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  • @watchfinder
    @watchfinder  ปีที่แล้ว +1

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  • @howardmckenna
    @howardmckenna 2 ปีที่แล้ว +106

    I can't understand the hype thrown at the likes of Rolex, AP, Richard Mille when there are pieces like this on the market.
    This is ultimate watch making artistry at it's very finest.

    • @fabrom4428
      @fabrom4428 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

      It's because the hype has little to do with actual watchmaking and more with projected image and investment value. Let's at least rejoice at the fact that these dynamics keep JLC pieces (relatively) more affordable for us in the know.

    • @howardmckenna
      @howardmckenna 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

      @@fabrom4428... I can't even afford a Casio at the moment!

    • @CDWard77
      @CDWard77 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      @@howardmckenna No, of course.. I meant that relatively. There’s much more bang for your bucks in JLC’s offerings, especially at retail price (which generally isn’t even an option with Rolex, AP, etc..)

    • @RaulEdu33
      @RaulEdu33 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Unfortunately, most people value hype and flaunting prosperity, instead of the actual craftsmanship and technical ability.

    • @jlg395
      @jlg395 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

      Deep in their hearts, nobody actually likes modern Rolex anymore. They're boring and lifeless. Well built, yes, but lifeless nonetheless. What people like is having other people notice their Rolex, because if everyone is being honest, Rolex hasn't had a single charming watch since the Explorer 1655.

  • @omg_stoppit
    @omg_stoppit 2 ปีที่แล้ว +139

    Can I just share just how much I love this new format? Super great podcast format in quick bites, and is nevertheless informative while remaining entertaining.

    • @watchfinder
      @watchfinder  2 ปีที่แล้ว +12

      Thank you very much!

    • @ricardoman21
      @ricardoman21 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@watchfinder Same here! Love from Portugal

    • @zenith7498
      @zenith7498 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Is that Cobie ?

  • @NickDusting
    @NickDusting 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    "You introduce that and everything else looks like crap!'
    Never, ever change...

  • @cl4788
    @cl4788 2 ปีที่แล้ว +57

    This is all very well but aren’t you forgetting Rolex introduced a couple of colours and CROWN GUARDS? That’s the real story

    • @BabyJesus66
      @BabyJesus66 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

      🤣😂🤣

    • @denvernow7294
      @denvernow7294 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

      I hope their extreme innovation efforts get the coverage it deserves.

    • @MusliSelmani
      @MusliSelmani 4 หลายเดือนก่อน

      Rolex je Zidarski časovnik..

  • @watchguy1244
    @watchguy1244 2 ปีที่แล้ว +21

    Rolex :
    Let's change dial, case dimension to make flippers fall for it.
    JLC:
    Let's make mechanical craftsmanship to make watch lovers fall for it.

  • @michaellee3852
    @michaellee3852 2 ปีที่แล้ว +40

    No other maison I can think of flexes harder than JLC, stunning clockwork and watchmaking!

  • @balesjo
    @balesjo 2 ปีที่แล้ว +45

    JLC really outdid themselves this year with the beautiful examples of high-art horology. But I have to say, you held the best for last (IMHO). I've been fascinated by the Atmos clocks since I first learned of them years ago and have highly desired one. But the Atmos Stellar Odyssey is one of the most beautiful Atmos clocks that I've ever seen! Bravo JLC!

  • @Pilkie101
    @Pilkie101 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    How AP remain in the holy trinity is beyond me

  • @mr_c.i.c
    @mr_c.i.c 2 ปีที่แล้ว +6

    This is true technology with no software updates needed to keep working.

  • @j.a.4360
    @j.a.4360 2 ปีที่แล้ว +14

    My tiny wallet cannot be concerned with my tiny mind being blown.

    • @mulemule
      @mulemule 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

      ThinkSmall™

    • @jamesbizs
      @jamesbizs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      I have a big wallet. It’s just empty tho

  • @kevinbutler1968
    @kevinbutler1968 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    Yeah but non of that incredible watch making can beat a left handed crown !
    Well done JLC and so proud I own a Polaris Mariner Date.

  • @Foxrock321
    @Foxrock321 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    I have a vintage 1980 Atmos 540 currently being overhauled ( service ). I thought it was amazing till I saw this marvel…Wow!

