I just bought this player along with the 512GB card and am looking forward to using it. I decided to look it up after it came in the mail and was surprised to see a lot of great feedback on it!
I was looking for something like this a few years ago now, and they never really had an affordable option, just the walkman ones. It's good to see a growing market for these- with phones no longer coming with headphone jacks, I'd still like an mp3 player that let me access my spotify too.
I bought this a couple days ago and I really like the design. It really lives up to it's name of being a mp3/mp4 player, only concern i'm having with it right now is all the time i connect it to my computer/laptop ir's not allowing me to transfer/explore the device. I had to rely on bluetooth and SD card methods to gets files into the device.
I've been transferring using a thumb drive and the included otg usb adapter. I know that android usually has a pop up when plugged into a computer that you have to click to allow the computer to access the internal storage over usb.
I have a Hiby R3 Pro Saber and what I've always done is use a USB SD Card Reader to add new files and then I "eject" the card from Windows (always disconnect through your Windows, this ensures that you don't damage / corrupt the card) BEFORE you physically remove the card. Then once I've got all my files put on that SD Card I stick it inside my Hiby R3 Saber.
Neat review! This is going 55 green leafs on Amazon, and it's Android so it's pretty good if we start there. I was planning on buying this, then realized a Samsung Galaxy S4 goes for like 57 green peas on Amazon as well, heck, for 2 dolls more, I can't go wrong with Samsung. However, you do you, if you want an MP3 player, go ahead and buy it, I'm just purchasing based on my needs. Happy shopping. Still, great review mate!
I have an older E5 Play, it has a removable backplate to get to the battery. Can't get inside of a Galaxy, not without practically breaking it in the process. Can we please go back to having swappable batteries? Ugh. I hate permanently sealed electronics...
I must bring up something that I learned about my Luoran M4 device that you did not mention, which is that kernel version 3.4.67 equates to Android 4.4.2. So this device runs Android Kit Kat.
Louran coming out with upgraded "M4 Pro" next month. Two models being released: 2GB-16GB ($80) and 3GB-32GB ($100). Both will allow for app side loading. I think initial MSRP is a little too pricey. Would be great if you reviewed one of the models.
Exactly my sentiments. Wish they would just patch the current firmware and then they'd have a really nice device for the price point. There's no reason to have a MP3 player with this form factor have 2GB/3GB RAM. Storage can easily be expanded with cheap SD. Just not seeing the $30 - $50 ROI with the M4 vs M4 Pro.
on my mission to sideload an app on this device, I have so far gotten usb debugging enabled by sneaking into developer options. I've been trying to use adb to connect but it just shows offline the whole time. But anyways I love the device and it works really well.
-Does it play video clips directly into mp3 or do I have to convert them before? -If i interrupt a song or a video clip in my playlist, does the track or clip restart from the beginning when i get back into the app? -And is there a random play mode, both for clips and tracks?
Amazing review is seems that is a nice mp3 player, the only bad thing is that you can´t install your own app, but if you enter like to youtube or facebook sites, does it work and how does it work for you? cheers from México bro
Idk if you're still checkin comments I was wondering does it have any issues switching between albums/folders? I have a old timkoo whenever I try switching to a different albums I have to back in and out once or twice to switch over.
I get occasional drops for less than a second when out in public and it's crowded but nothing more serious than that so long as I'm within about 30 ft of the player.
I just got one of these and I cannot get anything to transfer from my computer to the device. It is incredibly confusing. A QR code keeps popping up and when you scan it, it says it cannot open. I am about to send it back.
Easiest way is just to put all your music on an sd card and insert that into the player. No need to mess around with usb drivers or software. If you really wanna use the internal memory it's easy to copy off the sd card to internal using the file browser on the device.
@@sjm4306 I figured out what I was doing wrong. I was trying to move Google Drive shortcuts from my Desktop, and you can't do that. I feel so dumb! But, thanks for your help too!!!
Love the review but have a few questions on this. I have srs-xb41 sony wireless speakers. The system Bluetooth don't pick up speakers and can you download apps to this system. May need another video how too. Thanks
I suspect your speaker may be a newer bluetooth spec and maybe this device is having trouble scanning for it while trying to pair. Is there a way to force your speaker into a pairing mode? As for adding apps, there's no easy way directly from the player, but pushing an app installation via adb over usb from a computer should work so long as you can get a debug connection going.
