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This man is a machine, I can barely keep up with all these banger uploads. Seriously I've never seen such insightful content put out so quickly, it's like there's a whole team hiding behind the curtain.
@@cookeecutkk which makes sense, but if that were the case he would limit the amount of games he buys and only prioritize the one’s he wants to play the most. That way he saves on money and only spends it whenever he wants to move onto the next game after finishing the previous one.
Always remember, when the Wii U died, everyone was quick to say Nintendo had enough money to be able to have 2 more generations of Wii U type success. The Switch has been the more profitable than their previous history combined. I think it's safe to say they know what they are doing. They not only are the longest running console manufacturer in the industry but their software has been remarkably resilient to more predatory practices such as micro transactions. I'm sure the amount of components they will be wanting to aquire will afford a very favourable discount. Component companies will be falling over themselves trying to get the Switch 2 gig. It's not an exact science and you can't let external forces out of your control let the tail wag the dog. The CEO will earn his money with his negotiating skills rather than his forecasting (which of course they will try to regulate external impacts as much as possible.) I think they'll need to focus on the holiday season and make that as strong as possible (reckon the September Direct will have some big holiday titles.) No sense in them starting to juggle plates with a successful holiday season and managing the Switch 2 hype cycle. Imagine that...here's the Switch 2, but don't get too excited we want you to buy a Switch 1 lol. They'll reveal it next year and launch later. Switch isn't the Wii U. They couldn't wait to write that off and get the Switch out asap. In the meantime, negotiations for parts and components has probably already been sorted. Their commercial team are as competent as their creative teams lol.
I'm not holding my breath for the September Direct, but I will welcome new announcements with open arms. I also think early next year is the perfect time to announce Switch 2. We might get the discontinuation of the OG Switch model after holidays and a price drop of the OLED ($350 to $300).
@@Dairunt1 I'm the opposite. I would be surprised if we don't get another Direct this year. As for early next year, we won't get a reveal in January (folk are skint and disinterest in another console - outside of the fanbase ofc - is at it's peak) or February (because that's not even a real month!) My money is on March. Nintendo will be able to build their profile going into the next fiscal year and get some momentum. (Which puts Metroid Prime 4 as a January title haha! We'll see. It's low profile enough in Nintendo's eyes for it to live there.)
To play Devil’s advocate, I would argue that Amiibos should fall under the umbrella of microtransactions, albeit one with multifaceted use cases and compatibility. Nintendo’s mobile releases also haven’t shied away from traditional microtransactions, and if I recall they’ve even tried out loot boxes for their mobile Animal Crossing release. In recent years it seems Nintendo wants to retire both Amiibos and their mobile excursions, but I still feel it’s stretching the truth to say they’ve dodged monetization practices that have been plaguing the gaming industry.
I'm still expecting it to be soft-announced this year for an early-mid 2025 launch (with a similar 'small library at launch, about one game a month for the first 9-12 months' strategy as the Switch had), but fair point that the noises being made are likely indicative of a longer manufacturing process between soft announcement and launch.
Maybe in November they give a spec sheet and a sneak peak for the launch game(I predict to be DK), then a February blowout with system reveal and more games following a May Release
Unfortunately, there's no easy answer for Nintendo. These are very complicated times, especially financially, and there's nothing that they can do that has zero risk. I hope they don't refuse to do anything because they're waiting for an ideal time that may never come. At some point, they need to actually start producing the next console. You're right that, even if they have to eat less profits or even sell the Switch 2 at a loss, it's still worth if it means actually getting the console on shelves. It's not as if things won't rebound later where they'll make more profits.
I personally think that they should reveal it in Q4 of their fiscal year (Q1 of 2025) so that that way they can get one more uninterrupted holiday boost to the Switch’s sales.
Wouldn’t it be better to support it cross gen instead of holding off a few months? What’s the point of waiting until the Switch and its fans are fully exhausted
I don't really get that sentiment, they would still be making way more money if they released a new console already alongside new games. If we get another year of remakes and minor new titles, the Nintendo brand is just going to start to become irrelevant.