  • @alanmcgeagh3475
    @alanmcgeagh3475 2 ปีที่แล้ว +26

    JLC are as good as anyone when it comes to complications and different looks in their really expensive watches. As has been said, their more regular watches suffer a bit in the popular appeal, design-wise. But, they are, mostly, dress watches, they are beautifully thought out and finished (though the prices are creeping up a bit too much). Basically, you buy a JLC to please yourself, not impress random others. When it comes to rarified levels of watchmaking, JLC should be in the "holy trinity" with AP making way for them.

    • @simonrano8072
      @simonrano8072 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Amen, AP is living solely on variations of the RO that is much more a price tag on the wrist. They are well made and all but either they are conservative, lasy or trapped by their own customers but they are definitely stranded at the same place.

  • @siglinde_raw199
    @siglinde_raw199 2 ปีที่แล้ว +8

    Jaeger LeCoultre is still outstanding and plays a different game.

  • @MERKAMGCLK
    @MERKAMGCLK 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    JLC and Grand Seiko are by far my two favorite watch makers.

    • @ayoungtricknamedjim5498
      @ayoungtricknamedjim5498 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Same. JLC are the watchmaker's watchmaker, second to none. And Grand Seiko are just amazing artists with impeccable craftsmanship that can't be beat by any manufacturer in the price range.

  • @jrneri13
    @jrneri13 2 ปีที่แล้ว +13

    JLC does amazing things. I really appreciate their imagination and attention to detail. Well done JLC.

  • @Luciamason34
    @Luciamason34 2 ปีที่แล้ว +10

    Thought they couldn’t be any more bonkers after they released that million pound reverso last year but they excelled yet again. Amazing watch making. Very creative minds.

  • @scuba453
    @scuba453 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    If I owned this clock I would never leave the room.

  • @maxsooderberg
    @maxsooderberg 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    "Just cause LOL I suppose?" honestly brilliant commentary. Love these videos with the two of you!

  • @maxxlindley9425
    @maxxlindley9425 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Your show is better than the Oscars

  • @vulekv93
    @vulekv93 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Damn you Watchfinder, now I want a basic JLC Polaris and AP Code 59 Perpetual calendar... They would look so nice next to my G-Shock Square and Vostok Amphibia.

  • @GonzoJamie
    @GonzoJamie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +7

    JLC completely and undoubtedly won the watches and wonders show - just mind blowing what they have done

  • @skeelo69
    @skeelo69 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Maybe someone should invent a watch called the Tax Return , it shows you once a year on the dial when your tax return is due🤣🤣

  • @Unknown-yx3ky
    @Unknown-yx3ky 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Thank you guys for this video, and thank you everyone at JLC. What a great job!

  • @JJPalma-lx5yn
    @JJPalma-lx5yn 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I love the Watches and Wonders recap. Excellent job. The Atmos is astounding. A true work of art.

  • @-chris-n-lucy
    @-chris-n-lucy 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    You guys are great. That clock is crazy. Wish they made a simpler one with the bellows power thing that regular people could afford.

  • @Gersberms
    @Gersberms 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I really appreciate the dialogue and humor on these super serious watches.

  • @-triumphgt667
    @-triumphgt667 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Wonderful - have three JLC watches and have promised myself an Atmos - just not this one unfortunately!

  • @ayoungtricknamedjim5498
    @ayoungtricknamedjim5498 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    That air-powered clock is a limited run of 10 pieces and costs $653,000 each...

  • @bwallace4241
    @bwallace4241 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I am not able to comprehend a mechanical device that can be that accurate for so long... simply amazing

  • @johnacteson5503
    @johnacteson5503 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    Thank you. The atmos clocks are something I've wanted to learn about for a long time.

    • @ayoungtricknamedjim5498
      @ayoungtricknamedjim5498 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      $653,000, that clock costs.

    • @midas1929
      @midas1929 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@ayoungtricknamedjim5498 You get a desk Atmos from Swiss Francs 6'700 to 27'500. Not that special one though : )

  • @richdelgado3405
    @richdelgado3405 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    As an owner of an Atmos, I absolutely love that clock.

    • @richdelgado3405
      @richdelgado3405 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      @@totoarriba yes. I almost needed to get a second mortgage to pay for it. But yes.

    • @sushimshah2896
      @sushimshah2896 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Damn!!
      May I ask which one & how much did it cost?

    • @steffenbohr3726
      @steffenbohr3726 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@totoarriba true. My JLc 140.8.98s just had a full service which cost me around 1000€. But these watches are worth every Cent :)

  • @esteemedwatches1768
    @esteemedwatches1768 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    That clock. Wow!