Not sure about this specific version of android, but usually if you cant guess the unlock pattern you'd have to wipe the device and reset to factory default. On some device this requires either adb over usb to do of if there's a bootloader you can access the setting by holding specific buttons when turning on. The problem is the exact method to do this is specific to the exact model of device as well as the exact version of android. I know how to do this on modern samsung phones, but to be honest I have no idea for this model of mp3 player with a much older version of android.
Can I transfer my music videos from iTunes to this? (Also have the music saved in a separate folder). Does it play audio/video in the same playlist like iPod touch or do I have to hit the audio button and video button separately? Thanks!
So long as the video is unprotected mp4, it'll play it fine. The video player is a separate app so afaik it'll only play the video files and the music app will likewise only play audio files, even in a folder has both types in it.
Hello, I am watching your video, do you recommend me one hundred percent to buy this equipment? Or do you have a better recommendation, I want a player with bluetooth, wifi and other features similar to this one. thank you
It really depends on your budget. If you wanna spend under $60 then this is probably your best option, but if you can spend upwards of $100 then you may be better suited getting a second hand flagship android phone and using it as an mp3 player.
Yep, I was able to test with a few pairs of bluetooth headphones/earbuds with no issue. Sometimes you'll have to reset pairing to get bluetooth buds to pair (exact method differs by model).
There's no google play. Also wont work directly through the apk on the player as the warning to turn on apk installs from unknown sources pops up when you click on an apk, and when you click on the pop up it takes you to the settings menu where the option would be but there's no button to click to enable it. I suspect you could probably push the app install through adb over usb from a computer but haven't tried that yet.
@@sjm4306 -- Hiby for Android is the exact same stuff as what they put onto their standalone MP3 players like the R3 Saber. I've had the Saber for a few years and I love that little thing. The MSEB feature let's you fine-tune the sound way more than just a normal Equalizer allows.
It does run android, but unfortunately looks like the ability to install apks has been disabled in software by the manufacturer (the option to allow unverified apk installs in the settings is missing, so while you can start an install it will take you to the settings page that should have the button that allows it to continue, but it's missing so you can never finish the installation).
It comes with a barebones web browser, but no google play/services. On this model, there's no way to directly install apks on the unit itself. It may be possible to push an install using adb over usb from a computer, but I haven't tried that yet.
You can place files in a directory structure which you can navigate in the music app, or it'll also allow browsing by sorting by artist/album/song title etc.
@@sjm4306 in the video you say almost installed “apk” did you end up making it work ? Curious if you did set the device to “developer mode” (click 6 times on build number??)
This particular model unfortunately won't let you install apps yourself (it may be possible to jailbreak it to do so but I haven't tried yet). There are other models that do allow custom app installs though, I have an upcoming video on one that will so stay tuned!
You should not be making videos about MP3/MP4 players because you consider them obsolete. You want to use your phone. Guess what this is an amazing device. For $50.00 you cannot find a better MP3/MP4 player. You act like every Music video is available in HD and if it is not in HD it is not worth watching. I have hundreds of vintage Music videos that are only available in 480 that are classic and well worth watching. The video quality on this device is very good. This is not just My opinion but the opinion of many people who have done videos on this device. Guess what everyone does not have top end cell phones that are good for storing / playing MP3/MP4 music and video. Countless people have an inexpensive phone $200.00 or less. Also many people who do have expensive phones do not want to risk damaging them or losing them when at the beach, working out, at work. Yes when at work many employers don't allow phones except when you are on a break but they allow you to listen to music on an MP3 player.
I personally still use dedicated mp3 players to this day. I literally have a collection of them numbering upwards of 50 different models lol. When I said they were obsolete I meant that the majority of consumers nowadays think they are, not necessarily me. Sorry if I gave the wrong impression, but I'd totally pick a dedicated mp3 player over even a high end phone any day of the week.
