion cells. would need to see if the bass, or the sustaniac can handle slightly higher voltage, cause 2 in series might be too low but 3 in series is noticeably higher 3s2p (i think is the right way to write it) would be a beefy pack with only six batteries

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Interesting, I'll look into that. Thanks for the suggestion!

  • @HAELLEN_HATECORE
    @HAELLEN_HATECORE 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Do you manufacture these sustainers yourself? Looking to install one “hidden” under the pickup cover on my ‘68 Gibson EBO for an upcoming Bass Vi conversion

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      They are made by Sustainiac and Maniac Music! I don't recommend covering it because it probably needs to be unobstructed to work best. My sustainer is temporarily upside down for testing, these sustainers are meant to be installed just like regular neck pickups.

  • @nelsonporter8387
    @nelsonporter8387 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Oh boy! The velvet schrunchie! 😂

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Lmao, it's a necessity

  • @jarrettfinney4882
    @jarrettfinney4882 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You may have to rig it up slightly as far as placement, but fishman makes rechargeable battery ports that you can use for guitars and basses. There’s a universal one, but with your bass, you’d probably have to make a custom backplate or something to put it on, but that would work. You just plug your bass into the wall and it’s supposed to give you like 300 hours

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I looked into the Fishman batteries last night! I realized my control cavity doesn't have enough room for the universal one. Plus, I already have several batteries that I can just swap if one dies.

  • @erikbrodin2198
    @erikbrodin2198 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    This is very cool! Only 4 minutes in, intrigued. Guess: you have to decouple or have a cutoff switch? Reverse polarity? Had to pause. 2.54 cm is 1 inch. 3.5" is circa 9 cm. Onward. Bravo, innovator!

    • @erikbrodin2198
      @erikbrodin2198 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      9v idea: rechargeable li-ion 18650, three in series with a resistor or some thing, a light that eats up the extra 2v? Bulky tho. Or ac/dc 9v wired? RF interference likely need some sort of isolation, similar to whats happening to require the distance between the pickups. Shielding for the sustainiac? Or lowering power to reduce range of its magnetic field and then make up gain through the pickup outside of the body and cable out, like a jfet pedal but something grounded i would imagine, like a preamp? Seems this is more of a microphone than a simple electric guitar signal. Maybe convert the bass to a stereo output config, but then its a totally different storyall together. Anyhoo its morning I should be drunk by now

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'll see what i can do here, thanks so much for all the suggestions!!

  • @reverendprophet
    @reverendprophet 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    love this video and the idea.
    Here's what you got me thinking:
    If the sustainiac requires the use of one of your pickups but you need your bridge and neck pickup for your own signature sound (as I do), why not build a guitar with a 3rd pickup dedicated specifically to the sustainiac? Can the sustainiac fire off a piezo pickup? You could mount piezos near the bridge so they wouldn't take up a bunch of extra space.
    If anyone tries this, please tag me with the results.

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks! Fortunately i can still use both pickups, just not when the sustainiac is on. If i could get a custom preamp that has the pickups wired separately instead of together, it would definitely work.

  • @coryfeldman-hz2yj
    @coryfeldman-hz2yj 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The ebow does not work very well on bass in case anyone was wondering (and I use tiny strings on my basses). Plus its clunky in the hand.. I love the beginning of pearl jams ten type bass tone!!

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  3 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This is true! I get a lot of Ebow comments so it's nice to see someone who knows what's going on here.

  • @samuelodyuo2566
    @samuelodyuo2566 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Not bad!

  • @richnorris1061
    @richnorris1061 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Put DI box internally and run a cannon 3 pin lead and a dedicated power supply box like phantom power for microphones :-) , would have to have an arrangement of preamp to re amp circuit in the dedicated box for amplifier level output plus DI/ line level :-) I built my own re amp box and it’s great :-)

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Interesting, I'll look into that. Thanks for the recommendation!