  • @vaughanatkinson8421
    @vaughanatkinson8421 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    This is seriously the most impressive releases this year!

  • @roguewave1060
    @roguewave1060 ปีที่แล้ว

    @1:03 "discombobulating" I never heard that word before, thanks for the English lesson! 😎

  • @GonzoJamie
    @GonzoJamie 2 ปีที่แล้ว +5

    JLC are insanely great at what they do

  • @vaughanatkinson8421
    @vaughanatkinson8421 2 ปีที่แล้ว +4

    JLC is right up there with the big boys, and always will be!

  • @denvernow7294
    @denvernow7294 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    One of my favorite JLCs is the Knife. It pays homage to a pocket watch perfectly. I fell it love with it when it was shown in the new Kingman movie. Almost fell out of my seat at the theater when he put it on.

  • @PierceMD
    @PierceMD 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Are the continental proportions on that Earth dial correct?

  • @watchtherapy1068
    @watchtherapy1068 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Wow wow wow, JLC and GS is killing it with these crazy out of this world release!

  • @carlam6669
    @carlam6669 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I bought an Atmos in non-operating condition about 20 years ago and had it repaired/rebuilt soon after. It has been running fine since then and keeps incredibly accurate time. Off by a couple minutes every six months when changing to/from daylight saving time. My only complaint is that it is hard to read the time from a distance because there is not enough contrast between the hands and the dial.

    • @thomashrubecky1663
      @thomashrubecky1663 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      If only you could add a photo to your comment. I’d love to (a) see the clock in it’s current condition and (b) observe the [apparent lack of] contrast between the dial & hands. Do you have a model number you’d be willing to share with us so we could look it up?

    • @carlam6669
      @carlam6669 2 ปีที่แล้ว

      The hands are gold plated. The center of the dial is a cutout circle with a diameter of 7cm revealing gold plated gears and plates. The hands disappear against this background. A white enamel band of 11cm outer diameter surrounds this hole with gold numbers at 3, 6, o & 12 positions and gold tick marks at other positions. I couldn’t find a model number. I recall being told when I bought it that it was manufactured in the mid 1950’s. Must be real gold plating because the whole clock still looks like new. I have a KitKat clock (with wagging tail) hanging on the wall not far from it. It is much easier to read the time on the KitKat clock with white hands against a black body/dial. The KitKat clock has a battery powered quartz movement and also keeps good time.

  • @G0DsFuneral
    @G0DsFuneral 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    Another great video, can you please do a video on Breitling B09 please?

  • @ALEXGIBSONCMG
    @ALEXGIBSONCMG 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    good to finally hear from Co.

  • @TomJones-tx7pb
    @TomJones-tx7pb 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    My brother was a very high precision engineer and for a while he worked for a genius clockmaker that invented one-off seemingly "perpetual motion" clocks that were very accurate and ran on original power sources. One used evaporation of water. Another used a ball bearing that ran on a track.

    • @eh86055
      @eh86055 ปีที่แล้ว

      Interesting. Is there anywhere we can read about this clockmaker? Do you happen to know his name?

    • @TomJones-tx7pb
      @TomJones-tx7pb ปีที่แล้ว

      @@eh86055 At the time I was ignorant of the significance and did not ask my now deceased brother the name of the clockmaker. If he could afford my brother as a high end precision machinist as a full time employee he must have been charging quite a price for each clock. At the end of his career my brother would write computer programs to make the machines that made the machines to either do or check precision manufacturing, including for the semi-conductor industry. He said it was very boring and hands off. In retirement he did deliveries for a high end boat company. One day he was at their facility and they could not figure out how to straighten a 40' drive shaft that had got bent. He said I can do that, and straightened it by hand and eye. He also built parts for the first NASA moon landing at one point. Now I really wish I knew the name of that clockmaker.

    • @eh86055
      @eh86055 ปีที่แล้ว

      @@TomJones-tx7pb Wow, alright! Could you tell me the name of your brother, then? If we're lucky, there could be records of the work he's done online somewhere.

  • @kaypee1972
    @kaypee1972 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How do they do that? Amazing!

  • @kfwimmer
    @kfwimmer 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    You guys are SOOOO GOOOOD!

  • @wisamal-hakim5531
    @wisamal-hakim5531 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    You guys are hilarious.
    Spelegance. Superb

  • @bottomtext5872
    @bottomtext5872 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Honestly that little globe looks so good

  • @henrigraber2741
    @henrigraber2741 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Not by air, but change of temperature !