@@sjm4306 Thank you for replying. There are a lot of different manufacturers making MP3/MP4 players so there is a large consumer base that these are being marked to. Apple is out of this market because people stopped buying their over priced MP3/MP4 player. This device is much better than the Apple version the last model being the 2019 version costs 4 times or more than this device. As someone else in the comments said the fact that phones are doing away with the headphone jack is causing a lot of people to invest in an MP3 player. Best wishes to you.
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I just bought this player along with the 512GB card and am looking forward to using it. I decided to look it up after it came in the mail and was surprised to see a lot of great feedback on it!
I was looking for something like this a few years ago now, and they never really had an affordable option, just the walkman ones. It's good to see a growing market for these- with phones no longer coming with headphone jacks, I'd still like an mp3 player that let me access my spotify too.
I just cut Spotify and moving to FLAC audio files. Whole lot better
I bought this a couple days ago and I really like the design. It really lives up to it's name of being a mp3/mp4 player, only concern i'm having with it right now is all the time i connect it to my computer/laptop ir's not allowing me to transfer/explore the device. I had to rely on bluetooth and SD card methods to gets files into the device.
I've been transferring using a thumb drive and the included otg usb adapter. I know that android usually has a pop up when plugged into a computer that you have to click to allow the computer to access the internal storage over usb.
I have a Hiby R3 Pro Saber and what I've always done is use a USB SD Card Reader to add new files and then I "eject" the card from Windows (always disconnect through your Windows, this ensures that you don't damage / corrupt the card) BEFORE you physically remove the card. Then once I've got all my files put on that SD Card I stick it inside my Hiby R3 Saber.
Is it still working? I noticed you posted this seven months ago, but cheap Chinese goods fucking suck and I'm scared to buy this.
I gave it to my dad and he uses it in his car over bluetooth, no issues yet.
@@sjm4306 --- No Skips or Pops in your audio when you're playing songs?
I've been comparing mp3 players in this class for about a month, looking at reviews, videos etc. I think I'm going to go with this one.
I was doing the same whenni heard apple was not making any kind of iPods 😱😭
But this one seems like a good option
Neat review!
This is going 55 green leafs on Amazon, and it's Android so it's pretty good if we start there. I was planning on buying this, then realized a Samsung Galaxy S4 goes for like 57 green peas on Amazon as well, heck, for 2 dolls more, I can't go wrong with Samsung. However, you do you, if you want an MP3 player, go ahead and buy it, I'm just purchasing based on my needs. Happy shopping.
Still, great review mate!
I have an older E5 Play, it has a removable backplate to get to the battery. Can't get inside of a Galaxy, not without practically breaking it in the process. Can we please go back to having swappable batteries? Ugh. I hate permanently sealed electronics...
hi, ineed the fasl file because i dont know the pin to unlock it when it go on. please
This looks exactly like the timmkoo q5 except for the music app
I must bring up something that I learned about my Luoran M4 device that you did not mention, which is that kernel version 3.4.67 equates to Android 4.4.2. So this device runs Android Kit Kat.
Do you mind me asking what's the sound quality with headphones? If it's great or good enough?
Sounds good to me with my sony xm3's. I dont think it can do the higher res bt audio modes but sbc sounds good.
@@sjm4306 Thank you, I appreciate the reply! 👍
Louran coming out with upgraded "M4 Pro" next month. Two models being released: 2GB-16GB ($80) and 3GB-32GB ($100). Both will allow for app side loading. I think initial MSRP is a little too pricey. Would be great if you reviewed one of the models.
Yeah, getting up in the ~$100 price range will open them up to competition to low end and even midrange secondhand smart phones.
Exactly my sentiments. Wish they would just patch the current firmware and then they'd have a really nice device for the price point. There's no reason to have a MP3 player with this form factor have 2GB/3GB RAM. Storage can easily be expanded with cheap SD. Just not seeing the $30 - $50 ROI with the M4 vs M4 Pro.
on my mission to sideload an app on this device, I have so far gotten usb debugging enabled by sneaking into developer options. I've been trying to use adb to connect but it just shows offline the whole time. But anyways I love the device and it works really well.
-Does it play video clips directly into mp3 or do I have to convert them before?
-If i interrupt a song or a video clip in my playlist, does the track or clip restart from the beginning when i get back into the app?