  • @peteytwofinger
    @peteytwofinger 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    i have this system on my 6 string. i run a NIHM power pack , which lives in my comfort strap . there is a glass fuse , it terminates in a 2.1mm dc plug . there is a female 2.1mm dc connector on the guitar that lives on the instruments side , about 2 inches north of the 1/4 output . which on this fernandes guitar its on the side . yes , i drilled thru the body of the guitar in order to run the wire and install the jack. i used a 9 volt battery snap , soldered to the jack . connect this to the existing 9 volt snap . so if i choose to i can run the systm as it was designed . but i dont . i have also modified xlr cables to carry 9 volt . i use a pair of wire running out of thr 1/4 inch plugs , about 2 inches , terminating in a heavy duty 90 2.1mm dc plugs . the only timei had any issue was with super hiogh gain patches that also use a flanger i had a bit of noise on one system , but in that instance i was using power supplys not battery packs . if you use a nihm pack you will never get noise . the reason why one would wish to do this ? the life of a 9 volt battery , in sustainer use is 30 minutes .

  • @nunoharris
    @nunoharris 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hi. Whats the brand of the strings that you are using? Thanks

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Hey! The string brand is D'addario. I use the super light gauge (40-125).

  • @takashi.iwasaki
    @takashi.iwasaki 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Fishman has a few varieties of USB-rechargable battery packs for their active pickups.

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thank you for this comment, I legit never knew and I'm going to check that out right away.

    • @takashi.iwasaki
      @takashi.iwasaki 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      ​@@jakekiernan33Glad to hear that. I love what you do. Please keep it up. Thank you!

  • @MichaelEMJAYARE
    @MichaelEMJAYARE 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dumb question here, but just found yer video- Kahler trem, Im assuming? What are the pros and cons? Ive dreamt of a Claypool 29 fret Carl Thompson replica and Ive heard horror stories of the trem
    I have a Sustaniac on my Schecter. So much fun, man. Even if it sounds like shit lolol its just so ambient

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nice! Yes it's a Kahler. Pros include more expressive playing and unique sounds. Because the trem uses a rolling system, your action doesn't drastically change when you use it like a Floyd Rose, plus no locking nut is needed for bass! The adjustability is also versatile and sturdy. And as far as I can tell, the routing and trem DID NOT change the tone of my bass like everyone says.
      Cons include the price and routing. You do have to route a hole in your instrument, but thankfully not all the way through like a Floyd Rose (which is another pro). Of course, the trem is a permanent feature because the original bridge won't fit after the routing is complete.

  • @rscottom
    @rscottom 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cool! Have you checked out the moog guitar? Similar concept but really advanced circuitry to do some extra ‘stuff’! Also, check out Micheal Manring (if you haven’t already)…he uses an e-bow on bass.

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Never heard of moog guitar, I'll check it out. And yes, Michael Manring is very inspiring to me!

  • @BdotRASS
    @BdotRASS 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    It might be a pain to implement, not sure on the kitbashing qualities; but if you want a solid rechargable 9v, look into the pedaltrain volto.

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Will do, thanks for the recommendation!

  • @eljapel
    @eljapel 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    sounds great! but I wouldn't ruin a spector for that, perhaps is time to get a custom build by a luthier?

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I'm willing to risk it all😈

  • @FollowTheLion01
    @FollowTheLion01 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    What about those rechargeable 9V batteries with the built-in usb connector for charging? For the permanent install, you could extend the cable to a mounted port for connecting an external cable. Also, you will definitely want a switch to disconnect the battery if you don't already.

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I see what you're saying! USB batteries are on my list to try next, thanks for the suggestion.

  • @EddieG1888
    @EddieG1888 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

    Can't you wire in an XLR output on the bass instead of the jack, and use a mic preamp to provide power to the bass and Sustainiac?

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That might make things more complicated because I'm not sure if those are compatible with the sustainiac. Right now it's just plug and play as intended by the manufacturer.

    • @EddieG1888
      @EddieG1888 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jakekiernan33 I would imagine that something like the ART Tube MP pedal could provide the phantom power through the XLR safely, and also take the output from the bass, which you could then take a line out of into an amp. Might be an option rather than numerous batteries or even needing a separate power cable.