  • @henrypang4734
    @henrypang4734 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    The clock is amazing!!!

  • @kelvinlow1123
    @kelvinlow1123 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Not really a fan of JLC but wow these are very nice watches by them. Really love your videos. Keep up the good work

  • @davidmulligan42
    @davidmulligan42 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That's some amazing work. I probably don't want to know how much that clock costs, but it's incredible!

  • @jimohmy4468
    @jimohmy4468 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    my brain hurts now

  • @edn.3442
    @edn.3442 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Like usual, JLC never disappoints with their bonkers creations. I would also love to have that sidereal clock!

  • @gmcminitruck
    @gmcminitruck 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    These timepieces are bonkers!
    What an insane amount of craftsmanship.
    It comes down to these questions; 1. do you need it, 2. do you want it and 3. can you afford it.
    The potential customers will answer these questions in reverse order.

  • @DiscoR53
    @DiscoR53 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Maybe JLC could place one of the Atmos clocks on the Moon, on Mars and on Solar Orbit

  • @philnelson2607
    @philnelson2607 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Wow….just wow 😮👌🏼

  • @ggavin9934
    @ggavin9934 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    That Atmos clock is just freaking gorgeous and amazing.

  • @31dktran
    @31dktran 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I need one of those clocks

  • @Rog5446
    @Rog5446 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Amazing!

  • @Arthurzeiro
    @Arthurzeiro 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I've actually met the actress who played the "confused math lady" a while ago, and seeing that meme referenced here of all places gives me joy.

  • @JohnnyADi
    @JohnnyADi 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I'm going to buy the world timer 948. If I get my hands on it I'll contact you guys if you want to make a video on it I can send it over :)

  • @khosimokhesi6273
    @khosimokhesi6273 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I love JLC so, so much!

  • @seansavage714
    @seansavage714 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Sterling engines are cool.

  • @typerightseesight
    @typerightseesight 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have been waiting for a watch that will show you the planets and stars if you point the watch at it. theres an app that can do it solar system scope but you cant import it to a smartwatch yet.

  • @flyboy747uk
    @flyboy747uk 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Meanwhile Audemars Piguet have released yet another version of a Royal Oak in response to this😂

  • @wzk921109
    @wzk921109 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I love the clock.

  • @andyholton7959
    @andyholton7959 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Awesome 🤙🏻

  • @AngusMurray
    @AngusMurray 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Yes my mind is blown, the earth piece alone probably costs 10k 🤣

  • @ivanpavlovski9537
    @ivanpavlovski9537 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Atmos Hybris Mechanica is absolutely incredible.

  • @shiraz1736
    @shiraz1736 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    JLC are on a whole different level.

  • @chrisrice7145
    @chrisrice7145 2 ปีที่แล้ว +3

    I must admit that I was very sceptical about the new style content. Boy was I so wrong. It’s absolutely fantastic, great humour and really easy watching. Please keep it up.

    • @watchfinder
      @watchfinder  2 ปีที่แล้ว

      Thank you so much! We’re really glad you’re enjoying it.

  • @SilenceSupreme
    @SilenceSupreme ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Anything thats constructed with tweezers are instantly 1000 times larger than my wallet.

  • @manangandhi8338
    @manangandhi8338 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    JLC truly deserves recognition of one of the best world watch makers. With these stellar products they are rewriting rule book of holy grail watch makers. Exceptional quality watches. Love it so much.

  • @willricketts6214
    @willricketts6214 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Hello - really interested to hear your view on watch winders…. Yes or No?

    • @ayoungtricknamedjim5498
      @ayoungtricknamedjim5498 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

      Winders are completely unnecessary for the vast majority of modern mechanical watches. The parts and lubrication technology have come leaps and bounds in the past several decades. Even when a modern mechanical watch completely unwinds, it's fine. Most pieces would be completely okay just being wound once every couple of months.

  • @edgeyt1
    @edgeyt1 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    Can we have an Atmos part work from JLC - a new piece from the newsagent every month?

  • @pinkstone5273
    @pinkstone5273 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    JLC is one of the best watch Maker in the world 🌎...
    But I don't really understand that why people paying millions of dollars for those Richard mille plastic toys 🤔

  • @BGPaul
    @BGPaul 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I believe that from your prononciation you are saying “métier rare” which means rare profession. That there are very few people capable of painting a globe on a watch face.

  • @idontnkow
    @idontnkow 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    These watches are insane!!.