-And is there a random play mode, both for clips and tracks?
does the timmkoo mp3 player have screen rotation on websites
Amazing review is seems that is a nice mp3 player, the only bad thing is that you can´t install your own app, but if you enter like to youtube or facebook sites, does it work and how does it work for you? cheers from México bro
Using the web browser to access youtube/facebook works ok, it'd just be more convenient if you could install the apps directly imo.
Do u know how to do a hard reset? I cant remember my pattern
Is playlist creation relatively easy?
Idk if you're still checkin comments I was wondering does it have any issues switching between albums/folders? I have a old timkoo whenever I try switching to a different albums I have to back in and out once or twice to switch over.
I haven't had that issue yet, sounds like a software bug or maybe a corrupted file is causing the issue.
han tenido problemas con la conexion bluethoot?, se escucha cortado el audio en mis audifonos
I get occasional drops for less than a second when out in public and it's crowded but nothing more serious than that so long as I'm within about 30 ft of the player.
You can screenshot too
I just got one of these and I cannot get anything to transfer from my computer to the device. It is incredibly confusing. A QR code keeps popping up and when you scan it, it says it cannot open. I am about to send it back.
Easiest way is just to put all your music on an sd card and insert that into the player. No need to mess around with usb drivers or software. If you really wanna use the internal memory it's easy to copy off the sd card to internal using the file browser on the device.
@@sjm4306 I figured out what I was doing wrong. I was trying to move Google Drive shortcuts from my Desktop, and you can't do that. I feel so dumb! But, thanks for your help too!!!
Love the review but have a few questions on this. I have srs-xb41 sony wireless speakers. The system Bluetooth don't pick up speakers and can you download apps to this system. May need another video how too. Thanks
I suspect your speaker may be a newer bluetooth spec and maybe this device is having trouble scanning for it while trying to pair. Is there a way to force your speaker into a pairing mode? As for adding apps, there's no easy way directly from the player, but pushing an app installation via adb over usb from a computer should work so long as you can get a debug connection going.
Hola yo soy de México, mi hijo le puso un patron al aparato y ya no lo sabe, exite la forma de desbloquearlo? Ojalá puedan ayudarme.
Not sure about this specific version of android, but usually if you cant guess the unlock pattern you'd have to wipe the device and reset to factory default. On some device this requires either adb over usb to do of if there's a bootloader you can access the setting by holding specific buttons when turning on. The problem is the exact method to do this is specific to the exact model of device as well as the exact version of android. I know how to do this on modern samsung phones, but to be honest I have no idea for this model of mp3 player with a much older version of android.
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Interestingly it has the Phinistec logo on the back.
I wouldn't be surprised if all of these different models were made by one or two factories and given different branding.
Can I transfer my music videos from iTunes to this? (Also have the music saved in a separate folder). Does it play audio/video in the same playlist like iPod touch or do I have to hit the audio button and video button separately? Thanks!
So long as the video is unprotected mp4, it'll play it fine. The video player is a separate app so afaik it'll only play the video files and the music app will likewise only play audio files, even in a folder has both types in it.
@@sjm4306 Great! Yeah the mp4 files are not protected so actually this is a pretty good idea! I think I may have to get one now thanks to you!!
Hello, I am watching your video, do you recommend me one hundred percent to buy this equipment? Or do you have a better recommendation, I want a player with bluetooth, wifi and other features similar to this one. thank you
It really depends on your budget. If you wanna spend under $60 then this is probably your best option, but if you can spend upwards of $100 then you may be better suited getting a second hand flagship android phone and using it as an mp3 player.
@@sjm4306 Thank you very much for your answer
Hey bro! If you still have this MP3 player, contact me. I figured out how to get full Android on it.
I'm interested, I gave it to my dad but he still has it!
The keyboard for Korean is not in the settings. Do I need to download it?
Yes, afaik stock android for western markets only comes with the english keyboard installed.
@@sjm4306 I can't install it. Please tell me how
Will this connect to Bluetooth earbuds? I tried a generic pair of MPOW earbuds and my Samsung earbuds+ and it didn't seem to recognize either pair.
Yep, I was able to test with a few pairs of bluetooth headphones/earbuds with no issue. Sometimes you'll have to reset pairing to get bluetooth buds to pair (exact method differs by model).
Are you able to install Chrome on this device?