    • @sirgavalot
      @sirgavalot 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I was gunna suggest a stereo cable and a custom pedal with a stereo input that could pass through the signal to the rest of your signal path and provide +9v (via a psu) to the bass. But maybe having the signal and power live running next to each other might be bad? Or would be a simple mod to the bass and the pedal would be straight forward to build as well

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Might be a good way to blow things up lmao

    • @sirgavalot
      @sirgavalot 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jakekiernan33 you'd definitely want to plug it in sober anyway! I can't remember any of the names cuz it's 5am for me but there are a few guitar models that have had off-board power supplied along the same cable as the signal. Maybe those super 80s-looking Roland synth guitars?

  • @daverice2426
    @daverice2426 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Have you tried a DigiTech FreqOut by any chance? Love it on guitar, haven't tried it on bass myself but just watched a vid titled "Don't FreQout! It's just the DigiTech FreQout on bass!" and it does a lot of what your rig is doing, plus it'll do the fundamentals and even a sub-octave. Plus a momentary switch and even a switch that'll give you just the wet signal. That's a cool, ingenious rig you put together but you might want to check this out before firing up the router.

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Never heard of it, I'll check it out. Thanks for the recommendation!

  • @warthogA10
    @warthogA10 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Is there any way to setup the board to use usb rechargeable?

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      There's USB rechargeable batteries that I'm tempted to try. I wonder how they compare to the rechargeables that i use now.

  • @CBechter
    @CBechter หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    couldn't phantom power from a Mixer or injector help here? You could transform the voltsge down if sustainiac need pure 9V

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  หลายเดือนก่อน

      No worries, the sustainiac is already installed! (Video coming soon). The problem was i was using the wrong batteries, they were not lithium ion.

  • @freednighthawk
    @freednighthawk 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Put a 9vdc barrel jack and use a long pedal cable tied to your instrument cable. No batteries required.

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good idea! I would like to use the sustainiac wirelessly though...

  • @coryfeldman-hz2yj
    @coryfeldman-hz2yj 3 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Steve Vai is known for having several full size whales trapped within his touring guitars.

  • @ericstevenson2188
    @ericstevenson2188 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    What is the difference between the Sustainiac and just using an Ebow? To me it sounds as if you are achieving similar effects.

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      True, they are achieving similar effects! However, a Sustainiac is a very powerful version of an Ebow. The main difference is Sustainiacs vibrate all the strings at once rather than one at a time like the Ebow. Also, Sustainiacs operate based on input from your guitar's pickups, so the sustain is incredibly accurate for each string and note you play, whereas the Ebow just drones one frequency that isn't the best. And more!

    • @ericstevenson2188
      @ericstevenson2188 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well, that answers my question. Best of luck when you are ready to brave the router.

  • @jasonmusic9938
    @jasonmusic9938 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    i just use my FreqOut, and sometimes i grab my Ebow and its super fun, ebow is hard with the bass though, but can work

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      True! That's why i didn't want an ebow.

  • @robertsherertz
    @robertsherertz หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You can run multiple 9 volt batteries in parallel and double the MAH and life with either type of 9 volt. Rechargeables might perform better with the 2 in parallel as well. I have thought about trying 2 18650 lithium ion batteries in series since I have a bunch of the battery boxes chargers and batteries. I think it would probably be the best option next to a wall wart for real. 8.4 volts might do it. I'll find out soon. Some might handle 12.6 volt with 3 in series

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  หลายเดือนก่อน

      I appreciate the suggestion! No worries, i solved the problem. I was using batteries that weren't lithium ion! The sustainiac is fully installed now: update video coming soon!

    • @robertsherertz
      @robertsherertz หลายเดือนก่อน

      @@jakekiernan33working installing my Veyz Sustainer

  • @crazyass666ify
    @crazyass666ify 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    There is a 24 battery mod that uses aaa batteries on eBay

  • @JohnSmithiuyytw
    @JohnSmithiuyytw 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Cool idea and project. check out Michael Manring on ebow and bass too.
    Wish sustaniac would make an 8 string guitar sustaniac and manufacturers made a 8 string fan fret trem.