That has been my position, as well, but I believe there is a delicate balance between milking the existent Switch and risking negative sentiments among their core audience. Perhaps, the best path is to enter 2025 with a Switch price drop together with the official announcement of the new device.
@@jimmyelgringitoSaid many times before, cross-gen is not a good strategy, better move everyone to the next generation platform. People buy Nintendo console for their exclusive. NES, SNES and N64 sold well because of Mario and Zelda, Wii sports are exclusive for the Wii. The PS5 and Xbox series X thing is really a marketing thing. It’s like the iPhone 13, is it the next generation after iPhone 12, or just 12S?
@@jimmyelgringitoContinue supporting the switch is not a bad idea, but it have to be massively downscaled, like 3DS in 2017-2019. Big games just have to be exclusive. New generation mean delivering new innovation and exclusive experience to users. You know there is a thing called “console revision”. Nintendo clearly stated they want to take risk with a successor, not a save stop gap solution.
I keep telling myself I’ll wait to get the Switch 2 because there’s no way they’ll not have backwards compatibility this time, but it feels like the release stays a year ahead of whenever I check in with predictions. The Switch already has had an insanely long lifespan considering its relative hardware power.
I think announcing soonish won't hurt the sales, simply because there might be a "fomo" reaction. People that want to get now a Switch on sales or want it for preservation or collection purposes. I personally bought a N2DSXL for 99€ when the Switch was about to come out, or similar I bought a PS4 Slim for 200€ when the PS4 Pro came out. I think there could be a short boost of sales, as soon as a successor is announced. Switch is so big, hearing official news a Switch 2 comes out, will get to even the most casual players after all.
Should change your channel name to The Gaming Forecast, I love your presentation style, reminds me of a proper news channel but for gaming, i get behind this. Great job 💪
I know a lot of games would benefit from a new Nintendo console's power, but I'm here playing my older tate-mode vertical arcade games and rare, touch-screen controlled menus and I'm like... "Can we get more developers developing using the hardware to its benefit?" Multiple control modes including touch screen: Chicory, Coffee Talk, Okami, Hypnospace Outlaw (keyboard and mouse,) Taiko games (not just drums but touch,) Loop Hero, Grim Fandango, Dungeon Warfare, etc. Vertical games: Groove Coaster, Demon's Tilt, Downwell, Annalynn, Espagaluda 2, Dragon Blaze, etc.
Yeah, that’s why modular accessories will be great for switch successor. You just need some sort of locking mechanism like the slide-rail or magnet. What about an console called “Attach & Switch”
I'm so excited about getting a new Switch that I'm considering buying the OLED model, even though I already have the regular one since launch. I play a lot in handheld mode and really want an upgrade... But I don't want to spend 300€ only to have to spend it again in less than a year...
Nintendo should just be a developer for Apple Games or something. Apple's mobile chips are already way better than what the switch 2 will be whenever it will release. The phone I have right now will be able to emulate Switch 2 games at a higher quality than the console itself. That's not a great sign for Nintendo as they try to sell outdated and flat out bad hardware.
IF nintendo wanted money they would announce the a subscription based pokemon mmo or at least a decent pokemon clone of palworld. Friking pokemon go which is barly a game with the pokemon IP slapped on should prove that!
I would say that it depends on what they want to do with the switch, after its successor releases. If they keep it around and continue to support it with some new releases. It would make less sense to drag out the switch successor's release.
My understanding is that Nintendo has a pretty big warchest of cash that they've been sitting on for quite some time. Do we think that a strengthening yen might benefit them in that regard? (Cheaper for them to invest in foreign devs maybe, or a more attractive dividend)
It's a very good point. I don't know about devs - they don't generally buy companies outright and employees are a long-term cost so the currency fluctuations would even out over time. Also, it's not clear that the yen is going to be especially strong anytime soon - just not as weak as it has been. On the other hand, purchases such as land for their theme parks, stores and other non-gaming ventures might become more attractive.