  • @peterbradshaw8018
    @peterbradshaw8018 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Looks like a Patek Phillipe 5131J.

  • @VoodooMike
    @VoodooMike 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    It really seems that JLC are untouchable in terms of watchmaking at any sort of scale. There are makers that only make a handful of watches per year that can do it, but the only bigger companies that can even get close are Lange and PP. And for all of them, you'd have to add a zero to the JLC price. Incredible stuff.

  • @TurnRiver
    @TurnRiver 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    How are JLC's not worth more? That world timer is ... mind blowing

  • @alectang1614
    @alectang1614 2 ปีที่แล้ว +2

    I mean I love JLC and their halo pieces like the hybris collection but they seriously need to release some new designs for the average consumer. The lack of direction from the brand is hurting it badly as evident from the decreasing market share for the last few years. I'm a die hard JLC fan and I long for the years when JLC released daring designs like the master Compressor and Amvox series, rather than me-too products.
    As great as the Polaris perpetual is - it is just combining two existing products into one. JLC is better than that.

  • @stephhamilton8100
    @stephhamilton8100 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    Absolutely astonishing pieces from JLC, stunningly gorgeous and beautiful made.
    Maybe a little less taking the p1ss and a bit more reverence was in order boys…just saying

  • @vaughanatkinson8421
    @vaughanatkinson8421 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    The clock, can we call it the upside jam jar?

  • @vamanpatel2733
    @vamanpatel2733 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The efficiency of the 1 degree different is insane... mass produce it and start honing electricity!!

  • @danehardinge8801
    @danehardinge8801 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    If I keep watching I will be bankrupt. Love the WF details and videos of dials, movements, backed up by in-depth knowledge of the brand, it's history and the alternatives

  • @jayebirdjb7143
    @jayebirdjb7143 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Seriously 🤯!
    Till the end of time, Atmos.

  • @misteratoz
    @misteratoz ปีที่แล้ว

    The world timer is the most breathtaking watch I've ever seen.

  • @11THEFEZMAN11
    @11THEFEZMAN11 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    I have an atomos from the 1940’s I finally had to send it in for service, I can’t wait to get it back because it’s always accurate

  • @kevinfox3875
    @kevinfox3875 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    I'm wondering what it is that you guys are smoking, as it's having a serious effect on your brains...The Atmos clock describes itself...it is powered by the differences in atmospheric pressure and has a reversing mechanism fitted hopefully, which harnesses power both on the rise and fall of pressure, delivered by the anaeroid bellows at it's heart. If there is a bimetallic strip here it is used to measure temperature difference in the bellows. However the quantity of energy delivered by the atmospheric bellows is vast in comparison with that off the BM strip. I would think that fitting the strip is superfluous to the energy needs of the mechanism and is likely to have been included by the marketing division rather than than the engineers, in the ever increasing need to increase complications count, rather than be driven by the necessity of this device.

  • @-JohnGalt-
    @-JohnGalt- 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Atmos clocks are horilogical wonders. The pendulum on these things are sensitive, and I really mean sensitive. If you don't mount this thing to a block of granite, just walking through your house disturbs the pendulum (which rotates on a extremely thin wire). These clocks do not like to be jostled in the least. If you ever handle one, there is a locking mechanism at the bottom of the clock that freezes the pendulum in place. Otherwise, you risk damaging the pendulum if you handle this clock without locking it first. Not fun to learn that one the hard way!

  • @pentachronic
    @pentachronic 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The Atmos clocks are probably useless in hot climates like Arizona or Nevada, the Sahara etc. The gas will probably expand and never cool down if the temp remains over 70F or so. Hence no motion of the liquid/gas phase change.

  • @irawanwijaya7951
    @irawanwijaya7951 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    Wholly macaroni........I'm speechless

  • @finnandrei5745
    @finnandrei5745 2 ปีที่แล้ว +9

    This is the company that can beat Rolex, Patek and Vacheron. JLC deserves the spot instead of AP. Just sayin'.

  • @Dave062YT
    @Dave062YT 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    It's not Yager Tom .Just say JLC and you can't go wrong lol

  • @wabalaka1565
    @wabalaka1565 ปีที่แล้ว

    JLC the watch maker of watch maker

  • @ronnytm
    @ronnytm 2 ปีที่แล้ว

    The quick-cuts of the JLC promo video were a bit much.

  • @miclucs
    @miclucs 2 ปีที่แล้ว +1

    WOW