There's no google play. Also wont work directly through the apk on the player as the warning to turn on apk installs from unknown sources pops up when you click on an apk, and when you click on the pop up it takes you to the settings menu where the option would be but there's no button to click to enable it. I suspect you could probably push the app install through adb over usb from a computer but haven't tried that yet.
@@sjm4306 I read you can "side load" apk but I'm not familiar with it
@@sjm4306 Does it work with adb commands ?
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So "Double Twist" is the primary Audio App? Is Double Twist as good or better than Hiby Audio?
Never used hiby audio so cant really compare. I use doubletwist on all my android devices and it's great.
@@sjm4306 -- Hiby for Android is the exact same stuff as what they put onto their standalone MP3 players like the R3 Saber. I've had the Saber for a few years and I love that little thing. The MSEB feature let's you fine-tune the sound way more than just a normal Equalizer allows.
I'll have to check it out, thanks for the tip!
I love that thing it has google and everything
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It does run android, but unfortunately looks like the ability to install apks has been disabled in software by the manufacturer (the option to allow unverified apk installs in the settings is missing, so while you can start an install it will take you to the settings page that should have the button that allows it to continue, but it's missing so you can never finish the installation).
@@sjm4306 Спасибо большое🙂
Kitny ki hai
Is it possible to get browser, google etc on it ?
It comes with a barebones web browser, but no google play/services. On this model, there's no way to directly install apks on the unit itself. It may be possible to push an install using adb over usb from a computer, but I haven't tried that yet.
It is a music player what about Music organization???
You can place files in a directory structure which you can navigate in the music app, or it'll also allow browsing by sorting by artist/album/song title etc.
Please can you show me how to make a google account without phone number verification
Please do a video about that
Plase un video hard reset the unlock patron
can ou add apps like games or haves a app store
You cant sideload directly from the player and there's no google play store but you may be able to install over adb using a computer
@@sjm4306 in the video you say almost installed “apk” did you end up making it work ? Curious if you did set the device to “developer mode” (click 6 times on build number??)
Hi,
I'm french.
Can I install french langage please.
Thank you
Non je ne pense pas 🙅♂
Can you put your Apple Music on here
Do you mean an apple app or music purchased thru itunes?
Thanks ..
That mp3 player looks like a phone can u watch TH-cam or watch Netflix on it its has a big screen for a mp3 player
This particular model unfortunately won't let you install apps yourself (it may be possible to jailbreak it to do so but I haven't tried yet). There are other models that do allow custom app installs though, I have an upcoming video on one that will so stay tuned!
Kinda like an android ipod haha
cool !
I might get a different one for my8th birthday
There are quite a few different models out now with different specs/features, so you'll have a number to choose from.
You should not be making videos about MP3/MP4 players because you consider them obsolete. You want to use your phone.
Guess what this is an amazing device. For $50.00 you cannot find a better MP3/MP4 player. You act like every Music video is available in HD and if it is not in HD it is not worth watching. I have hundreds of vintage Music videos that are only available in 480 that are classic and well worth watching. The video quality on this device is very good. This is not just My opinion but the opinion of many people who have done videos on this device.
Guess what everyone does not have top end cell phones that are good for storing / playing MP3/MP4 music and video.
Countless people have an inexpensive phone $200.00 or less.
Also many people who do have expensive phones do not want to risk damaging them or losing them when at the beach, working out, at work. Yes when at work many employers don't allow phones except when you are on a break but they allow you to listen to music on an MP3 player.
I personally still use dedicated mp3 players to this day. I literally have a collection of them numbering upwards of 50 different models lol. When I said they were obsolete I meant that the majority of consumers nowadays think they are, not necessarily me. Sorry if I gave the wrong impression, but I'd totally pick a dedicated mp3 player over even a high end phone any day of the week.
@@sjm4306 Thank you for replying. There are a lot of different manufacturers making MP3/MP4 players so there is a large consumer base that these are being marked to.
Apple is out of this market because people stopped buying their over priced MP3/MP4 player. This device is much better than the Apple version the last model being the 2019 version costs 4 times or more than this device.
As someone else in the comments said the fact that phones are doing away with the headphone jack is causing a lot of people to invest in an MP3 player.
Best wishes to you.
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