I think that the entire reveal, promotion, and release cycle could reasonably follow the same timeframes as we saw for the Switch. Alternatively, if Nintendo wants to keep the holiday period clear from too much noise, they might go for a reveal toward the end of the fourth quarter when the major sales period is at its tail end. A deeper dive and game focused Direct could then come shortly after in January to the end of the first quarter of 2025 with the console launching at the start of the second quarter of 2025 or the end of it, allowing for a generous amount of time for major launch titles to flourish and space for big anticipation of the successor's first big holiday titles. Some cross-generation releases could reasonably be leveraged to pad out the months of that first year if necessary, but I think it's reasonable to assume that a decent number of titles are lined up to prop up the launch year and get the momentum going. With Activision taking the initiative regarding Nintendo's hardware post-acquisition and Monster Hunter Wilds on the way, we might see major games announced for the platform that look and perform in a way that really bolsters the appeal of a portable/hybrid.
Great video! It will be interesting to see how this plays out. A question for you - in light of where we are now, where it seems that Nintendo has not yet started any kind of production or purchasing of materials for the new console, how likely do you think it is that the console will boast an 8-inch display (based on the 2023 supply chain data unearthed by Hiroshi Hayase at Omdia)? It seems a lot of people took Hayase's analysis as confirmation that the Switch 2 will essentially be a larger, more powerful Switch, but such a strategy appears to be very un-Nintendo to me. Would be interested to get your opinion on this.
I think he only assumed it was for Switch 2 but in hindsight doesn't it sounds like he was describing what became the PS Portable? Instinctively, 8 inches seems less likely than 7 - Japan generally likes smaller form factors and it would drive up price.
@@nintendoforecast such a good point! The Portal is the much more likely candidate here. And I agree on pricing and form factors going against how Nintendo normally operates. Thanks for responding!
I don’t really care if they delay the successor & it doesn’t come out next year. I would rather have a good system with a good library of games than an mess like what happened with previous systems.
I’m not too sure about this. I get Nintendo likes to wait and sometimes waiting is better for the company but after January no games will be released for the switch throughout the rest of the year besides Metroid which will probably be a cross platform title. Nintendo has had more than enough time to develop launch titles like a new 3D Mario, Mario kart, Metroid P4 and etc. I’m sure they have enough games prepared for the first couple months of switch 2. Nintendo waiting a year really won’t do too much for the library of games because most of them are pretty much ready to roll according to many sources and leaks.
This is amongst the most important factors. Not all things are equal and a healthy library of first-party software, third-party support, good pricing, and a release period that suits consumer purchasing/mind share are the most essential matters of success. Ebbs and flows of national and international economies at a particular moment aren't definitive factors in that the hardware and software ecosystem typically exist for many years. Delays will only provide so much benefit. There will be ups and downs with costs and logistics, but these things just have to be dealt with as opposed to being factors informing scheduling/output in a comparable way to the other factors. Renegotiating contracts and adjusting MSRP are always options if things are accounted for correctly.
Mr. Forecast, i have a suggestion for a video, could you do an analysis on nintendo's relationship with monolithsoft and how they both benefit each other. I really loved your through research and analysis on bandai namco and nintendo's relationship alongside your other videos.
I do plan to get to all Nintendo's collaborators in time but Monolithsoft will be a while - I'm still gradually working my way through the XBC games and don't really want to spoil myself in the process of research!
Nintendo will take this years christmas sales with the switch before they announce anything. My preditction is early next year the announcement of the new console and mid to late 2025 release
To be clear, things like Switch performance or currency valuation don’t have an immediate effect on launch timing for hardware. It’s not like software you can delay indefinitely. You sign contracts and lock in a window to begin manufacturing and pushing it costs money and you lose your place in line, so to speak, to other companies. Hardware takes a long time and difficult to change course.