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Michael Manring is awesome. Sustainiac miiight make 8 string models. Also, Kahler makes tremolos up to 10 strings!

  • @alexcooper2956
    @alexcooper2956 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    what kind of bass is it? and that bridge?

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      The bass is a Spector Euro5LX. The bridge is a Kahler XL4500 bass tremolo. I bought them separately and paid for an install.

  • @jasonjayalap
    @jasonjayalap 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Why don't the rechargeable 9vs work? One option is hard wiring. Annoying, but never runs out. You could power both.

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      The rechargeable 9vs work, but they only last a few hours if I use the sustainiac constantly. That's not terrible, I can still do a complete concert set in that time.

  • @mrchrisbeaver
    @mrchrisbeaver 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    The battery should not be running out fast, i get 5 months out of mine and i play every day. The volume you are getting out of the sustainiac seems quite low next to the initial pick of the bass sound, I'm not sure if it's because it's on a bass or because it's not setup right

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      I'm jealous of your battery. Yes this video was recorded mouths ago, and since then, I've increased the sustainiac gain so it's way better. I've heard the battery thing is a common problem

  • @leowalless9328
    @leowalless9328 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Amazing! Loved this! Feels like there's a groundswell of progress in instrumental music production. Check out Anthony Marinelli viewing the new Osmose synth at NAMM. Not a bass, but so many parallels with this search for the power to control expression!

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Thanks so much! I'll check that out for sure.

    • @leowalless9328
      @leowalless9328 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jakekiernan33 the new 2024 one I mean, not the one from 2023 that's pinned at the top of his channel

  • @veers0r
    @veers0r 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    The title me wonder whether it would be possible to fit a sustainiac into a whammy bar, either magnetically or even with a transducer making the bridge vibrate. The transducer might even avoid the EM interference if it's piezo based. :)

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I wondered this too. After my experience with the Sustainiac, I can confirm that putting it INTO the whammy bar is completely impossible.

    • @veers0r
      @veers0r 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jakekiernan33 I should have been a bit more clear I meant something like a sustainiac, not the actual unit :D The sustain block should offer enough room to fit something :) I'm just not sure how to test that brainfart in a economical manner.

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      No worries, I know what you mean! It's a great idea nonetheless.

  • @frankmcnab522
    @frankmcnab522 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    He got that sound from watching Jeff Beck

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Nah it was from a dream he had about playing the guitar like a flute.

  • @dieselpower66.6
    @dieselpower66.6 5 หลายเดือนก่อน

    try placing it next to the 23-24 fret, it should sound better and not interfere with the neck pickup

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I see what you're saying, but that would probably be impossible to mount, and it will always interfere with the neck pickup because both pickups are wired together permanently.

  • @Dooodrhino
    @Dooodrhino 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You got an instant subscribe from me

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I appreciate your support!!

  • @hanniballecter4454
    @hanniballecter4454 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Susmaniac

  • @imacoastaleddie
    @imacoastaleddie 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Reminds me of Tuvin throat singing

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I know what you're saying!

  • @jakekiernan33
    @jakekiernan33  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Not the best demo but it works

  • @poochiecheeks627
    @poochiecheeks627 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Dude you need to try that thing on a fretless bass

  • @ashcatlt
    @ashcatlt 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    You could pretty easily power the whole bass from a pedal power supply without any real modification to the bass itself.

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      I am aware, but I'd really like to just pick up the bass and play with the sustainiac wirelessly. Something i forgot to mention the this video.

  • @chriscuthbertson
    @chriscuthbertson 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    power it from a cable from your pedal board power supply

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'll look into that, thanks for the suggestion!

  • @psychotikpaisano
    @psychotikpaisano 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Hey. I'm from Oregon, if you're interested, I can help you route the body for the sustainiac on a CNC

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I appreciate the offer! I have all the tools necessary to do it myself, my main concern is the relationship between the battery pack hole and the sustainiac hole. I'll let you know if i need help.