I still think the announcement isn't till the March reveal and Xmas 2025 release. Haven't had the typical factory leak yet so it doesn't seem to be in production yet.
Never thought about currencies value in regard to predicting console launch window before I watched your channel. Every analysis I've seen those last years on that subject seems dumb with insight...
The sooner the Switch 2 launches the better I say. The next system will be spending most of its time competing with PS6 and the next Xbox at this point and that really doesn't bode well for quality third party support.
@@therealjaystone2344 I'm leaning towards 2026 for the next generation. Now PS5 pro and w/e the Series X upgrade is might extend this generation by a year or more I'll grant you that, but it definitely seems like at least Xbox is leaning towards moving to the next generation sooner rather than later.
The US stock market has already fully healed from the early august dip for anyone wondering... the Yen is currently still on decline, but that just means Nintendo has to time their pricing on the next console.I don't think markets are going crazy for Nintendo right now (at least not in an actually hindering way) so id say this is already kind of a complete lie
2027 would be way too late to release the system because the PS6 and the 5th generation of Xbox would launch in late 2027. Switch could still continue getting new games in the first two years of its successor. They won't abandon it the moment a new console is out. So it's okay to release Switch 2 in 2025.
@@lol-ih1tl albeit march 2026 could still be reasonable if they need the extra time for the games development imo albeit they hired allot of people in the last 5 years imo
If they announce it in 2025 and release it in 2027 that’s the same length as what the switch did perfect timing for the switch’s tenth anniversary I think they should wait
Let Nintendo do their thing with the Switch. With the incoming price drop, Nintendo selects, bundles and, new games it will be enough to keep it alive for another 9 months. We still have a lot of life and first party stuff coming to it. Switch 2 will be released later in 2025. Everyone keep your pants on.
If they announce it in 2025 and release it in 2027 that’s the same length as what the switch did perfect timing for the switch’s tenth anniversary I think they should wait
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absolutely right about this.
This man is a machine, I can barely keep up with all these banger uploads. Seriously I've never seen such insightful content put out so quickly, it's like there's a whole team hiding behind the curtain.
They can keep cooking switch 2 as long as they like, my Switch backlog needs about 2 years to clear anyway 😂
Same here. And I’d hazard a guess that’s the case for a great many Switch owners.
Seems like a skill issue, you don’t have the time to play all of the catalogue of games so you bit off more then you can chew.
@@Merciless_Zero seems like an adult with life & responsibilities issues but I guess that might be hard to grasp.
@@cookeecutkk which makes sense, but if that were the case he would limit the amount of games he buys and only prioritize the one’s he wants to play the most. That way he saves on money and only spends it whenever he wants to move onto the next game after finishing the previous one.
At this point i need to retire so i have enough time to get through my backlog😅
I’ve been spoiled, 4 Nintendo forecast videos so quickly
Always remember, when the Wii U died, everyone was quick to say Nintendo had enough money to be able to have 2 more generations of Wii U type success. The Switch has been the more profitable than their previous history combined. I think it's safe to say they know what they are doing. They not only are the longest running console manufacturer in the industry but their software has been remarkably resilient to more predatory practices such as micro transactions. I'm sure the amount of components they will be wanting to aquire will afford a very favourable discount. Component companies will be falling over themselves trying to get the Switch 2 gig. It's not an exact science and you can't let external forces out of your control let the tail wag the dog. The CEO will earn his money with his negotiating skills rather than his forecasting (which of course they will try to regulate external impacts as much as possible.)
I think they'll need to focus on the holiday season and make that as strong as possible (reckon the September Direct will have some big holiday titles.) No sense in them starting to juggle plates with a successful holiday season and managing the Switch 2 hype cycle. Imagine that...here's the Switch 2, but don't get too excited we want you to buy a Switch 1 lol. They'll reveal it next year and launch later. Switch isn't the Wii U. They couldn't wait to write that off and get the Switch out asap. In the meantime, negotiations for parts and components has probably already been sorted. Their commercial team are as competent as their creative teams lol.
I'm not holding my breath for the September Direct, but I will welcome new announcements with open arms. I also think early next year is the perfect time to announce Switch 2. We might get the discontinuation of the OG Switch model after holidays and a price drop of the OLED ($350 to $300).
@@Dairunt1 I'm the opposite. I would be surprised if we don't get another Direct this year. As for early next year, we won't get a reveal in January (folk are skint and disinterest in another console - outside of the fanbase ofc - is at it's peak) or February (because that's not even a real month!) My money is on March. Nintendo will be able to build their profile going into the next fiscal year and get some momentum. (Which puts Metroid Prime 4 as a January title haha! We'll see. It's low profile enough in Nintendo's eyes for it to live there.)
We’ve already got some great holiday titles, Mario party and Mario and Luigi. (And if you stretch things, echoes of wisdom)
@@minecrafter3448 Good innit!
To play Devil’s advocate, I would argue that Amiibos should fall under the umbrella of microtransactions, albeit one with multifaceted use cases and compatibility. Nintendo’s mobile releases also haven’t shied away from traditional microtransactions, and if I recall they’ve even tried out loot boxes for their mobile Animal Crossing release. In recent years it seems Nintendo wants to retire both Amiibos and their mobile excursions, but I still feel it’s stretching the truth to say they’ve dodged monetization practices that have been plaguing the gaming industry.
This is why they waited. Now it’s cheaper to manufacture.
I'm still expecting it to be soft-announced this year for an early-mid 2025 launch (with a similar 'small library at launch, about one game a month for the first 9-12 months' strategy as the Switch had), but fair point that the noises being made are likely indicative of a longer manufacturing process between soft announcement and launch.
Maybe in November they give a spec sheet and a sneak peak for the launch game(I predict to be DK), then a February blowout with system reveal and more games following a May Release
I am just hype for the new Mario Party, Zelda Echoes and BROTHERSHIP MARIOANDLUIGIHYPE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
Unfortunately, there's no easy answer for Nintendo. These are very complicated times, especially financially, and there's nothing that they can do that has zero risk. I hope they don't refuse to do anything because they're waiting for an ideal time that may never come. At some point, they need to actually start producing the next console. You're right that, even if they have to eat less profits or even sell the Switch 2 at a loss, it's still worth if it means actually getting the console on shelves. It's not as if things won't rebound later where they'll make more profits.
New favorite channel! Finally someone doing some market environment analysis around gaming news. I appreciate your well informed takes.
Thank you!
Keep these type of videos coming, I’ll always make sure to watch them ❤.
I personally think that they should reveal it in Q4 of their fiscal year (Q1 of 2025) so that that way they can get one more uninterrupted holiday boost to the Switch’s sales.
And steady the spike of growth across two balance sheets
I figure Nintendo will wait as long as possible to release the Switch's successor just to milk every last bit the original is capable of.
Wouldn’t it be better to support it cross gen instead of holding off a few months?
What’s the point of waiting until the Switch and its fans are fully exhausted
I don't really get that sentiment, they would still be making way more money if they released a new console already alongside new games. If we get another year of remakes and minor new titles, the Nintendo brand is just going to start to become irrelevant.
That has been my position, as well, but I believe there is a delicate balance between milking the existent Switch and risking negative sentiments among their core audience.
Perhaps, the best path is to enter 2025 with a Switch price drop together with the official announcement of the new device.
@@jimmyelgringitoSaid many times before, cross-gen is not a good strategy, better move everyone to the next generation platform. People buy Nintendo console for their exclusive. NES, SNES and N64 sold well because of Mario and Zelda, Wii sports are exclusive for the Wii. The PS5 and Xbox series X thing is really a marketing thing. It’s like the iPhone 13, is it the next generation after iPhone 12, or just 12S?