  • @idiotburns
    @idiotburns 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    needs a faraday cage

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Interesting suggestion!

    • @idiotburns
      @idiotburns 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jakekiernan33 I used to build the sustainers for the Jackson PC-1, designed by Rick Knotts and Floyd Rose

    • @idiotburns
      @idiotburns 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      An aluminum cage would give you maybe 1.5"-2" away

  • @phatwithduhph2479
    @phatwithduhph2479 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I’ve been following you on insta for a while
    Sick vid
    I’m honestly surprised you only have 300 followers on here … maybe TH-cam needs some of those beastly sweeping vids or a tutorial

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      300?! SINCE WHEN?! Great idea I'll write that down.

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Thanks for the support btw!

  • @Nugmania1
    @Nugmania1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Jake, use lithium batteries only. 2: don’t leave it plugged in all the time and 3: experiment on a lesser price bass

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      1: I am using lithium batteries. 2: I don't leave it plugged in all the time. 3: I can experiment on whatever bass I want.

  • @lowenbad
    @lowenbad 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Charles Berthoud has entered the chat…

  • @matutegamer9255
    @matutegamer9255 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    12k views, damn

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Not sure if I deserve it, but I'm happy!

  • @DD-lc9jv
    @DD-lc9jv 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Hmmm...interesting. But ya do know that there are a lot of companies that make a thing called a 6string guitar and I am certain that if you get yourself one you will be able to get the sound you are trying to get out of that 4string bass.

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  5 หลายเดือนก่อน +3

      Hmmm...interesting. I'm gonna dookie on your pillow tn🥰

    • @OrbitalDeathRay
      @OrbitalDeathRay 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Booooo get out with your tiny strings

  • @elmo7sharp9
    @elmo7sharp9 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    I've had success with a DIY sustainer on a 4-string fretless bass.
    I used a simple single-coil driver, an op-amp preamp and a discrete 2-transistor push-pull power amplifier.
    If I'd used a bilateral driver, it would've been even better.
    This guy is getting no sustain at fundamental frequencies BECAUSE the (guitar) Sustainiac circuit filters them out. I had no such problem...

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Good for you elmo

    • @elmo7sharp9
      @elmo7sharp9 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      I'll bet the Bass sustainiac circuit has larger blocking capacitors between stages, to let low frequencies through... @@jakekiernan33

  • @subs4794
    @subs4794 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lets hear it on a fretless 🎸💀

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Would be siiiick🔥

  • @edjefferson9175
    @edjefferson9175 14 วันที่ผ่านมา +1

    Would be way cooler on a frettless

  • @uniqueYouTubeCreatorHandle
    @uniqueYouTubeCreatorHandle 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    #888 lucky like!

  • @oscarsantos2608
    @oscarsantos2608 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    Lithium 9v rechargeable battery.

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      That's what I'm using right now lol.

    • @oscarsantos2608
      @oscarsantos2608 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      @@jakekiernan33 😋

  • @gupster24
    @gupster24 5 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    I will never really understand why they never made these for basses :(

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  5 หลายเดือนก่อน

      They make 4-string versions!

  • @joelletort6088
    @joelletort6088 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Oh Wow Did he know that the British band 10CC used this way back Also why not use a Ebow each individual strings. No need to drill holes in the bass. Voila.

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      This gotta be satire😭

  • @raulsardeni2372
    @raulsardeni2372 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

    you would have got it easier by using an e-bow

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Tried it, and it didn't work. It's well known that e-bows don't work well for bass, and are inefficient all around.

  • @warthogA10
    @warthogA10 4 หลายเดือนก่อน +2

    Why would any actually professional or even hobbyist musicians view this as weird?
    Music is all about exploration/experimentation, pushing boundaries and the absurd.

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน +1

      Well said, I completely agree!

  • @eddbass1
    @eddbass1 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

    Buy a bass ebow...der

    • @jakekiernan33
      @jakekiernan33  4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      "Buy a bass ebow...der"🤓