@@jimmyelgringitoContinue supporting the switch is not a bad idea, but it have to be massively downscaled, like 3DS in 2017-2019. Big games just have to be exclusive. New generation mean delivering new innovation and exclusive experience to users. You know there is a thing called “console revision”. Nintendo clearly stated they want to take risk with a successor, not a save stop gap solution.
I keep telling myself I’ll wait to get the Switch 2 because there’s no way they’ll not have backwards compatibility this time, but it feels like the release stays a year ahead of whenever I check in with predictions. The Switch already has had an insanely long lifespan considering its relative hardware power.
I'm pretty confident that Nintendo is going to end up launching their console right in the middle of a global recession.
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I think announcing soonish won't hurt the sales, simply because there might be a "fomo" reaction. People that want to get now a Switch on sales or want it for preservation or collection purposes.
I personally bought a N2DSXL for 99€ when the Switch was about to come out, or similar I bought a PS4 Slim for 200€ when the PS4 Pro came out.
I think there could be a short boost of sales, as soon as a successor is announced.
Switch is so big, hearing official news a Switch 2 comes out, will get to even the most casual players after all.
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Should change your channel name to The Gaming Forecast,
I love your presentation style, reminds me of a proper news channel but for gaming, i get behind this.
Great job 💪
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I know a lot of games would benefit from a new Nintendo console's power, but I'm here playing my older tate-mode vertical arcade games and rare, touch-screen controlled menus and I'm like... "Can we get more developers developing using the hardware to its benefit?"
Multiple control modes including touch screen: Chicory, Coffee Talk, Okami, Hypnospace Outlaw (keyboard and mouse,) Taiko games (not just drums but touch,) Loop Hero, Grim Fandango, Dungeon Warfare, etc.
Vertical games: Groove Coaster, Demon's Tilt, Downwell, Annalynn, Espagaluda 2, Dragon Blaze, etc.
Thanks for that list of multiple controls systems!
Yeah, that’s why modular accessories will be great for switch successor. You just need some sort of locking mechanism like the slide-rail or magnet. What about an console called “Attach & Switch”
Switch is outdated tech and their is a lot of games that would struggle to run on the current system, they kind of need the next system to come out.
I'm so excited about getting a new Switch that I'm considering buying the OLED model, even though I already have the regular one since launch. I play a lot in handheld mode and really want an upgrade... But I don't want to spend 300€ only to have to spend it again in less than a year...
Your current one may break down one day, so getting another one may be good in the long term-even if switch 2 comes out suddenly
yeah I'd just wait tbh
Just wait and see. Keep edging
Nintendo should just be a developer for Apple Games or something. Apple's mobile chips are already way better than what the switch 2 will be whenever it will release. The phone I have right now will be able to emulate Switch 2 games at a higher quality than the console itself.
That's not a great sign for Nintendo as they try to sell outdated and flat out bad hardware.
I still want to upgrade my Switch Lite to Switch OLED. Currently just waiting for a permanent price drop at $50 then I'm buying OLED one ASAP 🔥
If you have the patience to wait for a sale, just wait and save for the switch 2
IF nintendo wanted money they would announce the a subscription based pokemon mmo or at least a decent pokemon clone of palworld. Friking pokemon go which is barly a game with the pokemon IP slapped on should prove that!
Pokémon go is pokemon irl and it’s basically a live action mmo
Pokémon copying palworld would be bad because it would make them look insecure
Pokémon does its own thing
I would say that it depends on what they want to do with the switch, after its successor releases. If they keep it around and continue to support it with some new releases. It would make less sense to drag out the switch successor's release.
My understanding is that Nintendo has a pretty big warchest of cash that they've been sitting on for quite some time. Do we think that a strengthening yen might benefit them in that regard? (Cheaper for them to invest in foreign devs maybe, or a more attractive dividend)
It's a very good point. I don't know about devs - they don't generally buy companies outright and employees are a long-term cost so the currency fluctuations would even out over time. Also, it's not clear that the yen is going to be especially strong anytime soon - just not as weak as it has been. On the other hand, purchases such as land for their theme parks, stores and other non-gaming ventures might become more attractive.
That war chest is defensive for protecting their IP's from companies with net worths magnitudes larger than them. It's how they pay the ninjas haha
I think that the entire reveal, promotion, and release cycle could reasonably follow the same timeframes as we saw for the Switch. Alternatively, if Nintendo wants to keep the holiday period clear from too much noise, they might go for a reveal toward the end of the fourth quarter when the major sales period is at its tail end. A deeper dive and game focused Direct could then come shortly after in January to the end of the first quarter of 2025 with the console launching at the start of the second quarter of 2025 or the end of it, allowing for a generous amount of time for major launch titles to flourish and space for big anticipation of the successor's first big holiday titles.
Some cross-generation releases could reasonably be leveraged to pad out the months of that first year if necessary, but I think it's reasonable to assume that a decent number of titles are lined up to prop up the launch year and get the momentum going. With Activision taking the initiative regarding Nintendo's hardware post-acquisition and Monster Hunter Wilds on the way, we might see major games announced for the platform that look and perform in a way that really bolsters the appeal of a portable/hybrid.
I think they're going to go for a late march / early April launch like the 3DS
Great video! It will be interesting to see how this plays out. A question for you - in light of where we are now, where it seems that Nintendo has not yet started any kind of production or purchasing of materials for the new console, how likely do you think it is that the console will boast an 8-inch display (based on the 2023 supply chain data unearthed by Hiroshi Hayase at Omdia)?
It seems a lot of people took Hayase's analysis as confirmation that the Switch 2 will essentially be a larger, more powerful Switch, but such a strategy appears to be very un-Nintendo to me. Would be interested to get your opinion on this.
I think he only assumed it was for Switch 2 but in hindsight doesn't it sounds like he was describing what became the PS Portable? Instinctively, 8 inches seems less likely than 7 - Japan generally likes smaller form factors and it would drive up price.
@@nintendoforecast such a good point! The Portal is the much more likely candidate here. And I agree on pricing and form factors going against how Nintendo normally operates. Thanks for responding!
Make a video about the "Reverse Wii U" rumors!
I don’t really care if they delay the successor & it doesn’t come out next year. I would rather have a good system with a good library of games than an mess like what happened with previous systems.
I’m not too sure about this. I get Nintendo likes to wait and sometimes waiting is better for the company but after January no games will be released for the switch throughout the rest of the year besides Metroid which will probably be a cross platform title. Nintendo has had more than enough time to develop launch titles like a new 3D Mario, Mario kart, Metroid P4 and etc. I’m sure they have enough games prepared for the first couple months of switch 2. Nintendo waiting a year really won’t do too much for the library of games because most of them are pretty much ready to roll according to many sources and leaks.
I am pretty pretty sure they won’t do that
This is amongst the most important factors. Not all things are equal and a healthy library of first-party software, third-party support, good pricing, and a release period that suits consumer purchasing/mind share are the most essential matters of success. Ebbs and flows of national and international economies at a particular moment aren't definitive factors in that the hardware and software ecosystem typically exist for many years. Delays will only provide so much benefit. There will be ups and downs with costs and logistics, but these things just have to be dealt with as opposed to being factors informing scheduling/output in a comparable way to the other factors. Renegotiating contracts and adjusting MSRP are always options if things are accounted for correctly.
Mr. Forecast, i have a suggestion for a video, could you do an analysis on nintendo's relationship with monolithsoft and how they both benefit each other. I really loved your through research and analysis on bandai namco and nintendo's relationship alongside your other videos.
I do plan to get to all Nintendo's collaborators in time but Monolithsoft will be a while - I'm still gradually working my way through the XBC games and don't really want to spoil myself in the process of research!
Got it. But have fun with the games. You're in for a ride
Nintendo will take this years christmas sales with the switch before they announce anything. My preditction is early next year the announcement of the new console and mid to late 2025 release
Can the Nintendo switch be the highest selling system of all time so im thinking onces they hit that thresh hold they would start announcing
Great video, thanks for your analysis!
To be clear, things like Switch performance or currency valuation don’t have an immediate effect on launch timing for hardware. It’s not like software you can delay indefinitely. You sign contracts and lock in a window to begin manufacturing and pushing it costs money and you lose your place in line, so to speak, to other companies. Hardware takes a long time and difficult to change course.
I have so many games to play, that i hope it comes out in 2046. And i only play Nintendo games
This got so heady and world economy related I literally forgot I was listening to a vid about nintendo
Incredible content as always !!
2026 is bunkers seems like waaaaay down the line.
I still think the announcement isn't till the March reveal and Xmas 2025 release. Haven't had the typical factory leak yet so it doesn't seem to be in production yet.
Never thought about currencies value in regard to predicting console launch window before I watched your channel. Every analysis I've seen those last years on that subject seems dumb with insight...
The sooner the Switch 2 launches the better I say. The next system will be spending most of its time competing with PS6 and the next Xbox at this point and that really doesn't bode well for quality third party support.
I highly doubt we’ll see the next Xbox by 2027
@@therealjaystone2344 I'm leaning towards 2026 for the next generation. Now PS5 pro and w/e the Series X upgrade is might extend this generation by a year or more I'll grant you that, but it definitely seems like at least Xbox is leaning towards moving to the next generation sooner rather than later.
@@TromboneGamer Microsoft is focusing on streaming service for games. It will be a benefit for the company to be as a third party publisher.
The US stock market has already fully healed from the early august dip for anyone wondering... the Yen is currently still on decline, but that just means Nintendo has to time their pricing on the next console.I don't think markets are going crazy for Nintendo right now (at least not in an actually hindering way) so id say this is already kind of a complete lie
Release it while Sony keeps shooting themselves in the foot >
It’s coming early next year
This is an early video :0
I've been experimenting with moving my release time to earlier in the day.
Take my 0.59 watch hours
11:41 ha, tell that to the US
Nintendo could realistically still hold onto the switch till march 2027 and release the switch 2 then
2027 would be way too late to release the system because the PS6 and the 5th generation of Xbox would launch in late 2027. Switch could still continue getting new games in the first two years of its successor. They won't abandon it the moment a new console is out. So it's okay to release Switch 2 in 2025.
@@lol-ih1tl albeit march 2026 could still be reasonable if they need the extra time for the games development imo albeit they hired allot of people in the last 5 years imo
If they announce it in 2025 and release it in 2027 that’s the same length as what the switch did perfect timing for the switch’s tenth anniversary I think they should wait
Fin
Right now, I want it.
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Let Nintendo do their thing with the Switch. With the incoming price drop, Nintendo selects, bundles and, new games it will be enough to keep it alive for another 9 months. We still have a lot of life and first party stuff coming to it.
Switch 2 will be released later in 2025. Everyone keep your pants on.
Isn't nintendo already start a production?
Only Nintendo and their production company know that for sure.
Their hardware is already done for some time ago and sitting there
Screw your first, second or turd comments.
fourth at that
I heard about that Nintendo is delayed the switch 2 until 2026 Nintendo is taking down all the TH-cam that people post it’s all lies
That's fake news
The most best selling Nintendo this year will be the best selling game on the system and that is of course Emio! 😁
Love this idea!
If they announce it in 2025 and release it in 2027 that’s the same length as what the switch did perfect timing for the switch’s tenth anniversary I think they should wait
Switch was announced in October 20th, 2016 and launched in March 3rd, 2017 which is roughly 4 months and 11 days, you got it all wrong.